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"Coalition-SV" will receive satellite-guided munitions

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The newest self-propelled howitzer "Coalition-SV" will receive high-precision projectiles with satellite guidance, reports RIA News a message from the head of the defense order for the defense ministry, Mikhail Osyko.


"Coalition-SV" will receive satellite-guided munitions


“Coalition-SV” is a project with the development of a new set of ammunition, including high-precision ammunition, which will significantly increase the range and accuracy of destruction, ”said Osyko on the radio of RSN radio.

To the question of the program leader, whether this missile would be satellite-guided, the colonel answered in the affirmative.

"When all the necessary tests have been completed and will be supplied to the troops, this will also be absolutely fair to be considered accurate. weapons", - he said.

Help Agency: “The 152 mm self-propelled howitzer of the 2C35 Coalition-SV brigade unit is designed to destroy tactical nuclear weapons, artillery and mortar batteries, tanks and other armored vehicles, anti-tank weapons, manpower, air defense and missile defense systems, command posts. "
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RIA News. Ramil Sitdikov
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  2. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock April 24 2016 11: 28
    +11
    The range, as I understand it, will be 70 kilometers from this satellite-guided missile?
    Still, the ATGM Hermes would have been brought to mind.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv April 24 2016 12: 22
      +7
      Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
      The range, as I understand it, will be 70 kilometers from this satellite-guided missile?

      Range 70 is the shooting of ordinary ammunition. Effective control is possible to reduce speed. The so-called controlled fall. Somewhere in the region of 40-50 km
      1. cniza
        cniza April 24 2016 12: 33
        +4
        A formidable weapon, it’s not for nothing that they are so afraid of it, and now it’s also highly accurate.
        1. ver_
          ver_ April 25 2016 05: 15
          0
          ..they (shells) were already high-precision "Krasnopolye" ..
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      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 24 2016 13: 16
        +5
        Quote: Tusv
        Range 70 is the shooting of ordinary ammunition.

        Somewhere "in the wrong direction"? It makes no sense to shoot at such ranges with conventional ammunition
        1. Tusv
          Tusv April 24 2016 15: 57
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          Somewhere "in the wrong direction"? It makes no sense to shoot at such ranges with conventional ammunition

          Well, since the creators of the Coalition have set their sights on such a range, it means that there is still sense
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 April 24 2016 19: 33
            +1
            Partners at 120 are already shooting. True to the fleet.
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 24 2016 19: 40
            0
            It means that they aimed to shoot precisely with the ammunition referred to in the message.
            1. vv3
              vv3 April 24 2016 22: 11
              -4
              Lopatov, as I understand it, the commander and gunner, next to the commander, in the trench will determine the target with 70 km binoculars? Why such a firing range if there is no direct or centralized target designation from the UAV, and there is no ESU TK control system, integrate the UAV with a sufficient radius of action into it, the Coalition itself and then already talk about the required firing range. It’s not your drawbacks and tales to tell.
              1. silver_roman
                silver_roman April 25 2016 11: 50
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                It’s like there is a BIUS there, though there is no UAV in the complex. But no one denies intelligence and x use. 70 km away. it makes sense to shoot if the target is stationary and large enough, i.e. not a tank. And if you shoot TNW (there seems to be such an opportunity), it doesn’t matter what’s there: + -100 meters - anyway.

                In general, is the article talking about "Krasnopol" or something new?
        2. Asadullah
          Asadullah April 24 2016 16: 00
          +2
          Somewhere "in the wrong direction"?


          What kind of shell? Krasnopol D? So just do not need to highlight, otherwise weave behind everyone. In the event of a global conflict, as I understand it, there will be no satellites. There will be no satellites, no shells.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 24 2016 19: 49
            +2
            A shell is needed, at least with an inertial control system. Adding correction according to global positioning is even better. To provide an opportunity to fasten a semi-active infrared seeker if it is possible to highlight the target is generally excellent.
            1. Rader
              Rader April 24 2016 20: 34
              0
              Quote: Spade
              A shell is needed, at least with an inertial control system. Adding correction according to global positioning is even better. To provide an opportunity to fasten a semi-active infrared seeker if it is possible to highlight the target is generally excellent.

