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"Garbage" the economy of Russia. Evil Ivan №25 with Ivan Victory

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Hello to all of ours and not to ours. I am Ivan Victory and I am angry again today.

International rating agency Moody's retained Russia's sovereign rating of “Ba1”, which is considered “trash”

And again, russophobes, non-systemic opposition and liberal journalists uncorked and poured champagne from wine glasses, stored from the best of times. And they began to persistently congratulate each other on this undoubtedly sign peremog.

Svidomye geybindertovtsy could not help but join this orgy. On this occasion, they dressed up in ceremonial vyshivanka and reminded their chuba. The reason is something special. All this public looked restlessly around, listening intently. Hearing in the hope of hearing, the roar and noise ... from the crumbling, hated by all of them, "Raska".

Can you hear it Not?! So I do not hear.

Bummer lads, pour champagne back into the bottle. Peremoga is postponed.
And I will tell you why.

But as so, the concerned viewer will start asking questions. After all, the world rating agency with the incongruous name "Mudize" identified Russia's sovereign rating at the level of "junk" with a forecast for its deterioration. Is this not a verdict of the world community?

Wait a minute! But all this has already happened! A year ago. The same news. The same joyful cries of all propalschik and paravalitikov. For more than a year we have been living with this dismal sentence from the Moodys. And to us, through the liberal media, we decided to remind you that this is a mess. We have to fear, panic and hysteria. And the main thing is never to forget that everything is very bad and everything is lost.

Well, let's go back to our reality. I will not now repeat my thoughts about the ratio of external debt to GDP, about the country's balance of payments, about the ruble exchange rate and the price of oil. The arguments haven't changed much. But since then, quite a few positive events have happened, which the opposition and Western media prefer not to notice or stupidly ignore.

Come in order.
Russia has 6-th in the world gold reserves, which is constantly growing. And only in the past year, its size has increased by 200 tons. This is the size of the entire gold reserves of Kazakhstan.

A small remark.
It must be remembered that Russia provides open data on its gold. Unlike the same USA. Which for a long time already have refused audit. And no one with checks to themselves is not allowed. Type need to take their word.
With the same Germany, which allegedly ranks second in the world in gold reserves, is rather muddy история. The fact is that more than half of its gold is stored in the United States. And in Germany itself is only 31% of its gold reserves. So the rating may not be the same as we are shown. Russia, with its economy torn to shreds ... 6-place on the physical gold reserves. A bit strange. Anyway.

Russia today is the 6 economy of the world. There was a slight setback here, we lost to 5-place in Germany. This is due to the fact that the country's GDP decreased in 2015 year. Another reason is that it is considered in dollars, and due to the depreciation of the ruble, we counted it. Only now the number of goods and services produced has not changed, and has even increased in some sectors of the economy. This is a question about the objectivity of all these Western ratings.

And this year, Russia will become the leader in grain exports, taking the lead from the United States. For the first time in the last 100 years. And this, according to the forecasts of the Americans themselves. Something is wrong with this torn economy.

Suddenly, the production of domestic agricultural machinery has sharply increased, and it must be the case, it is being successfully exported as well. Shipments increased by 30%. But how?

Russia is a major producer of poultry meat. And annually increases production by 7-10%. We fully meet their needs. And we export it. The size of which has increased 2007 times since 70! And in 90-s I recall, we were forced to buy chicken legs from America. Since they could not feed themselves.

We have significantly increased food production. Their imports from other countries have halved. And in 2015, food production has become one of the fastest growing areas in the Russian economy.

Russia's torn-off economy has squeezed a significant share of the oil market from Saudi Arabia, and some experts say that now it is Russia that is the main oil exporter in the world. And we are also world leaders in gas exports.

Russia ranks second in arms exports and holds 25% of the entire world market. For comparison, the US is 33%. And after demonstrating our capabilities weapons in Syria, the order book has grown significantly. And again, despite the tattered economy.

By peaceful atom, we are a recognized and indisputable leader. And here RosAtom scored orders for billions and is loaded with work for decades to come. And again, despite being torn to shreds.

Well, to all of this, Russia is completing a new space center. Builds a bridge to the Crimea and is preparing for the World Cup. We lead the fight against terrorism in Syria. We are launching the Nord Stream 2 project. We have a minimum external debt, we repay all our obligations on time, we have a surplus trade balance and huge foreign exchange reserves.

And on the background of this the assholes of the Mudhiz declare that our economy is cranky. And it becomes clear that this is an order, that this is a lie, that it is impossible to believe the West, their media and their ratings for a long time.

Maybe I’m too naive, but it seems to me that the torn economy should be engaged in, whatever. But not the above listed. Perhaps a country with a collapsing economy and a garbage rating should run around the world with an outstretched hand, begging everyone for money, violating their obligations and not returning debts.

That's just Russia for this description does not fit.

A healthy and balanced economy, it is important for any country. And of course we have room to grow. But unlike most Western economies with an exorbitant rating. Russia's economy is real. It produces, works, invents and creates ... It is doomed to grow and develop, and we need to help her in this.

Everything! Believe in your people and your country! See you soon!
"Garbage" the economy of Russia. Evil Ivan №25 with Ivan Victory
And again we will all die. And again, the Russian economy is torn to shreds!
This time, we are scared by a rating agency called "Moody".
But wait to run to the cemetery, first watch this video. =)

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  1. spool
    spool April 29 2016 05: 23
    +31
    As the Minister of Internal Politics of Crimea Dmitry Polonsky recently said, such entities should definitely visit the Peruvian village with a simple name
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2016 05: 34
      +15
      Quote: spool
      As the Minister of Internal Politics of Crimea Dmitry Polonsky recently said, such entities should definitely visit the Peruvian village with a simple name

      Well ... Russia is also hospitable ...yes
    2. HERMES
      HERMES April 29 2016 06: 18
      +3
      There are always lovers of shitting and charming everyone and everything ... their number is growing, as the development of science: exponentially ...
      1. Voha_krim
        Voha_krim April 29 2016 06: 49
        +6
        The rating agency is correctly named "Moody's".
        Good, would not be called that.
    3. Thirteenth
      Thirteenth April 29 2016 06: 52
      +17
      Quote: spool
      As the Minister of Internal Politics of Crimea Dmitry Polonsky recently said, such entities should definitely visit the Peruvian village with a simple name


      Why visit Peruvian villages? Enough to visit our Russian outback.
      I live in a small town, there are many villages, villages and towns scattered around. Those that lie along good motorways still live somehow, the collective farms, state farms, and livestock complexes that have remained from the time of the USSR work, and woodworking workshops have appeared. In general, people have the opportunity to earn a piece of bread. But besides such a more or less successful village, a huge mass of deserted or finally abandoned villages and villages appeared, where the population is made up of pensioners surviving their age. And more recently, some 20 years ago, and in these places life was in full swing. There were collective farms with a mass of equipment, land was cultivated, livestock was raised, schools and children worked. the gardens. but now this is already gone, ruin and desolation, overgrowing undergrowth of the field and impassable roads in autumn and spring ...
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2016 07: 04
        +2
        Quote: Thirteenth
        I live in a small town, there are many villages, villages and towns scattered around. Those that lie along good motorways still live somehow, the collective farms, state farms, and livestock complexes that have remained from the time of the USSR work, and woodworking workshops have appeared. In general, people have the opportunity to earn a piece of bread. But besides such a more or less successful village, a huge mass of deserted or finally abandoned villages and villages appeared, where the population is made up of pensioners surviving their age. And more recently, some 20 years ago, and in these places life was in full swing.

        my friend, you described the life of 80-85% of Russians. not everyone lives in large cities, the bulk of the population lives exactly as you said, and see around what you see ... hi
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        2. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat April 29 2016 07: 25
          +1
          The author is not quite aware of what "criteria" and why the "rating" is determined by the Moody's agency. These ratings determine the "investment attractiveness" of this or that economy and have nothing to do with the production of this or that product in the country or with the stock of "gold" in its "bins". If there are no available loans in the country, if they cannot be taken from foreign banks, if international regulatory bodies will consider any transaction with this country and every money transfer "under the microscope" for violation of "sanctions", if the country's currency rate "dances" as it wants if the demand for goods produced in the country falls both inside (due to the sharp impoverishment of the population of the country) and abroad (due to the general economic recession), if the "rules" and "efficiency" of doing business depend on the "administrative" "resource" if the authorities in the country are doing "everything possible" so that "protest" moods grow in the country in all strata of society, if the economy itself (with the exception of the military industry where "entry" is now closed for foreigners) is really "bursting at the seams", then such an economy cannot be called anything other than "junk" in terms of "investments" and "business" attractiveness.
          1. edeligor
            edeligor April 29 2016 07: 57
            +1
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            if the authorities in the country do "everything possible" so that "protest" moods grow in the country in all strata of society

            I have been talking about this for a long time and THIS is the most interesting thing in the entire developing situation. WHO IS INTERESTED IN THIS? More to say, the constant stuffing about raising the retirement age, the return to power of the "kissed" Gestapo from the economy of Kudrin, etc. ... Some puppeteers lit the fuse fuse ?!
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 29 2016 09: 36
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              Yes, it’s not dead anyway, all these years it has been smoldering, but now the liberals are puffing their cheeks, trying to inflame our discontent. Although dark things are happening at the top, you can't argue here, you don't know whether it is possible to trust anyone in power. About "belolentochnikov" and others like them, there is nothing to say, they definitely have a place in the garbage. But where is the sane, decisive national power?
              To launch his own national spaceport, the president needs to hang around there for the launch to take place. And so in everything. The country needs a national government, not an occupation administration, and its own Central Bank.
            2. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka April 29 2016 11: 25
              +1
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              if the authorities in the country do "everything possible" so that "protest" moods grow in the country in all strata of society

              I have been talking about this for a long time and THIS is the most interesting thing in the entire developing situation. WHO IS INTERESTED IN THIS? More to say, the constant stuffing about raising the retirement age, the return to power of the "kissed" Gestapo from the economy of Kudrin, etc. ... Some puppeteers lit the fuse fuse ?!


              unfortunately, looking at what is being done now, you come to the same thought - the barrels of gunpowder have already been pulled, now they are lighting up ... The news has not been discussed in any media at all - have you heard anything about the increase in metal prices? for less than two months, an increase of 50% and this is not the limit! What does it mean? in monetary terms, an increase in production, and as a result, all metal-containing products will grow by ... in general, further the flight of fancy request all cars, construction sites everything will jump in price, one asks - where are our antitrust monitors? Are we buying ore, electricity ?? with low demand, what does such a price increase lead to? all over the hill, but inside there is an even bigger crisis!
          2. Erg
            Erg April 29 2016 09: 10
            +3
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            These ratings determine the "investment attractiveness" of a particular economy

            Investment attractiveness "determines", or rather creates a handful of ruffians who consider themselves the masters of the world. And we must understand this. To look at the world not with their eyes, but with our own. Personally about myself. Due to the sanctions (sticks in the wheels), my family's income was halved (taking into account prices). But I use a car, I have a roof over my head, my children and grandchildren study and do not go hungry. I travel to Voronezh, Tula, Rostov regions, Krasnodar Territory. I see villages. The people live normally (and even very much). I understand that not all of Russia lives in prosperity, but don't you see that enormous efforts are being made to pull out backward regions. Let's break through. Never when there was no thought to change the country, even with a tourist purpose, it is not drawn to demons. What can compare with Russia ... hi
            1. atalef
              atalef April 29 2016 09: 43
              +2
              Quote: Erg
              Investment attractiveness "determines", or rather creates a handful of ruffians who consider themselves the masters of the world.

              The country's leadership creates investment attractiveness. You can’t influence it in any way.
              Quote: Erg
              . To look at the world not with their eyes, but with your own.

              From this sausage in the refrigerator is not added
              Quote: Erg
              Personally to myself. Due to sanctions (sticks in the wheels), my family’s income was halved (including prices)

              Not because of sanctions, but because of stocks in the economy and falling oil prices
              Quote: Erg
              I go to the Voronezh, Tula, Rostov regions, Krasnodar Territory. I see the villages. People live normally (and even very much).

              Come on, although everyone has their own understanding - it is NORMAL if it consists in
              Quote: Erg
              I have a roof over my head, children and grandchildren study and do not starve

              then yes
              Quote: Erg
              but don’t you see that great efforts are being made to pull backward regions.

