The Soyuz-2.1 launch vehicle successfully launched from the new Russian Vostochny spaceport (video)

The first video of the launch of the Soyuz-2.1 launch vehicle with three space vehicles from the new Russian Vostochny cosmodrome appeared. Recall that the launch was scheduled for about 5: 00 (MSK) 27 April, but the experts decided to postpone the first start. As a result, the rocket launched in 5: 10 (5: 01) (MSK) 28 April. The video is published on YouTube by Alexander Evgenievich Loginov:

The site "Roskosmos" The training of the launch vehicle for the launch and the launch itself was broadcast.

The final launch decision was made about 4 hours before launch. From the Roscosmos tweet:

The State Commission made a decision on the possibility of launching the Soyuz-2.1 PH from the #Nostochnyi 28 cosmodrome on April at 5: 01 Moscow time.

After 4 hours, a message about successful start appeared:

The first civilian launch site of Russia, the Vostochny launch site, has been launched for the first time. The launch vehicle "Soyuz-2.1a" started successfully!

Other videos of the first launch from a new Russian cosmodrome (there is a survey made by residents of the city of Svobodny):

It is expected that approximately in 7: 06 there will be a disconnection of the upper stage and the spacecraft.

Comments

[rafaelich]

Well, nice! ..

[Portolan]

after a minute the first step fell off somewhere.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Yes, take with RT, normal video:

[godofwar6699]

I congratulate you

[Thrall]

So, Obama, Russia is tearing itself to shreds

[cniza]

Quote: Thrall

So, Obama, Russia is tearing itself to shreds

Incredibly, Russia did it. They steal a lot - yes, there is enough scum - yes, but much has been done and there is something to be proud of.

[Mahmut]

Let those who put their hands and knowledge to this start be proud. Well, the rest will experience a feeling of deep satisfaction.

[Samaritan]

Congratulations to all involved !!! Today's a glass! probably to finish building the spaceport for another year!

We have mastered global construction projects like nuts !!!

[Winter cherry]

There is still an airdrome under construction

[Red_Hamer]

Congratulations to all involved !!! Today's a glass! probably to finish building the spaceport for another year!

2 more launch, for heavy and super-heavy missiles. A lot of work, not for one year. But the sight was awesome , I watched myself, live!

[Kasym]

Congratulations to all Russians on the Great Event! Good luck and success to the East! With such an infrastructure as that of the Russian Federation (Plesetsk, Baikonur, Vostochny with all test sites and rocket launchers, Zvezdny and other research institutes and design bureaus), it is useless to compete in the foreseeable future. And no matter how the West and the PRC are brave, but here there are no options - the market for commercial launches (we must still tighten the production of satellites) will be with Russia! With what I want you (and us) Congratulate!

[tilovaykrisa]

Baikonur will still be rented and used for 5-10 years; it is still 6 degrees closer to the equator.

[Blondy]

Guys, I bastard with our media, As Komersnt and NTV reported, after the launch, Putin reprimanded Rogzin for the cause of the failure, vice-prime minister), severe reprimand to Komarov (head of Roscosmos) and incomplete official compliance with Shalimov (general director of NPO Avtomatika) for the shitty cable, because of which There has been a breakdown. I watch Vesti24: there they broadcast that Putin has given a severe reprimand to Komarov - about the rest of the "hitmen" under the distribution of silence, as if they were not there. How do you like this kind of channeled censorship?

[str73]

Well, this is a reason liberalsne already rejoice. After a successful launch, they were depressed, and here it is ... Putin reprimanded ... And the media hid about Rogozin ... censorship .... Hurray ... Russia is still somehow backward - totalitarian, etc. etc. Fuck you! In vain rejoice, it's all the little things. They will not distract attention from the main event !!!

[SveTok]

It would be right for the President to encourage or punish the Prime Minister on the actual state of the economy and the pension system, and not switchmen.

[ilyinval61]

Let those who foretold the collapse, gloated over the emerging problems and simply sabotage of the stealing bastards feel deeply disappointed.

[Azitral]

On large projects, they steal ALWAYS and everywhere. In the United States, the "construction business" (construction) business is considered as lucrative and almost as criminal as drug trafficking. Unfortunately, this is most likely insurmountable to the end; one can only work tirelessly at all levels to strive to minimize theft. The Fed will print more money, but Sochi (visit, I heartily recommend), Vladivostok and Vostochny - will remain. Bought is acquired, and what is expensive is not so ruined. And - not so expensively purchased, at world prices. The main thing is to fly, and if space production is tightened up, it will be very good. And it is impossible to overcome corruption once and for all, just as it is impossible to eat or wash up forever.

[NordUral]

It can and should be minimized.

[Rostov Papa]

Great news, I was very pleased that they launched on the basis of technical readiness and not by the appointed date.

Add for good mood a little from the section "I read and cried"

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Rostov Dad

Great news, I was very pleased that they launched on the basis of technical readiness and not by the appointed date.

But is it not the 1-e May on everyone’s nose, and then the 9-e May? An old tradition from the USSR is to launch on the eve of the Great Holidays.

[nikon7717]

Do not guess.
On April 28 1955, large-scale construction work began on the territory of the future Baikonur Cosmodrome.
The rocket simply did not want to fly a day earlier.
The circle is closed.
I got a good date. And flew !!!

On April 28, military builders, having waited until the ground thawed, poured the first cubic meter of concrete into the base of the first object of the future Baikonur Cosmodrome - the highway connecting the first buildings and the launch pad

[Cherdak]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: Rostov Dad

Great news, I was very pleased that they launched on the basis of technical readiness and not by the appointed date.

But is it not the 1-e May on everyone’s nose, and then the 9-e May? An old tradition from the USSR is to launch on the eve of the Great Holidays.

In-in, just a gift for the New Year!

[str73]

Oh yes yes to hell knows what anniversary on May 1, probably this timed launch :)

[Cat man null]

Quote: NordUral

It can and should be minimized

“You know exactly how?” They themselves would be able to, so that with a guarantee?
- executions-confiscations and landing-confiscations - do not offer:
- the first is successful does not work in China
- the second is just as successful does not work in the USA and others.
- a return to socialism - also not to offer, in the current conditions this is no more real than a visit of the Anunahs from Nibiru ..

So?

[Orionvit]

Do not say it is very eradicated. They steal immensely from impunity. Under Joseph Vissarionovich, they gave a tower for a stolen penny, And for a bad cable, just to Kolyma, without reprimand. And the order was, and the war was won.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Al1977

And build a concrete site

as well as the entire infrastructure.

[ochakow703]

Not smart you, and angry. Who offended, or in life is r ...?

[Tatar 174]

This long-awaited event is even somewhat akin to the first human flight into space, definitely a holiday today! Hooray!!!

[gray smeet]

There is an interesting article explaining why this place was chosen for the Russian cosmodrome, I give the link:


http://lozga.livejournal.com/111549.html


Congratulations to all on this momentous event! Now begins a new page in the history of space exploration!

[aniza]

Thanks for the link! I discovered a lot of new things for myself. Thank you from the heart !!!

[fantast]

Added your video to the article

[Cherdak]

Quote: fantast

Added your video to the article

And don’t forget it! For the future

[PKK]

Rocketeers and industry did a good job. Well done! Proud of you guys!

[Koshak]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Yes, take with RT, normal video

So it is here. The very first.

[BilliBoms09]

Soyuz-2.1a launch vehicle successfully launched from the new Russian Vostochny cosmodrome

This is the answer to everyone who howls that Russia has disappeared, that everything is bad. I drove off the shift listening to the radio, there is a poll about the launch from the new cosmodrome, so people on the air almost cried with pride for their country. These are the events, I hope, will return the children to the fact that they will again want to become astronauts, and not managers and deputies !!!

[PKK]

To Sergey Pavlovich Korolev, eternal thanks and Eternal Memory, from us!

[Lukich]

Quote: Portolan

after a minute the first step fell off somewhere.

at 120 seconds it SEPARATES, does not fall off, 1 step. these are 4 lateral booster blocks. falls off from a poor master in his poor household

[Chills]

This is true! Nothing falls off of our rockets, this rocket discards that. what she thought was superfluous (in the original about AvtoVAZ).

[Dart2027]

Just a person does not know what the first step is.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Portolan

after a minute the first step fell off somewhere.

There is a first start from the East !!!
A Soyuz-2.1a carrier rocket with three spacecraft - Lomonosov, Aist-2D and SamSat-218 - successfully launched from the new Russian Vostochny cosmodrome. The representative of Roscosmos stressed: "The launch of the carrier rocket was successful." The launch was overseen by Russian President Vladimir Putin. As reported, the initial launch of the Soyuz-2.1a was supposed to be carried out in the morning of April 27, but the automation canceled the launch.

In accordance with the flight cyclogram, two minutes after the launch, the first stage separated from the rocket, and after another two - the head fairing, TASS reports. At the end of the fifth minute of the flight, the second stage separated. The separated blocks of the first stage fell in the Amur region, the head fairing and the second stage - in Yakutia. After 8 minutes and 48 seconds of flight, a bundle of the Volga upper stage and satellites separated from the third stage of the carrier

The engines of the Volga upper stage will send spacecraft into a circular orbit with the help of two switches. At 07:07 the satellites will separate from the upper stage, after which they will be taken over by ground services.

[Oleg Monarchist]

Quote: Portolan after a minute the first step fell off somewhere.

In fact, it did not "fall off", but separated. Are you just stating a fact, or are you outraged by something?

[I am human]

you will ride and maidan and all of you will soon have a hanging end

[smart Fox]

What was she supposed to do?

[INVESTOR]

Beautifully went !!! Go!!!

[Lieutenant colonel]

GONE, GONE - Karl !!!! STEPS DEPARTURE !!!!! A pimple falls off.

[siberalt]

Well done Putin! I personally controlled that the rocket flew in!

[Dembel77]

Cosmodrome "Vostochny" !!!! Go!!! Hooray!!!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Dembel 77

Cosmodrome "Vostochny" !!!! Go!!! Hooray!!!

Congratulations. Undoubted success.

[atalef]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Dembel 77

Cosmodrome "Vostochny" !!!! Go!!! Hooray!!!

Congratulations. Undoubted success.

I join in the congratulation!

[Suhov]

Quote: siberalt

Well done Putin! I personally controlled that the rocket flew in!

They say that a criminal case was instituted on this rocket, so it’s flew awayaway from sin.

In general, the feelings are contradictory,
on the one hand, why rejoice at just repeating what they did in the Union more than 50 years ago?
on the other hand, there is something to be happy about, because after those dashing 90s they still managed to "repeat" it.

[Sid.74]

Three satellites launched from Vostochny are launched into target orbit! Well, with the initiative ...

[Amurets]

Well, if we assume that in this area the area was a military spaceport Svobodny, then this is the sixth launch from this area. http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/28568

[Orionvit]

There are more and more successful launches. One thing is somehow not clear. What does "civilian cosmodrome" mean? Is it like an IL-76 painted in the colors of Aeroflot? Civilian space has always been second priority. And navigation and communication, and meteorological, and other satellites, first of all, have always been military, and already as they were called, this is another matter.

[Lukich]

Quote: Orionvit

Civil space has always been in the second place. And navigation and communication, and meteo, and other satellites, in the first place have always been military, and as they were called, this is another matter.

there were such communication satellites "Lightning" in them 97% of the channels belonged to the military. when they stood in the MIC, civilians were not allowed there

[Muvka]

Quote: Sukhov

Quote: siberalt

Well done Putin! I personally controlled that the rocket flew in!

They say that a criminal case was instituted on this rocket, so it’s flew awayaway from sin.

In general, the feelings are contradictory,
on the one hand, why rejoice at just repeating what they did in the Union more than 50 years ago?
on the other hand, there is something to be happy about, because after those dashing 90s they still managed to "repeat" it.

But is it nothing that this spaceport is foolish in comparing technological innovations with those that were in the 50s? Well, tell me, what should the cosmodrome look like to satisfy you? What should he be able to do to be different from the old?

