The questions of the "summer" referendum on the future status of South Ossetia were voiced. VO poll

10 April 2016 - meeting of the President of the Republic of South Ossetia Leonid Tibilov with the delegation of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.

Presidential Press Service Statement South Ossetia:

President Leonid Tibilov received a delegation of the State Duma of the Russian Federation headed by State Duma member Kazbek Taisayev. During the meeting, the head of state told the guests about the work being done towards the implementation of the Treaty of Alliance and Integration with the Russian Federation.

April 10 The 2016 of the year - the meeting of the head of the Republic of South Ossetia Leonid Tibilov with the delegation of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation.

Statement of the press service of the President of the RSO:

President Leonid Tibilov received a delegation of the Council of the Federation of the Russian Federation, Konstantin Kosachev, Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on International Affairs, Alexander Totoonov, Member of the Federation Council Committee on International Affairs, Oleg Kazakovtsev, Committee on Budget and Financial Markets of the Federation Council, Member of the Council of Federation Committee on Federal Structure, Regional Policy, local government and affairs of the North Igor Martynov and Chairman of the Council of the Assembly of Peoples of Russia Svetlana Smirnova.

April 10 2016 - the meeting of the head of the Republic of South Ossetia, Leonid Tibilov, with the delegation of the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania.

April 18 2016 - meeting of the President of the Republic of South Ossetia Leonid Tibilov with Russian investors.

During these meetings, a common question emerged that is related to the plans of the leadership of the Republic of South Ossetia to learn the opinion of citizens regarding their attitude to the possibility (readiness) of the republic to become part of the Russian Federation.

From a statement by Leonid Tibilov during a meeting with representatives of the North Ossetian delegation who had recently visited Tskhinval:

There are legal issues that need to be refined to include South Ossetia in the Russian Federation. In short, the referendum needs legal thought. And we must abide by the law and not expose the political risks of our strategic partner - Russia.

In other words, we are talking about the likely holding of a referendum on the question of further ways of integrating the RSO and the Russian Federation. The very statements of the head of South Ossetia about a possible referendum excited the “partners” in Georgia and caused widespread discussion in Russia.

The other day, information arrived from Tskhinval that a referendum on the possible entry of RSO into Russia on certain rights could take place in a few months - in the summer of this year. This information is shared by the head of the press service of the President of South Ossetia, Ghana Yanovskaya. According to the press secretary of the South Ossetian president, a couple of questions are submitted for referendum as follows (quotes the newspaper "News"):

Do you agree to supplement Article No. 10 of the Constitution?

Do you agree to ask the leadership of Russia to include South Ossetia in the Russian Federation?

Here it is worth touching on the issue of the mentioned article No. 10 of the Constitution of the RSO. The text of this article sounds like this:

The Republic of South Ossetia has the right to enter into an alliance with other states and transfer to the bodies of the union the exercise of part of its powers.

The Presidential Administration of the Republic of South Ossetia recalls that in January 1992, a republic held a referendum, the results of which entitle the leadership of the RSO to appeal to the Russian authorities to accept the RSO as a new subject of the federation.
At the same time, the administration of the RSO head also says that the results of the new referendum do not at all force Russia to accept South Ossetia into its membership literally immediately after the announcement of the results (if the majority say “yes”! ”). Leonid Tibilov says that the results will be the basis for further integration, even if it takes years for the RSO to become part of the Russian Federation.

In general, South Ossetia is fundamentally ready for a referendum, and, probably, the residents of the republic are unlikely to reject the idea of ​​the possibility of the incorporation of the RSO into Russia.

The main question is: how do Russian authorities react to this?

If we take into account that the statements of the head of South Ossetia about the readiness to hold a referendum in the republic are actively heard even after meetings with State Duma deputies and members of the Federation Council, we can assume that the red light is definitely not lit before South Ossetia. But are you ready to light the green, or will the situation be reduced to the level of the flashing yellow? .. In general, the question is: will there be an equally volitional decision on South Ossetia that was demonstrated in Crimea and Sevastopol at that time?

In this regard, it is worth referring to the reaction of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin to a question about the status of the RSO during the recent straight line. And this reaction resulted in the following statement:

We are not considering our relations with South Ossetia in this context.

In other words, the Russian president made it clear that Tskhinval should not expect recognition of South Ossetia as part of the Russian Federation (at least in the near future) as it were.

But ...

At the same time, Putin noted that there was no detailed discussion of this topic with Leonid Tibilov. And, according to the President of the Russian Federation, if the people of South Ossetia want to hold such a referendum, then “we cannot oppose this.” The following addition looked meaningfully:

Nothing holds us back except the interests of the South Ossetian people themselves.

During the direct line, Vladimir Putin said that it is difficult for him to judge the issue substantively, since he does not know the wording of the questions of the upcoming referendum in the RSO. And this wording by the press service of the President of South Ossetia has been published, and therefore the question of recognizing or not recognizing the future plebiscite arises very sharply.

If earlier (after the referendum in the Crimea and Sevastopol) they started talking that recognition of its results by the Russian Federation would become a precedent, more than 2 years passed - no analogies with other territories were known to be fixed. However, after all, the same South Ossetia did not conduct referendums in modern conditions. And now ready to spend. And if Russia ignores the results of the plebiscite, then it is already a precedent to accuse Russia of double standards. And if he doesn’t ignore ... Of course, you don’t need to run ahead - suddenly the 55-thousandth population of the RSO, the overwhelming number of representatives of which already have Russian citizenship, will speak out against joining the Russian Federation ... True, the very possibility of such an outcome looks something base fiction.

There are a lot of issues and pitfalls, but we can definitely talk about something today. Is complete. At least that the very holding of such a referendum is hardly an exclusively South Ossetian decision. If the Russian authorities themselves did not want to make a decisive choice (now or at least in the medium term), then the very same Leonid Tibilov could well have been hinting backstage: they say, Leonid, let's not drive the horses ... But judging by everything, the referendum will take place “in any weather”, and therefore this plebiscite itself can be considered as a strategic move of Russia on the chessboard, on which the game with well-known “partners” is played. Both with those who are eager for the continuation of the campaign to promote NATO to the Russian borders, and with those who have plans to test whether Russia has strong nerves in the Caucasus. Therefore, the very holding of a referendum in the RSO (even without further automatic official recognition of its results) is a warning to the “partners” of Russia's readiness, which is called asymmetrically responding - moreover, in full compliance with international law.

