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Moscow and Cairo are discussing the conditions for the transfer of electronic equipment to Egypt from Mistral

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Egypt still intends to purchase equipment dismantled from the Mistral, originally built in France for the Russian Navy, from Russia, the sides are now working on this issue, reports Look With reference to the Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Defense of Egypt Mohamed El-Kyashky.




"We are already in the process and working together on this,"
said El Kyashky.

Earlier in April, TASS, citing a source, announced Cairo’s desire to purchase “Russian electronic weapons” for Mistral.

"The Egyptian military delegation, which held talks with Rosoboronexport, unequivocally stated its desire to install Russian radio-electronic weapons, including radio-electronic warfare equipment, bought by France from Mistral, and requested to deliver it," the interlocutor said.

“The Egyptian side plans to submit a request for specific samples of electronic weapons at the next round of talks with Rosoboronexport, which may be held in April-May,” he added.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 28 2016 13: 36
    +12
    They bought galoshes, now they are worn with them. And it’s a pity to quit, and it is inconvenient to carry it! laughing
    1. APASUS
      APASUS April 28 2016 13: 53
      +10
      Quote: aszzz888
      They bought galoshes, now they are worn with them. And it’s a pity to quit, and it is inconvenient to carry it! laughing

      Arabs are cunning and trading in their blood, I won’t be surprised if these Mistrals end up in Russia at the end
      1. Blondy
        Blondy April 28 2016 16: 07
        +1
        Quote: APASUS
        Arabs are cunning and trading in their blood, I won’t be surprised if these Mistrals end up in Russia at the end

        Nah, we don’t need them like that. Most likely in India to create a counterbalance to China, or to the Philippines, which like China are very interested in the Spratly archipelago, well, it may be Vietnam for the same reason, if the money is scratched.
        1. Dimontius
          Dimontius April 28 2016 17: 24
          +1
          Apparently Uncle Vova thinks differently !!! =))
        2. APASUS
          APASUS April 28 2016 20: 13
          0
          Quote: Blondy
          Most likely in India to create a counterbalance to China, or to the Philippines, which like China are very interested in the Spratly archipelago, well, it may be Vietnam for the same reason, if the money is scratched.

          Yes, even Mongolia. Just the specification says that it is prepared for a specific buyer. Does Egypt have an expeditionary force? Mistral didn’t give up on it, it’s a resale of honorable water, maybe not immediately in 2-3 years
          1. alexmach
            alexmach April 28 2016 20: 46
            +1
            what is the problem of having the largest land army in the Arab world to assemble an expeditionary force?
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit April 28 2016 20: 41
        0
        No, it’s just that the Arabs want to quietly take out samples of electronic equipment from Russia, including electronic warfare equipment, and then sell them to mattresses. This is so simple version. And according to the Mistrals, how many screams there were that Russia profiled money, threw it, and so on. They returned the money for the Mistral, so it’s also possible to earn good money on equipment, and then on Russian weapons. So who threw whom?
    2. demchuk.ig
      demchuk.ig April 28 2016 14: 22
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      They bought galoshes, now they are worn with them. And it’s a pity to quit, and it is inconvenient to carry it!

      They did not buy these "galoshes" for themselves. The Saudis were bountiful (possibly with the suggestion of the "big brother")!
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy April 28 2016 15: 04
        +3
        The main thing - not for free and not on credit, but for cash. And preferably for a fraction of the shares in the second stage of the Suez Canal. ;)
        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 28 2016 20: 48
          +1
          Oh I don’t know, I don’t know. Is it worth it to sell modern (if of course it really is) equipment to the uprisings of a potential enemy?
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit April 28 2016 20: 50
          +1
          Of course for cash. They su..ki still for the Arab Israeli war, only for tanks owe 5 billion green at 1973 prices. This is not counting rocket planes and the rest. They are not grateful creatures, and let the money immediately to the barrel.
    3. Stalker.1977
      Stalker.1977 April 28 2016 14: 43
      +1
      It seems Egypt has decided to seriously address the issue of the Sinai Peninsula.
      1. AdekvatNICK
        AdekvatNICK April 28 2016 14: 51
        +1
        but it seems to me that Saudi Arabia is pressing Egypt and so much that Egypt has transferred the disputed islands to Saudi Arabia ...
      2. alexmach
        alexmach April 28 2016 20: 48
        +1
        Why ships then for this? on foot from Egypt there in any way?
    4. siberalt
      siberalt April 28 2016 15: 58
      0
      Yes, they will somehow agree, without asking the opinion of our "smart people" from the forum on the topic "on grandma's bench" .. laughing
      The usual repost of information from an Internet, thanks to the admin! hi
  2. weksha50
    weksha50 April 28 2016 13: 38
    +2
    Hmm ... Somehow vague and vague - what kind of electronic weapons are they talking about? Only about the means of electronic warfare ???

