Western analysts: the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation surpass NATO on a number of grounds

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Analysts of the Rand Corporation research center David Shlapak and Michael Johnson modeled a hypothetical conflict and revealed Russia's advantage over NATO on a number of grounds. Reports about it RIA News with reference to the War on the Rocks portal.



Earlier, Chief of Staff of the US Army Mark Milli said in the Senate that "Russia is superior to the United States in terms of the range and number of weapons."

“Is this data accurate?” The researchers ask. And state: "Unfortunately, yes."

They modeled a situation in which the Russian Federation attacks the Baltic countries, and concluded that NATO forces would be defeated in a few days.

The Russian Defense Ministry is capable of “deploying 10 battalions in full combat readiness in 27 days or so. These are 30-50 thousand soldiers, ”the authors write. “At the same time, all Russian troops will be equipped with armored vehicles - tanks, BMP and so on. NATO, meanwhile, will be able to oppose them only with weak defense forces, ”they believe.

According to analysts, “Russia will have an initial advantage over NATO in terms of the number of tanks in the ratio of 7: 1, in the number of infantry fighting vehicles — 5: 1, attack helicopters — 5: 1; , short-range air defense systems - 4: 1 and by the number of long-range air defense systems in the ratio 16: 1 ".

“But numbers are not the only problem. The fact is that Russian cannons and artillery beat far longer distances than their counterparts in service with the United States, ”they emphasize.

“American cannon artillery is capable of hitting targets at a distance from 14 to 24 kilometers, while the most common Russian self-propelled howitzer has a firing range of 29 kilometers,” the researchers note.

“As for the power superiority of armaments, the situation is less obvious here, but it is in any case less favorable for the United States than it is customary to think. Modern Russian tanks and BMP have more sophisticated armor, weapon and sensors, and in some areas — in particular, with regard to active defense systems against anti-tank guided missiles — Russia is superior to its Western counterparts, ”write Shlapak and Johnson.

They also pay attention to poorly developed logistics and insufficient capabilities of the NATO command.

As a result, the authors conclude: “NATO in its current state is losing to Russia in terms of the number of troops, in terms of the range and power of armaments, and suffers from a number of complex problems that make the situation worse.”
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  1. +18
    April 25 2016 09: 13
    the longer they are afraid of us, the longer there will be no third world war.
    1. +21
      April 25 2016 09: 41
      “NATO, in its current state, is losing to Russia in terms of troop numbers, range and power of weapons, and suffers from a number of complex problems that make the situation worse.”

      And why are they afraid of our complexes. request They just ask for money.
      1. +15
        April 25 2016 09: 45
        Still would be superior in terms of living, generally Lafa would be.
        1. +28
          April 25 2016 10: 01
          On the face of another attempt to "Suck" money for the strengthening / rearmament of NATO forces, or rather the US military contingent in Eastern Europe ... I am so moved when I see growing exponentially (on the pages of Western magazines) Russian troops, both in quantity and quality ... I wish our liberals could read such notes about the fact that the United States and all its hangers-on are trailing behind Russia in terms of quality / power / range / innovation / quantity / mobility of weapons!
          In short, to summarize another "ode to Russian weapons" from the pages of Western media, we can say that the military and military-industrial complex of NATO countries, and in particular the United States, REALLY want money (which is not so much now and there is not enough for everyone) and no more. Again, I did not see a structured / analytical approach to the situation that may arise in a possible theater of DB in Eastern Europe (from this article), which once again confirms only a primitive desire to cut the dough on military orders to NATO in connection with the fantastic "Russian threat" more.

          P.S. Nah ... We are your Balts and Psheki? No, really? Feed them yourself, supply them ourselves, we have already fed in the USSR now it is your turn "Possible partners" to find out what gratitude from the "Liberated" is ... laughing
          1. +7
            April 25 2016 10: 32
            I completely agree. The guys from the military corporations need money, so they scare everyone with the "Russian threat". About the seizure of the Baltic states by Russia is no longer funny. These are certainly not needed for nothing.
            1. 0
              April 25 2016 12: 38
              Quote: Kent0001
              I completely agree. The guys from the military corporations need money, so they scare everyone with the "Russian threat". About the seizure of the Baltic states by Russia is no longer funny. These are certainly not needed for nothing.

