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Active protection of armored vehicles or extra seven tons

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Active protection of armored vehicles or extra seven tons

Iveco DV Light Multirole Vehicle armored vehicle equipped with ADS active protection system. Systems of this type protect light vehicles from cumulative projectiles and at the same time produce an unexpected side effect - raise the morale of soldiers who become more effective in carrying out their tasks


To date, very few countries have adopted active protection complexes. This is mainly due to legal problems and public perception of possible indirect losses. Although reducing indirect casualties remains one of the main concerns of many military structures, they will never disappear, especially in asymmetrical warfare, in which the enemy dissolves among the local population in order to use any civilian casualties as food for media propaganda.

Counter-propaganda is perhaps the first enemy of active defense complexes (KAZ), an enemy that does not give Western armies the right to provide their soldiers - especially those who are sitting in light armored vehicles - with significantly higher levels of protection.

While grenade-type systems can be a cause of justifiable concern, at least when used in an asymmetric scenario, the criticism of the systems used on lightweight machines is less well understood. These systems are mainly based on explosive modules, which in most cases neutralize the attacking warhead, but are potentially considered to be the cause of major indirect losses.

When it comes to neutralizing threats, each theoretical calculation is based on statistics - a science in which 100% refers only to the ideal world. More specifically, however, the detonation of the shaped charge on the armor plate undoubtedly also creates a dense cloud of fragments outside the car, especially when ceramic armor is involved. Ironically, the lethal distance determined by flying fragments of ceramic armor can be quite comparable to the lethal distance determined by the impact of the attacking projectile on the explosive module. The problem here is the lack of a solid rule. In some cases, a reactive anti-tank grenade that works perfectly, in other words, “making its hole” in the armor, can generate a small lethal “bubble”. On the other hand, in many cases, this “bubble” will increase significantly, if a warhead striking a machine carries a greater explosive charge, and if the ammunition load of this machine detonates, the lethal distance will increase proportionally, according to the most underestimated estimates to 10 meters along the radius. Besides, this is not a rare event. So, is it preferable for Western society to have more dead and wounded (including their own soldiers) or the same number of indirect losses, but inflicted by the enemy? In most cases, public opinion (and lawmakers of public opinion) of the West will accuse their own armed forces of not providing their soldiers with adequate protection when too much cargo of 200 will be flown to their homeland.


During the operation “Protective Edge” in the summer of 2014, the KAZ Trophy of the company Rafael credited more than 20 successful hits



KAZ Trophy LV mounted on the Hatehof armored car. In the top photo, close-up of short-range and long-range sensors, it is also worth noting the relatively simple installation of the complex on the machine


Trophy LV active protection complex on MATsh armored car by Oshkosh Defense

Fighting spirit

Some manufacturers of vehicles now indicate that active protection complexes can be a factor in changing the rules of the game, since the psychological state of the crews of vehicles is significantly improved and a feeling of better security appears. As a result, the maneuver becomes more offensive, fast and, as a result, the chances of getting the enemy off guard increase. Reducing the time required to achieve the goal also reduces the time spent in the zone of impact of weapons. This is important even for those armies that conduct defensive operations, since defense, one way or another, entails the interception of the initiative at the right time.

From conversations with system manufacturers it becomes clear that if the grenade launcher protection system seems to be more dangerous than complexes based on dynamic protection units, this assumption basically comes from the fact that it moves the threat interception point from the car by tens of meters. However, according to the available data, the “dangerous cloud” created by the grenade complex has a radius of two to four meters, which is undoubtedly less than the lethal radius created by the machine, which explodes when a shaped charge creates secondary detonations. And again, it all comes down to statistics. The same applies to passive RPG protection systems, such as trellis screens. At best, they guarantee protection at the 60-70% level, but according to users of active protection complexes (unlike their manufacturers praising their “100% reliable systems”), the latter have already reached the threshold of successful destruction of threats more than 80% and its further prediction boost

Increasing the levels of protection of the front and sides is of course important, but the need to increase the protection of the bottom of vehicles, including the bottom, has increased to such an extent that active systems are also being developed to protect the underside of the cars. Machine manufacturers are closely following the improvements in this area, as they reduce not only the probability of penetration, but also the height to which the machine flies into the air, which is often the main cause of injuries and injuries during a mine explosion. “A five-ton armored vehicle with a level of protection Level 4b is a dream today, but in about five years it will become a reality,” said the chief designer of one of the well-known companies producing combat vehicles.


At the MSPO exhibition, the BMP model was presented, which showed the main components of the new Polish KAZ (in the photo on the right, the same 8x8 model from above). The program is implemented by the Military Technical Academy in cooperation with industry.

