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Media: China has passed the test of the latest rocket DF-41

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The Chinese military tested the latest Dongfeng 41 (DF-41) ICBM capable of reaching any corner of the United States, reports RIA News message of the Washington Free Beacon resource.


Media: China has passed the test of the latest rocket DF-41


“The newest Chinese rocket with a split head for individual targeting can carry from six to 10 warheads over a distance of more than 10 thousands of kilometers. This is enough to reach every corner of the USA within 30 minutes, ”a military source explained to the resource.

The publication notes, "a new test of the ICBM coincided with a visit by a high-ranking Chinese general to one of the disputed islands in the South China Sea."

According to the source, "the launch of the rocket was recorded by the American satellite tracking systems." However, he did not specify where the launch was made this time. (Last time, December 5 2015 g, the ICBM was launched from the railway platform).

The resource also noted that “only three days after launch, the head of the US Department of Defense, Ashton Carter, visited the aircraft carrier John C. Stennis, which is located in the same waters.”

For the first time, information about China’s development of an 3-generation ICBM was publicly announced in the summer of 2014 in the US report “On the trends of the development of the armed forces and the security sector. In particular, it said that the PLA improves the level of its armament, "thereby carrying a threat to Washington."
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  1. Gerfalcon
    Gerfalcon April 20 2016 09: 57
    +7
    The Chinese do not have the troubles in copying, but it’s hard for them to come up with a fundamentally new one ...
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 April 20 2016 10: 02
      +6
      It doesn’t matter, copied or invented by yourself. The important thing is that another country can get hold of the United States at any point.
      able to reach any corner of the United States
      1. DMB_95
        DMB_95 April 20 2016 10: 18
        +5
        Now, around China, the Amers need to build a missile defense system .. Again - the budget, again - to cut .. And then it turns out that the Chinese missiles have this missile defense.
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K April 20 2016 11: 13
          0
          Quote: DMB_95
          Now, around China, the Amers need to build a missile defense system .. Again - the budget, again - to cut .. And then it turns out that the Chinese missiles have this missile defense.

          And they already have it, only in Japan. There are several ships with the Aegis system with SM-3 missiles. If this system will really be able to intercept the mass launch of ballistic missiles, then very few will fly to America. For example, the destroyer USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) - destroyer URO type "Arly Burke" has up to 90 missiles SM-3. Three destroyers of this class will be enough to intercept all Chinese missiles. In addition, these destroyers are capable of retaliating with their nuclear Tomahawks.
          1. DMB_95
            DMB_95 April 20 2016 11: 55
            0
            Quote: Алексей_К
            Quote: DMB_95
            Now, around China, the Amers need to build a missile defense system .. Again - the budget, again - to cut .. And then it turns out that the Chinese missiles have this missile defense.

            And they already have it, only in Japan. There are several ships with the Aegis system there. For example, the destroyer USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) - a URO destroyer of the Arly Burke type, has up to 90 SM-3 missiles. Three destroyers of this class will be enough to intercept all Chinese missiles. In addition, these destroyers are capable of retaliating with their nuclear Tomahawks.

            And if, Chinese and our missiles - is that enough for everyone? Indeed, if you imagine the option of exchanging nuclear strikes between China and the United States, then even with a very successful interception for amers, some Chinese missiles will still fly. The United States will immediately strike back at China, and here Our missiles fly to them. If the planet survives, then China and America will not be on it. And I do not envy all survivors. Any alignment is bad for everyone.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh April 20 2016 12: 16
              +2
              "And if Chinese and our missiles are enough for everyone?" ///

              And why are you sure that the Chinese will be sent to the United States?
              Something forbids them to direct them to Moscow or Petersburg?
              1. Talgat
                Talgat April 21 2016 17: 18
                0
                Quote: voyaka uh
                And why are you sure that the Chinese will be sent to the United States?
                Something forbids them to direct them to Moscow or Petersburg?


                This comment is pure manipulation. Although I am not a "fan" of China, but still-

                In fact, nuclear missiles are primarily a means of deterring the aggressor. China restrains the United States, and the United States pursues a policy hostile to China - surrounding China with bases, a fleet and setting neighbors against it - supporting them against China

                China now has friendly and almost allied relations with Russia - and there is no need to restrain Russia, since Russia is not a threat to China

                They write a lot about this. that the 21 century is a century of confrontation between China and the USA, and China with Russia with all its CSTO and EAC is now considered only as an ally and friendly rear.
            2. Aleksey_K
              Aleksey_K April 20 2016 12: 31
              +1
              Quote: DMB_95
              And if, Chinese and our missiles - is that enough for everyone?

