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Stop nursing Poroshenko - this is fraught with serious consequences (Foreign Policy, USA)

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Stop nursing Poroshenko - this is fraught with serious consequences (Foreign Policy, USA)



Today, only serious criticism from the West can save Ukraine from itself. And bad if it does not happen

For those few who believe that the resignation of Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk will stop the process of Ukraine’s slipping into a political crisis, I bring clarity: no, it will not stop. In fact, the most likely result will be that the country continues to plunge into chaos. The man at the center of all Ukrainian problems — Petro Poroshenko — still refuses to wage a fight against rampant corruption, which enrages Ukrainians and stifles the Ukrainian economy. And thanks to the West, which continues to support Poroshenko, he further strengthens his position in power.

This is not to say that the problem was not in Yatsenyuk: this politician, who speaks excellent English, favored by Washington and the IMF, was at the center of many scandals, and many times he was accused of having links with the old cohort of Ukrainian oligarchs. His attempts to carry out the reforms prescribed by the International Monetary Fund, to the special results did not lead - except that adversely affected his ratings.

But this crisis was not provoked by the fact that Yatsenyuk turned out to be a bad prime minister. The crisis began back in February when two authoritative high-ranking reformers resigned - Economic Development Minister Aivaras Abromavicius and Deputy General Prosecutor Vitaly Kasko, who said they could no longer see how attempts to carry out reforms were constantly blocked by people from Poroshenko’s inner circle. “The more radical steps we took, the deeper our reforms were, the more our progress was, the more we were pressed back,” wrote Abromavicius in his statement. “It is not law and law that work here, but arbitrariness and lawlessness,” Kasko added.

These resignations had the effect of a bombshell, and after that events began to develop rapidly. 16 in March, a respected anti-corruption fighter and member of parliament, Sergei Leshchenko, in his interview stated that Poroshenko put pressure on him several times so that he would not speak out against sharp criticism of Attorney-General Viktor Shokin, explaining that Shokin is "part of his family ". Then, at the end of March, the Petro Poroshenko Bloc, with the help of a new law, deprived the deputy mandates of two members of the Verkhovna Rada, who publicly accused the president’s allies of corruption. And even though the president dismissed Shokin, the attorney-general, who had discredited himself, finally ordered to fire David Sakvarelidze, another deputy, who said that Shokin had personally prevented him from fighting corruption.

Based on these and other examples of exposing corruption and intimidation, a very sobering picture emerges: with regard to Kiev’s inability to fight the rampant corruption that swept the whole country, Poroshenko and his close circle are part of this problem.

"The desire to change one person has blinded the politicians," Yatsenyuk said in a statement, resigning. He is, of course, a liar - but at least in this he is right.

Poroshenko (a billionaire, known for several decades because he did not have a firm position and was neither for the West nor for Russia, and that he was interested only in his own money) lost all authority of a reformer, which he, perhaps, once had. Probably, if Yatsenyuk had been replaced by some independent politician, the new prime minister could revive the fading process of reform. At some point there were rumors that the main contender for this post is Natalia Yaresko - the US Treasury Secretary, who is highly appreciated in the United States and international organizations for her work in restructuring Ukrainian debt and for a number of other measures. However, now, apparently, the new prime minister will be Parliament Speaker Vladimir Groysman. Unlike Yatsenyuk, whose party the Popular Front does not depend on Poroshenko’s bloc, Groisman is considered by many to be merely a presidential protege and no more. The end result will not be a restructuring of power, but its consolidation, since Poroshenko appoints his supporter to the place of prime minister.

Inheritance from the Poroshenko-Yatsenyuk government is a series of dirty and despicable attempts to hinder the implementation of reforms in one way or another. As US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland said in her 15 report in March, Washington does not take into account the very real danger that Ukraine "will roll back toward corruption, lawlessness and again become a dependent state." It is difficult to imagine that the government of Poroshenko-Groysman (read Poroshenko-Poroshenko) will be better. Today, the only chance for serious changes should come from Ukraine.

Until now, the West did not want to exert pressure on Ukraine. A good example of this is Poroshenko’s visit to Washington on March 31. Then the Ukrainian president had a terrible week. She began with a scandal in connection with the dismissal of Sakvarelidze on the orders of Shokhin. That week ended with the protestors starting to burn tires on the streets of Kiev after it became known from the Panama Documents leaked to the press that on the day when Ukrainian soldiers died in fierce battles with pro-Russian separatists, Poroshenko was engaged in opening offshore accounts.

And between these terrible events Poroshenko had dinner at the White House, where he was given 335 millions of dollars and promised to give another million in the near future.