With no doubt

There is one public opinion that definitely will not blame active defense complexes for anything - Israeli. Rafael Trophy’s KAZ was widely used during Operation Protective Edge and, according to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, chalked up “over 20 successful interceptions.” The system has already been tested in combat, but after this operation, Israel began to trust this complex even more and, as a result, the ministry is currently discussing a contract with Rafael to install the KAZ Trophy HV on the Namer infantry fighting vehicle and, possibly, on other vehicles. According to some reports, the Israeli infantry worked in the immediate vicinity of the main combat-equipped KAZ Trophy tanks (MBT). The infantry, in addition, insisted on the presence of tanks in urban scenarios, since the Trophy complex’s enemy fire detection radar allows the transfer of enemy positions to all units through the battle control system. The level of threats in the Gaza Strip was high even for tanks; various sources indicate not only that the Palestinians have numerous RPGs with a tandem warhead, but also Russian Cornet systems and even North Korean anti-tank missiles. The re-emergence of symmetrical military operations in this region cannot be ruled out, and then kinetic threats can come into play. According to representatives of industrial enterprises producing active defense complexes and reservation systems, only KAZ can at the moment break the vicious circle of "increased protection - a significant increase in the weight of the combat vehicle." For example, the mass of additional armor needed to protect the main projections of a modern main battle tank from a 125-mm armor-piercing feathered sub-caliber projectile is estimated at about seven tons.

Polish developments

At the MSPO 2014 exhibition, the Polish Military Technical Academy presented a model of the active protection complex. The theoretical part, apparently, was developed by the Military Institute of Defense Technologies, and the KAZ implements the practical implementation of this consortium, which includes Polski Holding Obronny, PCO and Mesko SA companies. Although the consortium does not specifically cover this system, it is quite obvious that PCO will provide optocouplers sensors, Mesko will develop actuators, while PHO may be a system integrator. When the system reaches technological maturity, it will be transferred to mass production.

The system, which has not yet received the designation, is based on a dual sensor that provides detection and neutralization of threats in order to maximize the probability of damage. The unit with two sensors includes an ultraviolet optocoupler sensor for detecting a jet stream during a missile launch and a CCD video camera, while a short-range radar station selects targets at distances 40, 30 and 20 meters necessary for the correct activation of the striking element. Judging from the pictures presented at the stand of the Military Technical Academy, radar and opto-sensors are also used to classify threats. As for the interception system, it is a double-barreled grenade launcher for firing a fragmentation grenade, which must destroy the attacking anti-tank missiles on approach, and in the long term destroy or destabilize the tank shells. The complex has a “last frontier” in case grenades cannot neutralize a threat or when using short-range weapons, such as an RPG. It is a container with elongated shaped charges that will destroy the target immediately before the strike. According to available information, all developed components were tested separately at different ranges and then in a single system at the test site; there the system demonstrated an efficiency of approximately 80%. Judging by the drawings and the layout, the system should consist of one circular sensor opto-sensor unit mounted on the tower roof, four antennas on the sides of the tower and 10 blocks of dynamic protection, four on the sides and two on the front plate in front of the tower, although one more was presented scheme: eight containers, two on the sides, two in front and two behind. Polish consortium of information regarding the future of this KAZ does not.


Values ​​of the correlation function of a reactive anti-tank grenade, recorded by the radar Polish KAZ



Artis is promoting its Iron Curtain system in the US and abroad after successful tests conducted by BAE Systems

Other systems

After a long process, as a result of which the required level of security was achieved, ADS GmbH has now begun production and supplies to the launch customer of its KAZ Active Defense System. The contract was signed in September 2013, and the company does not provide any more details. The system is based on warning devices that constantly monitor the area around the machine until the threat is detected, issue data to the central processor, which analyzes and evaluates the threat. If the threat is assessed as serious, then the system activates optical-electronic sensors that “inspect” the relevant sector. Next, the system, comparing all the available information, selects the corresponding executive element and activates it at the required time. Executive elements are containers with explosives that create enough energy to neutralize the attacking projectile, usually cumulative. The current version of the system can not fight with kinetic shells, although in the future the system will be able to cope with them, provided that the main armor is enough to withstand the impact of the deflected projectile.



A close-up of the three components of the Airbus D&S Muss system: an infrared silencer at the top, sensor blocks on the sides of the tower and a grenade launcher


ADS (74% owned by Rheinmetall, the remaining 26% from Friedrich-Ulf Deisenroth) was one of the first in Europe to develop an active protection system. In the photo KAZ installed on the cab of the truck MAN

The company offers its ADS system in two configurations. The first, which received the designation CAB, protects the cabins of light vehicles and trucks from RPG-type weapons. The second under the designation HAT is designed for installation on the hull and turret; it provides all-round protection on 360 ° against anti-tank guided and unguided missiles. According to a representative from ADS GmbH, the solution delivered to the launch customer "is an improved integrated concept that cannot yet be disclosed." This improved version seems to be designed for medium and heavy machines, as light machines provide less room for improvement. Recently, one or two more customers have appeared, which are scheduled to begin delivery in 2016. The company received a certificate for its system in several countries that wished to carry out this procedure. The ADS system allows you to integrate with other subsystems of the machine. For example, data from ADS system sensors allow activating optical-electronic countermeasure complexes, including smoke grenade launchers, or directing remotely controlled combat modules at targets.

