High school fooling

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The implementation of the project "Education-2030" will complete the elimination of the national school

In recent years, various resolutions and regulations have been passed, seemingly aimed at improving education. A policy has been proclaimed for the large-scale industrialization of the defense industry, which affects the fundamentals of domestic industry. However, a fundamental improvement in the situation with personnel in the military-industrial complex did not happen.

Production, scientific and human potential continues to decline. Many defense enterprises are experiencing an acute shortage of qualified personnel.

With 2018, a new phase of the state program of rearmament of the army will begin, adjusted for non-contact, hybrid wars. New automated systems for managing troops and fire, reconnaissance, etc. will be needed. To create such equipment, highly skilled personnel are needed, which may simply not turn out to be if national education was not restored, which was considered exemplary in the world in the past century, which is confirmed by outstanding achievements in space , science, medicine. “This is an extremely important issue, and at all levels - from ordinary workers and engineering personnel to business leaders,” Vladimir Putin said at the Security Council meeting on August 31 of the year 2012.

Forge frames for overseas


Previously, somehow I managed to plug this gap. Since the times of the USSR, a reserve of highly qualified scientists, specialists, engineers and workers, created before the economic reform was used in the defense industry. But this source has dried up: frames have grown old, retired and out of life.

High school fooling


There are also such multidirectional tendencies: along with the increasing requirements for qualification, the prestige of employment in the defense industry continues to fall, which is reflected in the critically low level of wages and social security. The outflow of young professionals, workers, scientists from the DIC is not stopped. According to the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), over three million specialists emigrated from Russia from 1992 to 2012 a year. By giving them an education, but not receiving a return, the state suffered serious damage. Meanwhile, the direct benefit of attracting one qualified specialist in the field of exact sciences and technologies ranges from 250 to 350 thousand dollars.

Russia has become a donor country that trains personnel at public expense for others. MIPT students, where the competition makes 30 – 40 people into place, are transnational companies buying before the end of the university. Among them, there are already Nobel laureates. The award of the Swedish Royal Academy of Sciences 2010 of the year in physics was awarded to Andrei Heim and Konstantin Novoselov. Both graduates of MIPT are currently working in England. The first is the head of the Manchester Center for Mesonaucics and Nanotechnologies, the second is the professor of the University of Manchester in Physics.

Russia's intellectual losses and the corresponding financial losses are enormous. The share of young workers of the most productive age (up to 35 years) in the MIC does not exceed the sociological threshold of 25 percent required to transfer experience and knowledge from the older generation. The aging of personnel - from leading specialists to workers - is celebrated both in production and in sectoral science.

Given the current financial and economic condition of a significant part of the defense industrial complex organizations, it’s impossible to solve the problem of securing young people without state support. Grants do not solve the problem. Task number 1 in this situation is to retain qualified personnel regardless of age. Ensuring continuity in both the scientific and industrial sectors of the military-industrial complex is the second task of state importance. But is it possible to solve them in the context of the ongoing privatization of defense enterprises? The defense capability of a country cannot fully depend on the aspirations (including political ones) of a private producer. He is primarily interested in maximizing profits, which does not always coincide with the interests of the state. Although, of course, the private sector can participate in the implementation of the state defense order.

Marked and the other extreme. For the concentration of technological, industrial, financial and human resources several years ago large state corporations were created. But they became monopolists in the creation of military equipment. This can lead to such negative consequences as reducing competition at the level of manufacturers of final samples, curtailing the defense companies' initiative to create new types of weapons, price dictate and encouraging supplies that state corporations need, but not the country's defense. And yet the main problem is in the existing education system.

Minister - winner of the competition


One of the solutions is to create conditions for a personnel employee of the military-industrial complex comparable to the financial and fuel-energy sectors of the economy. The government must finally realize that no one will lift us from sanctions, which is what Vladimir Putin is talking about. Have to live in isolation. Ten years before the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, Stalin said that we should have time to industrialize the country or crush us. Today is a similar situation.



Analysis of the staffing of the industrial and scientific sector of the defense industry shows: a delay in taking measures to reproduce qualified personnel in the near future will lead to the destruction of design and scientific schools. There are, of course, enterprises that, without waiting for decisions at the state level, themselves train personnel, purchase or build housing for young specialists.

These are, as a rule, the leading defense enterprises, they can find the means. But many simply survive. Therefore, measures are needed on the scale of the state, and above all at the legislative level, which is due to the economic situation and the difficulties that the defense industry complex is currently experiencing, including modernization ones. We need a regulatory framework that promotes the consolidation of specialists in the industry, more precisely, the federal law “On the Defense-Industrial Complex of the Russian Federation”. As a basis, you can take the Federal Law "On State Support for the High-Tech Industrial Complex of the Russian Federation."

The reforms have destroyed an effective systemic education focused on the development of the country, including the strengthening of defense capabilities. The continuation of experiments conducted from school through to vocational education may result in the complete loss of the national system of personnel training.

It is necessary as soon as possible to restore the high standards of Soviet education as a minimum program and only then proceed to other reforms based on positive national experience. This was discussed at the meeting of the Russian Union of Rectors, the proposal was supported by outstanding scientists who have an undeniable authority: Academicians J. Alferov, V. Arnold, J. Osipov, V. Sadovnichy.

The year of the destruction of systemic sovereign education in the Russian Federation was 2010, when commercialization of budgetary institutions began, and education and health care turned from a state duty into the service sector. The Ministry of Education and Science with enviable persistence continues the devaluation of the jurisdictional sphere, justifying its correctness by foreign experience. But the reckless copying of someone else's system, in particular the United States, is rather vivid evidence of the helplessness and incompetence of officials "from education and science."

The office of Dmitry Livanov refers to the methodology for assessing universities by foreign rating campaigns, in particular QS, TNE and ARWU. In accordance with this, institutions are divided into effective and inefficient. That is, the ministry unconditionally switched to the classification of our universities according to foreign ratings, which has become an end in itself. And the evaluation system that was in effect in Russia in the past century by the criterion of the demand for graduates by production has sunk into oblivion. Although the price of foreign ratings, we know. They are turned into a tool for manipulating public opinion and political pressure.

According to the Federal Program for the Development of Education in the 2016 – 2020 years, it is planned to reduce the number of universities by 40 percent, and their branches - by 80. MATI already merged with MAI. Specialized universities have joined the MAMI: evening metallurgical, chemical-technological, plant-technical college, branch of MISiS, open university. The absorption of the Institute of Geodesy and Cartography (MIIGAIK) and the road institute is being prepared. Thus, the specialization of universities, the effectiveness of which is proven by half a century and more experience, is eliminated. What is this if not purposeful destruction of higher education? But to justify the defeat, the international project “Global Education” is used, which was presented by a “round table” of European industrialists, uniting 47 of the largest corporations and UNESCO, as a model for the whole world. The goal is to turn education into a highly profitable business. Only instead of knowledge, competences and skills are approved - a commodity that merchants need, but not the state.

According to the “5-100-20” project, the national education system of the Russian Federation will be replaced by the 2020 year with a circle of universities, which should enter the world's best 100. To do this (under the terms of participation in the project “5-100-20”), the university must have a certain percentage of specialists, teachers and students from abroad, a third of the programs in a foreign language, publications in English in international journals. If you talk abstractly, it's a good thing. But all this, firstly, is planned to be planted in educational institutions, where top-secret works are being carried out in the interests of the country's defense capability. Secondly, the implementation of the projects “Education-2030” and “Global Future Education” will complete the elimination of national traditional schools by 2030, replacing them with global educational platforms. Obviously, the main goal of the “transformations” is to undermine the sovereignty and defense capability of the country.

What to do in this situation?


First of all, we need a presidential decree on the order of appointment to the post of Minister of Education. A candidate selected by an authoritative commission after compulsory publication in the media and public discussion of applicants' programs can take the position, each of them is obliged to provide a complete system for the restoration and development of the national school.

