In the US Army began testing the Israeli system of active protection of armored vehicles

The ground forces and US marines have begun testing the Israeli active defense system (SAZ) of the Trophy equipment, reports Popular Mechanics.

“SAZ Trophy was developed by the Israeli defense company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. It is designed to protect military equipment from missiles and shells. Trophy includes a radar station, a control computer and two self-loading launchers. The system provides 360-degree protection: as soon as the radar detects a flying missile, the computer calculates its trajectory and gives the command to the launchers to destroy the projectile ", - said in a statement.

The installation shoots metal balls into the flying rocket that destroy the target. But first, “as a humane alternative, the system tries to knock the rocket off the path by turning on the interference for the radio signals that control the projectile.”

“By the way, the Trophy is the only active defense system adopted for service and used several times in combat. Now the Israeli Pentagon is seriously interested in Israeli development, ”the resource writes.



As part of the test program, the Americans rented 4 test kits from the Israelis, which are installed on Tanks Abrams and Stryker armored vehicles.

Comments

[Aaron Zawi]

Oh ball If you like it, a decent contract can take over.

[Samaritan]

A contract with you? Good luck

[V.ic]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

If you like it, a decent contract can take over.

That's it ... and it will be covert sponsorship by the States of Israel.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Samaritan

A contract with you? Good luck

Quote: V.ic

Quote: Aron Zaavi

If you like it, a decent contract can take over.

That's it ... and it will be covert sponsorship by the States of Israel.

Firstly, why not? Secondly, why is it hidden? Regular procurement contract.
If KAZ is really good, and the Americans themselves could not do better, then why not ..?
Reasons for indignation, I do not see at all. Some honestly made and sold, while others thought about buying. What are we making noise?
And - the fact that the "coffin - Abrash" has long been in need of serious modernization in the field of protection is a fact.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: V.ic

it will be covert sponsorship by the states of Israel.

go nuts logic. A neighbor eats at McDonald's, covertly sponsors, a parasite, American TNCs ...

[vladimirw]

is not it so?

[inkass_98]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

a decent contract can take over.

[jjj]

They can’t come up with something decent in the States

[Maxom75]

Israel is now the world's foremost start-up country. So instead of wanting to throw mud at Israel, our leaders would not hurt to study the experience and apply it in Russia and be sure to establish cooperation with Israeli technology centers and research institutes, and not build Khrenolkovo and not pour money into Rusnano, the costs of which are colossal, but consideration results need a nuclear microscope.

[godofwar6699]

Oh yeah ........

[godofwar6699]

Iron curtain demo

[iouris]

Of course, you can't "invent" everything. But almost everything that appears in the world in the field of technology almost immediately becomes the property of the US government.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: godofwar6699

Trophy on Abrams.

Where?

[godofwar6699]

layout......

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: godofwar6699

layout......

I see here.

[godofwar6699]

it looks good

[HK416]

and what is the supply of missile defense in a tank kit?

[fox21h]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Oh ball If you like it, a decent contract can take over.

It will be interesting to compare the performance characteristics with our similar systems.

[MACCABI-TLV]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Eh ball. If you like it, a decent contract can take over.

it was necessary to give them an "iron fist" (iron fist), let them choose one out of 2. In any case, whatever they don't choose, then ours!

[NAV-STAR]

The United States rented 4 sets of active protection for the tank for its needs, while Israel can rent the US Army for its needs. Every joke has a fraction of a joke.

[CHILD]

... well after so many videos of burning Abrams ... no wonder ...

[Cananecat]

Heh ... and ours have already figured out how to get around such a system?

[Alexez]

I suspect that "our" invented this system)))

[Engineer]

There is no research institute or design bureau in Israel where one could not hear Russian speech. A lot of talented engineers, graduates of our technical universities, employees of research institutes and design bureaus during the years of perestroika and the collapse of the Union went to live and work in Israel with such a wealth of knowledge.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Engineer

There is no research institute or design bureau in Israel where one could not hear Russian speech. A lot of talented engineers, graduates of our technical universities, employees of research institutes and design bureaus during the years of perestroika and the collapse of the Union went to live and work in Israel with such a wealth of knowledge.

In Israel in general, there are not many places where one could not hear Russian speech ...

[Maxom75]

that's why we support the Palestinians? ((

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Engineer

There is no research institute or design bureau in Israel where one could not hear Russian speech. A lot of talented engineers, graduates of our technical universities,

It seems to me that GI has long and successfully forged personnel in its own universities.

[prosto_rgb]

came up with
but only for grenade launchers
and nothing is known about their deliveries to the troops

[tilovaykrisa]

Yes, they’ve come up with it like a couple of years, on the basis of a regular border like a fly 2 charges one to activate the second to break through here is the current in the aircraft or is still not accepted.