              Russia will not participate in China’s aggression against America. Then we will never become a world leading power. We will then be the aggressor. Well, you should not forget about NATO. NATO also has nuclear weapons. If we attack America, then Europe will also have to be attacked. Nothing good will come of it.
              1. Karlovar
                Karlovar April 20 2016 15: 37
                0
                How do you imagine China’s aggression against the US across the ocean ????
            3. NordUral
              NordUral April 20 2016 14: 41
              0
              How insidious and evil you are, however, you have not regretted half the world.
          2. mvg
            mvg April 20 2016 12: 23
            +4
            Alexey, and you are an optimist ..))) SM-3 in the amount of 96 pieces, Orly Burks never had it .., this time; secondly, the SM-3 "on takeoff" does not shoot down (until, I hope, it will not master it); and thirdly, 90 SM-3 does not mean that 90 warheads will be intercepted .. There are doubts that at least one will be intercepted ..
            PS: There has never been an interception in combat conditions .. There were training warheads with known ballistic trajectories .. And here, already from the railway platform .. Practically "Barguzin" in Chinese .. I would stock up with diapers .. better size 5-8 ..
            1. Aleksey_K
              Aleksey_K April 20 2016 13: 02
              0
              Quote: mvg
              Alexey, and you are an optimist ..))) SM-3 in the amount of 96 pieces, Orly Burks never had it .., this time; secondly, the SM-3 "on takeoff" does not shoot down (until, I hope, it will not master it); and thirdly, 90 SM-3 does not mean that 90 warheads will be intercepted .. There are doubts that at least one will be intercepted ..

              Firstly, on these destroyers I wrote before 90, and not 96 SM-3 missiles, because on ships of this class 90 cells for these missiles, but they (SM-3) can be combined with Tomahawk missiles.
              And the most important thing. America’s URM destroyer squadron type “Arleigh Burke” is 62 pieces, and not as I suggested 3 pieces from Japan. This means they can now carry up to 5580 missiles of the SM-3 type. Are you few? Besides cruisers URO type "Ticonderoga" (Ticonderoga) - 22 pcs. also have an Aegis system with SM-1 missiles.
              Secondly, no one tested our missile defense and air defense systems for a mass attack with missiles. In this regard, we only assume that we can accomplish this. The Americans are just guessing too.
              Is it easier for you that our systems are not fully tested?
              Thirdly. Do not consider Americans completely fools. Missile interception ships should stand at a distance most convenient for interception. Therefore, they do not need to do an interception at the start, although they dream of creating such a system.
          3. NordUral
            NordUral April 20 2016 14: 40
            0
            Everything is not so sweet with the Aegis, but it is worth considering this system, carefully studying its real capabilities, and not only in the missile defense system.
      2. hydrox
        hydrox April 20 2016 10: 36
        +2
        Here another thing is important, HIDDEN: the Russian engine is standing on this rocket!
        Moreover, dummies offered Russia ALL electronic technologies on which military electronics (protected against the electromagnetic pulse of a nuclear explosion) can be made in exchange for production technologies for liquid propellant rocket engines (using kerosene with liquid oxygen (these technologies will soon be 70 years old!)).
        And then something liberoids painfully began to shout a lot about Russia as a "gas station country".
        In space engines WE ARE BEST !!!
      3. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian April 20 2016 10: 59
        -1
        Not only the United States. Who is indicated on the Chinese maps for Transbaikal?
      4. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K April 20 2016 11: 02
        0
        Quote: rotmistr60
        It doesn’t matter, copied or invented by yourself. The important thing is that another country can get hold of the United States at any point.
        able to reach any corner of the United States

        Do not forget that they can reach us, even to the western borders. This is much more upsetting for me, because our border with China is land and they can, after nuclear strikes, move a two hundred million army. We do not even have such a population with infants. And the second echelon after the draft will again move another two hundred million army. And while they still have the population to work for the war and feed both the army and the workers.
        And with America, well, they will launch nuclear missiles, well, some of them in America have been reached. And then what? They do not have sea transport to carry out a large-scale landing operation.
        A retaliatory or preemptive nuclear strike from America is inevitable.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets April 20 2016 11: 27
          0
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Do not forget that they can reach us, even to the western borders.

          The MRBM will be enough for them to shoot through the territory of the Russian Federation to the western borders. And another question: China is actively buying high-tech enterprises in the United States, will they really shoot at their property? These are links to the PRC's missile armament. Who cares, there is a book on the Internet by Yu. Vedernikov, "The Red Dragon of the Chinese Navy." http://army-news.ru/2011/07/kitajskie-rakety-dongfeng/
          http://army-news.ru/2011/07/kitajskie-rakety-dongfeng/
          1. DMB_95
            DMB_95 April 20 2016 12: 08
            -1
            Quote: Amurets
            Quote: Алексей_К
            Do not forget that they can reach us, even to the western borders.

            To the western borders to shoot through the territory of the Russian Federation and they have enough BRDS. And another question? China is actively buying up high-tech US enterprises, will they really shoot at their property?

            Why should the Chinese strike a nuclear strike on Russia if they need our territory NOT radioactive, and if they are guaranteed to be destroyed by our missiles?
            1. Amurets
              Amurets April 20 2016 12: 55
              +1
              Quote: DMB_95
              Why should the Chinese strike a nuclear strike on Russia if they need our territory NOT radioactive, and if they are guaranteed to be destroyed by our missiles?