Dinner Poroshenko in the circle of those in power has become another illustration of what today is already a predictable scenario. Every few months, the government is shaken by regular corruption allegations. Western diplomats are meeting to make comments and ask Ukrainian leaders to think about their people. Kiev promises to improve. The West is changing anger for mercy. In the meantime, the reforms stand still, the control of the oligarchs is increasing, and the Ukrainian people are beginning to experience even greater disappointment.

The reason for the seemingly endless patience of the West is quite obvious, and the name of this reason is Moscow. It is hard to imagine that the shameless Kiev kleptocracy would be given another “last” chance many times if Ukraine had a conflict with, say, Burkina Faso. But Kiev is in a state of confrontation with Russia - a country that many in NATO consider the main threat, which gives Ukraine a symbolic and strategic importance.

No one understands this (and does not use it) better than the Ukrainian oligarchs. That is why all attempts to force Kiev to take responsibility for the lack of reforms cause an outburst of indignation in response, designed to remind the West that the oligarchs are fighting back Russia, fighting for democracy and defending Western values. (See Poroshenko’s response to the editorial article “Invincible Corruption in Ukraine,” published by the New York Times on March 10 in 31, the authors of which warn that the United States “cannot pump money into a corrupt swamp” until Kiev carries out serious reforms. Poroshenko’s article blamed the New York Times — whose editorial office was extremely sympathetic to its post-Maidan government — participation in a “hybrid war” conducted by the Kremlin against Ukraine).

From the point of view of real politics, it’s not a fact that pumping money into a corrupt swamp is a failed strategy. During the Cold War, the United States and the Soviet Union used it to win loyalty to regimes, the junta, and dictators, whose financial policies — not to mention respect for human rights — left much to be desired. The problem (besides the moral consequences) is that the principle "Our Man in Kiev" in Ukraine will not work. Washington can tolerate Poroshenko to infinity, but the Ukrainian people will not tolerate.

In the fall of 2013, pent-up rage against Viktor Yanukovych, a corrupt pro-Russian oligarch who flouted the law, spilled into the streets of Kiev. Crowding out corruption and replacing it with legal norms was one of the goals for which the Maidan revolution began, for the sake of which people endured the fierce cold under the blows of truncheons and under the bullets of the police special forces. Three years later, in the news and social media is again feeling the same rage - only this time it is directed against the pro-Western oligarch Poroshenko.

While the West is distracted by the presidential elections of the United States and the migration crisis, Ukraine is turning into a steam boiler in the very center of Europe - a hotbed of tension the size of Texas and a population of 45 million people. And the pressure there is growing - with each new scandal, with each editorial comparing Poroshenko with his overthrown predecessor, with each disappointed retired and resigned. Sooner or later, Poroshenko or someone from his entourage will do something so inexcusable and ugly that it will provoke a new wave of protests.

True, the difference between Ukraine 2013 and 2016 years is measured by two years of war, almost ten thousand killed and more than two million refugees and internally displaced persons. Ukraine is flooded weaponsthe population in its southeastern regions is hostile, the Ukrainian military is disappointed, the country's economy has recently been balanced on the brink of total collapse, and, most importantly, the far-right militants are armed to the teeth. Apparently, the next uprising will lead to the collapse of the country.

Thanks to the “Panama Papers” one new and much speaking fact became known. It turned out that the process of impeachment of the president is not registered in the Ukrainian constitution. Indeed, in a country with an extremely low level of trust in the authorities, such a process is not needed. All impeachments will take place on the streets - both in 2004 and 2014 years - among burning tires and shouting “shit!” (“Shame!”). But neither Ukraine nor Europe can afford to allow this to happen today.

The West must recognize this danger, stop this whole circus, portraying Poroshenko as a knight of democracy, and force it to put into action real and tangible reforms. Sluggish recommendations like the vaguely expressed wish of the State Department to form a “new cabinet, determined to carry out the necessary reforms” cannot be helped here. Now Syria and Libya are testing Europe for strength, bringing it to the brink of rupture. Imagine that the same failing state will start with the 45-million population located in the very center of Europe.
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http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/13/the-toxic-coddling-of-kiev-ukraine-poroshenko-yatsenuk/
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  1. Error
    Error April 17 2016 12: 20
    +14
    Survived criticism from the west can save Ukraine! And they were eager to get there that there is nothing to pay for the apartment! As they say, everything is relative
    1. just exp
      just exp April 17 2016 13: 04
      +44
      and I remember the video when polite people stood at the post and a cormorant with the flags of the USSR walked towards them bleating that they say "we are brothers, why are you going to shoot at this flag" and so on in this style, until one cormorant could not stand it and howled that they say "America is with us."
      I want to see him kakla now and in about a year, and ask him - "Well, son, did your 3.14ndos help you?" , "all the worlds?" ...
      oh hard it will be at kaklov maidan hangover.
      1. The black
        The black April 17 2016 13: 07
        +48
        Love was passionate but short-lived laughing
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka April 17 2016 14: 59
          +10
          Love was passionate but short-lived

