Mass media: at the WTO meeting, the claims of Ukraine to the Russian Federation were supported by the USA, the EU and Turkey

The EU, the United States and several other countries at a meeting of the Council for Trade in Goods of the WTO said that Russia is violating the norms of the organization, banning the transit of Ukrainian goods through its territory, reports RIA News post your source.

“At this stage, the parties are only expressing their concerns, therefore, there is no talk of Ukraine’s official lawsuit against Russia yet,” the source explained.

The agency recalls that since January 1, Moscow imposed a grocery embargo on Ukraine, as well as restrictions on the transit of Ukrainian goods. Now "freight from Ukraine to Kazakhstan through Russia can only be carried out from the territory of Belarus and subject to the availability of the GLONASS system."

Kiev’s concern about the restrictions imposed by Moscow was also shared by Canada, Japan, Switzerland, Turkey and Australia.

According to the interlocutor, the Ukrainian representative at the meeting stated that “Since 1 January 2016, due to the restrictive measures imposed by Russia, the export of its goods to Kazakhstan decreased by 49%, and their value increased by 30%, since they now have to cross Belarus, in addition, the export of Ukrainian goods to Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. ”

The representative of Turkey, in turn, noted that "the ban on imports of Turkish products, which Russia has introduced in the 20 categories since the beginning of the year, is in direct violation of WTO rules."

In response, the Russian side stated that “it is extremely serious about its obligations under the WTO,” including in relations with Ukraine and Turkey.

Comments

[Svyatogor]

By imposing sanctions against Russia without a UN decision, our "partners" themselves violated all possible norms of international law. So let them rest with their claims.

[SRC P-15]

The EU, the United States and several other countries at a meeting of the WTO Council on Trade in Goods said that Russia violates the rules of the organization by banning the transit of Ukrainian goods through its territory

Oh really? But why didn’t you see us point-blank when we tried to agree on this before Ukraine signed the association with the EU?

[vladimirZ]

The EU, the United States and several other countries at a meeting of the WTO Council for Trade in Goods stated that Russia violates the rules of the organization ...

The WTO, with the conditions in which we entered there, is harmful for Russia, it kills Russian producers, since the cost of production of any Russian goods due to adverse climatic conditions, low labor productivity compared to Western manufacturers, large transport and energy costs, is obviously higher.
Who then gave the command to enter the WTO, what were they thinking and hoping for?
In fact, this is the destruction of most of the Russian producers in agriculture and industry.
Yes, as long as Western sanctions and ours are in effect, our manufacturers have some chance of survival, and then WHAT?

[33 Watcher]

Drive us out of the WTO, well, please ..! Otherwise, our tweeter nanotolevich, do not calm down ...
We will be very grateful to you.

[Yuyuka]

Drive us out of the WTO, well, please ..! Otherwise, our tweeter nanotolevich, do not calm down ...
We will be very grateful to you.

and also introduce sanctions for the supply of palm oil and beef meat! we have piled up our poultry meat, and we will fill up the rest!

[Muvka]

Quote: Yuyuka

Drive us out of the WTO, well, please ..! Otherwise, our tweeter nanotolevich, do not calm down ...
We will be very grateful to you.

and also introduce sanctions for the supply of palm oil and beef meat! we have piled up our poultry meat, and we will fill up the rest!

That's about beef, you need to wait) So far, not enough. Here we are provided with pork and chicken.

[Amurets]

Quote: Muvka

That's about beef, you need to wait) So far, not enough. Here we are provided with pork and chicken.

On the contrary, development will go faster. The faster the Russian Federation is expelled from the WTO, the better.

[Yuyuka]

On the contrary, development will go faster. The faster the Russian Federation is expelled from the WTO, the better.

determined ... did not have time to answer so it is necessary to limit as much as possible what we lack! point to produce if you can buy?

[Tatyana]

It should be noted that Ukraine does not have a valid constitution (the new Constitution is in force, and they live in Ukraine as if by repealing the old constitution), so Ukraine today is a SPACE without a state, which is under the external control of the United States.
Poroshenko’s pro-American government in Ukraine has only the appearance of legitimacy.
This power is the result of the continuation of the 2014 military coup d'état after the US-led “Maidan” in Ukraine. It was the US agents Yatsenyuk and Turchynov, who usurped power in Ukraine after the "Maidan", and with forceful pressure on the Rada, first of all liquidated the Constitutional Court of Ukraine itself, so that it would not interfere with them from stamping illegitimate laws in the country.
Therefore, it is impossible to have anything to do with Poroshenko’s Ukraine in the field of INTERNATIONAL LAW. Present-day Ukraine is illegitimate in nothing. Neither in matters of compliance with the WTO, nor in matters of a peaceful settlement in the east of the country with the DPR and LPR, nor in the issue of recognition or non-recognition of the separation of Crimea from Ukraine, nor in the issues of debt financial obligations that the IMF and the United States provide loans to Ukraine in the person of Poroshenko.
Ukraine is now in a state of final state "half-life". Ukraine today is a real gangster "walk-field" with Ukrainian and foreign oligarchs at the head and their private armies.
Well, what kind of WTO can Ukraine talk with at all ?! If in Ukraine the poles of a power line explode to supply electricity to the Crimea, Russian gas is stolen when it is transported to the EU countries, Russian trucks are stolen on its territory with cargo for foreign states - all previously concluded international treaties are violated!
Hillary Clinton called Ukraine “NON-State” - the way it is! And present Ukraine as a state does not deserve any representation in the UN, IMF, PACE, WTO and other international structures.

[avia1991]

Quote: Yuyuka

point to produce if you can buy?

The question is that to buy "something you need" you must first "sell something unnecessary" - otherwise WHAT to buy the right for?
It is easier for oil and gas workers: they sell energy resources "unnecessary" to the country. What about the rest of the population? Sooner or later, it may be left without work, and the country - without money .. What, in fact, is the whole economic "strategy" of the last 25 years. And especially in this "helped", just, our entry into the WTO!

