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NSDC: tactical missile tested in Ukraine

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APU conducted another test tactical missiles, transmits RIA News message of the press service of the Security Council of Ukraine.




“The First Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Oleg Gladkovsky, took part in the regular tests of a tactical missile,” the report said.

“The Ukrainian defense industry continues to work on the creation of a tactical rocket commissioned by the Ministry of Defense. Today, one of the main tasks is to improve the tactical and technical characteristics of this product, as well as to ensure a fully closed loop of its production in Ukraine ",
quotes Gladkovsky press service.

“The next tests confirm the possibility of the Ukrainian defense industry to develop and improve the available technologies in close cooperation with scientific institutions,” he said.

The first test of an operational tactical missile in Kiev was reported by 22 in March. Russian experts, after analyzing the published video of the test launch, concluded that "the first test of the 300-mm adjustable Volga (Alder) rocket was made for use from the Smerch multiple rocket launcher system." They also reported that "the development of the rocket is conducted by the State Enterprise" Design Bureau "Yuzhnoye" named after Yangel "(Dnepropetrovsk)".
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 23 2016 11: 38
    +3
    tests confirm the ability of the Ukrainian defense industry to develop and improve existing technologies

    Something is hard to believe in these "opportunities". Again, only in words. It's getting boring already.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt April 23 2016 11: 42
      +7
      It seems that little Pete was not allowed to play with matches. laughing And then he started drinking. With a "poltarashka"! belay
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 April 23 2016 11: 46
        +9
        Let invent, on what Poroshenko will let fly astride. smile
        1. cniza
          cniza April 23 2016 12: 43
          +4
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Let invent, on what Poroshenko will let fly astride. smile


          Every day he flies away riding a bottle, while he finds the way home, while he finds it.
          1. Darkmor
            Darkmor April 23 2016 20: 47
            +2
            And what, translated from Ukrainian, means "Tactical missile"? How is it different from non-tactical? What does she need to screw up to strategic?
            What is she doing that calling her so?
            1. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch April 24 2016 02: 04
              +3
              Quote: Darkmor
              And what, translated from Ukrainian, means "Tactical missile"? How is it different from non-tactical? What does she need to screw up to strategic?
              What is she doing that calling her so?


              The right questions. Regular ammunition from "Smerch" can be called a tactical missile, as you can call it. It's all about the coloring of that ammunition - if it's bluish, then it's tactical. In general, the "multiple launch rocket system ammunition", just something. The circle of rocket modelers is working, it is necessary to take away the matches from p r and d u r to about in, until they really fucking blow up everything there. Well, who knew that such people would grow up THERE, in that fertile climate, so they gave them deposits of minerals for them and a long hemorrhoid for themselves. I’ll tell you more, comrades - this audience is already at HOME, and they are beginning to maidanut our narrow-minded sympathizers with their pimples on their ass! THINK, EVERYONE ACCEPTING A CHEAP IS COLD FOR WORK, or at least to hammer a nail in a "REFUGEE" - WHOM DO YOU SIN? I watch these EVERY day in the "wild nature", two-faced Anus. Vileness is in the blood, very rarely People come across.
              1. inferno_nv
                inferno_nv April 24 2016 10: 58
                +2
                Dear, you do not need all to fit one comb !!! In Russia, there are no less two-faced ones. hi You have to be smarter and not be like maidanut, and so you are no different from them!
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      2. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik April 23 2016 11: 53
        +17
        In the summer camp of the military school, we launched rockets from lead tubes from under toothpaste with chopped celluloid. From the slate it flew quite far and we felt like great rocket launchers. I think the same euphoria is experienced by kakly launching their second-hand goods. negative
        1. Coconut Tima
          Coconut Tima April 23 2016 14: 31
          +14
          NSDC: tactical missile tested in Ukraine
        2. Naum
          Naum April 23 2016 20: 57
          +5
          Quote: Major Yurik
          from lead toothpaste tubes

          Toothpaste in a lead (!) Tube? Harshly! Wasn’t it in Chelyabinsk? Or maybe there still were aluminum tubes? I actually used foil. Later used spray cans from siphons.)))
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch April 24 2016 02: 23
            +2
            Quote: Naum
            Toothpaste in a lead (!) Tube? Harshly! Wasn’t it in Chelyabinsk? Or maybe there still were aluminum tubes? I actually used foil. Later used spray cans from siphons.)))


