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Again about the Su-24 and the American destroyer

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Again about the Su-24 and the American destroyer.


US Secretary of State John Kerry said loudly that the crew of the destroyer "Donald Cook" had the right to shoot down the Russian Su-24, circling the American warship. Literally: “We condemn this behavior. This is reckless. In accordance with the rules of engagement, Russian aircraft could be shot down.».

Disputes flared up around one of my past posts on Facebook regarding this particular incident, during which several opponents argued that the Su-24 crew acted recklessly and could well pay with their lives for their behavior. Opinion about what exactly “Donald Cook” is in this stories the provocative party, the opponents of the dispute were not taken into account and were not considered. Although it is known that the American destroyer, having on board a powerful complex of URO (guided missile weapons), was just 70 kilometers from the Russian naval base, and thousands of kilometers from its native shores. At the same time, I did not even see signs of the desire of my opponents to consider the question: “What is he doing here, in close proximity to our borders?”. The controversy has been reduced to the fact that in neutral waters a US warship can sail anywhere, and do what it pleases.

In this regard, I will try to open the eyes of some short-sighted citizens of the Russian Federation who openly wanted the death of our reconnaissance aircraft flying around the warship of the main likely enemy.

So.

First.
In 1982, the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea appeared. In 1994, the Convention entered into force and was ratified by 159 states and the European Union. The Convention on the Law of the Sea stipulates that “the high seas are reserved for peaceful purposes,” and this is inherently the case of the exclusive economic zone of 200 miles.

Second.
The same Convention defines the meaning of the notion “peaceful passage”, according to which the transit navigation of foreign ships through the inland seas of coastal states is carried out. In Russia, this requirement is fully met by such seas as the White and Okhotsk (I do not remember the first when, and the second was recognized by the world community as the inland sea of ​​Russia in 2014). Any state does not have the right to restrict peaceful passage through such seas, however, Pakistan, India, Brazil and China have imposed such restrictions on warships and ships of foreign countries - a priori (it’s hard not to disagree) that any warship of a foreign state - obviously not a peaceful object. Italy, Egypt and Malaysia exercised the right of innocent passage to depend on the nature of the cargo (for example, dangerous cargo) or the type of vessel (for example, warship).

The third.
A passage is not peaceful if it violates "peace, good order or the security of a coastal state." International law includes such acts, including any acts aimed at damaging the defense and security of a coastal state. Let me remember this.

Fourth.
In 2007, US Senator De Mint said in an interview that "the provisions of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea limit the ability of the US to conduct intelligence and other military activities." Let me remember that too.

The fifth.
China and Argentina openly opposed any military activity of the US naval forces in their exclusive economic zones. Countries such as India, China, Malaysia, Brazil, Bangladesh, Uruguay, Pakistan, the Maldives and several others have adopted shipping rules that exclude foreign military activity in their exclusive economic zone. What most acutely affected the US State Department, who believed that all oceans and seas are submissive to American warships. But the Americans have no choice but to shrug their hands - the armed forces of these states have legitimate reasons to impede the movement of US warships in their exclusive economic zones. And what’s most interesting, Pindostans, whatever fleet they didn’t possess, they don’t go there.

The sixth.
The size of the Baltic Sea is such that at any point a foreign vessel will be located either in the territorial waters of one of the nine coastal states (Russia, Poland, Germany, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Sweden and Denmark), or in the exclusive economic zone that legally balanced. Those. after any US warship (a non-coastal state for the Baltic Sea) passes the Öresund Strait, it automatically falls under the jurisdiction of one of the nine designated states. At the same time, I would like to note that unlike the 159 coastal states and the entire NATO European Union, which ratified the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, the United States of America did NOT JOIN the Convention, and simply ignore its international provisions, being the largest maritime power in the world!

Seventh.
John Kerry, the official "talking head" of the White House of the United States, commenting on the incident with "Donald Cook", dropped the phrase "In accordance with the rules of engagement ...". It turns out that the White House OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZES that the “Donald Cook” performs the MILITARY PROBLEM in the Baltic Sea. This also needs to be remembered.

Eighth.
The destroyer "Donald Cook" belongs to the destroyers of the type "Orly Burke" - one of the most powerful currently fighting ships in the world. This ship is armed with the Aegis military complex, which includes a powerful radar interfaced with a combat information and control system that controls all the variety of weapons: 96 vertical launch cells (in different configurations can be charged with three main types of missiles - anti-aircraft “Standard”, the extreme modifications of which are capable of shooting down ballistic missiles, with Tomahawk cruise missiles, which are able to strike at depths up to 2500 km, including nuclear warheads, and anti-submarine ASROS capable of un Well enemy submarine at a range of up to 30 km), eight anti-ship missiles, anti-aircraft missiles 24 melee, torpedoes and artillery. In general - a very "tough nut"!

It should be particularly noted that some of the destroyers of this type are armed with a missile defense system (antimissile defense), which includes Standard-SM-3 anti-aircraft missiles, which are able to shoot down our nuclear ballistic missiles in the first seconds after launch, and to derail, thus, a preventive, retaliatory or retaliatory nuclear strike on the United States. These destroyers are a very, very dangerous enemy. Therefore, their neutralization is one of the main tasks of the Russian Navy at any time and in any place. In the Spanish city of Roth, not far from Gibraltar, four such destroyers are based on a permanent basis, which are the maritime component of the Euro-PRO. Donald Cook is one of them.



Ninth.
Destroyers of missile defense type "Orly Burke" with "Aegis" and "Standards" on board are the objects of special attention (and particular headache) of the Russian naval intelligence. Each of these destroyers has been placed under special control, and the Main Naval Headquarters of Russia hourly monitors their movements, analyzing and predicting the nature of their combat activities.

Almost all types of naval reconnaissance are involved in this business: AGENTURNAYA (personnel of naval bases, crew members of ships, staff officers and even just locals whose windows face the ship’s berths or exits from the bases), COSMIC (radio and radio engineering , species), TECHNICAL (over-the-coast coastal radars, coastal observation posts, radar companies and battalions, reconnaissance stations for radio emissions from enemy spacecraft), Aviation (radar, radio and radio engineering, species, visual, reconnaissance of radioactivity and chemical contamination) and SHIP (all types of radio emissions, acoustic, visual and even special). Imagine at least for a moment how many people, forces and means are involved in military service every day in order to constantly monitor the actions of the ENEMY who become insolent from their impunity.