Tasks for the government


State authorities of the Russian Federation need to:

- to create the Ministry of Defense Industry;
- to develop and adopt the federal law “On the defense-industrial complex”, where to determine the monopoly state administration of the defense industry complex;
- to take property and finances in state corporations under state control;
-to reduce VAT rates, to abolish the collection of value added tax from advance payments under contracts of state defense orders;
-reduce land tax and property tax on defense enterprises;
- establish a zero rate of import customs duties on imported technological equipment and spare parts for it, which do not have domestic analogues;
- to exempt from the tax on that part of the profit, which is directed to the development and technical re-equipment of production;
-to reimburse enterprises interest rate on loans raised for the technical re-equipment of production;
- to develop and adopt regulatory documents that limit the shareholding of the state-owned defense industry for each type and class of troops to a specific limit, guaranteeing industry enterprises regular state orders sufficient for development and a decent level of remuneration of employees;
-to adopt the Federal Law "On Social Protection of Workers of the Military-Industrial Complex" with the establishment of a minimum wage and pension benefits not lower than that of civil servants (or extractive industries), the Federal Law "On social protection of faculty members", amendments to the Federal Law "On Education ”, aimed at reorientation from foreign ratings to training specialists in accordance with the requirements and conditions of economic development and the country's defense, the Federal Law“ On the state status of a teacher, teacher, employee ”, regulatory document on budget financing of education in state organizations in the amount of five percent of GDP;
- to establish a premium for scientific degrees to doctors and candidates of sciences working in the organizations of the defense industrial complex, to provide measures to ensure workers in the industry, including young scientists and specialists, with affordable housing;
- to set the salary of the faculty of universities in the amount of 7 – 12 minimum wage, depending on the qualifications and experience of teaching, teachers - not lower than 5 minimum wage;
- to provide for measures to provide scientific and pedagogical workers with affordable housing;
- introduce voluntary participation of universities in the Bologna process and single-level training of specialists (engineers) in technical universities in the field of defense industry;
-to consider the feasibility of organizing the Ministry of Education (with the separation of science in another department);
- introduce a system of benefits for young professionals in order to secure them in enterprises;
- to exempt from taxation incomes of educational institutions, reinvested in the educational process;
s-the Ministry of Education and Science of the practice of eliminating the specialization of universities and their association without public discussion in the media and the consent of the Council of Rectors;
to cancel for technical higher education institutions training specialists for the military-industrial complex the ranking of the projects “Education-2030”, “Global Future Education”, “5-100-20”, etc., focused on foreign standards;
- to attract the potential of business to the development of the material and technical base of educational institutions to provide for the inclusion of the relevant expenses of enterprises for these purposes in the cost of production with exemption from taxes;
- by the Resolution of the Government of the Russian Federation to introduce for students studying on a budgetary basis, contract training in technical universities and colleges, providing for mandatory internship at the enterprise for three years as an additional postgraduate professional education.


To the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation:

- along with the USE, introduce the final certification in the school in the traditional form with the participation of external examiners and provide graduates with the right to choose;
- introduce students to technical universities according to the results of entrance exams;
-To provide in the educational standards of technical secondary vocational educational institutions a two-level preparation: 1-level - the preparation of the worker, 2-level - the preparation of the technique;
- to introduce in the relevant educational standards for technical universities the receipt of a working profession by students during practice;
- to provide funding for the practice of students with the introduction of the provision on partial compensation for the costs of enterprises under this item;
-cancel per capita funding for technical universities at senior courses;
-to consider the feasibility of state accreditation of private universities;
- to provide for participation in the formation of basic educational programs and accreditation of educational institutions by representatives of industry unions and associations, large enterprises;
-organize the planning (forecasting) needs of employers, first of all enterprises of the military-industrial complex, scientific research institutes and the Russian Academy of Sciences in specialists of all levels and in accordance with this, introduce quotas for admission to educational institutions that train personnel for the defense-industrial complex;
-expand the list of specialties of higher professional education, confirmed by assigning the person with appropriate qualifications, in terms of training on the main types of production (technological preparation and implementation of projects, tests and test equipment, metrological, economic, environmental support of production) that meet the trends in the development of mechanical engineering.


For some, these measures may seem redundant, even revolutionary. But we must understand that the country is at the edge of the abyss. Time is working against us. Radical, decisive, fast methods of restoring the defense industry, which is the engine of the entire Russian economy, are needed.
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  1. +58
    April 27 2016 18: 30
    In the East they say: "If you want to defeat the enemy, bring up his children." And with our liberal government, there is no need for an enemy. Again, Eastern wisdom: Worse than a fool is not a very smart leader with ambitions (and power) .....
    1. +36
      April 27 2016 18: 49
      The reforms have destroyed an effective systemic education focused on the development of the country, including the strengthening of defense capabilities. The continuation of experiments conducted from school through to vocational education may result in the complete loss of the national system of personnel training.

      And all this is done for the sake of transnational capital, why does the capitalist need a thinking and educated worker, profit is important to him, and the worker should be just an application to the camp, drawing board or to a means of earning profit, for this, all sorts of exam are introduced, the system of vocational schools and technical schools is destroyed, all accountants and economists are welcome. But even Kennedy once said: "The Russians won in space because they won at the school desk."
      1. +31
        April 27 2016 19: 13
        Quote: vlad66
        And all this is done for the sake of transnational capital


        D. LIVANOV quotes:
        About paid higher education:
        As soon as we move away from universal free higher education, mechanisms will appear that will help attract valuable personnel to enterprises.

        About education reform:
        If, after 10-15 years, there is a public consensus, we can safely say that we have achieved the final result of the changes that are taking place today.

        About Russian science:
        I believe that such a form of organization of science in the 21 century is unpromising. What will depend on me, I will do so that this situation changes.
        A. Serdyukov about the army: ".... this is not a core asset"

        And who picks them up? Some special seedlings!
        And for Russia - an ambush!
        1. +16
          April 27 2016 23: 13
          We have been so established for many centuries that only the Sovereign solves all the most important problems. Today is Putin. Check out live coverage reports. Slightly live questions about serious problems will be voiced - immediately the report of the local governor on the operational solution of the problem.
          All this applies to education. No new frames. And it is not clear where they will come from under such a policy.
          Now people who are 70-80 years old are leaving. But the next generation of 40-50 specialists simply does not exist for years. Gone. Something to feed their families.
          I know what I'm saying. He himself resigned as head of the R&D department in 1995, after six months of work without a salary. When two of 52 employees remained.
          For reference - 49 inventions. Implemented: three - on board the "Cyclone", four - on board the "Zenith", twenty-four - on the stands during ground testing.
          So I know what I'm saying ...
          1. 0
            April 30 2016 19: 24
            All this applies to education. No new frames. And it is not clear where they will come from under such a policy.


            What do you really think that in our country it is possible to pursue such a policy in education without permission from above. After all, how many people and well-deserved people have tried to change something on this issue, and more than once and at all, without any exaggeration, events relating to both higher and secondary education. I’m not saying that the secondary special and vocational education has been practically destroyed, but that now it’s still working on its own, breathing without any prospects.
            At one time, she came to the Ministry of Education (but for some reason it seems to me that they were brought, judging by the results of their activities), as it is now fashionable to say, the dominant group cleaned everything up to the asphalt and that most importantly changed the arrangement of leaders to their supporters, therefore now even the change of one minister to another will not change anything. That is, a system has already appeared, and the system can be counteracted only in a revolutionary way. But the Russian Federation now has so many problems that today no one will undertake to correct the mistakes made.
            Remember at least an attempt to reform the Russian Academy of Sciences and the results.
        2. +3
          April 28 2016 09: 08
          Quote: nils
          And who picks them up?

          Yes, really, and hto does it pick them up?
          Who should be selected according to their positions, like this, without hiding anything, surname?
    2. -12
      April 27 2016 18: 51
      And it seems that the right things were written, if not for some nuances
      The government must finally realize that no one will lift the sanctions from us, as Vladimir Putin is talking about. Have to live in isolation.
      Apparently, the author has never listened to Putin, where he has already said many times that the sanctions will not be lifted, they were not imposed in order to lift them. And what kind of isolation are we talking about?
      But we must understand that the country is at the edge of the abyss. Time works against us. Radical, decisive, quick methods are needed to restore the defense industry, which is the locomotive of the entire Russian economy.
      Country at the edge of the abyss? And you look at the new developments of Russian engineers, scientists, etc. Is time working against us? It was the sanctions that broke the previous mechanism created by the West itself for the entry of life-threatening products into the Russian market. So the longer the sanctions are, the better. What other radical measures? Isn’t it about nationalization? We already went through this, nothing good came of it.
      1. +5
        April 27 2016 20: 15
        The existing higher education was created within the framework of the socialist economy and system. The goal was the development of Soviet man. Now a different system, a different economy and the existing system does not meet it. It is a fact. Industry and the economy need specialists, and those there and when the economy needs it. Our higher education does not supply the necessary specialists. By profession, few people work. request I am an engineer, a couple of people work from my group by profession, but the rest are not. But these are people who received a free higher education. Again, in many cases, institutions in the region trained specialists for specific large-scale industries. Production has collapsed, and institutions continue to train specialists for them. And in other regions, specialists are needed, but they are not. request So the change in the structure of higher education has matured. It must supply the necessary specialists and for this it exists. But what exactly and where to cook specialists can be determined only by having a long-term program for the development of industry. For example, a machine-tool cluster is being created in Ulyanovsk. So he will need specialists, and therefore the corresponding higher educational institutions.
        1. +5
          April 27 2016 21: 11
          Quote: g1v2
          a change in the structure of higher education has matured. It must supply the necessary specialists and for this it exists

          The impression is that you have not read the article, or read familiar words - but have not entered the essence .. Do you at least understand HOW EXACTLY now is education "reformed" ?! Nobody even thinks to take into account what you write about! The authors are against this approach!
        2. +1
          April 27 2016 21: 19
          The existing higher education was created within the framework of the socialist economy and system. The goal was the development of Soviet man. Now a different system, a different economy and the existing system does not meet it. It is a fact.


          hi Salam sober mind! Exactly so, it is impossible to pull the socialist ass on the capitalist face .... Here is an example of education in the PRC — fierce competition, despite paid education. A student selling hot breakfasts from the foam box in the crowd in a hurry to work is normal. I specifically wondered how much he was selling in half an hour. About one hundred yuan revenue. To reject costs, it remains 50-60, about $ 8. Only eat for a day, barely, in a big city. Parents from the village, with relatives pay tuition. The rest, with legs and feet. The arrival of an overseas professor is announced in half a year so that students have time to earn extra money for additional lectures. In China, a higher education is akin to buying an expensive tractor, buying a little, you must work on it effectively and make a breakthrough in your life. But here, many people blame some administrative measures, enemies, liberals, damn it, higher education under capitalism is not a gift from the state, which a lucky person can hang in a frame, but an expensive investment in himself. Who does not understand and cannot, a direct pointer and a hole between half-pops.
        3. +5
          April 28 2016 19: 19
          q1v2

          Do you already understand that capitalism or socialism is more progressive?

