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During the spring draft, according to the plan, about 16,6 thousand young people should get into the Ukrainian army

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The Ukrainian government, led by newly-minted prime ministers, Volodymyr Groysman, approved the spring draft plan presented by the commander-in-chief (Poroshenko). It is reported that in May-June 2016, 16615 recruits should get into the Ukrainian army. At the same time 8015 people will get to the APU, about 4 thousand - to the so-called National Guard, another 4 thousand - to the state border service and 600 people to the state special transport service.


During the spring draft, according to the plan, about 16,6 thousand young people should get into the Ukrainian army


The document of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine states that residents of “separate regions of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions” (as the Ukrainian authorities call Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics), as well as residents of the Crimea, will not be called up for military service. You would think that the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine seriously expected to carry out an appeal in these territories ...

It is reported that the funds from the state budget of Ukraine will be spent on the spring draft campaign in the country. If you believe the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine (and, as practice shows, this practice is far from always to be believed), the cost of a recruiting campaign will be about 54,3 million hryvnia. In other words, for the call-up of the Ukrainian state in May-June, it plans to spend approximately 3,2 thousand hryvnia for each potential recruit. And if the draft campaign (as in previous times) is not executed on 100%, then the funds are unlikely to be returned to the state budget.
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  1. From Samara
    From Samara April 21 2016 18: 16
    -20%
    APU-quickly restored, it is worth recognizing, not everyone is capable of it ...
    1. kotvov
      kotvov April 21 2016 18: 32
      +13
      APU-quickly restored, it is worth recognizing that not everyone is capable of it ... ,,
      I would like to know what is expressed, this is the very restoration. In quantity, this is stupid, but in quality I do not know.
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat April 21 2016 18: 40
        +3
        So I beg you ... he is from the same Samara as I am from Antarctica, well, except that this is the name of a village somewhere near Kiev. )))
        1. From Samara
          From Samara April 21 2016 19: 04
          -10%
          I am writing from Samara ...
          1. Militia
            Militia April 22 2016 00: 41
            +2
            Quote: From Samara
            I am writing from Samara ...


            You can believe that you write from Samara. You forgot to write that in Samara you are working as a guest worker. Since you squandered from this grave from your galicia. Be completely honest or does the Galician-Bandera mentality not allow?
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      3. From Samara
        From Samara April 21 2016 19: 06
        -19%
        Quote: kotvov
        I would like to know what is expressed, this is the very restoration. In quantity, this is stupid, but in quality I do not know.


        It has already been expressed by the number of losses on our part ... I hope you know the details. Or do you naively think that the miners are running there with Needles, for example. From the Needles or Arrows, you still need to be able to launch with our accumulators ... and there Ukrainian Air Force essentially destroyed ...

        Losses on both sides are awful ...
        1. black
          black April 21 2016 19: 41
          +7
          Considering that you are addressing the interlocutor using "you", there are doubts about your Samara roots. Miners, taxi drivers and peasants ran with the Needles. A former officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine conducted the classes. This is me, as a witness I am telling you. Have the APU recovered? What is it like? We deployed two dozen brigades, with infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers for a battalion, and tanks for a platoon. Where the commanders on the order recruit cyanotic avatars for the contract and the shortage is up to 30%. Their losses, ours losses. Sound. And then the OBS news agency broadcasts on other sites.
          1. From Samara
            From Samara April 21 2016 21: 37
            -11%
            Fuck ... well, you're down, real. Our losses are classified ... You probably didn’t hold the needle and the Arrow in your hands, you should have such skills there, you won’t be able to do it in the weather ... Cardboard ball ...
            1. RUSIVAN
              RUSIVAN April 21 2016 22: 48
              0
              Instructions for the use of Igla MANPADS - in Urai ...
              You take a log, put it on your shoulder (preferably), find a flying target in the hole, press the pip and don't forget to shout "glory to Ukraine" after that, otherwise you won't get it ... ALL
              1. igorka357
                igorka357 April 22 2016 04: 08
                -1
                Not no, you hit the target and wait for the signal "glory to khukraine" from the log, and then shouting "to the heroes of the slana" you fart, throw the log and run!
            2. Days
              Days April 21 2016 22: 57
              +3
              Quote: From Samara
              Fuck ... well, you're down, real. Our losses are classified ...