[Corsair]

Quote: Muvka

But is it nothing that this spaceport is foolish in comparing technological innovations with those that were in the 50s? Well, tell me, what should the cosmodrome look like to satisfy you? What should he be able to do to be different from the old?

Well, there are all kinds of Enterprise to run and accept, or Normandy type

[Manul]

Quote: Muvka

But is it nothing that this spaceport is foolish in comparing technological innovations with those that were in the 50s? Well, tell me, what should the cosmodrome look like to satisfy you? What should he be able to do to be different from the old?

And also the person forgets that we had a spaceport, and would have developed and not gone anywhere, had it remained on our territory. Built by COSMODROM, but to Comrade Sukhov it seems that this is a repetition ... Yes, God forbid, so "repeat" more often .. Never mind, soon we will "repeat" the Vladivostok bridge across the Kerch Strait .
Hooray, friends! The soul is an incredible holiday !!! I am proud of the country! Thanks to all the builders, managers, and everyone who believed and supported!

[Suhov]

Quote: Manul

And also the person forgets that we had a spaceport, and would have developed and not gone anywhere, had it remained on our territory.

The spaceport was and was gone.

Quote: Manul

Built by COSMODROM, but to Comrade Sukhov it seems that this is a repetition

I had to build again.
Is this not a repetition: to build what was already?

Why is it sad?
Baikonur is still herebut he is no longer ours.
А Construction of the cosmodrome Vostochny had to spend a lot of money.

[Suhov]

Quote: Manul

Never mind, soon we will "repeat" the Vladivostok bridge across the Kerch Strait

RepeatThere is no doubt about that.
But, feel the difference:
Oriental instead Baikonur, or
bridge in Vladivostok и in addition to it the Kerch bridge.
both there and there are considerable expenses,
but in the first case, these costs the number of starts - will not increase,
while in the second case, the volume of transported goods will be increased.

[Manul]

Quote: Sukhov

Again, there is no doubt about that.
But, feel the difference:
East instead of Baikonur, or
bridge in Vladivostok and in addition to it the Kerch bridge.
both there and there are considerable expenses,
but in the first case, these costs the number of starts - will not increase,
while in the second case, the volume of transported goods will be increased.

That is, if the USSR had not been destroyed? So talk about it, dear, if it gnaws at you so much that you cannot rejoice at the "momentary" successes. And not about the East.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Sukhov

In general, the feelings are contradictory,
on the one hand, why rejoice at just repeating what they did in the Union more than 50 years ago?
on the other hand, there is something to be happy about, because after those dashing 90s they still managed to "repeat" it.

Yes, it seems like repetition, but not quite. There was a repeat on a new level!
Not just a spaceport was built, but all the infrastructure necessary for the preparation and launch of missiles, a control and escort point. And what about the new missile preparation system for launch?
Here and established communication with the current MCC!
And the construction of a new space launch on the other side of the country,
what is said "beyond the distant lands" is a lot, it costs a lot!

[Koshak]

Quote: Sukhov

In general, the feelings are contradictory,
on the one hand, why rejoice at just repeating what they did in the Union more than 50 years ago?
on the other hand, there is something to be happy about, because after those dashing 90s they still managed to "repeat" it.

Well, if you talk like that, then why rejoice that they created the PAK FA T-50 - they simply repeated Po-2.

[Lukich]

Quote: Koshak

Well, if you talk like that, then why rejoice that they created the PAK FA T-50 - they simply repeated Po-2.

Do not say that. Descendants of the Wright brothers will sue. and even Daedalus with Icarus

[viktor1979]

Well, at least they could launch it, it is also a success, if we compare it with what level of corruption and what kind of mess. Yes and Far East will give impetus to development.

[bandabas]

The sadness is that where there is no control of GDP, a complete mess continues.

[jjj]

Do not be sad. It should not be thought that the president’s working schedule did not provide for a second day at the cosmodrome

[bandabas]

And I'm not sad. The stupid word "sadness", I wrote it automatically. It would be more correct to do so. Remember the phrase Luzgi from the movie "Cold Summer of XNUMX"? - "People, especially now, cannot be trusted. People, Shura, are so ... evil!"

[SPQR1977]

Unfortunately, GDP is also not eternal ... And what will happen after it? (

[siberalt]

It turns out strange. Minusovskih darkness, but mortally afraid to object in words Well, and who does not agree that one of the tasks Putin had was personal control over the start? Then look at his statements on this subject.

[Manul]

Quote: siberalt

It turns out strange. The minus members are dark, but they are mortally afraid to object in words Well, and who does not agree that one of the tasks of Putin was to personally control the start? Then look at his statements on this subject.

No one doubts. The minuses flew over the scuffle when people were jubilant. There will still be enough articles on this subject, there studs will be more or less appropriate.

[vkl.47]

The GDP launched it with his own eyes. It was worth only hinting that something you guys were frequent with breakdowns. And as with the wave of a magic wand, everything went up into the orbit of the earth

[Seaman77]

Soyuz-2.1a launch vehicle

С new cosmodrome would be nice new rocket- Angara.

[Lukich]

Quote: Seaman77

From the new cosmodrome, a new rocket, the Angara, would be nice.

under it and make a second start. and while the Union flies, the first start to him

[Andrey77]

While there is no platform for the Angara. They just had time to build under the Union.

[siberalt]

In our time, we rejoiced at the launch of the world's first satellite, the first space passengers - dogs and the world's first cosmonaut. All this was done in a little over three years (October 1957 - April 1961). Now we rejoice that the rocket flew to space from the only site, which was built for 9 years. There is no irony or malevolence here. What power have we lost? The scale is simply not comparable. But at the same time we persistently climb into liberoids. And for the first launch from the "Vostochny" royumashka must be knocked over.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: siberalt

Now we rejoice that the rocket flew to space from the only site that had been built for 9 years.

You have mixed up something, so you have such pessimism.
The construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome began in July 2012. It turns out that it took less than 4 years to build.

[Suhov]

Quote: Алексей_К

The construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome began in July 2012. It turns out that it took less than 4 years to build.

The first stone was laid, sort of like the 2010th year ...
They just showed it on TV.

[dogens]

Quote: rafaelich

Well, nice! ..

In Ukraine, a three-day mourning.

[Michael67]

Country!
Congratulations on launching a new cosmodrome!
I congratulate everyone who participates, all builders, all scientists! (except thieves).
A new step has been taken in our great history!

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: rafaelich

Well, nice! ..

How could it be, after all, everyone was looted and sawed there, this is an insinuation, shot on Mosfilm.

[Werterex]

Dashing nachapo trouble !!! Congratulations, comrades! We have a new Stalin))))

[Kunar]

Rogozin, it seems, the first .....

[Katman]

President: Congratulations to Roskosmos, and then "to all the sisters by earrings" (ie by reprimand). So far, only three have been voiced, especially "distinguished". Super! Although it is quite possible in the case. Too many hats flew: yes we, yes we ... Maybe he himself threw into space with his insane power? It's a joke, of course.

[Dmitry Potapov]

Beautifully went! Hooray! Here it is the latest history of Russia! Au Albright, we also have a spaceport!

[SuperFly]

He was always in Plesetsk

[inkass_98]

Yeah, military man. Remember Kapustin Yar. Vostochny!, Like Baikonur, will be used for manned launches.
Although it’s too early to rejoice - there will be no more launches this year, there will be a couple next year, five or six will take place in 2018 ... It will not be enough!

[Res_Ullus]

Down and Out trouble started. Break through

[Azitral]

A wonderful, purely Russian word "break through". A purely national spell that almost always works if pronounced by a quality person. And, can you ask a question? You have the chromosomal formula of Kleinfelter syndrome on your icon. Is this a hint of something or pure water joke? Indeed, it's funny.

[sub307]

Baikonur Russia leases from Kazakhstan until 2050. Due to the commissioning and further development of the Vostochny spaceport, Russia may refuse to continue leasing.

[Lukich]

Quote: sub307

Baikonur Russia leases from Kazakhstan until 2050. Due to the commissioning and further development of the Vostochny spaceport, Russia may refuse to continue leasing.

Yes, there’s a trick in that we paid separately for each start. Now we will pay less

[Andrey77]

It's all about politics. Now we have our own "civilian" cosmodrome, and if anything we can do without Baikonur. But Kazakhstan does not have its own space, so it will lease it. Who?

[Lukich]

Quote: Andrey77

But Kazakhstan does not have its own space, which means it will be leased. To whom?

he will not surrender to anyone. Launch under our rocket carrier made. others do not. but now we can significantly reduce the rent

[Andrey77]

Under another rocket - a month of redoing a maximum. Starting table. All.

[Lukich]

Quote: Andrey77

Under another rocket - a month of redoing a maximum. Starting table. All.

as everybody????? and infrastructure ??? do you think the launch site is just a launch pad ???? yeahhhh, deep knowledge ....

[Andrey77]

The spaceport is a launch pad, first of all. More precisely, a geographical point.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Lukich

he will not surrender to anyone. Launch under our rocket carrier made.

No one may need a start, but the Americans can convince Nazarbayev, if he takes offense at Russia, to build a military missile base in Baikonur. A huge area poisoned by spilled kerosene during disasters. Degassing is not possible. So the Americans will test their poisonous missiles on our southern borders. The base must be guarded, so there will be quick reaction troops. And in the Caspian Sea, their destroyers will soon appear with the Tomahawks and the Aegis system on board. Joy for Russia is not enough.

[SPQR1977]

I wonder how they will enter the Caspian?)) By air?))

[siberalt]

What should American destroyers do in a strange lake? There is no hide or escape!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: siberalt

What should American destroyers do in a strange lake? There is no hide or escape!

You might think that our ships have a place to hide. And then this your disrespectful attitude towards the Caspian (called the lake) suggests that you simply do not know that Azerbaijan also owns part of the Caspian, and Azerbaijan is very friendly with the Americans. And if Kazakhstan is added, then our ships will have to snuggle up to our shores. Amerikosy will swim in the territorial waters of these countries and spit on us. God forbid, if even the submarine fleet (diesel) will lead and mine most of the Caspian.
Enemies can not be underestimated or are you a supporter of the Americans?

[Lukich]

Quote: Алексей_К

that Azerbaijan also owns part of the Caspian, and

and they are on hand, or drag the destroyers to the Caspian dragging ???? horror.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Алексей_К

Your disrespectful attitude to the Caspian (called the lake) suggests that you simply do not know that Azerbaijan also owns part of the Caspian

- The Caspian is still a lake. The sea, by definition, is the part of the ocean that has access to this very ocean. The Caspian has no such outlet. He is called the sea only because of its size.

Vika to help you, dear

And, yes - the destroyer in the Caspian is like an AUG in the Black Sea. Dolce and Gabbana Expensive and Stupid .. and the sense of it there - well, just no .. MRCs rule there, these are approximately:

[Achilles]

You might think that our ships have a place to hide. And then this your disrespectful attitude towards the Caspian (called the lake) suggests that you simply do not know that Azerbaijan also owns part of the Caspian, and Azerbaijan is very friendly with the Americans. And if Kazakhstan is added, then our ships will have to snuggle up to our shores. Amerikosy will swim in the territorial waters of these countries and spit on us.

Dear, I repeat once again which American ship cannot be in the Caspian, in principle, this requires the permission of all the states that come into contact with the Caspian Sea, one or two states, even if they want to launch the American ship they will not succeed.

At the summit “in Astrakhan, the heads of the five Caspian littoral states decided“ on the non-presence of armed forces on the Caspian Sea that do not belong to the parties ”
During the summit, the leaders of Russia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan agreed on respect for the sovereignty, territorial integrity, independence, sovereign equality of states, non-use of force or the threat of force, mutual respect, cooperation, non-interference in each other’s internal affairs. As a result of the summit, a 19-point document speaks of the parties' right to extract aquatic biological resources within 25 nautical miles of their coastal space.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: SPQR1977

I wonder how they will enter the Caspian?)) By air?))

Minus guessed how to put? And you can’t guess how to build a ship on the shores of the Caspian! Built a shipyard and build ships.

