Russians Alexandrov and Yerofeyev in Kiev court sentenced to 14 years in prison (each)

Russian citizens Alexander Alexandrov and Yevgeny Yerofeyev by the Goloseevsky Court of the city of Kiev were found guilty under several articles of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. Among these articles: "terrorism", "illegal movement across the border of Ukraine", "waging a war of aggression", "illegal crossing the border of the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine."

Ukrainian TV channel «112» reports that the panel of judges of the Goloseevsky court sentenced Russian citizens Alexander Alexandrov and Yevgeny Yerofeyev to 14 years of imprisonment (each). The Russians did not admit guilt.

From the statement of the judge Mykola Didyk:

Despite the defendants' denial of guilty of committing crimes, their guilt is fully confirmed by the totality of evidence that was collected by the prosecution. Including according to the results of the interrogation of Yerofeyev and Aleksandrov as the accused, which were investigated and verified by the court, which the court takes into account and considers sufficient to recognize the guilt of the accused.

It should be noted that the prosecutor asked the court for 15 years for Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev, who in Ukraine continue to be called "members of the GRU of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces." The Russians themselves, who, at the trial, called themselves military servicemen of the people's militia of the LPR, stated that they initially had their testimony knocked out under pressure, and that they called themselves GRU military personnel because they feared for their lives.

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[avvg]

Justice in Ukrainian: COURT sentenced innocent people to 14 years in prison.

[cniza]

Ukraine and a fair court are incompatible things.

[roadsmell]

The task of the court was to condemn with the imposition of a real term - the task was completed by the court, for 14 years.

But for everyone there’s a lesson: cooperate, don’t cooperate with the investigation of another state — the term will be the same.

[Darkmor]

"Waging an aggressive war" is this how?
What kind of nonsense is going on in this country? Can’t their prosecutor even come up with a normal fictitious accusation? Is there no article in their criminal code under which to bring a case?

If I were a prosecutor, I would calmly condemn them for mercenarism and looting, and there would be no questions. What for something to invent and pull by the ears through the ass?

[GSH-18]

In the Dnipropetrovsk region, a judge, in his office, tried to rape a lawyer. The judge justifies his actions by trying to punish a lawyer for a procedural violation. This is all you need to know about the judicial system of Ukraine.

Ukraine resembles a film about Ivan Vasilyevich when Georges Miloslavsky stole the people to war so that they would not understand that impostors were in power.

In general, a solid joke.

[Michael67]

There was even no doubt that they would condemn. These urods drove the court, so that later our guys could be exchanged for this s.u.k.u.-gunner. There are no options.

[CORNET]

We are expecting a verdict ... But I hope they don’t have to sit for a long time. Those who sit them will sit in their place! Hold on guys ..

[tol100v]

Quote: Michael67

There was even no doubt that they would condemn.

So they condemned. And they will start trading. The exchange for Suchavchenko is not straightforward, but you need to pull out the Russian guys!

[Thirteenth]

Quote: Tol100v

Russian guys need to be pulled out!

How? To take a pre-trial detention center by storm?

[Mahmut]

What does Savchenko have to do with it. They are police fighters LN R. And they should be pulled out by Plotnitsky. To kidnap some Amer instructor, to knock out a confession of terrorism from him, give a term and exchange it.

[alpamys]

Quote: Mahmut

What does Savchenko have to do with it. They are police fighters LN R. And they should be pulled out by Plotnitsky.

This is the official version, but the truth is different, the fighters of the Russian Armed Forces are on duty, where are the Russians not leaving their own?

[svp67]

Quote: alpamys

this is the official version, but the truth is different,

And you are her ONLY guardian. Aren't you afraid that "truth" KILLS very often?

Quote: alpamys

where do the Russians not abandon their own?

How would you explain ... a lot, in the process of its decision and execution it does not tolerate noise, it is executed in SILENCE.

[alpamys]

Quote: svp67

Quote: alpamys

this is the official version, but the truth is different,

And you are her ONLY guardian. Aren't you afraid that "truth" KILLS very often?

Not afraid

[ASUR]

And do not rush, rejoice
All will be...

[DPZ]

Yes, they will start to scream that they only need Savchenko

[Vita vko]

Quote: Mahmut

And they should be pulled out by Carpenters

The guarantors of the Minsk agreements, which are approved by the UN Security Council, should pull them out. There is a clear clause on the amnesty of all parties to the conflict, regardless of citizenship. At the same time, Savchenko does not fall 100% under the Minsk agreements. Russia is not a party to the conflict.
Otherwise, it will turn out to be a very dangerous precedent related to the possibility of the unpunished murder of Russian citizens with the subsequent capture of Russian hostages in order to exchange for murderers.