[Yuyuka]

I'm not talking about beef, I'm talking about beef after all, not everyone will impose sanctions, there are many other countries where the quality of products is higher than that of some of the WTO! and then, I don’t think that having any meat on the shelves is better than not having it! It would be better to increase the number of fish-quality products of their own! To do this, we need a smart policy through compensation for the costs of delivery, processing. Tell me, today the running line was - not sure, but in my opinion the US Federal Reserve reported that the investments of the Russian Federation in securities for 2015 increased by (!) $ 18 billion! Umm, Russia cannot be understood (c) if at the rate of 65-1 trillion 170 billion full-weight rubles! how long do we need to beef Russia with saturation in a few years? but! Well this is a few years ... but look, we’ll earn ... maybe ... the question is who?

[Vadim237]

In general, Russia has investments in US securities worth 92 billion dollars, at the rate of 65 rubles per dollar - 5 trillion 980 billion rubles - on these investments the state and those who are "near" the state will earn.

[Mikhail m]

According to the Bank of Russia, the accumulated external debt of the Russian Federation as of April 1, 2016 amounted to 516,1 billion US dollars.

Over the year, Russia increased its investment in US government securities by $ 14,7 billion, from $ 82,2 billion to $ 96,9 billion. This is evidenced by statistics from the United States Treasury.

And didn’t you try to live within your means?

[ver_]

..securities bring dollars - we buy gold on them - this is profitable ..

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Muvka

about beef it is necessary to wait) While not enough

Sanctions will continue - there will be enough of everything, in abundance! Not so bad Russia, so as not to provide itself with meat. Including beef!

[Hon]

If palm oil is banned, what will our dairy products be made of? It’s not they who impose palm oil on us, but we are actively buying it, it’s not their fault that it is our producers who drive the substitute. And by the way, if you make cheese and butter from milk, it is very likely that food prices will rise even more. Are you ready that tomorrow another 50% of the price will be added to the price tags? Our policy with respect to manufacturers does not allow us to receive high-quality and inexpensive products. In our country they used to milk, but not cows ...

[colonel manuch]

Dear, why does natural milk cost less than the cost of a liter of homemade mineral water at the receiving points of dairies. So, let it be better for real milk to rise in price than my grandchildren will be poisoned with palm oil and other "goodies".

[Yuyuka]

"+"! it is "cheap" then so "expensive" comes around! who will calculate the cost of treatment or late burial? especially palm oil of different categories ... who can guess which one we are taking? I think no ...

[gavrosh.ru]

“These Russians are unpredictable. They starved their peasants. They flooded fertile lands to make power plants. They polluted the crop areas with waste from the nuclear industry. They have a low population density, but at the same time they managed to spoil their country so much that now they are forced to buy grain. I thought I would die of old age. But when Russia, which fed the whole of Europe with bread, began to purchase grain, I realized that I would die of laughter. Churchill

[The Burglar]

Why wait? We need to blame ourselves from this WTO so quickly!
In general, there was nothing to do there.

[Nick]

Quote: Observer 33

kick us out of the WTO, please, please ..! Otherwise, our tweeter nanotolevich, do not calm down ...

The problem is that the WTO refers to the type of organizations whose entry costs the ruble and the exit is two. Question: Who will pay the costs?

[lelikas]

Quote: Observer 33

Twitry Nanotolevich

smiled.

[pie]

The only answer is Putin! Russia for 17 (seventeen !!!) years did not dare to join the WTO, but Putin, as usual, in a fit of anger, took and joined. And now he is getting out - something is wrong for him, something else ...

[Days]

Landing with the Censor?

Negotiations on accession to the WTO lasted:
Ukraine - 14 years.
Russia is 17 years old.
Kazakhstan is 19 years old.

Given that Russia is the 6th economy of the world (in 5th place were a couple of years after joining the WTO and before the sanctions and the fall in oil prices), it is very strange that they agreed so quickly.

[meriem1]

You can argue about performance. Working as a driver for 12 hours a day for a penny, you involuntarily think that productivity is 200% !!!

[ARES623]

Quote: meriem1

You can argue about performance. Working as a driver for 12 hours a day for a penny, you involuntarily think that productivity is 200% !!!

Your productivity is eaten up by the costs of about 30 dead, under 000 injured per year as a result of an accident. Total losses for the economy per year under 200 billion US dollars !!!!!
The concerns of the USA, Ukraine and other American henchmen should be sent to f ... well, you understand me. For example, there are no problems with China, Brazil, because they themselves are adequate. Yes, and these express only concern, they have to sue not with their hands, they themselves have a snout in the wool.

[tanit]

Or maybe you will return to reality? Nowadays. And so, your post is the essence of copy-paste from your same post at the time of Russia's entry into the WTO. Take a look at the calendar.
The WTO now is just not a bad way to play with your sharpie (the same sharpie deck). So far, the WTO charter has not been changed.
By the way, the Kitatai People's Republic (where there are no pensions for 80 percent of the population) is a WTO member. We have everyone who is not on the couch in front of de Billa's monitor, in China I. Di Oh you ... And only on the Internet are all D'Artagnans.
WHAT?

[Hon]

It’s strange that in Canada the climate is not milder than ours, and goods are cheaper. Maybe you should think about how to do it, how to make our products competitive, and not how to protect yourself from stronger manufacturers? Otherwise, our fate is always to be lagging behind

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Hon

It’s strange that in Canada the climate is not milder than ours, and goods are cheaper. Maybe you should think about how to do it, how to make our products competitive, and not how to protect yourself from stronger manufacturers? Otherwise, our fate is always to be lagging behind

The problem is that no one will compete in good faith with us. Sectors left without political protection will be destroyed with the assistance of the political machine, but on the other hand.
Again forced to turn to the recent (freshest) Ukrainian example.

[Hon]

Strange as that. First of all, it’s not clear where Ukraine is, if you cut off relations with the country that was tied to 80% of production, from which energy sources were bought, and also to arrange a coup d’etat and war in the country, it would be predictable that the economy and production would be in operation. But where does the WTO have to do with it, and how is this experience projected on us?
What does it mean not to compete in good faith? To support your producer, to reduce taxes for him (sometimes to 0) to subsidize and provide cheap loans is not fair competition? No it is OK. This is the direction in which we need to move, and our system is designed so that it would tear off three skins from the manufacturer, and then eat imported. And the support of its manufacturer is a ban on imports. The result of such support, poor quality products, is expensive. So we will instead of cheese from milk, eat cheese from palm trees, and also pay as for good

[Nick]

Quote: Hon

It’s strange that in Canada the climate is not milder than ours, and goods are cheaper. Maybe you should think about how to do it, how to make our products competitive, and not how to protect yourself from stronger manufacturers?

