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Add the missing companies in the Immortal Regiment!

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Just recently, another national action, the Immortal Regiment, was launched. Really popular. The memory of the people is to remember those who once gave their lives for their homeland.


Add the missing companies in the Immortal Regiment!


On the streets there were guys who distribute St. George ribbons. In the supermarkets appeared caps, similar to the caps of those who once went to battle. Even stars, however, almost "according to the charter", appeared. But these little things are not particularly important. Just because even if entrepreneurs began to promote this product, the action is really important, and people are preparing for it.

But today I would like to make a proposal. The Great Patriotic War ended long ago. The heroes of that war are already historical personality. I understand that great-great-grandchildren today learn about their exploits and are proud of their family, their roots. So, they are proud of the country. Everything is correct.

Only in the history of our state have there been and are many such wars. After the Patriotic War, Soviet soldiers fought with enemies in many countries of the world. I do not want to talk about the political and other motives of these wars. This is not my business. And not the topic of this article. I am about those soldiers and officers who did not return from these wars.

Already in the history of Russia, many nameless heroes died in various conflicts, in anti-terrorist operations. Every reader knows such people. Life, alas, is not a movie. In the war they kill. And the terrorists are not boys who see weapon for the first time.

But for some reason we are silent about these dead. No, on holidays, on some memorable dates, we casually recall. Even we write articles, we remove TV programs. And then? But just recently it was the same with the soldiers of the Great Patriotic War. Each family independently kept (if, of course, kept) memory of the dead and the dead veterans. And then a terrible thing happened. Yes, scary. And many people remember this.

Orders and medals of the Soviet Union appeared on the markets and on the Internet. And even the medals of the Heroes of the Soviet Union! With documents. The descendants of the heroes began to simply sell the memory. Sense to keep medals, even if young people turn to deserved veterans with the requests "Grandfather, hurt with pieces of iron"? .. Was it? It was.

And I remember the reproach from the old woman in 80 ... When a young lieutenant with the Order of the Red Star heard: “And isn't it a shame? Grandfather spilled blood for such an award, beat the fascists, did you? ”And the lieutenant walked down the street with the newly received order for Afgan. We didn’t even begin to explain to granny that he deserved it. We understood her. And the lieutenant understood.

And how many veterans like that lieutenant live today? Lot! How many orders can be seen on holidays! How many awards sparkles on the Day of Airborne! And then? And then kind of embarrassed to wear. There is no reason. And we remember the guys of our dead at the table on professional holidays. The third toast ...

But in every region there are public organizations such as "Combat Brotherhood". And people are going there is not simple. Officers, soldiers of different wars. Veterans of military service. Those who have experienced the hard way about what war is. And he knows what death is. And each of them has some photos of his comrades. Those who were near.

Why should these respected organizations not be part of the "Immortal Regiment" with a "company" of comrades? Why not remind people of the feat of completely different front-line soldiers? Why is the cap - a symbol, and the Afghan Panama - no? Why do I see a lot of people with medals at the festival, not for the Patriotic anymore, but I don’t see those wars lost?

I am sure that such offers already exist! There are a lot of smart people in our country. So, maybe it's time to organize them? Maybe it's time for veteran organizations from highly specialized to become nationwide? Any school, college, university or university will support it. And a lot of effort is not required.

You just need to come up with a proposal to the organizers of the "Immortal Regiment." Will help and increase the photo, and make posters. And after the action, these photos will become the basis of school corners of military glory, and, maybe, museums. Why are we waiting for the top command?
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 26 2016 05: 57
    -12%
    I agree with Starikov that the Immortal Regiment action should take place on June 22nd.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 26 2016 06: 11
      +20

      And I remember the reproach from the old woman in the 80s ... When a young lieutenant with the Order of the Red Star heard - And is not it a shame? Grandfather shed blood for such an award, beat the Nazis, and you? And the lieutenant was walking along the street with the newly received order for Afghanistan. We did not even begin to explain to the granny that he deserved it. We understood her. And the lieutenant understood.
      Order
      I was an old woman alone at the station, having laughed, she said:
      -If you’re not ashamed, son, you start your life with deception.
      Somewhere the order bought, fastened and boast to people.
      Himself so young, only a gram of conscience will not.

      All such a tan, seen from vacation, from the hot south.
      There you walked for daddy’s money, had fun thoughtlessly.
      You take off do not disgrace, do not disgrace the front gray hair.
      What do you know, son, about the war, nothing pretty dear.

      What can I say to that old gray-haired woman, not to offend old age.
      But words in justification do not climb, as if into a burden.
      Only the order with his hand covered, so as not to spoil the insult.
      And I remembered the Afghan sky, our sky is transparent.

      I could tell that old woman how the mountains cried.
      As the snow suddenly blushed with red mountain ash,
      As mountain rivers drowned the last cries
      And how the sky threw burning MIGs to the earth.

      And I’ll tell you how grief breaks into the apartment.
      Like a mad mother they could not tear them from the grave.
      And then you, old woman, will understand and you will not condemn me.
      The order, as we have, in the bazaar you will not meet, you will not buy.