[Lukich]

Quote: Алексей_К

Minus guessed how to put? And you can’t guess how to build a ship on the shores of the Caspian! Built a shipyard and build ships.

here turn on your head !!!!! what are you going to build all this from ????????? yes you will have diamond destroyers !!!!!!! and for what??????

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Lukich

here turn on your head !!!!! what are you going to build all this from ????????? yes you will have diamond destroyers !!!!!!! and for what??????

Will you insult further? This is when the opponent has no words, but only fists, and there is no way to apply them, and you want to prove a lie, then insults are used.
Both Iran and Azerbaijan are building their ships and boats in the Caspian. And they’re nothing diamond. Who is stopping America from building its ships in Azerbaijan from Azerbaijani materials? Yes, no one bothers, these countries are on friendly terms.
And for what? Really hard to guess - a confrontation with Russia. Tomahawks are mostly sea-based or on airplanes. Terrestrial Tomahawks are very few. Any missile boat or destroyer, as well as a submarine, carry orders of magnitude more Tomahawk missiles than an airplane. In addition, the US influence of the US Navy in the Caspian Sea can have a strong influence on other pro-Caspian countries. And from the water area of ​​Kazakhstan, the Tomahawks will reach the northernmost borders of Russia, as well as to the central part of Siberia, which is now out of reach for the Tomahawks.

[Cat man null]

Aleksey_Klet's try to think. If possible - calmly, huh?

Quote: Алексей_К

Azerbaijan is very friendly with Americans

- did someone deceive you, or you confused Azerbaijan with Georgia. Azerbaijan is trying to accurately "equidistant" from three "big uncles": China, Russia, USA
- if you have any other information - please provide it here. With reference to the source

Quote: Алексей_К

Who is stopping America from building its ships in Azerbaijan from Azerbaijani materials? Yes, no one bothers, these countries are on friendly terms

- I have big doubts that Azerbaijan would be very enthusiastic about such (purely hypothetical so far. This is only in your head such an idea, huh?) US proposal ..
- The Russian Federation would certainly not stand aside. And the Caspian flotilla of the Russian Federation is the strongest connection in the Caspian, not to mention the fact that the Russian Federation itself (with everything that it has) is here, right next ..

Quote: Алексей_К

Any missile boat or destroyer, as well as a submarine, several orders of magnitude more carries Tomahawk missiles than a plane

- So. Let's say the plane carries only one Tomahawk
- "any" boat carries a few .. well, maybe two .. orders more ..
- Alexey, you are an engineer, all the same ..

Quote: Алексей_К

from the waters of Kazakhstan, the Tomahawks will reach the northernmost borders of Russia, as well as to the central part of Siberia, which is now out of reach for the Tomahawks

- and on what, sorry, gobbled to shoot a subsonic Tomahawk across the entire territory of the Russian Federation (where air defense "gav to catch" will not be, and almost certainly it .. that ..) when the sea is walking in the northern seas .. ships with the same Tomahawks?

In short: Your idea seems to me personally:

- funny in a good sense of the word
- theoretically feasible, albeit with great difficulty
- completely useless

Dixi

[str73]

I think at the moment the influence of Russia will not allow the Americans to build ships in Azerbaijan. This was clearly shown in the Karabakh conflict - at the moment the conflicting parties were lit in the corners, like a referee in a boxing match. Well, in the future, of course, who knows? ...

[Lukich]

Quote: Алексей_К

but the Americans can convince Nazarbayev, if he takes offense at Russia, to build a military missile base in Baikonur.

so they can convince him and build in another place, next. but he didn’t aim our missiles at his territory.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Lukich

but he didn’t aim our missiles at his territory.

You write the sentence correctly in Russian and I will answer you, otherwise I didn’t understand anything from this sentence of yours, especially - who is HE ... TO GO OUR ROCKETS.

[Lukich]

Quote: Алексей_К

who is HE ... OUR ROCKETS TO AIM.

the surname is the same there and it wasn’t written by me. but I missed the word. in relation to him

[Cat man null]

Quote: Алексей_К

... the Americans can convince Nazarbayev ... to build a military missile base in Baikonur ... That's will the Americans at our southern borders test their poisonous missiles

- and the Kazakhs will somehow be delighted .. along with the rest of the Kazakhstanis ..

Quote: Алексей_К

A huge poisoned ... territory. Degassing impossible

- you are probably confused with the Semipalatinsk test site ..

Quote: Алексей_К

And in the Caspian Sea, their destroyers will soon appear with the Tomahawks and the Aegis system on board

- sail along the Volga only if

Quote: Алексей_К

Huge poison spilled kerosene in case of disasters

- they’ll get drunk .. with kerosene, and they start to post faky fucking

Aleksey_Kwrite ischo (s)

[Achilles]

And in the Caspian Sea, their destroyers will soon appear with the Tomahawks and the Aegis system on board. Joy for Russia is not enough.

You probably don’t know that a ship that doesn’t belong to one of the countries whose coast directly touches the Caspian Sea appears, you need permission from all states, so the American ship will not appear there

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Lukich

we can now significantly reduce rent

And then do not pay! It's my pleasure!

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Andrey77

then it will be leased. To whom?

To whom? What is India, what is China, what Brazil has the opportunity to build closer to the equator. And other countries find it easier to buy a start than to do it yourself. It is expensive to maintain this and is not easy in technical terms

[user1212]

Quote: Lukich

Yes, there’s a trick in that we paid separately for each start. Now we will pay less

Nooo. You are very simplified. They paid for the cosmodrome, paid for the falling areas, so that the Kazakhs didn’t close the cosmodrome, paid for Nazarbayev’s mood. And for all this, Russia was billed separately

[Lukich]

Quote: user1212

Nooo. You are very simplified. They paid for the cosmodrome, paid for the falling areas, so that the Kazakhs didn’t close the cosmodrome, paid for Nazarbayev’s mood. And for all this, Russia was billed separately

and what have I simplified? there will be fewer launches, we will pay less. for each start a separate fee goes. rent we paid only for land

[Winter cherry]

From Baikonur plan commercial flights with foreigners, and from the East their own and military

[Saratoga833]

[quote = Lukich] we paid separately for each start [/ quote
In my opinion, we don’t need to pay for any start from Baikonur! After all, not the Kazakhs built Baikonur! And to receive money for something that at least bestiality did not build! The Kazakhs did not very long ago decide that Russia pays them a little for the cosmodrome that they did not make! After Russia announced the construction of the Vostochny, Kazakhs' appetites greatly decreased!

[Lukich]

Quote: Saratoga833

In my opinion, we don’t need to pay for any start from Baikonur! After all, not the Kazakhs built Baikonur!

an agreement is an agreement. it was necessary to think when they signed. yes, what a long way to go when troops were withdrawn from the GDR and placed in an open field. although the Germans were ready to build military camps. but it .... didn’t even hint at compensation

[Andrey77]

I think we will not refuse. For political reasons, Kazakhstan is a friendly state.

[SPQR1977]

not so long ago and the outskirts were friendly ...

[sub307]

The full launch video is at http://www.popmech.ru/technologies/238150-pervyy-pusk-s-vostochnogo-polnoe-video
/? utm_source = popmech & utm_medium = rss & utm_campaign = public-all-articles
It is not clear how the steps removed ... or maybe 3D?

[Andrey77]

3D, of course.

[Lukich]

Quote: Andrey77

3D, of course.

one more special. do you even know what 3D is ?????
it is a three-dimensional space. you will not draw space !!!!

[Andrey77]

Another teacher ... 3d is three-dimensional space ????? !!!!! Did you study physics? Oh yes, these are three dimensions ... Three dimensions equals 3d space, Master Yoda?

[Lukich]

Quote: sub307

It is unclear how the steps were removed.

elementary computer graphics

Quote: sub307

maybe 3D?

and where does 3D? did you watch this in a three-dimensional image?

[Andrey77]

I watched in 4D. What's next?

[Andrey77]

This year 2 launches are scheduled.

[dogens]

Quote: inkass_98

Yeah, military man. Remember Kapustin Yar. Vostochny!, Like Baikonur, will be used for manned launches.
Although it’s too early to rejoice - there will be no more launches this year, there will be a couple next year, five or six will take place in 2018 ... It will not be enough!

Yes. I agree, I am also happy, but the next similar launch is only in 2017. Manned launch, according to our media in 2023.
There is something to be happy about, but even so, the Wishlist would like space independence to come to our country early. I understand everything is not a simple matter. But against the background of the launch schedule, the thought comes that the launch on April 27-28 was very risky, and failure 27 seems to be God's providence and not a punishment.

Another question, who needs to be planted to speed up the construction process?

[ovod84]

On the road, especially since the president personally controlled the process. There is no control, no order.

[Igor39]

Now he needs to Omsk to control how the roads are put in order.

[vkl.47]

it is the local government that should control and not Putin. everyone is lazy. and the local residents also control and write to the relevant authorities. if the local authorities do not suck in good

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Igor39

Now he needs to Omsk to control how the roads are put in order.

it’s for sure - you could take a day, just walk along the road on foot, along with the entire local elite - you look at the roads in one city

[Bort radist]

Quote: Stirbjorn

just walk along the road on foot, along with the entire local elite - you look in one city put the roads in order

Blessed is he who believes. Medvedev and 7 ministers came to us about two weeks ago. And laughter and sin, the roads were repaired in accordance with the change in the proposed route.

[viktor1979]

I agree when Medvedev and Gryzlov came to Khabarovsk to launch boilers at the CHPP-1 on gas, the road was made, but only to the CHPP-it remained as it was.

[sub307]

Stirbjorn: "that's for sure - I could devote a day, just take a walk along the expensive foot ..." Yeah, "let's hit the president" on the road ..., mismanagement and bureaucracy ..., hurray comrades!

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: sub307

Stirbjorn: "that's for sure - I could devote a day, just take a walk along the expensive foot ..." Yeah, "let's hit the president" on the road ..., mismanagement and bureaucracy ..., hurray comrades!

Well, if he built such a system himself that everything is in the manual control mode - let him follow it. Once officials can not appoint normal. And so at the end of the term it can report = here it has put the roads in order ... at least in large cities. Anything more relevant than any Syria, about which in every issue Taldychut

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Igor39

Now he needs to Omsk to control how the roads are put in order.

1000 presidents will not be enough to control all the roads ...

[Koshak]

Quote: Igor39

Now he needs to Omsk to control how the roads are put in order.

Yeah. And in our house the pipes are rotten, it would be necessary for Putin personally to climb and control the basements.
Is he the mayor of Omsk ?!

[Andrey77]

He will not even call the mayor - he will immediately have a profile minister from the government.

[Andrey77]

Here he has nothing more to do ... He will call the Minister of Transport on the carpet.

[Manul]

Quote: ovod84

On the road, especially since the president personally controlled the process. There is no control, no order.

Listen, but to everyone who thinks that the president has come for control, it does not occur to him that he came because he could not help but come. This is a historic moment. Any self-respecting leader will come to launch any significant project. And here is the head of our state for the first launch ... Doesn’t he come just because all-traders wouldn’t think anything bad?

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Manul

Listen, but to everyone who thinks that the president has come for control, it does not occur to him that he came because he could not help but come. This is a historic moment.

Absolutely right! That's what I'm talking about. Just think about it, Russia in such difficult conditions was able to build a new spaceport plus a rocket that successfully launched today!

[demchuk.ig]

I congratulate you gentlemen! The Vostochny Cosmodrome has earned, although not without problems! The satellites are already in intermediate orbit.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: demchuk.ig

I congratulate you gentlemen! The Vostochny Cosmodrome has earned, although not without problems! The satellites are already in intermediate orbit.

gentlemen in Paris .... we are friends or comrades.

[Homo]

Quote: demchuk.ig

I congratulate you gentlemen!

Who are you talking to? The word "gentlemen" has never been in common use either in Russia or in the Russian Empire. This appeal is for a very narrow circle. The liberal "elite" introduced it for themselves, and in many cases it sounds very stupid. Mister loader, mister plumber, mister bum !!!

