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Plan "B" and the Marines

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Not so long ago, it became known that Japan ordered 30 amphibious amphibious aircraft AAVP-7A1 instead of the originally planned 52 units. However, the missing amount can be purchased later. In the meantime, the Japanese, according to various sources, operate from 4 to 6 AAVP-7A1 of various modifications and the results, apparently, are very satisfied. It is worth noting that right now, significant changes are taking place in the structure of the Ground Self-Defense Forces. In connection with the mass disposal of large quantities tanks Type-74, whose crews are urgently transplanted to Type-10 tanks, wheeled tanks MCV and, in fact, AAVP-7A1. In addition, floating conveyors based on MCV are also being developed.



Self Defense Forces test AAVP-7A1 from the first batch


Japanese army along with fleet и aviation getting ready to enter the era of mobile wars. To do this, she needs a fundamentally different equipment, as a result of which the equipment of the Cold War era is sequentially written off. Among the planned changes is the reconstruction of the Marine Corps by 2018. Historically, a single marine corps in the Japanese Empire never existed. Both the navy and the army had their own landing units. After World War II, they were all liquidated between 1945 and 1947. The revival of the landing forces began already in the 1950s, but for another forty years the technical means remained quite primitive, since tank landing vessels had to approach directly to the shore, which made them easy prey for any more or less serious enemy.

The breakthrough took place in 1995, when the first ship of the Osumi class was commissioned, a kind of ersatz-UDC with a displacement of up to 15 000 tons. In total, there were three such "ersatz". Each ship is capable of taking on board two landing boats LCAC (Landing Craft Air Cushion), as well as 18 tanks of Type-90 or 27 vehicles, apart from the fact that trucks could potentially be located on the upper deck, which is usually given to aircraft.



The latter will be either Boeing CH-47 Chinook or Bell V-22 Osprey helicopters, which are planned to be purchased in quantities up to 20 machines by the 2018 year. On one deck they can accommodate up to 4 machines, but hangars on Osumi are not provided for them. The plans include modernization of the ships, so that in addition to two LCACs, a number of AAVP-7A1 amphibians could be squeezed in addition. For this, the Japanese are ready to dance with a tambourine: some constructions will be removed, and the size of the ship will be increased at the same time.

Do not forget about the two helicopter carrier class "Hyuga" and two newest semi-avian carrier class "Izumo". They, of course, are not amphibious, but anti-submarine, but theoretically they could well be involved in amphibious adventures. Enough helicopters.

It makes sense to mention that the Ministry of Defense of Japan back in 2014 year expressed the wish to purchase one of the second-hand American UDC of the “Wasp” type. True, the reaction of the United States itself to the proposal is not yet known, for the “Wasp” ships are relatively new and such ones will be useful by themselves. In any case, the sale process will last for years, since the transaction requires permission from Congress.

Plan "B" and the Marines


American convertiplane on the deck "Osumi"


Although formally the Japanese marines do not exist, in fact, its role is performed by two units at once. These are the 13 Brigade in Hiroshima and the infantry regiment of the Western Army in Sasebo. In total, this is a little over 4000 people. Of these units, they plan to create a full-fledged marines for the 2018 year, with an initial strength of three thousand fighters. This is not much, considering that there are ten times more marines in neighboring South Korea, not to mention China, with its huge fleet of landing craft.

As can be seen from the geographical location of parts of the marines, the main direction is southern, and the most likely adversary is China. However, until Osumi is modernized, the rush purchase of the latest AAVP-7 amphibian modification can have only one dimension - the Kuril. From Hokkaido to the nearest island of the chain Habomai 8 km, to Kunashir - 18 km. The speed of the AAVP-7 on the water is 13 km / h.



Japanese journalists are exploring a new car that is being tested at low temperatures


Does this mean that invasion has a reason to wait tomorrow? No, does not mean. Will Japan have enough strength to capture the southern or even all of the Kuriles and even Sakhalin? Maybe enough. But it's not that. If someone thinks that it will be a classic 20 attack of the century, then he is cruelly mistaken. Modern wars are waged differently - the enemy is exhausted in various conflicts and internal squabbles, after which they come for the prize, almost without meeting resistance. Here, by the way, it is appropriate to recall a major article published on the website of the Chinese Xinhua Agency in December 2015, where Russian actions were assessed in terms such as “systemic crisis” and “strategic deadlock”. Japanese analysts are at least as good as Chinese ones, but they do not spread their conclusions to the press, but directly to the military. Actually, including for this reason, the Marines are being revived at such a rapid pace. The collapse of the control center of a neighboring country is obviously seen by the General Staff of the Land of the Rising Sun as a very close prospect. So while the Japanese are preparing and waiting for the "divine wind" to blow in the right direction for them.