The climate in the populated part of Canada is still somewhat milder than in the populated part of Russia. In Canada, there is also a vast area favorable for agriculture, in which almost all agricultural production is made. products. In Russia, only about a quarter is agricultural. products are produced in the zone most favorable for agricultural. production. This fact significantly increases the cost of products in Russia.

Quote: Hon

Otherwise, our fate is always to be lagging behind

Our fate is to work more than others because of our geography.

[Saratoga833]

Russia has absolutely nothing to do in the WTO. This is not our office. Why they entered there is completely unclear to me. Maybe it’s good for the oligarchs, but to me this is the WTO on the big Turkish drum!

[avia1991]

Quote: vladimirZ

Who then gave the command to enter the WTO, what were they thinking and counting on?

And what - you are not in the know, or is it such a form of expression of sarcasm? ...
Your namesake rushed there from the very beginning of the presidency! And who counted ... apparently, the same Government, which the Garant, in an interview with Sergei Brilev, called "effective and professional"! Than put a bullet in the debate about the fact that "boyars, bastards, muddy the waters - and the king is not aware of!"

[vladimirZ]

- Who then gave the command to enter the WTO, what were they thinking and hoping for?

- And what - you do not know, or is it such a form of expression of sarcasm? ...

This is a form for people to think about where Russia's troubles come from.
To remember WHO is the root cause of the plight of our state and our economy? Indeed, some still do not understand this.
And most importantly, having considered these phenomena, then they acted correctly in the elections, in life, and did not shout: "Putin is the best," "there is no alternative," "Putin needs to be cloned," etc.
It’s good that you focused on this. Maybe thinking people will increase.

[colonel manuch]

The question of joining the WTO was lobbied by our "metalists", Medvedev, Chubais and "other liberals." And he doesn’t know Russia!

[1812]

vladimir z / Pokemon dragged Russia into the WTO, Medvedev during his presidency.
In general, we need to leave many organizations where we pay non-feeble contributions that would be useful in Russia.

[Voha_krim]

And how are US and EU sanctions consistent with WTO rules?
And the ban on the passage of Russian trucks as consistent with the rules of the WTO?
And what about other "arts" of the 404 territory in the WTO?
And why does Russia need this WTO?

[tanit]

Quote: Voha_krim

And why does Russia need this WTO?

Respond with sanctions for sanctions. Which is happening. In the framework of the same WTO. For the Chinese, such actions are understandable.
For users of sofas under a convenient flag, no.
Well, for the most part, smart (stupid, but we want to shoot, like in the PRC ... Poor, but poor, turn on the brain, as you call yourself, well, turn on your brain - the total number of execution sentences in the PRC you have = corruption shootings - well, well, what are there 68 raster articles - you don't care to talk about it, because "people hawala".) there are still more Chinese,

[rati]

The contract implies the presence of two contracting parties. if the other party is not interested in this, then there will be no agreement. The way it is. Look for someone who is interested in concluding a contract on your terms.

[79807420129]

You just need to send all these WTOs on an erotic journey, there’s no sense from them anyway, and at least stink your nose.

[meriem1]

Quote: Svyatogor

By imposing sanctions against Russia without a UN decision, our "partners" themselves violated all possible norms of international law. So let them rest with their claims.

So let them put their claims deeper into themselves !!!

[pie]

Well, and introduce sanctions against the EU, the States or Germany there, why cling to Ukraine? Well paskudniki same ....

[ultra]

Quote: pie

introduce sanctions against the EU, the States or Germany there, which you cling to Ukraine

Dude, you are behind the times! Already introduced sanctions that are reciprocal. In relation to Ukraine, these sanctions are also reciprocal!

[Corporal Valera]

Quote: pie

Well, and introduce sanctions against the EU, the States or Germany there, why cling to Ukraine? Well paskudniki same ....

"Give me something to eat, otherwise you have nothing to eat at your door!" - from the same opera. KrasavchiG!

[evil partisan]

Quote: pie

Well paskudniki same ....

Not not paskudniki. Paskudniki those, then in you, flatter, stuffed the rotten stuffing ...

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: pie

Well, and introduce sanctions against the EU, the States or Germany there, why cling to Ukraine? Well paskudniki same ....

What is a "customs union" I hope you know? This is when the countries in a given union do not take a tax, the so-called "customs clearance", for the transportation of goods from countries in the union, to themselves and back. Russia and the countries of the customs union do not have such an agreement with the EU. Those. all goods imported from the EU are subject to tax. This tax is a revenue part of the budget, and makes local goods more competitive, since the price for them is lower due to the tax.
Now we look at what Ukraine has done. She, being in the customs union with Russia and the CIS countries, has signed an association with the EU. Those. allowed duty-free import of goods from the EU.
Now let's see what happens. Any merchant who knows how to count money immediately understands that why pay a large tax for import through Russia, when you can introduce any goods from the EU to Ukraine, re-stick the tags there and calmly enter free of charge into Russia, and then to any CIS country. As a result, the budget is losing money; Russian goods are competitive.
And believe me, the amount of money there is huge. And you say paskudniki. Paskudnik is one who tries to sit on two chairs with a clumsy ass.

[your1970]

I will clarify, not a tax, a customs duty. Customs duty is NOT taken only on goods from the CIS, except Georgia. Tax (VAT) is paid for the import of any goods.

[Amurets]

Quote: pie

Well, and introduce sanctions against the EU, the States or Germany there, why cling to Ukraine? Well, paskudniki

Is it not clear that the goods of the countries you have listed, bypassing taxes, fees and duties through Ukraine, will go directly to the Russian Federation and you will pay for all the charms from your wallet. And they act against the EU, the USA, and a number of other Western European countries. After the association with the EU, Ukraine was invited to put GLONASS equipment and electronic seals on all trucks so that it could be tracked where these seals were removed. Ukraine refused and received what it received. And the customs rules on the borders with Ukraine are the same as on the borders with the EU.

[vodolaz]

They would have to go to the doctor, otherwise everyone is preoccupied. I wonder why no one showed concern when sanctions were introduced against us?