            And we didn't get too worn out - in childhood, instead of hydrogen-oxygen, we used carbide-snow, "satellite" - a tank from a discarded washing machine, only plugged the holes, "start key" - a burning stick from the fire. It hit the floor up to the 5th, just like on TV - fire and smoke, and the children's police department realized that the missilemen had started up. Since then, it's clear that it's interesting.
    2. Finches
      Finches April 23 2016 11: 46
      +3
      Found somewhere not yet sold and rusty "Tochka-U" and repainted in a zhevto-blocky color, passed off as a triumph of Ukrainian military thought! laughing
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak April 23 2016 12: 38
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Found somewhere not yet sold and rusty "Tochka-U" and repainted in a blocky color, they gave it out for the triumph of Ukrainian military thought

        http://topwar.ru/51744-ukrainskoe-raketostroenie-ot-chelomeya-do-kolomoyskogo.ht
        ml
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      3. Botanologist
        Botanologist April 23 2016 12: 44
        +25
        Quote: Finches
        "Tochka-U" and repainted in zhevto-blocky color were given for the triumph of Ukrainian military thought!


        This is not a point, start with inclined guides. If MLRS, then in principle believable. Moreover, Motor Sich makes engines for cruise missiles and they can pile something close.
        Here the question is different - how to launch not cheap CDs without target designation, which Nenko does not have and there is nowhere to come from.
        The second question is where to get the "brains" for the CD? It is possible, of course, to cooperate with France or Israel, but such a project will not get Ukraine out of money, and in terms of meaning it is not needed. Well, they will make CD, but how to apply them and the meaning of their use in Donetsk, which is shot from any angle by cannon artillery? After all, there are no rear complexes, all equipment and personnel are on the front line.
        So we see only PR support for the next dough.
        1. Rostov Papa
          Rostov Papa April 23 2016 15: 08
          +8
          Here the question is different - how to launch not cheap CDs without target designation, which Nenko does not have and there is nowhere to come from.
          According to the classification, it belongs to the class of missiles - "To whom will God send". fellow
        2. opus
          opus April 23 2016 19: 45
          +4
          Quote: Botanologist
          Moreover, Motor Sich makes engines for cruise missiles and they can pile something close.

          In a 300mm pipe, the MC400 will not climb (Diameter along the engine nacelle, mm 315, + pylon)



          The 300-mm guided missile "Vilkha" ("Alder") is a standard "Smercha" missile with a new control compartment.


          Quote: Botanologist
          not cheap CDs without target designation, which Nenko does not have and there is nowhere to come from.


          This is not a CD. KR they have a "kite"

          It is for stationary objects. A control center is not needed, the geographical coordinate of the target is entered into the ANN.
          Quote: Botanologist
          The second question is where to get the "brains" for the CD?

          1. Inertial guidance with GPS correction, created by the Kiev design bureau Luch.
          1. opus
            opus April 23 2016 19: 49
            +4
            The state enterprise “State Kyiv Design Bureau“ Luch ”was founded in 1965 as the main developer in the USSR of automated systems for monitoring and diagnostics of special aviation equipment.


            Control systems and servo electric steering gears
            Systems for automated control and diagnostics of guided precision weapons
            Complex "GURT-M"
            Complex "INGUL-A"
            AKIPS monitoring station group
            Anti-tank systems and simulators
            SARMAT complex
            SKIF portable anti-tank missile system
            Mobile BARRIER anti-tank missile system
            Helicopter anti-tank missile system BARRIER-V
            Light anti-tank missile system "KORSAR"
            Portable rocket launcher
            A complex of guided mortar weapons
            Set exercise control KTK1
            SKIF-UTS1.10 simulator
            Anti-tank guided missiles and guidance systems
            FALARICK 90 anti-tank guided missile shot
            Shot with anti-tank guided missile STUGNA
            BMP-3 anti-tank guided missile shot
            FALARICK 105 anti-tank guided missile shot
            Shot with anti-tank guided missile caliber-115mm
            KONUS anti-tank guided missile shot
            Combat anti-tank guided missile shot
            Ground control equipment AK-1
            Optoelectronic system for measuring the bending of the trunk SUIT-1
            Aircraft Armament
            Adjustable Aerial Bomb
            Air-to-air guided missile of close air combat
            Uncontrolled aircraft missile AR-8
            Adjustable aircraft missile AR-8L
            Helicopter anti-tank missile system "ALTA"
            Unmanned aerial vehicle container launch SOKOL-2
            Anti-aircraft guided missile
            Marine missile systems



