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The power of the East: what is the military potential of Iran

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The power of the East: what is the military potential of Iran



In peacetime, the armed forces (AF) of the Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) consist of two separate structures: the army and the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC).

The command of the Armed Forces is carried out by the united General Headquarters of the Armed Forces, the supreme commander is the Head of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. In an emergency situation, the security forces are also at the disposal of the military leadership, which in peacetime are subordinate to the Ministry of the Interior.

The Army and the IRGC have their own ground forces, air force and naval forces. Formed according to the calling principle (with 18 years, service life - 21 months).

The structure of the IRGC includes a structure that performs strategic reconnaissance and sabotage functions - the special purpose forces “Kods”, as well as the forces of resistance “Basij”.

The task of "Basij" includes calling, promoting and carrying out training of civilians, whose contingents in the event of the outbreak of hostilities go to the recruitment of units of the IRGC and the formation of new combat militia units.

Strength

The total number of Iranian armed forces (excluding law enforcement forces) as of 2016 was over 520 thousand people (hereinafter, estimates of the number of forces and equipment are given according to the Military Balance directory, compiled by the International Institute for Strategic Studies, IISS). Army reserve is about 350 thousand people.

Foreign arms suppliers

Part of the weapons and military equipment of Iran - American and British, was received before the Islamic revolution 1979. In the first half of 1990's. Iran was one of the leading recipients of Russian weapons for all types of the country's armed forces.
According to the Soviet-Iranian intergovernmental agreements 1989-1991. Into the country were delivered:

- combat aircraft

- helicopters

diesel-electric submarines

-Tanks and armored personnel carrier

-Zen rocket systems

-aviation missiles

- ammunition, spare parts for military equipment

- license for production of T-72 tanks has been transferred

The military-technical cooperation of the Russian Federation and Iran was interrupted in 1995-2000. under US pressure, following the 2000-2007 biennium. Russia accounted for about 85% of all military imports of Iran.

In April, 2016 Russia supplied Iran with the first batch of C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems.

The Defense Ministry, which controls the Organization of the Defense Industry of Iran, is engaged in logistics of the Armed Forces. It consists of seven industrial groups producing weapon, ammunition and equipment for land forces of the army and the IRGC.

Ground forces

Army ground forces (number of 350 thous. Of military personnel, of which 220 ths. Are recruits) have more than 1600 tanks at their disposal, including:

-480 Russian-made T-72С units

-about 150 US MxNUMXA60 units

- about 100 British Chieftain ("Chieftain") Mk3 and Mk5

-order 540 units T-54 and T-55, etc.

-about 600 infantry combat vehicles (210 BMP-1, 400 BMP-2)

-more 640 armored personnel carriers (including 300 BTR-50 and BTR-60)

-Arms are also equipped with more 8700 artillery guns and installations.

Ground force aviation includes more than 200 helicopters, including:

-50 drums Bell AH-1J Cobra, "Bell AH-1-J Cobra"

-20 Heavy Transport Boeing CH-47C Chinook, "Boeing CH-47-Ci Chinook"

-25 units Mi-171

-78 light helicopters of different types

In service of ground defense air defense - about 180 anti-aircraft installations:

-ZSU-57-2 and Shilka

- several hundred anti-aircraft machine-gun systems

launchers of short-range Chinese missiles CSS-8 ("CS-Es-8"), etc.

- portable anti-aircraft complexes "Strela-3", "Igla-S", etc.

The ground forces of the IRGC comprise about 100 thousand troops. In peacetime, they are used as internal troops to maintain public order.

The command of the IRGC ground forces is also managed by the Basij resistance forces. According to official data, more than 12 million people underwent training in the Basij system, and within one month Basij could mobilize about 3 million militiamen.

In 2016, according to the Iranian news agency Fars, aviation units were created as part of the ground forces, where attack and transport helicopters for aerospace forces of the IRGC were transferred.

Naval forces


The Iranian Navy (18 ths. Military, including 2600 Marines) consists of:

-29 submarines, of which:

-3 diesel submarines of the project 877EKM "Halibus" of Russian production, delivery 1992-1996.