[siberalt]

It doesn’t work out in order to press and sanction WTO rules with observance. In addition, sanctions were imposed without rules. And if Ukraine is supported by Canada, Australia and Turkey, then let them buy from it that they are trying to carry through Russia.

[Suhov]

Quote: Svyatogor

By imposing sanctions against Russia without a UN decision, our "partners" themselves violated

UN solutions for suckers!
And the G7 (the great seven), everything is possible, if "this is all" the Hegemon wants.
By the way the great sevens divorced like dogs "I will not name which, so as not to provoke the wrath of wildlife defenders. "
Here again, the next seven drew:
USA and its sixes: Canada, Japan, Switzerland, Turkey and Australia.
And it doesn’t matter that there are only five sixes.
Spit on the laws of arithmetic, morality and logic.
The main thing in the above construction is fidelity to the hegemon.
Output.
Yes, they went with their claims to / for "I will not specify where",
so as not to cause righteous anger and sanctions of the site administration
for the use of "non-normative vocabulary".
Sincerely.

[Hon]

And why do we need a UN decision to introduce sanctions from one country against another? Now, if global sanctions are introduced as with respect to the DPRK, then a UN decision is needed.

[vmo]

All claims let shove Poroshenko and Obama in .... you know where!

[aleks700]

By imposing sanctions against Russia without a UN decision, our "partners" themselves violated all possible norms of international law. So let them rest with their claims.

And note, our representatives did not say a word about the sanctions that violate the rules of law and the WTO. Why? C-day?

[mr.grin19z]

let them go to Kazakhstan through America

[bovig]

Quote: Svyatogor

By imposing sanctions against Russia without a UN decision, our "partners" themselves violated all possible norms of international law. So let them rest with their claims.

Personally, I completely agree with you, but, unfortunately, the WTO rules do not take into account our wishes ... In the WTO there is case law and there is no presumption of innocence. If you are accused of something, then you must prove that you are innocent!) Will they believe you? This is a separate question ... A "pack" has formed, there is a "leader" and they will persecute in full. It was on these conditions that our liberal government, headed by the United Russia Party, sought to join the WTO and, finally, did. For what they fought, they ran into it ... And the fact that Ukraine froze the payment of Russia's debt for an indefinite period to the WTO rules has nothing to do with the rules of international law that they violated ...

[Alex20042004]

Dogs bark - the caravan is coming.
Urkaina is silent about the delivery of goods from China to China. (or their locomotive on the siding in Kazakhstan? )

[Andrey Petrov47]

Send all nah ...

[_umka_]

A good reason to send the WTO away.

[Stinger]

The WTO should have been sent to a known address immediately after the introduction of illegal sanctions against us. Or declare a moratorium on the implementation of WTO rules before lifting these sanctions. There was nothing to hide his head in the sand. And now, in fact, we are not fulfilling them and at the same time we have to spit.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Stinger

The WTO should have been sent to a known address immediately after the introduction of illegal sanctions against us.

Yes, I agree. But legally, exit from the WTO is impossible. This is a trade agreement without a statute of limitations and without a cancellation mechanism - that is, if you terminate it, you are sued and you make all lost profits before the second coming. Or Armageddon.
But sanctions may well be declared force majeure, for example.
In general, Delyagin once made a curious suggestion on this subject: if you prove that all this liberal shobla (Gref, Medvedkov, etc.) stuffed the Russian Federation into the WTO, proceeding from corruption interests, then, according to the same international law, corruption motivation makes this contract legally null and void. This, of course, is interesting, but (IMHO) is fraught)

[Petrof]

Quote: Pinky F.

But legally, exit from the WTO is impossible.

anything is possible - if you want

Article XV of the WTO Constitution states:

Any member may withdraw from this Agreement. Such withdrawal shall apply both to this Agreement and to the Multilateral Trade Agreements and shall enter into force six months after the date of receipt by the WTO Director General of a written notice of withdrawal.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Petrof

anything is possible - if you want

Article XV of the WTO Constitution states:

formally, yes. As I say, this is just a trade contract that can be unilaterally terminated at any time. And then - lawsuits and judicial routine. I don’t take image costs - I don’t care about them. But "partners" will come out of their skin to flush our reputation and negotiability down the toilet.

[Petrof]

Quote: Pinky F.

But "partners" will come out of their skin to flush our reputation and negotiability down the toilet.

in general, it was necessary to go out - right after the announcement of sanctions to us, because this is a direct violation of WTO rules
it’s not clear why - we did not sue for this
we’re all striving to please the West, Ukraine and all in a row - and in return only spitting and mischief
it's time to change the line of behavior


As you bow down before her, gentlemen,
You do not get recognition from Europe:
In her eyes, you will always
They are not servants of enlightenment, but servants.

May 1867
Fedor Tyutchev.

written as if today

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Petrof

in general, it was necessary to go out - right after the announcement of sanctions to us, because this is a direct violation of WTO rules
it’s not clear why - we did not sue for this

correctly. Sanctions are an instrument of unfair competition. But if the Russian Federation starts the exit procedure, a precedent will be created - not one of the 155 members has even stuttered even once. Russia has not achieved a single benefit from joining the WTO. The Communists, by the way, 2 years ago, wanted to introduce an RFP on withdrawal. I do not sympathize with the Communist Party, but IMHO was the right decision, even though it was called EdRosy emotional. Although, if you read the economic certificate of losses to the project, these are not emotions far.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Petrof

May 1867
Fedor Tyutchev.

written as if today

of course. But Tyutchev, beloved and often quoted on VO, was very languid in St. Petersburg and dreamed of quickly dumping abroad, which he loved very much. After the murder of Pushkin, he asked a friend what they had done with Dantes. Sent abroad - there was an answer. "I'll go and kill Zhukovsky," he replied great russian poet.

[Weyland]

Quote: Pinky F.

Tyutchev was very languid in St. Petersburg and dreamed of quickly dumping abroad, which he loved very much. After the murder of Pushkin, he asked a friend what they had done with Dantes. Sent abroad - there was an answer. "I will go and kill Zhukovsky," the great Russian poet replied.

Wow! In which city had this dialogue with a friend and whence Tyutchev dreamed of being deported? But I, the dark one, was convinced that Tyutchev was a diplomat from 1821 to 1844, who was almost completely in Europe!
Proof, pliz!