              So what are we arguing about? In principle, the PRC needs our territory, but only up to the Urals. That is, Siberia and the D.V. With our Ministry for the Development of the Russian Far East, they have already signed an agreement of intent to transfer enterprises of the chemical industry, metallurgy, and the construction materials industry from the PRC. that the eastern territories of the Russian Federation will quietly leave the PRC peacefully. Our government is doing everything so that the Russians would leave with D.V. Look how many people left D.V. But the Chinese enterprises in our territory will need labor. And the indigenous Far Easterners more than once already raised this topic. Do you think in vain the Japanese moved about the "Northern Territories" or the Chinese in vain talked about transferring their industry to our territory. No, not in vain. A holy place is never empty, and they do not need the European part of the Russian Federation. So turn on the logic and think , think hard about the statements in the EU that the Russian Federation owns great wealth and the intentions of the PRC to transfer its enterprises to our land. And the fight under the current policy of our government will be between the PRC and the EU, but without the participation of the Russian Federation.
              1. Karlovar
                Karlovar April 20 2016 16: 13
                0
                And how quietly they will seize land to the Urals ??? And why only to the Urals ??? What are they to Krasnodar and Stavropol, Rostov-papa, Crimea, the Caucasus, Smolensk region did not please ???? And by your logic, the Chinese lands should have long been quietly captured by the Americans, Europeans, Japanese, South Koreans, Taiwanese, Singaporeans through their investments (creeping) ....
            2. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian April 20 2016 12: 56
              -1
              The population is concentrated in the European part of Russia, as are the main government bodies. This is all superfluous to the Chinese. They need the untouched riches of the Asian part of Russia.
              they need our territory
            3. silver_roman
              silver_roman April 20 2016 14: 37
              0
              Nuclear weapons will not be used as an attacker.
              Much easier to protect economically while still having profit. And what's the point of starting a nuclear war, when it still can’t do without mutual damage ?!
            4. Karlovar
              Karlovar April 20 2016 16: 06
              0
              It is in this matter that the case of claims of patriots lies .... The Chinese, you see, you definitely need nuclear weapons to bomb in Russia, and then seize land for living (it turns out, it is necessary in a nuclear winter) ....
        2. lexx2038
          lexx2038 April 20 2016 11: 37
          +2
          I do not think that China would dare to fight a nuclear power, especially not with us or with fools. For the owners of advanced nuclear weapons, the amount of infantry goes by the wayside, especially geologically, the Chinese territory is very vulnerable and a few strikes on well-chosen places are enough and China will cease to exist. That we, that p! Indos, are able to organize such a retaliatory strike. But to bomb Russia before total destruction, it is very difficult, and it will work out.
          We can be taken only from the inside, all kinds of NGOs, funds - that’s what we need to be afraid and fight about.
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        4. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli April 20 2016 11: 40
          -2
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Quote: rotmistr60
          It doesn’t matter, copied or invented by yourself. The important thing is that another country can get hold of the United States at any point.
          able to reach any corner of the United States

          Do not forget that they can reach us, even to the western borders. This is much more upsetting for me, because our border with China is land and they can, after nuclear strikes, move a two hundred million army. We do not even have such a population with infants. And the second echelon after the draft will again move another two hundred million army. And while they still have the population to work for the war and feed both the army and the workers.
          And with America, well, they will launch nuclear missiles, well, some of them in America have been reached. And then what? They do not have sea transport to carry out a large-scale landing operation.
          A retaliatory or preemptive nuclear strike from America is inevitable.

          For reference: the Chinese in a short time can put under arms more than 100 million people. The population of Russia is about 148 million people.
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K April 20 2016 12: 12
            0
            Quote: Mama_Cholli
            For reference: the Chinese in a short time can put under arms more than 100 million people. The population of Russia is about 148 million people.

            Dear "Mama_Cholli". More than half of 148 million people are women. Another two-thirds of the remaining half are pensioners and children (there are now more than 40 million pensioners in Russia). We have a maximum of 24 million men for the army. At the same time, we will be left without breadwinners (farmers) and workers. A good ratio of 100 and 24, isn't it, right Russia with 24 million people will be able to defeat 230 million Chinese (only men who can be put under arms, and in China, after all, women also serve and not only as signalmen and nurses, as in Russia) ...
            1. Cartalon
              Cartalon April 20 2016 12: 24
              +1
              It’s good to be terrified of driving, 100 of millions of Chinese will go straight in the mountains in the valleys, they will eat what, they don’t have to fight with them, wait until some die and the rest rebellion, there is such a custom in the Chinese.
              1. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K April 20 2016 13: 38
                0
                Quote: Cartalon
                It’s good to be terrified of driving, 100 of millions of Chinese will go straight in the mountains in the valleys, they will eat what, they don’t have to fight with them, wait until some die and the rest rebellion, there is such a custom in the Chinese.

                What are 1.4 billion Chinese eating now? I will answer you 100 million. Chinese will eat what they eat now. Plus food captured on our territory. If you even know something about the Great Patriotic War of the 1941-1945, I will remind you that the Nazis exported many echelons of food and cattle from our occupied territories.
                Do you think that the Chinese are stupid and do not have special units involved in providing rear services?
                1. Cartalon
                  Cartalon April 20 2016 13: 48
                  -1
                  What kind of sales will they capture in Eastern Siberia? The Chinese can occupy Primorye, go to Baikal the rest is unscientific fiction
                  1. Karlovar
                    Karlovar April 20 2016 16: 20
                    -1
                    There are a lot of mushrooms, ferns, berries in the taiga ... though it is even more midges and ticks, well this is nothing, the main thing is to get grafted from tick-borne encephalitis and boreliosis ... Yes, and all moose, deer, wild boars, tigers, bears will be caught by driving ( how the army of Genghis Khan practiced) .... And all will be food!
            2. Mama_Cholli
              Mama_Cholli April 20 2016 15: 17
              +1
              (for Alexey_K)
              You first read what I wrote. I simply (supplemented) clarified the figures about the possibility of China in mobilization and the general population of Russia.
              And I did not dispute your statement about the size of the Chinese army and the population capable of becoming under arms in Russia.