            2.You will be surprised, but until recently, the SOYUZ-U and others (but mostly Soyuz) were made in Ukraine: onboard computers, peripheral sensors, steering machines, gyro platform, etc.
      4. APASUS
        APASUS April 23 2016 17: 50
        +1
        [quote = Zyablitsev] Found somewhere not yet sold and rusty "Tochka-U" and repainted in a blocky color, they gave it away for the triumph of Ukrainian military thought! laughing[/ Quote]
        Almost guessed it from the backlog of the rocket was in the warehouse.
        Here it is a source of inspiration for the Ukrainian authorities, a source of the appearance of myriad military units .......
        [quote] Some time ago, satellite images appeared on the Internet of the deserted Rassokhinsky “cemetery” of a radioactive technician [quote].
      5. opus
        opus April 23 2016 19: 51
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Found somewhere not yet sold and rusty "Tochka-U" and repainted in zhevto-blocky

        This is the MLRS "Smerch".



        What is "point-at" in LJ?
    3. Altona
      Altona April 23 2016 11: 53
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Something is hard to believe in these "opportunities". Again, only in words. It's getting boring already.

      ----------------------
      All these attempts are aimed at making weapons from any means at hand.
    4. svp67
      svp67 April 23 2016 12: 02
      +8
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Something is hard to believe in these "opportunities". Again, only in words

      Two such missiles have long been developed at PivdenMash, this is the KR-Korshun-2
      and the ballistic Thunder.
      It is difficult to determine from the photo, but I am more inclined to the "Kite"
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 23 2016 12: 08
        +10
        Drawing and making a layout is not a problem. The problem is to create a working product that can be adopted and delivered to the troops in the required quantities.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 23 2016 12: 14
          +8
          Quote: Spade
          Drawing and making a layout is not a problem. The problem is to create a working product that can be adopted and delivered to the troops in the required quantities.

          I agree. Moreover, the trials they have been going on for about a decade. But also to discount that they have such an opportunity, since there were so many factories of the Soviet military-industrial complex on their territory, the same is NOT worth it.
        2. quote
          quote April 23 2016 12: 20
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Drawing and making a layout is not a problem. The problem is to create a working product that can be adopted and delivered to the troops in the required quantities.

          Today, one of the main tasks is to improve the performance characteristics of this product. (From the article)
          Either the layout, or the drawing. Work !!!!
      2. Master HD
        Master HD April 23 2016 12: 31
        +2
        Indeed, you can draw anything. It is no accident that this project is called long-suffering at ukroin and ukroforumy.
        Even to improve the performance characteristics, and even more so mass production, money, technologies, and specialists are needed.
        Today, the junta on ukroin has none of this.
        Sayings of crazy Turchinov are nothing more than cheap show-offs and waving dirty ragged cowards.
      3. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher April 23 2016 13: 02
        +4
        Here is the salt ...
        "and also to ensure a completely closed cycle of its production in Ukraine"
        They were still starting to mess with her before the Maidan (I don’t remember when, but for a long time), now they have gathered. Perhaps partly from Belorussian, partly from Chinese components. Dvigun your most likely. Here are two pieces, collected in two months. Now, apparently, they will be looking for buyers, if someone gives an advance payment, maybe there will be a series, no, then no.
        As for the localization of production, then of course doubts arise.
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch April 24 2016 03: 27
          0
          Quote: Observer 33
          Now, apparently, they will be looking for buyers, if someone gives an advance payment, maybe there will be a series, no, then no.


          Maybe there are buyers in Croatia? Specific market - rotten tomatoes, coupled with a rotten little soul, are somehow not in demand, they won’t even give money for food, not even what to buy.
      4. just exp
        just exp April 23 2016 14: 12
        +2
        if you are using the photo in the article, then the trajectory here is clearly not ballistic, because the Thunder disappears.
        Yes, and IMHO everything disappears here, because here they write about the full production cycle in Ukraine. I don’t think that in Ukraine all the components for normal CR or BR are now being produced.
      5. opus
        opus April 23 2016 20: 18
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        It is difficult to determine from the photo, but I am more inclined to the "Kite"

        Everything is visible in the video


        Standard ammunition MLRS "Smerch" with "ukromozgami": inertial guidance with GPS correction, created by the Kiev design bureau "Luch".