              This is true, a specific hint: if you want security from a "threat" (imaginary) - pay money ...
        2. 0
          April 25 2016 12: 39
          surpass, not immediately of course
          but migrants from the Middle East will help us level levels
        3. +2
          April 25 2016 14: 09
          Still would be superior in terms of living, generally Lafa would be.


          The best koment +10000
        4. -1
          April 25 2016 15: 55
          Quote: Stalker.1977
          Still would so superior in terms of living, generally Lafa would be.

          In terms of living we surpass the west same, as with conventional weapons, that is - no way. sad
          Where do these superiorities come from?
          Compare the economic potential of Russia and NATO countries! request
          As the saying goes, all this - lies, empty talk and provocation! wassat
      2. +4
        April 25 2016 10: 23
        Urya !!!
        We are all stronger !!!
        We will tear NATO as a Tuzik ... !!!
        Yes, all this nonsense.
        See how they compare:
        Russia will possess initial advantage before NATO in the number of tanks in the ratio of 7: 1, in the number of infantry fighting vehicles - 5: 1, attack helicopters - 5: 1, etc.

        I translate into Russian:
        Russia's advantage over NATO is possible if:
        - Russia was the first to attack the Baltic countries,
        - this advantage may be only in the Baltic countries,
        - and only in the initial period of timeuntil all the allies of these "Baltic Tigers" come up.
        Then a natural question - why all this whining?
        Response:
        Quote: vovanpain
        They are asking for money ...

        smile
      3. 0
        April 25 2016 11: 16
        Quote: vovanpain
        “NATO, in its current state, is losing to Russia in terms of troop numbers, range and power of weapons, and suffers from a number of complex problems that make the situation worse.”

        That I hardly believe in these games, especially in terms of numbers, is necessary to compare with the tables. Another thing is what state it is in.
    2. 0
      April 25 2016 09: 54
      Quote: newbie
      high
      the longer they are afraid of us, the longer there will be no third world war.

      But I think that this is done for completely different purposes - asking for additional money from Congress!
      1. 0
        April 25 2016 10: 06
        Such a "study" should justify the buildup of the staff of their military presence in Europe. Although NATO has really degraded.
    3. 0
      April 25 2016 09: 58
      Quote: newbie
      the longer they are afraid of us, the longer there will be no third world war.

      They need a rationale for strengthening NATO units in the Baltics. It is not for nothing that recently all Inosmi are only discussing how many days Sprotland will hold out after the Russian attack and when Russia will start supporting the Russians in the Baltic states. Well, and "milking" the defense budget.
    4. +1
      April 25 2016 10: 14
      Quote: newbie
      the longer they fear us,

      They are not afraid of us, but the loot is driven out of their governments. hi
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    6. +1
      April 25 2016 11: 15
      If the enemy flatter you - wait for trouble. Mostly I want to trust my analysts. hi
    7. +5
      April 25 2016 12: 34
      They simulated a situation in which the Russian Federation attacks the Baltic states, and came to the conclusion that NATO forces will be defeated in a few days "
      ... here the very dog ​​is buried .. Why should Russia attack the Baltic countries? WHAT FOR?..
      The problems of the Baltic countries within them .. and they can blow up the situation .. in the countries themselves by the people themselves .. who will get tired of pro-Western rulers.
      ..and it was already .. in the recent history
    8. +2
      April 25 2016 12: 39
      As a result, the authors conclude: "NATO in its current state .... suffers from a number of complex problems that make the situation worse."
      .. yes, the Blue Army will never defeat the Red .. and don’t go to a fortuneteller laughing
    9. 0
      April 25 2016 15: 38
      They also forgot about the motivation to fight our and the NATO military.
    10. 0
      April 25 2016 20: 06
      I don’t want to prove anything to you. Just leave it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQpIZ4SdSUY
      You decide what to do with it.
  2. +11
    April 25 2016 09: 17
    No gentlemen, the Russians surpass you not in a number of ways, but in the most important thing, in strength of mind. But of course, the quantity and quality of weapons play a role, this gives the troops inspiration.
  3. +9
    April 25 2016 09: 17
    By the way, they forgot the most important thing: the high spirit of the Russian warrior.
  4. +7
    April 25 2016 09: 18
    People have nothing to do but scare the Balts with an attack of terrible Russia. If you don’t provoke, the Baltic States are not needed for nothing
    1. +3
      April 25 2016 09: 23
      Quote: nazar_0753
      The Baltic States do not need us for nothing