Since August 2014, Japanese submarines have been actively engaged in reconnaissance activities in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and in the north of the Sea of ​​Japan. A year earlier, the landing on the California coast was worked out with the Americans.

Referring to the Americans, by the way, it should be noted that it was the States that indirectly caused the revival of the Japanese marines. The reluctance of the Obama administration to fulfill US military obligations caused a stir in many world capitals. It was also an unpleasant surprise in Tokyo, where they thought about the defense of remote islands on their own. Although later in Washington they caught on and confirmed their guarantees regarding the Senkaku Islands, the sediment has already remained.

Summarizing, we can say that the rebuilding of the marines fits into the long-term strategy of reorienting from the northern threat to the southern threat. A change in geographic priorities inevitably entails a transformation of the army. Also, the improvement of modern weapons allows the security perimeter to be moved further away from its own shores - into the ocean. At the same time, mobility, which is so important in modern warfare, is increasing. With the main focus on the southern direction, the revived marines are initially created as a universal tool that can be used anywhere. This is what Japanese marines differ from similar units in China and both Koreas, which are sharpened for completely unambiguous goals.
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  1. kuznec
    kuznec April 22 2016 06: 11
    +19
    "Here, by the way, it is appropriate to recall a major article published on the website of the Chinese Xinhua news agency in December 2015, where the actions of the Russian leadership were assessed in terms such as" systemic crisis "and" strategic deadlock. "

    Something does not fit the "strategic impasse" with the recent news about the construction of hundreds of military infrastructure facilities in the Kuril Islands. In any case, the South Kurils cannot be given away. Otherwise, the Pacific Fleet turns into a heap of scrap. This is Russia's gateway to the Pacific Ocean. It remains to hope for the sanity of the top management.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan April 22 2016 08: 12
      +10
      You can’t give away an inch of your land, we paid for it with the blood of our people, this Kuril or another piece of our country is not important, it is important that this is our land! And the article is very correct, the Japanese are building up their military potential and the fact that they are against Russia ... And of course they will work according to the old scheme, as with China ... First they will destroy the country from the inside with the help of propaganda and provocations, and then they will capture everything without a single shot ... The difference is that now they are not acting against us as before against China, but together with the USA and EU countries ...
      1. Rico1977
        Rico1977 April 23 2016 01: 34
        -4
        But China is with us. It is stronger than the EU. There is no military solution to the issue. They will get lost and will continue to shit and express concerns. Nobody will give them the Kuril Islands. They are being strengthened by new ships, air defense systems, coastal complexes, and aircraft. They were offered joint economic management in our jurisdiction. They disagreed. this was our last proposal for reconciliation. They will not go to war - the situation they have now is not to fight, especially since China is pressing from the south. And we will not be able to arrange revolutions for them. We missed the moment at 12m. And now looking at the ruin - these "revolutionaries" and idiots yapping at Putin will simply be beaten.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood April 23 2016 13: 58
          0
          Quote: Rico1977
          But China is with us.
          Truth? They themselves confirmed this. Yes, the Chinese, in which case they themselves will join the division of the Russian pie, if only the case turned up.
          Quote: Rico1977
          they will not be able to arrange revolutions with us
          In the 12th year there were no sanctions and the collapse of the ruble. And now, against the backdrop of all this, government ratings are slowly going down. Open any article about the Russian economy here at VO, so there half of the comments are filled with revolutionary spirit and calls for the overthrow of the government.
          Quote: Rico1977
          the idiots yapping at Putin will simply be beaten.
          Who will beat, the National Guard? These can, not in vain were created.
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    2. Kibalchish
      April 22 2016 08: 33
      +8
      The landing is prepared under two conditions.

      1. Failure of diplomatic efforts to return the Kuriles.

      2. The collapse of state power in the Russian Federation.

      The second scenario can be implemented if Putin’s liberal friends (Like Kudrin and Ulyukayev) continue to drive the economy into the abyss.
      1. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest April 22 2016 12: 05
        +5
        Quote: Kibalchish
        The second scenario can be implemented if Putin’s liberal friends (Like Kudrin and Ulyukayev) continue to drive the economy into the abyss.

