A link of fighter-bombers and fuel-servicing aircraft will be based on Alexandra Land

On the eve of the visit to the Arctic Island of Alexandra Land was made by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. As already reported, "Military Review", Sergei Shoigu inspected the construction of the administrative residential complex "Arctic Trefoil", and also checked the degree of readiness of air defense systems deployed on the island.

It became known about the plans for the deployment of Alexandra on a permanent aviation groupings. We are talking about fighter-bomber and tanker aircraft.

Press Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation quotes a statement by the commander of the North fleet - The Joint Strategic Command "North" of the Russian Federation of Vice Admiral Nikolai Evmenov:

Here the link "dryers" - Su-34 or MiG-31 fighters, as well as Il-78 tankers will be based. The island is building a year-round project year-round runway with 2,5 kilometers per 42 meters.

According to Vice-Admiral Evmenov, this will allow landing both the fighter link and the tanker aircraft. In addition, as Nikolai Evmenov put it, the presence of such an airfield "will allow to increase the arm" (that is, the range) in the Far North.

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[avvg]

All this pleases us that we will not give the Arctic to anyone. We have with what and with whom to protect our interests in the Arctic.

[Error]

NATO will now have to get used to fly around our lands on a big udolenii

[BilliBoms09]

NATO will now have to get used to fly around our lands on a big udolenii

Even this is not the main thing, Greenland, where one of the main components of NORAD is located, is hit by our Su 34. And it will be convenient to refuel our tactical and strategic aviation, without flying over half of Europe.

[_Vladislav_]

Everything is correct. Russia takes advantage of the icebreaker fleet.
It is clear that this whole company is not only strategic planning taking into account military threats, but also a struggle for RESOURCES.

Quote: BilliBoms09

even this is not the main thing, Greenland, where one of the main components of NORAD is located, is hit by our Su 34

This is far from the main goal, to maintain a military base in such climatic conditions, only to one day (probably, maybe) to strike at NORAD is not profitable and expensive. The main goal of course is resources.

And there are a number of difficulties.
1. It is very expensive to extract resources there, oil in particular, due to the lack of technology available to the West. Production technology in extreme conditions of hard-to-recover oil. Technologies that make such mining profitable. The West understands this, incidentally, there are cases of refusal by a number of Western companies to work with Russian companies to develop fields.

2. The West understands this, and in principle, this does not itch much at the expense of the Arctic as a whole.
3. The West believes that at the time when Russia can organize full-scale energy production in the Arctic, Western countries will be able to develop and introduce alternative energy sources, which will make traditional energy carriers much less popular.

P.E. a lot of oil is good, but a lot of oil is even better - but Russia needs to look towards the alternative.
P.E. It’s clear that the whole company in the Arctic is a purely pursuit of resources.

[weksha50]

Quote: BilliBoms09

And it will be convenient to refuel our tactical and strategic aviation, without flying over half of Europe.

The only question is the organization of the delivery and storage of fuel ... It's not just one barrel or tank ...
Well, and accordingly, we need air defense systems ...

In general, this is only the beginning, it will grow little by little ...

PS For some reason, it seems to me that the planned deployment of tankers will strain Pentagon generals more than the presence of a Su-34 link ... They will again yell about the expansion and aggression of Russia ...

[cniza]

Big politics will be decided in the Arctic, so get ready.

[Rav075]

Already hear NATO squeaking

[Imperialkolorad]

Quote: Rav075

Already hear NATO squeaking

Now their manual ecologists are again excited about the difficult fate of polar bears or other representatives of the fauna.

[gergi]

Let them even squeak, even howl. On their land, even along, even across. We do what we want. Our country is located so well that hundreds of bases around the planet are not particularly needed. This is the center of the world. Where necessary, there we get it. And Russia's arms are becoming longer and more muscular.

[Cossack Ermak]

And in what archipelago is the land of Alexandra?

[BilliBoms09]

And in what archipelago is the land of Alexandra?

Franz Josef, it seems Father Alexander was named after his wife.

[Dmitry Potapov]

My heart aches, for good this news carries out an analogy with the might of the great USSR.

[Rusfaner]

Quote: Cossack Ermak

And in what archipelago is the land of Alexandra?

Franz Josef Land.

[Tatar 174]

There, about 400 km to Svalbard. and to the North Pole - 900km.

[Same lech]

A link of fighter-bombers and fuel-servicing aircraft will be based on Alexandra Land

Getting ready to fight for the resources of the ARCTIC ...
Americans, for their part ...