        1. icy
          icy April 23 2016 23: 15
          0
          Yeah, only the installation was done at the Lenin plant in Perm.
          1. opus
            opus April 23 2016 23: 28
            +1
            Quote: icas
            Yeah, only the installation was done at the Lenin plant in Perm

            I don’t mind ...
            Quote: icas
            Standard ammunition MLRS "Smerch" with "ukromozgami": inertial guidance with GPS correction, created by the Kiev design bureau "Luch".

            Tse "peremoga"


      6. icy
        icy April 23 2016 23: 10
        +1
        Judging by the pictures, Ukrainians do not even know how to wind "lentils" - they are 30 years behind the Russian rocketry. Yes, and the bell is metal, non-rotatable, in short - g-o, not rockets.
    5. Sashka
      Sashka April 24 2016 01: 06
      +1
      If this is true, then it was just a monkey, now she has a grenade ...
    6. Homo
      Homo April 24 2016 01: 28
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Something is hard to believe in these "opportunities". Again, only in words. It's getting boring already.

      Here, in! You never know what they launched on the video, maybe a full-time Soviet-made rocket, but you can say anything.
    7. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 24 2016 10: 15
      +1
      NSDC: tactical missile tested in Ukraine

      Is this this one?
    8. SSeT
      SSeT April 24 2016 12: 28
      0
      The Smerch missile, which was out of date for storage, was launched, business. But pAAAAAfos! wassat
    9. Arkhan
      Arkhan April 25 2016 20: 11
      0
      I don’t want to prove anything to you. Just leave it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQpIZ4SdSUY
      You decide what to do with it.
  2. Tusv
    Tusv April 23 2016 11: 39
    +1
    Point repaired and launched?
    1. RUSS
      RUSS April 23 2016 11: 48
      +6
      Quote: Tusv
      Point repaired and launched?

      It is unlikely because, as it seems, they launched the "Smerch" from the pipe, and the rocket from the "Tochka" will not fit there laughing
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    3. quote
      quote April 23 2016 12: 22
      0
      Quote: Tusv
      The point was repaired and launched?
      .
      Nope! "Comma".
      1. Tusv
        Tusv April 23 2016 13: 04
        +2
        Quote: devis
        Nope! "Comma".

        The development of szepoya needs a lot of money and import substitution. That is, replace our parts. The Americans can’t, and the horses easily Dnieper and Zenith in a landfill
  3. Lopatov
    Lopatov April 23 2016 11: 39
    +5
    So they would have reported: their ran out, but Russia is not selling new ones. We are trying to copy paste.
    And then "develop", "improve", "development" ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 23 2016 11: 45
      +2
      hi
      Quote: Spade
      So they would have reported: their ran out, but Russia is not selling new ones. We are trying to copy paste.
      And then "develop", "improve", "development" ...

      It may be so, but they have the ability to produce a small series of such missiles, and the range of 300 km is a lot, especially Crimea and air bases on it can be hit, if something happens. And about Donbass and have to be silent
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 23 2016 11: 56
        +3
        Opportunity? Perhaps she will ever appear with them.
        The thing is that in Ukraine, during the collapse of the USSR, there were no design bureaus developing solid fuel rockets, nor enterprises producing them. No technology. All from scratch.

        Design Bureau "Yuzhnoye" specialized in "liquid"
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 23 2016 12: 25
          +5
          Quote: Spade
          The thing is that in Ukraine, during the collapse of the USSR, there were no design bureaus developing solid fuel rockets, nor enterprises producing them. No technology. All from scratch.

          Alas, they had everything. A lot was built there during the Soviet era. For example, the Pavlograd Chemical Plant was producing fuel for solid-propellant rockets.
          1. icy
            icy April 23 2016 23: 20
            0
            He produced for fireworks, and not for rockets!
        2. icy
          icy April 23 2016 23: 18
          0
          Ukr never had developers of turbojet engines, Utkins on Yuzhmash always appropriated other people's achievements, giving out as their own, and received medals from Brezhnev.
      2. Muvka
        Muvka April 23 2016 12: 02
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        hi
        Quote: Spade
        So they would have reported: their ran out, but Russia is not selling new ones. We are trying to copy paste.
        And then "develop", "improve", "development" ...