              Yes, we are aware that yours losses are classified, and even your Poroshenko constantly comes up with new victories.
            3. igorka357
              igorka357 April 22 2016 04: 06
              0
              Well, tell me, the commander of the MANPADS department, who omitted 9 out of 10 ITCs, what special skills do you need to have when shooting with MANPADS? Two or three months of intensive theoretical and practical training .. all, then working out the intricacies of using targets, already in combat conditions! Also offends a ..!
    2. Proxima
      Proxima April 21 2016 18: 33
      +1
      Quote: LÄRZ
      residents of “certain regions of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions”, as well as residents of the Crimea, will not be called up for military service.

      And also the inhabitants of the Solomon Islands and Papua New Guinea. And this, too, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine should have been clarified in its statement.
    3. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental April 21 2016 18: 38
      +3
      Quote: From Samara
      APU-quickly restored, it is worth recognizing, not everyone is capable of it ...


      Is being restored? laughing Yes, these are children! This is not war. 2/3 of them will be buried in the cellars or will run away to Russia to stir cement at construction sites. Well, a third of the stoned, who beat the veterans at the rallies, well, let them "fight" - there is a lot of land in Ukraine.
      1. From Samara
        From Samara April 21 2016 19: 07
        -12%
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        Is it recovering? Yes, these are children! This is not war. 2/3 of them will be buried in the cellars or will run away to Russia to stir cement at construction sites. Well, and a third of the stoned, who beat the veterans at the rallies, well, let them "fight" - there is a lot of land in Ukraine.



        Stupid point of view ... belay
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 April 22 2016 04: 13
          0
          Not really stupid, from this point of view your losses are classified and captured and crying forgive my dear brothers, I want to live wrong ... but when they released the bastard, I returned home as a hero .. I still say I’ll probably go again! I doubt it that he’ll go, he’ll get off somewhere in the caches, and he will devour his mother’s and father’s spins! Half of the snot will eat, the other half will be plowed for rubles, it’s a secret!
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    5. forester
      forester April 21 2016 18: 40
      +1
      Quote: From Samara
      APU-quickly restored, it is worth recognizing, not everyone is capable of it ...

      Yeah - for how long? - there was infa that all military equipment disappeared from the zone of infection of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental April 21 2016 18: 43
        +6
        Quote: forester
        there was infa that all military equipment disappeared from the zone of infection of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant

        Stalkers for scrap scrapped wassat
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      3. From Samara
        From Samara April 21 2016 19: 09
        -19%
        Quote: forester
        Yeah - for how long? - there was infa that all military equipment disappeared from the zone of infection of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant


        They have healthy military industrial complex. Yes, and there are enough equipment in the warehouses for storage. The trouble is only with the Air Force and Navy, well, the opposing side has not used the Air Force and Navy yet ...
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 April 21 2016 19: 36
          +14
          Quote: From Samara
          The military-industrial complex in them be healthy.

          What? On wooden goats tanks to collect, well, yes, yes, yes.
          Quote: From Samara
          Yes, and there are enough equipment in the warehouses for storage. The trouble is only with the Air Force and Navy, well, the opposing side does not use the Air Force and Navy yet ...

          Everything that could be used for a long time or sold a long time ago, the Navy and the Air Force do not even want to write, the Kotels have letaki, but LDNR air defense is also not in 2014, the beginning of the ATO, but then the Ukrainian aviation was brushed aside from a corner from the sky. can act only from the Black Sea, and even then away from the Crimea, I don’t say anything about the Sea of ​​Azov, Crimea and Taman can lock it tightly.
          Quote: From Samara

          The main trouble of Russia is that such people underestimate their opponents ...

          Dear, you can’t work at the General Staff of the Russian Federation, the dearest there everyone knows and understands
          Quote: From Samara
          It is a pity that there are many theoreticians-couch cheers patriots, minus not the case.

          But don’t you knock on the clave from the sofa? Well, since you can minus one on the case, for God's sake at least minus, at least plus, but teach how to minus on the case. fellow
          1. From Samara
            From Samara April 21 2016 19: 44
            -16%
            You don’t even understand what you are writing? Ukraine was the second most powerful country in the USSR. The fact that everything was stolen there ... this does not confirm that they are weak, More recently, Russia was not much different from Ukraine, and now they steal in Russia, maybe even no less, no one considered ...

            On the wooden goats on which Ukrainians collect tanks ...Have you been in our factories for a long time? In the workshops of our factories? I am from Samara where there are most of these factories, not so much in any region ...I’ll tell you a secret, the situation is not much better than Ukrainian! On the same wooden goats, sometimes they collect everything, including airplanes! And also the machines of the 1900 model ... And the workers are pensioners alone... belay

            I didn’t minus for a long time until I got it ...
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 April 21 2016 19: 56
              +3
              Quote: From Samara
              You don’t even understand what you are writing? Ukraine was the second most powerful in the USSR.