        The dear forgot about Chubik, somehow the GDP and called him his friend.
        1. Rico1977
          Rico1977 April 23 2016 01: 32
          -1
          He calls amerikosov partners, so what? I would call it an enemy - I would have to fight. Or do you have a sword and a horse? So go to Donbass show your agility
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest April 23 2016 10: 17
            +2
            Quote: Rico1977
            He calls amerikosov partners, so what? I would call it an enemy - I would have to fight. Or do you have a sword and a horse? So go to Donbass show your agility

            That is precisely why we have problems - because the Yankees openly call us enemies, and our government still partners with them. Is it time to pull your head out of one place and look around?
          2. Greenwood
            Greenwood April 23 2016 14: 05
            +1
            Quote: Rico1977
            I would call it an enemy - I would have to fight.
            Why would you ?! Americans are compared with Putin to Hitler, but he is all good for them.
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      2. Achilles
        Achilles April 22 2016 14: 36
        +2
        The landing is prepared under two conditions.

        1. Failure of diplomatic efforts to return the Kuriles.

        2. The collapse of state power in the Russian Federation.

        The second scenario can be implemented if Putin’s liberal friends (Like Kudrin and Ulyukayev) continue to drive the economy into the abyss.


        So what? no one will go to sweep Putin, soon they will go to sweep the government and then only with slogans, then go on to overthrow the government, no one will allow it, it’s not Ukraine, so the collapse of state power does not shine for us and all these statements are empty talk
        1. Altona
          Altona April 22 2016 14: 48
          +1
          Quote: Achilles
          So what? no one will go to sweep Putin, soon they will go to sweep the government and then only with slogans, then go on to overthrow the government, no one will allow it, it’s not Ukraine, so the collapse of state power does not shine for us and all these statements are empty talk

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          In any case, the power to sweep away will not work, but the people have no weapons. In 1917, the authorities swept away, having in their hands a rifle and not one. It was also in China when communist China emerged from the ashes of World War II. We can only express active disagreement with the current course of the Government.
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest April 22 2016 15: 56
            +2
            Quote: Achilles
            So what? no one will go to sweep Putin, soon they will go to sweep the government and then only with slogans, then go on to overthrow the government, no one will allow it, it’s not Ukraine, so the collapse of state power does not shine for us and all these statements are empty talk

            It seems to me that you simply do not take into account the fatigue of ordinary people from such a "government". Yesterday I was driving in a minibus and some woman in her 50s began to praise VVP (she was all with expensive clothes) - so they almost ate her alive and no one stood up for her, on the contrary, they supported her. Including me. Draw your own conclusions, please. And my conclusion is that what our government is doing now is pure suicide.
            Quote: Altona
            In any case, the power to sweep away will not work, but the people have no weapons. In 1917, the authorities swept away, having in their hands a rifle and not one. It was also in China when communist China emerged from the ashes of World War II. We can only express active disagreement with the current course of the Government.

            And you, it seems to me that you simply underestimate the ingenuity of ordinary people - if necessary, they will get the tanks, maybe even a couple of fighters, since everyone now knows where in our country lies.
            1. Rico1977
              Rico1977 April 23 2016 01: 23
              +1
              complete nonsense I see the Communists again began to excite? Are you torn to power? At all forums, they yell at Putin, such as they themselves are something. Type know how to manage. With a mattress Zyuganov you only in the cemetery to do the revolution. Of you, revolutionaries, like from an Aries bullet (not like in 17m), only in the Internet you can yap and know how. And meet with the US ambassador. Tronet Putin Bosko unscrew. Do you get it?
              1. Misha Honest
                Misha Honest April 23 2016 10: 36
                +2
                Quote: Rico1977
                complete nonsense I see the Communists again began to excite? Are you torn to power? At all forums, they yell at Putin, such as they themselves are something. Type know how to manage. With a mattress Zyuganov you only in the cemetery to do the revolution. Of you, revolutionaries, like from an Aries bullet (not like in 17m), only in the Internet you can yap and know how. And meet with the US ambassador. Tronet Putin Bosko unscrew. Do you get it?