- the rest - ultra small submarines of the Iranian development "Kadir"

-69 surface warships, of which:

-7 Corvette British built

- the rest - rocket and patrol boats of various projects of French, American and Chinese construction

Also in the composition fleet includes:

-4 minesweeper

-24 amphibious assault ship

-order 40 auxiliary ships

- Sea aviation (2600 military) uses:

-3 Lockheed P-3 Orion Coastal Patrol Aircraft

-16 light aircraft

-order 13 transport helicopters Sikorsky S-61 Sea King ("Sikorsky Es-61 Sea King") and CH-53 Sea Stallion ("CE-X-53 Sea Station")

-17 light helicopters

The navy of the IRGC (20 thous. Military, including 5 th. Marines) has:

-113 patrol boats of various types

-4 amphibious assault ships

- a small number of auxiliary vessels

-Air Force

The Iranian Air Force has 30 thousand troops, including 12 thousand soldiers in the air defense forces.

In service around 330 combat aircraft:

-No less than 180 fighters

-43 units Grumman F-14 Tomcat, "Grumman EF-14 Tomcat"

-20 units Northrop F-5B Freedom Fighter, "Northrop EF-5-b Freed Fighter"

-24 units Chengdu F-7M Airguard, "Chengdu EF-7m Airgard"

-36 units MiG-29 of various modifications, etc.

-120 transport aircraft

-12 units IL-76

- about Lockheed C-19 Hercules 130 units, "Lockheed C-130 Hercules"

-11 units An-74ТК-200, etc.

as well as:

-to 30 Su-24MK front-line bombers

-64 units McDonnell Douglas F-4D / E Phantom II, "McDonnell-Douglas EF-4 Phantom-2"

- no less than 10 attack aircraft Su-25К / UBC

-5 Lockheed P-3 Orion patrol aircraft, Lockheed P-3 Orion

- about 150 training aircraft

-more than 30 helicopters of various types (including at least 2 units CH-47 Chinook)

According to IISS experts, due to the lack of spare parts, and also due to physical obsolescence, only 60% of US aircraft are in combat formation, and up to 80% of the total number supplied by Russia.

The air defense forces are armed with anti-aircraft missile systems and systems:

-C-75 Dvina

-C-200 Angara

-C-300 (supply 2016 g.)

-25 TOR-M1 ADMS (delivery under 2005 contract)

-FM-80 Chinese production, etc.

Aerospace forces of the IRGC are responsible for the country's strategic missile weapons. They have at least 22 mobile and at least 10 medium-range ballistic missile silos launchers:

-Shahab-3 (Shahab-3, Iranian copy of the North Korean Musudan rocket)

-Ghadr-1 ("Gadr-1")

-СБСД Sejil ("Sajil")

-o-tactical missiles Fateh-110 ("Fateh-110"), etc.

Law Enforcement Units

Under emergency conditions, border troops and security forces totaling from 40 thousand to 60 thousand people are transferred from the control of the Iranian Interior Ministry to the Armed Forces. The mobilization reserve of these structures has about 450 thousand people.
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  1. ImPerts
    ImPerts April 24 2016 07: 11
    +14
    Persians, those fruits. Now they are getting a little stronger after the sanctions and begin to rave about the ideas of the Achaemenids))) And there is reason to recall Turkey, which in theory should serve as a natural counterweight to the Shiite state. If it were not for American attempts to make a mess everywhere, now there would be stable secular Syria and Iraq, on whose loyalty the Middle Eastern scales would depend.
    In this scenario, the system would be in dynamic equilibrium and would not threaten a slide to a military confrontation.
    Now everyone will have to establish new rules and a new system of checks and balances.
    And the main thing for us is not to replay ourselves.
    1. Talgat
      Talgat April 24 2016 17: 26
      +2
      Quote: ImPerts
      Persians, those fruits. Now a little stronger after the sanctions and begin to rave about the ideas of the Achaemenids))


      I believe. that Iran is not trying to dominate its neighbors - like Turkey, for example - but is trying in every possible way to establish allied and friendly relations - and at the same time succeeds - the latter are Russia and Armenia, before that Kazakhstan, and Turkmenistan, in fact, also went towards Kazakhstan and Iran during the construction of the railway between us and Iran. Iran actively cooperates in all Caspian projects.

      It is not Iran that raves about the ideas of domination and aggression, but the USA and its allies



      Quote: ImPerts
      And there is reason to recall Turkey, which in theory should serve as a natural counterweight to the Shiite state


      Then I agree - Turkey is a geopolitical opponent and rival of Iran. It’s sad. that the US and NATO are using Turkey against Iran and Russia.