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Weyland

Proof, pliz!

xs. Prince Gagarin, perhaps. I heard this apocrypha while still being a student.
I came from Germany - I was in a hurry to fucking leave St. Petersburg - "I'll go and kill .."
What is wrong?

[Yuyuka]

Yes, I agree. But legally, exit from the WTO is impossible. This is a trade agreement without a statute of limitations and without a cancellation mechanism - that is, if you terminate it, you are sued and you make all lost profits before the second coming.

why go out? you have to nod, agree, shrug your shoulders, say - "ah-yay, these damned bureaucrats are to blame! we'll figure it out, only now there is no time ... and so we all ... as if ... but it would be necessary ... although this is unlikely , but it's worth trying, you would advise us how, write to the President's office, he will decide everything! only he is busy ... because of the sanctions, there is a lot of work, there is little to eat as soon as you are free ... so do not despair, we will you!"

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Pinky F.

legally impossible to exit the WTO

There you go! Exit from any contract is possible! It would be a desire and political will! And we need a way out of the WTO - a direct vital necessity!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Stinger

The WTO should have been sent to a known address immediately after the introduction of illegal sanctions against us. Or declare a moratorium on the implementation of WTO rules before lifting these sanctions. There was nothing to hide his head in the sand.

I would also introduce a deferral of interest and the repayment of Western loans for all categories of Russian borrowers. Until the end of the crisis. Sanctions means sanctions.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: _umka_

A good reason to send the WTO away.

Do not send. The Council of Europe will raise a howl, and a human rights court. They also complain to the UN. Poor Churkin, I do not envy him.

[Petrof]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Poor Churkin, I do not envy him.

I think he is not poor
normal work - not the worst and not the least paid by the way
and Churkin is far from the gentleman "no", but he is not a Kozarev, of course, although it pleases

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Petrof

and Churkin is far from the gentleman "no", but he is not a Kozarev, of course, although it pleases

in fact, he is just a UN representative, not a minister. Rank it did not come out until "no" or "yes". He has a quite utilitarian position. As with Zakharova, if we talk about the public figures of our Foreign Ministry.

[Petrof]

Quote: Pinky F.

He has a completely utilitarian position

if you do not agree with the line of the authorities, a letter of resignation can always be put on the table
and the foreign minister has his bosses

[aszzz888]

The EU, the United States and several other countries at a meeting of the WTO Council on Trade in Goods said that Russia violates the rules of the organization by banning the transit of Ukrainian goods through its territory

Kiev’s concern about the restrictions imposed by Moscow was also shared by Canada, Japan, Switzerland, Turkey and Australia.

The second action, the same faces. "Forty souls howling in shifts, glowing white!" V.S. Vysotsky.

[vfqjh]

Do not understand ? What's this ? One gate play ? Fuck them, not transit !!!

[Pvi1206]

The Ukrainian authorities consider Russia an enemy and at the same time require trade preferences with our country.
Medical diagnosis - schizophrenia: a split personality ...
Amazing Not at all, for politics without this is no longer politics ...

[Altona]

They themselves killed this organization, now they are indignant. These squeals are inappropriate and irrelevant.

[Pinkie F.]

that “the ban on the import of Turkish products, which Russia has introduced in 20 categories since the beginning of the year, is a direct violation of WTO rules”

that is, a sovereign state does not have the right to be a regulator of its own foreign economic activity? Funny amid the sanctions. And given the ease with which it is now customary to manipulate the rules of all these international organizations - it’s doubly funny.

[Mordvin 3]

Kicks, I would like to know what kind of hoopoe from our government 12let was breaking through accession to the WTO. Without exception, all clubs are created only for everyone who wants to join them to pay dues and play according to the rules of the club organizers. Well, a couple of nishtyakov for those who want to enter the club in the form of an allegedly free beer.

[Vitwin]

Quote: Mordvin 3

what a hoax from our government 12 years was breaking through the entry into the WTO.

I know which one - but if I say, citizens on the site will be upset))

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: Mordvin 3

what a hoax from our government 12 years was breaking through the entry into the WTO

18 years.
By name: Gref, Medvedkov, Shuvalov, Nabiullina and company.

[kartalovkolya]

Something, but accepting contracts and agreements that are not beneficial for our country is one of the favorite actions of the "liberal company"! But there is a limit to everything, and isn't it time to ask these "dealers" about this "yoke" that the liberals so successfully put on the neck of Russia! ???

[demo]

It seems to me that it is worth insisting on the transportation of ALL Ukrainian goods through the territory of New Russia.
Let them carry out customs clearance and pay for transit.
And low to the legs bow to the Donetsk team.
And who will be against it.
After all, according to Kiev, the Donetsk region is Ukraine.

So let's see.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: demo

It seems to me that it is worth insisting on the transportation of ALL Ukrainian goods through the territory of New Russia.

Nonsense. Who should insist?

Quote: demo

Let them carry out customs clearance and pay for transit.

are they even remotely familiar with the TIR procedure?

[avvg]

As we expected - "Mass media: at the WTO meeting, Ukraine's claims against Russia were supported by the organizers of the coup in KIEV-2014".

[pie]

Listen, how many pamorokas can people hammer in? Yes, a coup d'etat took place in Ukraine, a thief and a scoundrel was removed from office, and if Russia had not saved him, it is quite possible that he would have been shot like Ceausescu at the toilet. Has anyone grieved for Ceausescu for so long? After 9 days they forgot. How else to part with a crook in power of the Russian language that does not understand? We have the same situation and all these antics like answering questions only confirms this - you have to survive, three million questions on the topic “Why is it so much stolen from us” and Why do we live so badly? ”So why are you angry with Ukraine? ? Now it is a completely democratic state, a popularly elected president, unlike us a democratically replaced prime minister, our President greets them by the hand (when in the mood)

[skifd]

Quote: pie

Now it is a completely democratic state,

He himself understood what he said ??
And if you really think so - then what the hell are you doing here? Forward, for permanent residence, it would be nice to send you all the liberoids there.

[ultra]

Quote: pie

Yes, in Ukraine there was a coup, a thief and a villain were removed from his post

Yeah, and replaced with "crystal honest". Are you adequate or just a liberal?