Artis from the United States is actively promoting its KAZ Iron Curtain, which intercepts such threats as RPGs a few inches from the car. The Iron Curtain complex uses two independent sensors, an optical and radar, high-performance computing unit that controls anti-skids in order to minimize the frequency of false alarms and maximize the efficiency and reliability of the system. The radar for this complex was developed by the American company L-3 Mustang Technology. The KAZ Iron Curtain passed a two-year safety test, after which the Combined Arms Safety Council approved its configuration. Then, BAE Systems, as a demonstration sample, installed this system on a combat vehicle for state tests, which were very successful. According to Artis, interest in the KAZ Iron Curtain is growing in many countries and the countries of the Middle East and Northern Europe are paying special attention to it.

COEP

Currently, the German Bundeswehr has chosen an optical-electronic countermeasures complex (KOEP) to be installed on its new Puma infantry fighting vehicles. The complex, developed by Airbus Defense & Space, received the designation Muss (Multifunctional Self-Protection System - multifunctional self-protection system). It includes two different types of actuators and four hybrid sensor heads, designated MSH. Sensor units, which include missile attack and laser warning sensors, are installed on the four sides of the Puma tower. The first actuator, the MJH infrared jammer, mounted on the turret roof, generates false infrared signals so that infrared-guided anti-tank missiles “get confused” as the targeting unit “sees” the missile in the wrong place and generates incorrect guidance signals. The second actuator is the RiWA smoke screen; four-tube launchers of this system are installed on the sides of the Puma BMP turret.

The MSH missile warning device operates in the ultraviolet spectrum insensitive to sunlight. It determines the ultraviolet component of the rocket's jet stream, while the laser detector searches for radiation from laser-guided systems. When a potential threat is detected, data on it is issued to the central processing unit (MCE), which processes and provides information to the appropriate subsystem. It can go to the electronic unit MJH, MSH, or the electronic unit RiWA, MCE, or both. Ultimately, either infrared pulses are generated, or grenades of a multispectral smoke screen are launched. These smoke grenades were developed by BuckNeue Technologien, now part of Rheinmetall Waffe Munition. They allow you to close the car from the guidance systems of most missiles operating in the visible and infrared spectra. Naturally, opto-electronic countermeasure systems are useless in the case of unguided weapons, such as RPGs.

Mine Protection

Sometimes decisions are based on a combination of two different systems. Two systems can be cited as an example, the purpose of which is to minimize the impact of an explosion under the bottom: VGAM (Vehicle Global Acceleration Mitigation) developed by the British company Advanced Blast & Ballistic Systems (ABBS) and the Zero Shock System developed by the German Drehtainer. The first system does not allow the car to leave the ground, and the second minimizes the effect on passengers of acceleration and bottom deformation.

It so happened that these two companies met at the last Eurosatory exhibition and, after a brief discussion, concluded a cooperation agreement in 2014 in August, since the two systems complement each other perfectly. The Zero Schock system works at the initial moment of the explosion, from less than 0,5 milliseconds to 5-10 milliseconds, while the VGAM system starts to work effectively when the car actually seeks to “take off”, approximately 10 milliseconds after the explosion.

Drehtainer's Zero Shock system is based on a second bottom that is suspended on steel cables inside a vehicle or security module; the second bottom is placed in 200 mm from the armored bottom, which is quite enough to eliminate the influence of the deformation of the main bottom on it. In the event of an explosion, the sensors activate ejectors as in an airbag, which have a reaction time of less than 0,4 milliseconds, after which the bottom “floats” for a sufficient time to significantly reduce accelerations. According to the company Drehtainer, the forces acting on the bottom make up only 20% of the forces allowed by the NATO standards STANAG, which allows, therefore, not only to avoid injuries, but also to install the seats directly on the bottom itself, rather than hanging them to the walls. The system has been tested in Germany, Great Britain and Canadian military centers; The Netherlands tested the M113 armored personnel carrier, equipped with a second bottom, undermining an anti-tank mine under it.

After the ABBS system has worked, the VGAM system starts to work, based on innovative high-speed jet engines that seek to reduce the acceleration of the machine upwards. These small jet engines are so powerful that they can create a very large impulse during those same 20-30 milliseconds, when most of the mine explosions create lift forces. According to ABBS, a single VGAM engine can develop a 50000 kg thrust force in the 20-30 interval in milliseconds. Thus, four of these engines, installed on a light machine, at the right time create forces opposing 200 tons. In order to avoid bottom deformation, ABBS has developed a VAFS (Vehicle Armored Floor Stabilization) system that reduces or eliminates bottom deformation. Due to the combination of the two systems, both companies must overcome the weaknesses of their products.