The United States deployed F-15 fighter jets in Iceland and the Netherlands April 03 16:16 2016 From Isheev Roman Bogdanovich At the same time, no less than 350 US Air Force personnel were transferred to Europe. The United States sent an F-15 fighter group to Iceland and the Netherlands because of the "activity of the Russian military" in the region, CNN reports on Sunday. It is assumed that the aircraft will remain in ev Top Publications | TopRe http://topre.ru/2016/04/03/ssha-razmestili-v-islandii-i-niderlandah-istrebiteli-
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[iliitchitch]

The stronger our Arctic grouping, the fewer "great Arctic powers", otherwise the Nippons are already making claims. She's not stupid to rummage in someone else's closet, her hand is sticky.

[Rusfaner]

In my opinion, the runway should be 4,5 km so that the "bears" and "swans" returning "from around the corner" have a jump airfield, if they have problems. Still, pull 1000 km less.

[iliitchitch]

Well this is permafrost, what else is 4.5 km, with what they are building, there will be eternal annual torment. But the experience, of course, is unique.

[Pavel Tsybai]

They are able to build our own on permafrost, they upgraded the strip in Pevek itself, there one trick-base is poured very quickly (so that the permafrost does not float from the heat of concrete) and fall asleep with earth, and then there’s nothing to be done.

[Nahum]

Quote: iliitch

This is permafrost

There are rocks, not permafrost. But you should be more careful with nature. The whole North is crammed with diesel barrels, only now they have begun to collect, press and take them out.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Naum

There are rocks, not permafrost. But you should be more careful with nature. The whole North is crammed with diesel barrels, only now they have begun to collect, press and take them out.

Exactly ! The work began with a general cleaning, for which respect to the organizers. There have been many things that have been forgotten there since the days of the USSR.
Yes, if only rocks. Powerful excavators dig a hollow for something, and the strip is compacted with rubble, that's all the rocks (there was a Sunday broadcast on "Russia-24"), the polar soil is insidious, and what is there on the island in fact ... Good luck guys. If only some kakers didn't work. Eternal Galactic wanderers Tajiks have not migrated there yet, I hope.

[KOH]

We treat Nato with cigarettes ...))))))

[jjj]

I still smoked such. There was a saying: "The one who smokes" Severok "will not get gonorrhea".

[firefighter]

And How!?? Did it help?

[iliitchitch]

Quote: fire nick

And How!?? Did it help?

My neighbor is not. She is deceiving, advertising. Helped a lethal dose of extraordinary benefits from an experienced Aesculapius.

[weksha50]

Quote: CON

We treat Nato with cigarettes ...))))))

My father smoked them all his life, until the collapse of the Union ... Although there were some nanny cigarettes, but now he looked at the image of the pack - it even warmed up in my soul ...

[Dezinto]

For information:

[Blondy]

Nah, men, there will be a little over two years there.

[Abbra]

More for information: Alexandra Land - an island of the Franz Josef Land archipelago. Administratively part of the Primorsky district of the Arkhangelsk region of Russia. Located on the territory of the state natural reserve of federal significance "Franz Josef Land".

Since 1981, the Nagurskaya frontier post has been located on the island. Since 2007, the Arctic Shamrock military base has been under construction on the island. Since 2014, an air defense unit of the Russian Northern Fleet has been deployed on the territory of the base. The completion of construction is scheduled for 2016.

The Nagurskoye aerodrome is one of 13 aerodromes that will be restored for use in connection with the creation on December 1, 2014 of the Sever Joint Strategic Command

[weksha50]

Quote: DEZINTO

For information:

Mdaaaa ... Far and cold ... Well this is the northernmost point of service will be ...

It's time to establish a medal: "For services on the island of Alexandra" ...

[iliitchitch]

Quote: weksha50

It's time to establish a medal: "For services on the island of Alexandra" ...

There frost is much easier to tolerate. Well, half an hour, well, sixty degrees, and why? If it’s a blizzard, then yes, it’s hard. Dress for the weather, business. The fact that raw potato at minus 50 explodes in 3 seconds. - not true . Notched - 7-8. It strains the lack of oxygen, it is not felt every second, but it hits the brain fairly hard, as you fly to the mainland. And the guys there create excellent conditions, only training in the fresh air should not be canceled. Tea is not tomatoes in the greenhouse.

[en 45]

I watched the news story on "Vesti 24" on Saturday, and they were talking about the construction of the complex. Our tricolor is visible from the images from space. http://www.vesti.ru/videos/show/vid/677027/#
Russia is building XNUMXst century military bases in the Arctic. Six military garrisons will ensure the security of our borders in high latitudes. The northernmost base is located on Alexandra Island, Franz Josef Land Archipelago. For its unusual shape, the ultra-modern structure was named "Arctic Trefoil". The peculiarity of the base is complete autonomy.