              My friend, who has a construction business, says that corruption has become simply prohibitive, you can’t move without a rollback.
              1. Erg
                Erg April 29 2016 10: 45
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                From this sausage in the refrigerator is not added

                This will add intelligence to the head. What makes us different from you is that you see happiness in "sausage", and we are in harmony and spirit. My grandfathers did not fight for sausage, unlike yours. hi
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 29 2016 11: 09
                  +3
                  Quote: Erg
                  From this will be added to the mind in the head

                  Why
                  Quote: Erg
                  What makes us different from you, that you see happiness in "sausage", and we are in harmony and spirit

                  I noticed this by the number of people in museums. In shopping centers it was an order of magnitude more.
                  The first time I saw it. so that there would be absolutely no queue at the entrance to the Hermitage (as well as to the Zoological. Russian. Petropavlovka. Pushkin, artillery. Kazan. Isakievsky), and the entrance to the Hermitage --- 600 rubles per person --- greatly contributes to the development of harmony and spirit .

                  Quote: Erg
                  My grandfathers did not fight for sausage, unlike yours.

                  Shut your mouth, my one grandfather died, and the second came back as an invalid of the second group with his right arm almost severed.
                  1. alicante11
                    alicante11 April 29 2016 13: 30
                    0
                    I noticed this by the number of people in museums. In shopping centers it was an order of magnitude more.


                    And this is always the case. Because I want to eat every day, but we don’t take spiritual food every day.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef April 29 2016 13: 43
                      +1
                      Quote: alicante11
                      And this is always the case. Because I want to eat every day, but we don’t take spiritual food every day.

                      Strange, in the USSR they wanted to eat the same thing, but the queue in the Hermitage was constant.
                      1. Aleksey_K
                        Aleksey_K April 29 2016 14: 15
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                        Quote: atalef
                        Strange, in the USSR they wanted to eat the same thing, but the queue in the Hermitage was constant.

                        He visited the Hermitage several times in the 70 and even did not stand in line with his fighters (tankers); entered, bought tickets for the tour.
                      2. atalef
                        atalef April 29 2016 14: 22
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                        Quote: Алексей_К
                        He visited the Hermitage several times in the 70 and even did not stand in line with his fighters (tankers); entered, bought tickets for the tour.

                        Alexei, if you went on an excursion, passed out of turn. I never saw the entrance to the Hermitage (in Soviet times) without waiting in line. stood usually 2-3 hours.
                    2. alicante11
                      alicante11 April 29 2016 14: 26
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                      Strange, in the USSR they wanted to eat the same thing, but the queue in the Hermitage was constant.


                      There were more "guests of the capitals". You're not going to go too far now.
                    3. atalef
                      atalef April 29 2016 14: 42
                      +1
                      Quote: alicante11
                      Strange, in the USSR they wanted to eat the same thing, but the queue in the Hermitage was constant.


                      There were more "guests of the capitals". You're not going to go too far now.

                      And Petersburgers no longer need?
                    4. alicante11
                      alicante11 April 30 2016 10: 48
                      -2
                      And Petersburgers no longer need?


                      Well, how much can you look at the same thing? Reduce children, relatives from other cities.
                    5. atalef
                      atalef April 30 2016 16: 02
                      +2
                      Quote: alicante11
                      Well, how much can you look at the same thing?

                      Have you been to the Hermitage?
          3. Cat man null
            Cat man null April 30 2016 15: 49
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            I noticed this by the number of people in museums. In shopping centers it was an order of magnitude more.
            The first time I saw it. so that there would be absolutely no queue at the entrance to the Hermitage (as well as to the Zoological. Russian. Petropavlovka. Pushkin, artillery. Kazan. Isakievsky), and the entrance to the Hermitage --- 600 rubles per person --- greatly contributes to the development of harmony and spirit .

            Alexander hi

            How to say .. going to the museum infrequently, and then exactly to see something already seen. Perhaps a different view. But - see exactly, right?

            They go to the Museum for this.

            While they still work, they go to shopping centers (they usually go .. muffins, luggage carriers) .. for food.

            The need for food arises, as a rule, more often than the need for revaluation of values, for example.

            Hence the lack of a queuing museum. In the absence of a change in exposure. When changing the exposure - there are also queues ..

            In this regard, nothing has changed since the times of the USSR. IMHA, yes ..
            1. atalef
              atalef April 30 2016 16: 01
              -1
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              How to say .. going to the museum infrequently, and then exactly to see something already seen. Perhaps a different view. But - see exactly, right?

              They go to the Museum for this.

              While they still work, they go to shopping centers (they usually go .. muffins, luggage carriers) .. for food.

              The need for food arises, as a rule, more often than the need for revaluation of values, for example.

              Hence the lack of a queuing museum. In the absence of a change in exposure. When changing the exposure - there are also queues ..

              In this regard, nothing has changed since the times of the USSR. IMHA, yes.

              It has changed, during the USSR, there were queues for museums (maybe people ate less? belay ) , but not now. They simply were not anywhere.
              Maybe already everyone who wanted to watch? Although I think the problem is that the ticket price is 600 rubles. This is a lot of money (for a Russian) - today. Given that you go to the museum as a family.
          4. Manul
            Manul 4 May 2016 14: 56
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            Quote: atalef
            I noticed this by the number of people in museums. In shopping centers it was an order of magnitude more.
            The first time I saw it. so that there would be absolutely no queue at the entrance to the Hermitage (as well as to the Zoological. Russian. Petropavlovka. Pushkin, artillery. Kazan. Isakievsky), and the entrance to the Hermitage --- 600 rubles per person --- greatly contributes to the development of harmony and spirit .

            I agree about the Hermitage, but about attendance .. As usual, distort. When were you? What was the weather like? That's it. That's when it’s warm, then the lines are on the street. And I work in the Russian Museum. There are such crowds on a regular basis, you’ll be amazed.
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      3. alicante11
        alicante11 April 29 2016 13: 29
        +1
        The country's leadership creates investment attractiveness. You can’t influence it in any way.


        Yeah, and the government also introduces sanctions against itself.

        From this sausage in the refrigerator is not added


        Well, the main thing is the sausage on the counter - 100 varieties. No one promised in the refrigerator.

        Not because of sanctions, but because of stocks in the economy and falling oil prices


        Come on, what are the "shoals" there? And the drop in oil prices means that they have "invested" only in production. Nafik is such an investment.

        My friend, who has a construction business, says that corruption has become simply prohibitive, you can’t move without a rollback.


        You and your friend probably communicate in different languages. I've also worked in the construction business. There is no more corruption than in other places. The problem is different - if there are no ties with government agencies or large businesses, it is difficult to find an order. But it’s just the law of the market, when I started at 2006 there were fewer design companies in 10 than anyone, no one pushed their elbows. By 2012, the competition was already prohibitive.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 29 2016 13: 47
          -2
          Quote: alicante11
          Yeah, and the government also introduces sanctions against itself.

          The result of the policy of the country's leadership.
          Quote: alicante11
          Well, the main thing is the sausage on the counter - 100 varieties.

          Yes, I noticed, by the way, very tasty.

          Quote: alicante11
          Come on, what are the "shoals" there? And the drop in oil prices means that they have "invested" only in production. Nafik is such an investment.

          Without investment, they would not be able to mine
          Quote: alicante11
          You probably communicate in different languages ​​with a friend

          well yes that case belay
          Quote: alicante11
          I've also worked in the construction business. There is no more corruption than in other places.

          So the world has become prohibitive
          Quote: alicante11
          The problem is different - if there are no ties with government agencies or large businesses, it is difficult to find an order.

          This is not a problem - this is corruption
          Quote: alicante11
          But this is just the law of the market,

          Market Laws? In normal countries, such marketers are planted
          Quote: alicante11
          when I started in 2006 there were 10 times fewer design firms in the market, no one was pushing with their elbows. By 2012, competition was already prohibitive.

          Did you pay kickbacks or not?
          Otozh and I about it.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 29 2016 14: 33
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            The result of the policy of the country's leadership


            Yeah, they didn’t let us plunder the country. We decided to spud ourselves. Do not la la.

            Without investment, they would not be able to mine


            Oh, don't whistle. There was just an agreement, we let you into our "plots", and you do not touch us. However, the West wanted everything, as a result of which it was sent.

            This is not a problem - this is corruption


            This is called - LOBBISM, so who but the Jews should be familiar with it :).

            Market Laws? In normal countries, such marketers are planted


            I mean - increased competition. Many other players come to the promising market. And the market is clogged with competitors.

            Did you pay kickbacks or not?


            Never. Once they themselves proposed, and then the prosecutor’s check. As a result, all the money remained with me.
            Well, I don’t know how to roll back, for which I paid. Just do not say that you do not have this in the West.
      4. yehat
        yehat 6 May 2016 09: 47
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        about the fall of the ruble and income. Take a close look at who actually lowers the ruble. It is not sanctions that omit it, but the Central Bank and the government.
        the ruble collapsed in two, then Putin came out and the ruble rose by 2-3%. Everyone applauds Putin as a fighter for the stability of the currency, but do you think that without him, can anyone in our country just take and depreciate this ruble so badly?
        Open your eyes, the government again fooled everyone, reducing the cost of social programs and infrastructure by almost half at our expense. And the shoals in the economy or oil prices are not to blame for this, these are indirect reasons. A big role is played by such drummers of production as Chubais, whose nano-losses amounted to more than 3 billion for 60 years, VTB, which is ineptly dispersing billions of investments and other similar characters. Or the clownish leadership of the Central Bank, which suffered wild losses due to the inability to regulate. Not because of Obama, NATO, Mudis or Merkel we are getting poorer, but because of our leaders, so to speak. It must be clearly understood. When the Moscow-Kazan high-speed railway is 5 times more expensive than the Kazan-Moscow China project, you can think about it by comparing THIS.
  2. NordUral
    NordUral April 29 2016 09: 38
    0
    The author is right! We need to completely forget about the notorious "investment attractiveness", forget about investments and start building our own state economy. As it was already.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 29 2016 11: 21
      -2
      Quote: NordUral
      . As it was already.

      How was it?
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 29 2016 12: 01
        +1
        Until Khrushchev and the company appeared, it was good.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 29 2016 12: 19
          -1
          Quote: NordUral
          Until Khrushchev and the company appeared, it was good.

          Not understood ? You claim that industrialization (under Stalin) was carried out without outside help? belay
          Without American (mainly) technologies, plants (turnkey purchased) and specialists? belay
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 29 2016 13: 32
            +1
            Not understood ? You claim that industrialization (under Stalin) was carried out without outside help? belay


            This is not called "help" but trade. Help is when giving away for free. And when a customer is stripped to the point where he becomes hungry, this is not help.
            1. atalef
              atalef April 29 2016 13: 42
              -2
              Quote: alicante11
              This is not called "help" but trade.

              And what is investment?
              and if you didn’t trade the states at the time and don’t sell the USSR everything and everything — you could carry out industrialization.
              By the way, when visiting the Hermitage (10 days ago), the excursion plant separately touched on how much treasure was sold for nothing for its (industrialization) holding
              Quote: alicante11
              And when the buyer is stripped to the extent that his hunger begins, this is not help.

              And who was the buyer?
              States bought gold and cultural property - sold technology, the USSR issued concessions - Machine States. specialists, etc.
              What is the connection with hunger?
              The states were not paid in grain or meat.
              And if the States (as you write) undressed. in my opinion there were at least 3 exits
              1. Do not sell
              2Sell to another
              3 Do it yourself.
              How about this?
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 April 29 2016 14: 39
                -1
                And what is investment?


                And depending on what kind of game - if the game is on the stock exchange, then speculative capital. If the purchase of production - then a raider seizure.

                and if you didn’t trade the states at the time and don’t sell the USSR everything and everything — you could carry out industrialization.


                Well, industrialization would go on longer. And that’s all.

                What is the connection with hunger?


                And in order to extract "gold", it was necessary to sell the grain, because there was nothing else the West needed and what the state was ready to give away.

                2Sell to another


                Well, they traded with the Germans until Hitler’s impudent Saxons brought to power.

                3 Do it yourself.


                If it were not for the military threat, industrialization could have been done on its own in a longer time. However, there was no time.
              2. atalef
                atalef April 29 2016 14: 57
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                Quote: alicante11
                And depending on what kind of game, if the game is on the stock exchange, then it is speculative capital. If the purchase of production - the raider seizure

                belay
                Quote: alicante11
                Well, industrialization would go on longer. And that’s all.

                as ?
                Quote: alicante11
                And in order to extract "gold", it was necessary to sell the grain, because there was nothing else the West needed and what the state was ready to give away.

                They did not mine gold, confiscated it, or didn’t you hear anything about it?
                Quote: alicante11
                Well, they traded with the Germans until Hitler’s impudent Saxons brought to power.

                pennies again. Is this what does it have to do with? By the way, is there data on trade with the Germans during the period of industrialization?
                How do you always jump off a topic?