          Yes, just the bride turned out to be used ... request
          1. The black
            The black April 17 2016 16: 19
            +21
            Yes, just the bride turned out to be used ...
            ... not only does the used one, it also bruises in a non-childish way, and twists novels - either with the right-wingers, then with the homosexuals, then it shoots Perdogan with eyes ... wassat
        2. yuriy55
          yuriy55 April 17 2016 15: 25
          +23
          Quote: Black
          Love was passionate but short-lived laughing


          So much currency was paid for this love. fellowand this allows us to conclude that in reality we had the opportunity to see firsthand the most banal case of currency prostitution ... wink
        3. weksha50
          weksha50 April 17 2016 16: 39
          +4
          Quote: Black
          Love was passionate but short-lived



          And such a bride ... Yes, for that kind of money ... Yes, pregnant with all sorts of filth such as a thirst for profit (now called corruption) ...

          Here Barak in the photo was thoughtful - but did he set that horse ???
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain April 17 2016 15: 26
        +28
        Quote: just explo
        oh hard it will be at kaklov maidan hangover.

        It will be a terrible hangover. No.Nobody needs these fucking horses. yes
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 April 17 2016 16: 43
          +3
          Quote: vovanpain
          Nobody needs these fucking horses.



          The inscription on the shirt: "Thank you, God, that I am not ... eh" ...

          And in my old age, everything seems to me that: "Thank you, God, that I am not" ... a jumping dragonfly, in short ...
        2. Lelek
          Lelek April 17 2016 19: 21
          +1
          Quote: vovanpain
          It will be a terrible hangover.



          "Until the sun rises, the dew will eat up your eyes." Until the little heads of the Ukrainians fall into place, the rulers can do a lot of stupidity and crimes. Vaughn Svidomo Baptist-defrocked already offers to shoot down Russian planes. This could have been taken for the delirium of a madman, if it had not been taken seriously by the so-called People's Deputies. VRU and "Makhnovists" in uniform. So, it's still far from the hangover and sobering up.
          (cry.)
      3. Iline
        Iline April 17 2016 16: 00
        +15
        EC, wimps in the EU!
        And two years have not passed before they began to whine.
        No, now you’re going to enjoy Ukraine as much as Russia (for more than twenty years), but spit out money at least in the same amount, and indeed enter a visa-free regime. And then you will be pleased to catch a delicious spit in your face from a grateful country. Nothing personal - such a mentality.
      4. 73bor
        73bor April 17 2016 16: 53
        +1
        Everything is very simple until the authorities in Ukraine turn to face people, there will be no sense in any reforms! Apparently, they do not want to turn to people, face, they just want to sit down.
      5. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris April 17 2016 17: 22
        +4
        No guys shit-bucks .. This is your suitcase without a handle, your karma. You should carry all this.
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU April 17 2016 13: 12
      +10
      Hollywood plums injured:

      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 April 17 2016 13: 35
        +54
        The reason for the West's seemingly endless patience is quite obvious, and the name for this reason is Moscow.

        As always, Putin is to blame for everything: smile
        1. Starik. 47
          Starik. 47 April 17 2016 18: 19
          +2
          Klaaaaaa!
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. siberalt
      siberalt April 17 2016 14: 13
      +28
      Good news:
      - E. Kiselev kicked out of the Ukrainian channel "Inter".
      - 83% of Ukrainians do not believe the new prime minister.
      - Schuster’s program for tax fraud was fined 13 million hryvnias.
      - Residents of Vinnitsa demand Groysman to be imprisoned for plundering the region as its governor.
      - from the Japanese media reports about the ugly behavior when intoxicated by the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko during his visit.
      1. hartlend
        hartlend April 17 2016 15: 20
        +20
        In my understanding, the good news is when scientists made a useful discovery, built a new plant, a school. Nowadays, a stream of "chernukha" is pouring from the media and we begin to perceive bad news from "partners" as pleasant. This is not a reproach to you personally, rather an example of how our brains have been reformatted.
      2. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko April 17 2016 18: 36
        +4
        and what? as our woodpeckers gave gas to kaklam, they will, they are good and do not "want" to be at enmity with us !!! and in general I am tired of this circus with Ukraine. it is time to use power: they are blockading and they are under complete blockade, no discounts and preferences. even though the relatives live there, but still: the visa regime, to work with us - on the migrant worker's card, to ban transfers to Ukraine, and all the cases ... in a short time, they will either throw off the pig or put things in order! and they will climb to us ... yes, for God's sake, I have not forgotten how in 69 they made Soviet power to love in the Soviet army! hi
      3. Lelek
        Lelek April 17 2016 19: 30
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        siberalt


