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USSR Treaties with the United States on SALT and PRO

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To hide the fact that the US is lagging behind the USSR, today's liberal “historians” write that the Americans allegedly had more strategic charges, that is, nuclear warheads than the USSR, and give data with a sixfold superiority of the United States, but immediately specify and point to sources claiming equality of warheads.


USSR Treaties with the United States on SALT and PRO


But there was no equality. The United States lagged behind the USSR, and lagged significantly. This lag was also facilitated by the war in Vietnam, which demanded a huge amount of money and human victims from the USA. And the Strategic Missile Forces of the USSR, founded in December 1959 of the year, developed rapidly and by the year 1972 represented a force superior to that of the United States.

In fact, these troops existed here before 1959, but under a different name. In my opinion, it is likely that in 1972, with the help of the missile forces, the strategic aviationunderwater and surface fleet The USSR could destroy the United States without receiving a retaliatory strike, since the United States lacked missile defense (ABM). The Americans had no idea how to make a missile capable of shooting down our strategic missile.

In 1972, we already had a deployed missile defense system. US submarines would be destroyed simultaneously with a nuclear strike, as each submarine, surface ship, nuclear installation on land in America and military bases in other countries was under the gun of the Soviet armed forces. Every American submarine was not lost sight of, no matter what the circumstances.

Only individual planes could break into the territory of the USSR and that, they most likely would have been shot down over the territory of the countries of Eastern Europe and before approaching the territory of the USSR from other directions. This is only later, thanks to the signing of the SALT treaty, the Americans will bring the number of their missiles and nuclear warheads to the amount at which full protection of the territory of the USSR cannot be guaranteed.

The fact is that when thousands of missiles fly to the country, then in the presence of any, the most advanced missile defense system, there is no guarantee that all missiles will be shot down. And we did not need to sign the SALT treaties and destroy the wonderful rockets into which the work and the genius of the Russian, Soviet person were invested. By signing the SALT-1 agreement, Leonid Brezhnev made it possible for the United States to almost catch up with the USSR in the number of strategic weapons.

An even bigger mistake on the part of the USSR was the signing at the same time, in 1972, of a treaty limiting the parties in the deployment of an anti-missile defense. At that time there were no objective reasons whatsoever that would push the USSR to sign it. On the part of the USSR, the signing of the ABM Treaty is pure madness. The fact is that at the time of the signing of the treaty, as mentioned above, the USSR had an excellent missile defense system and continued to build it around industrial centers, large cities, especially important facilities.

The United States did not have effective missile defense at all, and the level of science did not allow them to create such a defense. This is recognized even by the most pro-Western liberal circles. For example, they write that the United States refused to install a missile defense system in Montana. Why refused? Obviously, there was nothing to install. Therefore, they refused. M. Kalashnikov writes: “The Americans shot down the first ballistic intercontinental missile with another missile in the 1984 year. And we did the same thing twenty-three years earlier - in 1961. ” This fact is also indicated by Academician E. A. Fedosov. And someone talks about our backwardness.

When the Americans, with Mikhail Gorbachev's coming to power, got access to our design and technological documentation for missile defense systems, twenty years later they were able to launch a mass production of missile defense systems and immediately announced to the present-day Russian Federation about unilateral withdrawal from the missile defense treaty. This is how dear to us was Brezhnev’s faith in peaceful coexistence and friendship with the West. And this is not just a mistake of Brezhnev. These are the first signs of the emerging new thinking of our government.

It may have subconsciously already taken the first steps towards agreeing to submit to the will of the United States and live under the leadership of the United States of America. It did not understand that the Russian people would not be able to live in these conditions, the West would not allow it to live. The West will do everything to make the Russian people disappear from the face of the earth. The Gorbachev perestroika and subsequent events showed that under the patronage of the United States, the Russian people are beginning to die out.

By limiting the number of missiles in strategic forces with the SALT-1 agreement, L. I. Brezhnev did not reduce, but increased the USSR’s expenditures on the production of this type. weapons. First, after signing the treaty, America could quietly make rockets and catch up with us without fear that we would go far ahead. Secondly, in order to keep up with the United States in terms of the number of warheads, we were forced to remove from combat duty and destroy our missiles, replacing them with new missiles with separable warheads, since the treaty limited the number of missiles, not the number of warheads. In the absence of a treaty, we did not need to either destroy the old missiles, or produce new missiles in a hurry.