                Well, first of all - I see that you haven't traveled by public transport for a long time - I highly recommend it - it's sobering! :) Secondly, I am not a communist, but a monarchist - I am not on my way with the Communist Party in its current form. Thirdly, not every person who is dissatisfied with the GDPR policy is a liberal. And by the way, it's not me, but your "idol" who calls the Yankees partners and is friends with the liberals. And fourthly, why are you barking on the Internet then? hi
              2. Greenwood
                Greenwood April 23 2016 14: 07
                +1
                Quote: Rico1977
                Tronet Putin
                Well you get the fifth point of licking power. Pay at least for it?
                Quote: Rico1977
                unscrew the Bosko.
                Unscrew your head yourself first, all the same, it is no use.
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          2. Shadowcat
            Shadowcat April 22 2016 16: 55
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            In any case, the power to sweep away will not work, but the people have no weapons.

            The people were shooting so much ...
            But that's not the point. Look at the 1978 Iranian revolution. Was there a weapon? They just sat peacefully.
          3. savage1976
            savage1976 April 22 2016 17: 06
            +3
            Weapons, if we seriously approach the topic, are more than enough, only it will turn not against the government and the president, but against those who go to sweep them. The Maidan in Russia is doomed, because with their sanctions and anti-Russian rhetoric, they not only turned all the negativity against themselves, but included the Russian citizens' regime to prevent interference, when everyone will try to annoy the aggressor harder.
      3. Rico1977
        Rico1977 April 23 2016 01: 13
        0
        they are as friends to him as they are to us. He just does everything consciously and slowly, evolutionarily, not like you "revolutionaries" immediately take away and divide ...
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest April 23 2016 10: 42
          +1
          Quote: Rico1977
          they are as friends to him as they are to us. He just does everything consciously and slowly, evolutionarily, not like you "revolutionaries" immediately take away and divide ...

          Perhaps this is wonderful - at your age (if the number in the nickname, of course, indicates the year of birth), believe in fairy tales! wink
      4. Rico1977
        Rico1977 April 23 2016 01: 13
        0
        they are as friends to him as they are to us. He just does everything consciously and slowly, evolutionarily, not like you "revolutionaries" immediately take away and divide ...
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood April 23 2016 14: 09
          +1
          Quote: Rico1977
          He just does everything consciously and slowly
          Cho, by the middle of the century we’ll at least live? Or still survive?!
    3. Maksus
      Maksus April 22 2016 12: 03
      +2
      The author may be right in many respects, but with the disposal of Type-74 he got excited. The latest Type-10 is its deeply RECYCLED version. So they will not be thrown out, but brought to mind.
    4. Achilles
      Achilles April 22 2016 14: 30
      +1
      Does this mean that the invasion makes sense to wait tomorrow? No, it doesn’t. Will Japan have the strength to seize the southern or even all of the Kuril Islands and even Sakhalin? Maybe enough. But it's not that. If someone thinks that this will be a classic attack in the style of the 20th century, then he is cruelly mistaken. Modern wars are fought differently - the enemy is exhausted in various conflicts and internal squabbles, after which they come for a prize, almost without resistance.


      It doesn’t fit my mind how you can even think of attacking a nuclear power, in any case there’s a big risk of getting the Nuclear Club at the top of the head, and the Japs have small islands, they understand perfectly well that if they do, they will not be at all on this planet
      1. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest April 22 2016 16: 02
        +1
        Quote: Achilles
        It doesn’t fit my mind how you can even think of attacking a nuclear power, in any case there’s a big risk of getting the Nuclear Club at the top of the head, and the Japs have small islands, they understand perfectly well that if they do, they will not be at all on this planet

        They (the Japs) also understand that to press the nuclear button first means to make yourself the killer of all living things on the planet and the most damned person, if someone is lucky enough to survive ... So, my opinion is that no one will dare to do this - only a complete psycho or clinical down, and only as a last resort. And, most likely, we will have to fight in the old way, and we are Russia, now we are not ready for this ...
        1. jktu66
          jktu66 April 22 2016 20: 31
          +1
          and we are Russia, now we are not ready for this ...
          Somehow here we, Russia, are not ready to fight our whole history, but we fought and for the most part won smile
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest April 22 2016 22: 39
            +1
            Quote: jktu66
            Somehow here we, Russia, are not ready to fight our whole history, but we fought and for the most part won