      And according to the article - some data are doubtful and incomplete - and there are not enough conclusions and summaries - what did the author want to say?

      probably many will agree. that even on the basis of the media it can be concluded that the Iranian armed forces are quite numerous, they can cause trouble to the aggressors when attacking Iran, but unfortunately due to the sanction and not quite right (I think forcibly - due to US pressure) Russia's position in some cases - not received in full modern Russian weapons. We had to do something ourselves - it's understandable - the level is still not the same

      The latest deliveries of the S-300 are the beginning of change. Probably the most critical areas will be closed with Russian weapons - air defense for example - less important types can be purchased from China - at a lower price. It is very likely that there will be a "smuggling" of technology from Russia and China - to strengthen Iran bypassing the sanctions
      1. Professor
        Professor April 24 2016 17: 31
        +7
        Quote: Talgat

        I believe. that Iran is not trying to dominate its neighbors - like Turkey, for example - but is trying in every possible way to establish allied and friendly relations - and at the same time succeeds - the latter are Russia and Armenia, before that Kazakhstan, and Turkmenistan, in fact, also went towards Kazakhstan and Iran during the construction of the railway between us and Iran. Iran actively cooperates in all Caspian projects.

        But you are however a comedian. Iran creeps into the affairs of neighbors and just crawls, then quarreled with everyone with whom it was possible. The Iranian military are in the capitals of 4 states ... Have you heard about the export of the Islamic revolution?
    2. goose
      goose April 25 2016 15: 12
      0
      For what information could get cons? Are there any complaints about the quality of the data? Be more adequate, trolls.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo April 25 2016 15: 15
        +2
        Quote: goose
        For what information could get cons? Are there any complaints about the quality of the data? Be more adequate, trolls.

        stop Please choose expressions of expression, the article is frankly illiterate negative Or do you want to debate about its content?
  2. Bongo
    Bongo April 24 2016 07: 17
    +26
    Put publications "-", since it does not carry any semantic meaning. No. Who needs dumb a simple repetition of false information taken is not clear where? The author does not own the topic negative There is no mention of the former Iraqi Mirage F1 and Su-22 and fighters of its own production based on the F-5E available in Iran. The figures for the composition of aircraft are absolutely untrue, and besides, the S-75 Dvina air defense system has never been delivered to Iran. There are Chinese HQ-2s and their own products based on them, and this is not a Soviet air defense system.
    1. Fatih88
      Fatih88 April 24 2016 07: 28
      +4
      As I understand it, the armed forces of Iran are basically a museum. Modern technology is very small. I think about the technique of ganibalism, too.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 April 24 2016 08: 44
        +8
        There, the main problem is that after the overthrow of the Shah, Iran was sanctioned, there is nothing to buy. Everything in the future, or flights from Iraq, or small purchases (the same T-72С), or cooperation with China, is most fruitful in the missile sector (С-802 and its entire family firmly established in Iran as the main RCC for the fleet, coastal complexes, including those hidden under civilian trucks) and UAVs (Iran has strike UAVs, for example, not in mock-ups, but in a series and even in the war in Syria and Iraq! Yes, simple Shahed 129, but it already exists).



        Here, behind, the camouflage system is visible, in the form of farms and an awning.



        Under the new systems, the UN introduced a moratorium on the supply of offensive weapons for 5 years. Therefore, without the approval of the UN (that is, the United States), it will not be possible to deliver a single plane or tank to Iran for another 5 years.
      2. kotvov
        kotvov April 24 2016 11: 37
        0
        ganibalizma is also not enough. ,,
        you obviously had in mind CANNIBALISM? otherwise the thought flashed by Hannibal. winked as far as I heard, they established their own production of spare parts, including aviation.
    2. godofwar6699
      godofwar6699 April 24 2016 08: 49
      +3
      most of the material has become misinformation
    3. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 April 24 2016 08: 54
      +7
      I didn't put a minus. But I agree with you. In addition to unreliable (to put it mildly) information about Iranian aviation, I was confused by the data on armored vehicles. Even during the Iran-Iraq war, Iran had much more armored vehicles (although not all of them were combat-ready). But after this war, despite all the sanctions imposed on it, Iran made efforts to modernize its tank (and not only its fleet). laughter is impossible to watch. But there were supplies of BTT, both from Russia and China.
      Here are other details on this subject:
      The tank fleet of Iran is extremely diverse. The most modern are the 480 Soviet T-72 and roughly the 150 own "Zulfikar", created on the basis of the T-72. There are also many old tanks - up to 250 English "Chief", 75 Soviet T-62 and 150 created on their base North Korean "Chonma-ho", 540 Soviet T-54 / 55 (including 200 modernized in Iran itself tanks 220 59 250 69 150 60 Chinese 1 168 48 Chinese 170 47 110 20 Chinese XNUMX XNUMX XNUMX XNUMX XNUMX XNUMX. In addition, XNUMX of the Scorpion British light tanks and XNUMX of their own Tosan tanks based on them are in service.