[Lukich]

Quote: Homo

Mr. loader, Mr. plumber, Mr. Bum !!!

to the PROFESSION the address of the mister has no relation.

[Homo]

Quote: Lukich

to the PROFESSION the address of the mister has no relation.

And what has it? How to contact the loader (with 3 classes of education), the plumber (drunk to smithereens), the bum (smelly and dirty like garbage) ???

First, in the singular form, the address "master" is not used independently, but only with a surname, title or position:
Mr. Onuchkin, Mr. Governor, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Professor.
Secondly, the address "gentlemen" or "ladies and gentlemen" - this is an equal to equal treatment. Sometimes it is combined with index calls, provided the audience is homogeneous: gentlemen bankers, gentlemen entrepreneurs.
Thirdly, since the address still retains both the old lexical meaning and the socio-political pre-revolutionary connotation ("the master of his position"), it should not be used in relation to the poor, unemployed and other socially unprotected segments of the population. In this case, it may sound just like a mockery: "gentlemen of the unemployed" or "gentlemen of refugees".

http://www.bibliotekar.ru/delovoe-obschenie/90.htm

[sa-ag]

Quote: Homo

never in Russia or in the Russian Empire was not commonly used.

It was, it was, a very long time :-) Until 1917

[Andrey77]

"Gentlemen, officers!" - the statutory greeting of the incoming officer of the other officers of the Russian Empire.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

"comrades officers", sounds much nicer ... I remember how the regiment commander entered the class for pre-flight training, and seeing that no one noticed, being a private, I barked: comrades officers !!! "I should have seen my happy face when undergrounds, majors, caps and starleys with letokhs jumped off at my command !!!

[Andrey77]

Comrade officers - already authorized in the Soviet army. It went straight from the gentlemen of the officers, for many went into the red camp.

[Homo]

Quote: Andrey77

"Gentlemen, officers!" - the statutory greeting of the incoming officer of the other officers of the Russian Empire.

Have you even heard me? I said to be UNIVERSAL !!! Officers - yes, no soldiers! Engineers - yes, workers - no! The teacher - yes, the janitor - no! Continue?

[Andrey77]

I said - AUTHORIZED! The officer could not do otherwise. Charter! If he didn’t apply according to the charter, he would be demoted to non-commissioned officer. And this is ours, from a major to a warrant officer. By the way, for a duel with a soldier - the same thing.

[Homo]

Quote: sa-ag

It was, it was, a very long time :-) Until 1917

What are you !? To the peasants, to the workers, to the merchants on the street, to the beggars, to the thieves too? But what about "amiable", "man", "hey you"?

[Azitral]

This is at work the waiter "amiable" or in general "hey you". And at my reception he is Mr. Ivanov, and this, in my opinion, is correct. Nobody has taken offense yet. This later, if everything is in order, you can use the name and patronymic.

[Homo]

First, in the singular form, the address "master" is not used independently, but only with a surname, title or position:
Mr. Onuchkin, Mr. Governor, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Professor.
Secondly, the address "gentlemen" or "ladies and gentlemen" - this is an equal to equal treatment. Sometimes it is combined with index calls, provided the audience is homogeneous: gentlemen bankers, gentlemen entrepreneurs.
Thirdly, since the address still retains both the old lexical meaning and the socio-political pre-revolutionary connotation ("the master of his position"), it should not be used in relation to the poor, unemployed and other socially unprotected segments of the population. In this case, it may sound just like a mockery: "gentlemen of the unemployed" or "gentlemen of refugees".

http://www.bibliotekar.ru/delovoe-obschenie/90.htm

[Andrey77]

The term is not used for communists. Take it easy.

[Andrey77]

Mister second lieutenant (lieutenant, officer) - statutory appeal of a junior rank to an officer in the Russian Empire. Not everyone knew the titles of the peasants, there was no Internet. Therefore, the non-commissioned officers addressed, without knowing the rank, either "lord" (soldiers) or "your honor (honor)".

[33 Watcher]

Well, thank God! And then I was upset yesterday when the start did not take place ... Hurray comrades! Hooray!

[ovod84]

On the road, especially since the president personally controlled the process. There is no control, no order.

[viktorrymar]

It is bad, comrades, that in our countries, nothing is done as it should without the personal control of the presidents. It is bad that people do not test their measure of responsibility and do not even show reasonable initiative on the ground, in the areas entrusted to them! It is bad that everyone is trying to shift the responsibility to another, and there is even no thought that they are entrusted with the authority of the country, that a lot depends on this launch in the minds of the people, their pride in their science, scientists, engineers.

And I congratulate Russia on the successful launch of a new cosmodrome !!!

[viktor1979]

It seems that where there is no president there is always a mess. It should not be so.

[dmi.pris1]

To this rocket it was necessary to attach a cage with thieves and bribe-takers, burnt at this spaceport ..

[Yak28]

I myself go awry, such a serious object as a cosmodrome, the country's leadership oversees the progress of construction and still people manage to steal billions. And you can imagine how many people steal at other construction sites, in the construction of houses, residential neighborhoods, roads and so on, not everyone can imagine it will be able.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Yak28

I myself go awry, such a serious object as a cosmodrome, the country's leadership oversees the progress of construction and still people manage to steal billions. And you can imagine how many people steal at other construction sites, in the construction of houses, residential neighborhoods, roads and so on, not everyone can imagine it will be able.

Well, maybe in Sochi they’ve drifted a lot, now they are preparing for the World Cup-18 (tyryat) ...

[Moore]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Well, maybe in Sochi they’ve drifted a lot, now they are preparing for the World Cup-18 (tyryat) ...

Alas, the construction has been functioning since the time of the pyramids.
Built, snatched trochi for sebe - well done.
I snatched it, but didn’t build anything, as it was on this very cosmodrome a couple of years ago, - please visit the prosecutor.

[33 Watcher]

It's not a matter of "observing" ... The trouble is that for every ruble, papers are issued for 10 rubles ... Ie. the number of intermediaries, and intermediaries between intermediaries - horror ..! And everyone knows how, at his own stage, 10 kopecks from this ruble. snatch. And since there are more (much) intermediaries than 10. Any ruble (state) turns into three, only at the stage of preparation of work. And only then, you can begin to allocate for work, i.e. thieving builders. Three more ... In total 7! Where is it built for the ruble.
Just fewer bureaucrats and fewer subcontractors, and life will get better. Corruption, of course, will not be strangled, you will not kill, but there will be, not 7, but 1,3, for example ...

[Lukich]

Quote: dmi.pris

To this rocket it was necessary to attach a cage with thieves and bribe-takers, burnt at this spaceport ..

they will attach to the "Angara". she has more carrying capacity

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Lukich

they will attach to the "Angara". she has more carrying capacity

And as in that song: "... towards the morning dawn, on the Angara, on the Angara."

[Lukich]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

And as in that song: "... towards the morning dawn,

Well, yes, they fly east

[pig killer]

then she wouldn’t take off.

[Vitali-46]

Good news in the morning !!! I wanted them all to always be successful !!!!!!

[lwxx]

Another, no, huge! step towards independence. Including from friends who twist their arms. It remains to deal with the thief, dmi.pris +100500

[Қarabas]

I sincerely congratulate you, Russians. A very important event. Western countries impose sanctions on Russia, and she rockets into space from the new cosmodrome! Well done)

[Lukich]

Quote: karabas

Western countries impose sanctions on Russia, and she rockets into space from the new cosmodrome!

I imagine what is happening on the censor.

[pig killer]

Stop by to read. Yesterday they howled with joy.

[Lukich]

Quote: pigkiller

Come to read

I can not. in a couple of minutes the monitor is ready to break. but on this example a little guess. the truth is on another start

[Winter cherry]

This kitty is a joker

[Lukich]

Quote: Winter cherry

This kitty is a joker

but in my opinion a pupil of the Maidan. he obviously fed there

[Lukich]

Quote: pigkiller

Stop by to read.

could not. blocked for me

[Holsten]

Victory ! Per aspera ad astra / through thorns to stars / in this case literally approaches.

[bad]

Quote: dmi.pris

To this rocket it was necessary to attach a cage with thieves and bribe-takers, burnt at this spaceport ..

..heh..there is a lot of honor for them and there’s nothing to barrage a rocket .. but to concrete them quietly when laying the sewers, that's it ..

[slovak007]

Who would doubt it. Our rocket is reliable! And to postpone for a day is a regular situation.
The so-called general effect worked

[Lukich]

Quote: slovak007

Who would doubt it. Our rocket is reliable! And to postpone for a day is a regular situation.

and "Buran" was postponed. but then how did it fly away

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Lukich

and "Buran" was postponed. but then how did it fly away

flew off so that the Japanese gasped: "and these people have such machines ..."

[Andrey77]

There is such a thing. As soon as the big bosses arrive, their little hands begin to tremble ... I watched both as a person being tested and as an inspector. Usually the bosses themselves from the "former", close their eyes.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: slovak007

Who would doubt it. Our rocket is reliable! And to postpone for a day is a regular situation.
The so-called general effect worked

"yusa", "shuttle" were postponed for days ...

[1536]

Victory Victory Day! Hello!

[vjatsergey]

Well, that's nice! Now I would still have to do all the electronic stuffing in Russia and it would be very good.

[slovak007]

Specifically on this launch vehicle, our electronics. But on the spacecraft, things are not so smooth, unfortunately ...

[Andrey77]

If about chips - then electronics is done at 1 factory in China. All! Today for the USA, tomorrow for Russia, the day after tomorrow for China. Give the matrix - and they rivet for you. And so the main production is occupied by Intel and NVidia chips.

[bk316]

Quote: Andrey77

Electronics is made at 1 factory in China. All!

And what have D1D, D1C, Fab 32 and Fab 11X already closed?
They would be ashamed to write nonsense ....

[Rec]

Quote: bk316

And what have D1D, D1C, Fab 32 and Fab 11X already closed?

You can add fab18 and fab28 in Israel, fab36 and fab38 in Germany, and much more, and these are only Intel and AMD.

[godofwar6699]

Quote: Thrall

So, Obama, Russia is tearing itself to shreds

and how does politics relate to the eastern spaceport?

[Lukich]

Quote: godofwar6699

and how does politics relate to the eastern spaceport?

and now politics is everywhere. look what’s going on in sports. and he should generally be out of politics

[Homo]

Quote: godofwar6699

and how does politics relate to the eastern spaceport?

Why politics? Obama talked about the Russian economy!

[ARES623]

The Kazakhs are sad, I guess. Free money goes away. Gone is the reason for speculation. Allies in the East, they are on their own mind. There are many who would like us to fail. From overseas "partners" to our liberal-peder ... comrade. But we succeeded in a great event. It will be cooler than the Olympics, and even more necessary ...

[Kadex]

Do not judge people by yourself. It is good that free money leaves. A freebie never brings to good. So, there is no sadness. As for speculation - you are mistaken for the address. Kazakhstan has always advocated the joint development of Baikonur.

[ARES623]

Quote: KADEX

Do not judge people by yourself. It is good that free money leaves. A freebie never brings to good. So, there is no sadness. As for speculation - you are mistaken for the address. Kazakhstan has always advocated the joint development of Baikonur.

Wrong with speculation? Maybe yes. Because it is simply blackmail on the absence of alternative sites for manned programs. That is why we pay more for Kazakhs for Baikonur than Ukrainians for Sevastopol. And they could still drive us for a mustache for every agreement on the next launch. We also maintain, teach and treat the whole city at our own expense, including the citizens of Kazakhstan. Can someone remind the contribution of Kazakhs to the construction? There is no sadness. No matter how. Nobody has refused a freebie yet. And the East is even more so.

Quote: Andrey77

Andrey77 (3) Today, 11:21 ↑
Kazakhstan is our strategic ally. Plus a member of the CSTO. Or do you want to see the NATO bases in Kazakhstan? And yes, the border between Kazakhstan and Russia is conditional. Come on whoever you want.

