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Analyzing the military power of Russia: the secret investigation of the Pentagon (Politico, USA)

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Analyzing the military power of Russia: the secret investigation of the Pentagon (Politico, USA)



25 years passed after the end of the Cold War, and the Pentagon is again concerned about the Russian military force.

Lieutenant General Herbert Raymond McMaster has a clean-shaven head and a warlike attitude, which only strengthens his reputation as the leading intellectual soldier of the American army, who often quotes the famous Prussian general and military theorist Karl von Clausewitz. Ten years ago, MacMaster led the Pentagon in a tense struggle to develop a new concept of war, taking into account threats from Islamic terrorists, as well as militants from Afghanistan, Iraq and other troubled places. Now he has a more specific task.

Object of research: Moscow

Politico was able to find out that after the overwhelming success of the supposedly secret Russian invasion of Ukraine, MacMaster quietly led an important expert group trying to understand how the US Army could adapt to this new Russian threat. In part, this has become a tacit acknowledgment of the failures of the American army - and the state as a whole.

“It is clear that while our ground forces fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, Russia studied the American opportunities and shortcomings and embarked on an ambitious and basically successful modernization program,” MacMaster said last week, speaking to the Senate Armed Services Committee. “For example, in Ukraine, the combination of unmanned aerial vehicles, offensive cybers and the latest electronic warfare systems indicates a high level of technical equipment.”

In Ukraine, the rapidly mobilized rebel army, which Russia equipped with surprisingly effective tanks, artillery and anti-tank weapons, launched a swarm of unmanned aerial vehicles into the air and carried out a series of cyber attacks that disabled tactical communications systems and even GPS.

Discussions were held on the basis of what was found out during trips to Ukraine, and on the basis of other studies conducted by experts from the American government and European countries. They made it possible to draw a number of preliminary conclusions, as indicated in a document drawn up on the results of briefings held in recent weeks for the top leadership of the Pentagon and the military command of the allied countries.

American commanders and intelligence officials are alarmed that Moscow today may have advantages in a number of key areas. She has a new weapon, which are not protected from light armored vehicles, widely used in Iraq and Afghanistan. And the main battle tanks of the Russian T-90 type, which during the last conflicts were considered an anachronism, proved that they still play a decisive role.

McMaster notes: "Russia has a large variety of guided and unguided missiles, as well as artillery systems, which are superior in terms of range and impact effect to the artillery systems of the US Army and their ammunition." According to the retired General Wesley Clark (Wesley Clark), who commanded NATO troops from 1997 to 2000 year and expressed concern about the Ukrainian conflict and its significance for the US Army, Russian tanks are so advanced that now they are "mostly invulnerable to anti-tank missiles."

The events in Ukraine presented another disturbing lesson. Russia is widely using political sabotage against the Ukrainian authorities, leading the so-called "hybrid war" in which it combines military power and covert operations to undermine the enemy state. After Ukraine, Russia carried out air-ground intervention in Syria, having achieved some success there, and demonstrates power in other ways. This week, two Russian military aircraft and a helicopter flew several times over a warship of the US Navy in the Baltic Sea, despite the warnings on the radio.

McMaster's answer was a study called "The Russian New Generation Warfare". Its participants from state bodies made several secret trips to the front line in Ukraine. These important but subtle efforts are aimed at revising the whole concept of the use of ground forces, and perhaps their organizational structure in case they have to deal with the Russians in Eastern Europe.

It is assumed that the study in the coming years will have far-reaching implications for the US Army, for the purchase of weapons and military equipment, as well as for the maintenance and methods of combat training of units. The first conclusions will be tested in large military exercises, which are planned to be held in June in Poland. Says the former chief of staff of the Army, General Gordon Sullivan (Gordon Sullivan): "All this is intended to show that we are in the game."

Among those who carefully analyzed the actions of the Russians in Ukraine was a professor at Georgetown University and a former officer of the Marine Corps, Phillip Karber, who from 2014 of the year 22 visited Ukraine. “Few in the West paid particular attention to the doctrinal turn of Russia towards the“ war of a new generation ”before it was manifested in Ukraine,” says Carber. Another surprise, he adds, is the inattention of the West, especially given the unexpected scope and duration of the conflict, as well as the unforeseen aggressiveness with which Russia initiated it.

Carber says he was stunned by the striking effect of the new Russian ammunition, including the mines being installed in the mine, which the United States no longer has. He counted at least 14 drones of various types used in this conflict. According to him, the Ukrainian unit, to which he was seconded, in one day recorded up to eight flights of drones. “How to deal with the enemy's UAV?” Asks Clark. - Is it possible to blind, disable or knock down these systems? The US Army has not experienced serious air attacks since 1943. ”

Brigadier General Peter L. Jones, who heads the infantry school of ground forces in Fort Benning, Georgia, directs the new army venture. But in general, this is the brainchild of McMaster, who, as head of the Center for the integration of forces and means of ground forces in Fort Yustis, Virginia, is responsible for the prospects for the development of the army to 2025 year and beyond.

Clark calls McMaster's work the most dramatic rethinking of the role of the ground forces after the collapse of the Soviet Union. “The US Army has not worked on these issues for 25 years, since the Cold War ended,” he says.

The question is why the US government, and especially the ground forces, once again allowed them to divert attention for such a long time that they were caught off guard by major events, such as the strengthening of the potential of the Russian army. While Russian President Vladimir Putin carried out active military construction, US ground forces made plans to reduce the number of personnel on active military service from 490 000 to 450 000, that is, to 40 000 people. Now this plan is questioned. Recently, the House of Representatives proposed to stop this reduction. And last month, a delegation from Alaska persuaded the Pentagon to abandon the plan to disband the airborne brigade. One of the above arguments was the new hostility of Russia.

It also raises the question of whether General McMaster meets his official function. For most of his career, he caused controversy and scandal. In his book, Dereliction of Duty: Johnson, McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam (written by Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the lies leading to the Vietnam War) he wrote He criticized the generals of the Vietnamese era for failing to honestly and frankly admit that it was impossible to win this war. But later, when this general developed a comprehensive strategy for the counterguerrilla war in Iraq and Afghanistan, his critics stated that McMaster and his like-minded people had misrepresented and exaggerated the merits of this strategy. The anti-guerrilla war involves not only fighting, but also a campaign to "win hearts and minds" in order to win over the local population to their side through restoration work, restoring order and achieving economic progress, which takes at least a decade.

But the Americans did not intend to remain in Afghanistan and Iraq for so long.

Now new realities lead MacMaster to the task on which he and his colleagues on counterguerrilla strategy had to focus at the very beginning: to orient the army to what it does best - to fight the traditional adversary. But the question is whether the US military will be able to work out a realistic approach to Russian aggression and at the same time not to drag the country into a third world war.

This is rather strange, but the model for the new development was a detailed army analysis of the war that was 43 a year ago, and which most of us had forgotten. McMaster shook off the dust from the old study of the 1973 war of the year that Israel conducted with the then Moscow appointees of Egypt and Syria.

***

In October, 1973, when America turned its agonizing odyssey into the jungles of Vietnam, another war broke out thousands of kilometers away, which radically changed the American ground forces.

The tank losses in the first six days of the Doomsday War, when Egypt and Syria struck a sudden blow at Israel, turned out to be more than the entire American tank fleet located in Europe to contain the Soviet Union. In the course of the last major tank battles of World War II, the armies of the warring parties acted on average at a distance of 700 meters from each other. During the Arab-Israeli war, this distance was 2700 meters and more. That is, the affected area has become much larger.

Subsequently, the Chief of Staff of the Ground Forces, General Creighton Abrams (Creighton Abrams) sent a couple of generals to the combat area to go through the battlefields, inspect the burned tanks, get damaged samples of the Russian technology and find out what lessons the American army should learn from that war.

“The Doomsday War produced a powerful psychological impact on the US Army,” recalls Karber, who participated in the Starry Baire expert group, named after its leaders. “She refuted decades-old assumptions and estimates.”