      And then you, old woman, will understand and you will not condemn me.
      The order, as we have, in the bazaar you will not meet, you will not buy.


      Author Unknown: Order - Lyrics http://mirpesen.com/en/neizvesten/orden.html#ixzz46tm7TrIC
      1. Nikolay82
        Nikolay82 April 29 2016 03: 12
        0
        lyrics of the song "Orders are not for sale" (or "about an old woman") Autumn 1985, Shindand. The songwriter is Slatov Yu.A., the "Blue Berets" ensemble.
    2. The black
      The black April 26 2016 06: 36
      +20
      I agree with Starikov that the Immortal Regiment action should take place on June 22nd.
      A controversial question. May 9 is Victory Day, but Victory to the people was incredibly high. Not one people paid a big fee. And many of those who died probably dreamed to live up to it, dreamed of celebrating VICTORY !!. Therefore it is very symbolic what exactly 9 May they parade in a single system. The living and the dead ....
      And as for the author’s proposal, I agree. Let all those who died for the country in all wars be remembered that day.
      1. MarKon
        MarKon April 26 2016 11: 45
        -12%
        In fact, in China, in the 2nd MV 35 million died. Of course, I agree, in relation to the population, everything is relative. Yes, and without our help, they would have long butted with yap)
        1. Midnight
          Midnight April 26 2016 12: 24
          -4
          Quote: MarKon
          Yes, and without our help, they would have long been butting yap

          Who are you talking about now? About the Americans, who defeated Japan and dropped nuclear bombs on them?
          Or do you think that communist China and Russia have already defeated Japan? laughing
          1. Mikado
            Mikado April 26 2016 13: 22
            +5
            Quote: Midnight
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            Or do you think that communist China and Russia have already defeated Japan? laughing


            I understand what you are working on. Yesterday there was already one of these, and also in the comments about the "Immortal Regiment". He was banned.

            1. The Americans undoubtedly defeated the Japanese army and navy (especially the navy). But in Japan itself, morale was high, and suicide bombers were actively preparing. When planning the operation to land in Japan, the Allies estimated that their losses would be about a million people. Atomic bombing generally had little effect on Japanese morale and, especially, defense capability. It was an act of barbarism, not justified by military considerations, aimed more likely to intimidate the USSR.
            2. Finally, the Japanese spirit was broken by the entry into the war of the USSR (see the speech of the emperor). Do not forget what exactly the USSR defeated the largest the Japanese army in a short time.
            3. Continuation of item 2. The Japanese forces opposing the Allies are incomparable with the Kwantung Army. As a rule, even in the victorious campaigns of 1941-1942. in the Philippines, Malaya and Burma, 2-4 divisions operated, which successfully "chased with a towel" the superior forces of your beloved Americans and British. The question is, where were the other Japanese forces? They were engaged precisely against China. Despite the fact that the Japanese regularly beat the Chinese, the Japanese army got stuck there for a long time. Whatever China's contribution may have been, it pulled off some of Japan's forces.
            1. Pre-cat
              Pre-cat April 26 2016 22: 27
              +2
              Quote: Mikado
              Finally, the Japanese spirit was broken by the entry into the war of the USSR

              I fully support! In addition, the admirer of "American military power" either does not know or modestly keep silent that two atomic bombs dropped on Japan were all that the United States had at that time. in fact, they bluffed and intimidated not so much Japan as Stalin. The production of fissile material for the next bombs was rather slow due to the method of uranium enrichment chosen by the Americans. By the end of 1946, the United States had only 9 (according to other sources, 7) usable bombs, so it would take a long time for minke whales to travel to Japan. And given that the Japanese were on the way with a replica of the Me-262 and improved aircraft, missiles for the Oka suicide bombers with an increased flight range, it was very bloody.
    3. co-creator
      co-creator April 26 2016 06: 51
      +19
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      I agree with Starikov that the Immortal Regiment action should take place on June 22nd.

      Who is stopping you and the old man from June 22 to hold this action? We will be 9. and you are 22
    4. kos2910
      kos2910 April 26 2016 09: 36
      +2
      Remember will never be superfluous, but on May 9 it is more out of place and day off.
  2. Teberii
    Teberii April 26 2016 06: 06
    +1
    I fully support the country fought and after the war it should be noted, remember these people.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 26 2016 06: 18
      +28

      Why shouldn't these respected organizations go through the "Immortal Regiment" with a "company" of comrades? Why not remind people of the feat of completely different front-line soldiers? Why is the garrison cap a symbol, but not the "Afghan" Panama? Why do I see a lot of people with medals at the holiday, no longer for the Patriotic War, but I don't see those who died in those wars?
      I don’t agree. It’s not necessary to unite the participants of the Great Patriotic War in one Victory, and the participants in the conflicts, for this another time is needed. It is strange to mix the Great Victory and the liberation of our Motherland with participation in local conflicts! Yes, guys need to be honored and remembered, but these wars are different, in essence and in meaning.
      1. moskowit
        moskowit April 26 2016 06: 52
        +15
        Absolutely right! The great war was the war of the whole people for their survival!
        The participation of the USSR and Russia in local wars and military conflicts is slightly different. But the Memory and Valor of the fallen Sons and Daughters of the people must be immortalized properly. And all this should be done not by ascetic loners, but at the state level.
      2. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 26 2016 08: 32
        +4
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        I don’t agree. It’s not necessary to unite the participants of the Great Patriotic War in one Victory, and the participants in the conflicts, for this another time is needed. It is strange to mix the Great Victory and the liberation of our Motherland with participation in local conflicts!