In the meantime, the supreme authorities are considering options for the status of South Ossetia and their attitude to the upcoming referendum, we will conduct a survey among our readers.

Question one:
Are you ready to support the possible entry of South Ossetia into the Russian Federation, if the residents of the RSO itself speak in favor?

Comments

[bad]

I-for! .. who minus that dill Svidomo!

[Voha_krim]

I think so all Crimeans (at least 96,6%) with two hands "YES"!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: bad

who minus that dill Svidomo!

This is the Georgian cons put

[Revolver]

And you would be lustrating their type, i.e. shed light. With details - nickname, title, country, from which day zaregan. The country must know its heroes. And not mine either.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Nagan

. With details - nickname, title, country, from which day zaregan. The country must know its heroes. And not mine either.

You can’t look here. The vote is secret! Democracy her mother

[Lelek]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Democracy her mother

Democracy is good. As the demos YOR will vote, then so be it, without looking back, no squeals and threats. But in the wording of the question of the referendum (IMHO) it is necessary to add the phrase "reunification of the Ossetian people of SO and South Ossetia".

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Lelek

) it is necessary to introduce the phrase "the reunification of the Ossetian people of SO and South Ossetia."

Then Georgia itself can be annexed, given the number of Georgians living in Russia, this too will be a reunion of peoples
a lion

[Lelek]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Alexander Romanov

Hey.
Georgia, you say, what is this? Ahhh, I remembered, this is the old name of the state of Georgia-2. And what kind of hell did this "education" surrender to? To drive immeasurable money into this black hole, and in return receive criminal godfathers? No, Shura, let them cook in their own juice. Alaverdy to you.

[Throw]

I think such polls by type of pumping of the Crimean scenario are incorrect. South Ossetia is not Russian Crimea, not a strategic springboard, and not two million Russians.

Some maxims are generally at the level of sabotage:

The main question is: how do Russian authorities react to this?

Lelek (7)
Democracy is good. As the South Oss demos vote, then so be it

according to the president of the Russian Federation, if the people of South Ossetia want to hold such a referendum, then "we cannot resist this." Significantly looked and such an addition:
Nothing holds us back except the interests of the South Ossetian people themselves.

And the interests and opinion of the RUSSIAN and, in general, the RUSSIAN PEOPLE forgot to ask?

"Doesn't hold us back" - "We, Nicholas II"?

Reading this, one gets the impression that part of the "demos", from presidents to leliks, are either misdirected, or completely "Tibilov" and are taking on a lot.

Such things should not be discussed behind the scenes on websites and the "reaction of the authorities", but decided by referendums. All-Russian.
Having a clear understanding of the politics, economics and problems of the region.
And how to solve them.
And whether we need it at all.

In order not to write later as in the next branch: "What is wrong with Dagestan?" It's there, next to it.

And then they already passed, some will be taken here, they will be presented to the second there, and then some Adygea in a referendum in 5 will be asked from here ...

[Svetlana]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Then Georgia itself can be annexed, given the number of Georgians living in Russia, this too will be a reunion of peoples

Yes, the people of all the former republics of the USSR would certainly not be in the majority opposed, but their politicians are not asked. They come up with a new history of these peoples, where Russia acts as an occupier, and wait for the generation of people to die out, who remembers the opposite, and in general all literate people who know the Russian language.

[RBLip]

Quote: Nagan

And you would be lustrating their type, i.e. shed light. With details - nickname, title, country, from which day zaregan. The country must know its heroes. And not mine either.

Yes please. I'm against. I just think that in the current economic conditions, joining another subsidized region (plus let's not forget that this is the Caucasus, with all the money that comes from the budget, is economically impractical). to South Ossetia, de facto, and so everything refers to the territory of Russia. and rodents, by the way, too, whatever they sang from high stands ... so personally, I think it's simple for now No time. let's first finish building the bridge and with Donbass we will solve the problem ...
Now about the heroes and lustration. at VO they love to troll and pin up maidan horses. I’m wondering how you, Mr. Nagan, will differ from them if you are going to lustrate only for a different opinion? and it does not remind you of anything? today in the trash tank, tomorrow anathema, then tomorrow to burn, then start to bomb. and I'm not talking about any bulk and the like. everything is clear with those, they are traitors. and who are you then, if you appropriate a function lustrate?
Personally, I already went to the VO when, for the same economical reasons, I was opposed to allocating three green watermelons at that time, as it were, to fraternal krajina. I wonder where are all those minusers and screamers about my narrowness of soul and practically a Jewish toad? something like this...

[Throw]

You and Nagant would have decided on the meaning of the term "lustration" ..
It is not from the word "chandelier"

[ruAlex]

Now is not the time, but tomorrow it will be late. Chechnya is also the Caucasus region and there was a lot of talk for it too ... While we are building bridges and solving the issue with Donbas, the situation may very much change and the moment is missed. PS Your position is heard, you did not minus.

[RBLip]

Quote: ruAlex

While we will build bridges and resolve the issue with Donbas, the situation may very much change and the moment is missed.

I do not agree. the moment is quite thin. the influence of Turkey, the ambitions of rodents ... that's why I write that in fact South Ossetia is in the zone of our immediate interests and increased attention. and while that's enough. there are much more hot spots for the application of force.

[Sid.74]

Quote: RBLip

the moment is quite subtle. the influence of turkey, the ambitions of rodents ... I therefore write that South Ossetia is actually in the zone of our immediate interests and increased attention. and that's enough for now.

The structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergency Situations of South Ossetia and the Russian Federation are already united. All of them have Russian passports, Russian pensions ... our military are there on a permanent basis.

It remains only to legally formalize it. Everything else is just a conversation about anything ...

[sergeybulkin]

Yes please. I'm against. I just think that in the current economic conditions, joining another subsidized region (plus let's not forget that this is the Caucasus, with all the money that comes from the budget, is economically impractical). to South Ossetia, de facto, and so everything refers to the territory of Russia. and rodents, by the way, too, whatever they sang from the high stands ... so personally, I think it's just not the time. let's first finish building the bridge and with Donbass we will solve the problem ...

I am for it only if the Ossetians themselves are for it. And about subsidized - do not impoverish! We trill trillions nowhere, for example, investing in US government bonds. Ossetians, unlike many of our former allied friends, will not consider us occupiers, and for this they can already be respected. And they will establish their economy faster than we do, they have the potential.

