"Coalition-SV" will receive satellite-guided munitions

The newest self-propelled howitzer "Coalition-SV" will receive high-precision projectiles with satellite guidance, reports RIA News a message from the head of the defense order for the defense ministry, Mikhail Osyko.

“Coalition-SV” is a project with the development of a new set of ammunition, including high-precision ammunition, which will significantly increase the range and accuracy of destruction, ”said Osyko on the radio of RSN radio.

To the question of the program leader, whether this missile would be satellite-guided, the colonel answered in the affirmative.

"When all the necessary tests have been completed and will be supplied to the troops, this will also be absolutely fair to be considered accurate. weapons", - he said.

Help Agency: “The 152 mm self-propelled howitzer of the 2C35 Coalition-SV brigade unit is designed to destroy tactical nuclear weapons, artillery and mortar batteries, tanks and other armored vehicles, anti-tank weapons, manpower, air defense and missile defense systems, command posts. "

Comments

[Lt. Air Force stock]

The range, as I understand it, will be 70 kilometers from this satellite-guided missile?
Still, the ATGM Hermes would have been brought to mind.

[Tusv]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

The range, as I understand it, will be 70 kilometers from this satellite-guided missile?

Range 70 is the shooting of ordinary ammunition. Effective control is possible to reduce speed. The so-called controlled fall. Somewhere in the region of 40-50 km

[cniza]

A formidable weapon, it’s not for nothing that they are so afraid of it, and now it’s also highly accurate.

[ver_]

..they (shells) were already high-precision "Krasnopolye" ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: Tusv

Range 70 is the shooting of ordinary ammunition.

Somewhere "in the wrong direction"? It makes no sense to shoot at such ranges with conventional ammunition

[Tusv]

Quote: Spade

Somewhere "in the wrong direction"? It makes no sense to shoot at such ranges with conventional ammunition

Well, since the creators of the Coalition have set their sights on such a range, it means that there is still sense

[Alex777]

Partners at 120 are already shooting. True to the fleet.

[Lopatov]

It means that they aimed to shoot precisely with the ammunition referred to in the message.

[vv3]

Lopatov, as I understand it, the commander and gunner, next to the commander, in the trench will determine the target with 70 km binoculars? Why such a firing range if there is no direct or centralized target designation from the UAV, and there is no ESU TK control system, integrate the UAV with a sufficient radius of action into it, the Coalition itself and then already talk about the required firing range. It’s not your drawbacks and tales to tell.

[silver_roman]

It’s like there is a BIUS there, though there is no UAV in the complex. But no one denies intelligence and x use. 70 km away. it makes sense to shoot if the target is stationary and large enough, i.e. not a tank. And if you shoot TNW (there seems to be such an opportunity), it doesn’t matter what’s there: + -100 meters - anyway.

In general, is the article talking about "Krasnopol" or something new?

[Asadullah]

Somewhere "in the wrong direction"?

What kind of shell? Krasnopol D? So just do not need to highlight, otherwise weave behind everyone. In the event of a global conflict, as I understand it, there will be no satellites. There will be no satellites, no shells.

[Lopatov]

A shell is needed, at least with an inertial control system. Adding correction according to global positioning is even better. To provide an opportunity to fasten a semi-active infrared seeker if it is possible to highlight the target is generally excellent.

[Rader]

Quote: Spade

A shell is needed, at least with an inertial control system. Adding correction according to global positioning is even better. To provide an opportunity to fasten a semi-active infrared seeker if it is possible to highlight the target is generally excellent.

Uh ... You are all in one shove a shell? So how much will one copy cost? Thousand 120-140 "always green" minimum !!! (and most likely more ...)

[Lopatov]

Well, they shove it in. For example, the German-Italian "Volcano". It will cost less than firing conventional ammunition. For the expense is much less.

[alexmach]

But does it make sense to shoot at 70 km with conventional ammunition?

[Alex777]

Let the shell fly 70 km.
And what will it be - we'll figure it out in the process!