              The main thing here is this "was", because yes, no matter what, the new armored cars crack after a couple of days of driving off-road, then before that the same thing with the "new" armored personnel carriers. So there is no powerful military-industrial complex in Ukraine, and no longer exists.
              And then - just to call on the green guys and kick them out into the field - there is no need to restore the army ...
              1. From Samara
                From Samara April 21 2016 19: 59
                -11%
                Do you remember the first Chechnya? It was even worse ...

                Of course, the potential in Russia is greater ... And now, there are awesome problems in our army, a ship at sea, accompanied by a tugboat, is just leaving ... But in Ukraine, too, are not fools, they have a lot of smart people ...
                1. RUSIVAN
                  RUSIVAN April 21 2016 22: 56
                  +2
                  You’re a sick person on the head ... The first Chechen is a complete betrayal, when the rank and file themselves understood the fallacy of certain methods of warfare, but despite this they obeyed the orders of their superior ...
                  1. igorka357
                    igorka357 April 22 2016 04: 18
                    +1
                    And here, unfortunately, I have to object to you! The first Chechnya is sheer sloppiness and lack of training, and only then betrayal!
                2. Pavel Tsybai
                  Pavel Tsybai April 21 2016 23: 54
                  +2
                  ..Yes and now awesome problems in our army, A ship at sea, accompanied by a tugboat, is just leaving ...

                  Sorry, dear Samarets, and then someone who accompanies the tugboat. And I forgot in Samara three seas and five ports, you can see everything from there,
              2. Egoza
                Egoza April 21 2016 20: 18
                +4
                Quote: Albert1988
                just call the green guys and kick them out into the field - there’s no need to restore the army ...

                But there are other possibilities ...
                Ukrainian Minister of Defense Stepan Poltorak on April 18 held an official meeting with representatives of the American company DynCorpInternational, which trains military instructors and provides logistics for paramilitary units around the world.

                The meeting was purely advisory in nature, but the agreements were concluded of a completely practical nature. The Americans will train Ukrainian troops, and supply individual units with their equipment. The contract is almost signed, the Ukrainian side must make a final decision within a week.

                Naturally, it's all about money. Poltorak from the last forces brings down the price, and "DynCorpInternational", justifying its authority, upsets the presumptuous savages. Although not everything is so simple in the seemingly ordinary visit of guests from the USA.

                In fact, Poltorak met with expensive American mercenaries on a short leash of the US Department of State.

                DynCorpInternational is a private military contractor that has grown from an aviation enterprise into a major militarized organization.

                Once the company provided only technical support for aviation, then interests and ambitions increased, and now the corporation is already preparing mercenaries for all types of operations around the world. Education and training of intelligence officers, ensuring emergency operations, transportation of weapons to anywhere in the world. At the same time, the company remains virtually private, although it receives 3 billion dollars annually from the US federal government.

                These are the State Department errand boys, whom you can drain and wash your hands at any time. These guys "shone" in all the known hot spots of the world: Bolivia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti, Angola, Kosovo and many others. Such soldiers of fortune, receiving a completely official salary, but supposedly not subordinate to anyone.

                And so the Minister of the country officially meets with such “dogs of war”, whose leadership has been denying the presence of foreign mercenaries in the Donbas for the second year already. Apparently, Kiev no longer intends to hide its true intentions, and the escalation of the conflict will soon grow into full-blown aggression.

                Could it be that under the guise of a new appeal, this PMC will be put up. And they will find money for this. am
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 April 22 2016 10: 45
                  0
                  Quote: Egoza
                  Could it be that under the guise of a new appeal, this PMC will be put up. And they will find money for this.

                  Such a PMC is, of course, serious, and money can be found. Only now the question arises - will this PMC be able to replace the army? As one of the great commanders said (I confess, who has forgotten) - "many will kill for money, but no one will die for money."
                  And in the event of such a serious intensification of the actions of foreign PMCs in Ukraine, I think that ours will not stand aside.
            2. 79807420129
              79807420129 April 21 2016 20: 22
              +14
              Quote: From Samara
              You don’t even understand what you are writing? Ukraine was the second most powerful country in the USSR. The fact that everything was stolen there ... this does not confirm that they are weak

              Well, if you want to talk to YOU, for God's sake, and you compared the ass with your finger, the USSR and Ukraine, to the level of the USSR and Russia does not pull out, since I am silent in Ukraine, then, when the Union collapsed, the Ukrainians successfully sold, plundered, drank and slept for 25 years of independence.
              Quote: From Samara
              . Have you been in our factories for a long time? In the workshops of our factories? I’m from Samara where there are most of these factories, there aren’t so many in any region ... I’ll tell you a secret, the situation is not much better

              What are you? Evona, 25 years old at her native plant (NPO Saturn may have heard), I work, so my dear I know not by hearsay what is done in factories and workshops, We have engines and gas turbines not on wooden trestles collect,
              Quote: From Samara
              including airplanes! And also the machines of the 1900 model ... And the workers are some pensioners ...