      you don’t need it, as history shows, if not with us, then against us, therefore it is better with us.
  5. +2
    April 25 2016 09: 20
    Ros56, sorry, about the high spirit you beat me.
    1. +1
      April 25 2016 09: 42
      Whoever got up, that and slippers. hi
  6. 0
    April 25 2016 09: 20
    They do not take into account the main thing - the nature of the soldiers of Russia and their love for the motherland.
    1. +2
      April 25 2016 09: 25
      Quote: atamankko
      They do not take into account the main thing - the nature of the soldiers of Russia and their love for the motherland.

      The First World War, there, at the beginning, too, they were ready to shower Berlin with hats, but it ended with what is known, and all because there was no clear concept of "what are we fighting for?", Motherland is not only the place where you were born, but also the attitude of the authorities to the people
    2. -1
      April 25 2016 11: 46
      When you have Kalash, and the enemy has a pair of BMPs with cover from shock UAVs - no fortitude will save.
  7. +1
    April 25 2016 09: 27
    Aha-ah! It became scary ?! If you want "something spicy", you will get it right on the border! - Already tired of the analysis of their urine, or urine.
  8. +1
    April 25 2016 09: 27
    All these publications for Europe, "Look terrible Russia, let us open more bases for you, we will bring more tanks, the main thing is pay, pay, pay" and the Americans too "See our allies are threatened by a strong Russia defense budget needs more, more, more ( aaa saw, saw, saw) "
  9. +3
    April 25 2016 09: 27
    Surpasses the USA, to fight with NATO, to conquer the Baltic states. This is what they have in their head, judging by the article. In my opinion this is a severe phase of schizophrenia. Doctors on the site?
    1. 0
      April 26 2016 06: 10
      They need a gynecologist or a psychiatrist plumber. With their "chakras" something needs to be done.
  10. +1
    April 25 2016 09: 28
    They think, pretend to be ... But they don’t think about the main question, but why the hell do we need this Baltic to capture it? Well, of course, if they themselves do not jump. Bookkeepers ...
  11. 0
    April 25 2016 09: 32
    Well ..., very good (for us) if everything listed in the plan of ratios corresponds to reality. Now the US generals will have something to "frighten" the Congress, justifying the increased "to heaven" spending on "defense".
  12. +4
    April 25 2016 09: 33
    Quote: sa-ag

    The homeland is not only the place where you were born, but also the attitude of the authorities towards the people

    Is it possible to expand the thesis about the attitude of the authorities towards the people? Does this mean, in your opinion, that if the thieving governor has not asphalted your route to work, you can not defend your homeland?
    Or, for example, there is another white tape ma'am in use: "I will not go to fight for Abramovich's yacht." Do you support?
    1. +10
      April 25 2016 10: 56
      Quote: Moore
      Quote: sa-ag

      The homeland is not only the place where you were born, but also the attitude of the authorities towards the people

      Is it possible to expand the thesis about the attitude of the authorities towards the people? Does this mean, in your opinion, that if the thieving governor has not asphalted your route to work, you can not defend your homeland?
      Or, for example, there is another white tape ma'am in use: "I will not go to fight for Abramovich's yacht." Do you support?


      Bravo! You can say they took it off the tongue, I thought about the same thing when I read this comment. I am generally touched by such assumptions; one would think that in them, their beloved mattress, the attitude of the authorities towards the people is better than ours.
  13. +2
    April 25 2016 09: 40
    In fact, the Baltic states were bought from Sweden by Russia. Paid in gold. These are our lands by law.
    But the USA did not pay for Alaska, so this is also our land.
    What are these people doing on our lands? It is time to take our money from them and demand a fine for use.
  14. +1
    April 25 2016 09: 40
    NATO is the field in which exclusively the American military-industrial complex is fed. Therefore, the more countries in NATO, the wider and tastier the field. The more terrible Russia's advantage in the European theater of war, the more willing is the allocation of finance for defense, which only the US military-industrial complex will master. For this, all these articles are written; for this, the real possibilities of all parties and the causes and conditions of the conflict are not considered. Somehow it goes without saying that we need the territories of the Baltic countries. In short, for the sake of successful haymaking in Europe, they (clients of the US military-industrial complex) will issue any forecast, they may even find Obama’s Russian citizenship, and he most likely will not deny it for the same reasons.
  15. bad
    0
    April 25 2016 09: 41
    Earlier, Chief of Staff of the US Army Mark Milli said in the Senate that "Russia is superior to the United States in terms of the range and number of weapons."

