New photos of Syrian oppositionists with Chinese FN-6 MANPADS

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Syrian conflict expert Yuri Lyamin published on his blog (imp-navigator.livejournal.com) new photos of Syrian rebels posing with Chinese portable MANPADS in their hands.



Lyamin writes: “Since I was already asked a few questions about the new appearance of the Chinese FN-6 MANPADS in Syria, I decided to bring the general answer here.

MANPADS FN-6 previously delivered to the Syrian militants in 2013-14. According to an investigation by The New York Times from 2013, these systems were apparently supplied by Qatar, which bought Chinese and Sudanese in Sudan weapon and then shipped to Syria via Turkey. Some of these systems in 2014 fell to the militants of the IG and, for example, in the fall of 2014, they shot down Iraqi Mi-35M with these weapons. Perhaps this fact made the United States put a lot of pressure on Qatar, and supplies seemed to have ceased by 2015. In any case, more than a year they were not visible in frames from Syria.

However, in recent days, more and more photos and videos of militants from FN-6 appear, which clearly indicates a resumption of supplies. ”


Militants in the rastan enclave in the north of Homs province


New photos of Syrian oppositionists with Chinese FN-6 MANPADS







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  1. +2
    April 22 2016 12: 38
    But you can’t make them explode in their hands at launch, for example, using electronic warfare equipment?
    1. +3
      April 22 2016 12: 40
      You can - a microwave oven with directional action to help!
      1. +12
        April 22 2016 12: 42
        No. There is a thermal homing head.
        You won’t do anything with radio-electronic warfare for obvious reasons.
        Microwave radiation of sufficient power is easier to fry the operator, and not to detonate the rocket.
        1. +3
          April 22 2016 12: 46
          Quote: Darkmor
          You won’t do anything with radio-electronic warfare for obvious reasons.

          There are laser control systems, an infrared homing head is burned out with a laser beam. In the complex of counteraction to MANPADS President-S, a similar principle is implemented.
          1. +8
            April 22 2016 13: 24
            Quote: Lt. air force reserve
            laser beam burns infrared homing head

            It does not burn out, just put interference in the IR or UV range on the area where the rocket launch is recorded.
            This will not lead to detonation of the rocket, all the more to its detonation in the "pipe" at the moment of launch. In the best case scenario, the missile will deviate from the course and lose the target's thermal signature.
          2. +2
            April 22 2016 17: 19
            Quote: Lt. air force reserve
            I am. In the complex of counteraction MANPADS President-S

            there is no "battle laser", nothing is burned out


            Optoelectronic Laser Station suppression






        2. 0
          April 22 2016 13: 28
          Quite the contrary - it’s easier for the electronics to burn everything in this wunderwaffe. Although in order to create such a radiation density at a sufficient distance - not a feeble source is needed.
          1. 0
            April 22 2016 23: 59
            Quote: Alexez
            Quite the contrary - it’s easier for the electronics to burn everything in this wunderwaffe. Although in order to create such a radiation density at a sufficient distance - not a feeble source is needed.

            No need to fire ALL the electronics. It is enough to disable the corresponding sensors, which is much easier. For this, there are many methods that are used in the corresponding aircraft protection systems. For example "Vitebsk".
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    3. 0
      April 22 2016 21: 10
      bros fussed over ce a gift so a gift although ours also have fun with it all over Eritrea and Ethiopia Azerbaijan and Armenia money doesn't smell
    4. +1
      April 22 2016 21: 19
      With the help of REP it is impossible, it is possible exclusively with the help of magic.
      1. 0
        April 23 2016 02: 37
        Seeing technology, a medieval man will say that this is magic! Seeing magic, a modern person will say that this is technology)
  2. +1
    April 22 2016 12: 38
    so that they explode in your hands am
  3. +3
    April 22 2016 12: 39
    3 years ago
    1. +1
      April 22 2016 12: 50
      Quote: godofwar6699
      godofwar6699

      Video junk
      Posted by: 7 mar. 2013
      1. +1
        April 22 2016 13: 00
        this is what i said 3 years ago
  4. +2
    April 22 2016 12: 40
    Ours will begin to ask questions to the Chinese women, the Chinese women, in turn, will begin to ask questions to Qatar ... And Qatar will pretend that it does not know anything.
    A good attempt to drive a wedge between Russia and China.
    1. +5
      April 22 2016 13: 13
      In general, of course, I am surprised by the silence of America and Israel, that’s who should ask questions, and obviously not to China. Knowing these bearded people is inadequate, with a probability of 101% I can say that in the near future passenger airliners will be fired by these MANPADS and it will be Western and Israeli airliners.
  5. 0
    April 22 2016 12: 40
    So "soyuznichki". What will Ketai tell us about this?
    1. 0
      April 22 2016 12: 42
      Quote: DenZ
      What will Ketai tell us about this?