              Well, if you want to, believe it or not, but what would the planes do on my knee if you don’t sing a nightingale Do you have any 1900 machines in Samara? Maybe I wasn’t in Samara, I won’t trynding, maybe it’s standing somewhere in the scrap metal collection point, but Saturn has long had no such rarities.
              Quote: From Samara

              I didn’t minus for a long time until I got it ...

              Yes, minus one, it’s a pity to me or something, people do not chase the rating for VO, but express their opinion.
              1. From Samara
                From Samara April 21 2016 20: 39
                -8
                1. I don’t see a big difference in the theft between Ukraine and Russia. Only oil and gas takes advantage of Russia ...
                2.Your NPO Saturn was lucky. Unlucky, for example, our 4 GPPs -http: //swalker.org/zavodi/1109-razrushenie-zavoda-4gpz-g-samara.html

                Unlucky for our Aviation Plant: http://kan-kendarat.livejournal.com/17641.html

                And that's not all ... You can’t argue against these facts! Maybe you need to sort it out yourself first and forever?

                All factories in Russia are not only NPO Saturn ...

                In Samara, the average salary ... is 13 thousand. Samara is all in Mud, Dust, and Dog Shit ... And Samara is also the leader in Russia among the diseases of Oncology, AIDS, Tuberculosis! And you are rubbing me here about Ukraine .. .Nafig us Ukraine? In your house, you need to restore order ... And then we, yes we have ..., and we have a complete ass!

                So nevermind, but we must first and foremost see our shortcomings ...
                1. Odysseus
                  Odysseus April 21 2016 21: 33
                  +4
                  Quote: From Samara
                  In Samara, the average salary ... is 13 thousand.

                  The average salary in Samara in December 2015-22959 rubles.
                  http://samara.trud.com/salary/871.html#chart-avgSalaryByYear
                  Rabinovich, log in smile
                  1. From Samara
                    From Samara April 21 2016 21: 42
                    -7
                    Og, Putin seemed to be talking about realities and statistics already on a straight line, and that’s why a straight line is drawn to feel the realities. It seems like an adult man ... Look, one director of the plant receives 15 million, and a locksmith 8 thousand, count and average ...Numbers then Sly...
                    1. Odysseus
                      Odysseus April 21 2016 21: 56
                      +2
                      Quote: From Samara
                      Ohh, Putin seemed to be talking about realities and statistics already on a straight line, apparently a straight line is drawn to feel the realities. It seems like an adult man ... Look, one factory director receives 15 million, and a locksmith 8 thousand, Count and average ... Figures are crafty ...

                      You wrote average salary -13000 rubles. This is not true.
                      The huge difference in incomes between rich and poor in modern Russia is a fact, but this is characteristic of any capitalist state (including the first capital world with their huge accumulated wealth).
                      Now, the actual salary in Samara is the job site http://samara.irr.ru/jobs-education/vacancies/
                      One can easily see that the wages of workers are significantly higher than 13000 rubles.
                      1. From Samara
                        From Samara April 21 2016 22: 02
                        -4
                        The average is deducted from the calculation of all, both directors and cleaners ... And I tell you about the real average, starting from a turner, ending with a trader (of which most) in the illegal market ...

                        Yes, the wages of workers are higher, but this is not everywhere ... In most factories it is even less than 13 thousand, such plants do not give an announcement, they are gradually getting rid of their own ...
                2. 79807420129
                  79807420129 April 21 2016 21: 35
                  +12
                  Quote: From Samara
                  All factories in Russia are not only NPO Saturn ...

                  I agree that the corporation also includes Ufa, Perm, Lytkarino, many subcontractors that supply components. repeat
                  Quote: From Samara
                  You can’t argue against these facts! Maybe you need to sort it out yourself first and forever?

                  Well, as from this moment in more detail, I was in VO one fox, everyone said that we understand where and don’t know anything, so what should I figure out? Damn sixty dozen hectares of the world I live, I can’t figure it out, you tell peacocks xhe .
                  Quote: From Samara
                  Samara is all in Mud, Dust, and Dog Shit ...