    “Is this data accurate?” The researchers ask. And state: "Unfortunately, yes."
    .. they need money .. impoverished .. laughing
  16. +1
    April 25 2016 09: 43
    Statistics (arithmetic) is good in accounting. and in military science need a different mathematics - higher and integral? Even if NATO generals "build meat on bones", they will not build "muscles" - they are loose. smug. office strategists !? However, like these American so-called military analysts and experts. But the Russian army also has an "Achilles' heel" - operational planning and improvement of the operational art of strategy and tactics of waging a separate battle. and wars in general are still lagging behind the required modern level? But everything is new. as is known. this is well forgotten old! For example, the Germans' lightning-fast defeat of the Anglo-French corps near Dunkirk ("Strategy for an Indirect Strike" planned by Paulus and implemented by Manstein) or a frontal ram attack on a narrow front in Anders Guderian ("Tanks. Forward"!). As it is said in one well-known anecdote about the timing of the NATO attack on the USSR (RF): "We are now at the construction site of the national economy and economic growth, prisoners of war to the brink of need! Attack ...."
  17. +2
    April 25 2016 09: 55
    Too snotty, too. It looks like another begging for money and the deployment of an even larger contingent of pins under the guise of evil Russians.
  18. +1
    April 25 2016 09: 56
    The British can not be trusted! In each of their words - poison and hatred! Surely they started some muck. So it's too early to relax!
  19. 0
    April 25 2016 09: 57
    Funny boys - think u-est-Estonian, already 4 (!) Days for occupation. Estimate, dudes, in 5 minutes we’ll capture the telegraph by the efforts of the reconnaissance platoon and hold on until the approach of the main forces from the Far East, 12 hours. Have you heard? Che, can’t sleep?
    And we will arrange logistics for you. It will be delicious to snort, arrogant faces.
  20. +2
    April 25 2016 09: 57
    It is clear that we will not attack any Baltic states. And the west also understands this very well.
    Why then an article? Just for the sake of one: knock out money. Intimidate congresses, parliamentarians and others with the Russian threat and get more money for the new F-35s for $ 100 billion.
    Here, many criticize these aircraft, but it is necessary to do exactly the opposite: praise these F-35s! They must be praised !!
    This will be politically correct. Let them build.
  21. 0
    April 25 2016 09: 57
    Give me money, nothing new ...
  22. +5
    April 25 2016 10: 11
    Western analysts: the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation surpass NATO on a number of grounds