        It may be so, but they have the ability to produce a small series of such missiles, and the range of 300 km is a lot, especially Crimea and air bases on it can be hit, if something happens. And about Donbass and have to be silent

        And how long has a tornado began to launch rockets 300 km? Isn't it 100?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 23 2016 12: 05
          +2
          Why not? The Chinese kind of tried. True, there problems with dispersal appear sickly. As a result, the topic did not go. The Chinese from the correction on the active part of the trajectory switched to controlled RS.
        2. svp67
          svp67 April 23 2016 12: 09
          +1
          Quote: Muvka
          And how long has a tornado began to launch rockets 300 km? Isn't it 100?

          And who said it was "Tornado"? I am more inclined that this is "Pivdenna" development of OTKR "Korshun-2"
          1. Muvka
            Muvka April 23 2016 12: 16
            +2
            Actually, at the end of the news it is written: The first test of the "operational-tactical missile" in Kiev was reported on March 22. Russian specialists, having analyzed the published video of the test launch, came to the conclusion that “the first test of the 300-mm guided missile Vilkha (Alder) was carried out for use from the Smerch multiple launch rocket system”. They also reported that "the development of the rocket is being carried out by the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau named after Yangel (Dnepropetrovsk)."
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt April 23 2016 15: 14
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              Design Bureau "Yuzhnoye" specialized in "liquid"
              After all, they have developed "Well done". Whether the competence remains at the moment, it used to be.
              1. Bramb
                Bramb April 23 2016 15: 34
                +5
                They also have technical documentation on Voivode. The Americans were sold for three pennies.
                Because now we have everything new. Almost.)
                Fortunately, all this cannot be done at one enterprise, and far from everything was there. And Ukrainians themselves can not recreate Neither Well done nor Governor.
                But remake from Tornado into something flying - yes, they can. Another thing is that our specialists from Ukraine give a salary of a couple of pieces and they leave the 404th with a quiet glanders.))
  4. atamankko
    atamankko April 23 2016 11: 41
    0
    You have achieved the seventh degree of perfection, great warriors.
  5. 1976AG
    1976AG April 23 2016 11: 41
    +8
    A missile for MLRS and a tactical missile are two different things. It seems that Ukrainians are again engaged in self-praise, either they will call the fence a wall, or they will call it a missile ...
    1. Muvka
      Muvka April 23 2016 11: 42
      +1
      Quote: 1976AG
      A missile for MLRS and a tactical missile are two different things. It seems that Ukrainians are again engaged in self-praise, either they will call the fence a wall, or they will call it a missile ...