                  Well, so what should I come from Rybinsk and tidy up your yard, I’ll better tidy it up in your own while you write comments on the sofa.
                  Quote: From Samara
                  And you are rubbing me here about Ukraine ... Haha, Ukraine to us? In your house, you need to restore order ... And then we, yes we have ..., but we have a complete ass!

                  Am I erasing you? In 18.13 the article just came out, and in 18.16 your comment was already flaunting about Ukraine. If you have a complete ass, by the way the Internet, it costs money, so don’t sing a nightingale about your ass.
                  1. From Samara
                    From Samara April 21 2016 21: 44
                    -5
                    And he answered ... nothing

                    I gave you links about real cases in real factories, and you painted some garbage ...
                3. RUSIVAN
                  RUSIVAN April 21 2016 22: 58
                  +3
                  1. I don’t see a big difference in the theft between Ukraine and Russia. Russia only brings oil and gas to the advantage ..
                  And America only brings the dollar into advantage And that means that it is not any better than Ukraine)))) .. ???
            3. Days
              Days April 21 2016 23: 16
              +4
              Quote: From Samara
              Have you been in our factories for a long time?


            4. igorka357
              igorka357 April 22 2016 04: 16
              +1
              You’ve been hired for a long time already, and not only here, and not only the minuses!
          2. Lelek
            Lelek April 22 2016 12: 22
            0
            Quote: 79807420129
            The so-called fleet can operate only from the Black Sea, and even then away from the Crimea, about the Sea of ​​Azov, and I do not say, Crimea and Taman can lock it tightly.


            Well, Vlad, you don't know anything. The most powerful and advanced naval forces in the world are teaming up with the most invisible Romanian navies under the auspices of NATO (the name has not yet been invented, but it will probably be "NATUKRUMOS"). This is what the head of the "Nezalezhnaya" - Pan Pedro Waltsman said.
            Remember the old joke ?:
            Little Vovochka went for the first time to first grade, Mom and Dad prepared a table and are waiting for their child from the Temple of Sciences.
            Suddenly the door opens with a kick, Little Johnny with his sleeve torn off, with his eyes shining with fanatical light, a hoarse voice: "Sit here, ancestors, and you don't know anything, and after all, pussy x ... is called."
            This is me, to your ignorance of the most powerful naval association in the world. bully
            (cry.)
        2. RUSIVAN
          RUSIVAN April 21 2016 22: 51
          +3
          Their only misfortune is FOOLS who are trying to command the country ...
      4. 79807420129
        79807420129 April 21 2016 19: 12
        +9
        Quote: forester
        Yeah - for how long? - there was infa that all military equipment disappeared from the zone of infection of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant

        By washing and skating, they will finish their gene pool, after the Chernobyl tanks hardly anyone will be able to sleep with a woman, escaping death in the Donbass, even if they will bind the mop to the end, and they will not give birth to children, It’s as if Obama would be junted with their hands until the last Ukrainian.
        1. forester
          forester April 21 2016 19: 32
          +3
          So let the gene pool be destroyed - I’m not sorry
        2. RUSIVAN
          RUSIVAN April 21 2016 23: 02
          +2
          Do not pay attention to him, he has a spring "mood", and he will soon pass the exam ...
    6. RUSIVAN
      RUSIVAN April 21 2016 22: 40
      +2
      Dear man from Samara, are you there that fell off the rocking chair and hit your head, and then when the doctors carried you on a stretcher a couple of times they dropped it on concrete ???
      Do you yourself even understand that you are writing, who is recovering there, that not everyone is capable of it .... ????
  2. avvg
    avvg April 21 2016 18: 17
    +10
    When the next "mogilization" begins in Ukraine, the number of guest workers in Russia will surely grow.
    1. gergi
      gergi April 21 2016 18: 27
      +2
      Waltzman and Groisman want to fight to the last shit. Somewhere it was already. The most Ukrainian Ukrainians in Ukraine are Jews.
      1. hartlend
        hartlend April 21 2016 19: 11
        +1
        The so-called God-chosen ones destroy the Slavs by the hands of the Slavs.
    2. DMB_95
      DMB_95 April 21 2016 18: 38
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      When the next "mogilization" begins in Ukraine, the number of guest workers in Russia will surely grow.

      For a successful draft campaign, the outskirts would be very useful for their military commissariats in Russia, where so many ukrov are hiding from the draft. But this is a joke, like all of them.
    3. forester
      forester April 21 2016 18: 38
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      When the next "mogilization" begins in Ukraine, the number of guest workers in Russia will surely grow.