From that war, the army learned the following lesson, which was reflected in the report of the Starry-Bear group: “A new powerful anti-tank weapon, the rapid advance of battle formations along the battlefield, as well as the interaction between ground forces and aviation showed how much the world around our army changed while we fought in Vietnam. ” The words of General Don Starry about the events of forty years ago are quite applicable to what our ground forces are facing today - just Vietnam should be exchanged for Iraq and Afghanistan, and the Soviet Union for Russia.

“The attention of the military once again focused on our country's obligations to NATO in Europe,” Starry wrote then. “We found that the Soviets were very active while we were engaged in Vietnam.” They revised the combat concepts at the tactical and operational level, strengthened the organizational structure and adopted the new generation equipment and weapons. ”

Turn on fast forward and transfer to 2016 year. 15 years of anti-guerrilla warfare in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places have passed - it is even longer than the Vietnam War, and today we have to reconsider the “decades-old assumptions and assessments”. MacMaster and other high-ranking generals concluded that while the United States floundered in the Middle East, Moscow focused its efforts on modernizing the army so that it could successfully resist American tactics.

53-year-old McMaster became one of those who, over the past ten years, has been trying to reorient ground forces and divert them from traditional methods of warfare. But many consider him one of the main thinkers-strategists of the ground forces, and his supporters insist that McMaster can determine the best actions to take. “He analyzes, and he thinks about what can be done and what needs to be done,” says General Sullivan.

When MacMaster developed groundbreaking tactics against the Iraqi rebels after the invasion of 2003, an important post for him under General David Petraeus, in which he was rewriting the ground combat regulations on counter-guerrilla actions, became his reward. It was not an easy task. The American army has not been engaged in counterinsurgency operations since the Vietnam War, and this is several decades. Commanding a brigade in 2005 in the western Iraqi province of Anbar with the rank of colonel, MacMaster took part in the development of a strategy called “clean, fix, increase efforts”. According to its provisions, American troops, with the support of aviation, seize a populated area, consolidate there and create security forces from among the population, staying there until these forces are ready to provide security for the period of the formation of local authorities.

To turn the ground forces into an organization engaged in combat training and purchasing the necessary equipment to combat the gangs of terrorists and partisans hiding in populated areas, while abandoning large tank formations such as the Iraqi Republican Guard, which was defeated during the Gulf War in 1991, turned out to be extremely difficult.

Society was less and less supportive of that conflict, and the congress was unhappy that there was no end to this war.

But the events in Ukraine have changed a lot. McMaster and the working group created by him believe that their work can have a huge impact on the purchases of ground forces, on combat training methods and on the organizational structure for many years to come - just like the Doomsday War.

***

The army has long been trying to learn the lessons of those wars in which it did not participate, and to enrich its arsenal with these lessons.

Ten years before the start of the bloody US Civil War, George McClellan, who later became the commander of the Union army, was the official observer of the European armies that participated in the Crimean War, which Russia lost to the alliance in France, Britain, the Ottoman Empire and Sardinia. Many consider this conflict to be the first modern war in which mass-produced rifles, explosive shells, mines and armored amphibious assault craft were first used. John Pershing, who commanded allied forces during World War I, was previously an observer at the Russo-Japanese War.

However, today's thoughts of McMaster and his colleagues about the consequences of the Ukrainian war for the USA strangely remind the events of the beginning of 70's. It was a time when the American army waged war with the partisans in Vietnam, and the Russian armed forces strengthened and improved, creating a new threat to the NATO military alliance.

An analysis of the 1973 war of the year “serves as a useful model for investigating the conflict in Ukraine,” said Colonel Kelly Ivanoff (Kelly Ivanoff), who served in the field artillery and now works as chief assistant to MacMaster. He notes that a detailed study of the 1973 war of the year "greatly influenced the development of the American ground forces in the subsequent 15 years."

The study “The Russian war of a new generation” is intended to “study the Ukrainian theater of military operations in the interests of the prospective development of ground forces, with an emphasis on how the Russian army and its henchmen use disruptive technologies,” Ivanoff added.

This research, which is just beginning, focuses on 20 specific issues of warfare. Among other things, it is the provision of communications on the battlefield in the conditions of cyber attacks, the improvement of tactical reconnaissance, the development of new battle formations and tactics of actions, as well as the study of new air defense systems, models of weapons and methods of using helicopters.

The parallels with the Arab-Israeli war end where Russia begins to use other, non-military means - first during the armed annexation of the Ukrainian Crimean peninsula in 2014, and then during the ongoing indirect war in eastern Ukraine.

“They looked at what we did at the beginning of 90's and what we wanted to do, and then went further than that,” says Sullivan, who served as chief of staff of the ground forces from 1991 to 1995 year, and now heads the non-governmental the military interests organization, the Association of the US Army. - They began to create special operational groups with the participation of diplomats who undermined the Ukrainian state from the inside. This is a hybrid tactic. ”

According to him, the army is now trying to apply what "we have learned about their practice of using small green men - people who overthrow the government."

It cannot be said that the Russian army and its puppets are powerful and invincible. The Ukrainian army managed to repel a large-scale Russian invasion. And those documents that are distributed among the command of the ground forces and foreign allies indicate that the Russian army in the period from 1985 to 2015 year significantly reduced in number. Many consider as its main drawback conscripts who are poorly prepared and poorly motivated.

General Starry, who led the working group on the assessment of the Arab-Israeli war, came to the conclusion that the outcome of the war is determined by the quality of the soldiers, not their number. “It’s quite obvious,” he wrote later, “that winning the battle provides the courage of the Soldier, the character of the commander and the combat experience of well-trained units and subunits.”

However, the generals believe that Moscow’s efforts to modernize its nuclear forces, coupled with the events in eastern Ukraine and the recent Russian military foray into Syria, can lead to serious and lasting changes in the US ground forces.
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  1. Dam
    Dam April 17 2016 18: 40
    +46
    What you won’t analyze to snatch the budget
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov April 17 2016 18: 58
      +39
      Yes, it’s not even the budget, they will have it anyway, they need the people of America and the EU to see the enemy in Russia, this is a paramount task.
      1. Gorodovik
        Gorodovik April 17 2016 19: 22
        -62%
        But you see enemies in them, why should they think otherwise?
        1. Pirogov
          Pirogov April 17 2016 19: 43
          +53
          Quote: Cityman
          But you see enemies in them, why should they think otherwise?

          First of all, I see the enemies in their leadership, it happened, you can imagine, these people ruined my homeland, and did a lot of nasty things and continue to do it, and their people are ,,, type ,,, free just scum, believe me, I was there .
          1. Gorodovik
            Gorodovik April 17 2016 20: 07
            -68%
            Okay, but there are two but, you just called the bastards out of the people, and answer me why would they consider you to be someone better than your epithet? I would not even reckon with the man who called me a bastard.
            And now about nemnorgo another. You said that those people ruined their homeland. Good, but it turns out that you are a limp person. You allowed to ruin your homeland. You and millions are the same as you who are now languishing over it.
            1. Pirogov
              Pirogov April 17 2016 20: 42
              +30
              Quote: Cityman
              Okay, but there are two but, you just called the bastards out of the people, and answer me why would they consider you to be someone better than your epithet? I would not even reckon with the man who called me a bastard.
              And now about nemnorgo another. You said that those people ruined their homeland. Good, but it turns out that you are a limp person. You allowed to ruin your homeland. You and millions are the same as you who are now languishing over it.

              The first when the USSR collapsed, I was a child, and as you know, I couldn’t influence it, the second you write: ,,,, I wouldn’t even consider the person who called me a bastard ,,,, but you forget, one thing, that America and Europe have been talking about our country and the people living in it for many years, if not centuries, and not so disgusting, why don’t you talk about it?
              1. Gorodovik
                Gorodovik April 17 2016 20: 48
                -41%
                well, on account of the collapse you are innocent, but others were not children, or how I was not born.
                And secondly, well, you see the enemy in them, they say they are talking about our country of nastiness. So why should they try to believe their people in what they think so?
                1. cniza
                  cniza April 17 2016 21: 47
                  +21
                  It cannot be said that the Russian army and its puppets are powerful and invincible. The Ukrainian army managed to repel a large-scale Russian invasion.