So: one of the main signs of the upcoming nuclear strike on Russia by the United States, our General Staff considers the situation when US missile defense destroyers start lining up in a “defensive vehicle” on the lines of a possible interception of our ballistic missiles - in the Baltic, Black Sea, Norwegian Sea, North Sea, in the Barents Sea near the Kola Peninsula and the Bering Sea near Kamchatka. As soon as even one destroyer of the missile defense system is deployed in one of the specified areas, the Main Naval Headquarters plans and takes measures to neutralize the source of the headache.

Why, you ask.
I answer: in order to keep the “missile corridors” open at any moment. A special example: before October 7 2015 from the Caspian Sea, our rocket ships inflicted a well-known group rocket attack on ISIL positions in Syria, the Black Sea Fleet spent a lot of forces and means to squeeze American ships out of the Black Sea that could intercept Russian cruise missiles. As soon as the American destroyer ABM left the Black Sea (I think it was Trakstan), the Caspians immediately conducted a mass baptism of the Caliber. As a result, the US Navy missed a grandiose doomsday. And not only missed, but also could not interfere in the process, terrible for them.

Tenth.
Kaliningrad and Baltiysk are two military sites whose significance for Russia is difficult to overestimate. Hence, in the current extremely tense political conditions of sanctions and other conceptual political and economic contradictions, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are able to project force into almost half of Europe. The projection tool is the 152-I missile brigade of the Western Military District, which is equipped with the Iskander missile system brigade. The main task of the brigade is the destruction of ground-based objects of the US missile defense system, which the United States is actively deploying in Europe. In a possible, and quite likely, confrontation between the two nuclear powers, the 152-I missile defense brigade of the ZVO is the force that can neutralize missile defense by restoring the status quo of “nuclear parity”. And thereby suppress the advantages of one nuclear power over another, eliminating the tempting temptation to once and for all solve the “Russian question” with one powerful nuclear strike, without fear of getting a sizzling “otvetku”.

In this context, the ABM destroyer deployed in the Baltic Sea near Kaliningrad is a duplicate element in the overall US missile defense system, and should replace the ground-based Euro-ABM elements if they are destroyed by the Iskanders of Russia. THEREFORE, its presence in the Baltic Sea is nothing other than the MINING "MARINE position area", with which he will be able to intercept Russian ballistic missiles, US-bound.

Thus, the circle is closed. John Kerry does not hide the fact that the destroyer "Donald Cook" PERFORM THE MILITARY TASK. Just during the next round of tensions between the two nuclear powers.

*****

AND NOW, THE MAIN QUESTION: do Russian VKSs have the right to approach the warship of the main enemy, whose presence in this area contradicts the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea and creates a real threat to the security of the Russian state?
And the ANSWER: according to John Kerry, the missile defense destroyer "Donald Cook" is at war. He came to our Baltic not with peaceful goals. He came to fight with us, having corrected all international norms. And if so, then John Kerry should know that the war has its own laws. Either we drown the destroyer, or he lowers his filthy flag. There is no third. And an empty chatter here is no longer relevant.
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  1. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN April 19 2016 10: 09
    +105
    The "exceptional" thought they were immortal and untouchable, but there is a nation that proves the opposite ...
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall April 19 2016 10: 12
      +16
      It’s a big brawl. Everything will be bad.
      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych April 19 2016 10: 19
        +16
        In a fight, hair is stinging. The question is who is better trained.
        1. tiredwithall
          tiredwithall April 19 2016 10: 25
          +26
          Training is important, armament is a must. It should also be noted that global wars are wars of attrition. Japan lost the 2nd World War, as its production volume was 10% of the United States. We have the only chance - nuclear weapons, which helps deter aggressors. You can’t bring to a fight.
          1. Alex_Rarog
            Alex_Rarog April 19 2016 10: 32
            +42
            Let’s write it all down. Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers were able and we can!
            1. cniza
              cniza April 19 2016 10: 40
              +10
              Quote: RUSIVAN
              The "exceptional" thought they were immortal and untouchable, but there is a nation that proves the opposite ...



              And they don’t want to believe it at all, that’s bad, but we don’t really want to prove it, we just do it and let them gasp and groan later.
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ April 19 2016 10: 58
                +56
                I do not understand what the bazaar station is about.
                Donald Pook - could just take drying for accompaniment and not bathe.
                And the bazaar is simply due to the fact that this action by the Russian Air Force infringes upon the pride of the "empire of the good of freedom and democracy."
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS April 19 2016 12: 02
                  +38
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  Donald Pook - could just take drying for accompaniment and not bathe.

                  He could not. It, like off the coast of Crimea, was led by our coastal complexes, which at any moment could "extinguish" it, as it was in the Russian Sea. The destroyer with Aegis near our coast is not capable of intercepting not only an ICBM, but such a target like the SU-24, because before the launch of our missiles, on the path of which such a destroyer sits, it will be simply "extinguished" by our electronic warfare systems. This was demonstrated off the coast of Crimea.
                  And since the Standards are capable of intercepting our ICBMs only on the initial flight path of the missile (the acceleration stage), it is logical that the destroyers with Aegis and Standards should be near our shores. electronics, which makes it impossible for these destroyers to intercept our missiles.
                  1. Corsair
                    Corsair April 19 2016 14: 25
                    +12
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    A destroyer with Aegis is not capable of intercepting not only ICBMs near our shores, but also such a target as the SU-24, because before the launch of our missiles, on the path of which such a destroyer is hanging around, it will be simply "extinguished" by our electronic warfare systems.

                    belay Something you too optimistic all appreciated, what for then they soared with the Aegis and the missile defense in general, if we can easily extinguish electronic warfare systems at a distance of 70-100 km? And what will EW give - if axes fly 2500 km, and missile defense missiles can certainly be protected from EW - by taking measures to counter what I think the Americans are trying to do by studying our reaction, scanning frequencies and other events.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS April 19 2016 16: 58
                      +17
                      Quote: Corsair
                      Something you too optimistic all appreciated, what for then they soared with the Aegis and the missile defense in general, if we can easily extinguish electronic warfare systems at a distance of 70-100 km?