      I think for China this is the same news as it is for you.
      1. +6
        April 22 2016 13: 01
        I think for China is the same news as for you
        I do not think that the Chinese are such nonsense. As far as I know, such weapons should be well controlled during the sale and sales contracts should be without the right of resale to third parties. But this is of course purely theoretical ...
        1. -1
          April 22 2016 14: 42
          Quote: DenZ
          . As far as I know, such weapons should be well controlled during the sale and sales contracts should be without the right of resale to third parties.

          Well, you yourself answered yourself
          Quote: DenZ
          But this is of course purely theoretical ...
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    2. +3
      April 22 2016 12: 54
      Quote: DenZ
      What will Ketai tell us about this?

      supplied Qatar, which purchased Chinese in Sudan and Sudanese weapons and then transported to Syria through Turkey

      They say they bought goods through the Pakistanis ... and no matter how China tries to "wash" its hands that it has nothing to do with it, tacit approval is still present, during the war in Afghanistan they supplied the "spirits" through paks ...
      Openly, of course, they are against such supplies, but it turns out that all claims to Qatar to which China did not directly sell MANPADS.
      Anyway, they want to test the effectiveness of their weapons, make ads and sell them as much as possible.
      1. +2
        April 22 2016 13: 14
        Operators China Malaysia Cambodia Sudan Pakistan Peru Islamic State
    3. +3
      April 22 2016 13: 20
      Quote: DenZ
      So "soyuznichki". What will Ketai tell us about this?

      Yes, they will not say anything they have learned well - "money does not smell" and "nothing personal - only business" and most importantly "do not care at all" Our last one should learn a little more and not flirt with "partners" in democratic norms of international law
  6. 0
    April 22 2016 12: 44
    What Qatar is there! Well, the multi-path is the same smart partners and nothing more. Ignore the videoconferencing, but if it works out the RF with the PRC on an indirect play.
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  7. +27
    April 22 2016 12: 52
    I'm a little off topic ...:


    The tragic story of the Russian commandos, senior lieutenant Alexander Prokhorenko, received an unexpected continuation in France. Recall, on March 17, during the liberation of the Syrian Palmyra, the officer heroically died. Once surrounded by ISIS militants (a terrorist organization banned in Russia), the senior lieutenant called on himself rocket-artillery fire.

    According to the Russian Embassy in France, in early April they received a registered parcel. - And there were two military awards of the Second World War. And a letter is attached. It said that the Magee family from the city of Montpellier (this is the south of France) wants to hand over the awards to the widow of the Russian hero who died in Syria, Alexander Prokhorenko, embassy officials told the KP correspondent.

    The couple of Mages explained: they are outraged that the feat of a Russian officer who fought against international terrorism, including in the interests of France, was very superficially reflected in the local media, and to be more precise, it was ignored.

    “The elderly French were very outraged,” said an embassy official who read the letter. - And as a sign of solidarity with the actions of Russia in Syria, they decided to send the Order of the Legion of Honor to the widow of the deceased special forces. He belongs to the father of the family, from the age of 17 participating in the Resistance, who ended up in the Buchenwald concentration camp and then freed from there. They also transmit the Military Cross with the Palm branch of their uncle. He was a pilot of a bomber fighting against the Nazis on the side of Free France.

    In a letter to the French indicated: they understand that the rewards of their close relatives will not have official status in Russia.

    “But they hope to at least provide moral support to the family of the hero officer and thus want to show the solidarity of the fanatic with the Russians,” the embassy staff quotes from the letter.
  8. +1
    April 22 2016 12: 56
    Quote: Katukov
    What Qatar is there! Well, the multi-path is the same smart partners and nothing more. Ignore the videoconferencing, but if it works out the RF with the PRC on an indirect play.