          By the way, the socialist education system in financial opportunities could afford to give an engineering education to a simple worker.

          I think this is more of a plus than a minus.
      2. +11
        April 27 2016 20: 36
        Vend

        Dear, you can be seen not in the know. ... you do not AT ALL to see how education and health care are being destroyed. ... I am a doctor, a wife at school. .. I know not by hearsay. ..and quietly bastard from your "optimistic" comment. ... should be ashamed. ..
        1. -1
          April 28 2016 09: 30
          Quote: vsoltan
          Vend

          Dear, you can be seen not in the know. ... you do not AT ALL to see how education and health care are being destroyed. ... I am a doctor, a wife at school. .. I know not by hearsay. ..and quietly bastard from your "optimistic" comment. ... should be ashamed. ..

          I have two brothers doctors, one dentist, another surgeon, so I also have an idea from the first, so to speak, hands. Education, I do lessons with my daughters every day, they didn’t ask me as much as they did. From first grade English, projects about Russia, etc. They are trying to create a system so that citizens pay for education, but are you aware that many of the guidelines are advisory in nature? How much to demand from parents is decided by the director. This is for example extended. Information is also first-hand. And you will shame your children. I quite adequately assess the situation.
          1. +5
            April 28 2016 13: 58
            Quote: Wend
            I have two brothers doctors, one dentist, another surgeon

            Found someone to compare! You would have attracted a plastic surgeon, as an indicator! And where does your esteemed brother work as a surgeon - in the regional hospital? Or in a small district? No offense to my brother, surgeons are not "arithmetic mean". But there are not many of them, if real.
            Concerning
            Quote: Wend
            I do lessons with my daughters every day, they didn’t ask me as much as they did. From the first class English, projects about Russia, etc.
            What grades are your daughters in? How do you yourself assess the level of assimilation of the material - honestly, in all honesty? And can you compare your own school knowledge with their level of knowledge? that is, do they KNOW - or "know" before the end of the current lesson?
            And the problem here is not whether capable or not very children - the problem is the thoughtless and unsystematic presentation of an unreasonably large amount of information!
            And now a nuance: what is studied in the classroom is a small part of what the children SHOULD KNOW! Not because the director "wants it or does not want it" - because the Federal State Educational Standard requires it! As an advanced dad, you know what that is. So, without forcing your daughters to poke around on the Internet for 3-4 hours, attention! - looking for information on the curriculum! - You don't let them get a quality education!
            And do not perceive this as an attempt to distort reality - this is the very Reality in which the education system exists today. Are you familiar with the term "Brownian motion"? smile So: the actions of the Ministry of Education now resemble precisely this chaotic and unsystematic confusion, according to the principle "just to create the appearance of active work"! and since there are no brains of our own, and without fresh ideas, they can be kicked off with kicks, it was decided to use the "Western experience" - without any attempt at comprehension, without reference to the realities of the day, without adaptation to the needs of society - it is simply called "beautifully, so the thing is good!" "
            And we have, as a result, agreeing with the statement that "Stanislavsky and Nemirovich" threw "Danchenko during the profit sharing", and that "It was not our man who flew into space first - however, I do not remember who was the first, but not ours!" Why should they know this? THIS IS NOT IN THE TESTS!
            Sorry, of course, for the emotions - it’s funny to read the statement
            Quote: Wend
            I quite adequately assess the situation.
            You have not seen a hundredth part of the iceberg in the problems of education - but declare that "truncated with a bunch!" hi
            1. +1
              25 May 2016 23: 46
              Hop, avia, great. ... I wouldn’t be able to write so well. .. :-)
              1. 0
                25 May 2016 23: 52
                Quote: vsoltan
                Hop, avia, great. ..

                I remembered that this is "HOP".
                Thank you soldier
          2. +2
            April 28 2016 19: 31
            Vend

            You are not aware of the difference between education and the education system.

            The education system is a system of state standards at all levels of education.

            It’s just that without systemic education it doesn’t connect the acquired knowledge into a complex. It turns out confusion. So the state plans to open advanced training courses or retraining, and the applicant brings evidence that he took 3 years of English, but no physics. This is what creates the problem.

            And loading a child with unnecessary, non-systemic knowledge is not an indicator. This hell knows what.
          3. 0
            25 May 2016 23: 44
            My children are quite grown-up uncles, they have their own children, so I can only shame you. ..and you, Wend. ... incomprehensible. .. kind of know everything about everything. ..Are you an incorrigible optimist?
      3. +7
        April 27 2016 21: 52
        show me the designs:) - I want to buy a Russian TV:) - I'm a patriot :) and the wife asks the Russian:) - and where are the domestic mobile phones? - even though I honestly thank you China - and provided the instrument with consumables for it and electro-nickname ... and the great ones and scooters, here I’ll take the Chinese car soon ...
        1. -1
          April 28 2016 19: 31
          show me the designs:) - I want to buy a Russian TV:) - I'm a patriot :) and the wife asks the Russian:) - and where are the domestic mobile phones? - even though I honestly thank you China - and provided the instrument with consumables for it and electro-nickname ... and the great ones and scooters, here I’ll take the Chinese car soon ...


          Do you think that Chinese TVs, washing machines and mobiles and so on were created by decision of the CCP? The Chinese government has regulated, just. Well, it provided jobs for leather dressing dissatisfied with these regulations, in numerous correctional facilities. The rest was done by people, with their labor, ingenuity, energy. Conduct an experiment, who in your environment wants to open their own business? And how many birds will make in response to you. It is ridiculously surprising that in Russia, which creates cumulative mixtures that burn through a meter of armor, they import from Latvia squibs for rescuers and emergency workers created in a semi-artisanal way.
      4. +4
        April 28 2016 04: 25
        It looks like Wend, with all due respect, you didn’t go through anything, and if you did, you’ve learned a weak C, in the form of vocabulary stamps. You are wishful thinking, unfortunately. The sanctions have not radically broken anything, since we are talking about them and if there is a possibility at all to impose them on us ... Imagine that Iran has imposed sanctions on the United States. Will the US notice them? Disconnect us from the global payment system and a lot about us will become clear, they do not do this only because it will prevent us from being robbed and weakened by the international financial system. Of course, having financed our military-industrial complex and military reforms, the country's leadership hopes to "grab onto one link and pull out the entire chain" ... But even here the old approaches are already ineffective ... the confrontation is moving into the intellectual, spiritual realm. The financial confrontation is not in our favor for a long time, we are already late for this train, the sooner we understand this, the faster we understand that running after it is useless.
        1. -1
          April 28 2016 09: 33
          Quote: oblako
          The financial confrontation has not been in our favor for a long time, we were already late for this train, the sooner we understand this, the faster we realize that running after it is useless.

          And you read foreign economists, maybe then something will become clear to you.
    3. +5
      April 27 2016 19: 20
      Quote: LevITon
      Again, Eastern wisdom: Worse than a fool is not a very smart leader with ambitions (and power) .....

      The East is big, everything can be attributed to wisdom, "a leader is worse than a fool," "a leader is a fool, a leader is a fool," etc., and so on.
      About "radical and decisive" Russian folk wisdom is - "you will tear your pants with wide strides," "measure seven times, cut one off," but institutions oriented towards the defense industry and international ones really cannot be mixed.
      1. jjj
        +2
        April 27 2016 21: 53
        A collage of two famous paintings does not evoke good emotions. I do not like Ilya Repin's work "They Did Not Expect" from an early age. But Fyodor Reshetnikov's "Two Again" is close and understandable from childhood. How many belts for deuces and got the most. And how many poor and strong C students there were in Soviet times. And the state was developing. It's not about school. And in relation to their country and to life
    4. +3
      April 28 2016 03: 10
      Quote: LevITon
      : Worse than a fool - not a very smart leader with ambition (and power) .....