[Mountain shooter]

Maybe theirs "Abrams" will really become less vulnerable? Only ours have already prepared a "Hook" with double ammunition (bicaliber)!
So we will "look". "Vampire" is also good, but you need to shoot in pairs - RPG-7 and a little later - "Vampire". It is clear that it is more difficult, it is clear that security is getting better - but ...

[Alexez]

Ka-50 and BMP-3 with "Whirlwinds" and "Cornets" - Rosoboronexport commercial)))

[Barakuda]

By the way, Trophy is the only active defense system that has been adopted and has been repeatedly used in combat

The first was the Tula "Drozd" in 1983, put into service, which managed to fight in Afghanistan on the T-55AD.

[Gvas1174]

Recently I watched a video where the "Merkava" is blown up from pturov. Two or three rollers. Moreover, the protection system was there.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Gvas1174

Recently I watched a video where the "Merkava" is blown up from pturov. Two or three rollers. Moreover, the protection system was there.

If this video is from Lebanon in 2006, then "Trophy" could not be there.

[Sly]

The Israelites have good protection, it is a pity that the Americans finally noticed her and she will move to them ...

[Dali]

Quote: Sly

The Israelites have good protection, it is a pity that the Americans finally noticed her and she will move to them ...

Maybe a good one, or maybe nothing and they can handle it calmly, an interesting analysis:

http://anna-news.info/node/48180

In general, with the help of a large-caliber sniper rifle without problems and with a "windbreaker" understand ...

[Professor]

Quote: Dali

Maybe a good one, or maybe nothing and they can handle it calmly, an interesting analysis:

"Analysis" has been taken from the site of "Alternative History".

Quote: Dali

In general, with the help of a large-caliber sniper rifle without problems and with a "windbreaker" understand ...

Who understands? When? Where? In your radar is not covered by anything?

[Dali]

Quote: professor

Who understands? When? Where? In your radar is not covered by anything?

I looked at the photo, I did not see the protection of the trophy from the large-caliber ... where is the protection?

[Professor]

Existing large-caliber sniper rifles with high-magnification optical sights can disable openly located SAZ radars at a distance of up to 2000 meters.
Since 2000 meters? A target smaller than a person? Moving? I believe.

Quote: Dali

I looked at the photo, I did not see the protection of the trophy from the large-caliber ... where is the protection?

Are we about different Trophies? I look at the photo and see the ceramic armor of the radar.

[Dali]

Quote: professor

Are we about different Trophies? I look at the photo and see the ceramic armor of the radar.

And you can photo with arrows, if not broke of course

[Professor]

Quote: Dali

And you can photo with arrows, if not broke of course

[Dali]

And against GSh-30 with 3000 rounds per minute (for example, 50 armor-piercing shells per second)?

[Dali]

Quote: professor

I look at the photo and see the ceramic armor of the radar.

Those. Is this ceramic pad not punctured for a large-caliber sniper rifle?

At the expense of "in motion" ... like stopping death is similar. And if necessary, and the Merkava turns over at maximum speed (at its weight) ...?

[Professor]

Quote: Dali

Those. Is this ceramic pad not punctured for a large-caliber sniper rifle?

You saw this "patch" closely from the third time, and a sniper from 2000 meters will easily distinguish it against the background of a dirty and dusty tank, shoot and pierce the ceramic armor, thus incapacitating the antenna. Good luck.

Quote: Dali

At the expense of "in motion" ... like stopping death is similar. And if necessary, and the Merkava turns over at maximum speed (at its weight) ...?

Yes. Stopping death is similar.

[Dali]

Quote: professor

You saw this "overlay" closely from the third time ...

Well, at that, you think so ... but what about sarcasm ... yes, quite a while ago you were not in Russia

Quote: professor

and a sniper from 2000 meters can easily distinguish it against the background of a dirty and dusty tank, shoot and pierce ceramic armor, thus disabling the antenna. Good luck.

To a sniper, if he is a sniper, of course, it will no longer matter how dirty the tank will be ... then he is also a sniper, in order to determine where to shoot by the overall dimensions and eye angle ...

By the way, what about the GSH-30 with 3000 shots per minute?
A line of armor-piercing shells, lasting 5 seconds (250 shells), will carry not only Kaz radars from the surface of the merkava, but also all the other available ones, so the merkava will not be able to shoot or defend ...

[MACCABI-TLV]

Quote: professor

Where? Your radar is not covered by anything

In general, it is strange that, according to their logic, a tank walks on its own, without infantry in PB.

[Dali]

Quote: MACCABI-TLV

In general, it is strange that, according to their logic, a tank walks on its own, without infantry in PB.