        Hey.
        Oleg, add to what you said:
        (cry.)
      4. Platonich
        Platonich April 18 2016 05: 13
        +1
        ... how it looks like Yeltsin! Go the same way!
  2. cniza
    cniza April 17 2016 12: 21
    +20
    Already fed up with this tyagomotin called Ukraine, it is time to complete this performance and let the people live and work quietly.
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 April 17 2016 12: 28
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      it's time to complete this performance
      The theater begins with a wardrobe, and Ukrainian politics with the Supreme Rhoda. Anyone who has contemplated the process of representing the government for many years will agree that the current presentation of the new government in Verkhovna Rada was really a theater, moreover, a theater for young spectators!
      1. Thrall
        Thrall April 17 2016 12: 33
        +18
        This drunken politician himself will never leave.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev April 17 2016 12: 54
          +7
          Quote: Thrall
          This drunken politician himself will never leave.

          If Potsya lifts a finger against corruption, look with cement on the foot in the Dnieper.
      2. Pavel Tsybai
        Pavel Tsybai April 17 2016 12: 46
        +24
        It is just glad.
      3. novobranets
        novobranets April 17 2016 15: 45
        +14
        Quote: Vladimir61
        The theater begins with a wardrobe, and Ukrainian politics with the Supreme Rhoda.

    2. larand
      larand April 17 2016 12: 44
      +8
      Quote: cniza
      Already fed up with this tyagomotin called Ukraine, it is time to complete this performance and let the people live and work quietly.

      So no one knows how to complete. In a psychiatric hospital they distributed machine guns and opened all the doors. Now you can’t collect the loonies anymore, you have to wait until you have a break or shoot out. And maybe through the fence to visit the neighbors.
    3. The black
      The black April 17 2016 12: 53
      +8
      GDP: "If someone decided to drown, it is no longer possible to save him.". (from unpublished) laughing.... The pig has grown up and turned into a big drunken pig, it's time to slaughter. Then all the "democratic mistakes" on Petrushka will be shoved.
    4. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 17 2016 12: 55
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      The West must recognize this danger, stop all this circus, portraying Poroshenko as a knight of democracy, and force him to put into effect real and tangible reforms.

      "The West must acknowledge this danger, stop this whole circus portraying Poroshenko as a knight of democracy, and force him to put in place real and tangible reforms."
      La la la. And nothing has changed.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 April 17 2016 13: 28
        +2
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        La la la. And nothing has changed.

        So clear business! Where is that cart and be? Fulfillment of such an ultimatum for Poroshenko is suicide. Fortunately for him, it is impossible. Not for him, not even for Yareska. Because who and how will do all this? Hipsters who got to the police there? Effective people, why there ... And all the rest are thieves. No, there are no thieves ... there are bandits and murderers. Well, there’s nobody else. Unless there is Nyei, with a wiring through which it is controlled from the American embassy. You can’t put this in the president’s chair; the wiring in the doors is always confused.
        Hopelessness, however ...
    5. 30BIS
      30BIS April 17 2016 12: 59
      +8
      Acquired Ukraine
      To the edge.
      Gіrshe lyaha svі dіti
      Розї rozpinayut.Iz verses T.G. Shevchenko And the dead, and the living, and the unborn
    6. marl
      marl April 17 2016 13: 03
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      it's time to complete this performance

      Early. Not everything has been stolen yet.
    7. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad April 17 2016 14: 28
      +16
      That's right. And people will have another holiday.
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      2. Weyland
        Weyland April 17 2016 22: 52
        +1
        Quote: x.andvlad
        And people will have another holiday.


        Actually, it’s still Khoja Nasreddin Tamerlane was shitting ... laughing
  3. sir_obs
    sir_obs April 17 2016 12: 22
    +8
    Galimatia, you need to stop babysitting with the whole country. Nothing will change from the rearrangement of clowns.
  4. bronik
    bronik April 17 2016 12: 26
    +7
    Parsley-Petruccio-Pedro already got the whole civilized world. About him and the joke:

    In one thing, Putin is wrong - neither Erdogan nor Poroshenko can drown ... Well, it does not sink ...
  5. Egoza
    Egoza April 17 2016 12: 29
    +11
    Well, with the "new" prime minister, we had as many as 6 deputy prime ministers, by the way, 6 representatives of the memory department also appeared among the ministers, they finally achieved it. And what "gives hope" this team, together with the BP, which Petya has the right to dissolve, will try, if not impeachment, then a referendum (why are we worse than Crimea?) On Petya's resignation. But we will only decide who will be next, and we will call on "leave for the good, before everything is taken away." So we wait, sir, as I understand it, until autumn.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 April 17 2016 16: 50
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      By the way, among the ministers, 6 representatives of the memory also appeared, finally made