      I heard differently.
      The "fool" is not so terrible, but the "fool" with initiative is terrible.
      1. SSR
        0
        April 28 2016 08: 24
        Quote: Sirocco
        Quote: LevITon
        : Worse than a fool - not a very smart leader with ambition (and power) .....

        I heard differently.
        The "fool" is not so terrible, but the "fool" with initiative is terrible.

        More dangerous than a fool is a fool with an initiative.
  2. +16
    April 27 2016 18: 35
    Who will allow it? The Naglosaxians have a global task - the eradication of intelligence in Russia. Cattle is more convenient to manage. And mine formation on the solid five is coping with this. While liberalism in the government - nothing will change.
    1. +12
      April 27 2016 18: 40
      The Ministry of Education has already strained all normal people in the country. For a long time to look at their "activity", it may be time to drive in the neck.
      1. +9
        April 27 2016 19: 25
        There is no need to drive in the neck and hang for her. This is obvious wrecking and nothing more. Stop mocking education and hacking social elevators. Do liberals think that having fulfilled the order for the collapse of Russia, the West will reward them. It will reward only the oligarchs with confiscation, and their kick in the lower torso.
      2. +1
        April 27 2016 19: 25
        There is no need to drive in the neck and hang for her. This is obvious wrecking and nothing more. Stop mocking education and hacking social elevators. Do liberals think that having fulfilled the order for the collapse of Russia, the West will reward them. It will reward only the oligarchs with confiscation, and their kick in the lower torso.
    2. +29
      April 27 2016 18: 55
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/552/xwqc938.png
      1. +19
        April 27 2016 19: 57
        Quote: sever.56
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          +9
          April 27 2016 20: 29
          The quotations of Katasonov and Arnold cited above in the comments show the essence of the problem that the authors of the article tried to show. It is unclear who the authors are turning to, apparently to the government, which purposefully pursues this policy. The question is HOW to solve this problem. Ministers will definitely not do this.
      2. +4
        April 27 2016 20: 45
        North 56! 18.55. Here Katasonov is right! Mowgli syndrome! A child brought up to 5 years old by an animal remains at the animal level. Be it an animal, a chicken or a dog, but this education is fixed for life. It is necessary to develop education in kindergarten with experienced educators, and not education with TV cartoons. Yes, and parents today especially have no time to deal with children. Money is sorely lacking and they have to live at work, and not deal with children.
    3. +3
      April 27 2016 22: 15
      Quote: vlade99
      The Naglosaxians have a global task - the eradication of intelligence in Russia.

      It seems that they themselves drew a similar problem.
      1. +4
        April 27 2016 22: 22
        Or for example:
  3. +9
    April 27 2016 18: 37
    The absent-minded oligarchy will never go to the events indicated in the "Tasks ..." section. The article is thoroughly correct, but the distance between the necessary level of development of the state and what is available is growing every year. The oligarchs have squandered the backlog left over from socialism, and the people nervously smoke on the sidelines, because they have no levers of pressure on those in power. M. b. Is it time for our "guarantor" to cut the thieves and turn their state attention to the pressing problems of the Russian Federation?
    1. +7
      April 27 2016 18: 42
      Quote: V.ic
      Is it time for our "guarantor" to cut the thieves and turn their state attention to the pressing problems of the Russian Federation?

      I'm thinking everything. if all the same everything is decided on the direct line of the president, then fuck this additional setting in the form of "proud" who do nothing (do not do for the good of the homeland, so they are busy) ministers and other "servants of the people" whom you cannot kick yet (with the foot of the "guarantor") will not fly ...
    2. -2
      April 27 2016 19: 10
      Quote: V.ic
      The article is right through and through, but the distance between the necessary level of development of the state and what is available every year is increasing

      Of course, right now it is just necessary to reduce taxes, because doctors, teachers, police, military and scientists of the same defense industry do not live with taxes. And of course, the authors of the article have proposed so many loopholes in taxes that if they are accepted no one will use them to avoid paying taxes. Of course, tax laws will be enacted that will warn in advance of all possible schemes for withdrawing money of dishonest people laughing . And of course, the authors calculated how much yachts and oligarch villas should be sold to increase the salaries of all those in need and at the same time reduce the tax burden on enterprises.
      Oh, and now there is a new tendency to count the salaries of top managers of state corporations, although I remember about five years ago on this site the Singaporean model of civil servants was praised (although they probably haven’t been on the site for a long time).
      In general, everyone knows what needs to be done so that the country develops, but oligarchs and other enemies of the people do not give the right people act.
      1. +2
        April 28 2016 05: 44
        Quote: MyVrach
        just need to cut taxes

        And where did I say this? Wear glasses and re-read my comment, if you find, then let me know. As for taxes, why are Abramovichs, Potanins, promissory notes, etc., etc. paid the same 13% as the mechanic Petya / Fedya / Sanya, etc., etc., why? As the "scribes" say there: to whom much has been given, much will be asked from that. That's just the demand from them ... in a word, some bribes, and even those are smooth.
    3. +1
      April 27 2016 21: 59
      Quote: V.ic
      M. b. Is it time for our "guarantor" to cut the thieves and turn their state attention to the pressing problems of the Russian Federation?