              Uh ... belay You are all in one shove a shell? So how much will one copy cost? Thousand 120-140 "always green" minimum !!! (and most likely more ...)
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 24 2016 21: 01
                0
                Well, they shove it in. For example, the German-Italian "Volcano". It will cost less than firing conventional ammunition. For the expense is much less.
      4. alexmach
        alexmach April 24 2016 16: 26
        +2
        But does it make sense to shoot at 70 km with conventional ammunition?
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 April 24 2016 19: 36
          +2
          Let the shell fly 70 km.
          And what will it be - we'll figure it out in the process! laughing
        2. derik1970
          derik1970 April 24 2016 20: 52
          0
          Missiles, but no shells, all the more so expensive. Yes, and the projectile will not fly to 70km, there is something the guys smoke ...
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 24 2016 21: 05
            +1
            A shell is always cheaper than a rocket. Fact. 75 km shells have been flying away since 2006.
      5. derik1970
        derik1970 April 24 2016 20: 50
        0
        Sorry, what are you smoking? From where 70 km of the range of the shot you all came from. Maybe right away 700 km, but what a little detail then ... Who is more? And 40 km with difficulty if possible, and then okay with gas-generating shells, although I doubt it as an artilleryman. Apparently you talked about the speed of the ACS ... Well, of course ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 24 2016 21: 09
          +3
          Quote: derik1970
          Sorry, what are you smoking?

          Maybe other arguments should be applied? Not "what smoke", but "I haven't heard"?

          April 11, 2006. SOUTH AFRICA. Tests 75 km V-LAP
        2. The stranger
          The stranger April 25 2016 03: 23
          -1
          Moreover, the Germans fired at WWII in Paris from 60 km. The shells flew along a ballistic curve, this is a suborbite. Little did not reach the American first kilometer.
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    3. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb April 24 2016 14: 10
      0
      "Mistress" Albright is ecstatic from the Bangladesh shells! laughing
    4. Arkhan
      Arkhan April 25 2016 20: 10
      0
      I don’t want to prove anything to you. Just leave it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQpIZ4SdSUY
      You decide what to do with it.
  3. ovod84
    ovod84 April 24 2016 11: 28
    +4
    The good news is I wonder how much one such projectile costs and whether it will be cheaper than an American paladin
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock April 24 2016 11: 31
      +14
      Quote: ovod84
      The good news is I wonder how much one such projectile costs and whether it will be cheaper than an American paladin

      Expensive, our KAB-500S adjustable bomb costs 3 million rubles, and there, in fact, it’s the noise-resistant GLONASS receiver and the tail unit with servos.
      Here, the same price is likely to be not much lower.
      1. dauria
        dauria April 24 2016 12: 04
        +8
        and tail with servos.


        It seems that on the shells the nose is deflected (only by angular minutes) and, as servos, piezo rods are miniature. Although, FIG knows how our "big-headed" contrived. Anyway, this is already pleasing. Something "mogem". You can't blind such things in a garage, which means there are entire industries and institutions.
        1. tol100v
          tol100v April 24 2016 12: 22
          +2
          Quote: dauria
          (just for angular minutes)

          With such a deviation, you can return to yourself! Apparently you mean deviations of the governing bodies in seconds and fractions of seconds!
          1. dauria
            dauria April 24 2016 14: 41
            +1
            Apparently you mean deviations of the governing bodies in seconds and fractions of seconds!


            I meant the unit of measurement of a minute angle smile(in our time it was like the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions request )
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 24 2016 13: 18
      0
      Quote: ovod84
      I wonder how much one such shell costs

      Cheaper than usual. At least the amount needed to complete a similar task.
    3. Tusv
      Tusv April 24 2016 16: 17
      0
      Quote: ovod84
      I wonder how much one such shell costs and whether it will be cheaper than the shell of an American paladin

      Add to the conventional Glonass projectile a receiver, steering wheels, air brakes and a control program (the most expensive), we get a simple and inexpensive expensive guided projectile
  4. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 24 2016 11: 32
    +7
    This is how the projectile appears, opening the "umbrella" of the antenna in flight and clarifying the route from the satellite by phone)))
    In general, it’s a good thing) Still, the cost of these shells would not be sky-high. And then I remember how in Yugoslavia in 1999. mattresses spent 32 907kg KAB on the destruction of one T-34-85, removed from the pedestal and made by DOT, it seems that the price of high-precision weapons is a very important factor.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 24 2016 11: 41
      +5
      Would Medvedev-Hollande's Mistrals cost us less? laughing Go, grandmothers learned not to scatter in the wind.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat April 24 2016 11: 43
        +4
        Greetings!))) I had in my way not only the issue of corruption, but also the issue of the cost of technology itself smile
        hi
        1. Amurets
          Amurets April 24 2016 12: 00
          +2
          Quote: Stroibat stock
          Greetings!))) I had in my way not only the issue of corruption, but also the issue of the cost of technology itself

          Expensive! Thanks to Kudrin that AMD production did not get into the Russian Federation. There is nowhere to put the chips? That low-power, which is in the Russian Federation, is loaded with orders, and we pay a lot of money to foreign firms for the "Military" and "Space" series. Https://habrahabr .ru / post / 156049 /
          This is a link to microchips. The article is quite old, but the requirements, except for the technical process, have not changed.
          1. Asadullah
            Asadullah April 24 2016 16: 14
            +1
            https://habrahabr.ru/post/156049/


            Article nonsense ossified trie. There is nothing worse than a militant amateur, for he has the ability to combine both moderate amateurs and cretins.