We, preserving ordinary rockets, would have been slow to install new-designed rockets - with divided warheads, and America would tremble at the mere thought that a swarm of our huge intercontinental ballistic missiles with enormous charge power is in capsules, is in the mines and drives by railways , both under the ground and on the surface of the earth.

We, the great continental power created great intercontinental missiles, and it was unwise to destroy them at the behest of the United States. But the treaty forced us to do this, despite the fact that the resource of rockets allowed them to keep on alert for dozens of years.

According to liberal sources, by the end of the 1980s, when Gorbachev opened all our nuclear storage rooms to the West, the number of nuclear warheads in the USSR was 6600. The destruction of the United States was guaranteed and the USSR had no reason to surrender to the “winner”.

In the 1971-1975 years, the trade turnover between the USSR and the USA increased sharply. Some of the officials negotiating with Western firms were turned into agents of Western influence. Our highest ranking officials were demoted by the money given by Western firms, as well as blackmail, threats and other methods of recruitment of representatives from other countries were used for hundreds of years by the Western special services.

And again, I recall the actions of N. S. Khrushchev, who removed the control of state security organs over officials concluding contracts with large western countries. JV Stalin made thousands of correct state decisions, which N. S. Khrushchev later canceled and thereby caused irreparable damage to the state. By the way, Western officials are under the control of their special services at the present time.

Unilateral concessions from the USSR were viewed in the West not as our free will, but as our weakness. The Soviet Union sought to humiliate the ban on the export of certain types of products. They knew that, if necessary, we would get the products we needed through orders from other countries, but we adopted discriminatory laws in order to humiliate us.

In general, trade was associated with certain conditions. For example, the so-called Jackson-Vanik amendment linked the financial and economic side of our relations with the United States with the lifting of restrictions on the emigration of Soviet citizens, above all Jewish nationality. And the point is not that practically they were not restricted from leaving the USSR. The main thing is that this amendment said that there were restrictions in the USSR on the departure of Jews.

18 July 1979 of the year L. I. Brezhnev during a meeting with President D. Carter in Vienna also signed the SALT-2 agreement, which the United States did not need at that time, and therefore was not ratified by the US Congress, that is, it did not enter into force.

At this time, in 1979, our great scientists, designers, engineers and technical workers and workers created a powerful and reliable strategic missile or, more correctly, a third-generation strategic missile system Р-36М УТТХ. In the west, the complex received the designation SS-18 Satan ("Satan"). It provides for the defeat of one missile to 10 targets under anti-missile defense conditions. It affects both small-sized high-strength targets and especially large targets located on a site with an area of ​​up to 300 thousand square kilometers, which indicates a high accuracy of hitting and the enormous power of warheads designed to defeat especially large targets.

RSD-20 giant rockets from 1975 were installed in the mines of the Soviet Union. There were no larger missiles in the world. Each of the 10 targets was hit by a 10 megaton warhead.

In the second half of the 1970s, the Soviet Union began deploying new medium-range missiles in Eastern European countries. More precisely, we did not deploy new missiles, but installed them instead of old ones, that is, old missiles were removed and replaced with new missiles.

The Americans went on a rampage. Not only is the territory of the United States virtually unprotected from the giant Soviet missiles installed in the mines, but here there are also new missiles in Europe that will reach and certainly hit any NATO base and keep all Western European countries at gunpoint.

Despite the fact that the USSR did not increase the total number of missiles in Eastern Europe, NATO decided in 1979 to deploy 5 American missiles in 572 countries of Western Europe. Of course, the replacement of our missiles was only the reason for the deployment of US missiles in Europe. In this situation, only Gorbachev could withdraw the troops of the Soviet Army from Eastern Europe, eliminate the Warsaw Pact, and significantly reduce the level of security of Soviet citizens.

Now, our border was guarded by powerful Pioneer RSD-10 mobile rockets located on a six-axle wheeled tractor platform. Since 1977, the release of these rockets on solid mixed fuel has steadily increased, and in 1987, 650 missiles were in arsenals and on alert. Looking ahead, I will say that in the 1991 year under the contract and these unique missiles were eliminated. Began complete disarmament of the Soviet Union.
Perhaps peacetime for the Soviet Army, which was not decided to attack more than one enemy, would have lasted a very long time. But US intervention in Iran’s 1979 revolution of the year led to the introduction of a limited Soviet contingent of troops in Afghanistan.