The graph shows the mutually reinforcing effect of the two systems Zero Schock and AMPS (aka VGAM), limiting the effects of a mine under the bottom


Footage of the animated presentation of the work of the system ABDS from the company Tencate. ABDS prevents the vehicle from accelerating upwards as shown on the frame on the right. Despite the fact that the M-113 BTR on the left is no longer to be seen the next day, its crew on the other hand has good chances for survival

Currently, the Drehtainer Zero Shock system is already in service in the Swiss army, and soon it will go into service with the German Bundeswehr; In addition, several European armored vehicle manufacturers are testing this system. ABBS's AMPS system is currently undergoing extensive testing and will be available for testing on customers' machines in 2016.

Tencate Advanced Armor developed an active anti-explosion protection system ABDS (Active Blast Defense System) in cooperation with the Danish company ABDS A / S. Development began in 2010, and in March 2011, the first tests were conducted. At the end of 2011, Tencate acquired all ABDS A / S shares, giving birth to TenCate Active Protection ApS.

After the signing of a joint cooperation agreement, the acceptance tests within the framework of a multi-year program the company conducts research projects with the US Command. They pass "in a light car from the presence of the American army." The company is very reluctant to share information about the principles of its system. It is only known that ABDS is based on two moving masses, which are accelerated downward in order to reduce vehicle acceleration upwards, and, as a result, to reduce the amount of blast energy transmitted to passengers. The system is installed under the bottom of the machine and includes a specially created system for launching and activating TAS (Trigger and Activation System). It issues stable, safe, high-speed automatic commands to activate proprietary countermeasures and an accurate programmable structural and biomechanical response mode. An extensive test series was conducted, including tests on the M15 113-ton BTR. According to TenCate, the ABDS system can increase mine protection up to the 5 and 6 Levels; It can be installed on a wide range of light, medium and heavy platforms.

In Europe, Germany and the Netherlands started cooperation with TenCate, which is also in talks with other countries that want to test its ABDS system on their machines.



Animated presentation of the work of the system ABDS from the company Tencate

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  1. bad
    bad April 21 2016 06: 12
    +7
    very extensive article, and moreover, relevant to the author respect for the work .. hi
    1. Malkor
      Malkor April 21 2016 07: 52
      +3
      Statistics is just the science closest to the real, not ideal, world. I understand that the author does not have a higher education, it does not matter, the trouble is that when a person reflects on topics in which he does not understand, the value of his article tends to zero. Every gopher in the field is an agronomist.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 21 2016 08: 15
        +6
        Quote: Malkor
        Statistics is just the science closest to the real, not ideal, world.

        Yah...
        Statistics not only do not reflect the "real world", they can be misleading. For example, personal body armor.
        - There are statistics of personnel defeats collected by the Americans during the recent armed conflicts in which they participated.
        --If you change the principles of personal protection in accordance with these statistics, this can have a beneficial effect on the level of losses in the event of similar conflicts, and it is detrimental if the enemy changes the initial conditions. For example, the active use of artillery.
        1. Malkor
          Malkor April 21 2016 19: 43
          0
          Illiterate can be misled by anything.
          1. according to statistics, we will all die - really from the real
          2. According to statistics from my field of activity, Chinese products are subject to rapid wear and tear, and German products are rarely defective.
          3. according to the statistics I have developed - do not trust the contractor, especially if the contractor is a special construction company, 90 percent of their promises to do something in time is an empty ring.
          And you can go on forever.
          Statistics is the real embodiment of the law of large numbers.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 21 2016 20: 38
            0
            Quote: Malkor
            Statistics is the real embodiment of the law of large numbers.

            Statistics are self-deception. Especially in the military sphere. And especially in the field of protection. Armored objects, personnel, positions ... It does not really matter. For the slightest change in the rules of the game by the enemy, and all these statistics are suitable only for use in the toilet.
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 April 21 2016 22: 15
              +1
              As I understand it in modern combat, you need to stay away from your technology what
              And next to such an armored car that is on the video. It will be necessary to go only for armor.
            2. Malkor
              Malkor April 22 2016 16: 57
              -1
              Reservation of our tanks is based on statistics - therefore it is highly differentiated. If they did not pay attention to statistics, then they would roll up armor into a circular one.
              The statistics are passive, but the conclusions are not educated person can make mistakes.
      2. Aryan
        Aryan April 21 2016 12: 17
        +5
        There is another option:
        Not katazza where there are different ill-educated people with grenades stop
        1. Malkor
          Malkor April 21 2016 19: 44
          0
          According to statistics, falling from the 9th floor is unlikely to survive, and what's not real?
    2. Operator
      Operator April 21 2016 11: 23
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      Join
  2. fest 1973
    fest 1973 April 21 2016 06: 21
    +1
    Interesting, but how are things with similar systems? If anyone is in the know please write!
  3. dFG
    dFG April 21 2016 06: 42
    0
    Quote: fest 1973
    Interesting, but how are things with similar systems? If anyone is in the know please write!