      laughing !!! ..
      That is, for so many years (!!!) he allowed thieves to create under his nose whatever they please - and then suddenly he "will see" and will begin to "wrap them up?! .. fellow
    4. 0
      April 28 2016 19: 10
      Chavoooo ??? Beat ours! (From an education ministry not expressed aloud)
  4. +1
    April 27 2016 18: 53
    Very many "scientists" having only compiled "works" with them have self-esteem inflated to heaven. They leave for the position of laboratory assistants, and are counted in statistics as young talents.
  5. 0
    April 27 2016 18: 56
    "Tasks for the government" - The author must personally refer to the government, but the problem will be that all this will take 10 years and it will be necessary to look for an additional trillion rubles to increase salaries by 10-12 minimum wages for teachers and other teachers - with a decrease tax collections to the treasury - and so in principle, everything is correct.
  6. +11
    April 27 2016 18: 59
    The author writes "from 1992 to 2012 over three million specialists emigrated from Russia", but over 20 million new specialists came to Russia
    1. +1
      April 27 2016 19: 02
      Well, among these "specialists" smart hard workers and scientists come across.
  7. +1
    April 27 2016 18: 59
    It is necessary to eliminate the mafia, which feeds in education and things will go smoothly.
  8. +10
    April 27 2016 19: 00
    This topic is probably of little interest to Putin. As he himself said: 100% satisfied with the work of the government and ministries.
    1. +2
      April 27 2016 19: 04
      This Putin meant work not in the country, but in offices.
  9. +24
    April 27 2016 19: 06
    For 2 years, China has produced more cement than the United States for the entire XX century. (4.9 gigatons, google yourself how much it is).
    - The length of the roads is 4 million kilometers.
    - 300 thousand bridges across the country, of which 1000 are more than a kilometer long. And until 2016, they will build a bridge from Hong Kong to Macau. To Macau! An hour of travel on a high-speed liner.
    - Over the year, the fleet increases by 20 million cars, and you can only enter Beijing in general if you are allowed to enter your license plate with the last digit.
    - Every year 100 airports are built. One hundred airports. A hundred. One hundred pieces. Count from one to one hundred and every time imagine the airport. Bam! Built.
    - Giant viaducts, 150 km long. Viaducts! Or, for example, a 28 km long tunnel.
    - A train from Guangzhou to Guiyang per hour drives 510 bridges and 236 tunnels at a speed of 250 km per hour.
    - For 30 years, the Chinese have increased the country's living space by 8 times! For a month now, Kent has been unable to find an apartment, and in China they are being handed out for free.
    - In 10 years, 220 cities in China will be with a population of more than 1 million people. How many of these cities will we have in 10 years?
    - And all these statistics are due to one simple figure. Since 2000, 10 officials have been executed in China ...
    1. +6
      April 27 2016 19: 22
      This is where in China apartments for free? There, for driving on the road for every kilometer 9 rubles; Yes, once in Hungary I got to the English-language Chinese channel, so I was stunned, I wanted to communism. And the real Chinese in London said yes, like in paradise. And by the way, the stream of executed is not something that is worn out.
      1. +2
        April 27 2016 20: 27
        19.22. Well, no matter how many patients are treated, but it does not become smaller. Refuse treatment? Still get sick! And the point of treating them !? So it turns out? winked
        1. +1
          April 27 2016 21: 41
          If treating and combating the disease, then the disease will disappear (smallpox)
          not getting smaller.
      2. -1
        April 27 2016 22: 04
        http://smartnews.ru/regions/blagoveschensk/14547.htmlвот вроде бы тут описано про китай...
    2. 0
      April 27 2016 19: 46
      free housing in China
    3. 0
      April 27 2016 20: 25
      The population in Russia is increasing, therefore, cities with a population of more than a million as there were 15 will remain.
    4. +1
      April 27 2016 23: 15
      Actually, it is necessary to produce .. let's say cement, exactly as much as it is needed, but not how much. As for China, its experience should have been used at least 15 years ago.
      -------------
      All statistics, executions ... Perhaps they can afford it.
      10.000 officials from 2 billion ...
      10.000 officials from ..?
      1. 0
        April 27 2016 23: 50
        The question of course is inter ..
        All statistics, executions.
    5. +2
      April 27 2016 23: 20
      you're very wrong - much more:
      "Over the past 12 years, 13 (!) Officials have been shot in China on charges of bribery, including the head of the city of Suzhou and the deputy mayor of Beijing, the vice speaker of parliament, dozens of ministers and governors. And last year, 000 Chinese government officials were arrested. Altogether, since the beginning of the reforms (160 years ago) ... A MILLION officials have thundered into prison.
      Translated into Russian, more than 10 000 people were arrested per month = more than 300 people per day ...
      "- And all this statistics is due to one simple figure. Since 2000, 10 thousand officials have been executed in China ..." - but here the message is incorrect. Such a frantic number of executed / planted does not affect the construction of everything you have listed, for exactly that if during the arrest of 300 (THREE HUNDRED !!!) people a day, officials continue to grab, knowing that tomorrow they will already be among those 300 - then this is ineradicable
      1. 0
        April 27 2016 23: 52
        How many thousand pluses do you have a cap?
        Such a frenzied number of executed / planted workers does not affect the construction of the whole
  10. +21
    April 27 2016 19: 08
    My patient said that his son, having graduated from Univer about 5 years ago, got a job in an ordinary St. Petersburg school as an English teacher. I escaped from there a year later. Firstly, the money was about nothing, and secondly, the old grymyzs in the teacher’s room ate him, that he had borrowed someone’s half-rate.
    P.S. I am 35 years old and I am the youngest in one of the departments of a fairly well-known medical institution (state) in St. Petersburg. We have an average age of medical staff - 58 years old !!!!! The salary is 2 times less than the average age ... what youth will go there? NOTHING is done to stimulate youth (read, succession of personnel) !!!
    1. +1
      April 27 2016 19: 37
      In England, if you are under the age of 40, you will not be given the right to practice on your own. True, they pay more.
      1. +1
        April 27 2016 20: 02
        you have doctors - dear people, rich. Well, on the other hand, your health care system is fundamentally different from ours. All reasonable countries invest a lot of money in medicine, this is not traditionally accepted in our country hi
        1. +4
          April 27 2016 20: 13
          Do not believe it-NHS in debt to the very same. Well, yes, the doctor is a highly paid profession (approx. 80 yew pounds per year). And all the same, English doctors all live in America. And in London, from my experience, one in traumatology was a Danish, and one was German. Now in the hospital, the doctor is a treating Israeli. That's how we live .. (he studied at the medical faculty).
          you have doctors - dear people, rich
          1. 0
            April 27 2016 20: 23
            Colleague! hi Wow ... and even from England .. do you work by profession now?
            1. 0
              April 27 2016 20: 27
              I did not finish my studies ... Now I work in transport. Now my wife says go study, but a lot of time is needed.
              Are you working by profession now?
              1. 0
                April 27 2016 20: 51
                Yes, and probably a lot of money? How much do I know a medical education in England is very expensive?
                1. +1
                  April 27 2016 20: 59
                  Almost free (paid by state credit) As in Latvia, it’s free, but something needs to be done. In Latvia then it was a problem, so I just drove off. Now I can allow it, but 10 years of study, again ... I have another project now. And in Latvia I won at chemistry Olympiads, and now I can make almost any chemical in the kitchen. As I boiled tear gas from the solvent on the balcony ..
                  Yes, and probably a lot of money
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  11. +3
    April 27 2016 19: 24
    ,,, daughter in the 8 class, teachers openly say, you don’t need a higher education, go away, conduct open lessons (with former students who graduated from the 9 class) ,,, how they are doing well and what they achieved without education crying
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    2. 0
      April 27 2016 19: 47
      Excuse me, I’m curious, but where (in which city) is such a strange campaign conducted? hi
      1. +2
        April 27 2016 20: 43
        ,,, Samara ,, hi
        1. +1
          April 27 2016 20: 53
          Eh..Samara- town..mda sad
          1. 0
            April 27 2016 21: 20
            ,, Samara always gets into all kinds of programs ,,,
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  12. +13
    April 27 2016 19: 28
    The article is correct, thoughtful, but absolutely divorced from the reality of life.
    Not that about which the authors argue.
    And the one in which they and we live.

    Is Livanov a generator of ideas and the formation of strategies?
    He was instructed to fulfill the instructions of others.
    If the ongoing pogrom, in another way, and you cannot say, secondary and higher, as well as the elimination of special education would not have been sanctioned at the "very top", then he would not have dared to lift a finger.
    And how many times deputies of the State Duma proposed to remove him from his post?
    But the mountain stood for him Medvedev. And GDP did not react in any way.
    Ask yourself - why?

    Education reform programs were not prepared in one day. And the legislative framework was adopted in more than one year.

    And now let's imagine everything reversed?
    How many years will it take?
    And whose image will suffer?
    Do they need it?
    In anticipation of the election.

    But everything needs to be changed dramatically.
    And the restoration of lost positions and collapsed education will take at least five years.

    So the cunning kids calculated everything correctly.
    While we wake up, while we stretch, while we realize - time has passed.
    And even today, taking and changing the entire leadership of the Ministry of Education and Science will only lead to a freeze of the situation.

    High school is thoroughly commercialized.
    The average is in line.
    And so we slide into the rank of brainless slaves.
    1. +2
      April 27 2016 21: 51
      Quote: demo
      And how many times deputies of the State Duma proposed to remove him from his post?
      But the mountain stood for him Medvedev. And GDP did not react in any way.
      Ask yourself - why?
      Bravo Bravo! good
      Quote: demo
      And whose image will suffer?
      Do they need it?
      Ahead of the election

      They don’t need it - but not on the eve of the elections, but because they DO NOT need it AT ALL. They just need graduates of the level that we have today, and better - even dumber!
      Quote: demo
      restoration of lost positions and ruined education will take at least five years.
      In my opinion, much more. Unfortunately .. Read the time of preparation of one specialist, from kindergarten to graduation. And this is subject to the involvement of teachers of the old school! .. hi
  13. +8
    April 27 2016 19: 31
    Well, it's good that my children managed to get an education, before the arrival of this half-naughty half-traitor! The case is for the grandchildren, and it infuriates !!! Although, it pleases the fact that he will die within 11 months and 9 days from cancer, in a painful form, with bulging eyes, in wealth, abroad, in tears, in the eyes of the senseless, and, municipal services will come to bury him. .. (well, I can't imagine that a "silicone with eyes" can have a wife, especially children ... belay !) I would like to give my grandchildren an education - the USSR-ovskoe ...! Dedicated to the blessed memory, "nauseous jellyfish" .... recourse In the hope of the President ....
    1. +4
      April 27 2016 19: 52
      Eka you, my friend, are upset .. everything will slowly return to normal, for there was nothing better and no better than the USSR-ov education.
      1. +5
        April 27 2016 20: 21
        In myself, I know! hi I'm not upset, but, it just pisses me off! Should I teach "sopromat" and "termekh" to my grandchildren at home ?! I do not want them to be "effective managers", but to be full-fledged, smart and self-confident Guys, and not "glamorous dolphins", with three "academies" and four "universities" at the age of 22 ... not distinguishing ...!
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        2. 0
          April 27 2016 20: 27
          Quote: ALABAY45
          I do not want them to be "effective managers", but to be full-fledged, smart and confident Guys

          What do grandchildren want?
          1. +11
            April 27 2016 20: 49
            Take it as a "power influence" on the younger generation, but I think they will understand me! Yes Upcoming trips (literally 1-2 weeks, on the eve of) on a PVC boat 4200 + 9,8 hp "Yamaha" with sleeping bags, a tent, rugs, axes, anchors, spinning rods, cans of stew, pearl barley porridge, leaf tea, condensed milk, first-aid kit, spinners, wobblers, poppers, leashes, spare spools, flashlights, smoke lamps, life jackets, cameras, spare socks, radio stations, knives for various purposes, different sizes of wobblers, cages, spare insoles, "anti-mite," chocolate, thermal underwear all the same, children) .. and the "grandfather's" buzzer on the clock, denoting "rise at 5-00" ... "Glamor", it seems, is not visible, I want to believe ...! I, grandfather "dictator" ?!
            1. +1
              April 27 2016 20: 52
              You organized it!? hi ,, no words, I was numb belay how in our time this is possible ,,, good good
            2. +2
              April 27 2016 20: 57
              You are a handsome grandfather))). My father never took me fishing .. I worked a lot not before me))) I didn’t find grandfathers, they left early ... You’re a grandfather a miracle)) hi
              1. +1
                April 27 2016 21: 01
                ,,, correctly, parenting ,,, my father always took time off from work for my birthday, went fishing ,,,
                1. +5
                  April 27 2016 21: 18
                  ... the muttering of the radio (sorry, there is no good old sounding r / s "Mayak"), sitting by the fire with the eldest grandson, the bottomless sky and snoring of the younger ones, the iridescent sound of the river, pike scales on the hands of the "elder" and a firm promise of a breaking basque and with dull eyes - "to wake up before everyone else" ... A camel blanket and flickering coals of a fire. What else is needed to calmly meet old age ?! I have achieved my goal ... !!!
                  1. 0
                    April 27 2016 21: 28
                    Sergey, brilliant !!! ,,, I have a lot of words, confusion ,, This must be felt, thanks hi
                  2. 0
                    April 28 2016 07: 20
                    listen to folk radio 612 khz (medium waves)
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            4. +1
              April 28 2016 07: 41
              Quote: ALABAY45
              hikes (literally 1-2 weeks, on the eve) on a PVC boat 4200 + 9,8 hp Yamaha with sleeping bags, tent, rugs, axes, anchors, spinning rods
              ngami, cans of stew, barley porridge, leaf tea, condensed milk, first-aid kit, spinners, wobblers, poppers, leashes, spare spools, flashlights, smoke lamps, life jackets, cameras, spare socks, radio stations, knives for various purposes, gardeners of various sizes , spare insoles, "anti-mite", thermal underwear, chocolate (after all, children) .. and a "grandfather's" buzzer on the clock, indicating "rise at 5-00" ... "