                Quote: alicante11
                If it were not for the military threat, industrialization could have been done on its own in a longer time. However, there was no time.

                Without equipment, technology, etc., etc. - it can and can, only we can talk only about what happened.
              3. alicante11
                alicante11 April 30 2016 10: 50
                0
                as ?


                Very simple. Was there a starting pair of machines? It was. On these machines other machines are made, more modern, and so on. Just longer. But if you do not fight, then cheaper and better.

                They did not mine gold, confiscated it, or didn’t you hear anything about it?


                In fact, the gold that was confiscated (and rightly so, the people's good should work for the people) for industrialization would not be enough. The basis of industrialization was the export of food. Hence the famine.

                pennies again. Is this what does it have to do with? By the way, is there data on trade with the Germans during the period of industrialization?


                Until the 33rd year - a shaft. Cooperation between the two "rogue countries".

                Without equipment, technology, etc., etc. - it can and can, only we can talk only about what happened.


                We had all this, the technologies were even on the level in RI, the other thing is that the quantity of production was much smaller, and this is just a fixable thing.
              4. atalef
                atalef April 30 2016 16: 10
                -1
                Quote: alicante11
                Was there a starting pair of machines? It was. On these machines other machines are made, more modern, and so on.

                Machine tools make machine tools - by themselves. belay This is not a potato planted for you - the potato has grown

                Quote: alicante11
                In fact, the gold that was confiscated (and rightly so, the people's good must work for the people)

                This is not a public goodness. Robbed a huge number of people and took honestly earned.
                And cultural values ​​- well, so the barbarians melted the same works of art into bars

                Quote: alicante11
                The basis of industrialization was the export of food. Hence the famine.

                link please ...
                Quote: alicante11
                Until the 33rd year - a shaft. Cooperation between the two "rogue countries".

                Industrialization began in 1929, examples of economic cooperation with Germany since 1930 - pliz.
                And compare it to US supplies

                Quote: alicante11
                We had all this, the technologies even in RI were at the level

                Again for the fish - a pittance. Did not have . and what was destroyed.
                Quote: alicante11
                that quantitatively production was much less

                Sho tse take? as maloros say.
    2. yehat
      yehat 6 May 2016 16: 30
      0
      Well, it wasn’t quite help, nevertheless they paid for it with highly liquid types of resources. Rather, it can be called a mutually beneficial acquisition of services.
  3. Cat man null
    Cat man null April 29 2016 12: 53
    -2
    Quote: NordUral
    Until Khrushchev and the company appeared, it was good.

    - Did you catch yourself? Or did the books just read? wink

    And, yes .. There you wanted to say something about the financing of the "Ear of Moscow" by Gazprom to enlighten me, the wretched one .. completely .. laughing

    Quote: NordUral
    How many words, but as if far from it

    You really ... don’t leave attention ..
  • Million
    Million April 29 2016 12: 20
    +3
    That's right! But Dima Medvedev speaking on TV said that our economy will be raised by investments. Something is happening in our government ..
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null April 29 2016 13: 23
      -6
      Quote: Million
      in our government

      - What are you-from the government ??

      Well, I'm right now ... angry
  • yehat
    yehat 6 May 2016 16: 29
    0
    Do not forget about investments, but minimize the speculative side of investments!
    in the investments themselves, the invested-received is nothing wrong, it is bad when this tool is used for other purposes and the object of investment becomes a hostage to financial transactions.
  • Thirteenth
    Thirteenth April 29 2016 07: 44
    +4
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    my friend, you described the life of 80-85% of Russians



    God be with you my friend. If 85% of Russians lived in the conditions I described, then we would have had another revolution. I am talking about that small part of the population that lives in a dying rural area. And every year there are fewer such people. Old people are dying, young people, who are smarter and quicker, are leaving closer to the city or to the city.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2016 09: 22
      -1
      Quote: Thirteenth
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      my friend, you described the life of 80-85% of Russians



      God be with you my friend. If 85% of Russians lived in the conditions I described, then we would have had another revolution. I am talking about that small part of the population that lives in a dying rural area. And every year there are fewer such people. Old people are dying, young people, who are smarter and quicker, are leaving closer to the city or to the city.

      Yes, but even in the cities (district) there is nothing to do sometimes, they themselves go to the "region" to earn money. And the villages around the undead remind of summer cottages. For example, we have 4-5 complexes left in the district, two of which are more or less serious, and this is from almost two dozen villages.
      1. Thirteenth
        Thirteenth April 29 2016 09: 31
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        yes, but sometimes there is nothing to do in (regional) cities, they themselves go to the "region" to earn money


        It happens and they go. We usually travel to Moscow or Yaroslavl. But now there are fewer "migrant workers".
        The fact that in small towns there is nothing to do is fiction. There is work, though the salary is many times less than in the same Moscow.

        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        .a village around the undead reminiscent of suburban villages.


        Yeah, but on condition that these villages can be easily reached by car at any time of the year, and not by tractor!
        Here, too, residents of large cities buy houses in villages for summer cottages, but again, only in places with impaired access.
        1. Lukich
          Lukich April 29 2016 09: 41
          -4
          Quote: Thirteenth
          The fact that in small towns there is nothing to do is fiction. There is work, though the salary is many times less than in the same Moscow.

          but then the prices are much lower than the capital
          1. Thirteenth
            Thirteenth April 29 2016 09: 45
            +4
            Quote: Lukich
            but then the prices are much lower than the capital



            The prices are lower for public transport and housing is naturally cheaper. And the rest of the prices are similar. That food, that clothing - cost about the same as in big cities. What is definitely cheaper in a big city than ours is household appliances and electronics. We overpay interest by 15-20, or even more.
            1. Lukich
              Lukich April 29 2016 10: 28
              -2
              Quote: Thirteenth
              What food

              but in small towns, the problem of nutrition from their household plots is much easier to solve. I live in Lipetsk. there is a plot. at least something, but we have our own table. Yes, and on the market the products are not very expensive. I don’t have plots alone.
  • atalef
    atalef April 29 2016 09: 35
    +3
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    my friend, you described the life of 80-85% of Russians. not everyone lives in large cities, the bulk of the population lives exactly as you said, and see around what you see

    Hey . Andrei .
    I was in St. Petersburg with friends, 11 days.
    Everything is beautiful, cool, a sea of ​​good impressions.
    In general (according to my impressions) - life is not simple and cannot be easy.
    mk The usual trip to a restaurant, absolutely ordinary, no frills for 3 people - 2.500-3.500 rubles.
    Taxis from the hotel to Dybenko (half an hour by metro), though they got into traffic jam - 1100 rubles.
    So set the table on the dump (before leaving) - 5trub.
    For us, this is not a lot of money, but a normal salary in St. Petersburg is 40-50 tr (in the realm of real estate - generally in the realm of fantasy), and from this you have to pay from a communal apartment to everything else.
    Well, this is not the main thing, included here * Let them say * and there alone says, I earn 12 tr. (this is in some village) - everyone began to ask how it was possible to live on this (the program is from Moscow), to which he turned his eyes and says, yes, the bulk of us get 7t.r. - then I already precipitated. But how can you live on this money?
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 29 2016 10: 43
      +1
      That's right, our quality of life is compared to large cities-industrial centers, or developed regions with a favorable climate (although everything is far from prosperous there) where, at the very least, you can find work. But on business trips I saw enough of most of the country's territory, where people simply survive in the literal sense of the word, because there, it is generally impossible to make money, only the sale of what nature will give, and even this must be sold, and since there is no free money who is not, then "barter" of the type "you tell me, I tell you" is flourishing. The "richest" people there are pensioners. Yes, do not laugh, because only they receive "real" money, but there is one thing ... but this pension is also necessary to receive! since the entire Soviet infrastructure - roads, bridges, etc. has already fallen into decay due to the fact that the state does not give a damn about it, no one brings a pension to the villages and villages and pensioners themselves need to go and receive this pension to the regional center or somewhere else where there is "civilization". Previously, they gave a pension to "walkers" (on "trust") who once a month went for it from all pensioners, but bandits began to attack them and take money away, and therefore, now pensioners need to personally come and receive their money or by proxy, notarized , someone rides and receives. Damn, yes, most people who live in cities do not even imagine what hardships people are suffering now in the rest of our vast country, but they do not complain and philosophically notice all the difficulties: “What did you want ... to live life, not a field go .... "
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null April 29 2016 18: 35
        0
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        But on business trips I’ve seen enough of a large part of the country, where people simply survive in the literal sense of the word

        - coordinates .. surnames .. I know people nearby that "survive in the literal sense of the word" .. we can, in the canservatory, what to fix, not?

        Quote: Monster_Fat
        this pension also needs to be received!

        - It has always been like that, and under the Union .. no?

        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Damn, yes, most people who live in cities do not even imagine what hardships people are suffering now in the rest of our vast country, but they do not complain and philosophically notice all the difficulties: "What did you want ... to live life, not a field go .... "

        - yeah, .. there are no relatives there and relatives ..

        Ksati: Moster Fat - literal translation - Fatty Herod ..

        You have a wonderful nickname, man .. says a lot laughing
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 April 29 2016 13: 35
      0
      mk The usual trip to a restaurant, absolutely ordinary, no frills for 3 people - 2.500-3.500 rubles.


      Damn, well, you were surprised. My wife and I 5 years ago for two "no frills" for 3 pieces "gorged". True, 2/3 of the children were brought home in "brakes".

      Taxis from the hotel to Dybenko (half an hour by metro), though they got into traffic jam - 1100 rubles.


      And I sat in Moscow in Dolgoprudny, traveled for 4 hours and unloaded at Domodeovo - 2 rubles.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 29 2016 13: 51
        0
        Quote: alicante11
        Damn, well, you were surprised. My wife and I 5 years ago for two "no frills" for 3 pieces "gorged". True, 2/3 of the children were brought home in "brakes".

        who used to live, now lives.
        Poverty is different. someone has liquid cabbage soup, someone has small pearls.
        By the way, Anek in the subject
        The family is sitting in a restaurant - muses, wife and children. Ate, drank, food remained. The wife says to the waiter - "Wrap the rest with our dog"
        Children in chorus - "Hurray !!!! They will buy us a DOG »

        Quote: alicante11
        And I sat in Moscow in Dolgoprudny, traveled for 4 hours and unloaded at Domodeovo - 2 rubles.

        and I'm talking about, and Z.P. of a friend working in the Region - 20k per month (with Saturday working day)
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 April 29 2016 14: 42
          0
          who used to live, now lives.


          C'mon, I’ve spent the last three years on 25 thousand a month with three children. And it’s not a fact that it won’t happen like that. Such is the dangers under capitalism. You never know what will happen tomorrow. What I do not like this system.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 29 2016 15: 03
            +1
            Quote: alicante11
            C'mon, I’ve lived for three years the last 25 thousand a month with three children

            So what ?
            Quote: alicante11
            And it’s not a fact that it won’t happen like that. Such is the dangers under capitalism.

            Why, I also live under capitalism.
            Quote: alicante11
            You never know what will happen tomorrow

            I know very well.
            a month ago, they added 10% to my salary, in June they will add another 1% (for length of service) the next year in June 1%, a year later, 8.9% in April, then 1% in June, then again 1% in June, then 8.7% in April and 1% in June,. approximately in such proportions for another 4 years. then (in 8 years) I will reach the maximum tariff rate and will receive only 1% per year of supplements in June, and so on until 40 years of service, then at 64 years old, the premiums will be only in terms of inflation, then at 67 on retirement. 75% of Z.P.
            I’m here 24 of the year, have never been deceived
            Quote: alicante11
            What I do not like this system.

            And you never had normal capitalism.
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 April 30 2016 10: 56
              0
              Why, I also live under capitalism.


              Well, so you have the same trick, tomorrow the crisis in Israel will happen if the Americans throw you, and you go to your former homeland, which you dislike, to seek happiness.


              I know very well.
              I’m here 24 of the year, have never been deceived


              Everything happens for the first time.

              And you never had normal capitalism.


              And I speak not only for Russia.
              1. atalef
                atalef April 30 2016 16: 15
                0
                Quote: alicante11
                Well, so you have the same chip, tomorrow the crisis in Israel will happen if the Americans throw you

                And nobody seemed to throw you, but from crisis to crisis.
                Quote: alicante11
                and you will go to your former homeland, which you dislike, to seek happiness.

                I have wonderful feelings for Russia, not more than 5 days ago I returned from another trip.
                I have happiness here.
                Quote: alicante11
                Everything happens for the first time.