                      This is exactly what happened off the coast of Crimea. I suspect that at a distance of 150 km the same Monolith or another coastal complex of electronic warfare can "extinguish" Arlie Burke. This is not optimism, but an accomplished fact.
                      Quote: Corsair
                      And what will EW give - if axes fly 2500 km,

                      You apparently did not carefully read my posts. Destroyers of the Arleigh Burke type are one of the components of the American missile defense system. That is why they have Standard anti-missiles that are capable of shooting down our ICBMs, but only at the acceleration stage. Therefore, these destroyers have to approach our shores, otherwise Aegis will be useless in the event of our retaliatory strike. And when approaching our shores, mattresses face the problem of our coastal electronic warfare systems, which "extinguish" all the electronics of these ships.
                      And as for the "axes" ... I will say this, in the event of an exchange of nuclear strikes, the United States will suffer incomparably greater damage than Russia. Why? Yes, because our state is much larger, which means the population density is much lower. This time. Secondly, this is our layered missile defense and air defense system, which cannot be easily suppressed (and whether it will be possible to ask a big question at all). And thirdly ... most of the US industry is located near ports, unlike our elements of industrial infrastructure.
                      And finally ... the creation of a strong echeloned defensive coastal zone with both Ball and Bastion missile systems and electronic warfare systems is quite logical. fight radio, any ship of the adversary, whether it be Tekanderog, Arly Berg or even an aircraft carrier, turns into a blind easily destroyed target even for coastal zone RTOs, with Caliber on board.
                      1. Corsair
                        Corsair April 19 2016 18: 21
                        +8
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        And about the "axes" ... I will say this, in the event of an exchange of nuclear strikes, the United States will suffer incomparably greater damage than Russia. Why? Yes, because our state is much larger in size, which means the population density is much lower

                        hi As for the missile defense, I agree, as to counteracting several thousand of the Kyrgyz Republic, not counting the ICBMs, this is still a very difficult task, and the main industrial sites and cities of our homeland will be destroyed, as well as dams and nuclear power plants (we add flooding of large areas and radiation).
                        Perhaps Siberia, Altai will survive, perhaps the Ural regions, Yakutia.
                        In my opinion, the main task is to just bring to the dumb-headed US generals and politicians that they will not remain without an answer and that they will be total losses, that no one will be able to live in the US for a very long time.
                        Now, if our scientists had figured out how to completely extinguish the electronics of the enemy with EW, it would be a breakthrough of the century.
                      2. KaPToC
                        KaPToC April 20 2016 09: 44
                        0
                        The area of ​​the European part of Russia is three million square kilometers, three thousand square kilometers per American strategic warhead, this is clearly not enough to destroy life.
                      3. Corsair
                        Corsair April 20 2016 17: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        The area of ​​the European part of Russia is three million square kilometers, three thousand square kilometers per American strategic warhead, this is clearly not enough to destroy life.

                        belay Nobody spoke about complete destruction, just besides the direct defeat from warhead missiles, there are also post-factors - radiation - wind rose, flooding, fires, infection of the highest category of environmental objects from objects of high level, climate change, precipitation. Therefore, the damage will be enormous, further hunger and cold will follow, epidemics are possible, Siberia, the Urals and Altai will probably not suffer much, but the main sown area is the middle belt and the South of Russia.
                    2. Gogia
                      Gogia April 20 2016 15: 14
                      0
                      Do you exaggerate the power of a volley with a barb? Even in Soviet times there were not several thousand goals for ALCM and GLCM. They were greatly reduced by contracts, and they are vulnerable enough for electronic warfare systems - they fly on GPS and telecast through satellites. in this case, the detonation of one NLL in the stratosphere disables their entire satellite constellation.
                    3. Corsair
                      Corsair April 20 2016 18: 03
                      0
                      Quote: Gogia
                      Do you exaggerate the power of a volley with a barb? Even in Soviet times there were not several thousand goals for ALCM and GLCM.

                      recourse So no one spoke for so many carriers with nuclear warheads, but no one will find out with a massive salvo, and the defeat of the infrastructure of the main settlements and industry is a delayed destruction. If you turn off light and water in any big city, diseases and their victims will appear within a week.
                  2. Orionvit
                    Orionvit April 20 2016 19: 40
                    0
                    The so-called "US elite", the entire "American" people consider blacks, and do not associate themselves with the country, the country is a means for them. They may well substitute, but they themselves think to sit out, for example, in New Zealand. They have everything ready there.
                2. Gogia
                  Gogia April 20 2016 15: 11
                  0
                  Here you need to look at the list of cities with a population of more than 5 million people in the States and Russia :)))
              2. yehat
                yehat April 20 2016 09: 33
                0
                no matter what the Aegis is, but it is and therefore it is worth taking a steam bath
              3. Gogia
                Gogia April 20 2016 15: 09
                0
                So yes, but who told you that in EW conditions the Axes will show themselves well (they fly on GPS) and the Missiles will fly on the reflected signal and are controlled by another radar - carcass control line and introduce interference + false targets - the accuracy has decreased and that’s all .. Probabilities become from 0,5 - 0,1
            2. Gogia
              Gogia April 20 2016 15: 06
              -1
              Well, it was necessary to extinguish Aegis as soon as they entered the zone. And that’s all - no talk. I went around with khibins or something else so that we could go to repair the radar.
          2. Throw
            Throw April 19 2016 12: 27
            -22%
            The note is called "the hamsters from the muzzle book are indignant!" laughing

            And at the same time they are promoted with demagogy.

            Kerry tore someone's template, saying that the warship is performing a combat mission?
            But our ships and drying are also not sprat chasing in the same international waters, it is not strange .. bully

            I will not advocate for coconuts, but in essence and in the text:

            -What paragraph \ clauses of the Convention violated amers from Cook? Oh yes, they did not join her, but still?
            -The Baltic is not an internal sea of ​​the Russian Federation, therefore demagoguery about "peaceful passages" is inappropriate
            -about "a bunch of Black Sea Fleet forces to squeeze American ships out of the Black Sea" - in more detail in this place, with specifics
            - can a Berk-class destroyer from the Black Sea intercept a Caliber launched from the Caspian Sea across Syria?
            -what for?
            Why didn’t they intercept from the Mediterranean?
            well, etc.

            Yes, and who is the author going to drown and shoot down in international waters?
            D, B? fool

            In general, the fleets are doing normal work, everyone does not sleep and is not given to others, as in the good old days ..

            And on plankton on facebook farts are torn ... laughing
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 April 19 2016 13: 05
              +42
              Quote: Lance
              Kerry tore someone's template, saying that the warship is performing a combat mission?
              But our drying is also not sprat chased in the same international waters, it is not strange ..