                  This smiled the most, they continue to believe that Russia is fighting against Ukraine ...
                  1. Mahmut
                    Mahmut April 18 2016 05: 55
                    -9
                    You allowed to ruin your homeland. You and millions are the same as you who are now languishing over it.

                    Gorodovik, local beads are not kept, they need to be conquered with flattery, like Zadornov. And do what you like with them.
                    1. skeptic
                      skeptic April 18 2016 10: 51
                      0
                      Quote: Mahmut
                      You allowed to ruin your homeland. You and millions are the same as you who are now languishing over it.

                      Gorodovik, local beads are not kept, they need to be conquered with flattery, like Zadornov. And do what you like with them.


                      But didn’t you try to cooperate, or do you prefer to act the way you want to get back?
                  2. Surg
                    Surg April 18 2016 23: 18
                    0
                    Only Russia did not come to war.
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                3. Pirogov
                  Pirogov April 17 2016 22: 48
                  +18
                  Quote: Cityman
                  well, on account of the collapse you are innocent, but others were not children, or how I was not born.
                  And secondly, well, you see the enemy in them, they say they are talking about our country of nastiness. So why should they try to believe their people in what they think so?

                  You’re a strange person, if people see me as an enemy, father, grandfather, great-grandfather, etc., you also saw them as enemies. I don’t understand that I should love them according to yours, or can I put my left and then right cheeks and apartments.
                4. Monos
                  Monos April 17 2016 23: 29
                  +20
                  Quote: Cityman
                  talking about our country of filth.


                  Dear State Department Troll! Stop MY country to call yours. Do not touch it with your greasy handles! And still wonder why we consider you enemies, overseas bastard.
            2. bitevka
              bitevka April 18 2016 08: 36
              +1
              You bastards are aggressive, and we are peace-loving .... all the difference.
        2. Monos
          Monos April 17 2016 19: 44
          +32
          Quote: Cityman
          But you see enemies in them, why should they think otherwise?


          Well yes. Well yes. "Have pity on the maniac. He also has a mother." And you, my dear, do not suffer from Stockholm Syndrome by any chance?
          1. Gorodovik
            Gorodovik April 17 2016 20: 19
            -33%
            Well, firstly, somewhere you saw in my words a love for them. it's just that I consider them to be the same people as we are.
            and secondly, since when did the peoples of Europe and the United States become mani?
            1. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera April 17 2016 20: 50
              +30
              Quote: Cityman
              and secondly, since when did the peoples of Europe and the United States become mani?

              Since then, when they began to unleash wars around the world
        3. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch April 17 2016 19: 48
          +30
          Quote: Cityman
          But you see enemies in them, why should they think otherwise?


          The stump is clear, we supported the creation of the United States, and the next day we declared them enemies, and since then we terrorize, and they only do what they are trying to fight off aggressive Russia. Yes, we have all the safes crammed with plans for a "drop-shot" in the General Staff.
          What nonsense lee, SW.Gorodovik? They didn’t rattle us in a bolt.
          1. Gorodovik
            Gorodovik April 17 2016 20: 24
            -35%
            Well, to begin with, before the Cold War, we had a fairly good relationship, you recall the color plans, what color there reflected the war with Russia?
            And plans should be for all occasions, even if Martians suddenly go to war with us. Plans are needed so that in the case of day q, do not run and shout what to do. And the dropshop began with the words saying that suddenly Soviet tanks moved to the English Channel.
            Yes, and I did not hear that the Americans want to erase us in nuclear dust.
            1. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera April 17 2016 20: 51
              +13
              Quote: Cityman
              And plans should be for all occasions,

              Especially for those when you want to take out a hut from a neighbor yes
              1. anykin
                anykin April 18 2016 12: 38
                +2
                "Especially for those when you want to take out a neighbor's hut"

                And the partners coped well with this.

                "Foreign military intervention in Russia (1918-1921) - military intervention of the countries of Concord (Entente) and Central Powers (Quadruple Alliance) in the Civil War in Russia (1917-1922). In total, 14 states took part in the intervention."
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            2. dali
              dali April 17 2016 22: 14
              +18
              Quote: Cityman
              Well, to begin with, before the Cold War we had a pretty good relationship,

              Of course ... especially when the mattress parts, during the civil war, in the north and the Far East, were robbed and killed for nothing ...

              If it’s very interesting (although you won’t be interested in it, you have huge mattresses like us), then there was an article on the VO about the memoirs of a mattress colonel ... how they kept us and destroyed us as natives-Indians.

              Then they practically divided Russia ... but it wasn’t there, but the situation was awful, not today’s couple !!!

              Well, in vain at the time, the king helped them with the fleet - even if so they remained a British colony ...

              And remember Vietnam !!!

              And now where and when did our soldiers behave this way (they killed for the sake of lust and robbery)?

              But as in France, at the end of the Second World War, there was one French woman who wrote a book already, and there were digits there, like about 300 thousand rape ... they released it like that !!!

              Oh, what a lovely, sweet American soldier, and they had families, and kids ... and after that who are they ?!

            3. Senior manager
              Senior manager April 17 2016 22: 47
              +7
              Learn the history of Gorodovik, there is still time.
              1. Wheel
                Wheel April 17 2016 23: 42
                +11
                Quote: St. Propulsion
                Learn the history of Gorodovik, there is still time.

                Not in the horse's food.
              2. firefighter
                firefighter April 18 2016 05: 52
                +1
                he does not have time and medicine is powerless. time is lost and it’s not possible to teach him something ...
            4. Achilles
              Achilles April 17 2016 22: 53
              +9
              Well, to begin with, before the Cold War we had a pretty good relationship

              Yes, before the Cold War, there were good relations, but as Stalin refused to give up his sovereignty in favor of the United States, it all began.
              Let me remind you how it was:
              July 1944 - In the American city of Bretton Wood, agreements are signed that make the dollar "ruler of the world"
              - December 1945 of the year - ratification of the Bretton Woods agreements, the USSR refuses to ratify, refuses to give its sovereignty in the hands of the United States and Great Britain;
              From that moment on, we began to be considered the main enemy for the West, and until that moment, Stalin and the entire Soviet people were considered heroes in them, open the press at that time and you will see this.
            5. Homo
              Homo April 18 2016 00: 27
              +13
              Quote: Cityman
              Yes, and I did not hear that the Americans want to erase us in nuclear dust.

              So read once you have not heard.
              On November 3, 1945 (that is, just two months after the surrender of Japan), a report of No. 329 from the Joint Intelligence Committee was submitted to the United States Chief of Staff. The first paragraph of this document read: “To select approximately 20 targets suitable for strategic atomic bombing of the Soviet Union.” hi
            6. insular
              insular April 18 2016 04: 31
              +4
              Quote: Cityman
              Yes, and I did not hear that the Americans want to erase us in nuclear dust.

              Too fat even for the thickest troll laughing
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            8. Platonich
              Platonich April 18 2016 04: 36
              +6
              Yes, of course, on paper they simply painted the nuclear bombing of 100 cities of the USSR! Rummage through the archives! They are so snow-white and fluffy when Vietnam was flooded with napalm and herbicides! It turned out that they helped the Vietnamese fertilize the rice fields with their corpses! What caring gentlemen are they!
            9. ostrom
              ostrom April 18 2016 07: 52
              +1
              And why should they say, they showed in Khoroshima and Nagasaki. And it’s absolutely without reason dropping bombs on these cities. And remind, when was the USA our friends?
            10. kotvov
              kotvov April 18 2016 10: 33
              0
              Yes, and I did not hear that the Americans want to erase us in nuclear dust. ,,
              let's say that you have not heard that there is a gopher, and he is fellow
            11. Surg
              Surg April 18 2016 23: 22
              0
              Of course they didn’t hear, or do you think they will scream everywhere that we will erase Russia (the USSR) into nuclear dust? And so far they have not erased only by the fact that we also have a nuclear eraser.
        4. Nick
          Nick April 17 2016 21: 13
          +22
          Quote: Cityman
          But you see enemies in them, why should they think otherwise?