      Khm ... Consider the bride given to Poland ???
    2. Lelek
      Lelek April 17 2016 19: 46
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      Egoza


      Hi Elena.
      Well, it's clear that what has grown has grown. But really the people do not see all this "lewdness"? Or is it really that he (the people) was so brain-riveted that he was ready to crunch and chew potassium cyanide? It remains only to sympathize and hope that something will happen that will heal and wipe the eyes and ears.
      I would also like to ask: how did your region react to the ban on the "Mejlis"?
      (cry.)
    3. gg.na
      gg.na April 17 2016 20: 35
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      So we wait, sir, as I understand it, until the fall.

      And here is me what I think that maybe nothing can come of it winked Aha!
  6. VP
    VP April 17 2016 12: 30
    +8
    Hehe, the Americans are confronted with seclusion. They have not yet figured out how they got in. The rampant corruption is bullshit, they have not yet understood at whose expense the banquet will be, they are now simply obliged to feed their entire country, otherwise "Ukraine will not be able to resist the growing pro-Russian elements." The good old, worked out to automatism taming)
    1. ver_
      ver_ April 17 2016 14: 30
      +4
      "... Satan rules the show there .."
  7. pts-m
    pts-m April 17 2016 12: 31
    +1
    A cauldron called ... urine ... has not yet begun to boil, hi are boiled in their village. There is no time for the owner of the "stew", you must have fun before retiring.
  8. samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 17 2016 12: 31
    +4
    "The problem ... is that the 'Our Man in Kiev' principle will not work in Ukraine. Washington can tolerate Poroshenko indefinitely, but the Ukrainian people will not."
    Even as "may," the Ukrainian people were turned into a tolerant place towards Europe, facing the ATO. "Puppies" will be sent to Donbass until ... God only knows when this "bye" will come.
    1. ver_
      ver_ April 17 2016 15: 18
      +1
      ..as pop pops coming ..
      1. volodya
        volodya April 17 2016 15: 44
        +7
        It’s for sure, but until they pull it all away, they won’t leave!
  9. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 17 2016 12: 34
    +2
    The fight against corruption is carried out with the goal of distracting the country's population from solving the fundamental problems of the state and society. No more.
    Corruption arose with the emergence of the state. As long as there is power, there will be corruption.
    All of us are more or less corrupt when we give gifts to our boss, looking for his location or to our family members to maintain good relations ...
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik April 17 2016 13: 10
      +6
      Quote: Pvi1206
      All of us are more or less corrupt when we give gifts to our boss

      Never in my life gave anyone a paw.
      And this is the future of Poroshenko, let him get used to it:
  10. iouris
    iouris April 17 2016 12: 56
    +6
    There is no Pravda newspaper in the USA. Do not absolutize the private opinion expressed in the magazine. The United States is an empire, so even in the Obama administration there is no ideological unity on specific issues. It must be borne in mind: Biden is responsible for Poroshenko, and not, for example, Kerry. Kerry is not responsible for anything at all, because all US "foreign policy" is actually domestic.
  11. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 April 17 2016 13: 05
    +7
    The author of the article softens everything and the picture is distorted.
    Hoping for a democratic transformation in Ukraine, where power belongs to those who received it after an unconstitutional coup?
    The right to violence in Ukraine received a fascist formation, is this democracy?
    In vain they criticize the IMF for the lack of reforms - impoverishment of the population has already happened - this is what IMF assistance always leads to. Not only the current generation, but also their great-great-great-grandchildren will not be able to pay debts. Or should they die out faster?
    The article talks about one thing - the process of degradation of Ukraine has already entered such a stage that an outcome is possible only fatal. Therefore, all the organizers wash their hands. A wallet called Ukraine lies on the road, already without money, but filled with a surprise, and whoever poses for it will be bitterly sorry.
  12. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 17 2016 13: 07
    +6
    Let's estimate ...
    Gunpowder, his gang, Rada, Natsik.
    There are the remains of the defense industry and the little things ...
    About a couple of lyamas are gaining population, not more.
    This is the number of people the West is willing to pay for
    so that they would not let us live in peace.
    The rest of the population is not interested in the West at all,
    The rest of the population was to be occupied by the government:
    feed-drink-treat-protect and stuff.
    And the government decided that since they’re not paying for it,
    then they will not do it. Money then they go ...
    This is the difference between being in our and Western spheres of influence.
    We try to pay and support everyone,
    and the West pays only to those who work for it.
    And go out and say that besides these two, and even three million,
    the country no longer needs anyone, Poroshenko can’t.
  13. Awaz
    Awaz April 17 2016 13: 10
    +7
    struck the phrase that Yanek was a pro-Russian dill .. Yes, he spun as he could to please everyone, especially Washington. But with Russia, he was forced to compromise on the fact that economically Ukraine was almost completely dependent on the Russian Federation. And on the topic of high technology and space with aviation, it is completely from Russia.
    This text is for the Western man in the street. A normal Russian and even adequate and sometimes inadequate Ukrainian reader knows all this and could have written something like that “on the knee” two years ago.
    1. ver_
      ver_ April 17 2016 14: 50
      +3
      ..ag, but can be shorter - .. like a louse on a plexiglass ..
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 17 2016 13: 14
    +6
    The flat spin, which Maidania got into, has no means of "withdrawing" - not the same pilots at the helm. It's just that a huge country has tremendous momentum, and the process is proceeding slowly, without causing the feeling of an impending catastrophe.
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 17 2016 13: 37
    +1
    Is the board drunk, cunning, and sick? Who it? Petska from Roshen! laughing
  16. krops777
    krops777 April 17 2016 13: 43
    +2
    In a word. Ghoul.
  17. UVB
    UVB April 17 2016 13: 49
    +26
    Something like this turns out:
    1. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka April 17 2016 15: 04
      +6
      Something like this turns out:

      I would change the last - would rather bang ... sad
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 April 17 2016 15: 23
        +2
        I would change the last - would rather bang ...
        Well done
  18. Termit1309
    Termit1309 April 17 2016 13: 56
    +3
    “The more radical steps we took, the deeper our reforms were, the more our progress was, the more we were pressured in response,” Abromavicius wrote in a statement. “It is not law and law that work here, but arbitrariness and lawlessness,” Kasko added.

    Corruption is certainly bad. But it makes sense to fight corruption and deepen reforms if the country's economy is in deep z.o.p. And there she was for completely different reasons — the civil war and the deliberate severance of ties with Russia.
    I highly suspect that corruption is just an excuse not to give Poroshenko money. And even if he accomplishes the impossible and defeats this corruption itself, which is a miracle in itself, then he will not see money. They will find another reason, well, they will say that he violates someone’s rights. Gays or raccoons. laughing
  19. Kibl
    Kibl April 17 2016 14: 11
    +6
    That's right, as long as Ukraine is spoiling Russia, PARAShenko can sleep peacefully. Washington will not let him touch his finger, but about Maidan 3.0, so Pedro will disperse, shoot, or hand over tanks like the Chinese in Tiananmen Square in 1989. And I’m sure that he’s all it will get away with it, everything is democratic and in a civilized manner in the West!
  20. soroKING
    soroKING April 17 2016 14: 16
    0
    Quote: Error
    Survived criticism from the west can save Ukraine! And they were eager to get there that there is nothing to pay for the apartment! As they say, everything is relative

    Druk is known in bidet bully
  21. pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 April 17 2016 14: 24
    +1
    Common practice for Americans. By dumping the blame on one Poroshenko, they shield the Yatsenyuk. "This is a son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch!" request
  22. sounddoc
    sounddoc April 17 2016 14: 40
    +7
    Well, what, cotton wool, finally we will prove that it was not for nothing that we were jumping with pots on our heads, looting in Donbass, robbing state employees and pensioners, yelling "Heroes lard!" !!!!! Our great President and no less great Prime Minister will soon raise Ukraine to unprecedented heights !!!!!!!!! Look, envy !!!!!)))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))
  23. 31rus2
    31rus2 April 17 2016 14: 42
    -1
    Dear, we are pointing the West, the USA with your finger, but what have you done?
  24. HAM
    HAM April 17 2016 14: 43
    +2
    Friends, everything is going well on Urkain, life is getting better, people are getting stronger and getting richer, goods are heaped up, Europe loves (in all places), and then pigs got divorced, and fat !!! .... I envy quietly .... crying
    1. gg.na
      gg.na April 17 2016 19: 17
      +2
      Quote: HAM
      Quietly I envy ....

      What envy do you envy ?! belay Black Ali White !? wassat You good gee-gee-gee +++ !!!!!!
  25. Gennady85
    Gennady85 April 17 2016 15: 04
    0
    And how long will this go on ?? When will come to power in Ukraine such as Our Putin ??? sad
    1. ver_
      ver_ April 17 2016 15: 29
      +3
      ... never .. "the climate there is different, there are avalanches one after another and after .."
    2. dauria
      dauria April 17 2016 16: 59
      +4
      When will come to power in Ukraine such as Our Putin ???