              ... St. George ... hi ... in fact and the question ... our SU-24 was just a sprat in the form of DDG-72 "Donald Cook" and drove across the Baltic ... ...
              Quote: Lance
              -What paragraph \ clauses of the Convention violated amers from Cook? Oh yes, they did not join her, but still?
              -The Baltic is not an internal sea of ​​the Russian Federation, therefore demagoguery about "peaceful passages" is inappropriate

              ... internal, not internal ... but, to Baltiysk 70 km. or 45 mor. miles ... that is, you have a redneck walking under the fence with a baseball bat, respectively, you get the "Saiga" out of the closet and demonstratively in front of the redneck at the window check if it has become dusty for an hour, maybe you need to clean it ... the redneck should see what happened demonstrated ... laughing
              Quote: Lance
              - can a Berk-class destroyer from the Black Sea intercept a Caliber launched from the Caspian Sea across Syria?
              -what for?
              Why didn’t they intercept from the Mediterranean?
              well, etc.

              ... Burke cannot intercept 3M14 ... only if it will fly over it or 50-70 km. removal is no further ... SM-3 even of the extreme modification blok II / And here they have useless the lower limit in height of 50 km. ... "Calibers" do not fly there, 15-100 m. Marching altitude ... hi
              Quote: Lance
              In general, the fleets are doing normal work, everyone is awake and they are not letting others, as in the good old days ..

              ... I agree ... we were only voiced for the SU-24 ... but, in fact, we have all worked out ... such "Dear Guests" are met accordingly:
              - The RTR men led him like a Bride under the arms of a white 100% ...
              - The "Rubezh" division was definitely in a combat position on duty ...
              - a pair of MRK 12411 lay in a drift or on the smallest on the beam of Cape Taran, here you can even not go to your grandmother ...
              - RTVeshniki led in the "duty", not much highlighting ...
              ... and judging by the relaxed mattress covers on the deck, they themselves understood, if only they had to raise the duty cycle of the AN / SPY-1 radar ... how all of the above-listed our means would have taken it for "combat" ... and jokes are over ... hi
              1. Throw
                Throw April 19 2016 13: 18
                -1
                Well, what am I talking about?

                A redneck with a bat looked at us behind the fence, but in the meantime we cheated on the car, everything is fine.

                And why yell angrily from the sofa?

                And to write pathetic nonsense about conventions, passageways, crowding out and interceptions of some kind of wild ...
                1. Throw
                  Throw April 19 2016 15: 00
                  -4
                  PS. Monk, the questions were rhetorical, you do not need to answer them laughing
                2. Inok10
                  Inok10 April 19 2016 15: 30
                  +16
                  Quote: Lance
                  PS. Monk, the questions were rhetorical, you do not need to answer them laughing

                  ... this is not for you Brother, but a continuation of your reasoning ... we already perfectly understand the essence of the matter ... it's just that our people have forgotten the "Charter of the Garrison and Guard Service" Part II, Chapter 5, Art. 1.5, p. 190 and p. 191
                  190. The sentry is obliged to use weapons without warning in the event of a clear attack on him or an object protected by him, as well as in the case of an immediate threat of attack (physical impact), when delaying the use of weapons poses an immediate danger to human life or may entail other serious effects. In this case, the use of weapons should not harm the protected object and third parties.

                  191. All persons approaching the post or the forbidden border, except for the head of the guard, the assistant to the head of the guard, their guard and those accompanied by them, the sentry stops with the cry “Stop, back” or “Stop, go around to the right (to the left)”.

                  If the person approaching the post or the forbidden border does not comply with this requirement, the sentry warns the offender with the cry “Stop, I will shoot” and immediately calls the guard or the guard. If the intruder continues to approach the post or the forbidden border, the sentry sends the cartridge to the chamber and produces a warning shot up. If the violator fails to comply with this requirement and attempts to get into the post (cross the forbidden border) or takes flight after such an attempt, the sentry uses weapons on him.
                  ... the sequence of actions is scheduled hi ... and why "it" sailed to the Gulf of Gdansk and it is so clear that the Baltic and Pshek flies would not feel lonely and buzz louder, although a fly swatter does not care ... laughing
                3. Throw
                  Throw April 19 2016 18: 15
                  -1
                  Only here there are fly swatters in the Baltic, and the shouts "Nachkar! Shoot!" - on Facebook laughing
            2. V.ic
              V.ic April 20 2016 15: 15
              +2
              Quote: Lance
              And why yell angrily from the sofa?
              And to write pathetic nonsense about conventions, passageways, crowding out and interceptions of some kind of wild ...

              So did Kerry blather something there first?
        2. kitamo
          kitamo April 19 2016 13: 56
          +6
          Quote: Lance
          Kerry tore someone's template, saying that the warship is performing a combat mission?


          okay * a combat mission * ... as far as I understand, Carey said that this ship was engaged in combat operations in our economic zone ...

          Literally: “We condemn this behavior. This is reckless. According to the rules warfare, Russian aircraft could be shot down "

          and this is something else ...
          1. I am human
            I am human April 21 2016 12: 00
            +1
            Mr. Lance is just a paid troll, so don't talk to him ... Not worthy
        3. otter.1
          otter.1 April 19 2016 14: 00
          +1
          Well, if you are so correct of yourself, model the situation in the Gulf of Mexico, or at least near Cuba. And then consider where and to whom these or other waters belong.
          1. asiat_61
            asiat_61 April 19 2016 23: 46
            -1
            But, after all, Cook was not in the Gulf of Mexico? Where is the Baltic? And where is M. the Bay? Besides, Cook; .. was fighting .. "How's that?
            1. V.ic
              V.ic April 20 2016 15: 20
              0
              Quote: asiat_61
              But, after all, Cook was not in the Gulf of Mexico? Where is the Baltic? And where is M. the Bay? Besides, Cook; .. was fighting .. "How's that?

              I would like to compare with your "bunch" the presence of "DC" in the Baltic, and not in the Gulf of Mexico.
        4. homedition
          homedition April 19 2016 15: 08
          +3
          And on plankton on facebook farts are torn ... laughing
          Probably J. Kerry also belong to them?
          1. Throw
            Throw April 19 2016 15: 14
            +6
            I carry Kerry to the hounds.
            Do not listen to him before dinner. And after too.
        5. Luga
          Luga April 19 2016 16: 32
          +1
          Quote: Lance
          The note is called "the hamsters from the muzzle book are indignant!"