          Who should Russians see in NATO? If NATO surrounds Russia with military bases, expands and approaches our borders, how do we perceive them? Let me remind you that NATO is not a pacifist or charitable organization, it is a military alliance that has repeatedly been aggressive and unleashed hostilities far from its borders. Remember Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya ...
          We have to admit that NATO’s actions against Russia must be recognized as hostile. In connection with this circumstance, Russia has to see a potential adversary in NATO.
          Let me remind you that Russia does not create military bases around the United States and other NATO countries, it then closed the existing bases in Camrani and Lourdes ... But in vain. am These NATO stsuki do not remember good. negative
          1. Gorodovik
            Gorodovik April 17 2016 21: 38
            -40%
            OK, I agree with you. But what is the thing, they are enemies because we consider them enemies. Why, then, are they surprised that they are opposed to our country?
            About Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya ... About Libya, I agree. But Remember Iraq. Hmm, remind me in which country people were poisoned by gas with people who have different views on religion and are trying to pile on all neighbors? Hmm, whatever you say, but Saddam was the same rabbit.
            Yugoslavia. You will probably be surprised but the partition of this country was the only way out. And the only one who rested so much against Serbia, because of its policy, the war went on there for quite some time. And kakbe Yugoslavia is almost in the center of Europe. And how do you think NATO should have been treated in that situation? Let the war burn on? I know you won’t understand me, you won’t even try to figure out the question, because you have templates in your head.
            Although why am I here explaining everything to you. You make excuses or just omit all the nonsense without even trying to look at the problem from the other side. But you will accuse me of idolatry to the West. But you are a non-thinking mass of people hiding behind the merits of more respectable ancestors. But thanks to you, I realized that arguing with people like you is like arguing with a fool. But I still believe it's still "as if".
            1. cniza
              cniza April 17 2016 21: 51
              +14
              Are you pretending or really go ... from? Read again what you write yourself, although what am I talking about?
              1. iliitchitch
                iliitchitch April 17 2016 23: 17
                +12
                Quote: cniza
                Are you pretending or really go ... from? Read again what you write yourself, although what am I talking about?


                All trollers are stamped on one 3-D printer. Easier
            2. Dam
              Dam April 18 2016 01: 13
              +7
              The hare is written through me. Learn Russian and tighten your mustache with P.I.
            3. From Udmurtia
              From Udmurtia April 18 2016 02: 36
              +4
              The famous quote from our Foreign Minister is applicable to you: D, bK The famous quote from our Foreign Minister is applicable to you: D, b!
            4. oblako
              oblako April 18 2016 04: 39
              +8
              Dear Gorodovik, yes, we have certain patterns in our heads, as well as you. And we are all "thinking" as it seems to us. Our media think for us, no matter what we say to ourselves ... This is the reality that they create for us and in which we live. Was Saddam the same hare? Which of your presidents was not a hare?) Remember Hiroshima, Orange in Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya ... It is not enough to agree, you also have to answer for it. The question is how? I think the hour of reckoning for America is not far off. But the conclusion must be unambiguous, we must respect each other's sovereignty ... Although they can also reproach Russia for Ukraine, but ... For me, who was born in the USSR, who took an oath of allegiance to the Motherland - Ukraine - USSR, and there is now the result of aggression by the West and the United States. Well, imagine that Virginia separated from the United States and Russia became very friendly with her and installed its missile defense system directed against North Korea ...
              I would not want you to think that I consider the people of the United States to be somehow hostile or flawed or especially refined and superior to any other people. It’s just that a person has the ability to associate with something, with his own business, with his country, with business, etc. The monopoly business of the United States and people who associate themselves with it have interests and express them through the expansion of their country everywhere, no longer taking into account the morality and interests of other countries. It’s like interfering in someone else’s family. I think that this is at odds with morality and does not meet the personal interests of these people in the long run, and especially this is not in the interests of those whom they will pull for themselves ... But, these are just my templates ...
            5. aleks700
              aleks700 April 18 2016 05: 40
              +2
              And kakbe Yugoslavia is almost in the center of Europe. And how do you think NATO should have been treated in that situation? Let the war burn on?
              NATO should have helped the federal government deal with the rebels. But NATO only added fuel to the fire.
            6. firefighter
              firefighter April 18 2016 05: 57
              +1
              Well said! Well done! It is useless to argue with YOU. And arguing with a diagnosis is almost impossible.
          2. kotvov
            kotvov April 18 2016 10: 41
            0
            if NATO surrounds Russia with military bases, expands and approaches our borders, how do we perceive them ?,
            I watched the broadcast on RTD (by the way, an interesting channel) where the former Danish minister explained, we should be glad that NATO accepted young bullshit. Once again I was convinced that these are eternal enemies.
        5. 222222
          222222 April 17 2016 21: 25
          +18
          Gorodovik (1) RU Today, 19:22 ↑
          But you see them as enemies .. "
          -Do not tell fortunes in a strange land. go to your yard
          -Do not beat the weak ..seek for an equal battle
          - do not teach others how to live and what to do
          -Live on your resources and do not disclose food to strangers
          -Stop being a gag in every hole for your profit
        6. Blondy
          Blondy April 17 2016 22: 50
          +13
          Of course, we see that it was not we who staged a coup in Mexico for them, but they are in Ukraine, and they yell that Russia is the aggressor. We didn’t bomb Yugoslavia into the ground and created an "independent" Kosovo with a Russian military base in the center, Or was it Kozhugetich shaking his asshole in the Federation Council, after which the Aerospace Forces smashed Iraq? Well, over there Libya, Afghanistan, Syria - also Moscow's long arm?
        7. Homo
          Homo April 18 2016 00: 24
          +1
          Quote: Cityman
          But you see enemies in them, why should they think otherwise?

          The fact that we see enemies in them is speculation, but they openly called us the enemy!
        8. Platonich
          Platonich April 18 2016 04: 28
          +1
          But we NEVER attack first, and we do not have such a military doctrine, unlike the Amerdos one!
        9. aksakal
          aksakal April 18 2016 06: 19
          +3
          Quote: Cityman
          But you see enemies in them, why should they think otherwise?

          - Gorodovik, let's not do it ... turn on the point, okay? The USSR, collapsing, gave Germany to unite as a sign of friendship and the fact that it ceased to consider the West an enemy. In response, NATO should have disappeared - not only DO NOT EXPAND, but disappear! What were the further actions of NATO in response to the peace-loving steps of the USSR? What kind of NATO actions have led to the Russian patience snapping, and this resulted in Putin's speech in Munich?
          Gorodovik, you have turned everything upside down - it’s not the Russians who see them as enemies, it’s the Americans who didn’t stop seeing Russians as enemies - not for a minute! The Russians did not see the enemy in America in the first half of the dashing 90s, until it was American actions that made them see it again. NATO eastward expansion, subversive actions and incitements in Chechnya, economic actions of a protege of Amer corporations, called oligarchs, brutal actions to undermine the remnants of Russia's influence in Slavic countries like Yugoslavia - there are few facts that RUSSIANS ARE NOT SEEN IN THE AMERICAN ENEMIES, and Americans DO NOT Ceased to see the Russian enemies.
          I’ll add to you, my dear, skulls - so it will be prettier wassat
        10. bitevka
          bitevka April 18 2016 08: 33
          0
          You attack, we defend ourselves ... why argue?
        11. Tungus
          Tungus April 18 2016 19: 14
          +1
          Well, we are not standing on the Mexican-American border. And not from Canada’s missile defense.
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain April 17 2016 19: 58
        +32
        Quote: Pirogov
        Yes, it’s not even the budget, they will have it anyway, they need the people of America and the EU to see the enemy in Russia, this is a paramount task.