            One such pearl is worth: (when the development cost is not divided by 1 million microchips, but by 100) , damn it, even for a million microcircuits there is no point in developing, because with only one silicon wafer more than five hundred chips can be obtained. Non-working chips are rejected at each stage of the planar technology, where the cost of cermet, which the author uses as a nightingale, is a millionth of the cost. About purchases abroad, there’s even nothing to dwell on ... in short, this is not a source.
        2. ver_
          ver_ April 25 2016 05: 27
          0
          ... mine understands that this is just another step in the development of high-precision ammunition and all the systems involved in this topic including satellite navigation ..
      2. Winnie76
        Winnie76 April 24 2016 12: 20
        +5
        600 million euros for a warship 20 thousand tons in 2 years IMHO inexpensively and quickly. Our cheaper and faster would not do. Another thing is that everything turned so ...
        1. lelikas
          lelikas April 24 2016 16: 47
          +2
          Quote: Winnie76
          600 million euros for a warship 20 thousand tons in 2 years IMHO inexpensively and quickly. Our cheaper and faster would not do. Another thing is that everything turned so ...

          Yesterday I went to a site, like a new newspaper, everything was jubilant about the corresponding topic, about the mistals that they didn’t give us formidable weapons, and on our site they were jubilant that they hadn’t spent money on the trough - a paradox, for the first time, in my memory, liberoids rather estimated the situation.
          How to build a BDK with us - you don’t have to go far for an example, you can not even call it.
      3. The stranger
        The stranger April 25 2016 03: 39
        -2
        Stroibatovets listen.
        We had more losses from drunken crews at the VD exercises than the Serbs in that "war".
        At that time, educational losses of 3% were acceptable for us. Then they will not praise, but they will not hang. But you can't be a battalion commander.
  5. Izotovp
    Izotovp April 24 2016 11: 37
    +2
    Next in line are birds with glonass?
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 April 24 2016 11: 42
      +2
      And why not explain to GLONAS ATGMs?
      1. Izotovp
        Izotovp April 24 2016 11: 44
        0
        What about a sense of humor? wink
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 April 24 2016 12: 01
          0
          Thanks, laughed. laughing
          1. Izotovp
            Izotovp April 24 2016 12: 21
            0
            Good day ! hi
        2. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat April 24 2016 12: 01
          +4
          ATGM? I mean, a sense of humor smile
          So ours already have it, it can be seen from their "muzzles" and names laughing
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 24 2016 13: 23
        +1
        Quote: rotmistr60
        And why not explain to GLONAS ATGMs?

        ATGM installations - for more effective fire control. The Americans have been installing global positioning systems on their TOU for 10 years.

        For missiles of long-range complexes like Hermes - for increased accuracy of launching into the target area. The same for aviation anti-tank systems.
        1. Denimax
          Denimax April 24 2016 19: 00
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          ATGM installations - for more effective fire control. The Americans have been installing global positioning systems on their TOU for 10 years.

          Interesting, but for what? After all, shooting is conducted in the direct line of sight of the target.
          Quote: Spade
          For missiles of long-range complexes like Hermes - for increased accuracy of launching into the target area. The same for aviation anti-tank systems.

          Or for long-range type Spike.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 24 2016 19: 58
            -1
            Quote: Denimax
            Interesting, but for what? After all, shooting is conducted in the direct line of sight of the target.

            Geometry
            The anti-tank battery along the front up to two kilometers takes the deployment line. The commander is approximately in the middle.
            It is difficult to assign goals to settings. The operator sees the battlefield quite differently from the commander, often for him that to the left of the landmark for the commander actually appears in front of the landmark.
            And it is necessary to distribute. Otherwise, one target will be fired upon by two, and the other will not be "fondled"

            Because the coordinates of the NP, the coordinates of the settings, and the simplest trigonometry in automatic mode. The commander, having received the angle and range to the target, transfers its XYh coordinates to the subordinate. The equipment recounts information, providing directional, elevation and range. It remains only to direct.
            1. Denimax
              Denimax April 24 2016 20: 12
              +1
              What a linear tactic with angles it turns out. Type sit calculations on a long front. It seems to me all this has long been out of date. You can simply enter the time interval in the shooting, the shot changed position, then the next one. Tank avalanches are not relevant right now.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 24 2016 21: 13
                0
                Nothing is "out of date". The probable enemy did not abandon tactical nuclear weapons, attacks on the flank of both the defenders and the attackers

                Quote: Denimax
                Tank avalanches are not relevant right now.