    And we have things like 20 years ago, the same arena and Afghanistan only at exhibitions and in booklets, even now neither one nor the other has been run in Syria. And if 20 years ago, the arena was considered exclusive, now half the world has developments in this area that are close to the series, and for Jews the kaz is generally established in large numbers
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 21 2016 13: 14
      +1
      Quote: dfg
      among Jews, kaz is generally established in large numbers

      Mass is how much?
      1. Come on
        Come on April 21 2016 16: 45
        +3
        The cost of the Jewish KAZ Trophy is about $ 300. Not expensive if you consider the cost of the package DZ Kontakt 5 -250 thousand $, or DZ on Abrams costs 200 thousand $. Repair of a damaged modern tank, or BMPO / BTR will come out more expensive. Then it must be taken into account that a serious mess begins, then if you take into account the saturation of the market with the offers of KAZ systems, the armored vehicles of the NATO countries will be quickly understaffed with KAZ systems. And the more demand, the cheaper these systems will be.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet April 22 2016 19: 00
          0
          Quote: Yeah, well.
          . Repair of a damaged modern tank, or BMPO / BTR will come out more expensive.

          What about the crew? In my opinion, this is the most expensive and there is no way to save here.
    2. ermak.sidorov
      ermak.sidorov April 21 2016 14: 58
      0
      I read at VO that our KAZ had successfully tested tanks on tanks back in Afghanistan. Or are you talking about implementation?
    3. 11 black
      11 black April 22 2016 18: 00
      +1
      Quote: dfg
      And we have things like 20 years ago, the same arena and Afghanistan only at exhibitions and in booklets, even now neither one nor the other has been run in Syria. And if 20 years ago, the arena was considered exclusive, now half the world has developments in this area that are close to the series, and for Jews the kaz is generally established in large numbers

      Where did you get Evan - have you forgotten about Afghanistan on Armata and Kurganets?



      The last picture can be opened and enlarged.
  4. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi April 21 2016 06: 44
    +12
    "Namer" with KAZ has already gone to the troops. The engineering battalions are the first to receive them.
    1. yehat
      yehat April 21 2016 11: 11
      0
      I'm curious, what is the economic basis for the supply of intentions to the troops?
      Doesn’t it turn out to be too expensive due to the weakening of other equally important components of weapons? What is the difference in operating costs for heavy infantry fighting vehicles and lighter ones?
      for example, BMP-2.
      1. gallville
        gallville April 21 2016 12: 17
        +3
        Quote: yehat
        I'm curious, what is the economic basis for the supply of intentions to the troops?

        Well, for example, in America, the life of a military man is insured for half a lemon dollars. In the same Bradley crew of 3 people (without landing). In the name, also 3 people. I didn’t find anything on the Israeli military’s life insurance.
        Quote: yehat
        Doesn’t it turn out to be too expensive due to the weakening of other equally important components of weapons?

        Due to seriality, the cost is reduced. In addition, a small solid fuel element reduces the consumption of resources of nodes and assemblies. TVD itself has solid soils. Which is convenient for using heavy Btt.
        Quote: yehat
        What is the difference in operating costs for heavy infantry fighting vehicles and lighter ones?

        The same as the operation of a tank chassis and other tracked. Those. in terms of operation more expensive.
        Quote: yehat
        for example, BMP-2.

        You would also suggest comparing with a wagon and a horse. If you compare it with the Bradley BMP of the latest modifications. Since the intent, although it bears the name of the armored personnel carrier, it is in battle formations at the place of the BMP.
        In my opinion, the costs will slightly differ cheaper in the direction of Bradley. Why it is insignificant - because unification and facilitation of service are intent and mercenary. With the traditional saturation of the units of the Tsakhal with tanks in the proportion of 1 tank to 1 infantry division.
        1. Operator
          Operator April 21 2016 13: 02
          -1
          The first time in three years I have been reading an adequate text from Ukraine (judging by the flag).
          Has the light loomed at the end of the tunnel? laughing
          1. gallville
            gallville April 21 2016 15: 44
            +4
            I try to refrain from commenting on this resource (I'm thinking not the only one). Given the focus of the site on Russian military products. Any post under the Ukrainian flag not written in the style of Uri-patriots of the Russian Federation is regarded as ukronacism.
            And the news is more neutral as this unfortunately is not enough on the resource. And even here, posts under the Ukrainian flag cause some sarcasm.
            Quote: Operator
            Has the light loomed at the end of the tunnel?