[derik1970]

Missiles, but no shells, all the more so expensive. Yes, and the projectile will not fly to 70km, there is something the guys smoke ...

[Lopatov]

A shell is always cheaper than a rocket. Fact. 75 km shells have been flying away since 2006.

[derik1970]

Sorry, what are you smoking? From where 70 km of the range of the shot you all came from. Maybe right away 700 km, but what a little detail then ... Who is more? And 40 km with difficulty if possible, and then okay with gas-generating shells, although I doubt it as an artilleryman. Apparently you talked about the speed of the ACS ... Well, of course ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: derik1970

Sorry, what are you smoking?

Maybe other arguments should be applied? Not "what smoke", but "I haven't heard"?

April 11, 2006. SOUTH AFRICA. Tests 75 km V-LAP

[The stranger]

Moreover, the Germans fired at WWII in Paris from 60 km. The shells flew along a ballistic curve, this is a suborbite. Little did not reach the American first kilometer.

[JIaIIoTb]

"Mistress" Albright is ecstatic from the Bangladesh shells!

[Arkhan]

I don’t want to prove anything to you. Just leave it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQpIZ4SdSUY
You decide what to do with it.

[ovod84]

The good news is I wonder how much one such projectile costs and whether it will be cheaper than an American paladin

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: ovod84

The good news is I wonder how much one such projectile costs and whether it will be cheaper than an American paladin

Expensive, our KAB-500S adjustable bomb costs 3 million rubles, and there, in fact, it’s the noise-resistant GLONASS receiver and the tail unit with servos.
Here, the same price is likely to be not much lower.

[dauria]

and tail with servos.

It seems that on the shells the nose is deflected (only by angular minutes) and, as servos, piezo rods are miniature. Although, FIG knows how our "big-headed" contrived. Anyway, this is already pleasing. Something "mogem". You can't blind such things in a garage, which means there are entire industries and institutions.

[tol100v]

Quote: dauria

(just for angular minutes)

With such a deviation, you can return to yourself! Apparently you mean deviations of the governing bodies in seconds and fractions of seconds!

[dauria]

Apparently you mean deviations of the governing bodies in seconds and fractions of seconds!

I meant the unit of measurement of a minute angle (in our time it was like the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions )

[Lopatov]

Quote: ovod84

I wonder how much one such shell costs

Cheaper than usual. At least the amount needed to complete a similar task.

[Tusv]

Quote: ovod84

I wonder how much one such shell costs and whether it will be cheaper than the shell of an American paladin

Add to the conventional Glonass projectile a receiver, steering wheels, air brakes and a control program (the most expensive), we get a simple and inexpensive expensive guided projectile

[Reserve buildbat]

This is how the projectile appears, opening the "umbrella" of the antenna in flight and clarifying the route from the satellite by phone)))
In general, it’s a good thing) Still, the cost of these shells would not be sky-high. And then I remember how in Yugoslavia in 1999. mattresses spent 32 907kg KAB on the destruction of one T-34-85, removed from the pedestal and made by DOT, it seems that the price of high-precision weapons is a very important factor.

[siberalt]

Would Medvedev-Hollande's Mistrals cost us less? Go, grandmothers learned not to scatter in the wind.

[Reserve buildbat]

Greetings!))) I had in my way not only the issue of corruption, but also the issue of the cost of technology itself

[Amurets]

Quote: Stroibat stock

Greetings!))) I had in my way not only the issue of corruption, but also the issue of the cost of technology itself

Expensive! Thanks to Kudrin that AMD production did not get into the Russian Federation. There is nowhere to put the chips? That low-power, which is in the Russian Federation, is loaded with orders, and we pay a lot of money to foreign firms for the "Military" and "Space" series. Https://habrahabr .ru / post / 156049 /
This is a link to microchips. The article is quite old, but the requirements, except for the technical process, have not changed.

[Asadullah]

https://habrahabr.ru/post/156049/

Article nonsense ossified trie. There is nothing worse than a militant amateur, for he has the ability to combine both moderate amateurs and cretins.