      Total 2500 MBT and medium tanks and 130 light tanks.
      For another BTT:
      Armed land forces consist 189 Brazilian BRM HER-9, 623 Soviet BMP (210 BMP-1, 413 BMP-2), about 700 BTR (up to 250 American M113A1 to 150 Soviet BTR-50 before 150 BTR-60, 140 own "Borag").

      Again, we see - about 1500 BBM units.
      The information was taken from a publication on the same site on July 23, 2014: http://topwar.ru/54800-armiya-irana-samaya-eklektichnaya-v-mire-podrobnee-http-r
      uspltru-world-armiya-irana-samaya-eklektichnaya-v-mire-11400html.html.
      It is possible that this information is somewhat outdated, but it is unlikely that the number of BTT fleets in Iran has changed much since then (rather increased, although it remained the same eclectic).
      It is difficult to judge the combat effectiveness of the modern Iranian army - the Persians did not take part in any large-scale conflicts after the Iran-Iraq war - the current operation in Syria does not count - it is mainly the IRGC special forces that operate there, and not the regular army of Iran. But already during the war with Saddam Hussein, Iranian soldiers demonstrated rather high fighting qualities (which were largely leveled out by the not very successful command - especially in the IRGC and Pasdaran units (which is not surprising that the militia is the militia, as well as the lack of a sufficient amount of equipment, due to the lack of supply of spare parts, etc. - an embargo in force and action! And also not the best service of the available equipment, for which one should "thank" the late Ayatollah Khomeini). However, those Iranian teenagers who received their first combat experience in that war by attacking " a living wave "through the minefields of the Iraqi army, have now grown up (those who survived), having the opportunity to receive an appropriate education and later could become officers in the current Iranian army, the IRGC and Pasdaran. And this is already serious. Iran is quite capable of becoming a regional power. Thanks to the US and the West, the secular Iraqi and Syrian who could have contained the ambitions of Iran's clerical rulers are gone. There is no one in the region to restrain Iran, except perhaps Turkey with its unpredictable Erdogan policy.
      I have the honor.
      1. Zfoni
        Zfoni April 24 2016 09: 26
        -1
        Israel is quite capable of holding back Iran’s ambitions in nuclear weapons and in Syria. It is known that the corps of the Guardians of the Iranian Revolution and Hizbal tried to capture the Syrian part of the Golan Heights, but were knocked out by Israeli air strikes
    4. sivuch
      sivuch April 24 2016 22: 33
      0
      And you read the blog of Yuri Lyamin. Here he on the Persians ate more than one dog
    5. goose
      goose April 25 2016 15: 14
      0
      Quote: Bongo
      There is no mention of the former Iraqi Mirage F1 and Su-22 and fighters of its own production based on the F-5E available in Iran. The figures for the composition of aircraft are absolutely untrue, and besides, the S-75 Dvina air defense system has never been delivered to Iran. There are Chinese HQ-2s and their own products based on them, and this is not a Soviet air defense system.

      Stop. During a storm in a glass, both air defense systems and aircraft from Iraq got there. SAM in small quantities.
  3. demiurg
    demiurg April 24 2016 07: 36
    +3
    Quote: Bongo
    Put publications "-", since it does not carry any semantic meaning. No. Who needs dumb a simple repetition of false information taken is not clear where? The author does not own the topic negative There is no mention of the former Iraqi Mirage F1 and Su-22 and fighters of its own production based on the F-5E available in Iran. The figures for the composition of aircraft are absolutely untrue, and besides, the S-75 Dvina air defense system has never been delivered to Iran. There are Chinese HQ-2s and their own products based on them, and this is not a Soviet air defense system.