    Did these "analysts" look at the tablet? Or "count" NATO separately, states separately? Sorry - these are not "flies with cutlets". And NATO is de facto a US puppet!
    1. +1
      April 25 2016 15: 35
      In a land war on ICBMs, all forces will be nullified - so what NATO is superior to us in and we are superior to NATO - it doesn’t matter.
  23. +2
    April 25 2016 10: 11
    "Western analysts" are now wondering why there are still those in Russia who cover a grenade with their bodies, who call fire on themselves, who are not sold for a "beautiful life" in Miami, who work and create formidable weapons, receiving absolutely small salary. And they are only 20-30 years old. They wonder why there are still designers of these weapons in Russia, there are programmers who can destroy the entire American administration, there are pilots who are capable of performing aerobatics, about which the Americans can only be told by their NATO colleagues - the French, and even then deep veterans.
    After all, it seemed to them that Hollywood and McDonalds did everything to prevent this from happening. But no, it is and will be in the foreseeable 1000 years. And as NATO will present, what it has done over the past 20 years in the world, the hair of the members of this bloc stands on end when they pretend that they will have to answer for everything sooner or later! And not collectively, but personally to someone. So they are plotting in the hope of delaying punishment!
    1. +1
      April 25 2016 10: 47
      Just one example when the West was responsible for all its meannesses?
      1. 0
        April 25 2016 14: 09
        I think the West will answer for its "minor" mischief, but the military component should not be included in the response. There are other tools (not to involve diplomats), and these tools are there.
        1. 0
          April 25 2016 17: 50
          Oddly enough, our people answer: either gas at a discount, now a delay in debt, or patience in the abduction of our people around the world.
  24. +1
    April 25 2016 10: 13
    Of course, they write a lot of articles now. They write detailed calculations with infographics, with the number of weapons of the parties. About what capabilities NATO countries and the United States itself have. In general, since the Cold War, NATO armies have significantly blown away, a number of vehicles in armored vehicles and aviation are in a deplorable state, there are no spare parts and weapons. Even repairs are carried out by the "cannibalism" method - disassembling one car to repair others. And it seems like a bright picture for us. But we probably also have similar problems, although a lot of equipment is supplied to the troops. In terms of logistics, we also have problems in the sense that the airfields are private. And there were cases that they refused to refuel ILov VTA, or they waited for a long time for the Ministry of Defense to transfer money for kerosene (!!!). Absurd, of course. Probably, they can hypothetically refuse to board. Anything can be. Aviation businessmen are like that. When help is needed, they generously go into the pocket of the state for subsidies, of course, you can't expect any good from them. In general, there are such inconsistencies between the interests of the state and our valiant private traders, who still want to get the state slices. According to the United States and NATO themselves, the United States has a large fleet of logistics transport platforms with which they can quickly build up a land force, now China has the same. But the United States is now betting on a disarming strike by the Aegis missile defense system, which is dual-use, since it understands that their chances are small on land. And they prefer to wage war with the hands of insurgents, themselves remaining above the battle. Hybrid warriors are more useful for the United States, much less money is spent, and their reputation does not seem to suffer, so the nature of future wars is visible now. In them, the combat unit is more intellectualized and mobile, even the same tank or plane.
  25. +2
    April 25 2016 10: 17
    “NATO in its current state loses to Russia in terms of the number of troops, range and power of weapons, and suffers from a number of complex problems,


    He suffers from debility. Basically
  26. +1
    April 25 2016 10: 21
    On the other hand, though, there is a very wise Chinese proverb: "Fear when the enemy praises you."
  27. +1
    April 25 2016 10: 24
    Quote: Now we are free
    On the face of another attempt to "Suck" money for the strengthening / rearmament of NATO forces, or rather the US military contingent in Eastern Europe ... I am so moved when I see growing exponentially (on the pages of Western magazines) Russian troops, both in quantity and quality ... I wish our liberals could read such notes about the fact that the United States and all its hangers-on are trailing behind Russia in terms of quality / power / range / innovation / quantity / mobility of weapons!
    In short, to summarize another "ode to Russian weapons" from the pages of Western media, we can say that the military and military-industrial complex of NATO countries, and in particular the United States, REALLY want money (which is not so much now and there is not enough for everyone) and no more. Again, I did not see a structured / analytical approach to the situation that may arise in a possible theater of DB in Eastern Europe (from this article), which once again confirms only a primitive desire to cut the dough on military orders to NATO in connection with the fantastic "Russian threat" more.

    P.S. Nah ... We are your Balts and Psheki? No, really? Feed them yourself, supply them ourselves, we have already fed in the USSR now it is your turn "Possible partners" to find out what gratitude from the "Liberated" is ... laughing

    Absolutely agree!
    First, they will say "they are superior in everything," then "give money for rearmament," and so on. etc.
    And the main thing for us is not to get involved in the arms race, otherwise again the economy is about ... m
  28. +1
    April 25 2016 10: 43
    Do not meddle with us and everything will be fine. And the Baltic States didn’t give up to us.
  29. +1
    April 25 2016 10: 44
    So the "analysts" are connected.
    And again this Baltic.

    Concentration of 30-35 thousand people, and even with equipment, with headquarters, with ammunition for what? For the "Baltic tigers"?

    But the special forces with the airborne forces can not do?
    With km to fight there?
    What kind of troops?
    With those who are recruited to the local, or with those who protect them will arrive.
    So while they get together and arrive - it's all over.

    They scared themselves. They themselves painted passions.
    And now, day after day, they will continue to escalate hysteria.