Allies, speak. And remind ka, when these allies framed the allied shoulder? In the war 8.8.8.? In the situation with the Crimea? Their point of view is not heard in the Donbass. Or maybe they rushed to Armenia to support our common CSTO ally? They sit like mice. And they are in the CSTO only because they know that Afghanistan is very close with IS fighters, mujahideen and drugs. It is worth the bunker to disperse, at least as with the Uzbeks, they will be erased on the map by the same IS from the USA, who will not forgive them the possession of Tengiz. But domestic nationalism there is hardly weaker than Ukrainian. All relations are held on Nazarbayev. He will not leave yet the fact that there will be no graters between us. And in the presence of the East, especially when we begin to conduct manned launches there, the fervor of the Kazakhs will decrease. Kazakhs are allies, well ....

[Kadex]

ARES623, you are very emotional and not consistent. This can be seen in the text, you are all lumping together. Let's figure it out. What does not suit you about Baikonur? The fact that they paid a lot and took you "by the mustache" on launches. So?
1. Lease for the spaceport has not changed since the conclusion of the contract, and this is the distant 1990s. This is more than 20 years old. What do you think, how have prices changed in our life over this time?
2. Now, "mustache". The launches were agreed upon, and if they were postponed on our initiative, it was only because of accidents on launch vehicles. If an aircraft crashes, flights are suspended until the circumstances are clarified. Do you know about this? And then a rocket, and even with heptyl.
Now, regarding the alliance.
Did you get attacked in August 2008? Violated the territorial integrity of the state? The same thing is in the Crimea. And Donbass, it’s in general - Ukraine. Should Armenia be saved too? Learn the nature of the problem.

[ARES623]

Quote: KADEX

What do you think, how have prices changed in our life over this time?

In dollars - it has not changed, but this is just a small part of the total payments. As for launches, friction periodically occurred without accidents, and for accidents they additionally paid for damage to the desert, in which there was nothing and no one.
In August, by the way, Russian peacekeepers were shot in South Ossetia. For all graters with Europe on this occasion, the Kazakhs have never politically supported politically. I will not speak about Crimea and the attacks in connection with Ukraine - Kazakhstan is sitting in a trench, waiting for its dividends in the form of a piece of participation in Ukraine’s road past Russia. Here is your allied position.

[Kadex]

Quote: ARES623

In dollars - has not changed

You are mistaken, my dear. Or, you don’t know what you are arguing about. For example, so offhand, in my own right, in 1998 we sold a 3 room apartment. for 8 thousand dollars. Now, even after the devaluation, you will not find less than 50. Rent then cost less than $ 100, now at least 400. What do we see? On average, the price in this currency increased 5 times.
For accidents. But what about mother nature? Or let’s pour heptyl in the taiga, there is nobody and nothing there.
The fact that Georgia decided by force to solve the problem of Yu.O., Kazakhstan did not support. Is this not enough for you? In all your graters, Kazakhstan always takes an extremely clear and consistent position. We do not divide Russians and Ukrainians, Azerbaijanis and Armenians. We are ready to work honestly and openly with everyone - this is our allied position.

[ARES623]

Quote: KADEX

The fact that Georgia decided by force to solve the problem of Yu.O., Kazakhstan did not support. Is this not enough for you?

This is not enough to be considered an ally. This is the viewer's position with a bucket of popcorn.

Quote: KADEX

In all your graters, Kazakhstan always takes an extremely clear and consistent position.

Of course, very clearly and consistently - "we sit and look from the outside, we earn as much as we can, nothing personal."
If, you say, everything is being decided in a fair way, then why did Kazakhstan begin to claim part of the commercial benefit from the launches? Did you invest something in a rocket, in launching complexes? And they pushed their Wishlist by limiting the withdrawal routes and quoting launches. Yes, it's allied. Like, "you won't go anywhere, share or not fly at all." And the pushing of launches by Ukraine, which is "not a finger on a finger" in Baikonur, speaks of an extremely unfair commercial interest. Of course, Kazakhstan is not an enemy, and I hope it will not become such, but the ally is very "interesting" and difficult.

[Kadex]

Quote: ARES623

This is the viewer's position with a bucket of popcorn.

Condemnation of Georgia’s military actions is not enough. What do you need us to declare war on Georgia?

Quote: ARES623

with what fright did Kazakhstan begin to claim part of the commercial benefits of launches?

But from this place, please in more detail.

Quote: ARES623

Yes, it's allied. Like, "you won't go anywhere, share or not fly at all." And the pushing of launches by Ukraine, which is "not a finger on a finger" in Baikonur, speaks of an extremely unfair commercial interest.

Let's start with the fact that in 2004 Russia and Kazakhstan agreed to jointly use the cosmodrome and prepared the Baiterek project for the Angara. We have allocated money, ready to bear all the costs together. And Russia has devoured this project. How is it - allied? So, then, seeing that Russia is deliberately delaying the project, increasing its cost, there was a proposal to reorient to the Zenit launch vehicle.
In general, our efforts in the development of the space program, whether with the "Bayterek" or "KazSat-1" built by you, lead to unpleasant thoughts and suspicions. To develop the resource of the cosmodrome, squeezing out the last juices from it and leave us a heap of useless metal, this is the result that follows from all this. Do we need it? We want the cosmodrome to live and work.
Kazakhstan is not an enemy to anyone, if everything is like garlic. But Russia is no less a "murky" partner.

[ARES623]

Quote: KADEX

Let's start with the fact that in 2004 Russia and Kazakhstan agreed to jointly use the cosmodrome and prepared the Baiterek project for Angara. We have allocated money, ready to bear all the costs together. And Russia has devoured this project.

This is probably why Russia brought the project to launch, despite the fact that Kazakhstan withdrew from the project. And it is understandable that at the slightest trouble you can always charge more fines on "Proton" than the entire rent. Which, in general, was. And the desire of some talented comrades from Astana to move from lease relations to some murky forms of interaction on Baikonur finally dissuaded Russia from the reliability and duration of working agreements. Everyone recognizes this as a factor in accelerating the construction of the East. We understand very well that as soon as Nazarbayev leaves the post of President of the Kyrgyz Republic, an unpredictable swing will begin. Nazarbayev is today the main brake on the nationalist elites in Kazakhstan. He is already 75, how long will he be at the helm? Year, 10 years? Better than 10 or more, but as God willing. And if you do not notice this, then probably from the CD you only have a checkbox in the comment. As for the resource, Russia is investing in the development of the cosmodrome even more than rent. Although, on the other hand, you are absolutely right, why should we run into it? As soon as we leave from there, you will immediately give it to the Yankees. Then it will be clear who spoils nature for you. You cannot pull your space, the Ukrainians are also blown away, and iron, if you do not follow it for a couple of years, will die quickly. Why do you need it?

[Kadex]

Quote: ARES623

This is probably why Russia brought the project to launch, despite the fact that Kazakhstan left the project.

The fact of the matter is that Russia did not bring the project, and even more so to the launch. And Kazakhstan came out, because Russia raised the previously agreed amount 7 (!) Times. Oh, you're complaining about renting 100 years at lunch.

Quote: ARES623

At the slightest trouble, Proton can be charged with more fines than the entire rent. Which, in general, was.

Not really yours. When renting 115 million, the fine was 2.5 million. Another time, a total of 0.5 million.

Quote: ARES623

And the desire of some capable comrades from Astana to move from rental relations to some muddy forms of interaction on Baikonur finally convinced Russia of the reliability and duration of working arrangements.

50/50 parity relations are muddy forms of interaction ?! Are you out of your mind?
Then, what is the name of the actions of Roscosmos, which secretly took out the layout of the Angara, as revealed by the auditors of the Accounts Chamber?
And do not go to Nazarbayev's whole conversation. Sit, guessing on the coffee grounds will we? Specifically, we speak for Baikonur, and whoever bothers here is wishful thinking.

Quote: ARES623

And as for the resource, Russia is investing even more than a lease in the development of the cosmodrome.

And again, not your truth. Russia does not invest anything in the development of the cosmodrome, but exploits it + the maintenance of all objects and the city with the population. Total - 50 million dollars.

Quote: ARES623

As soon as we leave, you will immediately give it to the Yankees.

You have a strange position, you don’t want to use the spaceport on an equal footing, and tomorrow we, working on Baikonur with other countries, will you still lament what bad comrades we are?

Quote: ARES623

You cannot pull your cosmos, Ukrainians are also blown away, and iron, if you do not follow it for a couple of years, will die quickly. Why do you need it?

Here is your position. You do not wish Baikonur to work for us. A curtain.

[ARES623]

Quote: KADEX

Quote: ARES623
At the slightest trouble, Proton can be charged with more fines than the entire rent. Which, in general, was.
Not really yours. When renting 115 million, the fine was 2.5 million. Another time, a total of 0.5 million.

Demons hide in little things. The Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan estimated the accident on July 2, 2013 at $ 90 million, Russia did not pay, but carried out its own expertise, which reduced the cost of damage by an order of magnitude. In 2006, the Kyrgyz Republic estimated the damage at $ 330 million for the accident, converged on $ 1,11 million. In 2007, the Kyrgyz Republic requested 8,5 million, the real estimate was within 2,5 million. And so every time. As for Angara - KR left the project in 2013, in July 2014 we launched it ourselves from Plesetsk. The project is quite complicated, and it went hard, but such big things as pies are not baked. Not satisfied with the price of our rocket, buy another. You already have a lot of projects with NATO member countries. Probably it is easier and more profitable with them, they probably share your values. I no longer raise the question of an alliance, mind you. Maintaining the operability of Baikonur and the city costs Russia from 82 to 110 million dollars a year. And you? I don’t want to "mirror" you and claim that you do not know the topic, but your information is too one-sided. Because even your head of Kazkosmos considers the construction of the Eastern one to be justified from the point of view of politics. Trust is earned for a long time with sweat and blood, but it is lost instantly. And it is no longer so important that our leaders smile at each other and issue rainbow press releases. We look at what is really DOING, it's true. But in general, thank you, we made you delve deeper into the subject matter of the news of the central TV channel. Frankly speaking, when I gathered everything I dug together, even with my rather reserved optimism, it became sad.

[Andrey77]

Kazakhstan is our strategic ally. Plus a member of the CSTO. Or do you want to see the NATO bases in Kazakhstan? And yes, the border between Kazakhstan and Russia is conditional. Come on whoever you want.

[AleksPol]

Manned flights will be launched from Baikonur, at least until 2023. Yes, and work on the East endless land. The most important start has been made. And successfully.

[godofwar6699]

Quote: Lukich

Quote: godofwar6699

and how does politics relate to the eastern spaceport?

and now politics is everywhere. look what’s going on in sports. and he should generally be out of politics

Space is out of politics

[Lukich]

Quote: godofwar6699

Space is out of politics

sure? it astronauts hug, they live together. and athletes are hugging. you can’t imagine what a howl would raise politicians not to fly (God forbid). they would remember everything. and Crimea and Donbass and Syria. Have you forgotten the Olympics in Sochi? and Moscow 80s? continue?

[Bort radist]

Quote: Lukich

it astronauts hug, they live together.

In my opinion there are restrictions with access to the American sector. Friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart.

[Lukich]

Quote: Bort Radist

In my opinion there are restrictions with access to the American sector. Friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart.

there is. there is secret equipment. but eat at the same table

[Andrey77]

Something like this. Access to equipment is limited, but you can fly all over the station.

[Andrey77]

There are no restrictions there. There are racks with equipment to which access is restricted.

[Lukich]

Quote: Andrey77

There are no restrictions there. There are racks with equipment to which access is restricted.

not racks, but segments. there is completely a segment of one country and they have every right to not let anyone in there. it's like a communal apartment. there are common areas, there are separate rooms. Well take an interest, look in the internet the appearance of the station and you will understand everything !!!!

[i80186]

Finally, if we intend to win the battle that is now waged around the world between freedom and tyranny, then it should be completely clear to us that the dramatic achievements in space that have occurred in recent weeks, like the launch of Sputnik in 1957, have a serious impact on the minds of people everywhere in the world - on people who are trying to make a choice which way they should go next. (Kennedy)

From the famous speech. Naturally, space is outside politics, yeah.