Russia's detractors all the time condemned the USSR, pointing to the supposedly huge expenses that it had due to participation in military conflicts and support of its influence in the countries of Eastern Europe, Latin America, Asia and Africa. And none of them will say that the United States spent money for these purposes several orders of magnitude more than the USSR.

Only the Vietnam War cost the United States 146 billion dollars, we have 1579 million dollars, that is, the United States spent more time in 90 more money than the USSR. So, in all the conflicts where we to some extent opposed America.

The amounts of assistance provided by the USA and the USSR to third world countries are also incommensurable. Our expenses were relatively small and, ultimately, were aimed at ensuring the security of our people.

Passivity and inactivity lead to large and senseless losses. And if the USSR with its mighty army sat and watched the United States crush the whole world under it, it would wait for an attack on our country not as a separate power, but of many countries armed with America and educated in the spirit of hatred of the Soviet Union.

With our inaction, dozens of countries would have fallen on the USSR and the victims of the Russian people would be measured in the millions. And it is absolutely clear and understandable to all who did not succumb to Western propaganda that the Soviet Union helped and even fought, above all, for the preservation of our Russian, Soviet civilization, for the future of our children and grandchildren. For the preservation of their lives. And it is rightly said: "Only he is worthy of life and freedom, who every day goes for them to fight." When we stopped fighting for our lives and freedom and surrendered to America, we immediately became divided and endangered. And dying twenty years. But even the beginning of a small struggle for the interests of their country immediately stopped the extinction of the nation.

Therefore, it can be argued that the SALT and ABM treaties with the United States, which were signed by L.I. Brezhnev in the 1970s, caused damage to the USSR. At the same time, it should be noted that the one who considers the active foreign policy pursued by L.I. Brezhnev to be deeply mistaken when we helped other countries in their struggle against the aggressive actions of Western countries. Those were active actions in the name of the security of our Motherland.
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 1 May 2016 06: 33
    +5
    Yes, the Yankees deceived us, forced us to cut rockets and bought weapons-grade plutonium on the deshovka.
    “Only he is worthy of life and freedom, who every day goes for them to fight.” Here’s the thought that I’m devoted to,
    The result of all that the mind has accumulated.
    Only the one who knows the battle for life
    He deserved life and freedom.
    J.V. Goethe "Faust"
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 1 May 2016 10: 11
      +4
      Quote: Igor39
      Yes, the Yankees deceived us, forced us to cut rockets and bought weapons-grade plutonium on the deshovka.


      In general, the traitors in our power were teeming like serpentines in the serpentarium
  2. Sars
    Sars 1 May 2016 06: 41
    +5
    Russia needs to withdraw from all treaties on restrictions - to make the weapons and in the quantity that is necessary.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 1 May 2016 07: 06
      -2
      And so that the Yankees deployed missiles in Europe with an approach of 10 minutes?
      1. Oden280
        Oden280 1 May 2016 08: 06
        +4
        Approach 10 minutes to what? To Moscow? So to hell with this brothel. And if control centers are meant, then they should be transferred to the Ural region for a long time, if they have not already been transferred.
        1. Svist
          Svist 1 May 2016 12: 37
          +6
          And the capital must be moved to Novosibirsk! lol
    2. atalef
      atalef 1 May 2016 08: 18
      +2
      Quote: SarS
      Russia needs to withdraw from all treaties on restrictions - to make the weapons and in the quantity that is necessary.

      And to continue the nuclear arms race - especially given that there will be no nuclear war and all this money will go into the sand - there are principles of reasonable sufficiency - who does not understand this, in the end, in the weather, after illusory safety, will turn his country into a Upper Volta with missiles
      1. the most important
        the most important 1 May 2016 21: 50
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        And to continue the nuclear arms race - especially given that there will be no nuclear war and all this money will go into the sand - there are principles of reasonable sufficiency - who does not understand this, in the end, in the weather, after illusory safety, will turn his country into a Upper Volta with missiles

        And against whom glorious Israel did its warheads, if the Arabs do not have nuclear weapons ???
  3. Alex_T
    Alex_T 1 May 2016 07: 24
    +6
    After the phrase "... the USSR could destroy the United States without receiving a retaliatory strike, since the United States did not have antimissile defense (ABM)", everything became clear to the author, round durak. For a retaliatory strike, you need not missile defense, but surviving and ready-to-use carriers of nuclear weapons, for example, protected silo launchers, surface and submarine ships. The whole point of nuclear deterrence is a guaranteed retaliatory strike, and this parity still exists.
    1. Oden280
      Oden280 1 May 2016 08: 03
      +1
      A retaliatory strike involves launching one’s missiles in response to the launch of those from the enemy, and not after something has already fallen on our heads. And missile defense is necessary in order to reduce own losses.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 1 May 2016 10: 02
      +5
      "The USSR could destroy the United States without receiving a retaliatory strike, since the United States did not have antimissile defense (ABM)", everything became clear to the author, round durak "///

      That's for sure. An article from the "old lady from the shop".