[DPZ]

yes it’s time to storm and pre-trial detention centers and kuev.
But seriously, well, you have to change this bitch. maybe our tops have some other trump cards. I don’t want her to come out. let hunger sit

[alex_V15]

And all at once!
And to take a pre-trial detention center, and the judge with the prosecutor (and, preferably, members of their families).
In the meantime, those who condemned them should open criminal cases.
And remove the legitimacy.
How - I think they’ll come up.
Now is the time when everyone has their skis washed and their hands prepared.
Including judges in Ukraine.
Many things can be done in response to the unpleasant.

[svp67]

Quote: Thirteenth

How? To take a pre-trial detention center by storm?

While it is possible to do without forceful actions. There is an option that "some" CHANGES will take place in Ukraine.

[st25310]

For so many years the fascist, Bandera regime will not survive and the judges themselves will sit in the dock. Our special services need to take control of these judges and prosecutors so that in the future they do not evade punishment.

[Altona]

Quote: avvg

Justice in Ukrainian: COURT sentenced innocent people to 14 years in prison.

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If we abstract from the lyrics and other things, we get a complete "SLR" on Savchenko. That one is 23 years old, these have a little more in total. Ukraine probably already declares its shown humanism in comparison with Russia.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Altona

If we abstract from the lyrics and other things, we get a complete "SLR" on Savchenko. That one is 23 years old, these have a little more in total. Ukraine probably already declares its shown humanism in comparison with Russia.

The "mirror" is not complete ..... We, Savchenko's lawyers, are in good health.
In Durkain, before this very trial, a lawyer protecting Russians was killed, whose arguments for the defense apparently did not fit into the script of the evidence base of the Ukrainian court.

[Karasik]

Quote: avvg

Justice in Ukrainian: COURT sentenced innocent people to 14 years in prison.

It is unlikely that the current government in Ukraine will last long. These lads will not sit 14 years. They will release them, after a change of power, how to give a drink will be released. Need to be patient, and justice will prevail, well, or prudence at least. Well, I just don’t believe that Ukraine in its current state has a resource in 14 years! This is just unscientific!

[kig]

I certainly apologize, but Yerofeyev and Aleksandrov were taken prisoner, with weapons in their hands, after a shootout in which one Ukrainian military was killed and several wounded. By the way, they were also injured. So it was hard to expect that the Ukrainian court would justify them.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: kig

I certainly apologize, but Yerofeyev and Aleksandrov were taken prisoner, with weapons in their hands, after a shootout in which one Ukrainian military was killed and several wounded. By the way, they were also injured. So it was hard to expect that the Ukrainian court would justify them.

I would like the authorities to think about the Russian soldiers who defended their brothers. Surprisingly, those who died in Syria, who are useless to us, have heroes, they regularly broadcast on the first channel, and in New Russia they don’t give a damn. And Zakharova is silent on facebook, and Rogozin does not tweet and Peskov, only about offshore musicians sculpts excuses. It's disgusting ...

[GSH-18]

Quote: avvg

Russians Alexandrov and Yerofeyev in Kiev court sentenced to 14 years in prison (each)

What can I say here .. That's why they and our former brothers.

[GSH-18]

Despite the fact that the accused denied guilty of crimes, their guilt is fully confirmed by a body of evidence, which were collected side of the charge.

Not assembled, but completely fabricated!
Why can’t we in response to this catch and send their zrobitschans to the non-wintering homeland ??? Moreover, there is a strong opinion among these former brothers that we are their enemies. I think it will be fair and right. If we are their enemies, then there is nothing to go to us and work on us, taking away work from the locals!
If, jointly, our Ministry of Internal Affairs will carry out appropriate events, at least in the Rostov Region and the Krasnodar Territory, then there will be five people who are hungry and dissatisfied in Kuev for five Maidan!

[oleg-gr]

What a "fair and humane" trial. More precisely, the judgment seat. Now they will begin to demand an exchange for Savchenko and scream about justice.

[GSH-18]

Quote: oleg-gr

What a "fair and humane" trial. More precisely, the judgment seat. Now they will begin to demand an exchange for Savchenko and scream about justice.

Break off!