[maximon2005]

Of course there are crashes and not everything goes smoothly. But better later than explode at the start. They started up like X-25ml with Su-24m. I got off a direct hit on the goal from the first run. And the other crew made 6 calls, did not go away and that’s all. They got nervous. You will not wish the enemy. Thanks rocketers, REFERRED. God forbid that they would never explode at the start, but take off like today. Imagine how nervous they all were.

[From Tver]

Congratulations to all of us on this great day and this new victory !!!

[parusnik]

Earth, goodbye! .. Good luck! ... I would like Baikonur’s rent to end .. Serve it .. Let friendly Kazakhstan enjoy it ...

[Andrey77]

Kazakhstan will go bankrupt in content.

[Shark Lover]

The event is truly significant. THIS ALREADY TAKE OFF! They write a lot to us, in plans, to prepare, will, soon, be planned, rise, etc. And here it WORKS! From scratch, such a mmmm engine fell into obscurity. Despite thieves, kov and all evil spirits, it works. (This is about officials)

[bubalik]

,, yes, they did a great thing ,,, we have at Progress engineers on 25 tr get, do not appreciate the work ,,,

[Andrey77]

Immediately after college? Normal payment. Until he showed himself.

[Bolhevik]

They paid 115 million dollars a year - for the rental of Baikonur, saving on face. So besides this
There are those who want to rent an East.

[Kadex]

Quote: Bolhevik

So besides this
There are those who want to rent an East.

Meaning? Built to lease ?!

[Dikson]

Well, I think China will not refuse to use it ..

[Engineer]

Congratulations, men, with a new milestone in the national space industry !!!

[RussianRoulette]

From this moment, Kazakhstan nervously with even greater effort will be forced to nervously give a pipette. Money is flying away from home ...

[atalef]

Quote: RussianRoulette

From this moment, Kazakhstan nervously with even greater effort will be forced to nervously give a pipette. Money is flying away from home ...

Love you, your second homeland

[Bekas1967]

It’s hard to come to terms with the independence of the former colony)))) And if it really is, all nations in the KZ get along very well! But pay isnnada, everyone pays ....

[exumer]

Well, thank the president, and I thought again they would postpone the launch, looking at how he carried them all yesterday!

[Yarik76]

Well, it's nice 'well, that's good', otherwise it was scary to look at the GDP yesterday.

[Sergej1972]

More likely on Rogozin ...

[Monos]

Friends! I just realized what a great deal has been done! The collider and our spaceport - these are all the achievements of mankind in recent decades!

[atalef]

Quote: Monos

Friends! I just realized what a great deal has been done! The collider and our spaceport - that's all the achievements of mankind in recent decades!

Well, a huge deal has been done, only with the second part I would argue a little.
So, at least recall the Internet and mobile communications (for starters) in general the same achievement.
Like the whole recent technological revolution.

[Andrey77]

Mobile communications - the achievement of humanity abruptly than space. Cut down all the base stations in the world for a day ...

[Monos]

Yes you zayet, somehow lived without mobile phones and did not feel discomfort. And the future of humanity in space. Well, our planet will not bear such a demographic burden!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Andrey77

Mobile communications - the achievement of humanity abruptly than space. Cut down all the base stations in the world for a day ...

And that will be? Yes, there will be nothing. Take a break from the empty and useless chatter on the phone.
Perfectly managed with a home phone, at work and vending machines on the street for 2 pennies. I lived like this for about 45 years and didn’t die of the lack of a personal mobile phone.

[Lukich]

Quote: Алексей_К

Perfectly managed with a home phone,

Yes, and not all he had. nothing, impatiently, ran to the neighbor and called. and talked more.

[Andrey77]

And what if the official conversation? Time is money.

[Andrey77]

You yes. But you, and mobile communications, by and large do not need. You are not a trader on the exchange, when a second is valued at millions of euros ... Look at the exchange trading - there people with 3 (!) Mobiles play on lowering / raising shares. To call your son-daughter, a subordinate employee. This is your idea of ​​phone chatter. And I have 6 counter-agents hanging on the phone ...

[Monos]

Internet and communication are achievements, but commercial and controversial, as is my statement. The collider and the spaceport are fundamental achievements. It is striving for the future.

[Andrey77]

Commercial agreements (communications) above all. Without this, there will be no colliders with spaceports. Okay, do you need government communications?

[siberalt]

Viktor, let's just have a glass, and cross this "collider" from the list to hell! We need it, who and where will the "demographic burden" bear?

[Monos]

And burn it with a blue flame, this collider! Your health, Oleg!

[v1tz]

Forward and only forward, the Russians haven’t been given another ... yet to defeat impassability, sloppiness, thievery: there are at least some shifts in this direction.

[Zomanus]

Yeah, an event, however. But now it is not perceived, somehow.
For a lot of dirt and noise around. But in five to ten years ...
I am a member of the "Witnesses of the Construction of the Crimean Bridge" sect.
I measure the length of the embankment in Kerch with a ruler in scale, and I consider the supports PM-2 and PM-3.)))

[Dr. Lecturer]

Quote: Holsten

Victory ! Per aspera ad astra / through thorns to stars / in this case literally approaches.

When we studied Latin at the institute, it was translated as, if not Tridvaras. Well, in general, how do you like the illumination of a rocket and the baptized Ivanov.

[ARES623]

Quote: Doctor Lecturer

But in general, how do you like the lighting of a rocket and Ivanov baptized.

What you just won’t go to, if only it flew ... Just a little more, and he (Ivanov) with a priest would be ready to kiss (to the delight of peder ... comrade)

[Gvas1174]

Without any cheers-patriotism - it’s nice, interesting, China at what stage in this topic? Their applications are not weak either.

[avg-mgn]

Well, here we go! With the victory of designers, developers, civilian and military specialists !!! Now, hurrying slowly to new starts, good luck.

[gg.na]

That's all! The construction of the spaceport was completed and the first launch took place!

[SeregaBoss]

Well, fine! What will the old Albright say now? This is not for her fagots with lesbians to lick and cherish!
Special thanks to all the Russians who participated in this historic launch!

[Mestny]

Quote: Sukhov

on the one hand, why rejoice at just repeating what they did in the Union more than 50 years ago?

How many cosmodromes are being built in the world?
Are there many of them at all?
How many countries have a full cycle of production-launch-operation of space technology?
And the last question - why in 50 years, if everything is so simple, so few have repeated?

[sa-ag]

Quote: Mestny

And the last question - why in 50 years, if everything is so simple, so few have repeated?

These are already private individuals, with a budget much smaller than the country’s started to repeat

[Mestny]

OK, then I repeat question number 3:
Do many countries or "individuals" have a full cycle of production, launching and operation of space technology?

[Andrey77]

It is economically easier to "order" a satellite launch than to start up astronautics from scratch. Business.

[Saffron]

Well, thank God, honestly, I was very worried. It was a matter of honor and our cosmonautics (and not only) showed what it is capable of!

[ayuric]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Quote: Igor39

Now he needs to Omsk to control how the roads are put in order.

it’s for sure - you could take a day, just walk along the road on foot, along with the entire local elite - you look at the roads in one city

need to be different, the tops would fly ...

[epsilon571]

Rogozin was not taken into the government cortege after the cancellation of the launch of the Soyuz rocket; the "Prince of the Serene" did not do what he was ordered to do. Disgraced! :

".. The Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation did not comment on the incident to journalists.
Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin left the Vostochny cosmodrome separately from the government cortege after canceling the launch of the Soyuz carrier rocket. At the same time, the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation did not comment on technical problems to journalists. Rogozin hastily left the observation deck, leaving the reporters' questions unanswered .. "

[region58]

Quote: epsilon571

Rogozin was not taken into the government cortege after the cancellation of the launch of the Soyuz rocket

Well, what does the journalist want? It was the Americans launched the Falkon, for a few seconds before the start they gave up, they were so enthusiastic about how cool their automation was - they prevented the accident, as we have written a similar situation that everything is bad, we don’t know anything, we immediately remembered about polymers ... Well it’s a purely technical moment ... On the contrary, it’s good that they didn’t flog the fever, that, they say, blood from the nose should be at that hour, otherwise the end of everything ... They did a great job. Not without problems, but done. And it pleases.

[godofwar6699]

Quote: Homo

Quote: godofwar6699

and how does politics relate to the eastern spaceport?

Why politics? Obama talked about the Russian economy!

it was a political statement.

[Kibalchish]

The best video from Roskosmos in Tveter. He himself revised several times. Wonder how beautiful

[Kadex]

Congratulations to our neighbors on the successful launch of Vostochny!

[kolexxx]

I will add a little about the Lomonosov satellite. With the help of the satellite, the Moscow State University will conduct research on cosmic rays of extremely high energies, research on cosmic gamma-ray bursts, research on transient light phenomena in the upper atmosphere, and research on precipitation of particles from radiation belts. All these issues are at the forefront of modern space physics and astrophysics.
And a little more about "Stork-2D". Aist-2D is an optoelectronic device for remote sensing of the Earth, created by specialists from the Progress Rocket and Space Center and the Samara State Aerospace University (SSAU). It has characteristics that are unique to a small spacecraft. So, with a mass of only 531 kilograms "Aist-2D" has a fundamentally new lens developed by the Krasnogorsk plant named after S.A. Zverev, who, when surveying the earth's surface, will be able to provide a resolution of 1,5 meters with a swath of almost 40 kilometers.
People did not whine, but made such rockets and satellites.

[NordUral]

Good news!

[Ros 56]

This GDP clicked on the striped nose, they probably after a postponed start yesterday prepared a bunch of articles about the idiots-Russians, and here such a bummer. Despite all sorts of twists in the construction of the cosmodrome RUSSIA YOUNG. She wiped her nose striped.

[Old]

I join in the congratulations! Historical event!

[Tatar-in]

Why is it interesting that everything is not done at once without a magic pendell? We are so Russian ....

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Tatar-in

Why is it interesting that everything is not done at once without a magic pendell? We are so Russian ....

ABOUT! And the Germans could not do without a concentration camp. Their first FAA exploded one after another. The Americans had to shoot Werner von Braun, their former enemy, so many missiles at the start burned out.
As I understand it, the chief designer in space is Pendel (Is it from Israel or what?).

[Mig-31]

I heartily congratulate Russia on the successful launch of a rocket from Vostochny Cosmodrome!

[AdekvatNICK]

in general, until 2020 only satellites will launch from the east. Then they will have a heavy class and a manned ship. And by 2030 there will be a fundamentally new ship.
Our economy is so torn to shreds (Obama) that they already built a spaceport and built an entire city nearby.

[siberalt]

In the USSR we were catching up with the USA, now we are catching up with the USSR in the 60 of the last century But seriously, the system needs to be changed. Then, not only will the missiles start without failures, but normal roads will appear.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: siberalt

In the USSR we were catching up with the USA, now we are catching up with the USSR in the 60 of the last century But seriously, the system needs to be changed. Then, not only will the missiles start without failures, but normal roads will appear.

Yes, you can only remember the roads in the USSR with a mockery. In Sverdlovsk at the beginning of the 60's, all the main roads were made of cobblestone. There was no asphalt. The rest of the roads were gravel or just dirt.
And about rockets you apparently are not at all up to date. A huge number of rockets burned at the start, fell before reaching the orbit, became uncontrollable in orbit.

Example - on October 24 of the 1960 of the year the largest catastrophe in the history of rocket science happened - at the Baikonur Cosmodrome, the R-16 ballistic missile exploded during launch, resulting in the fire of 74 man, including the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, the Chief Artillery Marshal M . I. Nedelin.

And how many more rockets burned!

[AdekvatNICK]

Statistics of space launches in the USSR and Russia according to Roscosmos

[Lukich]

Quote: Алексей_К

Example - on October 24, 1960, the largest catastrophe in the history of rocket science occurred - at the launch site Baikonur exploded

not at launch time. fixed the malfunction. in a hurry. there was a high boss. Glavkom Nedelin himself. And so it happened.
I can’t describe ...
here's the link. there are 2 parts about it. disasters were 2. the second is also October 24th.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqT90VmYgEU

[Andrey77]

With all hands for! Offer a system (do not offer the CPSU - rotten model).