        I share. The author’s suggestion is initially not far off. All these experiments with the format of the action are just a passing and ridiculous network initiative.
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    3. Aleksander
      Aleksander April 26 2016 07: 43
      +3
      I think that nothing extra will have to be organized - relatives of those killed in Afghanistan and so go in the columns of the Immortal regiment, since their relatives fought in the Second World War.

      Perhaps there is no such family where your hero is not remembered
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina April 26 2016 10: 43
        +11
        Quote: Aleksander
        Perhaps there is no such family where your hero is not remembered


        There is no family in Russia where no hero was remembered.
        And the eyes of young soldiers from the photos of wilted look ...


        And on the topic, Russia should remember its heroes all to one, this is not discussed! But do not interfere with a bunch of victims in the Great Patriotic War and in other conflicts, these are all different things.

        The Great Patriotic War is the Holy War of the Soviet people against the united fascist Western rabble and this is our common Holy VICTORY!
        Our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, Victory will be ours! (I.V. Stalin)
        1. Midnight
          Midnight April 26 2016 10: 56
          -4
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          And on the topic, Russia should remember its heroes all to one, this is not discussed!

          And this is said by a person who denies the real death toll in that war, because it "casts a shadow" on the beloved and mustachioed Georgian, the death toll from whose policy and "comrades" only in peacetime amounted to approximately 60-80 million people? belay
  3. Cananecat
    Cananecat April 26 2016 06: 08
    +2
    I agree with the author. Article plus without reservation.
  4. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack April 26 2016 06: 16
    0
    I agree with the Author !!!!
  5. parusnik
    parusnik April 26 2016 06: 28
    +9
    From our school 28 people died in Afghanistan .. yes there is a memorial near the school .. Yes they lay flowers .. An interesting idea, you need to think about how to do it
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 26 2016 11: 00
      +7
      Quote: parusnik
      From our school 28 people died in Afghanistan .. yes there is a memorial near the school .. Yes they lay flowers .. An interesting idea, you need to think about how to do it

      The idea is correct, but why unite everything on May 9?
      May 9 is the day of victory over fascist Germany.
      November 5 - Day of Remembrance for the soldiers who died during local wars and military conflicts. And here I agree with the author, on this day it will not be superfluous to hold an action of a similar action "Immortal Regiment", which will present the heroic descendants of the grandfathers who won the victory in 1945.
      Article plus!
  6. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 April 26 2016 06: 39
    +1
    I agree with the author. Here are two countries with a common history, in our country we remember and honor, and in the next, forget everything and anathema. In our country, children in kindergarten should already know the true history of their country.
  7. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 April 26 2016 06: 44
    +5
    We have already connected! Already last year there were many photographs of Afghans in the column of the Immortal Regiment. This year, I hope, there will be even more. In general, judging by the fact that the photo studio has not been accepting orders for processing photographs for plates for a week (they are overwhelmed with orders beyond all possibilities and I work almost around the clock!) This year's parade will be simply grandiose!
    1. cap
      cap April 26 2016 09: 03
      +3
      Quote: hohryakov066
      We have already connected! Already last year there were many photographs of Afghans in the column of the Immortal Regiment. This year, I hope, there will be even more. In general, judging by the fact that the photo studio has not been accepting orders for processing photographs for plates for a week (they are overwhelmed with orders beyond all possibilities and I work almost around the clock!) This year's parade will be simply grandiose!


      Good luck to you !
      God help you!
  8. Pyokhar
    Pyokhar April 26 2016 06: 54
    +6
    My elder brother died in Afghanistan and I myself served conscript service "across the river", I agree with the author, but with the proviso: to carry out the action, but not on June 22. For me, the Great Patriotic War is associated with my grandfathers who did not return from the war. I remember them and love them very much, and I want this day to be only for them, for all the veterans of that war.
  9. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 26 2016 06: 56
    +3
    Well, if Afghanistan, then Angola / Mozambique / Egypt / Vietnam / Korea,
    where our fighters gave their lives.
    And the heroes of Chechnya should not be forgotten, the war is already on our territory.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 26 2016 07: 10
      +8
      Quote: Zomanus
      Well, if Afghanistan, then Angola / Mozambique / Egypt / Vietnam / Korea,
      where our fighters gave their lives.
      And the heroes of Chechnya should not be forgotten, the war is already on our territory.

      will already be like a theater of the absurd. so near and leveling of the Great Victory itself. there is a holy holiday Victory Day, a memory and tribute to the Grandfathers, let it be.
      1. Midnight
        Midnight April 26 2016 10: 59
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        so close and leveling the Great Victory itself

        Well, actually it’s absolutely true!
        May 9 is the Victory Day in the Great Patriotic War and an attempt to replace it with something else is precisely an attempt to "steal the holiday".
    2. Cossack
      Cossack April 26 2016 22: 46
      0
      I will continue ... Karabakh, Abkhazia, Tajikistan, Ossetia, Transnistria ...