            Given the active policy of Ukrainophobia on the Internet, how can we expect a large number of adequate comments? Any action causes a reaction.
            1. yehat
              yehat April 21 2016 17: 42
              +2
              Thanks for the answer

              ps
              the whole policy of ukrophobia comes from real news from Ukraine. Most look like insanity, stupidity, unprovoked cruelty, etc. 2% of the population do this news, but they do it without interference from others and based on their actions, an attitude towards Ukraine and not only in Russia is built.
              during perestroika, they lied so much that only schoolchildren believe in propaganda.
              1. gallville
                gallville April 21 2016 17: 52
                0
                Quote: yehat
                the whole policy of ukrophobia comes from real news from Ukraine.

                Not so long ago I was in the territory of the Russian Federation with relatives. So the news on TV literally corresponds to what is shown in Ukraine. With only one difference, the words of the DPR, the Russian Federation and Ukraine stand in place of each other.
                Therefore, it seems to me that the truth is somewhere in between.
                Quote: yehat
                2% of the population do this news, but they do it without interference from others and based on their actions, an attitude towards Ukraine and not only in Russia is built.

                These are all elements of geopolitics. In the Russian Federation, the entire power of the media and financial resources is also concentrated in the hands of the same number of% of people.
                So we draw conclusions.
    2. godofwar6699
      godofwar6699 April 22 2016 12: 21
      0
      As it stands, the Army will reportedly test four such systems in Stryker vehicles and M1A2 tanks while the Marines will modify some of their own M1A1 tanks to mount the Trophy system.
  5. Haway_Nordik
    Haway_Nordik April 21 2016 06: 49
    +2
    Extremely popular systems in warring armies. Very interesting Zero Shock system.
    PS With a false positive, the combat vehicle will fly off into the stratosphere along with the crew’s souls?))
    1. Throw
      Throw April 21 2016 07: 14
      0
      On the contrary, it will drive the crew into the grave in the literal sense of the word, into the ground. The car will go as a monument am
      1. Haway_Nordik
        Haway_Nordik April 21 2016 08: 06
        0
        Oh yes. It’s convenient to eat - the crew is in the ground, the car is like a coffin, the roof of the car is like a tombstone)) the grave is ready
      2. Haway_Nordik
        Haway_Nordik April 21 2016 08: 06
        0
        Oh yes. It’s convenient to eat - the crew is in the ground, the car is like a coffin, the roof of the car is like a tombstone)) the grave is ready
  6. Throw
    Throw April 21 2016 07: 19
    0
    The "Muss" system - did the Germans invent the "Curtain" or what? what
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 21 2016 07: 47
      +5
      "Curtain" to "Muss", as to Beijing in reverse.

      First of all, thanks to UV sensors.
  7. Adik89
    Adik89 April 21 2016 07: 45
    +1
    Better 1 saved tanker's life than all 7 extra tons.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 21 2016 10: 02
      +8
      By the way, in AOI, KOEP systems are put on equipment together with KAZ. They are perfectly combined and do not interfere with each other.
      1. MAG
        MAG April 21 2016 17: 13
        0
        The question was about onboard mines with a strike core tests were? and if so, what are the results?
        1. Come on
          Come on April 21 2016 21: 18
          0
          The shock core flies faster than the KS, and the KS so far, like the KAZ system, cannot intercept. Against impact cores, good passive armor is needed.
        2. Operator
          Operator April 21 2016 21: 32
          -2
          The impact core has a speed from 2 to 4 km / s (depending on the distance to the target), armor-piercing subcaliber projectile - 1,8 km / s, cumulative projectile - 0,9 km / s.
          The only KAZ that is now intercepting a cumulative projectile is the Afghanit.
          BPS and UY so far no one can intercept.
          1. Come on
            Come on April 21 2016 22: 31
            +2
            The only KAZ test which has not yet seen, neither video nor photo, from everyone else, is Afganit. Let's talk about Afghanit when we see the video of the tests. And even you bent about "the only one who can intercept a cumulative projectile." Kumukiativny tank? Kaz Trophy and the Iron Fist seem to be able to, like all the new already operating KAZ. Earlier KAZ like Drozd and Arena could reach 600m / s. like to do interception. The Germans declare the possibility of intercepting all the available shells and missiles that are in service with the countries of the world, up to 2000 m / s. Moreover, the first AMAP ADS packages (this is not only KAZ, there is also armor and much more) will be offered in series and will be monitored on the Singapore Leo2A4Revolution.
  8. tchoni
    tchoni April 21 2016 08: 30
    0
    Yes ... Active protection systems are very relevant, especially for light vehicles. However, it seems to me that they will not succeed in displacing armor protection as the main means of ensuring the survivability of equipment in battle.
  9. pimen
    pimen April 21 2016 09: 05
    -4
    anti-mine "kaz" for light vehicles - bullshit. Medium, it brings to the level of heavy, and heavy and will do without it
  10. Forest
    Forest April 21 2016 09: 31
    +1
    Our army would be on the KAZ tanks.
  11. Operator
    Operator April 21 2016 09: 54
    -1
    "ABDS is based on two moving masses that accelerate downward in order to reduce the vehicle's upward acceleration and, as a consequence, reduce the amount of energy transmitted from the explosion to passengers."