        And they succeeded, you read their speeches, whether you were in a madhouse. recourse
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 April 17 2016 22: 15
          +13
          And here is the evidence that the Russians are conducting ground operations in Syria!
        2. Vasily Krylov
          Vasily Krylov April 17 2016 22: 56
          +2
          I put a plus, and immediately thought, and the irony is available to opponents.
          1. EvgNik
            EvgNik April 18 2016 06: 05
            +1
            Not everyone, Vladimir, not everyone. Already pierced on it.
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    4. fox21h
      fox21h April 17 2016 19: 29
      +12
      I read the article, whining pendosov again, everything is bad with us, everything is fine with the Russians, and if we summarize and discard all verbiage, then with one phrase you can summarize all this
      "GIVE MORE MONEY !!!"
      1. aba
        aba April 17 2016 22: 25
        +1
        I read the article, nagging pendosov again

        Yes, not ... just some kind of muddy streams of consciousness ... Or unconscious ?!
        1. The stranger
          The stranger April 18 2016 01: 34
          +1
          Eh, no. IMHO, this is no longer the weekly wailing on duty "serve up food!". They already have a sad picture, and it looks like the beginning of a program article. I am quite inclined to believe that they are already really puzzled. After all, they essentially do not have a real understanding of a full-fledged combined-arms battle, there is no idea about defense, about a counterattack, about a protracted war, about a big war, much of which is missing. It seems that it is already reaching that the television war, shooters on the Internet, and a large state that does not even think about giving up in delirium, for that has its own views on life - somewhat different things. So they start tweeting.
    5. Monos
      Monos April 17 2016 19: 32
      +26
      “To study the Ukrainian theater of operations in the interests of the prospective development of the ground forces


      Ah, to hell! They study the experience of the war of the pseudo-army against the miners and other irregulars. Giants of American military thought, b.
      1. Rader
        Rader April 17 2016 19: 45
        +5
        In Ukraine, the rapidly mobilized rebel army, which Russia equipped with surprisingly effective tanks, artillery and anti-tank weapons, launched into the air whole swarms of unmanned aerial vehicles and conducted a series of cyber attacks, which brought down tactical communication systems and even GPS.

        How can cyberattacks deduce what was not? The article outlined a bunch of information, poorly structured information, in general, about nothing ... I agree with the phrase
        all this to summarize: "GIVE MORE MONEY !!!"

        Ps The most interesting thing is the answer to the question: Do they really believe in what they are told by the proud ukrovny, or just simply knock out money? ...
        1. Sid.74
          April 17 2016 20: 03
          +29
          Became known informant analysts from pentogon .... laughing

          Now I saw everything ... belay
          1. 79807420129
            79807420129 April 17 2016 20: 54
            +28
            Quote: Sid.74
            Now I saw everything ...

            Not all colleagues, our most important intelligence officer, have not yet been seen. fellow
            1. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch April 17 2016 23: 23
              +12
              Quote: 79807420129
              Not all colleagues, our most important intelligence officer, have not yet been seen.


              And Obamenko’s mom is a Khokhlushka, and dad studied at Lumumba. KGB worked deeply
              1. Tungus
                Tungus April 18 2016 19: 44
                0
                And my grandfather starred in "Maxim". Little black, slept in the circus.
            2. firefighter
              firefighter April 18 2016 06: 04
              +1
              And name that medal "For Service to Russia"
          2. Ilotan
            Ilotan April 17 2016 21: 19
            +1
            It is not treated
        2. Vasily Krylov
          Vasily Krylov April 17 2016 20: 03
          +2
          First-person answer, just money.
          1. cosmos111
            cosmos111 April 17 2016 20: 15
            +1
            Su-24 and US destroyer Donald Cook.


            1. Platonich
              Platonich April 18 2016 04: 56
              +3
              And, excuse me, what the hell is this American crockery rummaging around the world ?!
      2. Lincoln
        Lincoln April 17 2016 20: 13
        -27%
        Quote: Monos
        A-ah-fuck! They study the experience of the war of the pseudo-army against the miners and other irregulars. Giants

        But there is no need to talk about the "miners" here, you can’t hide an sewn in a sack, and these miners are even career soldiers from the ARF "on vacation".
        1. opus
          opus April 17 2016 20: 46
          +10
          Quote: Linkoln
          You can't hide the sewing in a sack, and these miners are even career soldiers from the ARF "on vacation".

          "Oh my God"
          can someone show this "awl" thread?
          For 2 years, except for the fakes of Pssaki and kakloSMI well, never, and you "Can't hide in the mesh"





          and there is still such a stump Erich Hartmann


          This ushlepok can’t even find a Russian troop token, even on the wiki
          1. Lincoln
            Lincoln April 18 2016 01: 03
            -2
            And why so shy if the just cause? For what the disadvantages, it seems like you need to be proud, but not to cut the article for divulging military secrets ....
        2. Monos
          Monos April 17 2016 20: 50
          +10
          Well, what kind of "be-be-be" is this again? Well, finally charge your smartphones and show these troops. You are simply miserable with your statements. Be afraid!
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        4. forester
          forester April 18 2016 00: 32
          +3
          Quote: Linkoln
          Quote: Monos
          A-ah-fuck! They study the experience of the war of the pseudo-army against the miners and other irregulars. Giants

          But there is no need to talk about the "miners" here, you can’t hide an sewn in a sack, and these miners are even career soldiers from the ARF "on vacation".

          Did you write out vacation certificates for them with your own hand? Let me remind you of the words of Nikonov - "There are no tasks in Ukraine that the Russian army will not complete in a few hours" I will add on my own - if ours go to Donbass it will be like in Crimea - one half of the urinovoyak will scatter and the other will be asked to the RF Armed Forces or taken prisoner))))
        5. Homo
          Homo April 18 2016 00: 32
          +1
          Quote: Linkoln
          But there is no need to talk about the "miners" here, you can’t hide an sewn in a sack, and these miners are even career soldiers from the ARF "on vacation".

          I will quote from your former governor of California. "What is your proof!"
    6. gergi
      gergi April 17 2016 20: 11
      +7
      Rave! Reflections of a maniac about invented threats. An incorrect premise leads to erroneous conclusions. Let’s rebuild. Feather them in the ass and the wind in the back. Radish horseradish is not sweeter.
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 April 17 2016 21: 02
        0
        The Ukrainian army managed to repel a large-scale Russian invasion.
        What nonsense is this? What is the intrusion? And why large-scale? Well, apparently because in this way it is easier to knock money out of Congress to increase the military budget.
      2. Michael67
        Michael67 April 17 2016 21: 08
        +2
        No matter what the heads of Merikos’s and commenting heads say, the red thread of all their talking and statements is one. All their policies, subordinated to the bigwigs, are aimed at discrediting Russia, creating in their minds the image of wild Russians who need to be destroyed. And they also believe that our Siberia should belong to them.
        So that all of these discussions are exactly for distracting the brain on particular.
        So that they don’t think about global.
    7. opus
      opus April 17 2016 20: 38
      +3
      Quote: Damm
      Why not analyze, h

      And where is there (in the article) ANALYSIS?
      CE even on the presentation (that is so loved there), does not pull.
      a mess.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 17 2016 21: 08
        +3
        If this were a real analysis of the army, of all the components and capabilities of Russia and the USA, then this work would be the thickness of a Soviet dictionary.
        1. opus
          opus April 17 2016 21: 43
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          - then this work would be the thickness of a Soviet dictionary.

          I (and most) would have been satisfied with the "Essay".
          And this?
          This is porridge, base.
          "seventh water on jelly" - tse to relatives.
          and I’d call the article so.
    8. Stena
      Stena April 17 2016 23: 42
      +2
      Quote: Damm
      What you won’t analyze to snatch the budget

      It’s necessary at the beginning of the article to write to people who do not want to waste time in vain - go directly to the comments - there is more truth ...
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K April 17 2016 18: 44
    +18
    MacMaster, US Army Lieutenant General, intellectual ...
    He intellectually catches up fears and pounds out money for military orders, nothing more.
    Bearing bullshit and no matter what he claims, if only the monsters of the US military-industrial complex were full ...
    1. ejov1976
      ejov1976 April 17 2016 18: 48
      +19
      The fact is that the whole concept of US military operations is focused on the enemy who is obviously weaker. Worse armed and technically behind. It is to suppress all kinds of Papuans that the modern American army is set up. In a collision with an equal enemy in full-scale hostilities, all the shortcomings of the US military machine will immediately come out. Carrier connections are certainly great. Only these are very large targets that are destroyed by one salvo of missiles, which cost a couple of orders cheaper than the carrier group. Radar and air defense are also great. But the Iskanders will turn them into a useless pile of iron. Clever precision weapons are just great. That's just the satellite constellation will be destroyed at the very beginning of the war, and smart rockets and bombs will have to act in conditions of severe interference.
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 18 2016 00: 40
      0
      Quote: Andrey K
      MacMaster, US Army Lieutenant General, intellectual ...