[RBLip]

Quote: sergeybulkin

And they will establish their economy faster than we do, they have the potential.

please, here is this moment in more detail. only about the superbusiness of vodka production, as in S. Ossetia, please do not suggest. By the way, in 2016 S. Ossetia will not receive "only" 7,9 billion rubles in subsidies. of course, in comparison with the same Chechnya or Dagestan a little. But personally, I do not see how prosperity will come to the Ossetian brothers.

[nadezhiva]

Do you understand what you are arguing about? I find it difficult, but isn't there a ruble in use? Salaries, pensions, etc., etc. Or do you really think that they print rubles themselves? How they were kept and will be kept.

[RBLip]

Quote: nadezhiva

How they were kept and will be kept.

the content of the ally and the content of the region are completely different amounts.

[dkflbvbh]

RBLip (1) RU Today, 08:05 ↑ yes please. I'm against. I just think that in the current economic conditions, the accession of another subsidized region (plus let's not forget that this is the Caucasus, with all the money that comes from the budget) economically impractical. to South Ossetia, de facto, and so everything refers to the territory of Russia. and rodents, by the way, too, whatever they sang from the high stands ... so personally, I think it's just not the time. let's finish the bridge first and we will solve the issue with Donbass ...

And who asked you about Crimea? .. It was the same as the crisis. Or are you a priori for double standards?
We do not forget that this Caucasus is Orthodox, not Muslim, and money will have to be invested there in the Moscow region, not in Dagestan (which no one proposes to expel from the state). And investing in the well-being of the people is the duty of the state, let us remember that not everything needs to be exported abroad ...
And with Donbass, what are you going to decide? What is he asking for? Let yourself figure it out first, and then you will decide something with him ...


I am for entry.

[BLOND]

And with Donbass, what are you going to decide? What is he asking for? Let yourself figure it out first, and then you will decide something with him ...

At a press conference on the outcome of negotiations held in Moscow with OSCE chairman Didier Burkhalter on May 7, Russian President Vladimir Putin appealed to federalization supporters in southeastern Ukraine to postpone referendums on separation of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics scheduled for May 11 - in order to create the necessary conditions for "a full-fledged dialogue between the current Kiev authorities and representatives of the south-east of Ukraine" [8] [9]. On May 8, 2014, members of the Lugansk People’s Republic and Donetsk People’s Republic decided not to postpone the date of the referendum on the status of the regions for another term in the context of the continuation of hostilities

May 12, representatives of the LPR declared sovereignty and expressed a desire to join Russia, as well as unite with the Donetsk People's Republic in New Russia

We have no choice and there was no other than with Russia! For a long time we have decided! The word is now in Russia

[RBLip]

Quote: dkflbvbh

And who asked you about Crimea? .. It was the same as the crisis. Or are you a priori for double standards?

in no way. Crimea was under the external control of horses. and resisted it by all means. South Ossetia is actually controlled by us (Russia).

Quote: dkflbvbh

And investing in the well-being of the people is the duty of the state, let us remember that not everything needs to be exported abroad ...

for starters, would you remember that Russia is not only the returning republics?

Quote: dkflbvbh

And with Donbass, what are you going to decide? What is he asking for? Let yourself figure it out first, and then you will decide something with him ...

trolling about YOU DECIDE is not a test. I am a citizen of Russia. liable for duty and taxpayer. I am Russia. and Russia is me. or do you disagree with this thesis? therefore, I wonder how I should write? Well, about the desire of Donbass, the colleague BLONDIN answered you popularly.

[Serg81]

Yes please. I'm against. just believe that in the current economic Dear RBLip. Russia is already swirling grandmothers into South Ossetia, and they won’t stop pouring money into it or not. And so the citizens of South Ossetia will be full citizens of the Russian Federation and this territory will officially form part of the Russian Federation as an independent republic or it will be annexed (which is more logical) to North Ossetia-Alania

[RBLip]

Quote: Serg81

Russia is already swirling grandmothers into South Ossetia, and they won’t stop pouring money into it or not. And so the citizens of South Ossetia will be full citizens of the Russian Federation and this territory will officially form part of the Russian Federation as an independent republic or it will be annexed (which is more logical) to North Ossetia-Alania

already wrote above. virtually all of the passports of the Russian Federation are there in your pocket. and attention and finances go there. but less than in other subsidized regions. again, joining Alanya, I think it will lead to a war of war between the so-called elites of these republics. heard the expression that the generals have their own children ... what for the center such a hemorrhoids?

[Atlas]

Do not smack nonsense !!! With confidence to write about what you do not understand this is apparently your hobby)))
I have the opposite opinion, but at least I live in Ossetia, and as it’s fashionable to say now, I’m in the subject !!
First of all, South Ossetia has been on the balance sheet of the Russian Federation for a long time, the population of the whole republic will fit in one good stadium, so a lot of money is not needed for them. But the location is very important, and if Crimea is the key to the Black Sea, then South Ossetia is a quick exit to the Transcaucasus. From Tskhinval to Gori 20 min. unhurried ride. It is not in vain that our troops are standing there in an amount sufficient not only to defend South Ossetia, but also to make such a normal inland penetration into Georgia if necessary.

[natakor1949]

Judging by the results of the survey of this article, where 91,91% are for the entry of South Ossetia into Russia, the result, I think, will be decided positively. Now is the most convenient time to decide on the entry into the Russian Federation of all those who wish, but who are still thinking or still doubting, because sanctions against Russia have already been introduced, no one is going to lift them in the foreseeable future (Glory to GOD), so it won't get any worse, this is a very convenient moment for reunification with Russia. And the liberoses like the Kasyanovs, the Gozmans, the Nadezhdins will hang like a stone around the neck of Russia for life, "neither for themselves - nor for the people," as they say. There have been traitors at all times and it is not worth paying attention to their squeak, 5% - 8% are not the people, this rabble. And to make it less showdown, let YOR remain.

[Achilles]

Yes please. I'm against. I just think that in the current economic conditions, joining another subsidized region (plus let's not forget that this is the Caucasus, with all the money that comes from the budget, is economically impractical). to South Ossetia, de facto, and so everything refers to the territory of Russia. and rodents, by the way, too, whatever they sang from the high stands ... so personally, I think it's just not the time. let's first finish building the bridge and with Donbass we will solve the problem ...