One such pearl is worth: (when the development cost is not divided by 1 million microchips, but by 100) , damn it, even for a million microcircuits there is no point in developing, because with only one silicon wafer more than five hundred chips can be obtained. Non-working chips are rejected at each stage of the planar technology, where the cost of cermet, which the author uses as a nightingale, is a millionth of the cost. About purchases abroad, there’s even nothing to dwell on ... in short, this is not a source.

[ver_]

... mine understands that this is just another step in the development of high-precision ammunition and all the systems involved in this topic including satellite navigation ..

[Winnie76]

600 million euros for a warship 20 thousand tons in 2 years IMHO inexpensively and quickly. Our cheaper and faster would not do. Another thing is that everything turned so ...

[lelikas]

Quote: Winnie76

600 million euros for a warship 20 thousand tons in 2 years IMHO inexpensively and quickly. Our cheaper and faster would not do. Another thing is that everything turned so ...

Yesterday I went to a site, like a new newspaper, everything was jubilant about the corresponding topic, about the mistals that they didn’t give us formidable weapons, and on our site they were jubilant that they hadn’t spent money on the trough - a paradox, for the first time, in my memory, liberoids rather estimated the situation.
How to build a BDK with us - you don’t have to go far for an example, you can not even call it.

[The stranger]

Stroibatovets listen.
We had more losses from drunken crews at the VD exercises than the Serbs in that "war".
At that time, educational losses of 3% were acceptable for us. Then they will not praise, but they will not hang. But you can't be a battalion commander.

[Izotovp]

Next in line are birds with glonass?

[rotmistr60]

And why not explain to GLONAS ATGMs?

[Izotovp]

What about a sense of humor?

[rotmistr60]

Thanks, laughed.

[Izotovp]

Good day !

[Reserve buildbat]

ATGM? I mean, a sense of humor
So ours already have it, it can be seen from their "muzzles" and names

[Lopatov]

Quote: rotmistr60

And why not explain to GLONAS ATGMs?

ATGM installations - for more effective fire control. The Americans have been installing global positioning systems on their TOU for 10 years.

For missiles of long-range complexes like Hermes - for increased accuracy of launching into the target area. The same for aviation anti-tank systems.

[Denimax]

Quote: Spade

ATGM installations - for more effective fire control. The Americans have been installing global positioning systems on their TOU for 10 years.

Interesting, but for what? After all, shooting is conducted in the direct line of sight of the target.

Quote: Spade

For missiles of long-range complexes like Hermes - for increased accuracy of launching into the target area. The same for aviation anti-tank systems.

Or for long-range type Spike.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Denimax

Interesting, but for what? After all, shooting is conducted in the direct line of sight of the target.

Geometry
The anti-tank battery along the front up to two kilometers takes the deployment line. The commander is approximately in the middle.
It is difficult to assign goals to settings. The operator sees the battlefield quite differently from the commander, often for him that to the left of the landmark for the commander actually appears in front of the landmark.
And it is necessary to distribute. Otherwise, one target will be fired upon by two, and the other will not be "fondled"

Because the coordinates of the NP, the coordinates of the settings, and the simplest trigonometry in automatic mode. The commander, having received the angle and range to the target, transfers its XYh coordinates to the subordinate. The equipment recounts information, providing directional, elevation and range. It remains only to direct.

[Denimax]

What a linear tactic with angles it turns out. Type sit calculations on a long front. It seems to me all this has long been out of date. You can simply enter the time interval in the shooting, the shot changed position, then the next one. Tank avalanches are not relevant right now.

[Lopatov]

Nothing is "out of date". The probable enemy did not abandon tactical nuclear weapons, attacks on the flank of both the defenders and the attackers

Quote: Denimax

Tank avalanches are not relevant right now.

Yes, it seems like no one wants to refuse tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers ...