              Learn to read already (thinking over what you read) before putting down and chew the cons that everyone knows.
              1. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K April 20 2016 19: 58
                0
                Quote: Mama_Cholli
                (for Alexey_K)
                You first read what I wrote. I simply (supplemented) clarified the figures about the possibility of China in mobilization and the general population of Russia.
                And I did not dispute your statement about the size of the Chinese army and the population capable of becoming under arms in Russia.

                Learn to read already (thinking over what you read) before putting down and chew the cons that everyone knows.

                I didn’t understand you, because this is not a clarification, but a significant understatement of the size of the army of China, which without much effort can reach two hundred millionth value.
                1. Mama_Cholli
                  Mama_Cholli April 21 2016 18: 19
                  0
                  Quote: Алексей_К
                  Quote: Mama_Cholli
                  (for Alexey_K)
                  You first read what I wrote. I simply (supplemented) clarified the figures about the possibility of China in mobilization and the general population of Russia.
                  And I did not dispute your statement about the size of the Chinese army and the population capable of becoming under arms in Russia.

                  Learn to read already (thinking over what you read) before putting down and chew the cons that everyone knows.

                  I didn’t understand you, because this is not a clarification, but a significant understatement of the size of the army of China, which without much effort can reach two hundred millionth value.

                  I read about the mobilization resource of China, so I did not cite the figures from the ceiling. And if you attract by ears, then you can indicate 500 and even 700 million. (Hitler was also in Germany). I just didn’t take it, which I also wish you ...
          2. Olegovi4
            Olegovi4 April 20 2016 12: 25
            +1
            Quote: Mama_Cholli
            can put under arms more than 100 million people.

            But what difference does it make to the "Voevoda" how many Chinese die immediately turning to ashes, and how many later from the consequences?
          3. Midshipman
            Midshipman April 20 2016 13: 00
            0
            Well yes. And arm them with what? There are not so many automatic machines in the world.
            1. Aleksey_K
              Aleksey_K April 20 2016 13: 45
              -1
              Quote: Midshipman
              Well yes. And arm them with what? There are not so many automatic machines in the world.

              Who told you that? The number of weapons in China is not known to anyone, only to the top leadership of China. If in Russia they still don’t know where to put the Kalashnikov assault rifle, starting with the AK-47, then in China, I think, there are thousands of times more of them. China itself makes Kalashnikovs and sells them to everyone, because their machine is cheaper.
              1. DMB_95
                DMB_95 April 20 2016 16: 11
                -1
                What kind of machines? It is clear that with the large-scale invasion of millions of PLA fighters, we will stop them with nuclear missiles, against which China has no missile defense. And the Chinese should understand this, not the same / diots. Non-nuclear military operations against China can only succeed in a local border conflict. Their generals are probably familiar with our Military Doctrine. It explicitly states that if it is impossible to defeat the aggressor with conventional weapons, Russia will use nuclear.
        5. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 April 20 2016 12: 31
          +2
          For Alexey_K
          Do not forget that they can get us too

          No one forgets about it, but that's just no while reasons for such concern. As for the Americans - they are so 100% sure that we will not be the first to launch, and at the fifth point they still climb.
        6. mvg
          mvg April 20 2016 12: 37
          +3
          Alexei, indeed, you have a difficult morning today .. The strength of the army in China is not 200 million, so 2-3 million, you should not be confused with the reserve .. But if the ground reserve is tightened, that is, the concept is a preventive strike, and for Jab in the drum, how many million 100 or 200 are there ..
          PS: Calm, no panic ..
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K April 20 2016 13: 18
            -2
            Quote: mvg
            Alexei, indeed, you have a difficult morning today .. The strength of the army in China is not 200 million, so 2-3 million, you should not be confused with the reserve .. But if the ground reserve is tightened, that is, the concept is a preventive strike, and for Jab in the drum, how many million 100 or 200 are there ..
            PS: Calm, no panic ..

            This is in Moscow - it was morning, and it was noon at my place.
            It doesn't take much to disrupt the military infrastructure - one exploded rocket with a thermonuclear charge to Moscow and several more at the alleged underground command posts. An army without leadership and communications is no longer an army. While Russia is "recovering" from this attack, the Chinese 1 million army will cross the border, at the same time starting a massive conscription of conscripts. Who will keep them on the Eastern borders, when we have the entire land army for the whole of Russia, only 2,5 thousand people.
            And about a hard day, so I think China is the enemy of the 2 number after the United States. This enemy is just waiting for a good moment to attack. The part in which I served was focused on military operations with China. And not in vain, because there are still Chinese maps with the territory of China to the Urals.
            1. Cartalon
              Cartalon April 20 2016 13: 50
              +1
              And in response there will be no blow, you write nonsense
            2. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa April 20 2016 20: 21
              +1
              Quote: Алексей_К
              To break the military infrastructure a lot is not necessary - 1 rocket burst with a thermonuclear charge to Moscow

              Why so little? The Yankees, and so, 20 were about to detach!
              Quote: Алексей_К
              a few more at the alleged underground control points.
              Let's say. But 5 strategic commands have already been created with their own OKP, ZKP, PKP, etc. And the RF Ministry of Defense has a VKP, FKP and I think 3 WKP pieces. The situation with the Commanders of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is approximately the same. You can control the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation from each
              All this denounces your next statement
              Quote: Алексей_К
              An army without leadership and communications is no longer an army.