What current economic conditions are you talking about? Only a little less than 60 thousand people live there. man, this is less than people are placed on the stud. Luzhniki

[Svetlana]

Quote: RBLip

joining another subsidized region

What subsidy? With a competent economic policy, this region is able to give huge revenues to the budget! Just like the Crimea. At first, of course, investments will be needed, but in the near future they will pay off one hundred thousand times.

[Altona]

Quote: RBLip

Yes please. I'm against. I just think that in the current economic conditions, joining another subsidized region (plus let's not forget that this is the Caucasus, with all the money that comes from the budget, is economically impractical). to South Ossetia, de facto, and so everything refers to the territory of Russia. and rodents, by the way, too, whatever they sang from the high stands ... so personally, I think it's just not the time. let's first finish building the bridge and with Donbass we will solve the problem ...

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I am for. As for subsidies, these are trifles. 55 thousand people are my little regional center. Our budget will not incur any such global expenses. Residents of South Ossetia still go to work somewhere. And it is not difficult to maintain management in the large village of Tskhinvali, and it will be easier to control their expenses and prevent them from speculating, we still allocate money to them. These are the pros. The arguments against are mainly foreign policy, they will impose a "second" package of sanctions. They will write an act in the US Congress and the star rushed over the bumps for decades. So that's it. They destroyed the country overnight in 1991, but now they won't be able to collect it for years.

[Revolver]

Quote: RBLip

how will you, Mr. Nagan, differ from them if you intend to lustrate only for an opinion different from yours?

So lustration - it is different. It is possible as the Czechs did, i.e. published lists of local GB informers. And you can, as you suggest, in Ukrainian, with ritual races and garbage cans. Everyone has their own view.

[RBLip]

Quote: Nagan

Everyone has their own view.

that is, each has its own view, but for an opinion that is different from the majority opinion, should be lustrated?

[Revolver]

Of course, this word in bad memory was taken by the perestroika years in shit, but for the lack of a better one it will have to be used.
What I suggested is to betray publicity those whom our distinguished moderator Romanov called in the previous post "Georgians". And the fact that Maidan horses and garbage containers seemed to you is your problem.

[KSLip]

Quote: Nagan

What I was proposing was to publicize those whom our esteemed moderator Romanov called "Georgians" in a previous post. And the fact that Maidan horses and garbage containers seemed to you is your problem.

You voiced the word lustration. something is not remembered this concept in outline publicity. rituals of sacrifice - yes, informers on informers - yes, some kind of censorship - too. and here publicity in this concept - no. so your expression is not my problem, but rather your attempt to justify your clumsy use of this (far from the most harmonious in today's reality) word. and as for the moderator Romanov - this is his purely private opinion. well, or not the most successful joke. although the question in this article was not raised the most ridiculous. and humor, and it’s very inappropriate, and to the moderator ... we all really want our officials to be more modest, right? and so the moderator Romanov is an official at VO .... everyone wants change, but for some reason they don’t want to start on their own .... this is so, by the way ...

[adma]

And you would be lustrating their type, i.e. shed light. With details - nickname, title, country, from which day zaregan.

Well, I minus. So what? If there is a geopolitical need for the annexation of Crimea, then I personally do not see any need for an annexation of South Ossetia. Neither geopolitical nor economic.
PS: A little about myself - Russian, Russian, reserve officer, tanker. I have government awards. Date of registration: August 17, 2015 20:15. You’ll read Nick yourself.
Are you satisfied?
I have the honor (as well as my own opinion)!

[Aleksandr72]

I would gladly vote "yes", tk. I think that South Ossetia has no other way of establishing its own statehood, but to join Russia (and whether as a new subject of the federation or unification with North Ossetia - Alania into a single Ossetian state within Russia - this is already a matter for the Ossetians and Russians themselves) ... But not being a citizen of Russia, I do not consider myself eligible to vote. It's a pity.
I have the honor.

[Egoza]

Quote: Alexander72

But not being a citizen of Russia, I do not consider myself eligible to vote. It's a pity.

And I voted, as a citizen of the USSR, I believe that it is time to restore the state within its present borders.

[Lelek]

Quote: Egoza

And I voted as a citizen of the USSR

Hey.

[Svetlana]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: Alexander72

But not being a citizen of Russia, I do not consider myself eligible to vote. It's a pity.

And I voted, as a citizen of the USSR, I believe that it is time to restore the state within its present borders.

And I also think so. And I also consider myself a citizen of the USSR. I even kept my passport. Somehow, at the beginning of the 90's, she thought she had lost, made a new one, and then found it. Here sometimes I look at him and think: suddenly it will do.

[Aleksandr72]

Well, if you allow ... I’ll probably also vote, especially since I fully and completely support your opinion that it is high time to restore the state within its real borders — the borders of the USSR, in which I was born and raised.
I have the honor

[Oleneboy_]

I still have sanctions for the entry of South Ossetia into the Russian Federation. So let them come

[Lelek]

Quote: Oleneboy_

I still have sanctions for the entry of South Ossetia into the Russian Federation. So let them come

I support. This people deserves UNITY and Tranquility.
(cry.)

[iliya87]

Why do we need new problems? We haven’t figured it out yet, do you want a new wave of aggression? Moreover, in general, the article is not about anything; there is no talk about joining as with the Crimea. South Ossetia perfectly understands the piquancy of the situation and we will talk about expanding the union, here with two hands FOR! That is, in fact, South Ossetia will be a neutral territory, but in fact, like Crimea, it will become a part. Young people will serve in our army, under the guise of transferring experience, our military will be on duty at the border, etc. This is completely different, it turns out we will join without joining))

[siberalt]

The whole hitch lies in the fact that the question contains the word to hold "opportunity". What is it like? Dreaming is not forbidden to anyone by definition. Or is it necessary to vote for it, and then approve it by someone else?

The other day, the demarcation of the state border on the section between South Ossetia and Russia ended. Georgia refused to participate in this, considering South Ossetia to be annexed by the Russian Federation territory. The bilateral demarcation agreement emphasized the fact that Russia recognized South Ossetia as an independent and sovereign state. In the future, agreements on regulating order on the common border, an agreement on friendship and mutual assistance, etc. will follow.
Is this the right moment for this from the perspective of global politics? No, far from the most suitable, except for irritation and an extra reason to incite anti-Russian sentiment does not give anything. It seems that our state will cope with the economy and social programs of several tens of thousands of residents of the republic, the size of one Russian rural area, painlessly for the budget. As for the future prospects of South Ossetia, certain developments are probably being carried out there as well.
We would also have to resolve many issues with our "allies", including the recognition of South Ossetia.