    It’s unlikely that they will succeed, they are exchanging along the line of intelligence and so everyone knows everything. But the gangster opposition seems to be fenced off from Russia and the Syrian army as ISIS is fenced off now.
  9. +3
    April 22 2016 12: 59
    Quote: DenZ
    What will Ketai tell us about this?

    And what will he say? China is a manufacturing country. And that’s it. And to unravel this muddy tangle of a path to Syria is a long and difficult matter. Who will do this?
    1. +2
      April 22 2016 13: 46
      Quote: LÄRZ
      And what will he say? China is a manufacturing country. And that’s it.

      Yes of course. Is that all? When selling a particular type of weapon, the issue of resale to a third party is negotiated immediately. Usually this is strictly prohibited and the point here is not ethical standards. China did not join the agreement on the non-proliferation of MANPADS concluded between the Russian Federation and the United States, but in any case should have reacted by expressing outrage at the actions of the country from which the MANPADS left. But China is silent, which indicates its direct participation in the sale.
  10. +1
    April 22 2016 13: 38
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Ours will begin to ask questions to the Chinese women, the Chinese women, in turn, will begin to ask questions to Qatar ... And Qatar will pretend that it does not know anything.
    A good attempt to drive a wedge between Russia and China.

    As long as the PLA is not involved in military operations abroad, I do not think that they will limit the sale of any weapons, pay and take. Well, the only exceptions are very outspoken terrorists, but from Qatar they are unlikely to ask anything. Although it would be interesting to break through the serials to whom it was shipped, in order to "poke" someone in the face ...
  11. +2
    April 22 2016 13: 38
    Gradually, all accomplices and organizers of the IG are identified.
  12. 0
    April 22 2016 14: 03
    And why it is impossible to equip airplanes with something like tank KAZ? Well, that would be in the direction of the MANPADS rocket firing fragmentation grenades. Surely the same MANPADS missile can be completely seen by radar. Can the amateur explain this question? Thanks in advance. hi
    1. +1
      April 22 2016 15: 30
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      And why it is impossible to equip airplanes with something like tank KAZ?

      The Americans are working on the topic of air defense missiles attacking attacking missiles from any angle. This is their promising direction. But this applies only to combat aircraft.
      It makes no sense to make an analogue of tank KAZ because almost all missiles have a non-contact fuse, the warhead fires next to the attacked aircraft, causing damage by shrapnel and a shock wave. Would the aircraft be armored as well as the tanks, then a 50kg blast. a b / h at five meters would not do any harm, but this is impossible.
  13. +3
    April 22 2016 15: 02
    It’s cheaper to install laser counteraction systems, because when installing KAZ, destruction with its fragments and a blast wave + explosion of an attacked rocket is possible. Everything goes to the fact that the distribution of MANPADS is getting out of control and all army equipment that flies less than 5000m (Su-25, helicopters, transporters) need to be equipped with counteraction systems.
    Otherwise, if there are technically and tactically trained fighters from MANPADS, the result will be the same as in Donetsk and Lugansk. Those. complete paralysis of infantry air support.
    1. +1
      April 22 2016 15: 39
      There is a simpler and cheaper way, heat traps that can lead a MANPADS missile off an airplane, and Chinese MANPADS are just that, there are tactics for using aviation when there are threats of shelling the MANPADS, but first of all, it’s to block the supply channels, I won’t be surprised if it’s behind it USA, through a bunch of shell countries, firms, individuals
  14. +2
    April 22 2016 15: 13
    The Yankees play to the ambush of such a barmaley with MANPADS near their civilian airfield.
  15. +1
    April 22 2016 15: 32
    Dear, all these are fortunetellers on coffee grounds, of course, you can track them down if you wish, but I have two questions: 1) why the Syrian air force does not get the means of combat, even thermal traps, the second question is when the arms trade turns into a means of profit, anyway , these are the facts, the generation of weapons in the hands of militants, this primarily applies to Russia, the sale of modern weapons is a necessary and profitable business, but you need to think to whom and where it is sold
  16. 0
    April 22 2016 22: 28
    Quote: Darkmor
    It does not burn out, just put interference in the IR or UV range on the area where the rocket launch is recorded.
    This will not lead to detonation of the rocket, all the more to its detonation in the "pipe" at the moment of launch. In the best case scenario, the missile will deviate from the course and lose the target's thermal signature.
    I completely agree and it’s not a fact that she will not lie on the abrate course

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