      It seems like - here they are dancing there from the abolition of visas by the geyropoy - it seems early - not everyone will have time however)))
  3. siberalt
    siberalt April 21 2016 18: 18
    +5
    It's time to call the call to the Ukrainian military service by its name "a planned roundup for sending to cannon fodder." laughing
  4. newcomer
    newcomer April 21 2016 18: 20
    +5
    I doubt that they will recruit 16000 recruits, I doubt it.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 21 2016 19: 57
      0
      The population of Ukraine is 38 million - so 16000, I think, will be easy to type - recruitment methods are known - the National Guard will also help.
  5. Alex ..
    Alex .. April 21 2016 18: 21
    +10
    Crimean draftees are worried about the possible failure of the draft company. wink
  6. drags33
    drags33 April 21 2016 18: 21
    +3
    "According to the plan, about 16,6 thousand young people should get into the Ukrainian army during the spring draft"

    They will get, they will get ... Most likely, to the grave ... Or to a psychiatric hospital.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 21 2016 18: 28
      +2
      It looks like a svimdomy from the Nazi "tsezor.net" was formed on the forum and, out of habit, spits in the pot to everyone laughing Ku-ku, sick, show a little face! am
      1. forester
        forester April 21 2016 18: 55
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        It looks like a svimdomy from the Nazi "tsezor.net" was formed on the forum and, out of habit, spits in the pot to everyone laughing Ku-ku, sick, show a little face! am

        STE who is like "from Samara"))) - a zaslanets appeared)))
  7. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental April 21 2016 18: 24
    +6
    Nu-nu. In the summer, Russians usually do repairs in apartments ... that's where you look for your 16 "conscripts" I did repairs that summer - I told the foreman - no cakes! So he Moldovan wrote out a whole family (!). We must pay tribute - handy, devils.
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 April 21 2016 19: 17
      +9
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      I did the repair that summer, the foreman said - no crap!

      Oh, Ivan Arnoldovich, all the same, it was necessary to take kakelov, even if before the beginning of the work, kakeli would sing the anthem of Russia in the choir and after the end of work too. hi
  8. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ April 21 2016 18: 25
    +4
    residents of “certain regions of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions”, as well as residents of the Crimea, will not be called up for military service.
    And there are Ukrainian military registration and enlistment offices ?? But conscription money from these areas has certainly been allocated. Not a bad cut is planned for them. 16,6 thousand it is necessary to "shave". "Mission Impossible."
  9. Wolverine
    Wolverine April 21 2016 18: 33
    +3
    Well, plan and implement not the same thing ...
  10. atamankko
    atamankko April 21 2016 18: 39
    +3
    Let them think for themselves, to us their grave to the bulb.
  11. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 21 2016 18: 48
    +2
    It is necessary to defend the homeland, and not alien power.
    And these are different things, as they say in Odessa ...
  12. gergi
    gergi April 21 2016 19: 00
    +2
    Like, Samara, the bastard runs, they undermine everyone. It seems he is not Samara but Svidomo.
    1. From Samara
      From Samara April 21 2016 19: 17
      -7
      Yeah ... to you psychiatrist
  13. From Samara
    From Samara April 21 2016 19: 17
    -7
    It is a pity that there are a lot of theoreticians-couch cheers of patriots, minus not the case ...


    The main trouble of Russia is that such people underestimate their opponents ... it is softly said ...

    But essentially there’s no one to talk to ... belay
    1. black
      black April 21 2016 19: 46
      +5
      And you justify in numbers. Sources of information describe. In general, we can all talk.
      1. From Samara
        From Samara April 21 2016 20: 03
        -6
        Read those above ...
        1. black
          black April 21 2016 20: 27
          +3
          I would like to note to you that the appeal to "you" is absent among those peoples who have not gone through a long period of socio-cultural development. Those who are stuck at the level of tribal relations. I read above and below. You haven't written anything concrete. Do you know how many and what tanks the APU had? How many of them and which were in long-term storage, which are constantly in use? Do you even know what to do with a unit of armored vehicles after twenty years of storage, in the first place? And how many tanks are in service with the Ukrainian Armed Forces now? Can you at least give an approximate figure for the loss of ammunition stocks in Ukraine until 2013? You are an amateur. Return to sites where flowers are given to each other and kittens are admired.
          1. From Samara
            From Samara April 21 2016 20: 59
            -3
            You, you ... Somehow you are not fools for you ... originally you were, but I see sitting on the buttons ... playing pluses ...

            Virtually indecent to write about oneself, all the more incognito ... but apparently it doesn’t bother ... About my two wars I would have been better silent, I would have looked more solidly!
    2. gergi
      gergi April 21 2016 20: 10
      +3
      Overestimated you, my dear, overestimated. Do not think that the most cunning.
      1. From Samara
        From Samara April 21 2016 20: 14
        -7
        I don’t care, but downs like you feed the first worms into the earth with their bodies. There haven’t been any war for a long time, so fools like you ... burdened, dressed up ...) stung in the ass ...