[Alexander 3]

Finally, one people will live in one state.

[subbtin.725]

South and North Ossetia is a single people.

[Egevich]

Quote: subbtin.725

South and North Ossetia is a single people.

and I remind you that during the years of World War II there was not a single traitor among the Ossetians ...

[siberalt]

Ossetia, therefore, in fact, reunited. Most South Ossetians voted for Russia after receiving her citizenship.

[Finches]

Georgians will start howling again and look for support from daddies from across the ocean! To what the Georgians have sunk - it's a shame ... They've become a bed of Americans and officials from Brussels! Live now Shota Rustaveli, he would call his poem: "VityazЯ on a tiger skin ... "

[Amurets]

Quote: Finches

Georgians will start howling again and look for support from daddies from across the ocean! To what the Georgians have sunk - it's a shame ... They've become a bed of Americans and officials from Brussels! Live now Shota Rustaveli, he would have called his poem: "The Knight on the Panther's Skin ..."

Yes, and how much I read so much and write about hostility between Ossetians and Georgians. I will not deepen, but I will give two interesting links, and then decide.
http://www.gazeta.ru/science/2013/08/26_a_5605477.shtml
http://amsiraf.ru/history/proish/

[Finches]

Thank you for the links!

[Atlas]

do not give thanks, for the first link is complete crap written by a graduate Tiflis seminaries. The second is less or less true.
Read better J. Dumezil or F.V Miller if interested. The same works by Vaso Abaev and Bzarov.
There is also a trilogy "Alans, the road to the west", you can look on YouTube ...

[Amurets]

Quote: Atlas

The first link is complete crap written by a graduate of the Tiflis Seminary. The second is less or less true.

What you think about this on the other side, you also need to know. Without knowing the enemy’s position, you can lose with big losses. Now they shoot not with ammunition, but with words. Ammunition is used when they are duped. Do you have enough examples of Ukraine? And the rest I agree with you completely. And I already wrote that I am completely for the unification of South and North Ossetia. The errors of the leader of the peoples must be corrected.

[parusnik]

Let them come in .. real control over budget spending will be .. but it’s not clear where the money goes ..

[72jora72]

Let them come in .. real control over budget spending will be .. but it’s not clear where the money goes ..

I categorically agree, at least the order will be in the territory .....

[fa2998]

Voted "YES", but I will howl in the West, do not cry! Another occupation and annexation of Russia part of the territory of neighbors. No neighbors would have adequate rulers, they would not create problems for their fellow citizens, there would be no problem!

[perm23]

They will howl and howl anyway. We just bother them with our fact of existence.

[ruAlex]

True, there is no reason they will find him.

[Tusv]

Quote: fa2998

Voted "YES", but there will be howling in the West, do not cry! Another occupation and annexation of Russia part of the territory of its neighbors

Of course, the reunification of the Ossetian people is a holy thing. Proven by Germany and naturally YES. But for the bourgeoisie it is stronger Fausta Goethe Joining of Crimea to Russia. For it is not a frail precedent for the reunification of the Kurdish people

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: fa2998

Voted "YES", but I will howl in the West, do not cry! Another occupation and annexation of Russia part of the territory of its neighbors.

On the one hand, why should they howl?
In the recent past, there were West Germans and East Germans, the unification of which took place simply by the good will of the USSR without any referenda.
And here everything is decorum, in compliance with international procedures - one people, one republic, through the expression of will.
It is clear that the West will behave like a dejected associate professor "I REMEMBER HERE, I DO NOT REMEMBER HERE", but this is the West's problem. Doctor Lavrov will be able to refresh their memory.

[slovak007]

North and South are one Ossetia, one people, they should not be divided.

[33 Watcher]

Yes! Ready! And I’ll explain why. Enough to produce these disputed territories in the vast expanses of the former USSR. If to protect someone to do it qualitatively.
But Georgia so wanted in NATO, here is Abkhazia, and we will solve the issue of disputed territories. Why are they outraged?

PS The site again hangs, so that the text is difficult to enter.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Observer 33

PS The site again hangs, so that the text is difficult to enter.

Most likely you have problems, clean cookies

[Amurets]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Most likely you have problems, clean cookies

I usually use "СCleaner" it happens that a sea of ​​dirt will pull out, which you do not even suspect, only this junk needs to be configured correctly, otherwise it will remove everything. How to configure is in Russian.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Observer 33

PS The site again hangs, so that the text is difficult to enter.

Most likely you have problems, clean cookies

I cleaned it, I'm writing from the "android". I keep forgetting about his tendency to self-pollution And I sin - then on the Internet - then on the pages (although sometimes they happen) ...
Thank you all!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Observer 33

Thank you all!

[Amurets]

Quote: Observer 33

PS The site again hangs, so that the text is difficult to enter.

Press
ctrl-alt-del. Through the drop-down window, search for a malfunction on the Internet. The browser itself will be configured if you have a LISA. And what about the disputed territories? Above in Ossetia, I gave links. Adjara and Abkhazia were also not territories of Georgia. We unravel the policy of the Bolsheviks in the Caucasus, which was spun after the revolution. Although the Turks and the British are to blame for everything, since the First World War to the present day they have supported nationalist movements in the Caucasus. I vote "FOR". And you should not pay attention to the war. There is a Foreign Ministry that can politely send , it is a pity that we are not according to the explanatory dictionary of T.V. Akhmetova.

[Mikhail m]

Russia has always been a refuge for small nations. There is a natural process.

[horoh]

I-for, without options !!!

[Reptiloid]

So Crimea joined, South Ossetia will join, and the process will go! And then too many countries dream of tearing pieces from us!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Reptiloid

So Crimea joined, South Ossetia will join, and the process will go!

Hilary Clitor and company hair are growing at home *****

[Kos_kalinki9]

If they still stayed there.

[33 Watcher]

Yes, let them tear it out, let it jump at least through the windows, at least beat their heads against the wall
And that’s what they’ve thought of, they’ve started talking about lifting the sanctions, we still have surprises for you a hundred years ahead.