          I saw the minus, put a plus wink I do not like it when they are minus for an opinion. I myself do not agree with everything said, but
          Quote: Lance
          In general, the fleets are doing normal work, everyone does not sleep and is not given to others, as in the good old days ..

          I was reconciled in everything else.
        6. I am human
          I am human April 21 2016 11: 52
          +1
          Dumber than this opus of Mr. Lance can only be Gutting Pointers
      2. Shurik555
        Shurik555 April 19 2016 12: 57
        +6
        it’s really not clear. well, it’s also flown by, what’s wrong with that, and if you’re afraid of nothing to go where you don’t need to.
        1. Throw
          Throw April 19 2016 14: 58
          +1
          kitamo
          Carey said that this ship was fighting in our economic zone ...

          Carrie didn't say that.

          Literally: “We condemn this behavior. This is reckless. In accordance with the rules of warfare, Russian aircraft could be shot down. "

          This translator wrote, and everyone rewrote.

          Kerry said:
          under the rules of engagement
          which can be interpreted very broadly, the dictionary is helpful, but terms like "combat / fighting missions" were not used in the interviews.

          http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/14/europe/russia-defends-donald-cook-overflight/
      3. Vasily Krylov
        Vasily Krylov April 19 2016 14: 58
        0
        I couldn’t. Today I read a review of the Swiss press, though a translation, then I quote "not noticeable for locators."
      4. Volgobalt
        Volgobalt April 20 2016 11: 13
        0
        Let them wipe their pride and flag at the same time! And about knocking down - it is necessary to have fortitude and courage. Well, what spirit they showed flying around this destroyer with our bomber in the Black Sea!
        1. yastr
          yastr April 20 2016 14: 04
          +1
          And why shouldn't he "accidentally" run into an old face?
          1. I am human
            I am human April 21 2016 12: 05
            0
            Quote: yastr
            And why shouldn't he "accidentally" run into an old face?

            But this is a good idea, there are many of them floating in the depths
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 19 2016 10: 56
    +18
    "In this regard, I will try to open the eyes of some short-sighted citizens of the Russian Federation, who openly wished the death of our reconnaissance aircraft that flew around the warship of the main potential enemy."
    Who are where they live? bully
    1. lelikas
      lelikas April 19 2016 12: 16
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      Who are where they live?

      There are really a lot of them, it is enough to go into unloved by many contacts and carefully read. Here, by the way, too.
      The article is good, the only thing is - "Standard", extreme modifications which are capable of - Superstitions are not appropriate here - any rocket flight is the last for her. I can advise not a bad book by Fenimore Cooper - "The Extreme of the Mohicans". laughing
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 April 19 2016 13: 01
        +1
        "lelicas"
        I, too, can advise you to read the article from the beginning and find out a quote from it.
        "In this regard, I will try to open the eyes of some short-sighted citizens of the Russian Federation, who openly wished the death of our reconnaissance aircraft that flew around the warship of the main potential enemy." hi
        1. lelikas
          lelikas April 19 2016 14: 39
          0
          Quote: Observer2014
          "lelicas"
          I, too, can advise you to read the article from the beginning and find out a quote from it.
          "In this regard, I will try to open the eyes of some short-sighted citizens of the Russian Federation, who openly wished the death of our reconnaissance aircraft that flew around the warship of the main potential enemy."

          You are extremely not observant, for such a nickname. hi
      2. V.ic
        V.ic April 20 2016 15: 30
        +2
        Quote: lelikas
        I can advise not a bad book by Fenimore Cooper - "The Extreme of the Mohicans".

        "Pardon", translated into Russian, sounded like: "" The last of the Mohicans. "I read it as a child, also" DEFA "- the film adaptation was not very bad.
        1. lelikas
          lelikas April 20 2016 16: 31
          +1
          Quote: V.ic
          "Pardon", translated into Russian, sounded like: "" The last of the Mohicans. "I read it as a child, also" DEFA "- the film adaptation was not very bad.

          It was ironic about using the word "extreme" out of place. hi
    2. kolobok63
      kolobok63 April 19 2016 12: 19
      0
      I am also surprised, do we really have any in our country? Bulk and others like him, the matter is clear! Besides ukro.smi did not meet such comments ... hi
      1. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. April 19 2016 19: 03
        0
        And at least that woman who is outraged by songs about the Second World War performed by a teacher in a kindergarten.
    3. Corporal Valera
      Corporal Valera April 19 2016 14: 02
      +5
      Quote: Observer2014
      Who are where they live?

      In a muzzle or zhezheshezke. There are a lot of graffiti grazed. Nature Reserve, however
  3. Altona
    Altona April 19 2016 10: 58
    +10
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    Let’s write it all down. Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers were able and we can!

    ----------------------
    We can, just not in the current economic form. Because in "our boat" 1% of the population eats exorbitantly and is not going to stop.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 19 2016 11: 33
      +10
      Right! Therefore, in the elections, we must think hard about whom to vote for, and for everyone, we’ll have to tear our throats off the sofas. It's time to take up the mind.
      1. kvv157
        kvv157 April 19 2016 12: 24
        -2
        It's great here too! As they say: vote, do not vote - you still get .... everyone knows the continuation.
    2. Shurik555
      Shurik555 April 19 2016 13: 02
      +4
      because our country is turning into the same capitalist state as the western countries.
  4. Senior manager
    Senior manager April 19 2016 14: 01
    +10
    I would venture to run into minus. Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers knew what LABOR is, and war is a huge work. First of all. Those interested can ask the pilots from Syria. And now we have many effective managers, few workers.
  5. antipendos
    antipendos April 19 2016 21: 36
    0
    When our grandfathers could not have had such a threat, and now do not hesitate if the kneading begins the striped will use yao and in all likelihood the first out of silence
  6. Linkor200
    Linkor200 April 19 2016 23: 21
    -7
    Alex_Rarog - It hurts you, my friend. the army general is brave / or impudent /. In words, it seems, you are a racial patriot, and your avatar is SWASTIC-like. So, one Nazi characters are pretty, the other - in the form of an officer of the Wehrmacht, is dancing on the central television channel. Favorite Fuhrer of the Racean people - also available. But you are not afraid that the rest of the civilized world will have to PREVENTively apply nuclear weapons to you and the like to prevent the spread of the brown plague.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic April 20 2016 15: 41
      +3
      Quote: Linkor200
      like you.