            Always, when we won, we were lucky with the rulers, but there were also when we lost - this is when we were unlucky with the rulers. So - now we have a time of bad luck.
    5. Rico1977
      Rico1977 April 23 2016 01: 19
      -2
      Bullshit. The economy has already started to grow, even the World Bank recognized 1,5% growth that year. Industrial production and agriculture in general are growing rapidly. The alarmists are bad. We will not give up the Kuril Islands. They are not being strengthened for that. New weapons are being delivered. New lines are being introduced at Zvezdochka, and they will most likely start building large ships this year. And next they will introduce docks where it will be possible to build aircraft carriers. Kind of like the largest dock in Russia. Some scribblers here remind us of a block - they tore us to shreds. We only began to focus on a large scale. We were besieged after the Crimea, detained. But not for long. We ourselves can do everything. And we will do it. And wow about the internal "revolutions" generally keep quiet - I will personally strangle "onizhedeti". Revolution does not shine for them
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 23 2016 14: 16
        +1
        I even comment on this nonsense reluctance, but oh well.
        Quote: Rico1977
        On "Zvezdochka" new ropes are introduced
        Cho is injected there? Have you been there, at the Zvezda? It is full of embezzlement, payment delays and corruption scandals.
        Quote: Rico1977
        And in the next they will introduce docks where it will be possible to build aircraft carriers.
        In the next, yeah yeah. And if they introduce it, they will build tankers and gas carriers for export (more than once it has already been mentioned), there will be no aircraft carriers in the coming years.
        Quote: Rico1977
        We ourselves can do everything. And we will do it.
        Putin has been in power for 16 years. Under Stalin, during this period, the country destroyed by the war completely recovered, launched a satellite and a man into space. Under Putin, for 16 years we continue to follow the West’s lead on many issues, the ruble is in a fever in all directions, the dependence of its exchange rate on the oil rate is unambiguous, the ministers are discussing what other state-owned company should be put up for auction in order to somehow fill the budget with dough, and the average salary in neighboring China has already exceeded the Russian one. And yes, of course we can do anything.
        Quote: Rico1977
        I will personally strangle "onizhedeti"
        It seems to be an adult, but you reason as a minor degenerate from Putin's ONF.
    6. Rico1977
      Rico1977 April 23 2016 01: 19
      0
      Bullshit. The economy has already started to grow, even the World Bank recognized 1,5% growth that year. Industrial production and agriculture in general are growing rapidly. The alarmists are bad. We will not give up the Kuril Islands. They are not being strengthened for that. New weapons are being delivered. New lines are being introduced at Zvezdochka, and they will most likely start building large ships this year. And next they will introduce docks where it will be possible to build aircraft carriers. Kind of like the largest dock in Russia. Some scribblers here remind us of a block - they tore us to shreds. We only began to focus on a large scale. We were besieged after the Crimea, detained. But not for long. We ourselves can do everything. And we will do it. And wow about the internal "revolutions" generally keep quiet - I will personally strangle "onizhedeti". Revolution does not shine for them
  2. Teberii
    Teberii April 22 2016 06: 19
    0
    So the Japanese have become more active. And we are filled with everything about friendship.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 22 2016 06: 38
    +5
    Will Japan have the strength to seize the southern or even all of the Kuril Islands and even Sakhalin? Maybe enough.
    Strange doubts of the author! request
    NEVER be Japanese on OUR islands. NEVER!!! And do not sort out the options, will they be there or not.
    Definitely NO, and close this question once and for all! angry
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan April 22 2016 08: 17
      -4
      The author appreciated the strength that we have border control and a motorized rifle division in the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin, and the population of Japan is 139 million, almost like in Russia ... And their economy is one of the strongest in the world and the technology is quite advanced ... So that they have much more resources and people than we have in that direction, if they had not been for our aviation and nuclear weapons for a long time ... And what will happen tomorrow no one knows for sure ... If the capture of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands will be very fast our hostages will remain hostage, we will not be able to use either nuclear weapons or aviation in full ... So the threat of a Japanese invasion is very, very real ...
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 22 2016 09: 09
        +16
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        we will not be able to use either nuclear weapons or aviation in full ...