                Well, this is normal, you have all the comments - it will, they will throw it, you will go, it will happen --- are you tired? The prophet, when it will be, then we'll talk.
                Quote: alicante11
                And I speak not only for Russia.

                And where did you live, what would you say?
                In which country ? What do you even know about capitalism? laughing
                1. family tree
                  family tree April 30 2016 16: 51
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  5 days ago he returned from another trip.

                  Hello, hello hi
                  Sanya, where did you bury our cop! am
                  The penultimate message about Courvoisier, the last, about hello to the whole gang and drinking beer, with you, between the rest what .
                  Beer polished cognac is a crown crime. Beer needs to be polished with vodka.
                  Stab, counterintelligence, where Ruslana hid bully Anyway, we’ll find drinks
                2. atalef
                  atalef April 30 2016 17: 01
                  0
                  Quote: perepilka
                  Hello, hello
                  Sanya, where did you bury our cop!

                  I'm shocked myself
                  Quote: perepilka
                  the last post about courvosier, the last, about hello to the whole gang and drinking beer, with you, between the rest

                  Here I am about that, they drank a glass of beer, then a couple of cognac (he brought 0 with him. I received a liter of Corvoisier ..... and disappeared. belay
                  Quote: perepilka
                  Stab, counterintelligence, where Ruslana hid. Anyway, we’ll find

                  He was with his son-in-law. We will stab it.
                  wassat
                3. family tree
                  family tree April 30 2016 17: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  He was with his son-in-law. We will stab it.

                  With son-in-law? No, we will not stab what Well, if I judged by my father-in-law, since I was a son-in-law then, I could hide for a week in the woods, winding kilometers and replenishing stocks of moonshine in the surrounding villages request So now just wait. This belay Pancake! Who is the king in Sweden !? Even if I'm worried, if I drink the country, or in the "Point" what Again, the international incident will be.
                4. atalef
                  atalef April 30 2016 18: 05
                  0
                  Quote: perepilka
                  Quote: atalef
                  He was with his son-in-law. We will stab it.

                  With son-in-law? No, we will not stab what Well, if I judged by my father-in-law, since I was a son-in-law then, I could hide for a week in the woods, winding kilometers and replenishing stocks of moonshine in the surrounding villages request So now just wait. This belay Pancake! Who is the king in Sweden !? Even if I'm worried, if I drink the country, or in the "Point" what Again, the international incident will be.

                  Yes, if the point is a problem, although as they say once ... not a traitor
  • Roman 11
    Roman 11 April 29 2016 07: 31
    +1
    Quote: Thirteenth
    but now this is already gone, devastation and desolation, overgrown with undergrowth of the field.

    This is the most annoying thing, it’s impossible to watch calmly. In some countries, this situation is the limit of dreams, every meter is worth its weight in gold.

    Is it not possible to pass a law ABOUT ABANDONED LANDS ? Let such arable territories be transferred for indefinite use, provided that they are cultivated annually! A tax on them is charged purely nominally 1% !! This will increase productivity, and this will increase food safety, lower domestic prices and increase exports - all around are solid pluses! Land should benefit people and the state.
    1. Thirteenth
      Thirteenth April 29 2016 07: 48
      +1
      Quote: Novel 11
      But is it really impossible to pass the law on abandoned lands?



      And at the same time, to build roads or at least repair them. Without normal roads, I'm afraid no one needs these abandoned lands in FIG.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 29 2016 09: 44
        +1
        Just yesterday, Ryzhkov at Solovyov said (and you can’t argue with him) that there was no money for this in the budget, not a single kilometer of new roads. All communized.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2016 09: 42
      +1
      But is it really impossible to pass the law on abandoned lands?
      And why is the liberals? They have a rent of raw materials (the inheritance of the damned scoop) and slaves, what more could you want (except to make us smaller)?
      1. Thirteenth
        Thirteenth April 29 2016 15: 02
        0
        Quote: NordUral
        And why is the liberals?




        Are there any liberalists in the State Duma? Take a closer look: edros, commies, Zhirinovites and Mironovtsy ... There is neither Ryzhkov nor Navalny, nor anyone else from this gang. So it’s probably not about liberalists.
  • was-witek
    was-witek April 29 2016 10: 24
    0
    In cx, technology has changed, productivity and efficiency have increased. No need to moan about abandoned villages. People want to live in good comfortable conditions. Now, like all of Europe, the work is on a rotational basis. With our territories this is the most reasonable approach. We arrived on powerful equipment, planted in two days and left. We arrived fed, left, arrived harvested, left. And this is normal !!! There will be no return to the old !! New pig farms with a staff of 100 people give 80 tons !!!!! meat per year. Each day, 000 animals weighing 500 kg will be driven into a gas chamber for euthanization and further processing of carcasses. Two regions account for 120% of pork in Russia. Of course, it’s a pity for the old villages, but time is moving forward and there is no need to get upset about this !!
  • Number 17
    Number 17 April 29 2016 07: 08
    +1
    Dima didn’t joke at school. He studied together, only he was one class older. By the way, when the Crimea returned to their homeland, Dmitry Polonsky sent one of the lots of new correct textbooks for schools to gymnasium No. 1 ... just the first gymnasium in Simferopol opened in 1812 at a time when the Russian army was giving the French a light on a well-known field. Here in this school we studied.
  • siberalt
    siberalt April 29 2016 08: 23
    -1
    From the time of Peter the Great, one road Moscow - St. Petersburg is still under construction in Russia. However, we have tenacious traditions. laughing What kind of economy can we talk about if we have complete off-road, the eternal misfortune of Russia.
  • Evgesh91
    Evgesh91 April 29 2016 05: 24
    +10
    yes, even if they put the rating "dump of the world", it won't make my life worse smile
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn April 29 2016 06: 24
      +2
      "rating" dump of the world ""
      Well, this is not necessary, the world has already tried to make a nuclear landfill from our country ... the second time, I hope, it will not work.
  • KOH
    KOH April 29 2016 05: 26
    +14
    A healthy and balanced economy, it is important for any country. And of course we have room to grow. But unlike most Western economies with an exorbitant rating. Russia's economy is real. It produces, works, invents and creates ... It is doomed to grow and develop, and we need to help her in this.
    Absolutely correct!
    I’ll add with the permission of the author. And listen less to our liberal idiots ...


    And Moodies, for one name only, you definitely can’t trust ...)))))) laughing
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m April 29 2016 05: 29
    +1
    Even Moodys hints that it is time to change the government.
    1. KOH
      KOH April 29 2016 05: 53
      0
      Mudiz has been hinted at this for a long time: IT would go IT !!!
      1. Leto
        Leto April 29 2016 07: 26
        +1
        Quote: CON
        Mudiz has been hinted at this for a long time: IT would go IT !!!

        Those. Does the government do everything right?
        1. KOH
          KOH April 29 2016 08: 24
          -1
          The government may not do everything right, but Mudiz is definitely not a decree ...
          1. Leto
            Leto April 29 2016 08: 43
            0
            Quote: CON
            The government may not do everything right, but Mudiz is definitely not a decree ...

            And who is the decree? Apparently no one.
  • Koshak
    Koshak April 29 2016 05: 35
    +2
    Listen to all such Moodies - there will be no time to live. wassat
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan April 29 2016 05: 36
    +3
    Somehow I came across an amusing video with V. Karasev on Ukrainian TV. He said in front of the audience with a blue eye: "Well, what about Russia? Well, yes - the army, there is space ... And the economy is weak!" At the very least, we are 6-7 the world's economy in terms of the absolute volume of GDP, and we certainly don’t have to be rubbish to measure ourselves with pips ...
    1. Bramb
      Bramb April 29 2016 06: 03
      +6
      Do you still measure GDP? ))))))))
      Well, let's try: their F-35 and our Su-35. Two planes are conditionally equal (we will not argue right now), but what about GDP? These F-35s in terms of GDP as our 10 SU! Actually we have one plane. and in GDP they have 10 times more.)))
      Further: the cost of kg of grain: their 1 kg is equal to our three! In reality, the bread is the same, but in terms of its GDP they have three times more and that GMO-shny.))
      Well, etc. Such they are, these GDP ...
      1. Roman 11
        Roman 11 April 29 2016 07: 50
        0
        Quote: Bramb
        In reality, the bread is the same, but in terms of its GDP they have three times more and that GMO-shny.))

        Do you know why consumers don’t accept GMO wheat? Oncology from this. But beans, corn, potatoes, and peas are fed with this bacillus ... and some livestock consume.
      2. Samoyed
        Samoyed April 29 2016 10: 16
        0
        Into the eye! Yes, here in Lithuania we have an expensive communal apartment and this high cost also plus GDP. The devil in the details.
      3. Kite
        Kite April 29 2016 10: 21
        0
        And add that their GDP includes the "services" of banks, stock exchanges, lawyers and agencies, such as "Mu ...", whose products are only written (numerical).
        1. atalef
          atalef April 29 2016 10: 29
          0
          Quote: Kite
          And add that their GDP includes the "services" of banks, stock exchanges, lawyers and agencies, such as "Mu ...", whose products are only written (numerical).

          Any GDP includes * services *. in Russian they are the same key.
          Services - this is the same work and a huge number of enterprises - this is the service sector, let’s remove credit activity (so as not to bother you)
          Shops, Tourism, Television, communications, Healthcare, Energy. Water supply, etc. etc. --- Is this all the service sector --- or can you live without it?
          the totality of industries and activities serving production and the economy as a whole, creating for them, as it were, a common foundation, support. The infrastructure of the economy includes the construction of transport and communications, warehousing, energy and water supply, etc. The range of industries related to the infrastructure of the economy is defined differently in different countries. Their general purpose is to simplify and make more efficient the flows of goods and services between sellers and buyers. Some authors also refer to the infrastructure of the economy as science, healthcare, the education system, calling them non-productive (social) infrastructure of the economy
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 29 2016 13: 39
            0
            Any GDP includes * services *. in Russian they are the same key.


            But the percentage is much smaller. I have cited the table repeatedly.

            Services - this is the same work and a huge number of enterprises - this is the service sector, let’s remove credit activity (so as not to bother you)


            But they don't produce anything. And, therefore, it is not correct to take them into account in the GDP - "product".

            Shops, Tourism, Television, communications, Healthcare, Energy. Water supply, etc. etc. --- Is this all the service sector --- or can you live without it?


            As well as exchanges, banks and McDonald's.
            1. atalef
              atalef April 29 2016 14: 25
              0
              Quote: alicante11
              But the percentage is much smaller. I cited the table repeatedly

              The structure of * services * just implies the development of the economy. even in China, services are above 50% of GDP

              Quote: alicante11
              But they don't produce anything. And, therefore, it is not correct to take them into account in the GDP - "product".

              Look what is included in the category * services * (I gave the link) - then approve
              Quote: alicante11
              As well as exchanges, banks and McDonald's.

              Of course, and? McDonald's produces nothing? Exchange - the same store, Banks - working with money - this is work. therefore less pathos. turn to the facts
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 April 29 2016 14: 46
                0
                The structure of * services * just implies the development of the economy. even in China, services are above 50% of GDP


                Not really yours. There 42% only industrial production.

                Look what is included in the category * services * (I gave the link) - then approve


                What's the difference? If a product is not produced, then it is not a product. And the sale of air, pleasure, etc. It just raises the price of a real product, on which the cost of "services" is screwed up.

                Of course, and? McDonald's produces nothing? Exchange - the same store, Banks - working with money - this is work. therefore less pathos. turn to the facts


                I saw a McDonald's "product" - a young, fat munching eel.
                Stocks - this is not sausage - air trading. Even a commodity exchange is now trading in paper resources. Banks - work, however, agree. But the work is empty - without producing a product.
    2. Roman 11
      Roman 11 April 29 2016 07: 41
      +1
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      At the very least, we are 6-7 the world economy in terms of absolute GDP

      But in fact?
      1. atalef
        atalef April 29 2016 11: 03
        +1
        Quote: Novel 11
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        At the very least, we are 6-7 the world economy in terms of absolute GDP

        But in fact?

        And in fact in 2015 it was 13th (8% of US GDP)
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan April 29 2016 11: 29
          0
          Quote: atalef
          And in fact in 2015 was the 13th

          The facts you have, Colleague, as always rigged! am Although I can assume that your perception of reality may be affected by excessive use of counterfeit Courvoisier yes.
          Hello, spiteful! drinks
          1. atalef
            atalef April 29 2016 11: 40
            0
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            The facts you have, Colleague, as always rigged!