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: ultra

Are you adequate or just a liberalist?

no. This is the opinion of a person in the queue for lace underpants.

[evil partisan]

Quote: ultra

liberalist?

Aha . The letter pi .

[Yuyuka]

So why are you bored with Ukraine? Now it is a completely democratic state, a popularly elected president, unlike our democratically replaced prime minister

it’s necessary so already on the morning of Saturday! and two more days off ahead! although ... maybe just a spring exacerbation?

[black]

I'd like to take you, my friend, for one place and take to Donetsk, to the cemetery, to the Alley of Angels, where the children are buried. And there you are a muzzle in the graves and on the kidneys with a butt, so that the little head thinks that fingers print. Eh, dreams are dreams. Have a feature come true.

[Weyland]

Quote: pie

Has anyone grieved for Ceausescu for so long? After 9 days they forgot.

And in 10-15 years remembered. And now very much, many of the Romanians are grieving for it, TASTING THE BEAUTIES OF EUROINTEGRATION!

[Yarik76]

The WTO did not give Russia anything other than the restrictions "well, to hell with him" By the way, this organization coquettishly kept silent about the sanctions imposed against us!

[sl22277]

And impose sanctions against Russia is not a violation of WTO rules! The WTO is a dead organization ... Does anyone else play by its rules, but everyone understands that the world begins to live according to other rules dictated by countries with military force and political influence. To use our country only as a market for foreign goods and as a source of cheap raw materials is a rather clear indication of the unacceptability of the WTO for ourselves. This Secondary Raw Material is not needed. (I would probably be very surprised if the Turks and Khokhlov did not support this issue).

[black]

At this stage, the parties express their concern. Concerned, damn it.

[Pitot]

Or can declare a zone of geyropa and pentosia a zone of zombies? And bring them down on the basis of fear and misunderstanding that they are not zombies?

[Petrof]

In response, the Russian side stated that “it is extremely serious about its obligations under the WTO,” including In relations with Ukraine and Turkey .///

and then what happened or was that all?
why not directly declare that these are our counter-sanctions, that is, only an answer to hostile actions

therefore, there is no talk of a formal lawsuit from Ukraine to Russia ///

some kind of surrealism
Ukraine declared the Russian Federation the aggressor country that attacked them, the EU and the USA staged Russophobic hysteria, pull troops together and all at the same time demand all sorts of benefits and threaten the court for not providing them


but I think they will not be expelled from the WTO under any circumstances (they will benefit from our participation) - but they will come up with a fine
you need to leave from there and immediately

[EvgNik]

Kiev’s concern about the restrictions imposed by Moscow was also shared by Canada, Japan, Switzerland, Turkey and Australia.

[Russia]

At this stage, the parties are only expressing their concerns

Concerned ?!
So we are doing everything right!
The main thing is not to be praised!
And they have only one "concern" - the presence of Russia.

[Warm Padded Jacket]

they are strange these preoccupied, everything is possible against the Russian Federation, but nothing can be done against the preoccupied))), trade with each other. Americans can order trampolines in Ukraine))

[zoknyay82]

... "In response, the Russian side stated that" it takes its obligations under the WTO very seriously, "including in relations with Ukraine and Turkey." ...
Translated from a diplomatic language into Russian, you should probably understand this: would you not go ... :-)

[Amurets]

Quote: zoknyay82

Translated from a diplomatic language into Russian, you should probably understand this: would you not go ... :-)

You understood correctly. The continuation sounds like this: if you hadn’t gone to where Obama did not drive his lackeys, we hope that this will happen soon.

[Polite Moose]

The representative of Turkey, in turn, noted that “the ban on the import of Turkish products, which Russia has introduced in 20 categories since the beginning of the year, is a direct violation of WTO rules.

And for some reason no one remembered anti-Russian sanctions. They (these sanctions) are not a violation of WTO rules.
They took care there, poor ones. Well, okay, I understand Turkey, Switzerland. And Japan, Canada, Australia, which side suffered from the reduction in transit of goods? They gathered in a common choir to mourn.
Well, Russia, as a disciplined member of the WTO, cannot but respond to the concerns of ... (partners).
I suggest that the Turks, in order to alleviate their concern, increase the number of categories of goods prohibited from importing to 40. From Ukrainians to demand without fail to equip all wagons, in addition to GLONASS, with a portrait of Putin and a St. George ribbon. The rest is easy to send.
In general, this WTO is some kind of muddy organization. And, judging by the color of the corner of the building’s facade in the photograph attached to the article, citizens do not really favor it. Perhaps, only the first and last letters really matter on the sign.

[cedar]

Quote: Petrof

Quote: Pinky F.

But legally, exit from the WTO is impossible.

anything is possible - if you want

Article XV of the WTO Constitution states:

Any member may withdraw from this Agreement. Such withdrawal shall apply both to this Agreement and to the Multilateral Trade Agreements and shall enter into force six months after the date of receipt by the WTO Director General of a written notice of withdrawal.

As they say, paying a ruble for entry will have to pay five for the exit, but do we have them? Till Russia is not sovereign exit the WTO is not possible!

[Saratoga833]

Quote: cedar

from the WTO is not possible!

If you entered a cow’s mold, what, you have no way to get them out of it?

[NKVD]

At the will of the rulers of our state. If you want, you can go with the WTO and PACE. Then you can find the money to raise the economy and normal indexation of pensions. Otherwise, you cannot find how to fill up the budget and add the excise tax.

[Kibl]

Needless to say, some emotions! This is what a thick-skinned language all these Europeans and other "countries" need to have to lick the smoked ass of the USA so powerfully and for a long time !!!

[Putnik_16]

And why do we need the WTO if we are no longer subject to sanctions?

[K-50]

The EU, the United States and several other countries at a meeting of the WTO Council on Trade in Goods said that Russia violates the rules of the organization by banning the transit of Ukrainian goods through its territory

Strange, but weren't the zhovto-blakitnye the first to ban the transit of trucks with Russian license plates on their territory? Aren't our trucks slowed down by all sorts of radicals on the borders of the "Square"?
Anyway, the WTO treaty is not profitable for us, is it worth it to stick to?