      Here, I also wanted to write that it’s kind of silly to call a missile for an MLRS - tactical.
  6. ,
    , April 23 2016 11: 42
    +1
    Well, what’s not named after Bandera factory? Or forgot to rename, Ivan’s relatives do not remember?
  7. Siga77
    Siga77 April 23 2016 11: 45
    +1
    This missile is definitely the "best" missile in gamerope, just like the URKA army!
  8. _NortoN_
    _NortoN_ April 23 2016 11: 45
    +2
    somehow there is no trust in news from Ukraine
  9. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ April 23 2016 11: 46
    +4
    Oh, this Ukraine! I remember the aphorism of Faina Ranevskaya: "What a world! How many idiots are around, how fun they are!"
  10. Primipilus
    Primipilus April 23 2016 11: 47
    +4
    TTX no, nothing to discuss.
  11. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 23 2016 11: 49
    +2
    The main thing is to blow louder, let everyone think that the engine is moving. Oh, Ukraine-Ukraine, what the bastards did to you? It would be with Russia to such a shame would not have come.
  12. PBF
    PBF April 23 2016 11: 50
    +3
    Words, again words ... wink If this were true, a video with a successful launch would be in all corners of the Internet.
  13. vic58
    vic58 April 23 2016 11: 50
    +1
    Nu-nu, warhead - pickup from Ukraine !!!! Whenever you think that shiza has reached the limit - they prove that "you are down" and "we can do everything"! request
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 23 2016 11: 51
    +1
    They have used up all the rockets for the "Tornado" and they are no longer being sold? And this is called a new development? Oh well. How they sculpted large-caliber snipers from old DShKs, and passed them off as oversight. Or "Kalash", rechargeable manually, called, in my opinion, "Hopak". This one is from the same opera.
  15. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 23 2016 11: 53
    +1
    To compete with Russia in this component is futile ...
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 23 2016 11: 53
    +2
    Tremble Russians. But it’s best that banderlogs do nothing at all in any case, otherwise they’ll do such a thing, we’ll not dissipate the whole world for a hundred years.
  17. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 April 23 2016 11: 53
    +4
    Yes, leave already at rest (Sorry for the caps) Ukraine! It’s a pity sincerely few who still have common sense. All the others zigit and rage. M.O.Skali damned. Go all the ho.h.h.L. in the ass! Something we have in Surgut not to see your gallant ones, sit in cafes and stupidly scold Russia and Putin. I heard it myself. You buy bronics in anti-terrorist operation and at the same time your boss in Russia ass lick hypocrites sucks! Why don’t you go to Nenko, since you are spread rot? I don’t understand one thing, how could the whole country crap like that ?! We won’t talk to our relatives, so we are attacking Ukraine, but go sideways, and we have enough of our grunts! Shche did not die? I have no words! Idiocy!
    1. Muvka
      Muvka April 23 2016 12: 07
      +2
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      Yes, leave already at rest (Sorry for the caps) Ukraine! It’s a pity sincerely few who still have common sense. All the others zigit and rage. M.O.Skali damned. Go all the ho.h.h.L. in the ass! Something we have in Surgut not to see your gallant ones, sit in cafes and stupidly scold Russia and Putin. I heard it myself. You buy bronics in anti-terrorist operation and at the same time your boss in Russia ass lick hypocrites sucks! Why don’t you go to Nenko, since you are spread rot? I don’t understand one thing, how could the whole country crap like that ?! We won’t talk to our relatives, so we are attacking Ukraine, but go sideways, and we have enough of our grunts! Shche did not die? I have no words! Idiocy!

      It is unlikely that Ukrainians read this site and specifically comments ...
      1. Nikoha.2010
        Nikoha.2010 April 23 2016 12: 20
        +2
        Quote: Muvka
        It is unlikely that Ukrainians read this site and specifically comments ...

        Yes, it’s not Ukrainians, they don’t care, I know from my relatives from Odessa. They burned them at the Profsoyuznaya, I called my aunt, she told me: "That tse not unas ..." No words! I just said what I think. The addressee is not important to me. Thank you for your attention. I do not troll, it just hurts and I write!
    2. Belarus
      Belarus April 23 2016 12: 09
      0
      Do not be surprised already and understand: this whole audience is from the same madhouse and ward. Accordingly, they want to eat fish and not wet their feet. It is not for nothing that they say: when a Ukrainian was born, the Jew burst into tears.
    3. Just me
      Just me April 23 2016 14: 01
      -2
      You are wrong. A lot of people (residents of Ukraine) do not agree with what is being done in Ukraine. When you put all the inhabitants of Ukraine on a par with those who ride on the Maidan, you are no different from those who are jumping
      1. Dax
        Dax April 23 2016 19: 47
        +1
        If you look a little wider. People (Russian, Orthodox) first accepted that they are some kind of nation, after a while a special nation, then a great one ... And not a psychiatrist will say: personality degradation. And for the simple reason here, the betrayal of the Motherland, the schism, the oblivion of the memory of the ancestors ... Result: they went to kill the neighbors, so far the ratings show that more than half continue to vote for one Ukrainian ..., then for another Ukrainian .... That there are people who no longer recognize themselves as people: either the great Ukrainians, or tseyuropyitsy, or even worse.
    4. bannik
      bannik April 23 2016 14: 23
      +2
      Powerfully pushed Nikoha! I’ll go and take a glass, but something, not everything I understood from him!
  18. evil partisan
    evil partisan April 23 2016 11: 54
    +2
    Even somehow low this "tactical" missile went what ... By the rain, or what? what
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 April 23 2016 12: 04
      +2
      Quote: wicked partisan
      Even somehow low this "tactical" missile went what ... By the rain, or what? what