      My panama is still with me ... almost white, without an asterisk and a strap already, but not only having served all my life, but also mountains, fields, forests and rivers from Elbrus to the White Sea and from Krasnoyarsk to Odessa ...
      1. Not local
        Not local April 26 2016 23: 37
        0
        add - Donbass
  10. Gardamir
    Gardamir April 26 2016 07: 35
    -22%
    The action immortal regiment is designed to destroy the memory of that victory. My father fought in that war. But I don’t remember my grandfather, let alone my great-grandfather, who lived before the revolution. Now right on the site. on this page there is an advertisement for the production of banners "immortal regiment", indicating the production price and address. For me, this is not a memory. For me, this "regiment" is a liberal bubble flash mob. Since when did the gentlemen sitting in the Kremlin, who hate everything Soviet, suddenly fell in love with the people? Tell me why Victory Day is being overwritten with this flash mob? Why are the red banners and red stars changed to the St. George ribbon? As long as the veterans and their close descendants are alive, will they hang noodles about unity? And then Victory Day will be replaced with a cheap flash mob.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 26 2016 08: 40
      -14%
      Quote: Gardamir
      And then they will replace Victory Day with a cheap flash mob.

      you know, I agree with you. In the seventies, as a kid, I was proud to see my grandfather in the "column of veterans". The Victory Day had a great inner content - we were like that. And now this holiday has been packed into a modern party-style format. I am afraid that the popularizers of Victory from the authorities will eventually achieve the opposite result.
    2. cap
      cap April 26 2016 09: 00
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      Now right on the site. on this page there is an advertisement for the production of banners "immortal regiment", indicating the production price and address. For me, this is not a memory. For me, this "regiment" is a liberal bubble flash mob.


      These freaks must be beaten quietly, but it hurts!
    3. igor67
      igor67 April 26 2016 11: 04
      -11%
      Quote: Gardamir
      The action immortal regiment is designed to destroy the memory of that victory. My father fought in that war. But I don’t remember my grandfather, let alone my great-grandfather, who lived before the revolution. Now right on the site. on this page there is an advertisement for the production of banners "immortal regiment", indicating the production price and address. For me, this is not a memory. For me, this "regiment" is a liberal bubble flash mob. Since when did the gentlemen sitting in the Kremlin, who hate everything Soviet, suddenly fell in love with the people? Tell me why Victory Day is being overwritten with this flash mob? Why are the red banners and red stars changed to the St. George ribbon? As long as the veterans and their close descendants are alive, will they hang noodles about unity? And then Victory Day will be replaced with a cheap flash mob.

      I did not understand the minus, my grandfather died near Stalingrad, but I would love to walk with his portrait, but I wouldn’t throw it on the floor, there is a photo on the internet where portraits are lying in the trash, this suggests that they carried ports are not relatives but outsiders for mass
      1. The black
        The black April 26 2016 14: 35
        +5
        , on the Internet there is a photo where portraits are lying in the trash, this suggests that portals were carried not by relatives but by outsiders for mass
        Sorry, of course, but you either blurted out without thinking, or a provocateur. What "is there a photo on the internet?" Is it really incomprehensible that this photo was a provocation of the liberal skewers, who posted it to each other and told how "the people were driven to the march" almost at gunpoint. All this is nonsense and a lie .... Think about it, and then this declare. After all, the head is given to you not only in order to eat into it ...
      2. Des10
        Des10 April 26 2016 14: 59
        +1
        Quote: igor67
        there is a photo on the internet where portraits are lying on the trash, this suggests that portals were carried not by relatives but by outsiders for mass

        I can’t believe it.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky April 26 2016 18: 38
          +4
          Quote: Des10
          Quote: igor67
          there is a photo on the internet where portraits are lying on the trash, this suggests that portals were carried not by relatives but by outsiders for mass

          I can’t believe it.

          That's right - do not believe it.
          According to this "photo" + there was another one, with scattered St. George's ribbons near the ballot box, it was already written that this was the work of the "oppositionists" of the white-ribbon-liberal wing.
          Information about this was on the Internet and you can pick it up if you wish.
          Today, in the West and in the post-Soviet space, relying on the Grantoed two-legged abomination, a broad campaign has been launched to nullify the role of the USSR in the victory over fascism and forcing the people of Russia to repentance for the "occupation" ie. feat of fathers and grandfathers.
          These "photos" are one of the elements of the filthy activity of our home-grown liberalism, which is infuriated by the fact that miserable hundreds went to their "marches of millions", and millions went to the march of the "Immortal Regiment".
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    4. Midnight
      Midnight April 26 2016 11: 08
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      advertising production of banners "immortal regiment", indicating the production price and address.