    Or is it referring to another electronic filling intended for these ships?
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga April 28 2016 13: 52
      +6
      Quote: weksha50
      Hmm ... Somehow vague and vague - what kind of electronic weapons are they talking about? Only about the means of electronic warfare ???

      And were there EW funds? No. We are talking about communications and management.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch April 28 2016 13: 58
        +8
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        And were there EW funds? We are talking about communications and management.


        It would be strange if without electronic warfare. That's just an interesting question, are there English-American ears do not stick out, for an hour? They are really interested in KRET products, but they cannot get close.
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 April 28 2016 14: 28
        0
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        And were there EW funds? We are talking about communications and management.



        Read the note article carefully ...

        Why did I write about some kind of strangeness and vagueness ...
    2. demchuk.ig
      demchuk.ig April 28 2016 14: 26
      +2
      Quote: weksha50
      Or is it referring to another electronic filling intended for these ships?

      I understand that these troughs were made purely for us and no one was remodeling them and all the equipment should be ours!
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 April 28 2016 14: 32
        0
        Quote: demchuk.ig
        I understand that these troughs were made purely for us and nobody remade them and all the equipment should be ours!



        That's the whole thing ...

        And it is completely incomprehensible what means of communication and control, and even more specifically - electronic warfare equipment are said ...

        We also take into account the fact that, if the control and communication equipment is ours, then this will already be a long-term contract for its maintenance ... But what about the different standards that are very different from each other ???
  3. AlexTires
    AlexTires April 28 2016 13: 38
    +6
    Moscow and Cairo are discussing the conditions for the transfer of electronic equipment to Egypt from Mistral

    And what to discuss? Your money, our money ... (not to the good of Taburetkin remembered) appliances, if without prejudice to their own defenses .... yes
  4. Teberii
    Teberii April 28 2016 13: 38
    0
    It’s interesting who will earn more on this scandal, or the French. We have strengthened our status as an economically responsible country, and the French have achieved that.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ April 28 2016 13: 57
      +2
      Quote: Teberii
      It’s interesting who will earn more on this scandal, or the French. We have strengthened our status as an economically responsible country, and what the French have achieved.

      It is too early to judge who earns more (if you are interested in numbers). Not yet all sides, they all bought for these ships what they would like. Wait and see.
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  5. alpamys
    alpamys April 28 2016 13: 39
    +1
    Quote: aszzz888
    They bought galoshes, now they are worn with them. And it’s a pity to quit, and it is inconvenient to carry it! laughing

    I also don’t understand, why the fuck is this vessel.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets April 28 2016 13: 51
      +6
      Quote: alpamys
      I also don’t understand, why the fuck is this vessel.

      Ask the King of Saudi Arabia. Maybe it's pleasure yachts for his harem. The Saudis are sponsoring the purchase of the Mistrals.
  6. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 April 28 2016 13: 48
    0
    I don’t think it’s necessary to sell EW funds. We will build our helicopters for this vessel, and that’s good news. Not every whim for your money.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets April 28 2016 13: 55
      +2
      Quote: Alexander 3
      I don’t think it’s necessary to sell EW funds. We will build our helicopters for this vessel, and that’s good news. Not every whim for your money.