              Now to the question of what
              Quote: Алексей_К
              While Russia is "recovering" from this attack ...
              At this point, the entire territory of Hina will be covered with nuclear mushrooms. So, the mobilization will certainly be disrupted.
              Quote: Алексей_К
              Who will keep them on the Eastern borders ... The part in which I served was focused on military operations with China.

              1. Your unit was related to the "cover" structure of the operational direction. This is in order to give time for the organization of "instrumental" impact on the enemy's railway.
              2. Units of the first operational echelon will fall on our eastern borders. But the reserves and mob resources (will die) "rest in peace" on their own, Khin's territory. In addition, there is a "miracle" remedy.
              I did not specifically mention the Sirena system, VKP and others
              means, which were mentioned on the pages of the site.
              But the potential danger, you are right, exists. hi
              Yours faithfully,
      5. drunkram
        drunkram April 20 2016 11: 04
        0
        we gave them such an opportunity
      6. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z April 21 2016 08: 43
        0
        Quote: rotmistr60
        It doesn’t matter, copied or invented by yourself. The important thing is that another country can get the United States anywhere.

        Chinese military tested the latest Dongfeng 41 ICBM (DF-41)

        The latest Chinese missile with a multiple warhead individual guidance can carry from six to 10 warheads over a distance of more than 10 thousand kilometers.

        I do not mind if the Chinese managed to create a missile with such a range, although a potential "partner" ...
        But it immediately became interesting, but where did they test the rocket at maximum range ?!
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 April 20 2016 10: 05
      +2
      how simple it is for mattress workers. if someone's army is improving it means it automatically poses a threat to mattress. well, and of course, all shit democracy around the world. And all people on the planet are in danger.
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 April 20 2016 10: 21
        +5
        offtop winked
        Training of the Air Force of the Russian Federation to participate in the parade dedicated to the 71st anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War
        RT is broadcasting live.

        ps according to FM news, Russia in The Hague won the case against Yukos (about 50bn)
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre April 20 2016 13: 08
          +1
          And last year, with the rest of the great part of the parade, I liked the final song the most.

          A very good point was made. Or rather an exclamation point with an ellipsis. good
    3. Altona
      Altona April 20 2016 10: 14
      +1
      Quote: Gerfalcon
      The Chinese do not have the troubles in copying, but it’s hard for them to come up with a fundamentally new one ...

      --------------------
      Now coming back in yesterday. If they have rockets flying and all that, do they still need our rocket engines? Which on kerosene, if not mistaken. The article was about technology barter yesterday. We give them engines, they give us electronic components that are protected from radiation.
    4. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K April 20 2016 10: 45
      -2
      Quote: Gerfalcon
      The Chinese do not have the troubles in copying, but it’s hard for them to come up with a fundamentally new one ...

      What’s new here? Three or two steps, a round pipe, a streamlined nose, rear engines and a starting support, a wheeled transport system (by the way, the last launch was from a railway platform).
      You probably also know the internal structure and manufacturing techniques of the Chinese? So share it with your readers! And for the Chinese, offer something new that no one else has. This will be NEW!
    5. Amurets
      Amurets April 20 2016 11: 06
      0
      Quote: Gerfalcon
      The Chinese do not have the troubles in copying, but it’s hard for them to come up with a fundamentally new one ...

      But what fundamentally new can you come up with in a ballistic missile? New types of fuel? The only thing you can create new is the warhead. New missile defense systems, new warheads. The rest, in my opinion, is already created.
    6. ava09
      ava09 April 20 2016 12: 03
      +2
      Quote: Gerfalcon
      The Chinese do not have the troubles in copying, but it’s hard for them to come up with a fundamentally new one ...