[Dmitry Potapov]

Savchenko is unlikely to be replaced by these two ready-made fighters, and that is a complete fool. Am I am amazed at how she entered the flight school? Is there a rigorous selection for health too, or do they have head problems as normal for a military man?

[Thirteenth]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

I’m unlikely to change it to Savchenko

Maybe they will change, but not to Savchenko! The people will not understand. Although, after the amnesty for Vasilyeva and Serdyukov ... The people like bee also did not quite understand this, but these dear gentlemen are free, and that’s it.

[Cheshire]

So she was expelled twice for poor progress. Thus, the deputy of the Rada appeared at an early age.

[Now we are free]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Savchenko is unlikely to be replaced by these two ready-made fighters, and that is a complete fool. Am I am amazed at how she entered the flight school? Is there a rigorous selection for health too, or do they have head problems as normal for a military man?

Greetings Dmitry What a strange question - How? Patriotic Nenki always had great chances to enter and pass the EXTL. final exam rather than just professionals ... (Look at Kravchuk, who, even in Soviet times, was able to climb into power with his Russophobia ...) + Gadya Khavchenko is "a little" weak "on the front end" because of what she was thrown out of Iraq, bl ... Oh, I flirted with the Americans there ...

[Altona]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Savchenko is unlikely to be replaced by these two ready-made fighters, and that is a complete fool.

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If it were just a harmless fool, and then in fact a frostbitten sadist. And Kiev is hardly ready to accept this "prisoner of the Putin regime", its "winners" are rich. This banner should hang in the distance, and not dangle under your feet.

[Mountain shooter]

It doesn’t even matter why they were convicted and why. The country of Maidania is something incompatible with either justice or law in general.

[vic58]

Ward № 6! Just wondering: who will share the fate of Milosevic ???

[GSH-18]

States again demanded that Crimea return (just 2 year anniversary).
Okay, persuaded, back! The next day, as soon as:
1. Britain will return the Falkland Islands to Argentina.
2. The Turks will remove troops from Northern Cyprus.
3. Kosovo will return to Serbia.
4. Texas goes to Mexico (I remind you, the United States chopped it off after the 1848 war)
What do not agree? Then everyone shut up!

And 5. Alaska will return to Russia!
Something like this

[Cananecat]

You can minus, but de jure they are guilty, although not in all respects. You do not have to wait for early release, as well as amnesty. Whether they will be exchanged, perhaps and probably not for Savchenko. The case will be reviewed, and if mercenarism is not proven, an article on illegal border crossing will remain. So patience with the peasants.

[Dr. Bormental]

De jure I do not know, but de facto the fact that they fell into the clutches of ukrov in any case meant that they would imprison. There was no need to guess.

[engineer74]

De jure does not roll here! Remember how their troops in 2014-15 platoons crossed our border, often with weapons! Do many of them sit?

[Cananecat]

Quote: Dr. Bormental

De jure I do not know, but de facto the fact that they fell into the clutches of ukrov in any case meant that they would imprison. There was no need to guess.

A better bullet in the forehead?

Quote: engineer74

De jure does not roll here! Remember how their troops in 2014-15 platoons crossed our border, often with weapons! Do many of them sit?

Have we already recognized the LPR and the DPR?

[atamankko]

You can’t exchange in any way, Ukrainians will grab any Russian and
exchange for your own, here you need to look for legal clues,
and where did the human rights activists who sobbed on the spotter go?

[udincev]

Quote: atamankko

and where did the human rights activists who wept for the spotter

So there was no hint from otherworldly that we must cry and ask for forgiveness ...
That was Savchenko!

[tatarin_ru]

Hold on, men, 14 years old you will not be allowed to sit in any case. Exchange. But not tomorrow. Media noise and political background are a bad ally.
Soon everything will be completely sold in the Ruin, they will begin to sell people (watered prisoners), as in ISIS

[Baloo]

I'm more interested in the chronology of events. How our guys were wounded captured. And what about the other LNR workers? Gone without a loss? Was it a setup or banderlogs turned out to be more qualified specialists? And the sniper worked beautifully - did not kill, did not cripple, so a moderate wound. And from the point of view of determining the severity of an industrial injury, there are minor injuries. We must pay tribute to the Ukrainian surgeon who operated on the shoulder of our guy. One feels the hand of the Master, who is used to working with what is in any conditions. Respect.
and all the same, how did our guys get so crazy?

[tatarin_ru]

I'm more interested in the chronology of events. How our guys were wounded captured. And what about the other LNR workers? Gone without a loss? Was it a setup or banderlogs turned out to be more qualified specialists?