      When the billionaires finish carving up, strangle their competitors, push them over the hillock "who did not fit into the flock" of adventurers. There will be a strong close-knit pack, observing their "internal" rules, then they will choose a screen, and begin to do what is supposed to be done in the market - cut sellers and buyers and maintain order and cleanliness. wink
      There is one "BUT" - a thorny leash in the form of the IMF debt. We will not succeed at all. At least we had oil and gas, but the years were "fat" at their price. But the credit wool was cut off from us by western hucksters.
    3. volodya
      volodya April 17 2016 18: 12
      +9
      They choose these!
  26. black
    black April 17 2016 15: 10
    +3
    Not the most central publication in the States. Competent opinion, but not loud.
  27. nrex
    nrex April 17 2016 15: 20
    +6
    I will not be surprised to hear from Husseinich soon - support for the Maidan in 2014 was a mistake.
  28. olegyurjewitch
    olegyurjewitch April 17 2016 15: 43
    +2
    Quote: Gennady85
    When will come to power in Ukraine such as Our Putin ??? sad

    Such has not yet ripened. Yes, and it will not ripen soon, because there are no seeds.
  29. KRIG55
    KRIG55 April 17 2016 15: 52
    +2
    Now the exclusive nation has every reason to bomb Ukraine, hang its president, tear the country into 15-20 separate republics and observe the rapid development of democracy. And most importantly - hang all this misunderstanding on the neck of the EU or Russia (preferably the latter).
  30. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 17 2016 16: 00
    +6
    "... The crisis began in February, when two authoritative high-ranking reformers resigned - Minister of Economic Development Aivaras Abromavichus and Deputy Prosecutor General Vitaly Kasko ..."
    Abalde! Finally AUTHORITIES! Is that enough brains to jump off almost at the last moment. That's right now schnapps pouring on the joys! drinks
    "... As US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland stated in her March 15 report, Washington does not take into account the very real danger that Ukraine" will slide back into corruption, lawlessness and become a dependent state again. " Ie at the moment corruption in Ukraine is defeated, the law prevails, and independence is pouring over the edge? Nu-nu ...
  31. weksha50
    weksha50 April 17 2016 16: 09
    +2
    “As US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland said in her March 15 report, Washington does not take into account the very real danger that Ukraine“ will slide back into corruption, lawlessness and will become a dependent state again ”"...

    Fu you well you ... And now she (Ukraine) is independent ???

    It is strange in general that Poroshenko took such a step that instead of Yaresko, Groissman, his supporter, took the place of the prime minister ...

    So he tried to prove his "independence" ???

    Let YOUR dismantlings be carried out by ourselves ... We will look from the outside ... However, God forbid again to look, to the fact that in Ukraine there will be military units and NATO missile defense, the whole situation is leading ...
  32. demo
    demo April 17 2016 16: 15
    +9
    In the fall of 2013, a restrained rage towards Viktor Yanukovych, who was violating the law of a corrupt pro-Russian oligarch, spilled out onto the streets of Kiev. The crowding out of corruption and its replacement by legal norms was one of the goals for which the Maidan revolution began, for the sake of which people suffered a severe cold under the blows of batons and under the bullets of militia special forces.

    And this is how the halo of the great deed — the Revolution of Dignity — is created.
    If it weren’t for Yanukovych’s mess, then 10-20 corpses of Nalivaychenko, Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, Turchinov, Tymoshenko, etc. could be dispensed with.
    And everything would be in openwork.
    Yes, I forgot. Victoria Nuland.
  33. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 17 2016 16: 26
    +2
    Well, you give a pancake, not for that. Offal came to restore order. He did the main thing, ravaged the banderlogy and tore it as far as he could from Russia, but there is still his own pocket, and while there is an opportunity to fill it at the expense of striped ones, you’ll drive him out of there. A banderlog him a light bulb, let them jump since there’s no mind, who managed to grab it, and who else can.
  34. nstarinsky
    nstarinsky April 17 2016 17: 00
    +2
    At the very beginning of the article:
    ..Peter Poroshenko-still refuses to fight the rampant corruption, which enrages Ukrainians ...