      But what, do other people have to do them for you free of charge, outside their working hours?
      ALL MY LIFE that I went on holidays, ate "front-line" porridge for money, and no one made it to me for free!
      And with banners why should it be different? You feel sorry for 500 rubles or what ?! belay
      Quote: Gardamir
      gentlemen sitting in the Kremlin hating everything Soviet, suddenly loved the people?

      And since when did people live well in the USSR so that you would say such a thing?
      Smile already, but now I have each of the dogs meat and dairy products consumes more than people in the USSR !!!!
      Quote: Gardamir
      Why do the red banners and red stars change to the St. George ribbon?

      What it means change ? belay
      Do you really know the history of war and victory that you ask such crazy questions?
      Now, see for yourself why the St. George ribbon!
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir April 26 2016 12: 19
        -5
        But what, do other people have to do them for you free of charge, outside their working hours?
        But why do something, everyone can’t do it for himself, only ordered from high offices ..
        And since when did people live well in the USSR so that you would say such a thing?
        Smile already, but now I have each of the dogs meat and dairy products consumes more than people in the USSR !!!!
        People lived well. my father not only fought, but also worked after the war as a carpenter, the elite of the Soviet Union, so we had everything. And about meat and milk you lie. In the current sausage meat is 30%, milk and dairy products from palm oil.
        and the ribbon is not St. George's. and the guards.
        1. Midnight
          Midnight April 26 2016 12: 38
          -3
          Quote: Gardamir
          But why do something, everyone can’t do it for himself,

          Actually, it cannot, it is much easier for an ordinary person to give 500 rubles, not everyone had a father a carpenter, whose son can shave a shaft at any time at home.
          Quote: Gardamir
          worked after the war as a carpenter, the elite of the Soviet Union

          And I thought that in a normal country, ELITE is scientists, teachers, military, businessmen, etc.
          Quote: Gardamir
          In the current sausage meat is 30%, milk and dairy products from palm oil.

          Well that's enough nonsense.
          1. Not every sausage has "30% meat", there is also 100%, for which there is enough money, then buy.
          2. This sausage of yours "Soviet with rats" has not yet been bought anywhere, it was such that it was driven hundreds of kilometers away on a weekend.
          3. And no one forces you to use factory factories, you can go to the store and buy fresh meat!
          After all, the conversation was originally about the consumption of "meat and dairy products" that is natural meat First of all, it is natural meat that is cooked and eaten primarily at home in normal countries.
          And sausage in the USSR was popular because it was possible to make it Sandwiches and take them with you.
          And now, for example, I can call on the road to MacAvto and buy a hamburger, which may not be useful, but much tastier than an ordinary sandwich.
        2. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina April 26 2016 15: 09
          +8
          Quote: Gardamir
          and the ribbon is not St. George's. and the guards.


          Ribbon, just the same Georgievskaya! You have already lifted everyone present with your delirium. You were not the only ones living in the USSR, and you are not the only one who wants to return the USSR, but reading your nonsense is already sick.

          You are from the category of fanatics, just like you and are ready to destroy everything. The history of Russia was before the USSR and denying this means betraying the memory of its ancestors. Listen to you, so before the USSR, there were only mammoths on the territory of Russia.

          P.S. Sorry for the harshness, but I hate idiots and fans, both of them, the same Russian misfortune as fools and roads.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir April 26 2016 15: 55
            +1
            You already pulled up
            Hxtdblyj You are always rude.
            Unlike you, I know the history of my homeland well. I respect the heroes of St. George, but the Soviet soldiers defeated the Great Patriotic War. Just for you there is no history, the whole Soviet history should be crossed out, you think so. Why is the mausoleum for Victory Day tricolor? Where are the Soviet orders?
            And learn to argue culturally without insult.
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina April 26 2016 16: 25
              +7
              Quote: Gardamir
              Just for you there is no history, the whole Soviet history should be crossed out, you think so. Why is the mausoleum for Victory Day tricolor? Where are the Soviet orders?
              And learn to argue culturally without insult.


              I’m saying that the clinical one is going, because it’s impossible to insult you. Although this is not an insult, it is your diagnosis. Where did you find in my comments that I at least somehow belittle the history of the USSR ?! Well, give me at least one example ?! You can not?!

              But for you, the history of Russia before the creation of the USSR does not exist. Honor yourself.

              Although, you know, reading your nonsense, I begin to suspect more and more that you are not walking, you are rather a provocateur. You know, such a "patriot" is in VO, yelling like "communist" slogans of cursing and trashing the existing system, negating everything that was good and holy in our history. It seems like he praises the USSR and everything connected with it, BUT there is a nuance, as they say in Odessa! All your slogans and promises always come down to one thesis: the power in Russia is corrupt and criminal, and therefore illegal ...! That is, of course, you do not directly call for a coup, but you always see it from any topic so that you do not comment. I have been following you for a long time, and in general, this is exactly what I go to VO, to fight pseudo-patriots like you. Because in the end, people like you lead the country to collapse, and the people to destruction. You even managed to mix the "Immortal Regiment" with dirt, and that says a lot. You are here trying to belittle the significance of this event, citing the fact that it supposedly reminds you of a flash mob. FUCK, you don't like exactly that national impulse, that people's memory of their Great Victory!