        And what prevents to strike at the territory of Japan itself? So that they understand that the Kuril plus, but minus Tokyo is a disadvantageous arithmetic?
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 22 2016 09: 20
          +6
          Quote: Spade
          And what prevents to strike at the territory of Japan itself? So that they understand that the Kuril plus, but minus Tokyo is a disadvantageous arithmetic?

          hi
          They understand this very well. Their only hope is that it will be possible, in some way to neutralize our capabilities to do this, it is not for nothing that Japan is now making such noise about Korean missiles and in every possible way is promoting the idea of ​​deploying a "global missile defense" on Korean territory and on its territory.
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 April 22 2016 12: 15
          +1
          It is a pity that only one plus of "arithmetic" can be supplied.
      2. Forest
        Forest April 22 2016 09: 42
        +2
        The population of Japan is 126 million, do not embellish. Civil technology differs from military technology, so the weapons of the Japanese (with the exception of the most powerful fleet) are outdated.
      3. kitamo
        kitamo April 22 2016 12: 02
        +1
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        If the capture of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands is very quick, our population will remain hostage, we will not be able to use either nuclear weapons or aviation in full ... So the threat of the Japanese invasion is very, very real ...


        there, in an article, something was said about 139 million of the Japanese population ... Do you not think that in this situation they will also be hostages at the sight of our nuclear weapons?
        1. Waltasar
          Waltasar April 22 2016 12: 22
          +2
          Japan, an island state that is unable to live long without external relations, will die of starvation (I don’t remember the exact numbers, but I read somewhere that there’s not enough internal reserves for very long).
          The conclusion is that they will attack someone only with the full support of their mainland master.
        2. Ardein
          Ardein April 22 2016 13: 20
          +1
          That's because everyone grabbed the nuclear weapons ...
          But nothing that they live in an earthquake-prone place? It’s not even necessary to enter the territory there - it’s enough to rumble in the fault near their shores and wash them off. That's just our Sakhalin will get - a fault along the entire Pacific Ocean is.
          As it was said in one old fairy tale: "First you, and then us - the Earth is round! ...". The tale is just about the conduct of high-tech military operations;)
          http://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/42058/
      4. Altona
        Altona April 22 2016 14: 51
        +2
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        The author appreciated the strengths that we have border control and a motorized rifle division in the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin, and the population of Japan is 139 million, almost like in Russia ... And their economy is one of the strongest in the world and the technology is quite advanced ...

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        Can the power of the Japanese economy stop the flying Voevoda? I doubt it.
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 April 22 2016 12: 13
      0
      I support, and this is not urapatriotism, it is the truth of life, and the Yapis understand this.
  4. inkass_98
    inkass_98 April 22 2016 06: 47
    +5
    Igor, you will already decide with whom Japan is going to fight - Russia, China or North Korea. And then somehow your priorities from article to article scatter like Popandopulo - "in different directions." On two fronts, even with all the help of the States, they will not be able to fight, and after "victory" over any of the opponents you are considering, the Japanese for a very long time (years) will lick the wounds inflicted not so much on the army as on the economy of the island state, which is almost completely dependent on supplies from outside.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag April 22 2016 07: 28
      0
      [quote = inkass_98] Russia, China or the DPRK [/ quot]
      I believe the main goal is China
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan April 22 2016 08: 24
        -3
        In China, only officially 1 of the population versus 500 in Japan, a strong army and a powerful economy ... The meaning of Japan to build landing ships to fight China ?! What are they going to attack China? As far as I know in Japan, public debt has already crossed over 000% of GDP, it’s not the best time to invest heavily in offensive weapons ... Unless it is an urgent need justified by a very real war and in the near future ... And so against China the Japanese would develop defensive armaments ... But to quickly capture the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin - yes, they can and it is very real, and at the same time no one from the world community will even object, on the contrary they will only be happy ... In any case, without attention can not be left!
        1. jktu66
          jktu66 April 22 2016 20: 24
          +2
          The Chinese are not warriors, Japanese warriors
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 April 22 2016 23: 19
          0
          Yes, not 139 million in Japan, but 127 million. And the PRC officially has not 1,5 billion, but 1 billion 367 million.
        3. Greenwood
          Greenwood April 23 2016 14: 20
          +1
          The Chinese have not won a single war. Especially the Japanese. And the greater chillennost of the population has never helped them. Do you really think that something has changed now? The only advantage of the Chinese is nuclear weapons. But the lack of such in Japan is a consequence of the post-war ban, and not the backwardness of industry. They want, create in record time and overtake the Chinese.
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 22 2016 09: 21
      +1
      Quote: inkass_98
      Igor, you’ve already decided who Japan is going to fight with - Russia, China or the DPRK.