[rotmistr60]

The most interesting thing is that the West and its sixes begin to remember about the rules of the WTO when it suits them, or concerns Russia. As a result, our country, as usual, remains extreme. But smart people and bright heads warned that it was not necessary to get into this organization. So no. Against the background of declarative advantages, too many real minuses were revealed.

At this stage, the parties are only expressing their concerns

Well, these "parties" are constantly expressing concern, if all the more this is somehow related to Russia.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: rotmistr60

or concerns Russia.

oh well, not only Russia. China filed a lawsuit in the WTO against the EU, while Japan, the States and the EU filed a lawsuit against China. This is a routine.

[MIK.VIK.]

, and what did they want? They are trying to put us on all fours, and we: "what else do you please, sir?" Will not work . And let the sh.a.v.k.i continue yapping.

[sieras]

when they proposed a "way around Russia." Ukrainian forums were teeming with comments "rashke kapets", "there will be no money for the transit of our goods." so let the WTO take and find these "brilliant" logisticians and they will show you how to carry goods bypassing the "rashka"

[Victor-M]

The EU, the US and several other countries at a meeting of the WTO Council for Trade in Goods stated that Russia violates the rules of the organization by banning the transit of Ukrainian goods through its territory,

Counter-sanctions, oh these Russian counter-sanctions, what can you do, war.

The agency recalls that from January 1, Moscow imposed a food embargo on Ukraine, as well as restrictions on the transit of Ukrainian goods. Now “freight transport from Ukraine to Kazakhstan through Russia can be carried out only from the territory of Belarus and subject to the availability of the GLONASS system”

Now "Ukrainian" goods produced in the EU will have to eat maydanut banderlog for IMF loans. Here it is European happiness banderlogs in Europe or Europe in them , then they should be happy, and they cry .

[ltc22A]

[quote] Russia violates the rules of the organization by banning the transit of Ukrainian goods through its territory [/ quotr]
WHERE was the WTO (and others like them) when Ukrainian thugs blocked heavy-duty vehicles with Russian license plates, following with cargo to Europe and from Europe, on the territory of Ukraine? After all, the Russian Federation introduced restrictions in response to this blocking. Ukrainian. the government is now "complaining", like it's scumbags, we didn't block it. Pathetic hypocrites and beggars. Why: "evil Russia took away the last kopeck from the Central European orphan girl."
It's disgusting !!!

And the USA, EU advise to buy glasses with normal lenses, and not the same as now (with one-sided transparency). I will not say anything about Turkey - impudent hangers-on (the small letter "t" is not a typo). Stroke Ukraine - there will be another impudent hanger.

[Zomanus]

That is, sanctions against us is the norm.
But when the aggressor country imposes retaliatory sanctions, this is unacceptable.
Interesting logic ...
What about the entry into the WTO. This is a game on their field according to their rules.
And if we manage to bend them, then it means we learned to play a little.

[Weyland]

Quote: Zomanus

sanctions against us is the norm. But when the aggressor country imposes retaliatory sanctions, this is unacceptable. An interesting logic ...

It is called "hottentot morale". The classic formulation:
"It's good when I steal cows from a neighbor and rape his wives.
Evil - when a neighbor steals my cows and rapes my wives. "
Or the same in Lenin's definition:
"What serves the cause of communism is moral!"

[cergey51046]

It was not necessary to join the WTO. You can’t put a handkerchief on each mouth, but you can knock out a tooth.

[wandlitz]

Scientists say "A negative result is also a result."
Russia's accession to the WTO is a negative result.
And according to this, it is necessary to correct the situation - to leave this association, which does not bring any benefit to our state.

[NordUral]

After the imposition of sanctions against Russia by the West, Russia had a real opportunity to legally exit the WTO imposed on us by the liberals, which is necessary to do as quickly as possible. But there is no sense in paying attention to yapping of Ukrainians and Ottomans, they got what they deserved, and by no means a complete measure.

[epsilon571]

After the imposition of sanctions against Russia by the West, Russia got a real opportunity to legally exit the WTO imposed on us by the liberals, which is what needs to be done as soon as possible

And still do not cash in at the expense of retirees, helping the banks burnt out through the fault of an incompetent economy from the accumulated funds:

"President Vladimir Putin approved a plan to support VEB from the presidential reserve, formed by freezing pension savings of citizens. According to the head of the Ministry of Finance, Putin has already instructed to allocate 150 billion rubles.

Finance Minister Anton Siluanov confirmed that 150 billion rubles. to support Vnesheconombank will be allocated from the so-called presidential reserve, which was formed by freezing the pension savings of citizens, RIA Novosti reports.

***
“The top 10 richest deputies of the State Duma include eight United Russia, one communist and one spravorass, follows from the declarations of income and property of parliamentarians for 2015. But none of them earned as much as the richest senator - 1 billion rubles. elected officials and members of the Federation Council own expensive cars and real estate abroad: in the "decaying" Europe and the United States, which they do not like.

State Duma Speaker Sergei Naryshkin earned 9 million rubles, which is 2 million more than in 2014. He owns a plot (2500 sq. M.), A house (126,7 sq. M.), An apartment (224,1 sq. M.), Plus two parking spaces. The speaker of the lower house does not have cars, but his wife has a Ford Focus. Also, the spouse Naryshkina owns a land plot for cottage construction, two apartments (with common shared property and personal) and a parking place. The second half of the State Duma speaker earned 2,9 million rubles.
Among the leaders of the factions, Gennady Zyuganov boasts the highest earnings - 6,5 million rubles. (4,5 million a year ago).
From real estate, the head of the Communist Party declared an apartment in common ownership with his wife and cottage. The wife of the leader of the Communist Party earned 183,8 thousand rubles.
In second place is the leader of the EP faction Vladimir Vasiliev, who received 5,7 million rubles. The head of the faction of the Duma majority has one property with an area of ​​2140 square meters. His wife owns three plots and two houses, and she earned 270,6 thousand rubles.

The richest senator at the end of 2015 was the representative of the Kamchatka Territory Valery Ponomarev. He declared an income of more than 1 billion rubles. Last year, Ponomarev was the leader only in terms of family income. "

Details on RBC and RIA Novosti.

[koshmarik]

Gentlemen, dissatisfied, cancel your sanctions against Russia, and then we will probably cancel our. And there’s nothing to shake the air and build from itself innocence.