    + I strongly agree. But Iran will soon have 100 billion greens that can be spent on "defensive" weapons. Most likely they will start with the air defense and the air force, then what is now in a terrible decline. Then the time will come for the ground forces.
    1. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 April 24 2016 08: 03
      +9
      No Valera, Iran will not have 100 lard. America will not release such a bold piece, even a third will squeeze it. Besides Iran’s armaments, there are big problems with civil aviation, the fleet is globally worn out. So, not everything is so rosy.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver April 24 2016 09: 41
        +6
        Quote: zadorin1974
        , Iran will not have 100 lard. America will not release such a bold piece

        An American court has already ruled that persons affected by terrorist attacks committed by Iran (directly or through client organizations such as Hezbollah or Hamas), or members of their families, are entitled to compensation from Iran. Previously, they could not receive, because the accounts were frozen, but as soon as they thaw it, you can come to the bank with a writ of execution and receive. And a lot of victims have accumulated since the expulsion of the Shah.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 April 24 2016 08: 45
      +1
      Air defense is possible. Air Force, Navy and Army no - offensive weapons are prohibited from purchasing 5 years of the UN. If there is a supply, then sanctions will come back, even tougher than before, this is prescribed and Iran agreed to this.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 24 2016 09: 20
        +1
        Yes, they are on the drum for these sanctions, the main thing is that now their accounts have thawed.
  4. Professor
    Professor April 24 2016 07: 46
    +9
    Well, what is the military potential? The author listed piles of scrap metal, but he did not mention military potential. Minus article. negative
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 April 24 2016 10: 32
      +1
      Professor, why are you so blasphemed, right up to the foreman? I haven’t been on the site for a long time.
      1. Dan4eG
        Dan4eG April 24 2016 10: 57
        0
        For all the Jews there is a judge.
        For liveliness. For the mind. For stoop.
        For the fact that the Jew shot at the leader.
        For the fact that she missed.
        1. Panikovsky
          Panikovsky April 24 2016 15: 37
          +4
          Quote: Dan4eG
          For all the Jews there is a judge.
          For liveliness. For the mind. For stoop.
          For the fact that the Jew shot at the leader.
          For the fact that she missed.

          Well, Huberman is already fed up here, and the old hooligan Jew has grown old and cried out, will you find a fresher argument?
      2. Professor
        Professor April 24 2016 12: 10
        +1
        For the fact that I do not piss in the wind. wink
        1. Panikovsky
          Panikovsky April 24 2016 15: 41
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          For the fact that I do not piss in the wind. wink

          and you urinate in the toilet, as civilized people do. hi
        2. Come on
          Come on April 25 2016 20: 29
          0
          Dear, you do not take the main thing to heart and do not leave. You are one of those commentators and bloggers who are worth looking into here. This time. And two, you could not write an article with pictures about the German AMAP ADS concept for protection, where besides KAZ, there is also armor and much more, as well as the range of applications. Well, compare it with Israeli systems. They say that now the best that is on the market is really better than Israeli products?
  5. Yak28
    Yak28 April 24 2016 08: 08
    -2
    You can recall the Arab-Israeli warriors, the war of Iraq with the USA where the army betrayed Saddam Hussein, who were scared and fled or surrendered. You can also look at the current as the Syrian army is fighting. In this connection, we can conclude that there are no Arabs or Persians arm, and they don’t know how to fight. And given that the armament of the Iranian army is not very large, it’s too early to talk about the serious military potential of Iran
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 April 24 2016 09: 00
      +15
      Of the minuses, only an extremely high percentage of losses of senior officers (colonel generals). It is.

      Otherwise, it fights quite well, better than the Syrian army, for example, despite the fact that the Iranians have only light weapons and equipment (no heavier than Safirs).

      In recent battles, 7 fighters of the 65 paratrooper brigade, including the colonel, were killed. But the combat mission was completed, the offensive of Ahrar, Nusra, Jeysh and the SSA failed.

      Fatimillon also fights well, both under Palmyra and in Aleppo. But there the losses are higher (only in the reflection of the 2 attack in Aleppo, more recently, more than 20 Afghans of Fatimion have died). However, again, the task was completed.

      When Nusra took Yeis on the same ledge in Aleppo, the Syrian army set a record for speed. And she would have run after Hader, but a Hazbola detachment (all died and no bodies, only 11 obituaries) was fighting in the hills, a combined detachment of Iranian and Iraqi volunteers (almost all died or were held captive). This required the Baboons to introduce new forces and clear the hills by the end of the day, and not go further to Hader.
    2. cheap trick
      cheap trick April 24 2016 11: 28
      0
      I don’t remember whose words it is, it’s kind of like an English general, you can’t defeat the Arab, just buy it!
    3. Kaiten
      Kaiten April 24 2016 13: 55
      +4
      Quote: Yak28
      You can recall the Arab-Israeli warriors, the war of Iraq with the USA where the army betrayed Saddam Hussein, who were scared and fled or surrendered. You can also look at the current as the Syrian army is fighting. In this connection, we can conclude that there are no Arabs or Persians arm, and they don’t know how to fight. And given that the armament of the Iranian army is not very large, it’s too early to talk about the serious military potential of Iran