[Vasily Krylov]

As for the sanctions, I do not agree, in any case. It is not necessary to cancel them. I will not even explain why. But on the issue of Ossetia. I am “FOR” with both hands.

[Lelek]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Hilary Clitor and company hair are growing at home *****

If I get in, will I be nothing?
EPT, neither the old woman Hillary, nor her similar "remnants" like Brzezinski, McCain and Albright did not stop and will not stop tearing a hair on the priest's hair about this terrible and wrong Russia. The best remedy in this case is to spit on the sunset.
(cry.)

[Yak28]

Quote: Mikhail M

Russia has always been a refuge for small nations. There is a natural process.

But how cool in the 90s these small nations drove the Russians from their territories and led, and many still carry out Russophobic politics

[rotmistr60]

It is difficult to say no when a part of the Ossetian people in the Russian Federation, while a part is still hanging. Therefore - YES.

[socol562]

One must think that this decision will be an impetus for other peoples to closer relations with Russia.

[From Udmurtia]

Unambiguous YES. Interesting: when will Abkhazia be pulled up?

[dmikras]

Ahazia is not very sure what she wants
Protect them protect tourists every year more

[midashko]

It is not yet known, but do we need Abkhazia? Do they want to join themselves? In the century before last, Georgia begged for admission to Russia. Because of her, there were several wars with Turkey. But now they are reading us as invaders, on their territory they are placing weapons aimed in our direction, bacteriological laboratories.

[Yak28]

I will be unpopular because my opinion does not coincide with the majority opinion, but I will write nonetheless. What does 90% of the inhabitants of the Caucasus (no matter what nationality) do in large cities of Russia? This is trade (speculation) and all kinds of crime. The inhabitants of the Caucasus do not develop their own states, the saying where they were born there didn’t work for them. And if accession happens, and I have no doubt about it, Russia will receive another unsuccessful subsidized criminal region, which money will flow like a pipe. Of course there is one plus, it is an increase in the territory of the state. If, for example, Finland were asked to join Russia I would not mind, but here alas and ah.

[R-140]

If you don’t connect them, we will get another hotbed of tension at our side. Yes, it is already so. And if they are part of Russia, then go to the territory of the Russian Federation at the gut is thin. And inside the country, order must be put in place and not wait for the president to kick someone.

[AdekvatNICK]

buddy, you are apparently a very cool guy. Can we join everyone? Moldova ... LPR ... DNR .... Ossetia ... further add it yourself .... did you even go outside?
will you take them all out on your hump? at 40 bucks a barrel of oil? when there is talk of high, appetite always comes.

[Atlas]

And what do you think are refugees from the east who simply will live on benefits, all these DNI, LC, South Ossetia, etc. ???? They also said about Crimea that it is subsidized, but it turns out there are enterprises there, and if they are restored, then they will start to bring profit, have not heard such a thing ??? And you don’t know how much the Donbass brought to the budget of Ukraine, you’re our cool ..........

[Atlas]

Bullshit .... all under one comb !!!! Firstly, in the major cities of Russia, the Russians themselves are most involved in crime !!! or didn’t you know ???
And where did you get the idea that South Ossetia is a criminal region, have you come up with ?? If you do not understand, then why write any slag ?? better be quiet.

[dsm100]

Putin is and will remain in people's memory as a "collector of the Russian lands." And the rest of the shushara squandered them.

[orphan 63]

My vote is against. I will try to explain.
1. The population of South Ossetia is 50 thousand (plus / minus - no exact data). What sovereign republican status can we talk about?
The population of Russian Ossetia is 700 thousand people, if it is necessary to join South Ossetia, you need to add it to the SO, that is, make one entity - one Ossetia.
Otherwise, you can start the process of the collapse of Russia again - every 50 thousand people living nearby and united by any criterion will begin to demand an upgrade.
2. Remember - "Take as much sovereignty as you want and you can carry it away" ?!
This phrase taken out of context by Yeltsin, said by him "in their hearts", still allows many to blame him for almost all post-Soviet conflicts. In fact, these "sovereignty troubles" have a different author - Gorbachev. Negotiations for the signing of a renewed union treaty led to a brazen and dastardly blackmailing of all Union republics - already existing mainly at the expense of Russia, they wanted even more. Six out of 15 refused to sign a new agreement. Then the Central Committee and the marked one came up with what they thought was a clever move - they promised all the Autonomous Republics an increase to the Union level. There were 20 ASSSRs, of which 16 were in the Russian Federation. After that, the Autonomous Regions also tried to snatch something for themselves. The signing of the Union Treaty was thwarted, and the "hopeful and dreaming" autonomies of all levels in the Russian Federation began to demand more rights from Yeltsin. It was then that it was said - as part of the Russian Federation and on the basis of self-financing (that is, without subsidies at the expense of others), choke on your sovereignty. The fact that after the collapse of the Union Russia did not collapse is the merit of Yeltsin.

[orphan 63]

What is South Ossetia today?

1. There is practically no industry, from the word at all - few are few and small are small. All that at least somehow works, only due to subsidies from the Russian Federation with huge costs and debts.
2. There is no transport, only a car with terrible roads, which also do not exist. There is no airport or air service. There is no railway either .. The train station of the commuter trains from Tskhinval to Georgia has been converted into a bus station.
3. The only source of income is fruits / vegetables that are sold to us. At the same time, all agricultural products are in an uprooting state.
4. There are no minerals or at least anything else useful.
5. The whole infrastructure is able not just oh, but oh oh oh oh ...
6. More than 60% of the population are pensioners
7. They are not used to work, including because there is nowhere, and for the past 25 years.
8. I do not want to offend anyone, but even our Ossetians consider them to be selyaks by mentality, speculators and swindlers by nature.
So let them first try to reunite with our Ossetia, with two referenda in two Ossetia. And only on the rights of the district or region of South Ossetia in the SO.