            Jury wink
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%81%D1%82%

            D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%92%D0%92%D0%9F_(%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%B

            D% D0% B0% D0% BB)
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            Although I can assume that your perception of reality may be affected by excessive use of counterfeit Courvoisier

            So I think. Ruslana (since I received the gift for Dnyuha) - not on VO or in Skype.
            A drugan, he said, no worries --- AS PRESENT wassat
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            Hello, spiteful!

            Puffer - puffer. drinks
            Hi myself hi
  • izya top
    izya top April 29 2016 05: 37
    +6
    and yak zhezh "truncated gone! Putinslil!"? can not lie the most honest Western leaders, not a kgovy redhead after all, where everything is built on lies what
  • AleksPol
    AleksPol April 29 2016 05: 46
    +5
    In our area, too, progress has begun, an abandoned farm is being restored, some movement has begun on the fields.
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 April 29 2016 07: 59
      +1
      Quote: AleksPol
      progress has also begun in the area, an abandoned farm is being restored, some movement in the fields

      And these Western creatures can lift the sanctions if they see that the rise has begun in Russia! And then again enter, if there will be growth again ...... No WTO is needed for a jester! Otherwise, this is a great hook, for eternal priponos. Where, then, is our sovereignty?
    2. atalef
      atalef April 29 2016 12: 19
      -1
      Quote: AleksPol
      , in the fields some kind of movement has begun.

      Spring, sort of like? wink
    3. ydjin
      ydjin April 29 2016 13: 00
      0
      I’ll bring my two pennies. We are constructing large pig-breeding, dairy complexes on Sakhalin, as well as expanding the capacities for the production of Hereford beef (marbled beef, I had the opportunity to receive excellent meat as a gift!) So it's not so bad! Greenhouse production is also growing quite well; it was related to the supply of equipment for this. So the conclusion is that we are being buried, and we are growing! Break through!
  • aba
    aba April 29 2016 05: 46
    +7
    Builds a bridge to Crimea


    But don’t you all know that the diggers of the Black Sea have responsibly declared that the implementation of this project of Russia is technically beyond the power and the bridge will NEVER be completed! laughing
    1. HERMES
      HERMES April 29 2016 06: 20
      +2
      Quote: aba
      Builds a bridge to Crimea


      But don’t you all know that the diggers of the Black Sea have responsibly declared that the implementation of this project of Russia is technically beyond the power and the bridge will NEVER be completed! laughing


      They sleep and see how Russia will sink to the bottom with its bridge ... dreaming as they say is not harmful ...
  • Bramb
    Bramb April 29 2016 06: 00
    +4
    A good agency will not be called Mood ...
    Is it worth the time to spend on them?
    By the way: what’s the rating of the Mood ...
  • loginovich
    loginovich April 29 2016 06: 01
    +2
    Russia has 6-th in the world gold reserves, which is constantly growing. And only in the past year, its size has increased by 200 tons. This is the size of the entire gold reserves of Kazakhstan.

    A small remark.
    It must be remembered that Russia provides open data on its gold. Unlike the United States. Which have long abandoned the audit. And they do not let anyone in with checks. Type you need to take their word for it


    Ivan, the next time you get mad, remember the Tomsk roads. A golden loaf is good. Only safe roads are better. I really want you to be proud of safe Russian roads, and not buying up gold instead of building and repairing roads.
    1. Bramb
      Bramb April 29 2016 06: 11
      +3
      Quote: loginovich
      Ivan, the next time you get mad, remember the Tomsk roads. A golden loaf is good. Only safe roads are better. I really want you to be proud of safe Russian roads, and not buying up gold instead of building and repairing roads.

      Advise from a country that Ivan gave you, but you couldn’t keep it - do you think this is normal and will someone listen to you? )))))
      What do you want, horses, we all saw and heard and hear.
      You bark, and we go our own way. You go where your lord orders you a whip. And do you advise us? Is it your lord from overseas ordered or decided to curry favor himself?))))))
      1. loginovich
        loginovich April 29 2016 07: 12
        +5
        Do you don’t like my origin, or are Russian roads the best in the world? In Soviet times, I worked as a fisherman in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. You know the fish, I knew how to smell a fish and even relatives in Russia, so I think that I have the right to wish Russians good roads. My grandfather also called Ivan, and he died in VO, only he is from Polesie. You hope not all Ukrainians during the VO years consider Galicia for the grenadiers.
        If you want to answer, try contacting you. Rudeness you know does not decorate. I am grateful for enlightening that you are minus.
    2. Angara
      Angara April 29 2016 06: 27
      +3
      Quote: loginovich
      about the Tomsk roads.

      "I heard a ringing, but does not know where he is." It was about the Omsk roads. At least we have no roads. And in hohland, there are some directions, but the folds of the terrain wassat
    3. AleksPol
      AleksPol April 29 2016 07: 01
      +4
      Compare the length of the roads of Russia and any European country. Of course, this does not justify the condition of the roads. But here, not everything is so bad. We are building a new highway, started a large-scale repair of access roads. Although the roads are terrible in the city, but I hope that hands will reach them too
      1. loginovich
        loginovich April 29 2016 08: 23
        +5
        Dear Alex, thank you for your courtesy, it's nice to communicate with a polite person. In no case did I boast about the state of Ukraine’s roads. They are not what they are and often these are directions, I meant that money in Russia is not spent quite passionately. Why buy gold, if an ambulance cannot come to the patient, especially brag about it. If you do not agree with me, please explain why. With pleasure to read your arguments.
        1. AleksPol
          AleksPol April 29 2016 10: 21
          0
          In Russia there are roads of federal and regional significance. And the condition of regional roads is the concern of local authorities. Basically, these drogues are in poor condition. So, the condition of these roads has nothing to do with increasing gold reserves. Something like this . And gold is growing mainly due to mining in Russia hi
          1. loginovich
            loginovich April 29 2016 17: 41
            0
            Alex thank you very much for the answer. But I’m still convinced that if a few tons of gold in the bins (not your control) is less, and a few hundred kilometers will be more repaired, it will be better for you Alex and for your compatriots.
    4. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 April 29 2016 07: 32
      +1
      loginovich
      . I really want you to be proud of safe Russian roads, and not buying up gold instead of building and repairing roads.

      Vadik Karasev! It's you?????
      1. loginovich
        loginovich April 29 2016 17: 48
        0
        Sorry I could not answer in the morning. Your joke was a success. I laugh. Khazanov is resting.
        I am Gogol N.V. How do you like my joke about Russian roads and ....
    5. ultra
      ultra April 29 2016 09: 07
      0
      Quote: loginovich
      safe Russian roads

      I can’t say anything about the Tomsk roads, but the Lipetsk Voronezh roads are quite normal (not ideal of course).
    6. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 29 2016 09: 47
      +1
      Quote: loginovich
      Ivan the next time you get mad, remember the Tomsk roads

      And I, too, did not like the excessive optimism of the article -
      Russia is a major producer of poultry meat. And annually increases production by 7-10%
      And the breeding material for this bird is still coming from behind the hillock, all broiler crosses are imported.
      Have you tied the price of grain in the domestic market to the external - how is it? Z / P to machine operators did not raise, a diesel fuel in the price the same did not increase. Otkel increase of 40%? The answer is still simple - earlier expensive durum varieties of our wheat were sold abroad, cheaper GMO wheat in Canada was bought for the domestic bakery market. After the jump in the price of $ to buy Canadian wheat has become more expensive. Here is the rationale for raising grain prices domestically.
      Honestly regarding his people?
      1. atalef
        atalef April 29 2016 10: 00
        0
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And I, too, did not like the excessive optimism of the article

        Hi Igor.
        A pessimist is an informed optimist
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 29 2016 10: 05
          0
          Hi Sanya! wink I’ve said hello below to you there.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 29 2016 10: 12
            -1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Hi Sanya! wink I’ve said hello below to you there.

            Are you alluding to the capital letter? I already corrected, you know, I and the spelling are at different poles.
            How are you ?
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 29 2016 10: 44
              -1
              Quote: atalef
              How are you ?

              Ok, Sanya! Cooking the liver for the holidays. laughing Yes, and you need to plow the garden, 10 acres with a goat-cultivator, you can’t master sober! wink
              1. atalef
                atalef April 29 2016 11: 12
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Ok, Sanya! Cooking the liver for the holidays

                Watch out. I'm restoring. 11 days in sovereigns. and even our Easter (yesterday ended) - from today on a diet. Yes, in St. Petersburg I met Ruslan 67. We sat. drank beer.
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Yes, and you need to plow the garden, 10 acres with a goat-cultivator, you can’t handle sober

                With a goat cultivator - it would be even worse. wassat
    7. Samoyed
      Samoyed April 29 2016 10: 13
      +1
      There was no article about roads. If about roads, then Russia has only two troubles: fools and roads. And in other countries? Everything in the world is relative, it is necessary to compare. But in the United States ten times more are in prison than the world average (2% of the population and 25% of all prisoners in the world).
      1. Leto
        Leto April 29 2016 11: 18
        -1
        Quote: Samoyed
        .If it is about roads, then Russia has only two troubles: fools and roads.

        C'mon, I can add more THIES. In our city under the former mayor (who is now the governor) they sold at a lower price more than 1500! apartments intended for the waiting list. Developers renting out houses handed over to the city hall apartments assigned to the city (to the fire department, large families, veterans, graduates of orphanages and other beneficiaries standing in long endless lines), and the deputy mayor, as agreed with him, sold these apartments to shell companies at an unbelievably low price, after why these front companies sold these apartments at market prices. Now the deputy is on trial. the mayor, and the former mayor himself (now the governor) was allegedly not aisles, like yes, I signed, but everything was legal. Can such a person be called a fool? Or does he, in your understanding, not apply to Russia's troubles?
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 29 2016 06: 09
    +19
    I don’t know how anyone, but personally I pray every day so that the sanctions are not lifted. My company spreads its wings right before their eyes. Everything that was developed turned out to be so necessary!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2016 06: 18
      +7
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I don’t know how anyone, but personally I pray every day that sanctions will not be lifted

      imagine if China imposed sanctions !? then, our economy would have to develop not according to the "decimal", but for now, China dominates in stores in all directions, well, except perhaps except for grocery. and so, take in the hardware, tool, shoe store, any thing: made in china.
      1. spech
        spech April 29 2016 06: 46
        +6
        imagine if China imposed sanctions !? then, our economy would have to develop not according to the "decimal", but for now, China dominates in stores in all directions, well, except perhaps except for grocery. and so, take in the hardware, tool, shoe store, any thing: made in china.

        I'll tell you a secret, everything is "made in china" everywhere.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich April 29 2016 06: 59
          +1
          Quote: spech
          I'll tell you a secret, everything is "made in china" everywhere.

          I understand that even the processors in the F-15 turned out to be Chinese, BUT ...! I would like it to be basically everything, because these are jobs and the well-being of people, and the independence of the country, ECONOMY, hell!
      2. Roman 11
        Roman 11 April 29 2016 08: 07
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Imagine if China imposed sanctions !?

        It is not profitable for him if we weaken him, they quickly stumble ..... these demons - partners, just give a chance - right away, as soon as Yugoslavia is taken away. In the 19th - early 20th centuries, he already tried a little.
    2. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim April 29 2016 06: 57
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I don’t know how anyone, but personally I pray every day so that the sanctions are not lifted.

      And if they cancel it, let's go liberate New Russia!
    3. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka April 29 2016 13: 08
      0
      I don’t know how anyone, but personally I pray every day so that the sanctions are not lifted. My company spreads its wings right before their eyes. Everything that was developed turned out to be so necessary!

      we pray with you wink would be used against palm oil and other nasty things! Yes, and anti-monopolists to beat on the head, so that they would give hands to all sorts of monopolists in the field of energy and metal producers! would you be finally interested in why metal is getting more expensive - or was it our nanonist Chubais who suggested adding gold and silver to steel? request
  • Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 April 29 2016 06: 17
    +5
    They also launch their satellites into space on rocket engines that are produced by a country with a "garbage" rating and an economy torn to pieces by the chief chief executive.
  • Wolka
    Wolka April 29 2016 06: 32
    +3
    Well, yes, the rubbish reting of the Russian economy allows us to build cosmodromes and launch space rockets into space and shoot military rockets (Caliber) and the Russian Air Force to terrorize terrorists in Syria, build energy and transport bridges to the Crimea, as well as combine harvesters and other agricultural equipment to rivet Almaty and PAK FA, and there’s a lot of other things, and if so, then many European countries from the EU with their economy and heideocracy don’t even get in the dust, so what kind of retiring, oh, economists and sociologists from geyropa where you...
  • Siberian1965
    Siberian1965 April 29 2016 06: 45
    +4
    It has long been clear that all Western ratings are biased. But based on their findings, real steps are being taken that are unfavorable for our country. Fee for integration into the global economy. First of all, of course, this is connected with finances.
    1. aba
      aba April 29 2016 07: 00
      +3
      But based on their findings, real steps are being taken that are unfavorable for our country.