      And what to do with them? They are under the "Mistral" imprisoned. But they must be given for real money, and not on credit.
  7. Igor39
    Igor39 April 28 2016 13: 51
    +1
    I hope not in debt as usual.
  8. Abbra
    Abbra April 28 2016 14: 07
    +1
    Above will agree. Just notice that during this time the price has increased significantly. And the equipment costs as much as two Mistrals.
  9. gray smeet
    gray smeet April 28 2016 14: 09
    +1
    What kind of information is this? Does anyone have info from a reliable source ?:


    In the Baltic Sea off the coast of the Pillau Peninsula, a Russian submarine collided with the Polish submarine Orzeł ("Ozhel").

    As REN TV learned, the incident happened the other day. At the same time, according to sources, the Russian submarine did not receive significant damage and after surfacing went to the naval base. At the same time, the Polish "Ozhel" after surfacing had to be towed away from the collision site.

    The Russian military department REN TV has not yet been able to receive any comments on the incident. At the same time, the Polish media write that the Russian submarine Krasnodar received minor damage after the collision and was sent for repairs to the Admiralty shipyards.

    "Ozhel" is the only Polish submarine inherited from this country from Soviet times. This is a Project 877E diesel submarine, which entered Poland in 1986. The vessel is armed with 6 torpedo tubes of 533 mm caliber, up to 18 torpedoes or 24 mines. The remaining four submarines of the Polish Navy went to Warsaw from the British in the early 200s and previously bore English names.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka April 28 2016 14: 19
      +2
      One thing I can say - Ren-TV is a bastion of truthful information. You will not find more truth than on Ren-TV anywhere. Don't you really believe in aliens? By the way, it always amused why aliens fly at night, with the lights on? Are they stupid people? :)
      P.S. Ahahah, cool editing of the word De-bila.
  10. Enoch
    Enoch April 28 2016 14: 09
    0
    Everything is for sale - money doesn’t smell: the USA - RD-180 engines for their military launches, Egypt - EW. 4 columns - the norm, but the 5th?
  11. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb April 28 2016 14: 13
    +2
    Egypt still intends to acquire equipment from Russia dismantled from the Mistrals, originally built in France for the Russian Navy

    as the saying goes: "If the honor were offered, but God saved from the loss."
  12. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 28 2016 14: 36
    +2
    In Russia, everything has already been developed and much has been done.
    There was information that Egypt wants to receive 4 helicopter carriers from France.
    The country is small. Explicitly take not only for themselves.
    Will Russia be imposed again !?
  13. Chatlanen
    Chatlanen April 28 2016 15: 13
    +4
    Quote: alpamys
    I also don’t understand, why the fuck is this vessel.

    More interesting, why the hell is this vessel with EW? Against who? Yemen? Israel? (how does the S-300 lift Iran so high, and then it’s silent) or simply to fuse EW technology to the states?
  14. sgapich
    sgapich April 28 2016 15: 33
    +5
    Why not? Sell ​​them a license for dipole and corner reflectors. wink
  15. swetlana1
    swetlana1 April 28 2016 19: 15
    +8
    Plus "Mistral" (the version that the Russian Navy was supposed to acquire - the widespread use of automated control systems, which helped to reduce the number of crew members to 160 people.
    Another function of the Mistral is the ability to use it as a headquarters. The helicopter carrier is provided with a special room with an area of ​​850 sq. m, which can comfortably work up to 200 technicians and staff workers. The problem is that Soviet and Russian ships are not intended to play the role of a flagship (a command center for controlling a small squadron, aviation (including strategic, air defense and sea) submarines and, if necessary, with coastal defense units ... They could play the role of the flagship of a small purely naval group.

    2011 "... Negotiations with the French are very difficult, the dispute is over the ship's equipment, primarily because of the Zenith-9 combat information and control system and the SIC-21 command control system (fleet). The French side agrees to give Zenith-9 without a production license and is completely against the transfer of SIC-21. Russia insists on the transfer of Mistrals with all systems and devices ... Problems in negotiations over the construction of Mistral-class helicopter carriers for Russia related to the issue of technology transfer. Initially, we said that this price should include not only the ship, but also the technology ... "
    As a result, then we won and the ships went as a bonus ... By the summer of 2014. the Americans put pressure on Paris so that both systems were not supplied to the Russian Federation. Then we no longer needed this floating "barn" with an empty space of 850 m2 ...

    It is planned to use our helicopters on helicopter carriers, which means that specific equipment is needed to work with them and, possibly, "simplified" combat control systems ..