[The stranger]

Why did the tanks find another way?
The artillery did not hit, it happens. On "9 more shells, PF" - does not answer.
I'm an infantry. My command is "defense" - one area. There are three tanks, I am one, with three grenades. Who has no options? :)

[vv3]

You, Lopatov, think in terms of the 1st World War. Or do you think that our army is at this level and is located. And sculpt nuclear weapons to this level. What is the front line, what is the frontier? Have you heard the supporting company and other items, including artillery? .. Modern weapons become such only if they are integrated into a single combat information and control system (BIUS). One of the tasks of such a system is to provide real-time target designation. Without such a system, the Coalition will either shoot directly or in vain gather dust somewhere and rarely be used at stationary facilities and will require the death of hundreds of spotters ... Those capabilities of such systems are determined by the capabilities of the information management system. In this regard, attempts to increase the range look no more than an unnecessary end in itself. And the modern BIOS is in the bud, to put it mildly ....

[Lopatov]

Quote: Izotovp

Next in line are birds with glonass

It is high time. Launchers needed to be equipped the day before yesterday. Long-range ATGM yesterday.

[Mountain shooter]

Again a contradiction. Most enterprises are private, including those producing such ammunition. In extreme cases - state corporations. Interested in maximum profit. And the Moscow Region is interested in getting weapons for a minimum price. We have to negotiate! The source of funding is the budget.

[Pvi1206]

Who owns GLONASS, owns the whole world ...

[rotmistr60]

The idea is correct, but do not forget that GPS exists.

[siberalt]

GPS exists. Till. Chinese turn comes up. And technology is created by people.

[Ros 56]

Something our military designers strode by leaps and bounds, that not a day, then something new. And rightly so, debts to the Army must be repaid, for too long it has suffered shame and humiliation from our liberals and clowns from the government.

[My doctor]

Quote: Ros 56

Something our military designers strode by leaps and bounds, that not a day, then something new

Advertising, I think we will hear about the new shell more than once, only in different interpretations. As in Galiwood, those films have not yet been shot, and ads are already being played. So here managers work, for whom the main thing is to stir up interest in one or another product, so that by the time it is ready a public assessment of the product has already been formulated, which its real characteristics will not be able to influence. Managers need to be attached somewhere.

[Ros 56]

Only a madman saves on his safety.
This is not me, this is Stalin said.

[tol100v]

Quote: MyVrach

public assessment of the product has already been formulated

And what does the public assessment have to do with it? This is not a cure or a new version of the phone. The decision is made by the military. Anyway. In general, it is worth thinking about satellite guidance to thieves in OboronProm! It seems that efficiency will increase significantly!

[Kos_kalinki9]

In general, it is worth thinking about satellite guidance to thieves in OboronProm! It seems that efficiency will increase significantly!

Chet immediately M. Zhvanetsky recalled. Actually still.

My armor

I want to buy, as during the war, a tank at the expense of the artist, but to use myself for a while. It's nice, probably, to suddenly appear in the housing office and ask to replace the floor in the kitchen, without leaving the car. It is good to enter the market and ask through the slot: "Skoko, skoko? One kilo or the whole bag?"
It’s good to have a friend on a helicopter so that he flies a little ahead, and a couple of friends with machine guns so that they run a little behind.

[yuriy55]

"Coalition-SV" will receive satellite-guided munitions

Good news And the goals have already been selected:

“Near 20 mercenaries with small arms were seen in a private house on the eastern edge of the village of Bolotennoye,”
Marochko told reporters.

[Kos_kalinki9]

And the goals have already been selected:

Urgent to test a new projectile in the field.

[siberalt]

An interesting question came up. If the new "Coalition" uses satellite guidance of shells, will it be a weapon for the Aerospace Forces?
And the second thing. If so, is it possible to shoot a couple of such "divisionalists" in Syria.

[Lens]

Highly. Very interesting news! We must now carefully monitor the military acceptance. There, most likely the first video test report will be posted.

[bad]

"Coalition-SV" will receive satellite-guided munitions

this is certainly good..but the most cimus is to throw tactical nuclear munitions to the maximum range .. for which this artifact is actually needed ..