      Not my brother, this is a tactic! lolSomething I'm angry today, I'll go drink a beer! drinks For the partisans!
    2. bannik
      bannik April 23 2016 14: 30
      +1
      So it was planned: from 1 km to 300. We started from one, so - everything is fair!
  19. Just me
    Just me April 23 2016 12: 06
    +4
    Looked: Military reception: About Tornado and Tornado Well, it’s like that Look at least one installation can do it It's not funny I really doubt the possibilities of a funeral home but I don’t need to relax I’ll throw in there is something to think about
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 April 23 2016 12: 13
      +1
      Quote: Simple
      Looked: Military acceptance:

      By the way, a good transfer! And for the rest, don’t bother! No one will go to bayonets, there will be all piu piu. Joke! And do not catch up! If necessary, we’ll fight everyone, we don’t get used to it. Politics bitch, loneliness bastard. Eh, I’ll pump up, otherwise I’m completely upset! crying drinks hi
      1. Just me
        Just me April 23 2016 12: 19
        +1
        It will be difficult for the Donbass to answer this garbage (if massively done) without support (well, you understand whose)
        1. Nikoha.2010
          Nikoha.2010 April 23 2016 12: 44
          +2
          Quote: Simple
          It will be difficult for the Donbass to answer this garbage (if massively done) without support (well, you understand whose)

          Yes, it’s already difficult to answer! But if this garbage arrives, then there will be an ass for everyone! Ukraine has become so dumb that they have nothing to lose! The most interesting thing at our factory is that they say in whispers in a whisper, maybe war? Yes, damn it, KGB, shoot these maidanutyh already, and we ourselves will reconcile later! repeat drinks
          1. Just me
            Just me April 23 2016 13: 51
            -1
            It’s just that people understand it all. But there is a POLICY. Nobody knows what they’re waiting for.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina April 23 2016 13: 54
            +2
            Quote: Simple
            It will be difficult for the Donbass to answer this garbage (if massively done) without support (well, you understand whose)

            I wanted to insert two videos, but found only one UA. The second, Russian, with shots of the launch and where the rocket hit the buried bunker, look for yourself.
            UA. Saw a hit place? Yes!
            RF Is the hit point removed? Yes!
            1. Just me
              Just me April 23 2016 14: 34
              0
              And you can tell in detail what you wanted to say with your comment and why I should look for something somewhere in the video
              1. sabakina
                sabakina April 23 2016 15: 47
                +1
                Quote: Simple
                And you can tell in detail what you wanted to say with your comment and why I should look for something somewhere in the video

                WELL YOU AND BRAKE! Have you seen a rocket hit place?
            2. Ros 56
              Ros 56 April 23 2016 15: 30
              +2
              It is strange if the tests were successful, why is Trupchin alive? request
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 April 23 2016 15: 27
        0
        And turn on this song of Glory loudly, lyapota.
  20. loginovich
    loginovich April 23 2016 12: 18
    +4
    Usually they indicate the place from where to where it hit, the target did not hit. And then silence. But for some reason I am not surprised.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 April 23 2016 12: 34
      +2
      loginovich UA Today, 12:18 PM New
      Usually they indicate the place from where to where it hit, the target did not hit. And then silence. But for some reason I am not surprised

      Came back, and therefore silence! laughing
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG April 23 2016 12: 36
      +1
      Quote: loginovich
      Usually they indicate the place from where to where it hit, the target did not hit. And then silence. But for some reason I am not surprised.