      Pancake! And how they aspired to the WTO, how quickly they integrated into the World Economy and tried to meet Western standards. And what did this lead to ?! This is a punishment for the merchant nature.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 29 2016 06: 48
    +1
    A decent organization will not be called "Moody's", and let them remember their ratings "Fannie Mae" and "Freddie Mac", so shut up, they are not interesting.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir April 29 2016 07: 16
    +5
    Posted by Udak. Tell the author. Will you worry for a long time that I called you that? In half an hour you don’t remember? Then the question is why do I personally spit these articles from the big bell tower on these ratings. I just love my homeland! And always proud of his homeland. even when most of you were on your knees.
    Another shame is that Moody writes articles for us, and they drive us Moody. Find the YouTube movie Moscow on YouTube in 1947. You won’t even believe that the terrible war has just ended. Around happy faces. Stalin's economy. allowed to cancel the cards. And these Moody in the government do not know how to strain the people, whether to raise the retirement age to 70, let the people pay for the repair of housing. Well, how are sanctions introduced against Moody, but what have the people of Russia to do with it?
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya April 29 2016 07: 23
    0
    One well-known captain said correctly: "... what do you call a yacht, so it will float ...", and "" from this "Moody's" they are called "assholes" in Africa! Although I must remind you that our leadership has already announced all the ratings of these and other foreign assholes not valid and do not reflect the true state of affairs in the world economy, and even more so in the Russian one!
  • Leto
    Leto April 29 2016 07: 24
    +4
    Well, "Evil Ivan" who, as far as I remember, lives in Germany, probably sees better from the outside, and what I see every day is probably a haze in front of the eyes of liberals inspired by ...
    Maybe everything is up to the Urals and everything blooms and flourishes, but here in Siberia everything is getting worse and worse. Even if Mudis put the highest ratings for Russia, nothing would really change for us, we are slowly and confidently slipping into the abyss.
    As of January 1, 2016, the public debt of the Novosibirsk Region reached a record high, approaching 47 billion rubles.

    What do you think happened next? The state allocated funds on credit to pay off part of the debt, i.e. my area behaves like a sick borrower who, for the sake of paying off a debt, takes a loan and so on until a default is announced which is just around the corner.
    After reading such news, you understand that the asphalt that came off the roads along with the snow will not return, and so it happened. "Roads have fallen into disrepair" is said very softly, more than censorship.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 29 2016 09: 59
      +2
      Quote: Leto
      but here in Siberia it’s getting worse and worse

      In the Volga region is not better. hi
  • AleksPol
    AleksPol April 29 2016 07: 28
    +1
    Here's some more good news for Russia-24. The nuclear lighter carrier “SEVMORPUT” is back in service, after 10 years of inactivity. And he will make his first flight to the northern islands, where our military bases are being built
  • then
    then April 29 2016 07: 30
    +1
    We must be careful about nature, it always tells us something, but the mighty Russian language speaks directly MUDIZ!
  • sa-ag
    sa-ag April 29 2016 07: 55
    +4
    "... Russia's economy torn to shreds has squeezed out a significant share of the oil market from Saudi Arabia, and some experts say that now Russia is the main oil exporter in the world. And we are also world leaders in gas export."

    But this is just not good, for several reasons 1. it is a bias in the raw material component, dependence on energy prices; 2. rapid depletion of the subsoil, "faster, higher, stronger" is not very suitable for resource extraction
    1. Samoyed
      Samoyed April 29 2016 08: 15
      +1
      Dial the "hydrogen bomb" - gas and oil are restored!
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 29 2016 08: 02
    +2
    from "Moody's"

    If I'm not mistaken, this agency in 2008 gave high forecasts to American banks and large companies helping to inflate the bubble that burst, dragging the world economy with it. After that, in a normal country, which the United States is not, this agency would no longer be heard. But politics is above honesty (I don't even stutter about justice). And therefore - let the "Moodyes" go a long way to a certain place.
  • Samoyed
    Samoyed April 29 2016 08: 13
    +3
    But it is possible without Western investment, to hell with such a development model, leading to state Nazism as in the United States. Here Kasatonov and Glazyev systematically offer a path without any Western investments! It’s another matter that our liberals do not give a shit about realities, they are in the ideas of the last century. The world has changed, capitalism has turned into imperialism with transnational corporations, as the classics taught: Marx, Engels, Lenin. Learn materiel, not stuffing ...
    1. Leto
      Leto April 29 2016 09: 31
      -1
      Quote: Samoyed
      But it is possible without Western investment, to hell with such a development model, leading to state Nazism as in the United States.

      so what is the problem? Withdraw money from the US state. bonds (and other places) and invest in their own economy, who does not give that?
      Quote: Samoyed
      Another thing is that our liberals do not care about reality

      Who do you mean? You are from Lithuania, how do they relate to Russia? Or are you talking about that bunch of outcasts who go to protest rallies in Russia? They do not solve anything. The one who sits in the Kremlin decides, do you consider him a liberal?
  • shinobi
    shinobi April 29 2016 08: 16
    0
    A country that has its own army and is capable of supporting it by default cannot have a garbage economy. So, everything is wrong with our citizen. There’s another question. And if we hadn’t had an army, we wouldn’t have a citizen the same as you and I probably .
  • Michael
    Michael April 29 2016 08: 46
    0
    Not everything is lost, but not everything is good either! Maybe everyone needs to go to the mirror and ask "What have you done for your country?!, And if you did, is it good?" And the sea begins with a stream.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 29 2016 09: 31
      +3
      "And what have you done for your country?!,
      Let me tell you a secret, there was such a country in the USSR. and so there they did everything for the people and had the right to ask, "what did YOU do for the country."
      Attention is the question that the country is represented by Messrs. Shuvalov. Did Timchenko do for me? She said that Obama is bad and Erdogan is even worse, but what are these gentlemen doing for the country?
      1. atalef
        atalef April 29 2016 09: 52
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        Let me tell you a secret, there was such a country in the USSR. and so there they did everything for the people and had the right to ask, "what did YOU do for the country."

        Kennedy’s famous phrase

        Do not ask what your country has done for you, ask what you can do for your country.

        And apparently the Americans asked themselves this question.
        By the way, there are still some of his statements - they have not lost their relevance today. He asked these questions for a reason, America was in crisis. and see the result

        And we will do it. Not because it is easy, but because it is difficult. - Speech to US citizens before the start of the Lunar program

        And one person can change something, and everyone should try.
        When I took office, I was most struck by the fact that things were really as bad as we claimed.
        Do not ask God for an easy life, ask Him to make you stronger.

        Do not ask what your country has done for you, ask what you can do for your country.


        Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.

        The word "crisis", written in Chinese, consists of two characters: one means "danger", and the other - "an opportunity."
        I am an idealist without illusions.
        You can forget your enemies, but do not forget their names.
        One who can fail can achieve much.
        The nation manifests itself not only in the people to whom it gives life, but also in what people it honors, what people it remembers.
        A committee is twelve people doing the work of one.
        Sincerity always needs proof.
        In domestic politics, we only risk being defeated; foreign policy can bring us to the grave.
        Negotiation should never be out of fear.
        Success has many fathers, and failure is always an orphan.

        Joseph Kennedy was very fond of his granddaughter, the daughter of John Kennedy.
        “Caroline is a very smart girl, you weren’t like that at her age,” he once said to his son.
        “No wonder,” John answered, “look who my father is and who her. [Source?]

        Those who make a peaceful revolution impossible make a violent revolution inevitable.
        I was convinced that the diplomat needed the iron nerves of a professional pickpocket.
        Selfless - illusions, self-serving - money for which you can buy illusions.
        Change is the law of life. And those who look only at the past or only at the present, no doubt, will miss the future.
        ... we must never forget that the highest achievement is not to pronounce loud words, but to live by them.
        The more stupid things I do, the more popular I get.
        The reason for making the final decision remains unknown to the observer, and often to the person who makes the decision.

        There is something to think about.
  • olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 April 29 2016 08: 49
    +1
    Each double-edged sword.
    They assigned the garbage rating to the Russian Federation to attract investment so that foreign companies do not invest in our economy.
    We ask ourselves, did someone invest in the Russian economy?
    Yes, for two decades, finances have been withdrawn from the country, and not only private, but also public and invested in the West. If the reports contain investments, then it is only a part of the finances previously withdrawn from Russia.
    Do you think that many people who have taken loans become prosperous and prosperous? More likely to get out of credit bondage, they sigh with relief and swear never to get in again.
    But you can say goodbye to a loan by paying it off.
    What about investments? These are enterprises transferred to foreign ownership, the profits from which will be derived from the country. If you can compare investments with a loan, then this is a loan, the interest on which will have to be paid forever.
    First of all, financial speculators suffer from the garbage rating - do you feel sorry for them?
    When the sanctions were imposed, the country got the opportunity to produce its own agricultural products, i.e. so far partially, but the situation has been used in favor of the country.
    It is beneficial for the country when products are produced domestically: this means jobs, salaries, taxes to the budget. The vast majority of the population prefers to buy domestic products. Products produced in the region, but not received from overseas, are not saturated with so many chemicals that are used for preservation during long-term transportation. Yes, and patriotism is also present.
    The situation with the garbage rating of the Russian Federation is necessary and can be used to the benefit of the country, this is the best moment,
    to get rid of foreign and speculative dependence on our economy.
    A country needs a bank, a non-profit one, and it’s a type of settlement center that would unite manufacturers. The funds in the bank should be managed by the depositors themselves, jointly deciding which of them will finance a particular project. This bank could become the instrument that will finance projects within the country. What one company cannot finance without a loan, it will be able to finance a group of companies. This would create an economic sector independent of external players.
    We will not be able to change the economic situation in the country with the current economic bloc — these officials have worked and will continue to work for the US economy.
    But we can create a new sector of the economy that works for citizens of the country, combining efforts to produce and provide goods and services to a certain social layer — state employees, children, people with disabilities, and pensioners; increase employment, solvency.
    The garbage rating from the mundi should be used to the benefit of the country's economy.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 29 2016 09: 16
      +3
      Quote: olimpiada15
      They assigned the garbage rating to the Russian Federation to attract investment so that foreign companies do not invest in our economy.

      Ratings are assigned on the basis of the actual state of the economy, you can invest money (and some invest) in trash stocks, just a rating (trash) warns --- investments are risky, there is a big risk of losing money - and so, everyone decides for himself.
      The same is true in the sense of borrowing, if you apply for a loan, an enterprise (state) with a junk rating, automatic loan interest increases - but there’s another question - I’m free, I don’t like it, do not take a loan
      Quote: olimpiada15
      We ask ourselves, did someone invest in the Russian economy?

      Don’t ask, huge investments were also made in the development of minerals, oil, gas, potassium - huge investments from abroad.
      Car factories, Germans invested in real production, etc., etc.
      So come on without slogans. In 2000 and beyond, real money went into the Russian economy from behind a hill, I saw it and generally invested it myself.
      Quote: olimpiada15
      Yes, for two decades, finances have been withdrawn from the country, and not only private, but also public and invested in the West.

      And this is your problem and is in no way connected with Western investment. What am I to blame as a Western investor if you do not continue to invest your profit in the economy, but stupidly withdraw it to the West?
      Quote: olimpiada15
      Do you think that many people who have taken loans become prosperous and prosperous? More likely to get out of credit bondage, they sigh with relief and swear never to get in again.
      But you can say goodbye to a loan by paying it off.

      Not a single enterprise (unless of course it is a small farm in some kind of Kukuyevo) is built on its own money. A loan is the basis. See if there are flourishing enterprises (in Russia or in the West) --- all of them took loans.
      Quote: olimpiada15
      What about investments? These are enterprises transferred to foreign ownership, the profits from which will be derived from the country.

      Stupidity, you do not understand the work of enterprises (more precisely, joint-stock companies).
      Of course, I will withdraw my profit, and why the heck I was investing, but the same Gazprom, due to my investments, will earn even more and will unfasten me a little bit.
      1. Ermak
        Ermak April 29 2016 10: 05
        +1
        atalef (8) IL Today, 09:16 PM
        Don’t ask, huge investments were also made in the development of minerals, oil, gas, potassium - huge investments from abroad.