                Yes, it seems like no one wants to refuse tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers ...
              2. The stranger
                The stranger April 25 2016 03: 57
                +1
                Why did the tanks find another way?
                The artillery did not hit, it happens. On "9 more shells, PF" - does not answer.
                I'm an infantry. My command is "defense" - one area. There are three tanks, I am one, with three grenades. Who has no options? :)
            2. vv3
              vv3 April 25 2016 11: 15
              0
              You, Lopatov, think in terms of the 1st World War. Or do you think that our army is at this level and is located. And sculpt nuclear weapons to this level. What is the front line, what is the frontier? Have you heard the supporting company and other items, including artillery? .. Modern weapons become such only if they are integrated into a single combat information and control system (BIUS). One of the tasks of such a system is to provide real-time target designation. Without such a system, the Coalition will either shoot directly or in vain gather dust somewhere and rarely be used at stationary facilities and will require the death of hundreds of spotters ... Those capabilities of such systems are determined by the capabilities of the information management system. In this regard, attempts to increase the range look no more than an unnecessary end in itself. And the modern BIOS is in the bud, to put it mildly ....
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 24 2016 13: 20
      -1
      Quote: Izotovp
      Next in line are birds with glonass

      It is high time. Launchers needed to be equipped the day before yesterday. Long-range ATGM yesterday.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 24 2016 11: 42
    +2
    Again a contradiction. Most enterprises are private, including those producing such ammunition. In extreme cases - state corporations. Interested in maximum profit. And the Moscow Region is interested in getting weapons for a minimum price. We have to negotiate! The source of funding is the budget.
  7. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 24 2016 11: 42
    +1
    Who owns GLONASS, owns the whole world ...
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 April 24 2016 12: 03
      +1
      The idea is correct, but do not forget that GPS exists.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt April 24 2016 13: 52
        0
        GPS exists. Till. Chinese turn comes up. And technology is created by people.
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 24 2016 11: 59
    +3
    Something our military designers strode by leaps and bounds, that not a day, then something new. And rightly so, debts to the Army must be repaid, for too long it has suffered shame and humiliation from our liberals and clowns from the government.
  9. My doctor
    My doctor April 24 2016 11: 59
    +1
    Quote: Ros 56
    Something our military designers strode by leaps and bounds, that not a day, then something new

    Advertising, I think we will hear about the new shell more than once, only in different interpretations. As in Galiwood, those films have not yet been shot, and ads are already being played. So here managers work, for whom the main thing is to stir up interest in one or another product, so that by the time it is ready a public assessment of the product has already been formulated, which its real characteristics will not be able to influence. Managers need to be attached somewhere.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 April 24 2016 12: 06
      +2
      Only a madman saves on his safety.
      This is not me, this is Stalin said. hi
    2. tol100v
      tol100v April 24 2016 12: 37
      +1
      Quote: MyVrach
      public assessment of the product has already been formulated

      And what does the public assessment have to do with it? This is not a cure or a new version of the phone. The decision is made by the military. Anyway. In general, it is worth thinking about satellite guidance to thieves in OboronProm! It seems that efficiency will increase significantly!
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 April 24 2016 15: 12
        0
        In general, it is worth thinking about satellite guidance to thieves in OboronProm! It seems that efficiency will increase significantly!

        Chet immediately M. Zhvanetsky recalled. Actually still.
        My armor

        I want to buy, like during the war, a tank at the expense of the artist, but use it myself for some time. It’s probably nice to suddenly appear in the housing office and ask to replace the floor in the kitchen without leaving the car. It's good to enter the bazaar and ask through the crack: "Skoko, skoko? One kilo or the whole bag?"
        It’s good to have a friend on a helicopter so that he flies a little ahead, and a couple of friends with machine guns so that they run a little behind.
        laughing
  10. yuriy55
    yuriy55 April 24 2016 12: 15
    +1
    "Coalition-SV" will receive satellite-guided munitions

    Good news fellow And the goals have already been selected:
    “Near 20 mercenaries with small arms were seen in a private house on the eastern edge of the village of Bolotennoye,”
    Marochko told reporters.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 April 24 2016 15: 15
      0
      And the goals have already been selected:
      Urgent to test a new projectile in the field.
      am
  11. siberalt
    siberalt April 24 2016 13: 57
    0
    An interesting question came up. If the new "Coalition" uses satellite guidance of shells, will it be a weapon for the Aerospace Forces? hi
    And the second thing. If so, is it possible to shoot a couple of such "divisionalists" in Syria.
  12. Lens
    Lens April 24 2016 17: 54
    +1
    Highly. Very interesting news! We must now carefully monitor the military acceptance. There, most likely the first video test report will be posted.
  13. bad
    bad April 25 2016 06: 23
    +1
    "Coalition-SV" will receive satellite-guided munitions
    this is certainly good..but the most cimus is to throw tactical nuclear munitions to the maximum range .. for which this artifact is actually needed .. laughing