      Yes, there seems to be full of such burdened with intellect. From rank-and-file to generals rise, plans confused with plans:
  3. ejov1976
    ejov1976 April 17 2016 18: 46
    +4
    Well, I understand, they are asking for more money for the army)
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 April 17 2016 19: 17
      +16
      "ejov1976 (2) RU Today, 18:46 New
      Well, I understand, they are asking for more money for the army) "
      Money even tends to run out of money in the United States. I have a feeling that Russia has caught states on the same lines as the USSR states.
      We will have "Zircon", so they will take "Status 6" into service in the coming years. So they have already galloped about poking around everywhere. And the train, bye, bye. Just think about what kind of defense will need to be blinded from "Status 6" .In addition to "protection" from ICBMs of Russia .And cruise missiles of long (namely long) range for 5000 km are hitting already now. Russia has lowered its hounds, hold on gentlemen. Our weapon is real. Unlike your "weapon of the future" hi
  4. soroKING
    soroKING April 17 2016 18: 46
    +9
    the author is not a relative of that hi Bender himself?
    1. avvg
      avvg April 17 2016 19: 55
      +5
      The author is a relative of the "Naglo-Saxons", it is much worse than Bender. Always, forever and ever, the main enemies of Russia are the "Naglo-Saxons".
      1. gg.na
        gg.na April 17 2016 20: 26
        +3
        Quote: avvg
        Russia's main enemies are the "Naglo-Saxons".

        Englishwoman smacks am !
  5. quote
    quote April 17 2016 18: 52
    +15
    “It is clear that while our ground forces fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, Russia studied American capabilities and shortcomings. In Ukraine, a rapidly mobilized rebel army, which Russia equipped with amazingly effective tanks, artillery and anti-tank weapons, launched entire swarms of unmanned aerial vehicles into the air and conducted a series of cyberattacks that disabled tactical communications systems and even GPS.
    Lieutenant General McMaster! While at school we passed the TRP norms "you" ate LSD spoons. And the echo of "your glitches" now I have to read and try to digest the indigestible.
    DB (diagnosis from Dr. Lavrov)!
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 17 2016 18: 53
    +7
    I tried to read. I understood: diarrhea and scrofula, but I’m not a doctor, I can’t help. Him to Preobrazhensky, but that is expensive. In rubles.
  7. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 17 2016 18: 54
    +3
    Russia widely uses political sabotage against the Ukrainian authorities, waging the so-called "hybrid war" in which it combines military power and covert operations to undermine an enemy state.

    Masters of hybrid warfare in the United States recognized the defeat of Russia in this component.
    Well, we adopted their invention and improved it.
  8. Altona
    Altona April 17 2016 18: 57
    +4
    Again I read propaganda nonsense that does not carry a semantic load. In the concept of counter-guerrilla war, the Americans themselves have long become adept, and everything is described in detail in their instructions; the generals there are not all fools. All the same, they think through some operations and win. Russian, Vietnamese, Korean, nothing fundamentally changes. Both parties use the available forces and means, the capabilities of which are not a very big secret.
  9. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher April 17 2016 18: 59
    +7
    And that they saw such a thing there in Ukraine, what impressed them there? Everything that comes from the 70s, the 20th waka. As if they hadn’t seen all this before ... Oh yes, drones. I did not think that Americans can be surprised by drones ...
    1. Rader
      Rader April 17 2016 19: 54
      +4
      Well, in the same article it is said that the Ukrainian military shared their experience of the "war with Russia" with experts from the Pentagon. Well, they talked about hundreds of T-14s which, like the White Tiger, appear out of nowhere, knock everyone down, and then dissolve in the fog ... fellow wassat Although maybe they will remember about the walking KV-2 ... laughing
    2. ludoger
      ludoger April 17 2016 20: 32
      +2
      despite the fact that hahlof, drones probably every 10! more than ours
  10. ser-pov
    ser-pov April 17 2016 19: 03
    +11
    And I especially liked it, "The Ukrainian army was able to repel a full-scale Russian invasion." Looks like Potroshenko did not go to them in vain, he brought something big to smoke ...
    1. Siberia M 54
      Siberia M 54 April 18 2016 06: 45
      0
      The Great Patriotic War. Bandera is called up for military service. His mother laments to him, Oh son, where should I write letters to you? laughing
  11. Same lech
    Same lech April 17 2016 19: 07
    +3
    It cannot be said that the Russian army and its puppets are powerful and invincible.

    Even so... smile

    The US Army also has limitations in its ability to defeat a militarily high-tech country (RUSSIA).
    For RUSSIA, UKRAINE is a red line beyond which the Americans will not cross ...
    several years ago, before the overthrow of YANUKOVICH, I assumed that the US, capturing UKRAINE, would use it as a battering ram against RUSSIA and this moment was beginning to be put into practice.
    We are saved by the fact that there are people in the DPR and LPR who are ready to fight weapons in their hands with US expansion to the east.

    In general, due to the US’s indefatigability to continue military expansion to the east, the degree of tension in the war is increasing, and sometime a direct clash of RUSSIA with the US armed forces should occur, this assumption looks unbelievable today.
    After all, no one supposed 2 years ago that a war would begin against the Russian people in the DPR and LPR.
    And judging by the events in the BALTIC SEA, the situation is moving in this direction.
  12. Monos
    Monos April 17 2016 19: 10
    +30
    This week, two Russian combat aircraft and a helicopter flew over the U.S. Navy in the Baltic Sea several times, despite radio warnings.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 17 2016 19: 14
      +5
      The German beau monde also appeared in a derogatory manner to talk about RUSSIA ... it was time to shake off the dust from the PCA and prepare for the next historic take of BERLIN ... it seems the story will repeat itself.

      German Minister of Defense Ursula von der Leyen stated the need to convince the Baltic NATO allies that they can feel safe, Polish Radio reports. “Russia should not even think about what might challenge the Baltic states,” said Ursula von der Leyen, she said during a conference at the Global Security Forum in Bratislava.
      1. poquello
        poquello April 17 2016 22: 09
        +1
        Quote: The same Lech
        The German beau monde also appeared in a derogatory manner to talk about RUSSIA ... it was time to shake off the dust from the PCA and prepare for the next historic take of BERLIN ... it seems the story will repeat itself.

        German Minister of Defense Ursula von der Leyen stated the need to convince the Baltic NATO allies that they can feel safe, Polish Radio reports. “Russia should not even think about what might challenge the Baltic states,” said Ursula von der Leyen, she said during a conference at the Global Security Forum in Bratislava.

        I got it. The Americans are walking stoned from Afghanistan, the EU means in the dill field has been crafted somewhere, like a conference by the post.
      2. Siberia M 54
        Siberia M 54 April 18 2016 06: 50
        0
        The grandson asks his grandfather: -Grandfather, have you been abroad?
        - There were granddaughters.
        -And where did you get there, by car, by train or by plane?
        -On the tank, in 1945 !!! laughing
    2. 76rtbr
      76rtbr April 18 2016 02: 34
      0
      And the caking mattress!
  13. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 April 17 2016 19: 11
    +3
    It cannot be said that the Russian army and its puppets are powerful and invincible. The Ukrainian army managed to repel a large-scale Russian invasion. And those documents that are distributed among the command of the ground forces and foreign allies indicate that the Russian army in the period from 1985 to 2015 year significantly reduced in number. Many consider as its main drawback conscripts who are poorly prepared and poorly motivated.