        In the war, nevertheless, there are two pluses: 1. Fools are the first to fall into the grave; 2. Science is moving
        1. black
          black April 21 2016 20: 41
          0
          There was no war in Ukraine for a long time. You correctly noticed it. Yes, and at the expense of fools on an independent ..., I will not argue with you. Personally, during my two and a half wars, I did not allow irretrievable losses of personnel. And you? Yes. And I really wanted to hear at what Samara plant, working on the military-industrial complex, are the 1900 machines of the year?
          1. From Samara
            From Samara April 21 2016 20: 55
            -2
            Above the boy, read above, there are links ..
            1. black
              black April 21 2016 21: 09
              0
              The kid is the eleventh year in retirement. Grandpa, so in what workshop are the 1900 machines of the year standing there? Or maybe back to the beginning. Tell us in numbers, how are the good forces of Ukraine restored?
              1. From Samara
                From Samara April 21 2016 21: 27
                -2
                I saw it in the construction workshop, cuts the armature, the machine for 1900 ...

                Anyone who is in the Donbass, he will understand how the APU is being restored ... And those who have not suffered losses in their two and a half wars will not understand, they are in their parallel world ...
                1. black
                  black April 21 2016 21: 32
                  +1
                  I saw, I saw. He spent five months in the Donbass. I saw it with my own eyes. And I saw the corpses dill thrown at Debaltseve. And how the Ukrainian officers, their subordinates in positions, threw. And super restored technique of the late seventies. So do not tell me.
                  1. From Samara
                    From Samara April 21 2016 21: 46
                    -2
                    ipa cha suffered ... About everything that you wrote it was, it is always and everywhere, write better about the losses and the opposite side ...
          2. From Samara
            From Samara April 21 2016 21: 06
            -2
            Quote: black
            Personally, during my two and a half wars, I did not allow irretrievable losses of personnel.


            Yes, and right away from this phrase I draw an unmistakable conclusion! Balabol. But a war without losses simply does not happen ... at least one inadequate will always be found ... either he will shoot himself, or he will stick out his shiny cockade somewhere ... And then for two and a half wars ... Especially on First Chechen, language in the rear fought? Oga ... write ischo
            1. black
              black April 21 2016 21: 16
              0
              What war did you participate in? So what about APU?
              1. From Samara
                From Samara April 21 2016 21: 23
                -2
                Why do you need to know that? I'm not going to scratch my tongue to myself.

                APU? A lot of graves from them are scattered across Russia ... bad that. Especially sorry platoon ... (
                1. black
                  black April 21 2016 21: 26
                  0
                  Yes, you only do that by scratching your tongue on the keyboard. You are our humble one. So what about the "regeneration" of the APU?
                  1. From Samara
                    From Samara April 21 2016 21: 29
                    -2
                    Write a report, congresses, check the APU for yourself ... a retirement guy ...)
                    1. black
                      black April 21 2016 21: 36
                      0
                      I wrote to you above. I was already there, a volunteer. No report. So what's up with the restoration of the APU? Are you listening?
                      1. From Samara
                        From Samara April 21 2016 21: 49
                        -1
                        You’re lying. It brings the brains quickly in order, but I haven’t seen anything besides the self-PR yet ... and I haven’t noticed the brain ...
                      2. black
                        black April 21 2016 21: 59
                        0
                        So what's up with the restoration of the APU?
                      3. From Samara
                        From Samara April 21 2016 22: 10
                        -2
                        And the fact that Donetsk and Lugansk region is not all free. Slavyansk is lost, Kramatorsk is lost, a number of iconic commanders in the Luhansk region were liquidated by their intelligence agents ... not everything is so simple, right?
                      4. black
                        black April 21 2016 22: 20
                        +2
                        I asked you about the restoration of the Armed Forces. This is where you started your "apupeia" in this discussion. You shouldn't play your games with me. Tell us about the restoration of the APU. How many there were and how many brigades and individual regiments were. How many were and how many were: tanks, artillery pieces, MLRS systems. How the numerical strength has increased. How many regular officers continue to serve. How many left, deserted, fled from Ukraine. How many new tanks the Kharkov plant produced. How many factories in Ukraine produce cartridges and shells for the needs of the army. How the mobilization reserve has changed. Speak slowly. I am writing down. Whoo-oo-oo ?!
                      5. From Samara
                        From Samara April 21 2016 22: 27
                        -2
                        Well, yes, the loss of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, the agents introduced into the ranks of the leadership of the army of Donbass, where more than one commander was eliminated ... this is not the APU with its intelligence, these are aliens ...