      VAMP-like this and the 20s of the 20th century / "vamp" style /.
      Quote: Linkor200
      Favorite Fuhrer of the Racean people - also available.

      Come on, come on, from this moment in more detail, please! Where / Alex_Rarog / announced the appearance of the "Fuhrer" to the Russian people?
      Quote: Linkor200
      will have to PREVENTively apply nuclear weapons already for you and yourselves.

      Your application should be considered STATEMENT OF THE AVAILABILITY OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN ISRAEL?
      1. I am human
        I am human April 21 2016 12: 35
        0
        This is another troll from Israel ... And how threatening it is, like a Pug from the gateway
  7. droideck
    droideck April 21 2016 11: 18
    0
    We will prescribe something, only unlike great-grandfathers, we may not see great-grandchildren. And not only we - no one will see.
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  • mitya24
    mitya24 April 19 2016 12: 14
    +5
    Japan lost the 2nd World War because the USSR soaped the withers of the 3rd Reich.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 19 2016 13: 18
    0
    And here you are, moreover, your defense minister said the other day that we will not support Russia in military operations, we have our own interests in the west.
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  • NoiseLessNerd
    NoiseLessNerd April 19 2016 13: 01
    +1
    Not really, as far as I know - the United States in its entire history has fought only on foreign territory and mostly with the "evil Tyrants" whom it itself created. Another question is that our grandfathers fought and won the largest meat grinder in the history of mankind, but then there was Comrade Stalin who prepared the country for war, both materially (weapons, equipment, etc.) and spiritually (they prepared them in such a way that the guys about 15 -17 they themselves were eager to fight and ascribed to themselves a couple of years from above, is this possible now? I don't think so). Russia is still recovering after the 90s, besides, we have lost a lot of territories where factories and other things were located (Ukraine, for example). So now we are not in a position to go to war with the United States, I would say a bit tough.
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    2. mitya24
      mitya24 April 19 2016 15: 06
      +5
      So the USA is not the 3rd Reich. Far to these little boys, who only monkeys can scare on branches, to the Aryans.
    3. yehat
      yehat April 20 2016 14: 58
      0
      how funny the conclusion is: "lost Ukraine, where the rest was located" laughing
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch April 19 2016 16: 34
    0
    Quote: Vladimir
    In a fight, hair is stinging.

    Watching whose ...
  • subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 April 19 2016 10: 21
    +13
    Informative article.
    1. UNFAMILIAR
      UNFAMILIAR April 19 2016 22: 48
      0
      Quote: subbtin.725
      Informative article.

      To the author the deuce by geography, NETHERLANDS FROM THE NORTH SEA, MOVED TO THE BALTIC, AND TAKEN THE DATA FROM THE BALTIC! I read the comments ... everyone is silent recourse
      1. V.ic
        V.ic April 20 2016 15: 49
        0
        Quote: UNKNOWN
        NETHERLANDS FROM THE NORTH SEA TRANSFERRED TO THE BALTIC, AND TAKE THE DATA FROM THE BALTIC! I read the comments ... everyone is silent

        Excuse me, I ask sir, I agree the first time, but Kattegat, Øresund, Skagerrak put me in doubt in the question of whether the Baltic Sea is "open" or "closed", according to the boodyag about the flight of the Su-24 in front of the nose of the "fucking cook".
  • lukewarm
    lukewarm April 19 2016 10: 45
    +1
    As of now, it’s also not good. If only our elite did not merge.
    1. ametist415
      ametist415 April 19 2016 11: 17
      +3
      What the people are, so is the padish. If the top merges, then you are not to blame?
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K April 19 2016 12: 06
        -4
        Quote: ametist415
        What the people are, so is the padish.

        You probably wanted to say what the electoral commission is, such are the paddies. No matter how they vote in the field, these results will not be important. But the election commission is already showing rigged results.
  • Kent0001
    Kent0001 April 19 2016 11: 26
    +3
    There won't be a big brawl. Americans are not quite yet. They will provoke and hang out. But in the open they will not climb.
  • NordUral
    NordUral April 19 2016 11: 28
    +3
    You cannot run away from Fate, but you need to prepare for its decision.
  • sergeybulkin
    sergeybulkin April 19 2016 12: 04
    0
    It’s a big brawl. Everything will be bad.

    Not everyone will be bad laughing , but only to the few who survive wassat .
    Everything will become radioactive, that is, absolutely everything, water, air, earth, plants and animals on the whole planet and underground bunkers will not help anyone and no one. So this will be the end of man as a species, and civilization will disappear forever.
    Even ordinary Americans are now absolutely sure that nuclear weapons are simply a very powerful and very large bomb, even their warriors think the same.
    As someone said:
    I don’t know what they’ll fight in the third world,
    but I know for sure that in the fourth world they will fight with sticks and stones.
    laughing
    1. ametist415
      ametist415 April 19 2016 13: 19
      +4
      It turns out that the Russian command and pilots, as well as the American command and the commander of "Donald Cook" are much smarter than all those who shout that we could shoot down a plane or sink a ship. Most of the "comments" to this article like, Americans are suckers, crap from our plane, and we could drown it without consequences for Russia. Such people think that they are brave patriots of the Motherland, but in real life, to put it mildly, they are stupid, or rather stupid. So?
      1. Berber
        Berber April 19 2016 16: 00
        +3
        I don't like "uryapatriots". The main thing in this article is that the war is already underway. And the enemy must be taken seriously, not underestimated. All these exercises with "approaches" and "approaches" for a reason. The Americans have the Pentagon and they are far from stupid. What is happening, I would call the selection of options for further strategy. To put it simply - they are trying to test us.
  • diletant
    diletant April 20 2016 07: 54
    0
    Worst of all will be Poland and the Baltic countries - this is still the pre-field for both Russia and the United States.
  • Persistent
    Persistent April 20 2016 17: 08
    0
    Putin is trying to get closer to NATO. For this, the Russian bomber even approached 10 meters to their destroyer. But they are not so. laughing
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  • DMB_95
    DMB_95 April 19 2016 10: 16
    +4
    Quote: RUSIVAN
    The "exceptional" thought they were immortal and untouchable, but there is a nation that proves the opposite ...