    Chairman of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the VI convocation Sergei Naryshkin shared his thoughts with the press about a possible war between Russia and a country whose combat potential is comparable with Ukraine. In his opinion, such a battle could last no more than 4 days. This is reported by the portal "ria.ru".

    “I do not think that the conduct of hostilities between the Russian Federation and the state, whose combat power in potential would be compared with Ukraine, could last longer than 4 days. The final results of this conflict may also not be mentioned, so the result is obvious, ”the chairman of the Union State Parliamentary Assembly said in an interview.

    http://www.vladtime.ru/polit/481657
    Apparently, the US intelligence agencies, US military analysts succumbed to the job, representing the Russian Armed Forces at the level of the 90s.
    There are a lot of problems in our army, but they are being solved. As for the comparison of the quality of the personnel of the US and Russian armies, a qualitative leap is clearly visible here, namely the Russian army ... and, strange as it sounds, the failure of the US army.
  14. BULB TARAS
    BULB TARAS April 17 2016 19: 12
    +8
    "from 1985 to 2015, it significantly decreased in number. Many consider its main drawback to be recruits who are poorly trained and poorly motivated ..." Our conscripts went through such that their "pros" never dreamed of ... but what standards and how conscripts performed in the SA of the USSR, contractors of the Russian Federation can only dream and train for a long time today.
    1. tolancop
      tolancop April 17 2016 20: 16
      +2
      A sensible conscript in the CA if he came to a good commander, then he gained skills in his specialty very quickly. But to contrast it with today's contractor, IMHO, is incorrect. There would be a capable person, but the teachers are sensible, and the contractor or conscript is not the point.
  15. vglazunov
    vglazunov April 17 2016 19: 13
    +1
    They continue to analyze pendosy, it’s a very natural existence for them, the Olympic ring has already expanded to the borders of Russia smile
  16. demiurg
    demiurg April 17 2016 19: 14
    +12
    Ukraine repelled the invasion of Russia. Well, Poroshenko would have blurted out such a thing, but the leading US strategist.
    Covert operations of drones of 8 types against Ukraine, with the involvement of diplomats for cyber attacks at a distance of 2700 meters.
    That's all, I got infected with it, I suffered .... I have two glasses of medicine, or a strategist, but two glasses are better.
  17. Kibl
    Kibl April 17 2016 19: 15
    +5
    Another study of down-and-out idiots !!!! A bald head is not a sign of intelligence! Better give me a pie, resign and write reviews to the Murzilka magazine !!!
  18. Victor-M
    Victor-M April 17 2016 19: 17
    +6
    the Russian army in the period from 1985 to 2015 was significantly reduced in number. Many consider conscripts who are poorly trained and poorly motivated as its main drawback.

    Ask the polished Georgian Georgians, an expert on motivation, or the father of the child killed in the Donbass who is prepared and motivated to destroy the pro-Western satanic scum.
  19. samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 17 2016 19: 19
    +4
    A strange article ... it contains so much controversial that it looks more like the fantasies of an infantile civil journalist ... the Russians horrified American generals: "whole swarms of unmanned aerial vehicles ...", but were reflected (?) By Ukraine ... ???
  20. Tanya
    Tanya April 17 2016 19: 22
    +12
    In Ukraine, a rapidly mobilized rebel army, which Russia equipped with amazingly effective tanks...
    The most amazing of them was IP, removed from the pedestal by teachers and taxi drivers.
    The whole point of this "research": we want to destroy Russia, but she is capable of upsetting us to the point of impossibility. Give us more money, we'll invent something else.
    1. Vasily Krylov
      Vasily Krylov April 17 2016 20: 27
      +1
      I just want to fix it. Research.
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 April 17 2016 21: 09
      +2
      Quote: Tanya
      Give us more money, we will invent something else

      good The key idea!
  21. V.ic
    V.ic April 17 2016 19: 24
    +4
    Found common sense in the article, and which he put a plus (+)
    victory in the battle is ensured by the courage of the Soldier, the character of the commander and the combat experience of well-trained units and subunits. ”

    If I had found in my article a common sense = not for (LU NA) pat ia to Russia, then I would have put TWO pluses.
  22. Verdun
    Verdun April 17 2016 19: 28
    +4
    Always happy with the "secret reports" that can be found on the pages of almost every news site. Not otherwise, this is a deliberate leak of information!))
  23. Navy7981
    Navy7981 April 17 2016 19: 33
    +9
    You can, of course, interpret this article as you please, but if they will seriously build the military use of their army, relying on some kind of information from New Russia, then this is good. Erroneous data on the basis of which subsequent conclusions will be built will lead to the development of errors already in the final result.

    But I wonder if they (the Americans) are really sure what they are saying or is it still a game? Well, it's hard to believe the ultimate stupidity of the Americans. Okay, there, in the country, the Baltic tricks and jumps, or Polish complexes, they are essentially just extras, the damage from which is possible, but cannot be irreparable. In cunning, meanness, deceit (like everything in modern politics, in fact) is believed easily and freely, in stupidity - no. But, if the latter determines the policy, then this is definitely not very good. With a smart bastard, one way or another, you can talk, negotiate, finally figure out how to be with d urakom about that ???
    1. Verdun
      Verdun April 17 2016 19: 42
      +3
      But I wonder if they (the Americans) are really sure what they are saying or is it still a game?

      A significant part of US actions is aimed at simply destabilizing the situation in countries beyond their control. A reigning mess plays into their hands. React to the statements of politicians should only be with an eye on intelligence.
  24. Waciak
    Waciak April 17 2016 19: 44
    +4
    The Americans are best at selling ammunition. The biggest problem is when there is no demand. Their main task is to make artificial requests for weapons. When they fail, they are even able to take offense - most well against Russia - which does not want to cooperate with them on this topic.
    And in this way the connections of the brainwaves in the heads of American generals are multiplying. That is, some benefit from this problem. However.
    laughing
  25. esaul1950
    esaul1950 April 17 2016 19: 51
    +3
    Lord, I'm happy that the American army has such "EXPERTS" as in the article. So we are doing everything right in military policy and we can breathe a little more freely ...
  26. Holsten
    Holsten April 17 2016 19: 59
    +3
    How did they forget to mention the secret KGB agent with the callsign "Bunny", who successfully carried out an operation in the highest echelons of the Ukrainian government to collapse the economy of Independent. Omitting and underestimating the cunning of the Russians, who always take advantage of the innate American decency and naivety.
  27. Flinky
    Flinky April 17 2016 20: 02
    +1
    The U.S. Army has not been seriously attacked by air since 1943