      For the time being, Japan itself cannot fight, so it will fight with any of these countries only at the direction of the United States and in one connection with them.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 22 2016 07: 40
    +3
    Will Japan have the strength to seize the southern or even all of the Kuril Islands and even Sakhalin? Maybe enough.

    Does the author really assume such a turn of events? Will not be enough. And first of all, there isn’t enough courage to attack the territory of Russia whoever stands behind Japan.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan April 22 2016 08: 28
      -1
      And if they are in a coalition, well, as always these devils are fighting against Russia ... From the West, the EU is led by terrorists and Turkey, Asia - Ishil, the Taliban, China will not refuse an advantageous piece, if offered , well, the Japanese in the Kuril Islands, Sakhalin, and maybe parts of the mainland ... The population in Japan is almost like in Russia, 139 million people ... The Japanese are brave wars and can win, and now their army is one of the most modern in the world. .. The Japanese threat is very real and refers to this without due attention - it will turn into a tragedy for us !!!
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 22 2016 08: 39
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Enough is enough. And first of all, there isn’t enough courage to attack the territory of Russia

      By the way, according to the same lemongrasses, the Japanese are very similar to us, so keep quiet about courage, especially since 15-20 years ago imperial societies resumed their activity in Japan (by and large - revanchists) and the ideology is directed only against the Russian Federation .. .
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 April 22 2016 09: 03
        +2
        so about courage shut up

        You can be silent. Just how do you imagine Japan's attack on Russia. In 41, they did not attack when the Germans actively attacked, and did not attack in subsequent years. They did a lot of dirty tricks on the border, but did not dare to attack. And now they will go to war against a nuclear power over the so-called "northern territories"?
  6. Egoza
    Egoza April 22 2016 07: 58
    +3
    Well, where is Japan climbing with its hopes for the army? how many earthquakes, how many active volcanoes, it would be better if Greece bought a couple of islands for timely evacuation.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan April 22 2016 08: 29
      -2
      So they were going to Russia to evacuate ... Only they will not ask us on the campaign ...
  7. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 22 2016 08: 02
    0
    The fact is that Japan is next to the nuclear powers: Russia, China, North Korea ...
    And the attempt of an armed, direct attack on any of these countries may end in disastrousness for Japan.
    Although the state of our Pacific Fleet is really deplorable ...
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 April 22 2016 12: 19
      0
      An attack on any of the nuclear powers is for Yapis akin to hara-kiri. It’s just that their population remains will have nowhere to live.
  8. Leto
    Leto April 22 2016 08: 11
    +3
    Will Japan have the strength to seize the southern or even all of the Kuril Islands and even Sakhalin? Maybe enough. But it's not that. If someone thinks that this will be a classic attack in the style of the 20th century, then he is cruelly mistaken. Modern wars are fought differently - the enemy is exhausted in various conflicts and internal squabbles, after which they come for a prize, almost without resistance.

    Another nonsense. If the Japanese would like to take control of the disputed islands by force or exhaustion in something, then they would have already done this already in the 90s. Japan was at the peak of power, money was rampant, beside the collapsing impoverished Russia mired in a war in the Caucasus, which prevented Yeltsin from selling his money to the money team who needed money like air? Nothing, they would give up the islands as before they gave the Chinese much larger territories for FREE. Who in the country would revolt and raise a rebellion? No one, they shawled the execution of the parliament, stormed Grozny, destroyed the economy, and the transfer of the islands even more so. In this regard, the thesis put forward in the article is absurd from the beginning.
    1. godofwar6699
      godofwar6699 April 22 2016 11: 41
      +1
      AAV SUP ......
      1. the villain
        the villain April 22 2016 18: 23
        +1

        A remarkable car, it’s difficult to miss on it, if that, and if you dig a caponier under it ... repeat
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 22 2016 23: 22
      0
      What territories, larger in area than the South Kuril Islands, we gave to the Chinese? Can you give the facts?
  9. surrozh
    surrozh April 22 2016 08: 14
    0
    Is Hiroshima from Nagasaki not enough for them? Or the second world? From conventional missiles they will rake in full, a well-fed country with a developed economy, it is better for them to wash a couple of new islands than to look for exciting adventures.
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 22 2016 09: 22
      +1
      Quote: surozh
      they are better off washing up a couple of new islands than looking for exciting adventures.