              So no one you are not a patriot and does not even go, you are just another traitor, which, unfortunately, there are many!

              P.S. Well, now, you can splash me with your poisonous saliva, and trample me into the mud with your "irresistible" "arguments" ... I warn you in advance, I am not offended by the sick and violent!
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir April 26 2016 17: 35
                -2
                . I've been following you for a long time
                Where are my 15 years old?
            2. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina April 26 2016 16: 36
              +9
              Quote: Gardamir
              Unlike you, I know the history of my homeland well.


              It remains only to find out where "your Motherland, sonny" is ?!

              And by the way, what does your ava mean ?! Is this a shield, a wheel, a rotor or a rune ?!
        3. Pinkie F.
          Pinkie F. April 26 2016 16: 39
          0
          Quote: Gardamir
          worked after the war as a carpenter, the elite of the Soviet Union

          plumbers and crane operators even felt a little sad.
    5. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 26 2016 23: 43
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      Why do the red banners and red stars change to the St. George ribbon?

      Yes, they do not replace anything - they were and are together.
  11. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn April 26 2016 07: 59
    +6
    From Khakassia, many boys remained in Chechnya, so I fully understand the author, I am for!
  12. Engineer
    Engineer April 26 2016 08: 32
    +2
    Many do not know, but this action was conceived by the liberals, at the suggestion of the owners, in order to make the day of sorrow from the 9th of May, as it is in Geyrop. Therefore, St. George ribbons were banned, red flags were taken away. They want us to forget about the great Victory, began to associate May 9 only with the huge victims of the Soviet people, who supposedly could have been avoided if we did not have the Stalinist regime, which, in their opinion, provoked this war. But the people did not succeed in making a herd of obedient sheep, and support of this action at the highest level breathed new meaning into this procession. I do not agree with Starikov in any way: if the action was conceived as grief for the dead, now it glorifies all the heroes of that war. After all, portraits carry not only the dead, but also those who went through the whole war, who did not close their eyes at the machine tools, all those who contributed to our Victory. The old man is a worthless historian, but he stamps books one by one, so let him do this, and the people themselves will decide how to celebrate the Great Victory Day. And the number of participants in this action says that the people are for.
    1. Midnight
      Midnight April 26 2016 11: 14
      -2
      Quote: Engineer
      huge victims of the Soviet people, which supposedly could have been avoided, if we did not have the Stalinist regime

      Absolutely true!
      Here, by the way, relatively recently there was an article (rather correct and gentle) by Vyacheslav Shpakovsky about how worthless there were the results of exercises and inspections in the pre-war years, when it turned out that many soldiers didn’t even know how to shoot, and the commanders of almost all units did not know their duties!
      And do you think such an army could defend successfully?
      And who else to appoint responsible for this mess, if not personally Stalin and his marshals ?!
  13. dmitrii.safonov.dm
    dmitrii.safonov.dm April 26 2016 08: 43
    +4
    Why not go through a separate "box" and on VICTORY DAY !!!! Afghans and all those who died for their country must be remembered !!!! Remember us and pass on to your children!
  14. yurikh
    yurikh April 26 2016 08: 56
    +3
    Anyone who fought for Russia deserves a memorial day? Maybe. But if you make a separate day for each hot spot, there will be a mess. At first I treated this idea, perhaps, like a flash mob.
    I couldn’t attend every holiday on May 9, I work shift-wise, but last year I managed to come to the parade. The immortal regiment closed the procession and you know it was hooked. The first thing I thought about was how many people were killed. When the numbers say this is one thing, but when so many people are seen, these numbers are understood differently.
  15. cap
    cap April 26 2016 08: 58
    +6
    I’ll go to the event with a portrait of my mother, from the beginning to the end of World War II I served in the district hospital.
    Kingdom of heaven to her!
    How many lives saved, only God knows.
    Freaks who do not understand this, or do not take it exactly to paradise will not accept. am
  16. warrior1979
    warrior1979 April 26 2016 10: 34
    +2
    Quote: Andrew Y.

    And I remember the reproach from the old woman in the 80s ... When a young lieutenant with the Order of the Red Star heard - And is not it a shame? Grandfather shed blood for such an award, beat the Nazis, and you? And the lieutenant was walking along the street with the newly received order for Afghanistan. We did not even begin to explain to the granny that he deserved it. We understood her. And the lieutenant understood.
    Order
    I was an old woman alone at the station, having laughed, she said:
    -If you’re not ashamed, son, you start your life with deception.
    Somewhere the order bought, fastened and boast to people.
    Himself so young, only a gram of conscience will not.