      It's simple - MLRS hits the area. Hit the square.
  21. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 23 2016 12: 33
    +4
    Ukrokakly launched ammunition from BM-13, and the rod is like a tornado rocket! We saw their military "inventions": sometimes they make tanks out of a garbage can, then Mosin screw cutters put shoes in plastic and pass them off as the latest weapons, etc. homemade on your knees! Ukrokakly - and that says it all. laughing
  22. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff April 23 2016 13: 27
    +1
    and what kind of rocket? where can fly? where to fall? these cranks are very lucky if she doesn’t break at their start.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 April 23 2016 15: 31
      +2
      Wherever it goes, it will fall there. laughing
  23. Sergg
    Sergg April 23 2016 14: 05
    +2
    The distance to Moscow from Hohland is 450 km. will not reach. What do you think, for what purpose do the Ukrainian fascists build their missiles? I'm not joking, these are our enemies and they must be treated like enemies, unfortunately the Kremlin does not misunderstand this.
    1. Just me
      Just me April 23 2016 14: 38
      -1
      I think the Kremlin AWESOME everything understands
    2. Bramb
      Bramb April 23 2016 15: 41
      +3
      Moscow is well protected. That racket will be knocked down. But at the same time, the area from where the rocket, if it goes, will be erased from the ground at the same minute and a little lower.
      Crest - although he is dumb cattle, he feels danger like a genetic coward from afar! Therefore, it will scream, but only through the fence. )))
  24. _my opinion
    _my opinion April 23 2016 14: 05
    +1
    - they simply reported the test, and did not say about its success (otherwise it would have been advertised)
    - a lot of time passes between "tested" and "adopted", this requires monetary, human costs, technological development, the corresponding technically equipped production (equipped with equipment and
    staffed by qualified personnel) - this chain seems to me to be ... how many links of this chain really exist in Ukraine? But the absence of one of the links will lead to the disappearance of the entire chain
    in my opinion, this is from the category ... so to speak, the energy supply of some residents of Ukraine ...
    1. Bramb
      Bramb April 23 2016 16: 32
      0
      Such a chain remained there: Soviet missiles, old media documentation.
      I won’t be surprised if Ukrainians soon announce that they launched a satellite into space! The media they have developed more than others.))))
  25. mlad
    mlad April 23 2016 14: 52
    +2
    I don’t understand why such a noise - judging by the launch trajectory, this is an ordinary tornado rocket, even if it can be increased by a little range and with a correction of flight in the final section, and therefore a reduced warhead. The question is whether the country will overpower mass production and I don’t think that it is very effective with such a warhead.
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 23 2016 15: 52
    +1
    The question is, in what quantities can Ukraine produce such missiles?
    One or two rockets for window dressing can also be manually riveted.
    But here is the mass production ...
    And the issue of target designation remains open.
  27. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper April 23 2016 16: 56
    +2
    I’m flying there - I don’t know where. I’ll strike you - I don’t know what. )))
  28. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 23 2016 18: 40
    0
    Ukraine tested a tactical missile, while today, one of the main tasks ... provide a fully closed loop its production in Ukraine ”,

    What is it like? Type of cycle? We make a rocket from guano, launch, broads - we collect guano and make a rocket ...?
  29. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN April 23 2016 19: 23
    +2
    They can't make an armored car in their minds, but here they came up with a tactical missile, I won’t be surprised if it also disintegrates at the seams during the flight ...
  30. Dax
    Dax April 23 2016 19: 33
    +1
    Until now, I would prefer to call our southern regions a Wedding In Malinovka or Dikanka, but now it is better to call ukr404. They also have enterprises, for example, an analogue of Russian Railways is called "Ukrzaliznytsia" - you will listen. Americans specifically allow these psychos to play with weapons, they are far away and we are nervous, because they are incapacitated. One of their fish heads (turchinov) and a nickname that stand. They even slipped a flag - a symbol of people with Down syndrome. And those servants have been rejoicing for 25 years: here we are Yakis garni Svidomity.
  31. Lens
    Lens April 23 2016 22: 46
    0
    I agree with Primipilusom - without these characteristics, these spores are not worth a damn.
  32. Orionvit
    Orionvit April 23 2016 23: 04
    0
    Quote: Botanologist
    Quote: Finches
    "Tochka-U" and repainted in zhevto-blocky color were given for the triumph of Ukrainian military thought!


    This is not a point, start with inclined guides. If MLRS, then in principle believable. Moreover, Motor Sich makes engines for cruise missiles and they can pile something close.
    Here the question is different - how to launch not cheap CDs without target designation, which Nenko does not have and there is nowhere to come from.
    The second question is where to get the "brains" for the CD? It is possible, of course, to cooperate with France or Israel, but such a project will not get Ukraine out of money, and in terms of meaning it is not needed. Well, they will make CD, but how to apply them and the meaning of their use in Donetsk, which is shot from any angle by cannon artillery? After all, there are no rear complexes, all equipment and personnel are on the front line.
    So we see only PR support for the next dough.

    Motor Sich has not done anything like this for two years. And if I did, then excuse me it costs so much money that Ukraine has two budgets. Most likely they fired an ordinary rocket from a tornado and presented it as a "peremogu". I'll see what happens when the Soviet stocks run out. How will they be puffed up?