      Missile defense against Russian nuclear strike
      the United States does not have today.
      But neither then nor now is it impossible to attack America (like Russia)
      with impunity.
  4. kalibr
    kalibr 1 May 2016 09: 46
    -2
    In the article only "would" - would, would, would. If only ... it should be placed on an alternative history.
  5. Old26
    Old26 1 May 2016 10: 17
    +7
    Article HUGE MINUS. Unfortunately, you can’t put more than one. And not for the cheers-patriotic and capricious orientation - like we could all break and we had nothing but for ELEMENTARYignorance MATCHES. Generally from an article from a newspaper "Tomorrow" it is not necessary to expect otherwise. A blooper on a blooper. Well, quoting such an "expert" as Maxim Kalashnikov is generally aerobatics. The author simply does not know what the designation of the missiles is, the number and power of their BG. In short, not an article, but full ffl

    Quote: Igor39
    Yes, the Yankees deceived us, forced us to cut rockets and bought weapons-grade plutonium on the deshovka.

    What rockets did we cut, but they don't? I would just like to know. And weapons-grade plutonium, which we bought at a cheap price, is generally enchanting. To know when all this happened laughing

    Quote: SarS
    Russia needs to withdraw from all treaties on restrictions - to make the weapons and in the quantity that is necessary.

    But we have no strength for all the necessary weapons. And they will simply crush us with a new arms race. If we seek the destruction of Russia, its degradation and its subsequent collapse - yes, we must withdraw from all treaties.

    Quote: Igor39
    And so that the Yankees deployed missiles in Europe with an approach of 10 minutes?

    About 10 minutes FORGET. The missiles located now in the Baltic states will reach Moscow and Leningrad in 2-3 minutes. Missile bases - minutes in 3-4, no more ...

    Quote: Oden280
    A retaliatory strike involves launching one’s missiles in response to the launch of those from the enemy, and not after something has already fallen on our heads. And missile defense is necessary in order to reduce own losses.

    A retaliatory strike implies launching missiles only after something has fallen. A strike when rockets are launched in response to the launch of enemy rockets, but before the BG falls, is called ANSWER.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 1 May 2016 18: 33
      +1
      The HEU-LEU agreement (high enriched uranium - low enriched uranium) is an intergovernmental agreement between the Russian Federation and the United States of America concluded in Washington on February 18, 1993, providing for the irreversible reprocessing of at least 500 tons of Russian weapons-grade uranium (equivalent to about 20 thousand nuclear warheads [1] [2]) Low enriched uranium is a fuel for US nuclear power plants [3]. To ensure an intergovernmental agreement, the HEU-LEU Contract was later concluded between Russian and American uranium enrichment companies.

      It is one of the most significant projects in the field of disarmament and strengthening strategic stability, known as the Megatons to Megawatts Program. The agreement was designed for 20 years and ended in 2013. [4] In total, 14446 tons of LEU were exported within the framework of the program % B
      D%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%92%D0%9E%D0%A3-%D0%9D%D0%9E%D0%A3
    2. Igor39
      Igor39 1 May 2016 18: 37
      +3
      According to Art. 3 of the RSDM Treaty, the following were subject to destruction:

      medium-range missiles
      USSR - RSD-10 "Pioneer", "P-12", "P-14" (according to NATO classification, "SS-20", "SS-4" and "SS-5, respectively) and ground-based cruise missiles of the Republic of Kazakhstan -55 (according to NATO classification - SSC-X-4 "Slingshot");
      USA - Pershing-2 and BGM-109G (ground-based Tomahawk cruise missile);
      short-range missiles
      USSR - OTR-22 Temp-S and OTR-23 Oka (SS-12 and SS-23);
      USA - "Pershing-1A."
      By June 1991, the treaty was executed: the USSR destroyed 1846 missile systems (of these, about half were made missiles that were not on alert); USA - 846 complexes.
  6. Basil50
    Basil50 1 May 2016 10: 55
    +5
    The article is nothing new, we knew all this, only that decision-making in foreign policy took place under the control of imported special services can be taken for news, and even then the whole subsequent history of RUSSIA raises this idea. That under Gorbachev, that under Yeltsin, * members * of the government were proud of ties * abroad *. * Curators * of these * perestroika * gained power under Khrushchev. It seems that in the modern government of RUSSIA everything is done only with the consent of American * interests *, otherwise there is no way to explain the direct boycott of decrees of the president or ministers. Sometimes the thought comes that the point of the state is to profit from the population or with the help of the population, and then grab it from the * profit * already. And what? The punishment is conditional, and there is no supervision, the report is formal. We all know about these * subtleties of the moment *, here we discuss it very rarely, and there are * figures of default *, otherwise their * acts * look very disgusting and mean.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 1 May 2016 14: 43
      -3
      In fact, you do not know anything, except what our media are telling you, and some authors on VO, which is also the media. You no longer have sources of information other than the OBS agency. Therefore, you cannot make ends meet, because not everything is gold that glitters and not everything that smells bad!
  7. podgornovea
    podgornovea 1 May 2016 10: 58
    +4
    RSD-20 giant rockets from 1975 were installed in the mines of the Soviet Union. There were no larger missiles in the world. Each of the 10 targets was hit by a 10 megaton warhead.

    When a person does not even bother to prepare, he begins to write a lot of letters, it turns out to be a very miserable sight.
  8. podgornovea
    podgornovea 1 May 2016 11: 26
    +1
    This is economy buddy!

    In the state in which it was in the 1985 year after the fall in oil prices, talking about military superiority over the NATO bloc (also with China relations were below the baseboard) is complete nonsense!
    In 1985, 44 of a million tons of only one grain was imported.
    And about technological superiority there is no need to carry a blizzard here!
    Somewhat ahead, but otherwise in mechanical engineering, electronics
    huge lag.
    A huge scandal erupted when machines were purchased from Mitsubishi in Japan for currency
    for the construction of submarines.
    the Americans then sprayed their saliva for a long time.
    And they bought it because they themselves could not do it.
    Cranes for the construction of nuclear power plants were purchased from Kroll Kranes.
    Even large-diameter pipes were purchased to export gas to Europe (the famous deal of the century "gas in exchange for pipes."
    For BAM 10000 trucks for difficult climatic conditions from Magirus-Deutz purchased
    (project "Delta").
    And such examples are the sea.
    I don’t even want to write about electronics, not even about computers, but just about Japanese cassettes and video recorders, it’s enough to remember!
  9. Timur
    Timur 1 May 2016 12: 19
    +2
    I tried to find on the Internet, at least a mention of the RSD-20 missile with 10 RGCHINs of 10mT each, nothing happened, information about the RSD-10 stubbornly popped up. know.
  10. Glagol1
    Glagol1 1 May 2016 13: 00
    +2
    It is strange that such an amateur writes articles on VO, it is necessary to filter it somehow.
  11. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 1 May 2016 13: 46
    -4
    Bravo article author - Respect to You!
  12. kalibr
    kalibr 1 May 2016 14: 39
    0
    In the 1971-1975 years, the trade turnover between the USSR and the USA increased sharply. Some of the officials negotiating with Western firms were turned into agents of Western influence. Our highest ranking officials were demoted by the money given by Western firms, as well as blackmail, threats and other methods of recruitment of representatives from other countries were used for hundreds of years by the Western special services.

    Who is Maslovsky that knows all this? Where from? He kept the candle, checked the bills. And where did the KGB look? They also decomposed? All, therefore, laid out. And Mr. Maslovsky knew all this, he kept a candle and ... was silent! Or did he find all of these things in the archive? In which? Links where? In general, nonsense in vegetable oil, designed for stupid people!
    1. tolian
      tolian 3 May 2016 12: 07
      +2
      The author is chukhnya. But he does not write that the greatest danger for the USSR was the money and valuables of officials, kept in vain, without the possibility of their fearless use. Look at those who rule now. After all, these are descendants or party nomenklatura, officials from the KGB, Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Internal Affairs. And a huge amount of ordinary fartsi. And the former fartsa also brags about her past. The idiots. Tell voters, especially the elderly, that in the past their candidate for deputies fumbled - and he is not. Stalin's strength is in his understanding that a person weighed down by a personal condition cannot be a patriot serving the Motherland. Not himself, but his children and grandchildren will eventually break him and spit on patriotism in exchange for "the delights of Western life." Look at the ruling now, how they look at you from the screens. Wary, apprehensive. They try to keep silent as much as possible, thinking about something tensely. Is it only the son of a lawyer in his innate "fearlessness" sweeps something about the offended Russians and his selflessness. Buying land in the suburbs. Lenin, Marx are right. There are proletarians and there are capitalists. There is also "" or "shit", as Lenin put it about those who serve the capitalists. Well, remember all those Kasianovs, Nemtsovs, Berezovskys, Polonskys, etc. And also Makarevichs, Akhedzhakovs, Ganopol and other helpful consumers. Is not it? And Mao is right when he proclaimed reliance on his own bayonet. Only this way and not otherwise!
  13. vignat21
    vignat21 1 May 2016 17: 06
    +3
    In 1972 we already had an expanded missile defense system