[Bort radist]

Let's go!" Glory to scientists, designers and hard workers. I would like to believe that yesterday’s failure is the same as the Armata “stalled”, after this, that’s all sworn partners could not tear themselves away from the monitors, they prepared templates, and then it took off. Something is not heard, did the partners congratulate you on yet another success in space exploration, or what?

[godofwar6699]

Quote: Lukich

Quote: godofwar6699

Space is out of politics

sure? it astronauts hug, they live together. and athletes are hugging. you can’t imagine what a howl would raise politicians not to fly (God forbid). they would remember everything. and Crimea and Donbass and Syria. Have you forgotten the Olympics in Sochi? and Moscow 80s? continue?

I know

[1536]

No matter what they say on the BBC that the Russians launched the spacecraft the second time, etc., but in our country the automation and electronics work when necessary, and the rockets also fly when necessary. And most importantly, where it is needed. In general, everything is as usual!

[gregor6549]

That's exactly what happened with electronics, because... They forgot that electronics is the science of contacts, including cables. Due to poor quality cable, we had to postpone the launch. For which both Rogozin and the head of Roscosmos received a stick from Putin. And they received little. For what was going on in Vostochny, they would have earlier invited you to the wall and asked, “Where is Zin’s money?” But it seems like they asked some sixes and the aces are still on the horse.
And stop looking for foreign intrigues in everything. The first thing you need to do at home is tidy up.

[gregor6549]

And who was such a competent person who instructed the minuses? I understand that my statements somehow run counter to the cheers of the patriotic chorus. But maybe it’s enough to stop rejoicing in what is being done “at any cost” and start rejoicing in the fact that what has been done is done at a reasonable price. Otherwise, you might end up in a chimney. Moreover, the flight is already underway

[Bramb]

Get a minus from me in addition.
Why? Yes, for your outright stupidity!
I will apologize if you cite an economic calculation to support your words.
Everyone understands that this will not happen and your words are empty talk! So you're raking in the minuses.
You don't even understand this basic thing!!!

[ochakow703]

And a minus from me, just not for stupidity, in fact, a lot is true, but a minus for the bile and malice in your words. But I was happy, I congratulated my colleagues, and by the way, they too. Flight mood all day long. Anger towards the enemy in battle is good, but the Motherland (whatever it may be) is not worthy of it. But you don't understand this...

[gregor6549]

Let’s start with the fact that I’ve never been with any of the minus people and I don’t think that poking a stranger who is most likely older than each of you. Still, 80 years is already an age.
Further, there is no malice or bile in my words, but there is a sincere desire to stop shouting “hurray” with or without reason. Moreover, I myself spent 40-odd years in the defense industry of the great Union, developed more than complex air defense and missile defense systems, and this experience allows me to distinguish between “where the fish are and for what” I.e. Each product or system corresponds to a certain “efficiency/cost” ratio, and when in this ratio the cost clearly outweighs the efficiency, then doubts arise about inappropriate joy. In the case of the Vostochny Cosmodrome, which turned out to be the most expensive cosmodrome on the planet, despite the fact that there are no mass launches of spacecraft yet and is not expected soon, only a blind person cannot see the imbalance in the efficiency-cost ratio. And with all this, all these costs again come down to traditionally, sorry, sloppiness. It’s good that the automation managed to react and evaluate the start, but again there was a smell of “launching over the hill” and the loss of millions of people’s money. And I don’t demand the “blood” of managers, I would just like to create an effective quality control system that would make it possible to find “blunders”, both large and small, long before launch. After all, such a system previously existed at EVERY enterprise, but in the military-industrial complex it was double, i.e. The quality control department checked on its own and the Customer's Representative Office itself. If you remember some time ago, the revival of the institution of Military Representatives was announced quite loudly. Let this institute prove that it is not in vain that it receives officer salaries

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: gregor6549

That's exactly what happened with electronics, because... They forgot that electronics is the science of contacts, including cables.

I can agree with you, although my experience (manufacturing onboard systems in warheads) suggests that the onboard electronics must be done without contacts. There are also contacts (connections between rocket stages), but then the contacts must additionally be pressed against each other in special connectors. The warhead in the rocket, and the rocket itself, experiences incredible vibrations and accelerations that even astronauts do not experience, so radio-electronic devices in rockets have nothing in common, for example, with personal computers or Internet network equipment, and are not similar to the equipment of ground-based radars.

[individual]

For failure to launch Soyuz-2.1a on schedule, Putin reprimanded D. Rogozin.

Dima, you say and write everything correctly about NATO, but you need to work, work and work more in Russia!

[Forever so]

How beautifully it went!!! And now what?? Can you see the launch from the first second until insertion into the desired orbit??

[Old_Python]

I first watched the video that is 1 minute 49 seconds long. So at 1.09 it happened that something separated from the rocket and was descending on a parachute system! How so?!?!
Then I looked closer - ugh, cloud!
I wonder if local residents are notified about the launch? It is understandable that the majority work at the cosmodrome, but still? You ride one of these on the bus, the birds are singing, the rockets are flying...

[Svetlana]

Before the next launches, you need to fix the sign dangling in the wind at the end of the booth near the launch pad. The sign can come off, fly, hit the loaded rocket with its sharp end, or pierce the thin wall of the rocket tank.

[Svetlana]

Screenshot of a video of a sign being blown up by the wind.

[Bramb]

And paint the dust.
Did you even see where the exhaust went? To the side! The entire rocket took off cleanly, which has never happened before!
What are you looking at anyway?!

[thinker]

Quote: Holsten

Victory ! Per aspera ad astra / through thorns to stars / in this case literally approaches.

And it’s possible like this -
"I believe, friends,
Rocket caravans
They will rush us forward
From star to star.
On the dusty paths
Distant planets
Will stay
Our tracks."

[Michael67]

Quote: Muvka

Quote: Sukhov

Quote: siberalt

Well done Putin! I personally controlled that the rocket flew in!

They say that a criminal case was instituted on this rocket, so it’s flew awayaway from sin.

In general, the feelings are contradictory,
on the one hand, why rejoice at just repeating what they did in the Union more than 50 years ago?
on the other hand, there is something to be happy about, because after those dashing 90s they still managed to "repeat" it.

But is it nothing that this spaceport is foolish in comparing technological innovations with those that were in the 50s? Well, tell me, what should the cosmodrome look like to satisfy you? What should he be able to do to be different from the old?

What are you all discussing?
It is a holiday today! Today we need to rejoice.
And you are digging into something. Then about this.
Happy Holidays!

[siberalt]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: siberalt

Now we rejoice that the rocket flew to space from the only site that had been built for 9 years.

You have mixed up something, so you have such pessimism.
The construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome began in July 2012. It turns out that it took less than 4 years to build.

According to Putin, the decision was made in 2007. And if it was accepted, then why didn’t they build it? The first satellite from Baikonur was launched in 1957. But it was already built! That is, until Putin became president in 2012, no one moved a damn thing, or were they afraid to cut the money “before”? I don’t know the answer, but you can’t argue with the facts.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: siberalt

According to Putin, the decision was made in 2007. And if it was accepted, then why didn’t they build it? The first satellite from Baikonur was launched in 1957. But it was already built! That is, until Putin became president in 2012, no one moved a damn thing, or were they afraid to cut the money “before”? I don’t know the answer, but you can’t argue with the facts.

Wikipedia:
January 12, 1955. Arrival of the first unit of military builders at the Tyuratam crossing to prepare deployment sites and deploy construction and installation infrastructure. Start of construction of the village.
12 February 1955. Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR on the creation of a testing ground for intercontinental ballistic missiles.
20 July 1955 - the beginning of the construction of the first launch pad.
May 15, 1957 - launch of the first R-7 rocket from the cosmodrome. The next one, also unsuccessful, is in a month.
21 August 1957 - the first successful launch, the rocket delivered conditional ammunition to Kamchatka.

It took two and a half years to build the simplest start, tents, dugouts and the first wooden barracks.
You probably laugh at Russia’s modern achievements and want to criticize them! How can you compare the construction of that first cosmodrome and the modern one? They have nothing in common in terms of the volume of construction work. There was practically no infrastructure at Baikonur at that time. And in Vostochny, haven’t you seen a production building, a retractable assembly building, and control from the MCC, and computerization and automation, and a residential complex. Do you think that the workers and maintenance of the cosmodrome still live in dugouts? And the organization of several rings to protect the territory from the penetration of saboteurs, China is nearby.

And Vostochny was built in only 3 years and 10 months.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: siberalt

According to Putin, the decision was made in 2007. And if it was accepted, then why didn’t they build it? The first satellite from Baikonur was launched in 1957. But it was already built! That is, until Putin became president in 2012, no one moved a damn thing, or were they afraid to cut the money “before”? I don’t know the answer, but you can’t argue with the facts.

So I decided to present a video especially for you, posted by one of the readers about the Vostochny Cosmodrome. By the way, it says that Putin issued a decree on November 7, 2007. And the first stone was laid on August 28, 2010. So this is only a memorial stone. This is not the start of construction yet. Construction began in July 2012.

[Winter cherry]

In addition to the construction itself, there was also the stage of design, approval, examination, etc. All this takes time.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Winter Cherry

In addition to the construction itself, there was also the stage of design, approval, examination, etc. All this takes time.

Of course, I agree with you, only the Sibiralt reader gives an example of the rapid construction of a launch pad at Baikonur in 1957. At the same time, he completely did not take into account this particular stage of “design, approval, examination, etc.” As for Vostochny, technical and preliminary design began in 2011.

[Arkan]

Hooray!!! Russia has its own cosmodrome! This sharply reduces the risks for our space program due to the difficult geopolitical situation in Central Asia. The economic profitability of launch vehicles from the Vostochny cosmodrome increases (everything that worsens the performance disappears when launching from Baikanur).

[AdekvatNICK]

until 2020, only satellites will be launched there, so for now risks remain.

[aszzz888]

Well, that's great! And then some torment appeared in my soul, there was! Happy holiday to everyone involved in this event!
We're also going to Mars!

[Chills]

http://stuffin.space а это всякие штуки над головой.

[AFG-X]

It would also be good to locate production sites and research institutes that are involved in the development of rocket and space technology and satellites in the Far Eastern region. The cost of launches will decrease and the attractiveness of the region for engineers and scientists will increase.

[pig killer]

the city of Tsiolkovsky (formerly Uglegorsk) next to the "Vostochny"

[Taygerus]

this is the feeling when you are not offended by the power, but fill your soul with pride for your Motherland, for which I congratulate everyone

[kolexxx]

I watched the Euronews channel today... they had this news at the end somewhere before the news about Savchenko... so they presented it in such tones that on the second attempt they were able to launch the rocket, Putin harshly scolded the idiots, saying he had to stay for a day to wait for the start, etc. In short, bile. Where else in the world will a cosmodrome be built from scratch in a field and the first launch will be immediately successful... no, the bitches stink... they stink!

[epsilon571]

We don’t do anything without a “magic kick”, that’s for sure, and you should be downvoting in vain, this information is completely official:

". Vladimir Putin reprimanded Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, a severe reprimand to the head of Roscosmos Igor Komarov, and also warned the head of NPO Automation about incomplete official compliance. In this way, the president responded to the failure during the launch of the Soyuz from the Vostochny cosmodrome.

Kommersant special correspondent Andrei Kolesnikov reports that after the Soyuz launch took place on the second attempt, Putin called the heads of the space industry to a small house at the observation post, where he gave them a “real dressing down” for “perfect sloppiness”: the check showed that the reason for the failure of the first launch attempt was problems with the cable leading to the Soyuz fuel valve, manufactured by NPO Automation.

[siberalt]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: Rostov Dad

Great news, I was very pleased that they launched on the basis of technical readiness and not by the appointed date.

But is it not the 1-e May on everyone’s nose, and then the 9-e May? An old tradition from the USSR is to launch on the eve of the Great Holidays.

Is May Day a big holiday? Yah! And where is the working class, as its main filler? What was left from it (the holiday) without an idea. It was International Workers' Day, and now it is a weekend for summer residents, gardeners, and days for rest abroad for deputies and officials.