    Reminded!
    Take me! Well, take it!
  30. 0
    April 25 2016 11: 14
    Funny research, but what about the NATO preemptive strike strategy on the Russian Federation, and where are the rest of the analytical research. Published the most unlikely scenario.
    Let the working versions of the calculations be published so that the world sees their vile insides.
    Or, as always, at 04:00 Moscow time?
    With the gentry and the Lithuanians squeeze on the maintenance of the mattress army, yes.
    However, with the free movement of information flows, it is very difficult to hide the facts of preparation for operations in adjacent territories and the main task of such stuffing, the creation of a large information overload in order to conceal or not inform the likely enemy in a timely manner. At the crucial moment it will be very difficult for us all to believe what has begun again.
  31. 0
    April 25 2016 11: 16
    I do not like these moods over the hill. Right now they have one topic - Russia - the aggressor. And already making plans how to conquer everyone and everything. This is shitty, such a stuffing, I do not think that corresponding to the real state of affairs, the next portion of the hawka for the brains of these people. They need to make sure that everyone considers Russia a dangerous aggressor. Then in the event of hostilities, most will support them.
  32. -2
    April 25 2016 11: 21
    Mattresses are pulling Europeans into increasing spending on weapons. Well, and for one, beg the money from the US Congress for the next cut ...
    1. +1
      April 25 2016 11: 46
      the tablet is divorced from reality. generally the data is about nothing. minus mine
      1. 0
        April 25 2016 12: 08
        Do you really own the information? ....
        1. +1
          April 25 2016 14: 28
          In reality, probably even the chief committees do not always own it.
          So where did you get the strength of our army at 1.26 million people?
          There was a long time of understaffing at about 800.
          Honestly, these numbers do not mean anything.
          Number of tanks: are we talking about t-14, t-90A or t55A? The same is with NATO: Abrams of the latest modifications or Patton?
          I mean, the real balance of power is not visible, and this is the only and main task of the table.
          1. 0
            April 25 2016 15: 19
            In all tables, as far as I know, an approximate balance of forces is given ...
            At the expense of the number of tanks and other equipment, I think that you yourself know that this is the total ...
            1. 0
              April 25 2016 15: 38
              Quote: gelezo47
              In all tables, as far as I know, an approximate balance of forces is given ...

              yes, but 1.26 and 0.8 million are very different.
              if we talk about the ratio of the number of equipment, then, in principle, with a huge error, you can consider the plate to be true, but it does not reflect the real balance of power of the parties.
              I think it makes no sense to argue about this. Everything here is quite clear and obvious.
    2. 0
      April 25 2016 11: 53
      Carriers do not count (they are not for a continental war, especially with a country like Russia - they are NOT SUITABLE, because we cannot block the strategic sea routes for delivering raw materials, all raw materials in our territory), and for the rest of the list I’ll say - the table shows general data, but the fact remains that the US forces are very distributed around the world, it is necessary to provide data on Europe!
  33. 0
    April 25 2016 11: 31
    The conclusion from this scribble is that we urgently need to cram additional forces into Europe. It’s not original, and it has become boring already.
  34. 0
    April 25 2016 11: 44
    American experts did not take into account yet another advantage of the Russian Armed Forces over NATO forces, the most important: the fortitude of Russian soldiers!
  35. 0
    April 25 2016 11: 45
    A typical way of Western "experts" to cut their defense budget.
    But the phrase
    The Russian Defense Ministry is capable of “deploying 10 battalions in full combat readiness in 27 days or so. These are 30-50 thousand soldiers ”

    It seems a little wrong.
    Given that during the exercises almost 100 are thrown in a couple of days.

    in particular with regard to active defense systems against anti-tank guided missiles - Russia is superior to its Western counterparts ”

    A long time ago I did not see active defense on our tanks, not counting the T-14 with Afghanite.

    In general, this approach pleases me and I sincerely hope that such "experts" are the overwhelming majority there.
    They are used to winning by quantity and on the same scale assess chances and opportunities, and this is fundamentally wrong.
  36. +1
    April 25 2016 11: 48
    Pulling money out of the pocket of states. In the process, they counted all the equipment produced by the USSR / Russia.
    1. 0
      April 25 2016 11: 54
      Quote: Forest
      Pulling money out of the pocket of states. In the process, they counted all the equipment produced by the USSR / Russia.