And according to your logic, when a sniper sees a merkava, he immediately starts screaming, waving his hands, launching flares - like I'm here, I'm here ....

[MACCABI-TLV]

Quote: Dali

And by your logic, a sniper

according to my logic, the sniper will have only one shot, after which he will have very little time to quickly dump.
https://lenta.ru/news/2013/01/11/antisniper/
In any country there are similar systems, including yours.

[Dali]

Quote: MACCABI-TLV

according to my logic, the sniper will have only one shot, after which he will have very little time to quickly dump.

This is if he is noticed in the heat of battle ... when everything around is booming and blazing ...

[MACCABI-TLV]

Quote: Dali

This is if he is noticed in the heat of battle ... when everything around is booming and blazing ...

it's still not a counter strike and battle field.

[Professor]

The installation fires metal balls into the approaching rocket that destroy the target

Sure sure. Balls.

[McLuha-MacLeod]

Sure sure. Balls.

Hexagonal squares

[Engineer]

If we consider that the development of weapons in Israel takes place on US grants, and part of the components are manufactured in the USA, which is beneficial for Israel in terms of the cost reduction of such a technologically complex and expensive process, but it is not beneficial in terms of promoting such products for export. Not only do Americans get promising and original designs from Israeli defense firms, they produce a number of components that Israel itself cannot manufacture or is not allowed by the same States, they also do not allow the export of these jointly developed products. The most striking example of this is the Lavi fighter.

[Professor]

Trophy was developed by Rafael for his money and his own funds including technological ones. Involved Israeli allies.

[Tim]

Related intelligence officers, no offense.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Tima

Related Intelligence

hinting that technology is stolen?

[shans2]

Stolen from Russia on the basis of Drozd, even stupid knows. In the 90s, not only people, but also technologies were taken away by these same people ....

[Algetxnumx]

Quote: Engineer

Engineer Today, 09:47 ↑ New
There is no research institute or design bureau in Israel where one could not hear Russian speech. A lot of talented engineers, graduates of our technical universities, employees of research institutes and design bureaus during the years of perestroika and the collapse of the Union went to live and work in Israel with such a wealth of knowledge.

Aha, shas the "professor" for such thoughts will write out such a "baggage of knowledge", it will not seem a little

[rotmistr60]

Quote: Observer 33

Reasons for indignation, I do not see at all.

I also see no reason for indignation. Normal business with a military bias. Here, be indignant, do not be indignant, but cooperation between the United States and Israel exists and there is no escape from this. We need to have better protection than in Israel, that's all.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: rotmistr60

I also see no reason for indignation. Normal business with a military bias.

in addition, 75% of the Israeli defense industry works for export. And in general, you might think that military cooperation is something new and unprecedented)

[MACCABI-TLV]

Quote: rotmistr60

I also see no reason for indignation. Normal business with a military bias.

That's right, Serchery is a good confirmation of this.

[Alex von Dorn]

Interestingly, and with electronic warfare equipment can you drown the system? And then attack.

[Dali]

Quote: Alex von Dorn

Interestingly, and with electronic warfare equipment can you drown the system? And then attack.

That's why they were created to jam, disable such systems ...

[Yegorchik]

Here is a wonderful niche for the BMPT with the promised 57mm gun in caliber, fires with a 10 km burst of Abrashu leaving only bald armor, and then with a rocket so that it doesn’t dabble in the hat.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Egorchik

shoots with a 10 km burst of abrashu

it's like?

[Yegorchik]

Quote: Pinky F.

it's like?

From an interview with Oleg Sienko- "We want to put on a new platform a ship's gun of 57 mm caliber with a range of 16 kilometers." the director of UVZ knows the performance characteristics of the cannon once said this, so I don't believe in 16 km of aimed fire either, but half of what was stated.

[Verdun]

If we assume that the Earth is perfectly round, without folds of terrain and vegetation, then a modern tank can be seen at a distance of 8 - 8,5 km. Even in this case, direct-fire shooting at 16 km is an extremely difficult matter.)) It seems that the 16 km declared by UVZ is still the maximum range along a ballistic trajectory.

[Leto]

Quote: Egorchik

Here is a wonderful niche for the BMPT with the promised 57mm gun in caliber, fires with a 10 km burst of Abrashu leaving only bald armor, and then with a rocket so that it doesn’t dabble in the hat.

"The dream of reason gives birth to monsters"

[Vadim237]

Forget about the 57 mm gun, we won’t take it into service.

[shans2]

RPG-30: Weapons to overcome active defense .....
probably it’s not necessary to say that there are ATGMs of this kind.

[Verdun]

The advent of new anti-tank systems has been brewing for a long time. And this means that it’s too early to dismantle conventional anti-tank guns and ammunition.