    They may be "exceptional", but in Russia "God loves the Trinity", and Cook may not survive the third meeting with our aviation.
  • Vadim-Skeptic
    Vadim-Skeptic April 19 2016 10: 24
    -33%
    "- I have a right!
    - You have ...
    - I can...
    - You can't! "(C)
    This is about us. Nobody is going to bomb the destroyer - it is stupid to portray the attack ... Although, as part of a set of measures to counter the activities of the destroyer, it can be. But in general - a fig in your pocket.
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin April 19 2016 10: 44
      -14%
      Come on. They would shoot the plane, ours would flood the destroyer, and then apologize for the incident. Then they took it out of the water and studied what kind of wunderwaffe it was.
      In this case, this is more likely not a fig in your pocket, but a bullying by a small steep stranger who has entered the courtyard.
      1. Vadim-Skeptic
        Vadim-Skeptic April 19 2016 11: 00
        -9
        If you want to sink the destroyer so much, shoot a torpedo under the bottom of the ship. Old mines are an echo of war.
        1. kolobok63
          kolobok63 April 19 2016 12: 26
          +9
          I think this is the most unwise move. lol And with the most unpredictable consequences. You need to drive them everywhere! It is advisable not to cross the red line! But the fact that the mattresses need to be put in place is beyond doubt! Amen! hi
        2. Corsair
          Corsair April 19 2016 14: 32
          +1
          Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
          If you want to sink the destroyer so much, shoot a torpedo under the bottom of the ship. Old mines are an echo of war.

          They will calculate and manage to transfer the torpedo, and besides, there will be wounded witnesses - the whole EU will be saved, including ours according to explicit and unwritten maritime laws - heard SOS - save. That's about suddenly pop-up mines, and it would be nice if German or English - this is the topic.
    2. V.ic
      V.ic April 19 2016 10: 59
      +7
      Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
      destroyer - maybe. But in general - a fig in your pocket.

      Demonstrative crossing of the "donald's egg" course for our Su-24, even if you consider it unarmed "a fig in your pocket"? In vain ... It's just that the Russian Federation once again expressed to its sworn "partners": We are peaceful people, but ...
      1. ametist415
        ametist415 April 19 2016 11: 22
        -3
        First, say for yourself, if the war, you go to wet the Americans?
        1. V.ic
          V.ic April 19 2016 12: 14
          +9
          Quote: ametist415
          First, say for yourself, if the war, you go to wet the Americans?

          I took the military oath on August 18, 1979. They will call me to go. What about "wet" with GDP take an example? Do your brains not work in your youth?
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 19 2016 12: 10
        +1
        Quote: V.ic
        Demonstrative crossing of the "donald's egg" course for our Su-24, even if you consider it unarmed "a fig in your pocket"? In vain ... It's just that the Russian Federation once again expressed to its sworn "partners": We are peaceful people, but ...

        Yes, not quite so ... the destroyers of the Arlie Berg class are sharpened to a greater extent to intercept missiles, including ICBMs. But they can only intercept them with the Standard at the acceleration stage. Hence all these "tangos" off our coast. They are trying to find a way interception of our ICBMs. But then they are in for an unpleasant surprise in the form of coastal electronic warfare systems, which multiply to zero all these mattress futets. This was clearly shown 12 times by our SU-24 near the Crimea.
    3. DMB_95
      DMB_95 April 19 2016 11: 30
      0
      Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
      "- I have a right!
      - You have ...
      - I can...
      - You can't! "(C)
      This is about us. Nobody is going to bomb the destroyer - it is stupid to portray the attack ... Although, as part of a set of measures to counter the activities of the destroyer, it can be. But in general - a fig in your pocket.

      We can. No one could, and we did the impossible. And we can cripple a fig from a pocket.
    4. NordUral
      NordUral April 19 2016 11: 35
      +2
      As for the figs in your pocket, you're wrong. Well, just get used to the fact that these will stick out on our shores? Therefore, we must be nervous and check for lice.
    5. Jack-b
      Jack-b April 19 2016 11: 45
      +1
      Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
      Nobody is going to bomb a destroyer - it’s silly to portray an attack ...

      You in order not to bring rubbish to a question would study. To attack the destroyer do not need to fly over it. And at such a distance, he can generally be attacked by ground means.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 19 2016 14: 41
        +3
        Quote: Jack-B
        You in order not to bring rubbish to a question would study. To attack the destroyer do not need to fly over it. And at such a distance, he can generally be attacked by ground means.

        laughing What about demoralizing the enemy? - sailors are people too, and flying a fighter in the immediate vicinity is a serious blow to the hearing aid. Well, xs what kind of sonic range is there - from jet jets, maybe what equipment is suffering, it's not an aircraft carrier with TPs designed for this.
        1. Jack-b
          Jack-b April 19 2016 17: 56
          +2
          Quote: Corsair
          What about demoralizing the enemy?

          The demoralization of the enemy is as much as you want. But nobody simulated an attack. They just flew over the deck.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair April 19 2016 18: 11
            +1
            Quote: Jack-B
            Just flew over the deck.

            hi Let me clarify one point - you don’t need a deck, but in front of the nose, it’s just that fear is wide, another time the media will write that the wing antenna was also demolished so that the ship had no connection to the ground, but believe mobile cameras are unprofessional consumer goods, there are such tolerances for distortion - mom do not cry.
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  • vovanpain
    vovanpain April 19 2016 10: 26
    +31
    or he lowers his flag.

    Well said, exactly. negative And a place for him:
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought April 19 2016 10: 36
    +1
    Ours again wiped the nose of the mattresses, so they squeal like little pigs, but nothing, let them get used to the new military-political alignment in the world.
  • dmi.pris
    dmi.pris April 19 2016 10: 37
    +1
    Amerzian politicians came up with "exclusivity". Their military (in any case, I hope so) during their service has no time to think about their mission from above, because there is intensive work going on. And believe me, the military of any country is much more adequate people than their politicians There is, of course, the highest caste, the generals, they also have their own out-of-the-mind talkers. Just try to put yourself in the shoes of these sailors, they understand perfectly well - they will shoot from the Phalanx, they may not return home ..
    1. Error
      Error April 19 2016 10: 40
      +2
      I just wanted to say it, I just had to calm down! Yelling like a woman in the market! Nevertheless, they all the same understand what would happen if I tried, well, what a grandfather's garden!
  • Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 19 2016 10: 51
    +9
    The author has very competently set out. hi
    1. Foofighter
      Foofighter April 19 2016 14: 21
      +6
      In addition, the "innocent passage" is in certain areas through the territorial waters, and not through the economic zone.
      The "Black Sea bulk" of 1988 was associated with the "peaceful passage" of a warship without a reason for such a passage.