[en 45]

Watch the video !!!: http://www.vesti.ru/videos/show/vid/677027/#

[Knight Rider]

Quote: en 45

Watch the video !!!: http://www.vesti.ru/videos/show/vid/677027/#

We saw ... It was filmed when it was still a polar night. Here's a fresher video with Shoigu http://www.vesti.ru/videos/show/vid/677275/

[UVB]

A link of "dryers" - Su-34 or MiG-31 fighters will be based here

Aircraft have a completely different purpose! Do not decide on the tasks? It would be more logical to place both of them.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: UVB

Aircraft have a completely different purpose! Do not decide on the tasks?

It only says that the airfield will be able to accept different types of aircraft depending on the tasks that will be set.

[Knight Rider]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It only says that the airfield will be able to accept different types of aircraft depending on the tasks that will be set.

Is logical. The main thing is that there will be a permanent air base with two tankers and a link of combat aircraft

[kartalovkolya]

Great news! Of course there are plenty of difficulties, but ours did not come out of such situations with honor! And our construction in permafrost conditions was mastered at the beginning of the last century! Of course, the runway is a very serious engineering structure and has its own characteristics, but we learned to build in the north just as well as the Americans! Even when I was at the reconstruction of the Strategic Aviation airfield in the 70s. , in the Kiev region I often communicated with the candidate of technical sciences Vladimir Kulchitsky, who supervised our work from the research institute, and so from him I learned a lot of interesting things about our developments in the field of construction in high latitudes! (By the way, Vladimir Kulchitsky is the son of academician Kulchitsky, one from outstanding specialists in the construction of reinforced concrete structures and structures, according to whose textbooks we studied at one time)

[From Samara]

Norway is all nerves ...

[From Samara]

There would also be Poplar to place ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: From Samara

There would also be Poplar to place ...

What for?

[Nahum]

First - the air defense system. It is necessary to create a multipurpose base that would keep ALL the "high latitudes" under control.

[31rus2]

Dear, the news is really positive, when we want, we can do everything, that's the way it should be, about Shoigu's planes "leads partners by the nose", NATO will definitely react, and then we will post what is needed

[DenZ]

Quote: From Samara

There would also be Poplar to place

Poplars from central Russia and Siberia are calmly taken out where necessary,
In addition, the Northern Fleet has an SSBN. So poplar there is completely redundant.

[From Samara]

Quote: DenZ

Poplars from central Russia and Siberia are calmly taken out where necessary,
In addition, the Northern Fleet has an SSBN. So poplar there is completely redundant.

Flight time will be reduced, and significantly ...

[DenZ]

Quote: From Samara

Flight time will be reduced, and significantly ...

Sorry, you are so stubbornly broadcasting nonsense that it is simply amazing. I wrote that the Northern Fleet has SSBNs (submarines with strategic missiles). The range of their missiles (R-29rmu-2 "Sineva") is not less than that of Topol missiles. What other flying time do you keep broadcasting about ??? Do you even know that these rockets are flying through near space? I advise you to study the issue of the composition and capabilities of the strategic nuclear component (sea and land components), perhaps your comments will become more meaningful.

[Ruby]

Quote: iliitch

Well this is permafrost, what else is 4.5 km, with what they are building, there will be eternal annual torment. But the experience, of course, is unique.

There rocky soil already at a depth of a couple of meters. She won’t go anywhere. In the permafrost in general it’s enough in winter to have a flat area and you can plant anything on the ground.
In Yakutsk, a strip in general was built on a swamp, and there is the same permafrost. Nothing works.
In general, there is widespread practice in the north, in the winter roll out stripes on the ground so that heavy aircraft can be taken. And in some places they put it on ice.

[sub307]

Interestingly, they are building on the basis of the Nagurskoye auxiliary aerodrome for long-range aviation, which was closed at one time, or on a new basis, from scratch, so to speak?

[Spartanez300]

A good thought, but the main thing is that it would turn out not only on paper.

[user3970]

Pancake ! Crowd, what are you happy about? ! It's nice to sit on the couch. I served there. A separate polar radio-technical air defense regiment, military unit YuYa 03219. In Soviet times, there were points (companies) of our regiment with a radar station. These are the Graham Bell and Nagurskaya Islands. What is a point? These are three or four barracks, a power station and a radar station. Everything ! In the spring the military icebreaker "Baikal" (I think) came, unloaded coal, solarium, food, zip. Any construction only with the help of helicopters! Evacuation, for example, of a sick person, only by helicopter to Rogachi, there is an airfield and a hospital (is there a hospital in Beluzhka? How many kilometers are there? A couple of thousand? And this is nothing that you can fly not every week or even a month? The temperature on the islands is up to - 56 * S. And Rogachi in winter the breeze is such that the airplanes are blown off the runway and the visibility is 0. I do not scare. I served there, unlike you, the sofa ones. I’m not saying that this does not need to be built. The question is the price of construction! I don’t Can airplanes start at -50 * C and below and fly and land at zero visibility? What will they warm up with? Diesel or mini nuclear power plants? They can poke me with their nose, and there is construction equipment ... Starts in October and does not jam until April Is it possible to build something at -40-50 * C? The cemetery is supposed to be at the place of service? Something like that.