[Bramb]

And you will work on May 2 and 3 as usual.
Report on the morning of the 4th on the table!

[siberalt]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: Rostov Dad

Great news, I was very pleased that they launched on the basis of technical readiness and not by the appointed date.

But is it not the 1-e May on everyone’s nose, and then the 9-e May? An old tradition from the USSR is to launch on the eve of the Great Holidays.

Is May Day a big holiday? Yah! And where is the working class, as its main filler? What was left from it (the holiday) without an idea. It was International Workers' Day, and now it is a weekend for summer residents, gardeners, and days for rest abroad for deputies and officials.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: siberalt

But is it not the 1-e May on everyone’s nose, and then the 9-e May? An old tradition from the USSR is to launch on the eve of the Great Holidays.
Is May Day a big holiday? Yah! And where is the working class, as its main filler? What was left from it (the holiday) without an idea. It was International Workers' Day, and now it is a weekend for summer residents, gardeners, and days for rest abroad for deputies and officials.

Why didn’t you write anything about May 9th? Also not a holiday in your opinion? I wrote: “Isn’t everyone on May 1st, and then May 9th?”
You are somehow one-sided. I see any Russia across your throat.

[Black]

Yesterday I looked at the President’s face at the “acceleration” meeting and realized that the new cosmodrome is simply doomed to success! With this approach, everything will take off!!!! HOORAY!

[salavat]

Yura! We are not all for.bali, but for all the spiteful critics!

[cedar]

Russia has taken a huge step in the East from the Western Trap, where it was lured by the dermocrats.
Happy first launch of the launch vehicle, and in fact the launch of another Russian space haven!
In one of the photographs of this event, on the assembly tower, I saw a very relevant call for all of us: “Raise your head!”

The Central Bank promises to put into circulation a banknote of 2000 rubles, it would be very appropriate and timely to mark today’s event on this banknote, depicting the city of Tsiolkovsk on one side, and the Vostochny Cosmodrome on the other, with the call “through thorns to the stars!” or “Raise your head” Russia!
Only by raising your head can you see the stars!


“Russia, raise your head,
The star trek is before you
Get up from your knees
Lead the earthlings to the call of the Universe,
And be the first!”

[ARES623]

Some of our liberal journalists wrote quite recently that it would be quite nice to divide Russia somewhere along the Urals. The launch of a launch vehicle from Vostochny once again shows that only big powers are capable of creating global affairs, despite all human factors (and without them nothing is done anywhere). The cosmodrome is a whole city with its own infrastructure, housing, urban services, medical police, shops, in short - a self-sufficient, basically organism created almost from scratch. Even Germany today does not implement such projects. It’s ridiculous to talk about the countries participating in the Eastern Partnership. Only the Great can do great things. And that's who we are...

[Svetlana]

Hello and congratulations to Olechka Stodolskaya from Svobodny on the successful launch!

[tolancop]

Quote: siberalt

It turns out strange. Minusovskih darkness, but mortally afraid to object in words Well, and who does not agree that one of the tasks Putin had was personal control over the start? Then look at his statements on this subject.

Personal control of a high-ranking boss is more of a hindrance than a benefit. The "visit effect" really exists. And there is a rational explanation for this: the presence of a high-ranking boss disrupts the usual course of business, local management gets nervous, constantly pulls at subordinates, etc. with all that it implies.

[Human Factor]

AN AMAZING TRADITION.

Rogozin - a reprimand, the director of the research institute - not full service. All that remains is to reward those who were not involved. The least involved are Medvedev and Dvorkovich. Honored to heroes!

[Winter cherry]

Nothing, let them control their subordinates better

[Torins]

Quote: SPQR1977

not so long ago and the outskirts were friendly ...

They were never friendly. From the very collapse of the USSR, they began to teach their children to hate Russia, what should have come out of this was clear to everyone, but why no one took this into account is probably not clear to anyone

[Orionvit]

Quote: sub307

Baikonur Russia leases from Kazakhstan until 2050. Due to the commissioning and further development of the Vostochny spaceport, Russia may refuse to continue leasing.

The spaceport is rented. Is this how they rented Sevastopol? But Kazakhstan quite seriously considers Baikonur its own, and they are even proud that we have a cosmodrome. I wonder if Russia refuses Baikonur, what will the Kazakhs do with it? Now the Kazakhs will start throwing minuses. Well, in general, with the FIRST LAUNCH from the East!

[muhacece]

hurray our space
a few more tens of millions of dollars went down the drain

[Mestny]

Perhaps you just learned how to post pictures and the Internet? Or is it a pity that they didn’t let you grab the money?

[muhacece]

Perhaps you just learned how to post pictures and the Internet?

[Bramb]

Go and do your direct responsibilities: pick up the trash!
And whatever jars you find there, finish them first so they don’t go to waste!
Your logic, loser. Or is that what you do? ))

[muhacece]

Go take care of your direct responsibilities

[Mestny]

Quote: gregor6549

And who was so competent who instructed the minuses? I understand that my statements somehow run counter to the cheers of the patriotic chorus.

Are you giving us advice here on a cosmic scale about what we should do at home?

[Gypsy girl]

Great!

[Old26]

Quote: Andrey77

It's all about politics. Now we have our own "civilian" cosmodrome, and if anything we can do without Baikonur. But Kazakhstan does not have its own space, so it will lease it. Who?

For at least another 20 years we will not be able to do without Baikonur

Quote: Andrey77

Under another rocket - a month of redoing a maximum. Starting table. All.

And what can you start converting to in a month? Even preventive repairs of starts take much longer, but for you - once a month

Quote: Andrey77

This year 2 launches are scheduled.

One

Quote: gg.na

That's all! The construction of the spaceport was completed and the first launch took place!

Construction is just beginning. Now this is not yet a cosmodrome, but an ersatz cosmodrome. Any accident at the launch - and the cosmodrome is closed.

Quote: AdekvatNICK

Statistics of space launches in the USSR and Russia according to Roscosmos

Linden. It’s unclear why Roscosmos needed to publish this linden story

[natakor1949]

Thanks to our partners for the complete destruction of the state in the 90s, thanks to our partners for the sanctions, thanks to everyone who gave a wonderful kick to the “Russian economy torn to shreds” to build a cosmodrome, launch a rocket, improve agriculture, create a new army - the best in the world, restore the old ones or build new factories of a higher technological level, master import substitution, etc. etc. Flourish my Motherland! I am proud of Russia and its people!

[sub307]

“Among the defects discovered at the Vostochny Cosmodrome after the first successful launch was the torn protection of the launch pad service cabin.
“After the successful launch of the Soyuz, a huge part was discovered in the gas outlet under the launch table - the torn protection of the service cabin. Its purpose is to close the service cabin from below from exhaust gases emitted during launch,” explained a RIA Novosti source in the rocket and space industry.
According to him, this part was apparently torn off by a jet stream of exhaust gases. In total, as the head of Roscosmos Igor Komarov reported, more than 20 comments were identified after the first launch."
http://www.i-mash.ru/news/nov_otrasl/78944-posle-pervogo-puska-s-kosmodroma-vost
ochnyjj.html
In general...there is something to work on.

[proud]

Well done! Russia is a great power and such news is a clear confirmation of this!

[Utlan]

While the Europeans are building a fence on the border with the barbarians. These unwashed barbarians are building a spaceport. Oh how!

[Chazoy]

In short, LET'S GO! And let the liberals, all sorts of them + the Ukronazis burst with their crap. WE build and launch what we want.

[Saffron]

And we made this whole bandura)

[Saffron]

And this one too, and also the launch cabin, but there are no photos of it)

[Old26]

I read all 3 hundred posts, many exclusively in “superlatives” and, to be honest, I don’t know how to feel about this news. On the one hand, it seems like an “event”, the first launch from a new cosmodrome, and on the other hand... On the other hand, there are many questions to which, alas, it is impossible to give positive answers.

What is a cosmodrome essentially? This, one might say, is the tip of the iceberg called “cosmonautics,” because most often they talk about the final thing, that is, the cosmodrome. On the other hand, this is the foundation on which the entire edifice of astronautics is built. And this is what this foundation is, how calculated it is. Of course, the fact of constructing a cosmodrome can be considered separately, but all together it raises a number of questions.

For example
1. To what extent has the “Russian Space Exploration Program for 2016-2025” been calculated? How justified was the range of launch vehicles that Russia is going to develop under this program?
2. How constructive or destructive is the role of Roscosmos, or rather its former leadership, which closed more promising projects with its decisions? To what extent have such decisions set back the domestic space program, by how many years or decades?
3. On what was the decision to build a cosmodrome in this particular place based? After all, there were a number of alternative places for the construction of the cosmodrome, moreover, more profitable from many points of view. Or they wanted the best, that is, to save money, but it turned out as always.
4. What was the basis for the choice of the range of missiles that are going to be launched from Vostochny. Have the long-term consequences of stair fall zones been calculated?
5. On what was the decision based on manned launches of the line of launch vehicles planned at Vostochny? Has the issue of manned flights been considered from the point of view of astronaut safety?
6. Will moving the construction of the Angara to Omsk have a significant economic effect? The only thing that is clear so far is that the “transportation shoulder” will be reduced. Have the issues of passing large structures through tunnels been resolved?
7. There is a lot of talk about the second stage of construction of the cosmodrome. The start for Angara should be ready in 2021. But nothing is said about the creation of launch number 2 for the Soyuz and the same second one for the Angara. In the original plans, this seemed to be the case, but now? To be honest, I haven't heard it.

So questions, questions, questions. Maybe somewhat mundane compared to “Russia has gained space independence” (as if it didn’t have it before) or “Breakthrough into space.” But nonetheless

[Andrey77]

Let's deal.

1. To what extent has the “Russian Space Exploration Program for 2016-2025” been calculated? How justified was the range of launch vehicles that Russia is going to develop under this program?
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Calculated and justified. Objections to the studio.

2. 2. How constructive or destructive is the role of Roscosmos, or rather its former leadership, whose decisions closed more promising projects? To what extent have such decisions set back the domestic space program, by how many years or decades?
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They didn’t throw it away, but brought it closer. Projects in the studio.

3. On what was the decision to build a cosmodrome in this particular place based? After all, there were a number of alternative places for the construction of the cosmodrome, moreover, more profitable from many points of view. Or they wanted the best, that is, to save money, but it turned out as always.
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It turned out as planned. This is the most favorable launch point from the territory of our country. Are there more profitable ones (in China), will we start a war?

I won’t answer the rest of the questions, they are stupid (questions).

[Paven]

Well done! Stop feeding Kazakhstan with rocket launches. The Kazakhs are generally swollen by paying for launches, I’ve been following them for a very long time.

[Engineer]

On radio Echo of Moscow 27 they were very happy that the launch was cancelled, Rashka-parashka, etc... they even started an SMS vote: will 28 fly in? 62% of listeners said no!

[Andrey77]

I haven’t listened to Echo of Moscow for about 7 years. But before it was a good station.

[Denis Skiff]

Quote: godofwar6699

I congratulate you

cool photo! Overall a mesmerizing sight from any angle. And only now I realized that I had never seen anything like this before, even in a recording. Eh!)) Shovel.

[strelok581]

The crests perked up.

[PKTRL]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqT90VmYgEU

Nonsense..Where did you pick up the signs from? 5th grade, algebra?! Killing you is not enough...for such quality of information about launches

[Old26]

Quote: PCTRL

Nonsense..Where did you pick up the signs from? 5th grade, algebra?! Killing you is not enough...for such quality of information about launches

We are not even talking about the number of launches, although you are right, the numbers do not correspond to reality. But also the relationship of all launches and successful ones too. In the same 1962, 21 devices were launched in the USSR, of which only 14 completed their mission. Two purely “unsuccessful” and five “partially successful”. This is when everything entered orbit. Among these five were 2 "Mars" and 3 "Venus"

[Normal ok]

Meanwhile, the trial in the case of theft during the construction of Vostochny was recognized as a state secret.