[Syrdon]

Orphan where such information? Perhaps I will answer on points - There is no industry here, you are right, but work in this direction is ongoing and there are already results. There is no air or railway connection, but it wasn’t in Soviet times either, and the roads are now in good condition and are maintained as such because this is the only connection with Russia today. The railway station and in Soviet times combined a bus station, since electricians traveled extremely rarely in Tbilisi. Fruits and vegetables, there is something to work on. Infrastructure for 25 years of the war was certainly destroyed, but is now recovering at an accelerated pace. It is for 60% of retirees that they re-establish schools and a university, apparently, so that they can learn again. They always loved and knew how to work in South Ossetia, it’s not necessary to make dependents out of us and have taken root. There are a lot of minerals in South Ossetia, and it is they who have been mined and continue to be mined in Kvais and delivered to Russia. About Selyuk, swindlers and speculators, you can come to South Ossetia and personally tell us this in person, and not nod on the side of our brothers on the other side of the ridge. So it seems that you are either a provocateur or a representative of our proud, very brave and independent neighbor on the other hand.
Waiting for an apology! I have the honor!

[natakor1949]

It’s sad to read about retirees who are useless, and where these former retirees worked for 40-60 years, not in the USSR, where taxes were paid for the development of the country. Who is to blame for the fact that the people of the USSR lived worse than the European one, weren't these Europeans "civilized" who fought endless wars with Russia? Collect territories with the people of the former USSR - the time has come!

[Atlas]

Oooooooooh .., one more expert on Ossetia))) But where do you come from?
I answer your ingenious post!
1 There is no industry, because there was a destructive war that did not leave NIFIG !!! and all the time until 2008, the constant threat of a new one, try to build an industry in such conditions, wise guy.
2 There was no air traffic and with the union, there was no need for it. Railway was cut off because it only went to Georgia. Project w. There are already roads from North Ossetia, but in the current realities it will not be realized soon. By the way, roads in the republic are being restored gradually and certainly not worse than some of ours (Russian)
3 Fruits and vegetables from South Ossetia DO NOT DELIVER !!!! our customs do not miss them. They have a ban on agricultural products from Georgia, and in order not to bathe for a long time, where did everything that came under the ban fall into)))
4 As for minerals, well, it's just p ... q, read accordingly. literature of the times of the USSR, you will be surprised))) It was not in vain that Luzhkov after 08,08,08 wanted to invest in the Kvaisinsky mines, but the poor fellow did not have time))))))))
5 I agree with only one thing - that there is practically no work for youth, either construction or troops or the police. The republic needs new jobs urgently !!!
And most importantly, what kind of "our Ossetians" are you talking about ??? Do you know any of the Southerners ???
So the crook and the liar are you !!!!!!!!!!

[midashko]

Question one:
Are you ready to support the possible entry of South Ossetia into the Russian Federation, if the residents of the RSO itself speak in favor?

Of course, I support the entry of South Ossetia into the Russian Federation, for the reunification of the Ossetian people.
But, I argue theoretically, here one referendum from the side of the willing side is not enough. There should be a second referendum on the consent of the adoption of Russia, by its population. Otherwise, a situation is possible when a group controlled by a foreign hegemon, similar to Gorbachev or Yeltsin, comes to power in Russia. This power takes in the composition of the country, some African or Middle Eastern countries. The population of these people is determined to lead only a parasitic lifestyle (like European migrants) and their very presence can lead to disruption and the collapse of the Russian state. Therefore, a mechanism is needed that can block such decisions of the administration.
Well, what will happen if, for example, China is accepted into the composition of the country. And after that, democratic elections will be held and reforms implemented. You can be sure that soon this whole big country will be called China. The story will be rewritten. There will be neither Yakuts, nor Buryats, nor Russians, all will become in their mass in 2-3 generations Chinese. Therefore, in order to ensure the country's security, the constitution should state that the change of territory (in any direction) should be carried out exclusively through referenda.

[Pvi1206]

The decision is not difficult to make. Difficulties arise in overcoming the consequences of the decision.
Why is the reunification of a single nation a problem, and its separation not a problem?
It's not about the people (

55 thousandth population of South Ossetia

Such a population is an area of ​​an average city.
) and in the territory, in changing borders. And here a lot depends on the position of Georgia.
If Georgia joined Russia, then the question would be removed.
Russia is already under sanctions. Worse will not be ?!
That is the main question.

[Stiletto]

Quote: Pvi1206

Russia is already under sanctions. Worse will not be ?!

- Who is worse? If not for the low oil prices, we would not have noticed any negative consequences of the so-called "sanctions". Well, in addition to the flourishing of our agriculture, reducing the dominance of foreign shit in the markets and a number of other goodies.

PS: I’ve bought myself an antencephalitic suit - our, Russian-made one. And not out of patriotism (not only because of it, or rather), but stupidly because it turned out to be really better than foreign analogues

[Demeter]

To me, this: Either these territories should be part of the Russian Federation, or Russia should completely stop financing these territories from its budget. Independent states should live at their own expense, and not at the expense of the Russian Federation!

[AdekvatNICK]

these states are our military hand holding a shield in front of our borders. But apparently you do not understand.
Likewise, the DPR and LPR. Therefore, we support them.

[dobrovchic]

North, South Ossetia is one nation. It must be included in Russia!

[Cucumbers]

Generally not the correct formulation of the question. The creation of the Republic of Ossetia within the Russian Federation (unification of the South and North) would be correct. Advantages: Severnaya takes the South as if on a "tow", the issues of adaptation, lawmaking are solved astronomically faster. This is much more economically justified. Two people are united, but in fact one people. The referendum must be combined with re-elections in the republics. From an international point of view, the process will not look like annexation

[atamankko]

Behind. Let on the basis of referenda be part of the JI.

[Algetxnumx]

Quote: RBLip

Yes please. I'm against. I just think that in the current economic conditions, the accession of another subsidized region

South and North Ossetia are one people and they must live together, imagine yourself in their place, half of the relatives in one state, and half in another, although we want to live together. Our economic conditions "in life" are always not ah, less for every crap, like the World Cup and all sorts of summits will spend. My minus.

[AdekvatNICK]

typical thinking ..... ah, you spent on the World Cup? it would be better if they helped grandmother ... oh you bought analgin for a billion; it would be better if you helped disabled people ...... let's generally close the sport then a lot of money will be on the road.

[natakor1949]

Quote: natakor1949

Judging by the results of the survey of this article, where 91,91% are for the entry of South Ossetia into Russia, the result, I think, will be decided positively. Now is the most convenient time to decide on the entry into the Russian Federation of all those who wish, but who are still thinking or still doubting, because sanctions against Russia have already been introduced, no one is going to lift them in the foreseeable future (Glory to GOD), so it won't get any worse, this is a very convenient moment for reunification with Russia. And the liberoses like the Kasyanovs, the Gozmans, the Nadezhdins will hang like a stone around the neck of Russia for life, "neither for themselves - nor for the people," as they say. There have been traitors at all times and it is not worth paying attention to their squeak, 5% - 8% are not the people, this rabble. And to make it less showdown, let YOR remain.