        Explain what your word "Development" means - as I understand it, it means development, but not exploration, which is very expensive and takes a long time to pay off.
        As far as I know, 99% of the deposits in the Russian Federation are the result of exploration even under the USSR.

        Money from abroad was invested to drink from the already known (explored) place of the roof of our Russian land. Like bugs.
        Is this an investment ???
        1. atalef
          atalef April 29 2016 10: 17
          -1
          Quote: Ermak
          Explain what your word "Development" means - as I understand it, it means development, but not exploration, which is very expensive and takes a long time to pay off.

          What does it matter? The company (the same Gazprom) enters the foreign market to attract borrowings. By issuing shares or taking a loan. I am absolutely pleased that he will spend them - exploration, mining, or paying for cleaning bags.
          You have to understand one thing, I can’t invest money in an enterprise, if it doesn’t ask for it, and if it asks, then it needs money
          Quote: Ermak
          As far as I know, 99% of the deposits in the Russian Federation are the result of exploration even under the USSR.

          The piano does not play. without my investments (I exaggerate of course) - they would have remained explored, but not mastered
          Quote: Ermak
          Money from abroad was invested to drink from the already known (explored) place of the roof of our Russian land. Like bugs.

          Bullshit.
          Gazprom asked for the money, they gave it to him (by investments) --- and how he disposed of it is up to you.
          Ask why the state did not give this money to Gazprom, and he was forced to ask for it over the hill.
          Purely lumpen logic (you have) - you came to me, asked for money, I gave them to you and for that you called me a bloodsucker. laughing
          1. Ermak
            Ermak April 29 2016 10: 37
            +1

            atalef (8) IL Today, 10: 17 ↑ New
            What does it matter? The company (the same Gazprom) enters the foreign market to attract borrowings. By issuing shares or taking a loan. I am absolutely pleased that he will spend them - exploration, mining, or paying for cleaning bags.
            You have to understand one thing, I can’t invest money in an enterprise, if it doesn’t ask for it, and if it asks, then it needs money

            If, for example, I invest money in taking out and selling property, which I suddenly had access to, because it was lying badly, and besides, he also has an owner who is silent for some reason - is this an investment?
            The second example, I build an enterprise for the development and manufacture, I actively invest in the modernization of production, the construction of buildings and structures for example civilian purposes, even in the exploration of new deposits - this is closer to the truth and looks like a real investment.

            The question was just in
            Don’t ask, huge investments were also made in the development of minerals, oil, gas, potassium - huge investments from abroad.

            Conclusion:
            This is a lie, there was a banal export of natural resources and resources of the Russian Federation.

            Investment in assembly and shops was and is. But you must admit, as it is shallow.
            1. atalef
              atalef April 29 2016 10: 54
              +1
              Quote: Ermak
              If, for example, I invest money in taking out and selling property, which I suddenly had access to, because it was lying badly, and besides, he also has an owner who is silent for some reason - is this an investment?

              You generally describe it as some sort of sharashkin office. Do you understand what this is about?
              an example. Gazprom needs money, a decision is made on the board of directors to attract investments, the board of directors approves it, then the issue of where to get the money is being worked out (external or internal investment, i.e. from abroad or Russia)
              Further, Gazprom goes with an application to one of the exchanges (usually London 0) with a request to place shares or short-term bonds for a loan, which indicates --- loan amount, maturity, percentage on investment)
              Then, the securities commission (exchange) checks the solvency (this is generally the rating assigned to enterprises) and gives the go-ahead.
              Bonds begin to bargain, I buy - Gazprom receives the money he needs, I am waiting for dividends.
              And how can one get there by chance in this situation?
              By chance it is possible to squeeze out business in Russia, but accidentally invest. and even more so, to enter into the right of the owner --- NOT POSSIBLE,
              Quote: Ermak
              The second example, I build an enterprise for the development and manufacture, actively invest in the modernization of production, the construction of buildings and structures for example civilian purposes, even the exploration of new deposits - this is closer to the truth.

              Do not understand an example? Yes, do whatever you want, only return my investment with interest, or should I give my money?
              Quote: Ermak
              Conclusion:
              This lies, there was a banal export of natural wealth and resources of the Russian Federation.

              Bullshit, without my money there would be nothing to take out.
              Quote: Ermak
              Investment in assembly and shops was and is. But you must admit how shallow.

              Finely? Why shallow?
              I invest where profits await me.
              For example, Africa-Israel, which built a huge shopping center in Moscow, costs 500 million.
              Shares rose remarkably. Who is to blame for the fact that you (it was built for you) shopping centers bring more profit than factories? It is my problem ? No, you wanted, I gave money, you built FOR YOURSELF. I paid dividends --- everyone is happy.
              It is not necessary to blame the person for the problems and jambs. who gave you money for your projects. You wanted it - you got it. what is.
              If you ask me tomorrow for money to build a yacht and convince me that you will return with interest. I will give, and you will kill her when you are drunk. Will I be to blame too? Like I wouldn’t give money, there would be nothing to ruin.
              1. Ermak
                Ermak April 29 2016 11: 09
                0
                atalef (8) IL Today, 10: 54 ↑
                You generally describe it as some sort of sharashkin office. Do you understand what this is about?

                What are you, I just summarized, and you complicated, describing the process:
                Gazprom needs money, a decision is made on the board of directors .......... and gives the go-ahead.
                wink

                Do not understand an example? Yes, do whatever you want, only return my investment with interest, or should I give my money?

                The question is not the process, but the fact that from the point of view of the land owner it is a robbery, not an investment !!!

                Bullshit, without my money there would be nothing to take out.

                Do not tell, nobody except you wants to develop the explored deposits?

                Finely? Why shallow?
                I invest where profit awaits me ...........

                In this you are right.
                Here, I believe it is necessary for the state to slightly guide so that the usefulness is much greater and the investor is more pleasant. There are a lot of economic tools now.
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 29 2016 11: 30
                  -1
                  Quote: Ermak
                  What are you, I just summarized, and you complicated, describing the process:

                  You did not generalize, you presented the process as you would like to see it.
                  I wrote (greatly simplified) - as it really is

                  Quote: Ermak
                  The question is not the process, but the fact that from the point of view of the land owner it is a robbery, not an investment !!!

                  did not understand about the owners and robbery.
                  Claims to the one who takes the money (please) and how to deal with them, and not to the one who gives them.
                  Quote: Ermak
                  Do not tell, nobody except you wants to develop the explored deposits?

                  He wants to, but apparently there is no money for it. By the way, why don't you give it? And you manage the money in the country.
                  Quote: Ermak
                  Here, I believe it is necessary for the state to slightly guide so that the usefulness is much greater and the investor is more pleasant. There are a lot of economic tools now.

                  Now there are no economic instruments in the Russian Federation, as private investments do not fall under sanctions, and I (as an example) can personally safely invest money in any Russian company and whose loans are located both on the Russian Exchange and on Western exchanges.
                  Only sorry, not now. You have all the decisions on one person twisted and he thinks about anything, but not about investment attractiveness and the economy.
                  God was cute in time to withdraw money. Now I’d suck a paw, with gas pipelines of Gazprom - going nowhere.
                  "The head of Gazprom, Alexei Miller, believes that the gas giant he heads will become the world's largest joint-stock company within seven to eight years. By that time, Gazprom's capitalization will reach a trillion dollars against 360 billion at present." (RIA Novosti. June 10, 2008).

                  Seven years have passed. The cost of Gazprom is 44 billion. Capitalization in the last 5 years alone fell by 70%.
          2. Ermak
            Ermak April 29 2016 10: 51
            +1
            atalef (8) IL Today, 10: 17 ↑
            Purely lumpen logic (you have) - you came to me, asked for money, I gave them to you and for that you called me a bloodsucker. laughing

            I personally did not call you a bloodsucker.
            And I didn’t ask for money, and the people, too, but you yourself said that you invested.

            You probably thought by analogy - if Turkey is not ISIS, but invests money in ISIS, then who is she.
            1. atalef
              atalef April 29 2016 11: 15
              +1
              Quote: Ermak
              I personally did not call you a bloodsucker.

              Strange, I invested the same
              Quote: Ermak
              And I didn’t ask for money, and the people too,

              Yes, I would not give. But Gazprom asked (State Corporation for a minute) - he gave. And I do not regret
              Quote: Ermak
              You probably thought by analogy - if Turkey is not ISIS, but invests money in ISIS, then who is she.

              Leave your childish analogies for grandmothers on the bench.
              Speak seriously if you want serious answers.
      2. Ermak
        Ermak April 29 2016 10: 14
        +1
        atalef (8) IL Today, 09: 16 ↑
        Not a single enterprise (unless of course it is a small farm in some kind of Kukuyevo) is built on its own money. A loan is the basis. See if there are flourishing enterprises (in Russia or in the West) --- all of them took loans.


        Come on you. Loan loan is different. And in Russia it is bloodsuckers. Anyone you say is a prosperous enterprise in the Russian Federation as a cancer patient is outwardly normal, but the money is buried in debt, a step to the right, a step to the left it is not, and not from the fact that managers are fools.
        And what you called the basis is an excellent basis for usurers.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 29 2016 10: 59
          +1
          Quote: Ermak
          Come on you. Loan loan is different.

          Of course. Only decide whether or not to take it --- this is your decision
          Quote: Ermak
          And in Russia it is bloodsuckers. Anyone you say is a prosperous enterprise in the Russian Federation as a cancer patient is outwardly normal, but the money is buried in debt, a step to the right, a step to the left it is not, and not from the fact that managers are fools.

          Of course - thanks to the leadership of the state and stability
          Quote: Ermak
          And what you called the basis is an excellent basis for usurers.

          Tales do not sculpt.
          I myself have earned my money, unlike you (sitting in debt) ---- this is not about you and me personally, but for the concept.
          You came to me for money (which is the equivalent of my work) - why the hell should I give them to you at cost price 7
          You probably at the enterprise sell the same with a markup or at cost price?
          So why do you consider your revenue that you received after selling the wrapped goods to be not usury?
          Produce goods and sell at cost --- honestly? Or not ?
      3. alicante11
        alicante11 April 29 2016 13: 51
        +1
        Ratings are assigned based on the actual state of the economy


        Ratings are assigned on the basis of an order from the State Department.

        warns --- risky investments


        What is the risk of Russian investments? And I will tell you in what, in the sovereignty of the Russian economy. Because they began to spit on all sorts of the Hague courts and the Fashington sanctions. As a result, if necessary, any "investment" can be capitalized by Russian oligarchs. And this is scary for the West.
    2. atalef
      atalef April 29 2016 09: 16
      0
      Extension
      What is the problem ?
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The situation with the garbage rating of the Russian Federation is necessary and can be used to the benefit of the country, this is the best moment,
      to get rid of foreign and speculative dependence on our economy.

      Not understood ? 3 days ago I returned from the Russian Federation and I can honestly say (as it seemed to me) - if everything is fine with the products and the domestic manufacturer produces above the roof, then in the sense of industrial goods, electronics, etc. etc. --- Russian minuscule
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The country needs a bank, non-profit, and by the type of settlement center, which would bring together manufacturers

      Where did the money come from? In this bank
      Quote: olimpiada15
      What cannot be financed without a loan

      And how is it, to finance without a loan and why will I give my money (earned as a profit) to someone without interest? Sorry, but I’m better off putting my money into my development because no one has free working capital for such gifts
      Quote: olimpiada15
      But we can create a new sector of the economy that works for citizens of the country,

      Who are we ?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 29 2016 10: 03
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Who are we ?

        You are the Jews! laughing But essentially you're right!
        Shalom, Levoslav! drinks
        1. atalef
          atalef April 29 2016 10: 18
          -1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Shalom, Levoslav!