      These missiles are an instrument of geopolitical influence. If this tool works, the task is completed. And how this tool is created is already secondary. Everything and at all times something, yes copy, it affects the lack of brains, time, money, and sometimes the very meaning of inventing something. The ultimate purpose of building a bicycle is not to invent it, but to ride it ...)
    7. Karlovar
      Karlovar April 20 2016 15: 53
      -1
      I will paraphrase the words of M. Boyarsky from the movie "A Man from the Boulevard of the Capuchins": This country will be destroyed by the national question, arrogance on an empty stomach and with a bare ass .... For general development: up to the Opium Wars (170 years ago), the Chinese economy was the first in the world for millennia. Until the 16th century AD, China's science and technology were unmatched in the world for millennia ... But China made a fatal mistake by adopting a policy of self-isolation at the peak of its power (pride prevailed), as well as Japan, but the Japanese woke up in time (the Great Britons and the Americans helped them) and canceled the policy of self-isolation, went into the world ... The Chinese went into the world since the time of Mao, mainly from Deng Xiaoping ... correct the mistakes of the past ..., and very effectively ... They just restore their natural historical state of the world championship, it's only a matter of time ...
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian April 21 2016 02: 21
        0
        And how many millennia has science existed?
        for millennia
  2. Same lech
    Same lech April 20 2016 10: 00
    +5
    The headache for the Americans increased ..
    In the SOUTH CHINA SEA, now the US aircraft carriers can’t walk around ... the warheads on your head in WASHINGTON CLINTON are not even an hour ...
    she said something there that if elected to the presidency, she would force the Chinese to follow the string ... it seems that CHINA disagrees.
  3. Sluggish
    Sluggish April 20 2016 10: 00
    +1
    Strange message: usually they always write a successful test or a failed one. And the news is not clear.
  4. loginovich
    loginovich April 20 2016 10: 01
    +3
    Quote: Gerfalcon
    The Chinese do not have the troubles in copying, but it’s hard for them to come up with a fundamentally new one ...

    The trouble is that so many copies are stamped that mother does not grieve.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 20 2016 10: 05
      +1
      The trouble is that so many copies are stamped that mother does not grieve.


      This will not be the case ... the main thing is that the quality is ...
      otherwise imagine if they start to go astray and take a direction somewhere to LONDON above our heads ... then we will have to hold our breath.
      1. ARS56
        ARS56 April 20 2016 10: 14
        +1
        Do not worry. The directions of attacks on the Anglo-Saxons, we with China will share for maximum efficiency, and even duplicate. And why does China need London when Japan is at hand, not to mention the main enemy - the United States?
        1. Stena
          Stena April 20 2016 12: 50
          0
          Quote: ARS56
          Do not worry. The directions of attacks on the Anglo-Saxons, we with China will share for maximum efficiency, and even duplicate. And why does China need London when Japan is at hand, not to mention the main enemy - the United States?

          And in addition to the above, there is also nuclear France, which is not a member of NATO. And there is reason to believe that its missiles can also fly to Britain and the United States ...
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa April 20 2016 21: 38
            +1
            Quote: Stena
            And there is reason to believe that its missiles can also fly to Britain and the United States ...

            “Dad, are there aliens?”
            - No. It is fantastic! (with)

            If this is not an intergalactic secret, then tell me: what are the reasons? And then I'm lost in conjecture!
          2. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian April 21 2016 02: 24
            0
            France is a member of NATO and Britain bombing is for them as if Paraguay bombed Uruguay.
            nuclear France, which is not a member of NATO
      2. hydrox
        hydrox April 20 2016 10: 41
        +2
        Hehe ...
        It turns out that not everything can be copied, even with the original.
        Remember about the MiG-25, hijacked to Japan :: disassembled, copied, assembled, and the plane was just able to take off the ground ...
        1. Mister22408
          Mister22408 April 20 2016 10: 52
          +1
          Forgot to carefully file ... smile
        2. mav1971
          mav1971 April 20 2016 12: 34
          +3
          Quote: hydrox
          Hehe ...
          It turns out that not everything can be copied, even with the original.
          Remember about the MiG-25, hijacked to Japan :: disassembled, copied, assembled, and the plane was just able to take off the ground ...


          And can you get at least some facts about the fact that the MIG-25 Japanese-Americans copied, collected and it flew?

          Well, don’t come up with nonsense then ...
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar April 20 2016 16: 32
            0
            It’s in vain that you, people, probably personally flew to Japan on such a trip to see this shame of the Japanese aircraft industry, and at the same time drove, go, a used copy of the disgrace of the Japanese automobile industry .....
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92 April 20 2016 10: 18
      +7
      Quote: loginovich
      Quote: Gerfalcon
      The Chinese do not have the troubles in copying, but it’s hard for them to come up with a fundamentally new one ...

      The trouble is that so many copies are stamped that mother does not grieve.

      There are suspicions that China once acquired the technology to launch ICBMs from rolling stock in Ukraine, where in the Soviet era the Molodets missile launcher with the RT-23UTTH missile was precisely developed. DF-41: Chinese response to our Barguzin.
      An expert at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, a specialist in the Chinese defense industry Vasily Kashin remarks: it is known that the DF-41 is a more powerful and heavier missile than the Chinese DF-31A, which, in turn, is conditionally comparable to the domestic missile of the Topol mobile complex "M."
      1. VP
        VP April 20 2016 10: 27
        +2
        Yes, it’s not critical for them to have railway platform installations, they have dug several thousand kilometers of underground tunnels that nobody really knows anything about, they lit up only after some earthquake after a piece was exposed.
  5. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 20 2016 10: 20
    0
    China skillfully overpowered military technology from Russia and continues to do so.
    But in the opposite direction, the technologists we need do not arrive.
    For example, the production of microcircuits to which the West has imposed an embargo.
    Mutually beneficial cooperation between Russia and China is beneficial to China and our "effective" managers ...
    1. Stena
      Stena April 20 2016 10: 41
      +5
      Quote: Pvi1206
      China skillfully overpowered military technology from Russia and continues to do so.