    Was it they who made Maidan out of rage? This, apparently, corruption forced Poroshenko to open a business in Russia. And now he refuses to fight, but does not refuse the factory. It also turns out that the only thing that Ukraine lacked from the very beginning since the collapse of the USSR was critics ... Do not forgive the critics, namely the Western ambassador. The cookies were also distributed very critically. And they created a military base near Lviv to bring closer criticism. Oh, how we all try to rub naivety!
  35. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov April 17 2016 17: 01
    +1
    Only a dictator such as Pinochet can keep Ukraine from decay. For a while.
    But with that great crash, it will then fly apart into several parts, passing
    through the bloody wars of everyone with everyone.
  36. Olegater
    Olegater April 17 2016 17: 14
    +3
    Well, dear forum users may not be on the topic, but now I read an article on the political review site "UKRAINIAN WIKILEAKS" PUBLISHED SAAKASHVILI'S TALK THREATENING HIM BY THE HAGUE TRIBUNAL "... Read will not regret it. There, in short, a conversation between Sukashvili and an unknown accomplice. The bottom line is that the Syrian special forces in one of the liberated cities of Syria covered a hospital for transplantation of human organs. And the leader of this outrage is somehow connected with Sukashvili. In general, an incomprehensible topic. But this (the removal of organs on the territory of military conflicts) has already become the norm. Psi.n.d.s.s. are involved in all this muck. and their mongrels. I wish I could publish it all over the world now. And then the exceptional will fall to the bottom of an exceptionally deep "pit" where they belong.
  37. vobels
    vobels April 17 2016 17: 37
    +1
    ".. Poroshenko or someone from his entourage will do something so unforgivable and ugly that it will provoke a new wave of protests .." So they do not stop doing this ugly and unforgivable. But there are no serious protests! Patient is the dill people.
  38. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 17 2016 17: 47
    +13
    without comments
  39. Starik. 47
    Starik. 47 April 17 2016 18: 25
    0
    "The West must recognize this danger, stop this whole circus depicting Poroshenko as a knight of democracy ..."And do not interfere in the affairs of a sovereign state.
  40. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 April 17 2016 18: 30
    +1
    Sho kupuvala - yishta, your eyes bobbed at least, climb up! ...
  41. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn April 17 2016 18: 31
    +2
    You angry, gentlemen, Proshaychenko do not understand! Looked at Savik Shuster (this Judas, who was still from Afgan with Salang against the background of our dead boys, posed, you bastard) 15.04.16/XNUMX/XNUMX, where the dill gnawed like spiders in a jar - they themselves will soon rest! Puffy and fat as a hippopotamus, Saakashvili spattered poisonous saliva - everyone from Parasha, starting with the prosecutors with the shaven-headed bandits from the "Tornado" ending "all for Ridna Ukraine and the pearl by the sea Odessa and Ilyichevsk will tear up" !? So the "circus" is still ahead: stock up on pop food and sit further away from the stage. otherwise, God forbid, they will pour over their g ...?
  42. Lelek
    Lelek April 17 2016 19: 08
    0
    (While the West is distracted by the US presidential election and the migration crisis, Ukraine is turning into a steam boiler in the very center of Europe - a hotbed of tension the size of Texas and a population of 45 million people. And pressure is building up there - with every new scandal, with every editorial comparing Poroshenko with his overthrown predecessor, with every disappointed and resigned reformer.)

    Yes, they did it, they did it. And the fault in this "creation" is not only on overseas conductors, home-grown "derzhimordas" and "evil rabbits", but also (to a greater extent) on those 20-25 million people who succumbed to the propaganda about the European luxury "freebie" intended for them - the Ukrainians by the Lord God Himself, and which they want to take away from them these damned MSKAL and led by Putin. As the people are, such are the rulers who have been placed at their head. (cry.)
  43. soroKING
    soroKING April 17 2016 20: 11
    0
    Quote: ver_
    ... never .. "the climate there is different, there are avalanches one after another and after .."

    December 32 bully
  44. Thirteenth
    Thirteenth April 17 2016 20: 11
    +1
    Quote: Black
    Love was passionate but short-lived




    The relationship between the United States and Poroshenko can be described very simply - raped and abandoned))))
  45. Belarus
    Belarus April 17 2016 20: 30
    +1
    The West must recognize this danger, stop all this circus, portraying Poroshenko as a knight of democracy, and force him to put into effect real and tangible reforms.


    The West will not do any of this. And what is the real reason for the West to stop this whole booth, it’s not at their side. Those countries that are adjacent to Usrains are just a sanitary cordon, a sump or a filter if you want from such Ukrainian orcs.
    You just imagine if even during the whole mess and poverty, the civil war that is now going to begin to carry out any reforms.And who will give the money for reform? Americans or anal Europeans ?? They will give in return a pederast parade and other abominations, but Russia will never go anywhere and anyway it will have to be agreed upon under the conditions of Russia.
  46. Bramb
    Bramb April 18 2016 06: 38
    0
    And how it all began!
    "The most democratic president in the entire history of Ukraine", "People's Choice", "Ukraine finally has a bright future", etc.
    And now it suddenly turns out that there is no choice, there is no democracy, there is no bright future. And there is only a Western puppet protégé who did not live up to their hopes.
    But the Russians spoke about this two years ago ...
  47. antifa
    antifa April 18 2016 12: 55
    0
    Every nation deserves its ruler. We went to Maidan to earn money, did not bother about Maidan sponsors. The stinginess and dullness of the mustache. Donbass sorry - ukrovs ... ki disfigured ....