[rus-5819]

we must abide by the law and not expose the political risks of our strategic partner - Russia.
All the same, partners from behind a puddle will "attend"!

The entry of South Ossetia into Russia will entail a chain reaction of accession: Abkhazia, Transnistria of Gagauzia, maybe Moldova.
In this regard, the Baltic states are not closed either, because Europe is not in a position to feed its poor relatives forever, and in order to throw a "suitcase without a handle" into the hands of Russia, they will be expelled from NATO, and asked from the EU. Is Russia ready for this?

[AdekvatNICK]

Russia is not here, but 90 percent of the sofas with HE are ready to join the whole world.

[yuriy55]

Let's welcome the desire of the neighbors to live as one family, in a single space If someone believes that they are joining Russia only in order to get spoons and a place at the boiler, this is not true. People of common views and opinions on various issues of the political and social structure should help each other both in housekeeping and in the simplest defense against encroachments on the sovereignty of all sorts of adversaries

[AdekvatNICK]

you probably again want us to become the USSR and then fall apart again?

[Atlas]

"These states are our military hand holding a shield in front of our borders. But you probably do not understand.
Likewise, the DPR and LPR. That is why we support them. "

You already decide, my friend.

[AdekvatNICK]

they will exist as a buffer for Russia in which, in the event of a military invasion, Russia will defend its borders abroad on their territory. You are big, you must understand what war is on its territory, this is a special situation. Therefore, they will never be recognized. But not in the composition Russia. Aunt

[Castilio]

After the second case of the expansion of the Russian Federation, Mr. Putin can already be assigned a "land collector."
Well, on the topic. Even proceeding from the phrase of the anecdote "And tse mi pid tomatoes ..." this republic will not be superfluous Russia, but from the point of view of the military ... very, very useful.

[maxim1987]

I am for. It is necessary to completely cut the Muslim Caucasus Christian Republic

[L10n77]

Quote: Lelek

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Alexander Romanov

Hey.
Georgia, you say, what is this? Ahhh, I remembered, this is the old name of the state of Georgia-2. And what kind of hell did this "education" surrender to? To drive immeasurable money into this black hole, and in return receive criminal godfathers? No, Shura, let them cook in their own juice. Alaverdy to you.

and if you join South Ossetia and Abkhazia, is not the same? Immeasurable money is already pouring into these black holes, and in return one crime from there, do not believe it - see how many crimes are committed by immigrants from Abkhazia in Sochi, almost 80%.

[Atlas]

But these are immigrants from Abkhazia, right ??? or for you Abkhazians and Ossetians are one people ???

[Lazy person]

I don’t believe it, since the DNI and the LC did not join, you definitely won’t take South Ossetia.

[AdekvatNICK]

voted "No". We are already together. They are already under our protection. Just like the LPR and the DPR cannot be attached. Those who understand the difference to help a foreign state or to fight on their territory will understand me. There is a difference. To fight, say, in unrecognized Ossetia or LPR and DPR, thus providing support, they will be a battleground, acting as a buffer between Russia and the rest, or (if they are annexed) we will fight on our territory. Once again, spell it ... War in Ossetia or for example near Rostov. One thing when we hollowed on the distant approaches to the Georgians in Ossetia, or if they began shelling the territory of Russia. This is a completely different nerve of the war.
He wrote more than once that neither the DPR nor the LPR nor Ossetia will be annexed to us. Stop speculating on this topic. A patriot or not a patriot. You need to think with your brains. Therefore, you vote "for". Because you vote with emotions.
And that's why you are not the president of the country, but the people. Recognizing that is not a problem. It's a matter of a couple of days. One day to convene the Federation Council and another to a referendum. Turnout is 80 percent, that's easy. And what's next? and then a return to the USSR? No, it’s not necessary. V.V himself said that this wouldn’t happen. We’ll be able to integrate ourselves so beautifully, painlessly, slowly. Cover the sleeper sofas.

[Atlas]

When does he let him go ??????
I understood correctly, If our soldiers are shot in South Ossetia, this is one thing, but if near Rostov, this is different, and Russia's reaction may be different ??????? Thank God that you are not the president, but the president then took and heaped the Georgian army in five days, in full accordance with the will of the people !!!!
And how was it "hollowed out on the distant approaches of the Georgians" ?????? That is, the seizure of practically all of Georgia, with the exception of Tbilisi, is "on the distant approaches" ??? And then what is on the near approaches ???

[Stena]

Quote: Atlas

and the president then took and plundered the Georgian army in five days, in full accordance with the will of the people!

There was no order from the president, so General Makarov Nikolai Egorovich himself decided to transfer the fighting to the territory of Georgia ...

[Atlas]

are you serious?????????

[Stena]

Absolutely - nowhere more serious. And it's not a joke. Could have been a head in the bushes, but that’s a real general who has the courage. But now - the head of the gene. headquarters.

[AdekvatNICK]

no, the people have the ability to whine and demand more when the war goes on in the country and when outside it is different. When the war goes on, our victims will be tens and hundreds of times more.

[aiden]

I have nothing against the entry, but there is one "but". I don’t know how the situation is now, but before, every second there had a Kalash or another firearm. it is necessary for specialists to disassemble this situation. I have not heard anything about the voluntary surrender of weapons. I didn’t want this weapon to light up in other regions, although it’s me. there is enough of their own. this also applies to DNR / LPR.
ps. minus as you want

[Scout]

It's high time. It is necessary to unite Ossetia. And I am for holding a referendum throughout Russia, too.

[Lumumba]

In general, of course, conducting such surveys on this site is about the same as conducting a survey "Do you like eating meat" among cats.

The main audience of the site is patriots of all stripes. Those who could be against for whatever reasons, as a rule, do not come here, considering this resource a "hotbed of terry cotton wool". Therefore, I do not see any sense in the survey. I voted FOR :)

[NACC]

Another Caucasian leech on the body of Russia.

[Gost171]

BEHIND. It's time to collect everything squandered, break and build, - not the same thing.