      What exactly did he "squeeze"? Figures, pliz, in the studio.
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar April 20 2016 16: 37
      -1
      If their Chinese doesn’t fly, doesn’t swim, doesn’t drive, microcircuits are disposable, then what technologies do we expect in the opposite direction? But they (the Chinese) do not have them (the Chinese) ....... And why be offended by them? And the Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, Singaporeans also do not have any technology, they handle everything with hoes ....
  6. VP
    VP April 20 2016 10: 24
    0
    Why is it new, why is it not indicated?
    ICBMs flying on 10 and more than thousands they had before, even for basing on submarines, with shared ones, for example, JL-2
    What is the novelty?
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish April 20 2016 10: 37
      0
      This is the third generation, which means they are more accurate, more powerful electronic protection, an advanced system for overcoming pro.
      1. VP
        VP April 20 2016 10: 56
        0
        Well, they and JL-2 are still fresh, ten years old, in my opinion.
        They stuffed something new into this, I would like to know what exactly is the novelty.
        Although yes, it can be said right away that this probably has Beidou guidance, but it wasn’t in the previous ones - they launched their positioning system for the whole year three or four, while they plan to bring it to the global level by 2020 as a regional satellite constellation.
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K April 20 2016 11: 49
      -1
      Quote: VP
      Why is it new, why is it not indicated?
      ICBMs flying on 10 and more than thousands they had before, even for basing on submarines, with shared ones, for example, JL-2
      What is the novelty?

      The novelty is that it passed the rocket test. No failure is reported, which means it was successful.

      Interestingly, you, too, are outraged when articles like: "The Northern Fleet is preparing for the exercise of heterogeneous forces" is written on the VO. There is nothing new here, as if there were no exercises at all in the Northern Fleet. Or - "" Admiral Essen has completed state tests. " This is how all ships undergo state tests. And here is the latest supernews - "In the Amur Region, a motorized rifle unit was alerted as part of an inspection." In the army, exercises are constantly held, WHAT'S NEW HERE?
      Nothing new, it's just a fait accompli that is covered in the news.
      1. VP
        VP April 20 2016 12: 54
        +1
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Interestingly, you, too, are outraged when VO writes articles like: "The Northern Fleet is preparing for the training of heterogeneous forces."

        I pass such news by the eye.
        In general, I went to this news to find out something about the new Chinese ICBM, except that it was launched. But ...
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa April 20 2016 22: 09
          +2
          Quote: VP
          I went to this news to learn something about the new Chinese ICBM, except that it was launched. But ...

          April 7.04, I tried to say something about her. But it seems left unheard.
          I repeat my post:
          ... it makes sense to see the history of creation and performance characteristics of the DF-41 itself.
          China began work on the DF-41 in 1984 (project 204) to hit targets throughout the United States. This missile should replace the DF-5 liquid ICBMs.
          In 1991, the required solid fuel was created; in 1994, a “ballistic test” of the rocket was conducted. Then the full-scale development of ICBMs began, which took at least 10 years.
          In 1999, in honor of the 50th anniversary of the founding of the PRC, it was planned to show the rocket at a military parade, but the CPC Central Military Commission rejected the show, because "the launcher's auto chassis was not yet ready."
          In the same year, a computer simulation of "fire tests" was conducted with a simulated strike on targets in the United States, which was considered successful.
          According to the "partners", the missile has three solid-propellant stages, is equipped with from 6 to 10 nuclear warheads of individual guidance, the maximum range exceeds 10 thousand km. The ICBM transport and launcher is based on a specially designed SX-4320 auto chassis.
          The length of the ICBM 15 m, the diameter 2 m, the launch weight 25t (?) (The length and mass of the missile are clearly underestimated - “VP”), the mass of the warhead 1200 kg (can be equipped with a monoblock warhead with a capacity of 300 kt or 6 warheads weighing 200 kg and power 30 ct).
          Start-up time for 3-5 minutes (standard - 6-7 minutes).
          Design Accuracy (CVO): 100-200 m.
          It is reported that nuclear warheads for the new ICBMs are a “transition product” until more advanced - compact, light and powerful - warheads are developed.
          The launch of a rocket can be made both from mine launchers, and from mobile to auto chassis. The creation of a railway launcher is not excluded.
          CHARACTERISTICS
          - firing range, (km) 12000 - 15000
          - firing accuracy (KVO), (m) 100-200
          - Military equipment: RGCH IN (Number x power of warheads, Kt):
          1) - equipment: 1 x 1 Mt; 2) - equipment: 10 x 90–150 (20) ct.
          - The thrown weight (kg): 2500
          - Number of steps: 3
          - engine type: RDTT
          - Dimensions (m): Length - 21,0; L max housing (m) -2,25
          - Starting weight (kg): 80000
          - Launcher: mobile, wheeled.
          - Chassis PU: SX-4320
          - Start-up preparation time (min): 3-7

          Source: http://nevskii-bastion.ru/df-41/
    3. kapitan92
      kapitan92 April 20 2016 12: 59
      +4
      Quote: VP
      What is the novelty?