    All such a tan, seen from vacation, from the hot south.
    There you walked for daddy’s money, had fun thoughtlessly.
    You take off do not disgrace, do not disgrace the front gray hair.
    What do you know, son, about the war, nothing pretty dear.

    What can I say to that old gray-haired woman, not to offend old age.
    But words in justification do not climb, as if into a burden.
    Only the order with his hand covered, so as not to spoil the insult.
    And I remembered the Afghan sky, our sky is transparent.

    I could tell that old woman how the mountains cried.
    As the snow suddenly blushed with red mountain ash,
    As mountain rivers drowned the last cries
    And how the sky threw burning MIGs to the earth.

    And I’ll tell you how grief breaks into the apartment.
    Like a mad mother they could not tear them from the grave.
    And then you, old woman, will understand and you will not condemn me.
    The order, as we have, in the bazaar you will not meet, you will not buy.

    And then you, old woman, will understand and you will not condemn me.
    The order, as we have, in the bazaar you will not meet, you will not buy.


    Author Unknown: Order - Lyrics http://mirpesen.com/en/neizvesten/orden.html#ixzz46tm7TrIC


    The author of the song "Order" is Yuri Alekseevich Slatov - Deputy Artistic Director - Head of the Concert Song and Dance Ensemble of the Airborne Troops of the Russian Federation, Honored Artist of the Russian Federation, Colonel.
  17. Midnight
    Midnight April 26 2016 10: 41
    -1
    The memory of the people lies in the fact of remembering those who once gave their lives for their homeland.

    Well said! Well, let's remember, remember all those who gave their lives for the victory, but there were many!
    Official Applies Only SOVIET GOVERNANCE this is about "more than 20 million killed" only at the front, and it’s only the losses well known at that time!
    And how many cases were "lost" in the turmoil of those years when the Soviet HenERals managed to "lose" entire divisions and ammunition depots? When after the search engines found these "divisions" in the woods and could not even determine "who all these people".
    Indirect data, taking into account in particular the number of all mobilized, as well as the ratio of the number of men and women in the USSR in 1941 and 1945, indicate the number of 35 млн approximate losses in the Second World War.
    In total, the demographic losses of the USSR, according to almost unanimous opinion of the researchers, were guaranteed to be more than 40 million people.
    TOTAL not less than 30 million at the front and not less than 10 million among the civilian population (and we will never know the exact numbers, people were considered worse then than the number of cattle on collective farms), the result of the attack on our country by Nazi Germany, which lost all its years about 6 million people on all fronts of 2MB!
    But, as the author writes correctly:
    But for some reason we are silent about these dead.

    Honestly, I would really did not want die in the Second World War and so that my descendants refused to acknowledge even the very fact of my existence and death!
    As if I didn’t live and didn’t go to war and didn’t die there!
    Because you see, the fact of my life and death prevents them from praying for a mustachioed Georgian, who sent his own citizens to die en masse in "Rzhev meat grinders"!
    PS You can sculpt a minus who has "Stalinism" instead of mind and conscience.
  18. rennim
    rennim April 26 2016 12: 30
    +2
    Victory Banner - Red Banner. It is necessary to issue Red ribbons. Even better with a hammer and sickle. A sign of Victory and the participation of all ordinary people of peasants and workers in the Second World War.
  19. igor67
    igor67 April 26 2016 14: 48
    -7
    Quote: Black
    , on the Internet there is a photo where portraits are lying in the trash, this suggests that portals were carried not by relatives but by outsiders for mass
    Sorry, of course, but you either blurted out without thinking, or a provocateur. What "is there a photo on the internet?" Is it really incomprehensible that this photo was a provocation of the liberal skewers, who posted it to each other and told how "the people were driven to the march" almost at gunpoint. All this is nonsense and a lie .... Think about it, and then this declare. After all, the head is given to you not only in order to eat into it ...