[qwert111]

Quote: pie

Listen, how many pamorokas can people hammer in? Yes, a coup d'etat took place in Ukraine, a thief and a scoundrel was removed from office, and if Russia had not saved him, it is quite possible that he would have been shot like Ceausescu at the toilet. Has anyone grieved for Ceausescu for so long? After 9 days they forgot. How else to part with a crook in power of the Russian language that does not understand? We have the same situation and all these antics like answering questions only confirms this - you have to survive, three million questions on the topic “Why is it so much stolen from us” and Why do we live so badly? ”So why are you angry with Ukraine? ? Now it is a completely democratic state, a popularly elected president, unlike us a democratically replaced prime minister, our President greets them by the hand (when in the mood)

You are drinking? Was it your roof that blew away from alcohol? If alcohol, then it will pass, although it does not justify! But if you use toxic liberal and fascist g / avno (Now it is a completely democratic state, you mean Ukraine), then the diagnosis can be very deplorable. Typically, this disease is not treated, it is knocked out with nonsense !!!

[rus-5819]

Quote: Observer 33

Drive us out of the WTO, well, please ..! Otherwise, our tweeter nanotolevich, do not calm down ...
We will be very grateful to you.

Tvitriy Nanotolevich ... amused! And the name is not accidentally Ayfonchik?

[dchegrinec]

All these our relations, both economic, political and others, with this gang-watering can resemble walking on a tightrope without insurance. This one-sided anarchic "world order" is pretty boring to everyone. Somehow, it is necessary to disorient Western ties, split, quarrel and so on and create your own. otherwise, we will see that someone calls the music all the time and drowns us.

[Kudrevkn]

Until Russia is given quotas for the export of manure and garbage to Dill and Turchina (after all, 2017 has been declared the Year of Ecology in our country), there is nothing to talk to them about! And we will give them our shit with a "cap", let them not doubt it! Yes, and in general, after Chernobyl, they somehow failed to deal with "environmentally friendly ....", they did not want to strengthen radiation control, what if I get sick with radiation sickness, the Yaytsenyukha virus? What if he pulls an unwashed carrot? What a horror!

[valent45]

USA, EU and Turkey - Concerned countries! Especially the EU! There are many concerned!

[Vadim237]

Nothing - expats will take care of their concerns.

[dvg1959]

A clique of frantic adventurers is conducting a targeted anti-Russian campaign.
All this link in one chain - a program planned and financed by the United States and supported by Western countries, aimed at discrediting Russia in the eyes of the world community.
We need to strictly adhere to our line and not make any concessions.

[avg-mgn]

What problems do our "colleagues" from Ukraine have? You do not take gas from Russia, a train through China to China was launched, scho moan yak virgin?

[tolmachiev51]

How can a state which does not have a claim? After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine was not registered with the UN as an independent state. Russia is the assignee of the USSR, which included Ukraine, i.e. dill is part of Russia. Joining the WTO promised us an abundance of cheap goods, but besides the headache, nothing and why the heck are such organizations to us ???

[Pula]

A "byПzdnet "...

[Pula]

EU, US and several other countries at a meeting of the WTO Council on Trade in Goods

How many officials in these entities, so many desires to put Russia on the threshold, and then ask for pieces of paper. And who will just give them money?

[KRIG55]

Who would doubt that. All friends and partners are assembled. We observe the true face (if IT can be called that).

[bsk_mna54]

What the oligarchs fought for, we ran into it, the people. It's time to drive them barefoot to the zapadentsev

[onix757]

And the most interesting thing is that if someday the real patriots of the country come to power in Russia and decide to leave the WTO, then they will encounter a certain difficulty in the form of the absence of an exit mechanism as such.

[4ekist]

Quote: Svyatogor

By imposing sanctions against Russia without a UN decision, our "partners" themselves violated all possible norms of international law. So let them rest with their claims.

And who is easy to live now. All hardships and hardships must be endured.

[NACC]

As it does, it will respond.

[Hariton laptev]

Quote: vladimirZ

The WTO, with the conditions in which we entered there, is harmful for Russia, it kills Russian producers, since the cost of production of any Russian goods due to adverse climatic conditions, low labor productivity compared to Western manufacturers, large transport and energy costs, is obviously higher

So the WTO was created to kill the remnants of production in countries with weaker economies, or rather less technologically advanced industries, and it’s understandable to open the way for its corporations.

[antipendos]

Quote: Yuyuka

and also introduce sanctions for the supply of palm oil and beef meat! we have piled up our poultry meat, and we will fill up the rest!

What’s the problem, you don’t need to rake cheap imported goods from stores ... fundamentally buy goods from a domestic producer, but the state controls price controls. I personally do it, and even if it’s a little more expensive, and even that isn’t a fact, the Khokhloma washer was cheaper before the ban, but I bought either Russian or local and now I don’t even need to look at it, it’s cheaper meat! In general, I am glad that the left parashka has become smaller, can finally disappear soon. If we can do everything ourselves and moreover there are all resources for this, I don’t see the point in this organization.

[Verkhomnapule]

the ghouls began to whine, the same gang of Russophobes continues to succumb to hatred of Great Russia!

[colonel manuch]

The conclusion is simple: - it’s time for us to get out of the WTO, and we’ll immediately find out who “us” and “them” will start crying. Otherwise, you are used to setting conditions for Russia, and I think the proposal to freeze payments on Western loans is not so stupid.

[AdekvatNICK]

I really want to come to this meeting and rush in there with a bat to the song of the Alisa group “Sky of the Slavs” and fuck all our partners.

[tap tap]

They poured in so much money to join this organization, but in the end they only had one more lever of pressure on us.

[TOZ-34]

Why are they all so concerned? They don’t care about sanctions against Russia, but ours against Ukraine do. There will be no sanctions against Russia - there will be no sanctions against our enemies (Turkey, Canada, and further on the list).

[Karakuin]

Constant plaintive grunts. Moreover, take Ukraine back and rebuild it in a new way, so that you can ruin the Maidan again. Some kind of childish cunning, but in appearance they seem to be like adults. And our sanctions should remain, and you should lift yours, because that’s what we need. Or maybe it would be polite to send?

[Lily]

Why the hell does Russia care about the WTO?! So that they can kick there too?!