      The test of the DF-41 ICBM was carried out by the 2nd artillery corps of the People’s Liberation Army of China (PLA) on July 24, 2012, and in the near future strategic long-range missile forces, including the mine-based ICBMs DF-5A, DF-31 and DF- 31A mobile-based will be complemented by this new mobile solid-fuel ICBM. ICBM DF-31 with a range of 7200-8000 kilometers is equipped with a single-warhead warhead and when launched through the United States can only reach Alaska. DF-31A missiles with a range of 10 thousand kilometers and DF-5A with a range of 13 thousand kilometers are also equipped with monoblock warheads, but they can hit any region of the continental United States. In principle, the DF-31A ICBM can be equipped with an RGM IN with three warheads, but in this version its flight range will not be enough to reach the main territory of the United States.
      Read more: http://vpk-news.ru/articles/13343
      Range of up to 14 thousand km, up to 10 rpg with ind. guidance, a new guidance system.
      1. VP
        VP April 20 2016 14: 21
        0
        Thanks for the tip. hi
  7. Engineer
    Engineer April 20 2016 10: 28
    0
    Oh, I see they already reduced their range. Apparently experts laughed at unrealistic numbers.
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K April 20 2016 14: 00
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      Oh, I see they already reduced their range. Apparently experts laughed at unrealistic numbers.

      The writer wrote this on VO with a mistake. In America, they think differently: "According to Jane's Defense Weekly, the missile's range is from 10 to 14 km."
      Our writer simply reduced to 10 thousand km.
  8. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn April 20 2016 10: 34
    +2
    Novelty, respected Expert, in that. that the Chinese are not limited to the OSX-2 and got fairly advanced mobile systems on the railway. and auto platform? In addition, already worked out in the technological and flight test plan, that is, ready for mass continuous production? What to us. to the Russians, I wish!
    1. VP
      VP April 20 2016 10: 58
      -1
      Quote: KudrevKN
      Novelty, respected Expert, in that. that the Chinese are not limited to OSV -2

      Do you think this is new?
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K April 20 2016 11: 20
      0
      Quote: KudrevKN
      Novelty, respected Expert, in that. that the Chinese are not limited to the OSX-2 and got fairly advanced mobile systems on the railway. and auto platform? In addition, already worked out in the technological and flight test plan, that is, ready for mass continuous production? What to us. to the Russians, I wish!

      In peacetime, in accordance with the treaty, Russia cannot mass-produce additional ballistic missiles, only to replace old ones. Only strained relations with America will allow us to begin mass production of the latest missiles, but America will also have free hands.
  9. Stena
    Stena April 20 2016 10: 42
    +1
    Tell me, is the platform (like "centipedes") a Chinese development or is it bought where?
    1. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 April 20 2016 12: 29
      0
      Quote: Stena
      this is a chinese development

      naturally. they only do Chinese))). well, of course this is the development of Soviet complexes. plus Belarusians are now "friends" with teahouses.
  10. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 20 2016 10: 47
    +1
    "Threatening Washington" - read "Threating the public that drives that Washington." Why isn't Dallas or Chicago the threat? Rats, their jeans closer to the ass.
  11. antiexpert
    antiexpert April 20 2016 11: 09
    0
    and the Chinese warheads, that is, for such a missile?
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar April 20 2016 16: 42
      -1
      No, of course ... They start them (warheads) with nitroglycerin ...., this fact is clear to everyone here ......
  12. aviator1913
    aviator1913 April 20 2016 12: 38
    0
    The bad news is that for the US, that for us.

    The presence of a ballistic missile of such a level in a not entirely friendly country, which borders with us, and not with the USA, is also dangerous for us.

    YES now they are our imaginary allies, but if they happen, they can become enemies just as quickly, and then these missiles will already be a problem for our missile defense.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar April 20 2016 16: 45
      0
      And the presence of a not entirely friendly country (RF), bordering them (the Chinese), and not the USA, ballistic missiles of this level is also dangerous for them ???????
  13. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad April 20 2016 13: 59
    0
    It's hard to be a "hegemon", everyone pokes their fingers at you and whispers behind your back. lol
  14. kapitan92
    kapitan92 April 20 2016 14: 48
    +6
    Quote: VP
    Yes, it’s not critical for them to have railway platform installations, they have dug several thousand kilometers of underground tunnels that nobody really knows anything about, they lit up only after some earthquake after a piece was exposed.

    China has a powerful railway network of about 120 thousand km, of which 16 thousand km are high-speed railways. About 3 thousand km of underground tunnels for mob. complexes.
  15. Verdun
    Verdun April 20 2016 15: 29
    +2
    The Chinese Dragon may be unhurried, but he cannot hold wisdom and perseverance.
    1. antiexpert
      antiexpert April 20 2016 18: 47
      0
      China
      do not confuse wisdom and a knee-elbow pose with petroleum jelly)))
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 20 2016 22: 33
      +1
      Quote: Verdun
      The Chinese Dragon may be unhurried, but he cannot hold wisdom and perseverance.
      And while he is friends with the Russian bear against the White-headed chicken!
  16. fivanec
    fivanec April 20 2016 21: 11
    0
    Quote: Amurets
    And the battle under the current policy of our government will be between China and the EU, but without the participation of the Russian Federation.

    Golden words, just to complicate things: in the future we will have to choose whether to become a NATO mobilization reserve or a raw material appendage of China. Nuclear weapons will sooner or later be banned, and self-isolation in favor of nationalism will go beyond political freedom. I am 26 and I risk to see some scenario, I hope it will not be the "Russian world".