    The American army has never been seriously attacked. The beating of infants cannot be considered as such. Spanked and kicked out, that's all.
    1. Siberia M 54
      Siberia M 54 April 18 2016 06: 54
      0
      Apparently the Japanese raid on Pearl Harbor ...
  28. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 17 2016 20: 03
    +1
    As if these generals in crowds did not throw out the windows. Although I think they understand that the Russian threat is a myth. The reality is that Russia can break into the snout if someone wants to try it on the tooth. So much so that this little tooth with its jaw will fly to hell. And the American is probably on the content of his gunsmiths, and that scares his backlog of state armaments, so that the congressmen are more accommodating, so that the military-industrial complex can snatch money.
  29. Kite
    Kite April 17 2016 20: 06
    +1
    Analyzing Russia's Military Power: A "Secret Study" laughing Pentagon (Politico, United States)
    - and what's the secret? Propaganda quotes regularly repeated? Propaganda is directed at the masses of the population, then the secrecy of what kind of venture she camouflages. Do not idiots think that they can hide, mask with false phrases the results of their activities in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and even more so, in Ukraine?
  30. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov April 17 2016 20: 23
    +6
    Or drunken delirium, or delirium of a drug addict, but clearly the author is not adequate. In general, it’s hard for a normal person to imagine how a country with 145 million people and
    2% of the economy can be dangerous for an alliance with a population of under a billion and an economy of almost 50% of the world. Of course, if we are clamped into a corner and a choice
    will not, we are able to bang the whole world. Well, don’t pinch, let us live,
    you yourself will remain alive, what's the question. So no, the bastard is Anglo-Saxon
    he can’t calm down, everything proves his birthright and the right to command everyone
    the world.
    1. Tanya
      Tanya April 17 2016 21: 12
      +3
      [quote = v.yegorov] In general, it is difficult for a normal person to imagine how a country with 145 million people and
      2% of the economy can be dangerous for an alliance with a population of under a billion and an economy of almost 50% of the world.
      A very interesting answer (from the German) was given to a similar question at the German forum. In this order:
      1. Russians have a lot of gold. 2. They have the best nuclear weapons. 3. They are friends with the Chinese. 4. They have the most beautiful women. Therefore, no one will ever be able to defeat them.
      The reasoning, of course, was naive, she laughed, but I liked the train of thought laughing
  31. gg.na
    gg.na April 17 2016 20: 28
    0
    I read your guys komenty and the conclusion suggests itself what But the National Guard will be needed in RUSSIA what !!!
  32. From Samara
    From Samara April 17 2016 20: 39
    +2
    It's too early ... Russia needs time, especially in the Navy ... there is simply trouble so far.
  33. NHKp
    NHKp April 17 2016 20: 43
    -1
    In addition to nuclear weapons, Russia has nothing more to frighten.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 18 2016 11: 15
      0
      There are people if you did not know. Such that it will not be capturing his scrub to flee from the war from his land. Like Arabs to Europe. Let sometimes a drinker, even if not glossy and not snickering, but proud. If someone does not see this, you don’t understand, he is a stranger.
      1. NHKp
        NHKp 1 May 2016 13: 07
        -1
        So the best minds are already running. Http://www.gazeta.ru/business/2014/10/30/6282685.shtml
  34. The stranger
    The stranger April 17 2016 20: 44
    +1
    Can. They did not see intelligence being used against them. Accustomed to playing a computer game against blind people. From strength to hunting from a helicopter to a steppe animal.
    For me, all these are many bukfs, translated into human ones - they are surprised to discover the combined arms battle. And they have a creepy feeling that they themselves will have to participate in it. And not just shoot unarmed people away from their homes.
    It also says that they will fight for their integrity until the last European. The desire is understandable, but since the Europeans themselves are not going to fight with the Russians, their troops in Europe will suffer unacceptably severely. With domestic political consequences. And again they will have to develop a counterguerrilla doctrine, in connection with the erupted riots in their own territory. The circle is closed.
    Circle of Hell.
  35. witch
    witch April 17 2016 21: 00
    0
    [quote = Gorodovik] Well, let's start with the fact that before the Cold War we had a fairly good relationship, you recall the color plans, what color did the war with Russia reflect there?
    And plans should be for all occasions, even if Martians suddenly go to war with us. Plans are needed so that in the case of day q, do not run and shout what to do. And the dropshop began with the words saying that suddenly Soviet tanks moved to the English Channel.
    Yes, and I did not hear that the Americans want to erase us in nuclear dust. [/ Quote


    AND DO YOU HAPPENLY DO NOT LIKE OBSERVERS OF MATTRESSES ????
  36. NHKp
    NHKp April 17 2016 21: 07
    +1
    The meeting of oil producing countries on "freezing" production ended without an agreement. Here's what to discuss
  37. avia1991
    avia1991 April 17 2016 21: 07
    0
    In general, the "in-depth analysis" is aimed at additional intimidation by the "Russian threat" of their own amerskoy politicians, in order to pull out new and new financial resources for the Pentagon!
    Given that the depth of analysis is determined, for example, by the phrase
    It cannot be said that the Russian army and its puppets are powerful and invincible. The Ukrainian army managed to repel a large-scale Russian invasion.
    , it remains only to laugh and shrug: "children continue to play with their favorite toys" wassat
  38. midashko
    midashko April 17 2016 21: 15
    +1
    Unfortunately, this article is largely only a scary story for American taxpayers and congressmen in order to obtain funding for the US military-industrial complex. We cannot trust such an analyst. Russia can only follow the ancient principle: "If you want peace, prepare for war."
  39. NordUral
    NordUral April 17 2016 21: 56
    0
    Give me money, Congress, the Russians are advancing, ”said the shaved intellectual general.
  40. lozman
    lozman April 17 2016 22: 10
    0
    "The Ukrainian army managed to repel a large-scale Russian invasion"
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    It is a pity that this phrase sounded at the end of the "analysis", otherwise it was boring.
  41. Evgen999
    Evgen999 April 17 2016 22: 21
    0
    In Ukraine, the rapidly mobilized rebel army, which Russia equipped with surprisingly effective tanks, artillery and anti-tank weapons, launched into the air whole swarms of unmanned aerial vehicles and conducted a series of cyber attacks, which brought down tactical communication systems and even GPS.
    ----
    Ukrainians probably personally told horror films. What other swarms of unmanned vehicles? It’s good that even the armata turned out to be garbage: hundreds of the latest tanks knocked out the Ukrainian media even before the presentation at the parade, swarms of drones apparently lost sight of or couldn’t get to them after hundreds of thousands and millions of conscripts who were driven to fight in Donbass with a whip, And what is the cyber attack? There in the Ukrainian army the most advanced device is smartphones in the pocket of military personnel. Hackers attacked them with a series of funny pranks?
  42. poquello
    poquello April 17 2016 22: 46
    0
    Quote: Cityman
    Yugoslavia. You will probably be surprised but the partition of this country was the only way out.

    ))) yeah and revolutionaries in dill, because they lied to the Western media about Yugoslavia, I personally do not have any doubts about the purposeful collapse of this country
  43. Senior manager
    Senior manager April 17 2016 23: 00
    0
    An article is a thrown nut, which we, gathered here for some reason, are chewing. Is this a check on the level of our development? Some kind of dregs.
  44. Borus017
    Borus017 April 17 2016 23: 11
    +1
    It's good that the article has been translated. The United States is slowly preparing to fight. The article published in the media is aimed not at military experts, but at the layman - from this point of view, it should be considered. So: Russians are terribly strong. They are just incredibly strong. Poor yusiki marines are just kids in a sandbox, compared to the "gorillas" from the Airborne Forces - this is the message the author promotes. Only a heroic general, one for the entire American country, knows how to stop the imminent invasion ...
    Does the Hollywood action movie remind you? Allusions about the "Doomsday War" are also typical for the population of the states (very religious-biblical) - and draw an analogy than ended war for the Arabs. So it seems to me that it is not worth it to swell from the world recognition of our merits.
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  46. Starik. 47
    Starik. 47 April 18 2016 00: 17
    +1
    It cannot be said that the Russian army and its puppets are powerful and invincible. The Ukrainian army managed to repel a large-scale Russian invasion.
    Bender did not seem to consult with U.S. intelligence, otherwise he would not have carried such nonsense. Maybe the article is fake and is intended for the European reader or to raise the spirit of ukrov.
  47. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe April 18 2016 00: 42
    +2
    In vain you, gentlemen, fellow citizens, have arranged such a heated discussion of this absurdity. This bullshit, as the saying goes: - "Completely and completely designed for an unprepared internal purely P-i + n-Dostan reader." Of course, we can read this to understand their pin-dan notions about what is happening, but in my opinion we have already known everything about this for a long time.
  48. shinobi
    shinobi April 18 2016 01: 28
    +2
    Chewing gum. And at the same time it very well shows the extreme confusion of the United States in front of the new reality. Not the ability to rebuild and adapt. Pearls about repelling "massive aggression in Ukraine" cause bewilderment. If this is the real position of the Yankees army, then they are doomed, because the first rule of the strong , no self-deception.
  49. wandlitz
    wandlitz April 18 2016 04: 50
    +1
    The Ukrainian army managed to repel a large-scale Russian invasion ....
    It is interesting, based on what facts such a "discovery" came to mind to Mr. Sullivan, зwho was an animated post of chief of staff of the ground forces from 1991 to 1995 for the year, and now he heads the non-governmental organization for the defense of the interests of the military Association of the US Army.
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