              Ff-u-uh ... what disgusting! To freeze in a sleeping bag ... to wash in the morning in a river or lake ... to slurp homemade fish soup (because they have eaten up the stew ... and the "tourist's breakfast" is over!) ... to collect fungi there, wild onions ... to steal fodder beets with kolkhoz field, and put it out in the fire ... You can also collect cattail roots (reeds, in a simple way), you can also bake it; wild garlic again, in the fall - mountain ash ... Bake fish in burdock (not every burdock is suitable for this! but the one without a "gun" on the back of the leaf, you can eat it ...) ...
              And also - on boats with oars, racing - at speed! ... and you can swim ... and who will dive further! ... Oh, beauty!
              No, disgusting, disgusting ...
        3. 0
          April 28 2016 07: 31
          Quote: ALABAY45
          ... The starter from the alternator is not distinguishing ...!

          ... generator - and de-generator! ...
          Find the difference ...
    2. 0
      April 27 2016 21: 45
      Quote: ALABAY45
      , it pleases the fact that he will die, within 11 months and 9 days from cancer, in a painful form, with bulging eyes, in wealth, abroad, in tears, in senseless eyes,

      ... belay Is it too much, namesake? Moreover, with the expectation of change
      Quote: ALABAY45
      In the hope of the President ....
      ??? Do you think there is something to hope for?
  14. +5
    April 27 2016 19: 47
    Some are tormented in doubt, trying to answer the question of why all this continuous for several decades, the reform of education, the exam and other Bologna things.

    People do not believe in themselves, do not want to see and hear what the authorities openly say and do (all the rascals, except the main rower in the galleys, he is just a genius).

    Authorities need a consumer, as Presidential Advisor Fursenko said, and not a creator, as before, if someone else thinks like they need brains in factories and institutes. Not needed, judging by their deeds.

    They need an even more fooled and not-thinking mass, which will gradually be reduced to naught, thanks to Russian medicine, leaving only 15 to 20 million servants in the pipe.

    They, as one blogger put it, "maggots", will receive a normal Western education and real advantages (other than money) over the rest of the rest of the population.

    Such is the struggle for existence. For their existence.
  15. +6
    April 27 2016 19: 53
    Dear, this reform arose with the good purpose of "modernizing the education of the USSR to meet modern requirements, as a result, the base of education itself was destroyed and something new, effective, so gentlemen, reformers are pulling all these systems, forms, etc. from over the hill. that have nothing to do with our requests and way of life, but officials have something to report on, that's why the whole mess with our education from kindergarten to professors, that's why our rockets have been and will fall, houses are falling apart, roads are falling apart
    1. -1
      April 27 2016 20: 33
      We have not a problem with education, but the fact that there are a lot of people who are lazy - those who do not want to study and the USE has shown this.
      1. +1
        April 27 2016 21: 38
        Quote: Vadim237
        We do not have a problem with education, but the fact that there are a lot of lazy people

        Complete nonsense.
        You, Vadim, as I understand it, are a relative of Onegin - for you think that you know EVERYTHING, albeit little by little, and somehow - but confidently evaluate events in any sphere, regardless of the degree of your involvement in it!
        IN CONNECTION WITH THIS, I HAVE A QUESTION: BASED ON WHAT RELIABLE KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION DO YOU MAKE SUCH STATEMENTS ABOUT THE LITTLE OF CHILDREN? And at the same time, obviously, you think that "everything is all right" with our education ?!
        1. 0
          April 28 2016 00: 15
          The results of the Unified State Examination show that academic performance primarily depends on the person's desire to learn - either you study or you do not study.
  16. +4
    April 27 2016 20: 04
    For education to be valued, it is necessary that salary managers are not valued higher than engineers, technicians, and skilled workers. And now any ordinary manager of any boutique has more in his wallet. And in the field of education, the Russian Federation is already losing - children are not taught at school, but trained to require simple memorization without understanding what they are taught. Hence the transition to a defective exam, the results of which do not show at all what the former student is capable of, because you only need to clearly memorize the answers to the questions and do not necessarily understand the subject. And consumer society - ideal for transnational corporations - does not need more. As they say - you need to eat with your head, and not think. Our Ministry of Education successfully copes with such a task! hi
  17. +5
    April 27 2016 20: 04
    Just as a reason for reflection - the people who will be elected today are talking about poor education, but, mind you, for all the time you have been in the Duma, they have never made at least a resolution on changes to the education system. And this applies to ALL fractions! why educated techies - we need managers with super-efficient managers, such as Chubais. A dumb herd of managers who only read 2 pages of management textbooks from all education (1 of them is the cover :)))), you can hang on your ears any fantastic projects that require fantastic money - no one will understand anything. And there is no demand for the result of activities in our country ...
    1. +4
      April 27 2016 20: 58
      Quote: Jackking
      Just as a reason for reflection - the people who will be elected today are talking about poor education, but, mind you, for all the time you have been in the Duma, they have never made at least a resolution on changes to the education system. And this applies to ALL fractions!

      Offhand. January 27, 2016, Communist deputies led by G.A. Zyuganov presented in the State Duma a new law "On Education for All." And this is not the first attempt even in the last 5 years. Cut-s. Guess which party?
    2. +2
      April 27 2016 21: 31
      Quote: Jackking
      for all the time they have been in the Duma, they have never made at least a resolution on changes in the education system.

      Here you are mistaken, dear: attempts were made repeatedly. But in the Duma the same people "rule" as in the government - and therefore all attempts of the deputies on the topic of reorganization of the Ministry of Education are choking in the bud, not getting into the agenda.
  18. +6
    April 27 2016 20: 10
    Quote: 31rus2
    this reform arose with the good purpose of "modernizing the education of the USSR

    The right words! In our education, one FUNDAMENTAL source was laid down - the ability to THINK .... not to stupidly put checkmarks on tests, as laid down in the Amer system, but to think, draw conclusions, state your vision of the subject, generate your ideas, introduce new things into what seemed would be an anachronism. I will open a new world for you, saying that many things used in medicine as the latest technology were invented in the USSR. For example, an apparatus for stitching the intestine (such as a stapler), filtering apparatus for blood ... yes, a lot of things. Today we use our own designs performed by the West ... and pay them for it
    1. +1
      April 28 2016 08: 02
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Quote: 31rus2
      this reform arose with the good purpose of "modernizing the education of the USSR

      The right words! In our education, one FUNDAMENTAL source was laid down - the ability to THINK .... not to stupidly put checkmarks on tests, as laid down in the Amer system, but to think, draw conclusions, state your vision of the subject, generate your ideas, introduce new things into what seemed would be an anachronism. I will open a new world for you, saying that many things used in medicine as the latest technology were invented in the USSR. For example, an apparatus for stitching the intestine (such as a stapler), filtering apparatus for blood ... yes, a lot of things. Today we use our own designs performed by the West ... and pay them for it

      Recently I found out - it turns out, the prototype of "Holter" - they put it on me every month (an apparatus for daily monitoring of cardiac activity, daily ECG) - foreign to the limit, right down to software, a thing - invented in shaggy years in Russia! ...
  19. +2
    April 27 2016 20: 12
    High school fooling

    All of this is already understood, and the vector of changes remains the same ...
    Russia is firmly stuck in the tentacles of our "partners"
  20. +3
    April 27 2016 20: 12
    The worst thing is that the creation of a "nation of consumers" (ie fools) and the destruction of the "nation of creators" continue. A whole generation of "managers" was raised with the help of "perestroika" in the school, and the city of Livanov is the worst enemy of the Russian people.
    1. 0
      April 28 2016 08: 03
      Quote: esaul1950
      Well, Mr. Livanov is the worst enemy of the Russian people.