      And the samurai spirit? He is just looking for these adventures.
  10. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 22 2016 08: 32
    +1
    Japan is an island country.
    Therefore, it is not surprising that they are developing a technique for landing. But Russia in this region needs to keep an eye out.
    And not just because of Japan ...
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 22 2016 09: 22
    0
    Bullshit, what the Kuril Islands with the current technology, what a landing. Let California, by the way, be our former land who does not know - the present Fort Ross was founded by Russians in 1812 and was controlled by our A.A. Baranov, who was the first ruler of Russian settlements in America.
  12. svp67
    svp67 April 22 2016 09: 27
    +3
    Does this mean that the invasion makes sense to wait tomorrow? No, it doesn’t.
    Why does this mean? The situation in the world can change dramatically. As soon as we get bogged down in a war with Turkey or Ukraine, receive non-ambiguous "advice" from the United States about not using nuclear forces in these local wars, and here it is, then tomorrow ...
    Will Japan have the strength to seize the southern or even all of the Kuril Islands and even Sakhalin? Maybe enough
    Enough is enough. The question is whether it will bring HAPPINESS to Japan. After all, how sad it will be for their soldiers to look at the "nuclear mushrooms" rising over Japan from the captured islands. Until they are absolutely sure that they will be able to neutralize our strategic forces, there will be no attack.
  13. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 22 2016 10: 10
    +2
    Sooner or later, Japan will take over new territories

    The direction of the strike will depend on the economic and political situation of countries and potential opponents.
    Nobody will attack a strong Russia, knowing that in the event of aggression, Tokyo will go under water.
    But on the weakened and fragmented - always welcome.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 April 22 2016 12: 21
      +1
      With any attack on Russia, Tokyo will go under water.
  14. Demeter
    Demeter April 22 2016 11: 28
    0
    If Hiroshima and Nagasaki don't fight enough for these not normal warriors, their compact living allows them to destroy this hornet’s swarm with several missiles ...
  15. sakhalin65
    sakhalin65 April 22 2016 17: 48
    +1
    Interestingly, how many of those who wrote were on Sakhalin-Kuril Islands?, Why it seems to me that there are no such
  16. sakhalin65
    sakhalin65 April 22 2016 18: 09
    +3
    If Japan comes to the Kuril Islands, it’s absolutely peaceful through cultural, other NGOs, through the quiet implementation of its values, through a visa-free exchange of tourists, through Soya, for me to go to Japan for you from Moscow to St. Petersburg. By the way, this people should not be bold and decisive, but they love American friends there as an inevitable evil (remember Hiroshima from Nagasaki and soldiers from American bases are just as funny)
  17. Denimax
    Denimax April 22 2016 18: 18
    0
    To rock the Japanese somewhere is very dangerous for themselves. A small island state and very heavily populated, and perverted to some extent. But there is an order (as in ordinary small states). They can only wish to be careful in their ambitions.
  18. gangut
    gangut April 22 2016 20: 27
    0
    Gentlemen, what are you in your mind, now is not the year 1900, if Putin said that we do not need bases in the world, we can strike where we need it, so now we are not the enemy at all. Just what they think there doesn’t mean that the scenario of the Russo-Japanese war is feasible now, we are no longer the tea at the beginning of the 20th century. And drowning the islands is not a problem, even if the Pacific coast of the USA to drown is not a problem
  19. andy.v.lee
    andy.v.lee April 22 2016 21: 13
    0
    Already 30 cars! "A la canned herring"!
  20. Verdun
    Verdun April 22 2016 21: 37
    0
    Japanese ronin has found a new daimyo, and for a long time. I would have done seppuku. But today, the trend is another bushido. What other honor? Come on, money!
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  22. Gmooa
    Gmooa April 24 2016 01: 36
    +1
    Such a feeling, in the event of a war, but the feeling that everything is going to this ... The attack will be immediately from all sides ... As if the pieces were placed on the board ... And then all at once ....
    1. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest April 24 2016 10: 17
      +1
      Quote: Gmooa
      Such a feeling, in the event of a war, but the feeling that everything is going to this ... The attack will be immediately from all sides ... As if the pieces were placed on the board ... And then all at once ....

      And indeed it is. We now urgently need to look for allies, and it is military allies - yes more ... Otherwise - the main blows - from the west and from the east, we can not withstand. One is not a warrior in the field.