      Yes, agitation. "Mom, dad, give me money!" And from the pockets of not only their state. All of Europe will pay.
      1. 0
        April 25 2016 14: 41
        So the main thing is that Europe just shell out. And then you can suck her something like your old MREP.
  37. +2
    April 25 2016 11: 57
    !!! V N I M A N I U - A B T O R O V - S T A T E Y !!!

    I ask all authors to provide accurate links to the articles themselves, and not to the resources on which they are located. Especially if the resources are foreign-language, because it’s hard to find an article that the author refers to there, but without a real link (in a dispute with enemies on the Internet) the facts from the article can’t be sewn to anything!

    If the resource is closed (by registration), take screenshots and attach them to the article in the proper quantity and quality!

    Thank you in advance!
    1. 0
      April 25 2016 12: 07
      Here is the link to the original - http://warontherocks.com/2016/04/outnumbered-outranged-and-outgunned-how-russia-
      defeats-nato /
  38. +1
    April 25 2016 12: 01
    Where to place so many of our troops and equipment on the territory of the Baltic states? After such an article, NATO will bring its armed forces to full combat readiness.
  39. vv3
    0
    April 25 2016 12: 09
    And in what they are not superior? And what is the United States aside? And most importantly: do they know about our shortcomings, or rather failures? Our Uryata do not notice much ... Alas, they know! Even in the open statements of foreign military analysts, the idea was expressed about weak integration (interaction) of reconnaissance means (information support) with ground and other means of destruction. We have modern means of destruction, but we do not know how to effectively use all their advantages! .. We are lagging behind - in the ability to control modern non-nuclear weapons in a dynamic battle. And even more precisely in the information support of this battle. Even simpler is the algorithm of the commander's actions: he received information, made a decision, transmitted instructions, checked the implementation ... But there is no information. If the commander receives information at the moment of contact with the enemy, these are losses, this is not a modern war, this is a guaranteed defeat in modern combat ... In this case, superiority in technology and in spirit is reduced to "0".
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  41. 0
    April 25 2016 12: 21
    some kind of kindergarten and not analysis or modeling :) Well, let it go, the conclusion is correct :))
    And why did they, in the west, all rest against this Baltic region that we would attack it? No, well, in the light of extorting money, it’s understandable to send additional NATO troops there, but from a military point of view, they didn’t give up, Baltic states! Sprats even ended there ... Her, you need to attack Poland - there are a lot of apples, have a bite :)
  42. +2
    April 25 2016 12: 29
    The author forgot about the most important component of the combat power of the army - a moral and psychological factor. Recall. Only as a result of Cook's flight in the Black Sea, 26 American sailors were discharged ashore. It is clear as day that after the first major losses no NATO will go to war for the fascist provocateurs from the Baltic.
  43. 0
    April 25 2016 12: 35
    It's hard to trust these "experts" who ask for money .... but nice good
  44. 0
    April 25 2016 13: 36
    Again hysteria escalates. Poor Baltic, you are so defenseless against Russia. Yes tries you need something?
  45. 0
    April 25 2016 14: 14
    we need new bases near our borders, and the Baltic states and the EU have a nightmare, but they didn’t bother us anywhere, let them feed them now once they tamed the doggies
  46. 0
    April 25 2016 14: 32
    The scenario according to which Russia for several years completely BUys the Baltic countries I like much more (as now bought Russian ports, railways, etc.) !!!
  47. 0
    April 25 2016 22: 04
    The advantage in Artillery 4/1, it is necessary to refine. Not an order.
  48. 0
    April 26 2016 17: 13
    “American cannon artillery is capable of hitting targets at a distance from 14 to 24 kilometers, while the most common Russian self-propelled howitzer has a firing range of 29 kilometers,” the researchers note.

    A tale about how some delitants (in the role of "researchers") intimidate other delitants:
    Max. the firing range of 152 mm Msta-S self-propelled guns (barrel length 47 clb.) with conventional and active-rocket projectiles 24,7 and 29 km, respectively, the same characteristics for 155-mm self-propelled guns M109A6 (39 class) - 24 and 30 km. So to speak, pulled out of context and presented from the right side. The famous "Pentagon Wars", the film was also shot by fofans for fofans, and some here admire them, without even understanding, BMP Bradley, as a result, is not even shown from the bad side, it is shown that having not decided on the concept and technical. requirements for the future BMP, delayed the creation for decades, spending the Wed-va.