[flyer]

Homeland orders, once again eat to serve. And no one said it would be easy.

[sub307]

"By the fall of 2016, a new military town is planned to be built on the Alexandra Land Island. The project cost is 4,2 billion rubles."
Details here: http: //bmpd.livejournal.com/1207219.html

[Zomanus]

A truly worthwhile project would be to clean up the Arctic coast
from the waste of human life.
And then, as you look at the vast fields of empty fuel barrels ...

[AlexG83]

They have been removing all this for a long time, a recent report talked about it.

[Termit1309]

Quote: user3970

What is the point? These are three or four barracks, des and radar. All !

Is it possible to build something at -40-50 * C? Is the cemetery supposed to be a duty station? Something like this.

To serve at this point, ett z.o.p.a., I do not argue. But there are several other conditions. And already built a lot. And while there is no cemetery.

[kirieeleyson]

Over the past couple of years, ambitious projects have been saying quite, so to speak.
From what they plan to implement - 2 stripes of a field airfield, military camp, power station.
Monitoring node of the Northern Sea Route, in conjunction with the early warning radar station. I need to break through the money and effort there, but if everything is realized as planned, it will be just great.

[user3970]

Zomanus. By and large, on Novaya Zemlya it is necessary to build a foundry to utilize the iron accumulated over decades. But essentially new buildings ... This is equivalent to how to build a concrete runway at the North Pole. And the livelihoods of 400-500 people? And if the tooth is sick? appendicitis? An ulcer? A heart ? Injury? Will we operate ourselves? Do we use pliers? A plane only in a month! The weather does not allow! Self-medication experience in history is available. A little from the experience ... In Soviet times: high-quality food from a belly and for slaughter, for soldiers meat, butter, chocolate sweets on holidays. Officers came and fed in the soldiers' canteen - cooks were prepared by conscripts in high quality, and the portions were large. During the worsening weather in winter only on Novaya Zemlya Beluzhka, Rogachi (option 1, 2, 3) depending on temperature and visibility restrictions. When announcing to the squad 3 options, it was forbidden to enlist privately from the premises alone, when announcing option 2, the collective exit of the ordinary squads from the premises was already forbidden: they moved outdoors clutching with each other with their hands so that the wind would not blow away, And getting into the room first of all with their hands Diving into the crotch, warming the values ​​inside. Warm underwear and cotton pants did not save. And what can we say about option 1? The people. This is south! New Earth! What can I say about the ZFI! True, there are no such winds, but the temperature! Only residents of the Arkhangelsk and Vologda regions were taken into service. I don’t remember that someone was sick at my point, they died or were injured only by stupidity.

[flyer]

User3970, you probably remained in the twentieth century? And in the courtyard is already XXI .... Now the operations are carried out on board a flying airplane and on board a submarine .. Modular hospitals, modern equipment are realities. Pasatigi save for the garage))) Yes, and ground and airborne navigation equipment of transport aircraft stepped forward. Do not panic!))) Maybe you won’t go to serve)))

[Ruby]

Normally, everything will be there. A few days ago I watched a report about this construction site.
There will be a hospital, and caponiers for aircraft. The base is designed like this. that without special need no one goes out. All buildings are interconnected by galleries. Of course, it will be necessary to clean the strip constantly. As for the temperature, this is no matter how you twist the ocean. There and -40 rarity. This is in the continental regions of Siberia -50-55 normal in winter. And on the coast 30-40 and then not always. There is another misfortune, the wind. I got into Tiksi in a snowstorm, it’s not pleasant enough when the frost is 25 and the wind is 25-30

[Knight Rider]

In Soviet times, our fighters already flew there, on about. Graham Bell.

[user3970]

Thanks, KnightRider. Judging by the coverage of the season, the end of March and the beginning of April. It's light. The sun hides in early December and appears for several minutes in late March. So in the movie, the middle of spring at the ZFI. Already warm. And in winter, at the ZFI, the black sky and the northern lights are in several rows, but the newspaper under such lighting can be read, but with difficulty. And the temperature is yes, spring -32 * C, warm. And the snow is really not digging with a shovel, but sawed with a saw in blocks. We even made a bathhouse of such blocks, on the floor of the board and an iron barrel as a stove with stones, but on Novaya Zemlya, on the ZPI it is cold.

[iouris]

It remains to be clarified: how many sunny days there are per year.

[Bayun]

What I saw - IMPRESSES! Russia is building this 800 (!) Km from the pole. It can only be compared with the semi-mythical "New Swabia" of the Germans in Antarctica.

[Westet2]

Correct solution.! The entire Arctic should be protected. I hope such bases appear along the entire coast, and not just in the western part of Russia! 1!