      ... Good! .. good enemy! He smiles often ...
  21. +2
    April 27 2016 20: 39
    Quote: esaul1950
    The worst thing is that the creation of a "nation of consumers" (ie fools) continues

    And this nation will not be soon, they will be replaced by migrants from Asia and the Caucasus who already occupy almost all jobs and specialties that do not require serious preliminary training, namely builders, drivers, janitors, housing and communal services, clothing, cashiers and other trade workers, and so on. Plus, they usually have large families, and in 30 years they will not recognize Russia (although today Russia does not look so hot No. ), Europe is destined to have the same fate.
  22. +5
    April 27 2016 20: 58
    Take and study with Canada. If a person has a tower, then the decision on granting a residence permit is almost decided. If there are children, then something else +.
    And now we are looking at Russia. 90% of the garbage from the countries of the former USSR that couldn’t even settle in their own country is traveling. Why do we need such migrants?
    I don’t even want to write about education, it’s just a problem to recruit young people who will not be late and a little Mayish.
    1. +1
      April 27 2016 21: 09
      Only if the tower is confirmed and included in the register of necessary professions.
      a person has a tower
    2. 0
      April 28 2016 08: 15
      Quote: APASUS
      And now we are looking at Russia. 90% of the garbage from the countries of the former USSR that couldn’t even settle in their own country is traveling. Why do we need such migrants?

      Not always!
      A migrant can be a person who has simply not got along with the local-republican, almost certainly nationalist-oriented - leadership! ...
  23. +7
    April 27 2016 20: 59
    The Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation should be recognized by court as an organized criminal group (organized crime group), whose activity is aimed at undermining Russia's sovereignty and national security !!! The only way! With all the ensuing consequences ... Otherwise, a complete technological, military-technical, economic and social collapse of the state will occur. Russia will fall apart without firing a shot - only due to the complete destruction of education in the country. Today the country is catastrophically falling into the abyss thanks to the implanted "education" ...
  24. vmo
    +2
    April 27 2016 21: 04
    The fact that education at 2 is a fact is difficult to argue with, the question is why the marine college student needs Bulgakov’s deep knowledge (Master and Margarita), but at the same time they don’t know about Tolstov, Rozhdestvensky, Pushkin, Lermontov, they don’t know when the Second World War began and when it ended war of 1939-1945 And that the Soviet Union won in it.
  25. -1
    April 27 2016 21: 25
    presidential decree on the competitive process of appointment to the post of Minister of Education. The position may be taken by a candidate selected by an authoritative commission after the mandatory publication in the media and public discussion of the programs of applicants, each of them is obliged to present an integrated system of restoration and development of the national school.
    It won't do anything. "Authority Commission" ??? AND WHO IS THIS? "WHO WILL BE WATCHED BY THE GUARDIANS" ?! And who will determine the authority of the commission members? wassat
    "Public Comment"? WHO will take into account its results? AND HOW? The same way as the votes in the elections are counted? laughing
    The Minister of Education should be appointed by the head of state. And ask him personally - and not as a member of the government! And not in the number of rubles in the salaries of employees to measure the success of the university - but in the amount of positive feedback from enterprises in which graduates work!
    I’m silent about schools in general - God forbid they have time to finish off with all the bureaucratic carts that the Ministry of Education put on them through near-educational bureaucratic institutions!
    And the main action required is the removal from power of the fucking "EdRa" - without the right of its members to run across "under the roof" of the opposition parties now, in order to preserve the seat! It is high time for them to wipe themselves off, to give way to others, to purge the party, to admit mistakes and miscalculations, to re-type the Program .. SHAME, NOT THE PARTY! And it is she who breeds such "wunderkinds" as Livanov and others like them. Well, what else can we expect from a political organization headed by Aifonchik? .. request
  26. 0
    April 27 2016 21: 25
    Nothing can be changed without destroying the destroyer. Unfortunately, the fifth power in the state has long been sung by someone else's do-do. And the first - (education, medicine, transport, resources, science, finance, justice) are they controlled by whom (s)?
    Prove that only our president !!! ???
  27. +3
    April 27 2016 21: 36
    As long as managers control the country, Russia will degrade.
    The management system imposed in the 90s was aimed at making a Western colony out of the country.
    And a perfect mechanism of destruction of everything that made the country strong was introduced.
    The destruction of the country was guarded by pro-Western effective managers who cut down all the sprouts of common sense and guard the interests of the country's colonization.
    The article raises the issue of personnel in the defense industry. How can it be solved if one of the pillars of the current economy is ensuring high income for companies through low wages? On a straight line, Putin was asked about the delay in salary at the enterprise performing a defense order! Those. the state finances, and the company does not consider it necessary to pay people work; effective managers need to play on the stock exchange, withdraw money abroad, but people do not need to pay labor. And, mind you, Putin did not properly respond to this disgrace. He did not notice that the finances allocated by the state are not used for their intended purpose, that it is a crime against the state. A decent salary paid on time is an incentive for the development of the country's economy, the form of tax revenues to the budget and increased demand.
    Of course, this attitude towards working people leads to the fact that specialists go to places where they will be adequately paid for their work-west.
    The West has triple benefits:
    1) receives highly qualified specialists trained at the expense of the budget of the Russian Federation
    2) gets the opportunity to develop modern technologies for the sale and development of their own economy, and the Russian Federation, these technologies simply will not be sold, even at a high price, because they do not need a partner in the person of Russia. They want to see good-looking managers selling state-owned companies at a loss — they recognize them as the best financiers and economists and reward them.
    3) deprives the ability of the Russian Federation to develop industry, i.e. weakens the Russian economy.
    We have nothing to oppose, because there are no specialists at any level in the government of the country — managers everywhere who successfully follow instructions to weaken the country. And they don’t even hide it. There is a speech in the network by Gref at some forum where he speaks absolutely frankly - the people should be limited and uneducated.
  28. +6
    April 27 2016 22: 08
    He went from being a cadet, student, engineer, graduate student and in 1965 after graduating from LIAP in 1963 he defended his thesis. Closed topic - automation of fighter landing. Then the work of Ch. Designer, Deputy. Head of NII-33, and since 1979, Head of the 6th State University of the USSR Ministry of Radio Industry. Yes, before that he defended his doctoral dissertation and became the Laureate of the State. Prizes of the USSR. At the moment, Scientific Secretary of the Research Institute. Head of the department (basic) at the University. The salary of the head of the department is 20 thousand rubles, the engineer at the research institute of the military-industrial complex is accepted for 30-25 thousand rubles. Doctors have a bonus of 3 thousand rubles. We could not even dream such a disgrace with the training of personnel and equipping our enterprises with personnel in a terrible dream. But all that we created: technical colleges, special universities, training courses for workers, vocational schools are a thing of the past. If we don’t think it over, we’ll lose a lot, if not all. I have the honor.
    1. 0
      April 28 2016 00: 28
      Now the practice has begun - the enterprises themselves train the specialists they need using their equipment.
  29. +7
    April 27 2016 22: 17
    Yes, I have not participated in discussions for a long time, BUT today's "automatic failure" with the first rocket launch on "Vostochny" and this article about the Higher School stirred up even my old teacher ...
    And so, about the topic of the article:
    1. Firstly, it is impossible to "quickly" return back the "Soviet" level of training of schoolchildren, because the material level of their parents now depends not on the "great working class or engineering class", but on the "entrepreneurship of a great businessman", etc. - This is a child learns from kindergarten, when he sees what car his parents drive up to each of them .. .From here - the Purpose of life - to become (!) A banker, mayor, in one word "buy and sell!"
    2. The destruction of the Soviet system began with "perestroika"! - from the "democrat" fool .... He was cheated from the very first days of communist disarmament ... When the young and inexperienced generation snapped up on "Pepsi" and "gum" .... and so on.
    3. It took 20 (twenty) years of DECOMPOSITION! ...... There were swindlers, and ... and drunks, and the whole world around us "applauded" and wondered: "How long will we last?"
    4. And only since 2000 (!) We began to realize - to what we have sunk! ... And now, according to ONLY 15 (fifteen) YEARS! the author weeps over the "collapse" of the higher school? In vain! Don't panic, sir! Do not think that now everyone jumped and threw up their pants and rushed along the "strictly defined course of knowledge."

    We broke and scattered stones quickly, and now collect them ... Not all at once ....
    "Yes, and Moscow was not built right away!"