    The deployed missile defense system was still far away. In 1972, only trial operation was conducted, even inexperienced duty. There were many unresolved issues.
  14. Old26
    Old26 1 May 2016 17: 36
    +6
    Quote: Timur
    I tried to find on the Internet, at least a mention of the RSD-20 missile with 10 RGCHINs of 10mT each, nothing happened, information about the RSD-10 stubbornly popped up. know.

    You can search as much as you want - you still will not find it. Such a rocket is just DOES NOT EXIST.
    The designation of the RSD is a contractual designation and it refers to only one specific rocket - RSD-10 "Pioneer". Indicates - Рaketa Сrarer Дreality.
    Intercontinental missiles had the designation RS - Рaketa Сstrategic.

    What the author wrote about is a rocket PC-20, it's the same SS-18, it's the same P-36M, it's the same 15А14. Available in three versions - with "heavy" 20 mt head with "light" 8-mt и с Hrc. On this option was EIGHTAnd not ten BB, while the power of each according to various estimates from 1 to 1,5 mt. Well, not at all 10 mt each one. And was deployed not in 1975, but in 1979.
    1. Timur
      Timur 1 May 2016 20: 17
      +3
      Quote: Old26
      Such a missile simply DOES NOT EXIST.

      Here I am about the same! The author raised a topic about which he has a very superficial understanding if he writes about non-existent missiles, and non-existent warheads of 10 mT each. As if the article was written for housewives, and not for VO. I have the honor!
  15. Old26
    Old26 1 May 2016 17: 45
    +4
    Quote: Robert Nevsky
    Bravo article author - Respect to You!

    Respect for enchanting nonsense ??? Oh well
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 2 May 2016 06: 34
      +5
      As an expert on PR, I will say: such articles are very easy and simple to write to create a certain mood in society. Professionals are not liked or appreciated here, so only a few will hear your opinion. And 80%, according to the Pareto law, will remember very little or nothing at all, but they will have an aftertaste from the article that everyone is deceiving us, that everyone is bad, except us, and we are good, that is, this is how the “trench mentality of the broad masses” is formed. Little by little ... And why it is needed, I think, you yourself will figure it out. And believe me, a huge number of people ... will not believe you, but the author of this article! Look, when I asked where the information came from, give a link - I immediately got a minus! True, one for now ...
  16. RomanS
    RomanS 1 May 2016 18: 00
    +3
    And after this article, something will say that in Russia there is no freedom of speech? It’s a pity that there is still no filter from publishing articles from amateurs ... Illiterate amateurs.
  17. Old26
    Old26 1 May 2016 19: 18
    +3
    Igor39!
    I read both of your posts. And the Gore-Chernomyrdin deal and the elimination of medium-range missiles. Under the deal, I can paint it for you almost for years, tons, warheads. But the speech is somewhat different. You wrote:
    Quote: Igor39
    Yes, the Yankees deceived us, forced us to cut rockets and bought weapons-grade plutonium on the deshovka.


    But what, make us recycle our missiles, they did not recycle their own? What is the Yankee deception?
    And the second one. You write that they bought weapons from us PLUTONIUM, and as confirmation of your remark cite as an example the Gor-Chernomyrdin deal where it comes to WEAPON URANIUM?
    Don't you think these are slightly different things?
  18. 31rus2
    31rus2 1 May 2016 23: 29
    0
    Dear, it’s not possible to insure against mistakes, stupidity and betrayal, therefore the only way is to limit power for making strategic decisions (territory, new secret technologies, peaceful and military atom, everything related to security, but leave the decision and the nuclear button to the chapter country in the event of a threat or the outbreak of war, crisis), we need a mechanism that would not be what kind of president, especially the party could dispose of the country's property