    Look at people who carry not "standard" portraits, but their own, and draw your own conclusions,
    1. Des10
      Des10 April 26 2016 15: 10
      +1
      Yes. There is such, after passing - to go home, and how to carry the portrait on - plainly no one knows and does not quite understand ... Time is it.
      But. The photograph you presented is not our feelings for the past war.
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    3. The black
      The black April 26 2016 15: 21
      0
      Look at people who carry not "standard" portraits, but their own, and draw your own conclusions,
      I don’t even want to argue. Not interesting. Firstly, provocateurs can be massaged for the sake of people for the sake of photos, and secondly, you can just make photoshop.
      Look online fakes on this topic. Examine the photo (carefully) and everything will become clear .... or just read how these fakes were made ...
  20. Black Hundred
    Black Hundred April 26 2016 15: 10
    -11%
    No, "tovarischi" you do not attach yourself to the victory of the Russian people. Whatever one may say, socialists of all persuasions have brewed so much trash in the 20th century that we will not disentangle it for a long time. Here you are red talking about red banners and all that. My grandmother, who at the age of 13 was taken to Germany for hard labor after returning to a country where "a man breathes easily" has just not wiped herself from spitting. She could not get married because the state propaganda of all the hijacked and captured were almost traitors. It's good that my grandfather put the device on all the Marxist trash. Although he was the captain of the SA, and the colleagues pumped up by this propaganda stopped communicating with him. So shove your red symbols away. And we, somehow, without you and without degenerates from your environment, which now settled in the Kremlin, Russia will restore. And eternal memory to all victims of socialism who died in this war.
    1. An60
      An60 April 26 2016 15: 31
      +1
      Already you "gentlemen" fought against Japan (1904-1905). The tsar was overthrown (in February 1917) in October, the power was profiled and the Civil lost, despite the help of the "allies".
      1. Black Hundred
        Black Hundred April 26 2016 16: 11
        -3
        Well, well))) Google at least who other than Japan has entered the war with Russia. Learn a lot of new things. And by the way, that war was "merged" by those who subsequently merged World War I who betrayed the Tsar and then fled from the Bolsheviks to the west in a woman's dress. It was not "we" who lost in the civil war, but a handful of liberal generals. The Russian principle played for the Bolsheviks, my hut on the edge. While you in St. Petersburg the girls of Smolny "nationalized" the rest of Russia sat and hoped that it would not affect her. Have sat
  21. Black Hundred
    Black Hundred April 26 2016 16: 29
    -9
    Quote: Black Hundreds
    Well, well))) Google at least who other than Japan has entered the war with Russia. Learn a lot of new things. And by the way, that war was "merged" by those who subsequently merged World War I who betrayed the Tsar and then fled from the Bolsheviks to the west in a woman's dress. It was not "we" who lost in the civil war, but a handful of liberal generals. The Russian principle played for the Bolsheviks, my hut on the edge. While you in St. Petersburg the girls of Smolny "nationalized" the rest of Russia sat and hoped that it would not affect her. Have sat

    P / S, and by the way, for believing, I believe you will answer. I am writing as a descendant of the repressed Kuban
    1. yastr
      yastr April 26 2016 17: 29
      +5
      Who you are? Not one of those present was telling anyone.

      How much can the history of your country be divided into pieces?
      When will you learn to take it in its entirety?
      Absolutely do not care who for whom: for the Reds, for the Whites. Both this and that is our story.
      Now there are neither one nor the other. A solid parody.
      But what if the family had both red and white (like mine)? Spit in your relatives?

      It is necessary to unite, and not divided into circles of interest.
  22. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 26 2016 19: 21
    +1
    The Immortal Regiment should not be touched. There are many "preposters" now, but the initiators timed this action to the Victory Day, so so be it. And it is right. The author is right about one thing, there have been many wars in our history, small and large. And it looks like there will be more. The Day of Remembrance of those who fell for the Fatherland in wars is simply necessary, it seems to me.
    1. Black Hundred
      Black Hundred April 26 2016 21: 17
      -3
      I completely agree. But to smear it with any paint and try to present it as a victory of the communists over the Nazis in my opinion is wrong. When I wrote about "you" I meant followers of ideology. And as I already wrote glory to the heroes. Not to those who in stacks with machine guns nagged but those who were breastfeeding on the embrasure. I have been in search units since the age of 15, so there is no point in reproaching me for being unpatriotic. People went not for Lenin Stalin, but for their homes for their loved ones. They are heroes. But I am against attributing this victory to some party. This is the victory of the Russian people. And Russian will always be. And the red ones can only minus. To refute my words either there is not enough knowledge or conscience to admit that I am wrong. I am a monarchist. But the victory in the Second World War is also my victory, the victory of my family of my people. No matter how the pariah-helmsman tried to attribute it to himself. And by the way, minus the question. You attributed the victory to yourself. But here's what I have not seen your party members up to their ears in the slurry on memory watches. Only stick ribbons and bow to Lenin
      1. Pre-cat
        Pre-cat April 26 2016 22: 35
        +6
        Victory, nevertheless, belongs to the SOVIET people. Representatives of all nationalities fought. And the organizer was the Communist Party. Then there were still communists who were the first to attack. And, with all due respect to the monarchical form of government, the last emperor of Russia showed his complete unsuitability.
  23. Pre-cat
    Pre-cat April 26 2016 22: 38
    +1
    Yes, it would be nice to remember on Victory Day and to remember all those who died after it while doing their duty. After all, wherever they died - in Vietnam, Angola or Afghanistan - they defended their homeland.
  24. Ossetian
    Ossetian April 26 2016 23: 20
    +4
    And I will go to Victory Day in the column of the "Immortal Regiment" and carry the portrait of my grandfather, I consider it my duty in relation to him. I am purple on the "red" \ "white", \ "liberals" \ "patriots", my grandfather went through that war.
  25. Cobra77
    Cobra77 April 27 2016 03: 29
    +2
    Quote: Black Hundreds

    P / S, and by the way, for believing, I believe you will answer. I am writing as a descendant of the repressed Kuban


    Yeah, another innocent "repressed". Maybe then show / tell the case on which the ancestor was drunk? They are now open. You can familiarize yourself. And then there are many of these "not at all." And as soon as you look at it, even now there are 10-20 years of strict grabbing.