                        What data on regiments, on brigades, on tanks ... down? They are secret everywhere, I draw conclusions on the real state of affairs on the fronts from the media, where I do not see anyone's point blank ...

                        Down, write more about the weakness of the APU ...
                      6. black
                        black April 21 2016 22: 53
                        +1
                        And I conclude that you are an ordinary Khokhlyatsky zaplanitel. Typical, for our neighbors, linguistics and style. And the training manual is very familiar. At the moment, the strength of the Armed Forces contingent involved in the ATO is 25 brigades. This is formally, according to the list. Four artillery brigades, four tank. True tanks in Ukraine are only enough for two. More than 300 units of the APU cannot be placed in the ATO zone. Scattered along the front line, they cannot create serious problems. Missiles for launchers like Point U and Moon, about twenty units. Shell factories in Ukraine, one. The main products are 82 mm mines. Cartridges are not made. The strength of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has tripled over the past two years. True moto infantry battalions turned into infantry. And the decline in Soviet stockpiles of ammunition, before the 2013 year, in Ukraine, amounted to about 0,5 million tons per year. Starting from the 14 year, the bulk of the platoon company’s officers are jackets, or graduates of a two-month course. All the best weapons and personnel are concentrated at NSU. And you are an amateur. Like a troll, also an amateur.
  • RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN April 21 2016 23: 08
    0
    In essence, there’s no one to talk to?
    I’m talking with you as sober with a drunk, when one waving glass after glass talks about life, philosophizing that everything is somehow wrong and not like that, and these others unanimously, TAKE ALREADY KNITTING ...
    So we tell you ENOUGH already, TYPE, look at life soberly ... though!
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 21 2016 19: 47
    +5
    "Peacocks, sorry, you say from Samara? Heh!" (c) How is everyone jumping there in Samara?
    1. From Samara
      From Samara April 21 2016 20: 04
      -6
      To a psychiatrist ... to a psychiatrist ... to you
  • From Samara
    From Samara April 21 2016 20: 09
    -10%
    downs here to fig ...
  • gergi
    gergi April 21 2016 20: 17
    +4
    Something you turned on mental ailments, you send everyone to the fool. How long have you been from there?
    1. RUSIVAN
      RUSIVAN April 21 2016 23: 12
      +1
      So he probably writes from this "fool" ...
  • erik cartman
    erik cartman April 21 2016 22: 36
    -3
    Lad From Samara you are trolling, for which he is the fattest plus. What a srach got up. Handsome. On the topic whether or not the draft plan will be fulfilled or not implemented in Ukraine, the situation around Donbass is practically unchanged. The most adequate comment in my opinion long ago was given by Svetlana Montyan - an agreement. Everyone is happy with everything. Ukraine is sucking money in the West for this cause, Donbass’s power is in Russia, and by and large it’s not a shit for ordinary people. Big politics is her mother like that.
    1. black
      black April 21 2016 23: 11
      +3
      Well, let’s put the West, cut the solder. By call. Will they fulfill the plan or not, it doesn’t matter. Conscripts do not want to fight. Contractors? Avatar on avatar and avatar customize. The quality of the officers. Remember the 128 brigade that was ground under Debaltseve? There, officers fled before the soldiers. But formally the brigade commander retained the officers. They run understaffed. Those. added from 80 to 90% of personnel and back to the ATL. For processing.
  • Militia
    Militia April 22 2016 01: 02
    0
    2.Your NPO Saturn was lucky. Unlucky, for example, our 4 GPPs -http: //swalker.org/zavodi/1109-razrushenie-zavoda-4gpz-g-samara.html

    What about this? http://www.spz4.ru/products.shtml
    Maybe you do not need to induce a chuck here?
  • Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf April 22 2016 04: 35
    0
    Yes, turn off the heads of the psychiatric hospital’s psychiatric doctor in Samara, or drive the patient out of the office. Are you sleeping there or something? The nurse may have forgotten the phone, so the patient found and barks until the owner comes in and gives a shot or injection.
  • volodya
    volodya April 22 2016 05: 25
    +1
    Again they will run to us to hide from mobilization!
  • sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 22 2016 05: 42
    0
    Petka wants China to surpass the number of troops. Only from this scum of the army will not work.
  • Ispitatel
    Ispitatel April 22 2016 14: 38
    0
    ... as well as residents of the Crimea, Rostov and Moscow regions.