There was an ambush. There are dead (if my memory serves me right). The information is clear. Well, this is in any war, unfortunately, the LPR is no exception.
The republic has not yet been formed, there are different people fighting and living, who went to fight for justice or stood up for protection, who came for opportunities, and who just love "grandmother" and have no nationality. The harsh truth of life.
I think the order for the guys was "political", the same as the 10 paratroopers who were exchanged earlier. I also have a lot of questions, how?

[Baloo]

Paratroopers are another story. Their weapons were unloaded. Where is the evidence that they were detained in the adjacent territory, and not stolen from the Russian side.
By the way, what kind of flag do I have instead of the Russian one and how can I change it to my native one?

[tatarin_ru]

Quote: st25310

For so many years the fascist, Bandera regime will not survive and the judges themselves will sit in the dock. Our special services need to take control of these judges and prosecutors so that in the future they do not evade punishment.

Judges and prosecutors do what they are told or ordered from above, give you the will you transplant everyone.
Do not forget Ruin is an authoritarian state. It is necessary to plant those who give orders and formulate a policy

[Gardamir]

I’m wondering, this one who is a genius in foreign policy. will do anything? Or, again, this is not a royal matter? Then in the spring of 2014, he promised a lot, only everything has already been forgotten? And by the way, who does not know in Ukraine, a lot of people from Russia are sitting, that they are preparing public opinion for an exchange, and again the king is good. king patriot. Also, they will make another Kiev discount!
Only I will say that. if in Russia the people’s power, and not trading-partner’s, would find a way how to rescue the!

[kush62]

Gardamir (4) Yesterday, 19:14 New
I’m wondering, this one who is a genius in foreign policy. will do anything? Or, again, this is not a royal matter? Then in the spring of 2014, he promised a lot, only everything has already been forgotten? And by the way, who does not know in Ukraine, a lot of people from Russia are sitting, that they are preparing public opinion for an exchange, and again the king is good. king patriot. Also, they will make another Kiev discount!
Only I will say that. if in Russia the people’s power, and not trading-partner’s, would find a way how to rescue the!


To whom what, and a lousy bathhouse. We have such a saying. Mr Comrade always has Putin to blame. In the morning, the president should have stood with a banner in front of the Kiev court "Freedom for our soldiers!" Where and who knows what mechanisms and levers are included.

[Gardamir]

Mr. Comrade is always Putin's fault

Not always, but international politics in his area of ​​responsibility.

In the morning, the president was supposed to stand in front of the Kiev court with a banner "

Uncle, you? The solution of international issues is the actions of the president, and they are solved in other ways.

[kush62]

Uncle, you? The solution of international issues is the actions of the president, and they are solved in other ways.

Nephew listen to the news. A conversation between Putin and Poroshenko took place.
Where the "difficult" fate of the gunner Aydar Savchenko and Russian citizens Alexander Alexandrov and Yevgeny Erofeev was discussed. Where are you running ahead of the locomotive. On the site, many express their point of view (right or wrong). And you and the interpreter are constantly oppressing your party line. Go agitate grandmothers.

[Holsten]

Only complete and unconditional surrender will save the children, and trading for them will only give ukra extra trump cards and the temptation to kidnap people. Including from the territory of Russia.

[Tungus]

Most likely, the tantrum will be replaced by heavier figures, Booth, for example. And the guys on less media shit. Karpyuk, for example. And they will do it quietly in a year, two. When everything settles down. Or vice versa, they will coincide with any event and create shows.

[Denis Skiff]

The lawyer was killed. Others are threatened. When will they be released?
They need to hold on.
When the troops come to Kiev or the loyal power will be changed. And when it will be, who knows. Or indeed, everything has already been decided and will be released in known ways.

[Erg]

If without emotion, the fate of these guys will not affect the basic strategic concept of Russia. War...

[Yarik76]

Patience and courage to the brothers!

[kig]

Well, that cleared up. Savchenko = Erofeev + Alexandrov. In time, it was publicized.

[Wolka]

and who are the judges ...

[avg-mgn]

Judging by this, the prosecution stubbornly dragged the situation by the ears and pulled it.

Witnesses for the prosecution claim Russians allegedly they confessed to them that they were "Russian military", but none of the witnesses could say with certainty whether Erofeev and Aleksandrov took direct part in the clash with the Ukrainian security forces and what weapons they had in this case. The defendants themselves do not admit their guilt.

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