    Sorry, the old teacher, maybe I couldn’t paint more accurately .... yes, it would probably be clearer in words. hi
    1. +1
      April 27 2016 23: 35
      I will support-shouting "Turn back the Soviet" is great, easy and simple ...
      It is much more difficult - if not impossible at all - to explain to the child that he should work at the plant at the machine .. And let the salary of the worker be even three times higher than the manager's one, it is quite possible to hear the answer - "he does nothing but has everything." ..
      Everyone who was born after 1980 is a lost generation, it's too late to cry for them, it's too late, and they have already taught their children: "Only complete goofs go to vocational schools to study" (although I heard this slogan already in the 70s) ...
      1. 0
        April 28 2016 00: 20
        "Everyone who was born after 1980 is a lost generation" - You are talking about yourself.
        1. 0
          April 28 2016 07: 49
          no alas wink
          about those who the USSR found in the region from 0 to 10 years, they just don’t know him, they already had a different education, in principle, NOT Soviet but capitalist
    2. 0
      April 30 2016 22: 42
      Quote: morpod
      Don't panic, sir! Do not think that now everyone jumped and threw up their pants and rushed along the "strictly defined course of knowledge."
      Why "think"? It is so indeed. And the course to "stupefy" the education system was taken just at the beginning of the new century - and not in the 90s, when the Soviet school was still strong and the teachers were professionals. Mr. Fursenko was the first to clearly demonstrate how it is possible, with the help of administrative resources, to drive education to a dead-end branch of development! And where is he now? .. Right. Because tovarisch proven and "your". And he executed the instructions of the manual, it turns out, competently and accurately!
      And where do you get optimism, Vasilievich? what Do not share? I would like to believe in a brighter future! ..
      Quote: morpod
      We broke and scattered stones quickly, and now collect them ... Not all at once ....
      And here, neither diminish nor add - this is an axiom, in principle, and it applies to any of the aspects of life. BUT! One small clarification: to collect the scattered stones, you must STOP THROWING THEM, and really start collecting! In our country, for the time being, they are limited only to promises .. however, they are very active in the last couple of months wassat - but what about: elections on the nose! And all polls say WELL VERY CORRECT words! Only no one can answer a simple question: WHAT, FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, did you SEE THIS AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND ?? .. hi
  30. +1
    April 27 2016 22: 57
    Thank. Analytics is fundamental!
  31. +2
    April 27 2016 23: 33
    Quote: LevITon
    In the East they say: "If you want to defeat the enemy, bring up his children." And with our liberal government

    Your liberal government has clear instructions from Capitol Hill and Langley, and again from Brussels and the City. Everything is going as it should. But when it started ... In 1970, somewhere in August, my brother and I spent the night in an outhouse, drank Pliska for 5.50, listened to Voice of America and Radio Luxembourg.
    “And in twenty years there will be no USSR! And there will be no communists!” Gena said.
    I was outraged. But Gena stubbornly insisted on this, referring to his friends - underground millionaires and shady business tycoons. Even then, plastic wagons went to underground factories, and modest owners owned millions of herds, plantations, slaves ... "But this is not in our area!" - Comrade Saakhov would say.
    It was at this time that Chubais hysterically hated school, the homeland and the people. Then he began to put it into practice.
    Whom did he bring to power? "We do not abandon our own!"
    And such Chubais, Grefs, Kasyanovs, Kasparovs, Nemtsovs were and still are legion. And everywhere!
    Swamp, shaking. "Boyars, bastards ...".
    "And our people are good! People ..."
    So, don't worry about education: "This leg ... of the one who needs it, the leg!"
    1. VP
      0
      April 28 2016 06: 02
      Jump with a tire, feel better, say - a proven remedy
  32. +1
    April 28 2016 00: 05
    Before breaking the old, you need to create a new one,
    otherwise you will find yourself among the ruins.
  33. +1
    April 28 2016 02: 34
    For youth, housing, social services and salaries.
    If you just raise the RFP, then prices will rise after it.
    In general, ideally, everything should be in cashless form.
    I would also add a training and retraining system for the "man from the street".
    What would those who at one time left the enterprise or decided to try
    himself at the enterprise, was able to come and learn.
    By the way, according to the RFP, it should be paid without delay,
    otherwise you will not wait for specialists.
  34. 0
    April 28 2016 03: 08
    In us in Rostov, the only specialized construction university in the south was attached to DSTU. About which they usually say, you can’t go anywhere to DGT, in short a vocational school with a university diploma.
  35. VP
    -1
    April 28 2016 05: 59
    That is all nonsense.
    Many defense enterprises experience an acute shortage of qualified personnel.

    The problem is not the lack of qualifications, but the banal disadvantage of working at these defense enterprises. Hence the disadvantage.
    There would be a substantial increase in salaries - they would rush. And contests in universities for technical specialties would increase dramatically.
    A graduate with a well-functioning head prefers to go where, after graduation, he may have a prospect not of 25 thousand but much more. And then at least reform.
    The same thing happened with military schools until the military did not raise their prestige and salaries.
  36. +1
    April 28 2016 06: 16
    An article from the series "fsiyo is gone!"
    In fact, "the rumors about my death are somewhat exaggerated" (c). I am seeing a sharp increase in production in the aviation and related fields. I see requests for personnel of different levels in these industries. I see a rise in salaries. In some places, low salaries of 20 thousand are preserved, which fsiepropalschiki like to poke at all forums and pass off as ubiquitous (and there are enough of them, even in uniform)), but almost everywhere they start from 50.
    Livanov, of course, must be hanged, but where is the analysis of good innovations in the article? And they are, and there are many of them! I know personally. Conclusion: the article was written by a stupid little man or on order.
    There are problems of growth, there are problems of cadres, which cannot fail to be with growth. They need to be addressed.
    For shouts, like the author's, "fisiyo is gone" should be hung on the nearest branch.
    All. Dot! Work s.ukiny children !!! No time to whine!
  37. 0
    April 28 2016 06: 34
    Quote: g1v2
    Industry and the economy need specialists, and those there and when the economy needs it.

    Higher education, secondary specialized institutions and vocational education are simply obliged to work closely with potential buyers of their product, on order (at least individually), then there will be no surplus of some specialists and an acute shortage of others. And these are the tasks of the Ministry of Labor and the Ministry of Education, they are simply obliged to conscientiously work out their bread and not pick their noses. It is necessary to cook Specialists, and not plankton according to the principle - "we all learned a little, whatever, and somehow" (these only for the grandmother !!!).
  38. +1
    April 28 2016 07: 42
    With Minister Livanov, everything is clear for a long time even for his party members, who kicked him out of the United Russia military forces! But look at the interview with V. Takmenev Fortov - everything will become for you with science and education FULL ALES !!! By the way, the "fire technologies" of Fortov-Pivovarov have already been "successfully" tested in the Ministry of Medinsky's cult by his deputies ?! As the saying goes, "one gang - a watering can" of intelligent, educated, liberal cultural views - officials, corrupt officials and embezzlers! "Here are your people! Prisons and baths, a miracle of art - he dragged everything around!" "I'm not talking for you, but for Vanya"? But the general did not give an objection ... "Who lives well in Russia" (Nekrasov). Almost 200 years have passed, and in Russia "all the same in the arena"! And the trouble (DDD) is the same - there are many Fools, there are no Roads, no Money? Again for the ax? Is this what we wish for our children?
  39. +2
    April 28 2016 07: 46
    I was already tired of spitting on this topic, as a young man I worked in a supplementary education system then in DOSAAF, in principle, no difference, so they began to ruin education slowly from the mid-80s.
  40. 0
    April 28 2016 08: 34
    Not by washing, so by skating, Anglo-Zionist capital is trying to drive Russia into the Stone Age through its agents of influence, such as the Lebanese scum. And I must admit, they succeed very well in this option. Young people are debilitating more and more every year, and the percentage of sensible ones is steadily decreasing. An indisputable fact!
  41. 0
    April 28 2016 09: 45
    So sick of reading this that you no longer want to comment in normal language.
  42. 0
    April 28 2016 10: 12
    Actually, it looks like it's too late. For example, in one university (where I worked until retirement), the name of which includes the word "state", the average age of the teaching staff is 65 (!) Years. Many scientific schools simply ceased to exist.
    The author here is suffering about the military-industrial complex, but in modern society everything is too closely intertwined. And who will treat these highly educated young professionals ??? Who will teach their children ??? Etc. etc....
    It’s time to admit that in the field of education we have slipped into a deep dupa, and even if extraordinary efforts are now made (as it was in the 30s of the last century), we will be able to get out of this dupa (if at all, with modern growth rates volume of knowledge) not earlier than after 50 years.
  43. 0
    April 28 2016 19: 53
    To the author.

    It’s great that in addition to criticism, you are making concrete proposals. You can rate your suggestions more likely to a person familiar with the subject. But if you walk superficially, then immediately there were doubts in total. Something a lot of administrative work.

    There is another suggestion.

    The state should monopolize the labor market.

    Technically, this is done by obliging the employer to transfer the salary of the worker to the state balance. And it is the state that will already issue the wage to the worker.

    What will it give?

    The difference in salaries should not exceed 3 times.

    Statistics by profession.

    One stable domestic market. Possibility of planning the sale of products of entrepreneurs at various levels.

    Social guarantees for workers.

    And the most important thing is that in such a situation it will be appropriate to create an education system. Because there will be statistics about the workers of the resource and the possibilities for their retraining.

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