    In my opinion, everything should be exactly the opposite: the moving masses should accelerate upward (that is, shoot back) so that the acceleration of the vehicle itself decreases upward - the principle of jet propulsion.
    1. pimen
      pimen April 21 2016 10: 07
      0
      probably refers to the inner casing relative to the outer (well, or seats on high racks)
      1. Operator
        Operator April 21 2016 10: 16
        -1
        The article also describes approximately such a system - the installation of the suspended floor of the airborne compartment of the BMP on a cable suspension, which is chopped at the moment of undermining, and the floor freely falls from a height of 200 mm, excluding the contact of the legs of the paratroopers with the deformed bottom of the armored corps of the BMP.

        But at the same time, the floor is not accelerating.
        1. pimen
          pimen April 21 2016 10: 44
          0
          yes it figs you will understand from these descriptions, but in fact, it should be so. A "free" floor can make sense in the gap between itself and the deformable bottom. And, in general, in the order of delirium, in their place I would have studied the possibility of "organizing" a directed (narrow) oncoming explosion to the center, "throwing" the blast wave to the sides
    2. yehat
      yehat April 21 2016 11: 08
      0
      this is not the principle of jet propulsion, it is the principle of conservation of momentum
      so that the crew does not receive too much momentum, it must be transmitted to some crap, which is thrown out at high speed.
      But the problem is that in synchronization with the explosion this is unlikely to happen, and therefore the action of the impulse
      the crew will have time to test.
  12. Operator
    Operator April 21 2016 10: 30
    0
    All KAZ / SAZ, adopted for service and presented in pilot designs, do not meet the requirements for the protection of armored vehicles.

    SAZ "Trophy" can only intercept RPGs and subsonic ATGMs, flying in a horizontal plane at an angle of no more than 40 degrees to the horizon. Above, there is a funnel-shaped dead zone with an opening angle of 100 degrees. This makes it possible to hit the tank with a variety of roof-piercing elements and anti-tank missiles with a hinged flight path.

    KAZ "Arena" provides all-aspect protection, but can only intercept RPGs and subsonic ATGMs.

    KAZ "Afganit" has a more expanded range of intercepted ammunition, including supersonic ATGM and cumulative artillery shells. But its protection zone with the existing installation on the Armata tank is limited to a 60-degree sector in the frontal plane of the tower. From the sides, from the top and from the rear, "Afghanit" does not protect the T-14.

    So, a universal solution for KAZ / SAZ remains to be found.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 21 2016 11: 12
      -6
      On Armata most likely they already found in the form of an electronic warfare system similar to Mercury - destroying RPG and ATGM fuses on approaching the tank - cheaply and angrily.
      1. Operator
        Operator April 21 2016 11: 19
        +3
        If there were such electronic warfare in nature, there would be no KAZ.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 21 2016 15: 22
          -1
          EW Mercury is - it destroys programmable fuses and most likely the systems acting on the piezoelectric elements of RPG grenades are already created in our country too - but all this is secret.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 21 2016 17: 46
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            EW Mercury is - it destroys programmable fuses

            She's fooling radio fuses. Well, jamming the connection. True, worse than specialized tools. Therefore, it has no effect on electronics.
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      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 22 2016 19: 08
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        On Armata most likely they already found in the form of an electronic warfare system similar to Mercury - destroying RPG and ATGM fuses on approaching the tank - cheaply and angrily

        How can electronic warfare affect mechanical fuses in which there is no electronics ??? request
    2. would
      would April 21 2016 13: 06
      -2
      KAZ "Afganit" has a more expanded range of intercepted ammunition, including supersonic ATGM and cumulative artillery shells. But its protection zone with the existing installation on the Armata tank is limited to a 60-degree sector in the frontal plane of the tower. From the sides, from the top and from the rear, "Afghanit" does not protect the T-14.