      Judging by Syria, the Persians are still much better at war than the Arabs. Vaughn Assad's army has collapsed in fact, from the modern conscript army has slipped to the militia, and the Iranian "ksir" are fighting in full force.
  6. demiurg
    demiurg April 24 2016 08: 23
    +4
    Quote: zadorin1974
    No Valera, Iran will not have 100 lard. America will not release such a bold piece, even a third will squeeze it. Besides Iran’s armaments, there are big problems with civil aviation, the fleet is globally worn out. So, not everything is so rosy.

    Is it possible to dream? lol In any case, they will start with air defense and air force. What do they need civil aviation? Flies with less profitability, but flies the same. If there is parity in the sky, they will be able to wage a defensive war.
    Quote: Yak28
    In this connection, it can be concluded that you don’t arm Arabs or Persians, and they don’t know how to fight. And given that the arsenal of the Iranian army is not old in quantity, it’s too early to talk about the serious military potential of Iran

    Persians as a civilization a little younger than the Sumerians. So they know how to fight, otherwise they would have disappeared a long time ago.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver April 24 2016 09: 53
      +1
      Quote: demiurg
      Persians as a civilization a little younger than the Sumerians. So they know how to fight, otherwise they would have disappeared a long time ago.

      They were able once. Then the Arabs conquered and deceived them. And since then their successes in wars have been very dubious. Many, including Russians, beat them even under the kings. Azerbaijan seems to have been squeezed out of them.
      Yes, take at least the last war in which they officially participated, with Iraq. Iraq is an Arab country, and the last few centuries, the Arabs have not been beaten only by the lazy. Iran, despite the fact that their arsenals left from the shah, were bursting with the most modern Western technology at that time (some F-14s were worth it, the plane was 4 generations, and the Arabs had the third strength, and more and more the second and even like as the first still flew), with great difficulty, filling up the Iraqis with bodies, brought this war to a draw. Since then, Iranian technology has only worn out, they received practically nothing new because of sanctions.
      1. Kaiten
        Kaiten April 24 2016 13: 57
        +2
        Quote: Nagan
        Azerbaijan seems to have been squeezed out of them.

        And Dagestan.
  7. Yak28
    Yak28 April 24 2016 08: 34
    +6
    Quote: demiurg
    Persians as a civilization a little younger than the Sumerians. So they know how to fight, otherwise they would have disappeared a long time ago.

    As they say it was a long time and not true wink Remember how the Germans fought selflessly under Hitler, do you think the German soldiers are capable of such a thing now? And how the Greeks fought, the Romans can only recall that something happened request
    1. Come on
      Come on April 24 2016 09: 38
      +3
      There were fierce fights in Afghanistan and the Germans showed themselves well. One battle is known to all, three of the Bundeswehr died. Considering that until now it was precisely these units that were patrolling that were not fired upon, had no real combat experience, then they fought not badly and no one was scared, although everyone’s heart jumped out most likely. 9 hours of battle, surrounded and in full view of the Taliban. But not only three Germans died, the Taliban also got it, they were also not weakly let in blood. There is a battle video. Also, for example, the Danes, it would seem that these nerds what kind of war. But they proved that they can answer. The ambush arranged on their patrol was repelled in close combat, without loss. How the Taliban knows how to fight, I think it's no secret, excellent shooters, cold-blooded and fearless, a heavy opponent. So one should not be mistaken in the combat effectiveness of any army, especially a professional one.
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 April 24 2016 09: 43
      +1
      And how the Greeks fought
      Remind me where ???
      And as the Greeks fought, the Romans can only remember that it was past
      And the current Italians have nothing to do with the Romans, they are completely different peoples, the Germans are closest to the Romans this hour.
      1. nerd.su
        nerd.su April 24 2016 13: 26
        +1
        Quote: 72jora72
        And the current Italians have nothing to do with the Romans, they are completely different peoples, the Germans are closest to the Romans this hour.