          Hello to you - faithful hi
      2. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 April 29 2016 12: 32
        +2
        Atalef "Who are we?" are ordinary citizens of the country.
        Those who do not get paid on time, which is very common in most campaigns. Including the salary periodically delayed and gas workers working on a rotational basis.
        I know the company, export-oriented, long-term contracts in $ and euro. Only low-grade products enter the domestic market. In connection with the change in the ruble exchange rate, it has become completely impoverished: salaries are being delayed, there is no money to buy raw materials.
        Employers take advantage of a lack of jobs and do not consider it necessary to adequately pay for labor.
        As a result, high-class specialists leave to work abroad, where their work will be adequately paid. Unlike Russian companies, for which staff salaries are a source of profit, and therefore you have to pay less and later.
        These are the realities.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 29 2016 13: 54
          0
          Quote: olimpiada15
          Atalef "Who are we?" - ordinary citizens of the country

          Nothing depends on you and you can’t do anything with anyone else.
          Quote: olimpiada15
          Those who do not get paid on time, which is very common in most campaigns. Including the salary periodically delayed and gas workers working on a rotational basis.
          I know the company, export-oriented, long-term contracts in $ and euro. Only low-grade products enter the domestic market. In connection with the change in the ruble exchange rate, it has become completely impoverished: salaries are being delayed, there is no money to buy raw materials.
          Employers take advantage of a lack of jobs and do not consider it necessary to adequately pay for labor.
          As a result, high-class specialists leave to work abroad, where their work will be adequately paid. Unlike Russian companies, for which staff salaries are a source of profit, and therefore you have to pay less and later.
          These are the realities.

          and how can you influence this?
          Except for the elections? But here nothing depends on you.
          Therefore, as in the old joke
          If rape is unavoidable. you need to relax and try to have fun

          hi
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 29 2016 10: 01
      +1
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The garbage rating from the mundi should be used to the benefit of the country's economy.

      But our government is trying by its actions to adjust the economy to a rating! laughing
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 April 29 2016 11: 39
        +2
        My comment is not for a citizen of a foreign power — from what I wrote, you won’t have anything.
        As for investments in Gazprom. Yes, the citizens of the country are indifferent to the interests of both this and other companies. As the gas drove past the village, except for the regional centers and some large cities, so it goes. And the increase in income of individuals in this company is completely indifferent to people.
        I don’t argue, big money was invested, only a significant part of these investments settled in foreign banks. What does the people have from the development of Gazprom? Constantly growing tariffs, plus a decrease in the volume of services provided. Previously, the subscriber was given instruction, preventive inspection of equipment and emergency dispatch services were provided. Now the population is forced to pay all this separately, moreover, twice as part of the common property and individually. Today, the population is forced to pay only for gas services of 4 organizations, and even a lot of scammers roam the public. Gazprom-profit; the population-tears. Some receive, others pay, and the further, the more, but the services from these requisitions only worsen.
        And the interests of investors do not coincide with the interests of citizens of the Russian Federation.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 29 2016 11: 57
          0
          Quote: olimpiada15
          My comment is not for a citizen of a foreign power - from what I wrote, you won’t have anything

          If you are about me, then I can disappoint you - my citizenship is no different from yours (more precisely, one of the citizenships ..)
          Quote: olimpiada15
          As for investments in Gazprom. Yes, the citizens of the country are indifferent to the interests of both this and other companies

          Sorry - this is one of the main fillers of the budget of the Russian Federation
          Quote: olimpiada15
          As the gas drove past the village, except for the regional centers and some large cities, so it goes. And the increase in income of individuals in this company is completely indifferent to people.

          Is it my fault too? As a bloodsucker investor

          Quote: olimpiada15
          I don’t argue, big money was invested, only a significant part of these investments settled in foreign banks.

          Investments cannot settle, and I described in detail why, the withdrawn OWN profit of Gazprom or anyone else can settle. Investments can come exclusively at the expense of the INVESTED enterprise, and then its combines are not responsible for what
          Quote: olimpiada15
          What does the people have from the development of Gazprom?

          Money to the budget
          Quote: olimpiada15
          Constantly growing tariffs, plus a decrease in the volume of services provided.

          Is it the same I'm to blame?
          Quote: olimpiada15
          Previously, the subscriber was given instruction, preventive inspection of equipment and emergency dispatch services were provided. Now the population is forced to pay all this separately, moreover, twice as part of the common property and individually

          Well, transfer the responsibility to the investor for checking the ventilation in any apartment
          Quote: olimpiada15
          Today, the population is forced to pay only for gas services of 4 organizations, and even a lot of scammers roam the public. Gazprom-profit; the population-tears.

          and the investor is to blame for all this.
          Strange logic. Although in general this is embedded in the general outline.
          The king is good - boyars are thieves.
          etc.
  • quote
    quote April 29 2016 09: 26
    +3
    Quote: Novel 11

    But is it really impossible to pass the law on abandoned lands? Let such arable land be transferred for indefinite use, provided that they are cultivated annually! A tax on them is charged purely nominally 1% !! This will increase productivity, and this will increase food safety, lower domestic prices and increase exports - all around are solid pluses! Land should benefit people and the state.

    As soon as banks begin to give preferential loans to agricultural enterprises, the problem will be solved. But another problem will arise. Overproduction (for today there is no planning). From here, storage and processing of agricultural products. Again appeal to the banks. Well, the bank wants a lot and quickly.
    Something in the work of the Central Bank does not bother you? Well, the Central Bank does not care about the problems of villages and their inhabitants.
  • Skubudu
    Skubudu April 29 2016 11: 15
    -1
    Russia occupies 1/9 of the entire land of the planet, we can afford to control it and protect it. The territory of Russia does not have US jurisdiction.
    Therefore, investing in Russia is safe and profitable.
    Not one FBI agent will come to a Russian bank and check my accounts.
    But he will easily go to any bank in Switzerland, Germany or Israel and seize any property account. Because these satellite countries do not have an independent foreign policy and are completely subordinate to US jurisdiction.
    This is very unacceptable for the US government, so the court rating agencies give out their low ratings for the Russian Federation. These ratings are pure politics.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 29 2016 11: 34
      +5
      Quote: Skubudu
      The territory of Russia does not have US jurisdiction.
      Therefore, invest your money in Russia safe and profitable.

      belay laughing

      Quote: Skubudu
      Not one FBI agent will come to a Russian bank and check my accounts.

      And you don’t have anything on them. And that which is worth at least 12 = 15% per year

      Quote: Skubudu
      But he will easily go to any bank in Switzerland, Germany or Israel and seize any property account

      Do not steal - do not arrest
      Quote: Skubudu
      This is very unacceptable for the US government, so the court rating agencies give out their low ratings for the Russian Federation. These ratings are pure politics.

      Well, of course, everything is fine in the Russian economy, and the rating is from the bulldozer.
      1. Skubudu
        Skubudu April 29 2016 14: 35
        -1
        Quote: Skubudu
        Not one FBI agent will come to a Russian bank and check my accounts.

        And you don’t have anything on them. And that which is worth at least 12 = 15% per year

        You don’t understand, you say that there is nothing, then you write what is but are depreciating ... you have already decided on your opinion.
        Russia, at least, is not threatened with destruction in the next 10-15 years, unlike the tiny patch of desert that you call Israel. Even for this indicator, it is safer to invest in Russia than Israel.
  • Million
    Million April 29 2016 12: 23
    +6
    Can anyone say: why did Putin seek the WTO? What did it give us positive?
    1. atalef
      atalef April 29 2016 12: 27
      +1
      Quote: Million
      Can anyone say: why did Putin seek the WTO? What did it give us positive?

      The World Trade Organization was established in 1994 and is the successor to the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), which, in turn, has existed since 1947. To date, the organization controls about 97% of world trade.

      Pros of Russia's WTO accession

      Improving the image of the country as an equal participant in world trade.
      Lower barriers to the international trading market.
      Free access to established international dispute resolution schemes in the field of trade (the WTO has a Dispute Resolution Commission).
      Wider opportunities for participation in the economies of WTO member countries for Russian investors.

      Increased competition in the financial sector. The result may be a decrease in lending rates for the population, as well as small and medium-sized enterprises.
      Modernization of the domestic economy in accordance with the requirements of the current stage of development of trade and economic relations. To enter the world market, many Russian manufacturers will have to pay special attention to the quality of their products in order to ensure their high competitiveness.

      Reduction of import duties on a number of goods (medicines, products, clothes, IT products, etc.). Consumers will benefit from this, but manufacturers may lose (see below).
      Reduced export duties. The advantages for enterprises operating in the raw materials segment are clearly visible here (see below for the disadvantages of this process).

      Transparency of trade laws of WTO members. It is, of course, always easier to build trade and economic relations with a clear understanding of the parties' positions and the absence of pitfalls.
      Supporting the country's trade and economic interests in the process of adopting new legislative acts in the field of international trade.

      Cons of Russia's WTO accession

      The threat of rising unemployment in the event that Russian enterprises can not stand the competition with foreign manufacturers. The situation in single-industry towns with a single city-forming enterprise can be especially aggravated.

      Reducing import duties may lead to the fact that a number of goods will become unprofitable to produce in Russia. The greatest risk exists for the agricultural sector of the economy (both crop production and animal husbandry).

      A reduction in import duties could negatively affect the domestic auto industry - the influx of used imported cars is a direct threat to Russian automakers. (Example: until recently, the customs duty for importing used cars was more than 40 thousand euros. After Russia joins the WTO, it will fall by more than 4 times.)

      Reduced export duties. From this process, the country's budget will be at a loss, which may lead to an increase in public debt.
      1. fif21
        fif21 April 29 2016 13: 09
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Reducing import duties may lead to the fact that a number of goods will become unprofitable to produce in Russia. The greatest risk exists for the agricultural sector of the economy (both plant growing and livestock breeding). Reducing import duties can negatively affect the domestic auto industry - the influx of used imported cars is a direct threat to Russian automakers. (Example: until recently, the customs duty for importing used cars was more than 40 thousand euros. After Russia joins the WTO, it will fall by more than 4 times.) Reduction in export duties. From this process, the country's budget will be at a loss, which may lead to an increase in public debt

        Where did you study? negative Horror stories to paint!
      2. fif21
        fif21 April 29 2016 13: 09
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Reducing import duties may lead to the fact that a number of goods will become unprofitable to produce in Russia. The greatest risk exists for the agricultural sector of the economy (both plant growing and livestock breeding). Reducing import duties can negatively affect the domestic auto industry - the influx of used imported cars is a direct threat to Russian automakers. (Example: until recently, the customs duty for importing used cars was more than 40 thousand euros. After Russia joins the WTO, it will fall by more than 4 times.) Reduction in export duties. From this process, the country's budget will be at a loss, which may lead to an increase in public debt

        Where did you study? negative Horror stories to paint!
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  • Mentat
    Mentat April 29 2016 12: 50
    0
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    if the economy itself (with the exception of the military industry where the "entrance" is now closed to foreigners) is really "bursting at the seams"

    But here about seam cracking can be more? With examples.
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  • fif21
    fif21 April 29 2016 13: 02
    0
    Ivan Pobeda and Ivanushka (fairy-tale hero) brothers. laughing Agency rating - rating of investment attractiveness for investors (invested, welded, taken away) - speculators, (invested and shear babosy) - serious people. For them, Russia has become not very attractive. request They need jumps and falls, or stable growth in the economy. The foreign exchange market, the ruble, is not supported by gold, and the ruble exchange rate is more or less stable. The stock market is again a bummer, dividends may or may not (even if there is profit). Investing in a company, how much do not invest, and you will not get a controlling stake, whether the gain is very small or not. And why are we making noise? We will attract our investors, otherwise some have enough intelligence, just hide the lard of greenery in the corners, or take it offshore. I'm not even talking about how much budget funds are being plundered, the Vostochny cosmodrome is still in flower.
  • user3970
    user3970 April 29 2016 14: 52
    0
    I'll start with an old joke ... Winter ... Severe frost. A sparrow flew out from under the roof into the fresh air and fell onto the ground with a frozen ice. But lucky. I fell into a fresh dung pile left over from a cow herd passing by. He warmed up, came to his senses and cried out with joy. A hungry cat ran past. I heard a sparrow and gobbled up. Conclusion: if you get caught and sit in shit, then sit and don’t tweet. Does it resemble the situation with the Russian economy? I grew up in the USSR. I remember milk and kefir in glass bottles. To pour and drink it was necessary to pierce with a spoon the layer of cream that formed during transportation from the factory to the store. I remember sausage from meat. And wheat bread. And despite the fact that then we were 300 million. and we still fed the whole world, we did not know diesel palm oil and other substitutes. And whose litter was the minister with a gynecologist, Putin, Medvedev, that she was forgiven for theft of 30 billion rubles? But what Putin doesn’t know that the current minister with weavers is a friend and accomplice of tsapoks and is Europe’s largest latifundist (landowner)? Or shared and paid the appointment? Why does the Belarusian collective farm chairman Lukashenko need three kopecks to connect to a gas pipe in the village, and in Russia, 300 rubles? Why, after the national catastrophe in Japan with Fokusima, the credit rate there is no more than 000%, and we don’t seem to have a war, and loans are issued at 5% and more and microfinance and collectors are allowed. My opinion: Putin and his gang fulfill the order of Allen Dallas, reducing the population of Russia to 20 million people needed to service the pipe.
  • user3970
    user3970 April 29 2016 15: 29
    0
    And where did I go?