      Serious ignorance is immediately evident. And from the sides and from the rear "Afghanit" protects the tank, the upper hemisphere is protected by automatic release of a smoke screen impenetrable in all ranges, which prevents the "roof-fighters" from targeting.
    3. Come on
      Come on April 21 2016 17: 05
      +1
      Strange, but Trophy claims that all the same, all-perspective drag. Although if there is an angle from a cent in the upper hemisphere that is not covered, one can only fear the grenades from the upper floors of the buildings. At the same time, the arrow will have to pop out of the window, which is unsafe for him. And all the same, do not tell, but the Jews have great respect for their KAZ installed and tested in practice, in real combat conditions. It turns out that their tanks now only have to be afraid of the CS of other tanks, and if you take into account how much passive armor the Jews have advanced and thought out, and not a single potential enemy has tanks with shells penetrating more than 800mm (The most modern Mango with T-72), then it’s not enough who can stop the armored fist of the Tsahal. In the coming years, 10 KAZ will stand on all existing tanks of the NATO armies and their allies, then do not go to the grandmother. Moreover, KAZ systems have much to grow and improve, both in terms of reliability and in terms of increasing the speed of intercepted shells, up to sub-caliber, with speeds up to 2000m / s. And this, in turn, will push forward the long-awaited revolution in the development of tanks, that is, reducing the weight of passive armor and, in general, vehicles, increasing speed, air transportability, light sailing tanks can even appear.
  13. Verdun
    Verdun April 21 2016 10: 47
    -1
    Quote: Spade
    Statistics is just the science closest to the real, not ideal, world.
    I am afraid that Disraeli would not agree, for he believed that "there are lies, blatant lies and statistics." For tanks that fall under the definition of MBT, all types of protection are needed. And their application in this case causes minimal problems. A few extra tons, if they interfere, then not much. But for light armored vehicles, excess weight is a problem. It seems that the main protection of such equipment is the speed and brains of the crew. In addition, in many countries, the creation of anti-tank guided missiles and shaped-charge projectiles is not a priority. And in front of a conventional subcaliber projectile fired from a cannon, active defense is powerless in most cases.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 21 2016 11: 26
      -2
      As KAZ, chemical lasers with a power of 25 to 50 kilowatts can be used.
      1. Verdun
        Verdun April 21 2016 17: 15
        +1
        And you estimate how much the cooling system of such a laser weighs + the energy source and you will understand everything yourself.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 21 2016 20: 25
          0
          A 600 kilogram maximum and such mini lasers have already been created.
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 21 2016 12: 13
    0
    Soon, armies that do not have AZ systems will not be able to carry out operations with acceptable losses. The development of anti-tank weapons is proceeding rapidly and until a fundamentally new light armor is invented, the only protection is active armor and KAZ. And the next step of the manufacturers of anti-tank missiles is most likely the transition to STELS shells, inconspicuous for the KAZ radar system.
  15. qwaigon
    qwaigon April 21 2016 12: 13
    0
    Why is this afganit not protecting from the sides. The last mortars are just almost perpendicular to the axis of the tank.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 21 2016 15: 25
      0
      Here at the Interpolitech exhibition and find out what kind of mortars are in Almaty - my opinion is that these are not KAZ missiles.
  16. Aviagr
    Aviagr April 21 2016 13: 38
    +1
    Soon, all missiles (including mine) will fall on top of the equipment. You can let out smoke, dust, and abdominal gases as much as you like - you can’t protect such an engine with optics, a barrel, etc. But breaking the tank to atoms does not even need to be done - disabled - already scrap.
  17. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 21 2016 14: 25
    +2
    Ce la vie! We'll have to think very soon: what kind of KAZ to put on the armored vehicles offered "for sale? Otherwise, you won't" sell "! It is still pointless to talk about "Afghanite" .... it will not be exported soon. Remains "Arena"! I think that "Arena" was "pushed into the far corner" in vain! "Opponents" of this KAZ will not forget to mention the shortcomings; but I am convinced that "Arena" has not exhausted the possibilities for improvement (modernization). Moreover, " The arena "can be produced in various versions (configurations) for both heavy armored vehicles and light armored vehicles ... can be installed in the" Barrier "style or in the" Iron Curtain "style, can be used against roof-breakers, can be reduced reaction time.........
  18. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 April 21 2016 17: 24
    0
    In general, KAZ and KOEP are necessary and useful things. For us, as always, greed and "economy" - will come out sideways.
  19. Idiot
    Idiot April 21 2016 17: 54
    -2
    For the armored fist Tsahal, the main thing is to choose the right direction. Seventy years ago, one armored fist was already broken, at the base of the skull ...
  20. TOR2
    TOR2 April 21 2016 22: 04
    0
    Some car manufacturers currently indicate that active defense systems can become a factor changing the rules of the game, since the psychological state of car crews improves significantly and a feeling of better security appears

    For the republic, Lumumbo is quite suitable, but in other cases it turns out the manufacturers offer self-deception. It is on the tank that it will be enough to protect the equipment at the entrance, but on the car (even on a truck) this number will not work.
    Interesting information slipped into the commercial, the system provides protection against improvised explosive devices. Many of the developments that were covered in the article are just suitable for the expeditionary force in Libya.
    1. Operator
      Operator April 21 2016 22: 25
      -1
      They haven’t yet come up with protection from the SBU, since there are 10-100 times more explosives there than in anti-tank mines.
  21. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack April 24 2016 17: 10
    -1
    good review !!!! thanks to the author !!!
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 April 24 2016 17: 13
      +1
      Quote: Volga Cossack
      good review !!!! thanks to the author !!!

      I forgot to add - Hurray !!! When you finally surrender recourse