        The Italians are still much closer to the ancient Romans than the Germans. If only because the Italian language belongs to the Romance group, and German - to Germanic.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood April 24 2016 13: 49
          +2
          Quote: 72jora72
          Remind me where ???
          Probably meant the ancient Greeks in the ancient era. wink
        2. 72jora72
          72jora72 April 24 2016 15: 52
          +1
          The Italians are still much closer to the ancient Romans than the Germans. If only because the Italian language belongs to the Romance group, and German - to Germanic.
          I'm not talking about the language, I'm talking about the Roman spirit ......
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su April 25 2016 20: 56
            0
            Quote: 72jora72
            I'm not talking about the language, I'm talking about the Roman spirit ......

            Well, maybe there is something in this. Although, it seems to me that the Germans still have a German spirit, only chained to Roman discipline.
    3. Kaiten
      Kaiten April 24 2016 13: 59
      +3
      Quote: Yak28
      Remember how the Germans fought selflessly under Hitler, do you think the German soldiers are capable of this now?

      I am absolutely sure that yes. Do not underestimate the Germans.
  8. 72jora72
    72jora72 April 24 2016 08: 51
    0
    . In this regard, we can conclude that Arabs or Persians do not arm, and they can not fight.
    Dear, comparing Arabs and Persians is at least not correct, it's like comparing for example Germans and, for example, Italians lol
  9. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi April 24 2016 09: 00
    +9
    Iran is a great state with a great history. It is a fact. It is only a pity that today, instead of pragmatists, Muslim radicals are at the head of it.
    1. godofwar6699
      godofwar6699 April 24 2016 10: 15
      +1
      religion and state should always be apart
    2. Grandfather KATSO
      Grandfather KATSO April 24 2016 11: 08
      0
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      It is only a pity that today, instead of pragmatists, Muslim radicals are at the head of it.

      There are the same Muslim radicals as the Communists in North Korea. laughing
      I studied with the Iranians at a university and was there.
      And in Iran I was in an "underground" CASINO !!!!
      And there are also "underground" alcohol, drugs, prostitution and other delights of the shadow economy.
      But of course this is only because my friends are from the "golden youth", so they were not particularly afraid of anything, although ordinary people in Iran are killed for all this.
  10. evil partisan
    evil partisan April 24 2016 09: 19
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    -about 150 US MxNUMXA60 units

    - about 100 British Chieftain ("Chieftain") Mk3 and Mk5
    Where is the M-48? The Iranians are full of them ...
  11. demiurg
    demiurg April 24 2016 09: 29
    +7
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Iran is a great state with a great history. It is a fact. It is only a pity that today, instead of pragmatists, Muslim radicals are at the head of it.

    What did Solomon see on the ring? Will it pass? They now have post-revolutionary slogans, and this is normal. By the way, they are already calming down.
    My classmate is married to a Persian who was building the Bushehr nuclear power plant. Everything is not so clear there lol All of them are already quite European. The main thing is not to smoke on the street, not to shy away drunk, and have nothing to do with drugs.
    By the way, pragmatists are in power there. Just the west they have nothing good to offer. And she can’t overcome it. Therefore, in Iran, Muslim extremists, and in Saudi Arabia a legitimate government.
    1. Grandfather KATSO
      Grandfather KATSO April 24 2016 11: 11
      +1
      Quote: demiurg
      All of them are already quite European.

      Yes.
      When I first talked with the Iranians, I was very surprised that they are practically European people, who (at least in the manner of communication) have practically nothing in common with the rest of the "southerners".
  12. demiurg
    demiurg April 24 2016 09: 43
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    Quote: Yak28

    As they say it was a long time and not true wink Remember how the Germans fought selflessly under Hitler, do you think the German soldiers are capable of such a thing now? And how the Greeks fought, the Romans can only recall that something happened request


    It's like a fifteen year old kid telling his seventy year old grandfather that he had not seen life lol hi
  13. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 24 2016 09: 46
    -2
    Russia is arming countries with which the United States is not friends.
    But the power in these countries may change and they will cease to be friends with Russia.
    There are historical examples.
    What to do?
    Improve your weapons: it should be an order of magnitude superior to everything that other countries have ...
  14. Grandfather KATSO
    Grandfather KATSO April 24 2016 11: 12
    -4
    Well, what could be the potential of a closed, authoritarian country? Yes, any potential, except the shadow economy, will tend to zero there.
    And the military in the 21st century even more so!
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 24 2016 13: 55
      +4
      Quote: Grandpa KATSO
      What potential can a closed, authoritarian country have?
      USSR 1930s, no?
  15. Karabin
    Karabin April 24 2016 12: 53
    +1
    Power of the East:
    Oh, these storytellers! For the sake of a red phrase in the title ... Well, where have you seen this power in the last hundred years? Everyone was always raked. And Arabs and not Arabs, and fundamentalists and Baathists, and colonels, and generals, and crown princes. Mountains of weapons, the number of armies are not decisive. The same will be with Iran. If the goal had been set, the nuclear umbrella would be abandoned. Type conversations, Iranians, this is not Syrians for you, they’ll then smash the democrats, just as empty as: Syrians are not Libyans, and Libyans are not Iraqis, and Iraqis are not Serbs. The result is always the same - the one who is stronger wins the war. In the Middle East, in a global sense, there are no strong ones. Iran is no exception.
    1. Cartalon
      Cartalon April 24 2016 13: 32
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      By personal courage to the Iranians, there seemed to be no complaints during the war with Iraq; they had trouble with the officer corps and spare parts for equipment.
      1. Wayna qhapaq
        Wayna qhapaq April 24 2016 21: 26
        +2
        Quote: Cartalon
        By personal courage to the Iranians, there seemed to be no complaints during the war with Iraq; they had trouble with the officer corps and spare parts for equipment.

        Yes, officers loyal to Shah Pahlavi were "drank" by the revolutionaries in 79th. Every fanatical rabble was appointed in their place. Hence the huge loss of life in the Iran-Iraq war.
  16. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky April 24 2016 15: 07
    +1
    Thanks to the author for the article!
  17. Kornilov
    Kornilov April 24 2016 19: 28
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    Iran’s representatives are engaged in the purchase of military products not only in the Russian Federation, but also in Ukraine. It is often illegal, for example, when buying radio stations for armored vehicles, Russian-made V-84-1 tank engines for T-72 tanks, not in the Russian Federation, but in firms in Ukraine. There, these products are cheaper than in the Russian Federation, and are transported to Iran through a smuggled window in Odessa, often through Turkey.
  18. demiurg
    demiurg April 24 2016 19: 52
    +2
    Quote: Kornilov
    Iran’s representatives are engaged in the purchase of military products not only in the Russian Federation, but also in Ukraine. It is often illegal, for example, when buying radio stations for armored vehicles, Russian-made V-84-1 tank engines for T-72 tanks, not in the Russian Federation, but in firms in Ukraine. There, these products are cheaper than in the Russian Federation, and are transported to Iran through a smuggled window in Odessa, often through Turkey.

    They would be glad to buy new engines in Russia, and not used ones removed from tanks that have been in warehouses for 25 years. The embargo, however, is in the way.
  19. Sars
    Sars April 25 2016 05: 41
    +2
    Iran is another civilization: neither western nor eastern (not Arabs, not Asians).
    Their thinking is peculiar. With them for years you can discuss some sort of insignificant issue.
    There is no Sharia dictatorship in Iran. There is a rather harmonious leadership of the ayatols of society, which treats them with great respect. One Iranian started joking with me about Lenin, they laughed; I joked about Khameini, the Iranian tensed. In a post in Iran, all cafes are open, no one forbids eating during the day. In Tehran, there are several parabolic antennas on each roof.
    About the relationship between the Persians and the Jews: whose ears there (in the form of cookies) are eaten by Jews every year?
  20. Bongo
    Bongo April 25 2016 15: 16
    +1
    Quote: goose
    SAM in small quantities.

    About the SAM in detail please?
    1. sivuch
      sivuch April 25 2016 22: 41
      +1
      Get ahead. I also wanted to ask how the SAMs fled to Iran
  21. tovarich67
    tovarich67 2 May 2016 07: 58
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    when will neosovki cease to measure the army by the number of soldiers of tanks and guns ?? nothing is an indicator. this was proved by the Wehrmacht in the summer of 41. The RKKA was quantitatively and qualitatively radically larger than the Wehrmacht - the result is known. The Wehrmacht took it stupidly and dispersed it through the forests and swamps. why ??? Motivation. The soldiers of the Wehrmacht were pumped up with the idea of ​​racial superiority over the "Untermenschs" and a clear organization allowed them to implement the defeat of the first-class equipment of the Red Army on horses and bicycles. After the atrocities that they staged in the territories of the USSR, the situation changed. The soldiers of the Red Army were motivated to physically destroy the enemy and won fascists. and this huge army butted with the same Iraqi army for 8 years without visible result. and Allah did not help much. So there was no special desire. And a collision with a smaller but well-trained, equipped and motivated enemy will lead to a banal defeat of the Persians. Tsar Leonidas proved together with Themistocles