      According to the rules of conduct at sea adopted by the USSR and the USA:
      - hover over someone else's deck
      - pass near supersonic ships, and
      - simulate attacks passing low over the ship.
      The Su-24 did not do anything of this. An article like Kerry is a little hysterical ...

      The Su-24 could do what it did at least because NATO recently escorted the Tu-154 of the Russian Minister of Defense. They had the right only to fly up to the convoy (because the two Su-27 escorts did not have transponders turned on), inquire who else, next to the Tu-154 who was walking with the answering machine on, was flying and flying, but not escorting.

      On the part of NATO, this was just a violation. If it was not the Minister of Defense but the more senior officials who were flying, then the NATO members would definitely have the right to shoot down, and most likely they would have done that ...
  • V.ic
    V.ic April 19 2016 10: 53
    +1
    Quote: RUSIVAN
    The "exceptional" thought they were immortal and untouchable

    How are the "exceptional" different from the "chosen"?
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 April 19 2016 11: 17
      +1
      I would like very much that in the near future the phrase "Either we sink the destroyer, or he lowers his flag" will become the main one in such situations.
      And one more question. Why was a cookie in the Black Sea crushed by the Khibiny, but not in the Baltic?
      1. Foofighter
        Foofighter April 19 2016 14: 27
        +2
        So that the iPhone does not turn off on which all this was removed ... wink
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      3. faridg7
        faridg7 April 19 2016 16: 56
        +1
        Quote: Michael67

        And one more question. Why was a cookie in the Black Sea crushed by the Khibiny, but not in the Baltic?
        Well, in the Black Sea, he was covered unexpectedly (I don’t know, but I see "khibiny" has already become a household name for any electronic warfare complex), and then he ran into a special - on the deck, after all, they were free of watch, and the watchmen probably froze over the instruments - they took readings - Well, you have to understand what it was in the Black Sea. And they depicted a national Indian hut. Most likely, ours did not live up to the expectations of the US gliders, hence the annoyance in Kerry's words - why didn't you cover it - because the plane is visible, you can shoot it down.
    2. gispanec
      gispanec April 19 2016 12: 45
      +1
      Quote: V.ic
      How are the "exceptional" different from the "chosen"?

      the fact that the elect choose exceptional ......))) wassat
  • Blondy
    Blondy April 19 2016 11: 20
    +6
    The author of the pack is a plus.
    And where is Lavrov or Shoigu with exhaustive statements for the world community about who has the right to drown or not to drown? It is possible with a warning, not necessarily Chinese.
    And, in general, we have some kind of strange cooperation with the states: we cooperate where it is beneficial for them, sometimes at the expense of ourselves, but otherwise they shit everywhere they can and how they can
  • Jack-b
    Jack-b April 19 2016 11: 40
    0
    Quote: RUSIVAN
    The "exceptional" thought they were immortal and untouchable, but there is a nation that proves the opposite ...

    It is worth adding "regardless of their nation, religion and degree of remoteness."
  • vic58
    vic58 April 19 2016 12: 05
    +1
    remember Vysotsky :( although I already wrote ((()
    Don't grab someone else's waist
    Escaped from the hands of his girlfriends.
    Remember how to the shores of Australia,
    The late Cook was sailing.

    Like in a circle, sitting under azaleas,
    Eat from dawn to dawn
    Spruce in this sunny Australia
    Friend to friend, evil savages.

    But why did the Aborigines ate Cook?
    For which, it is unclear, science is silent.
    It seems to me a very simple thing -
    They wanted to eat and ate Cook.

    There is an option that their leader is Big Buka,
    Shouted that a very tasty cook on the ship Cook.
    The error came out, that's what science is silent about,
    They wanted to cook, and ate Cook.

    And there was no catch or trick at all.
    Entered without knocking, almost without sound,
    They put a bamboo club into action,
    The bale is right in the crown and there is no Cook.
    Let him swim ... As in a joke: the third time on the lid of the coffin! ... "Seven feet under the keel" hi
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 April 19 2016 12: 25
      +5
      Correct article. The Americans have nothing to do on our shores - all the more so, so far from theirs. And there is nothing to establish your own rules here: "Airplanes like flying close to our boat" - I don't like it, so bring them to your States! We do not climb to you!
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 19 2016 12: 36
        +1
        Quote: Dembel 77
        "Airplanes like flying close to our boat" - do not like it, so bring it down to your States! We do not climb to you!

        The steps and actions of the mattresses are quite logical. They are looking for ways to get around our coastal electronic warfare systems, so that when the time comes, to intercept our ICBMs with the Standards on the booster section, since this type of destroyer is an element of missile defense. And the span of our 24s is nothing but demonstration that they will not succeed. In this regard, the twelve-fold flight of the SU-24 off the coast of Crimea over Cook is very clear.
      2. Hyppopotut
        Hyppopotut April 19 2016 14: 51
        -3
        - "We do not climb to you!"
        Are you sure? wassat
  • Boatsman_Palych
    Boatsman_Palych April 19 2016 12: 39
    +3
    It's just that in their pride they equate their concept of "exclusivity" - and untouchability, and immortality;)
  • clidon
    clidon April 19 2016 21: 27
    -1
    Hey, don't steal North Korean phrases from them. True, they say that about everyone. For they know that they alone are exceptional.
  • Persistent
    Persistent April 20 2016 16: 58
    +2
    US Secretary of State John Kerry loudly stated that the crew of the destroyer Donald Cook had the right to shoot down the Russian Su-24, flying around an American warship.

    To NATO’s demand to punish the Russian pilot Su-24, which frightened the sailors of their destroyer in the Baltic Sea, Lavrov replies:
    - As a result of the investigation, the guilty party was identified - Captain Sidorchuk. Major Sidorchuk was reprimanded for this. If Major Sidorchuk once again throws something like that, then we will announce to Colonel Sidorchuk the most severe reprimand ... laughing good
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 20 2016 23: 22
    +1
    These Dunken MacLeods completely lost their scent, and now the whole world should look for their lost SCENT. From our bell tower - but why? America is a non-donation, they have not yet taken shape according to the concepts of civilization. A monkey with a grenade, a kid with a PKK, will shoot anywhere, until you take it. So it’s necessary to treat them as immature, and to use force is not a sin. They will piss over the minutans3 to shoot, not that sourdough - their jeans are closer to the anus. Ugh, traders. We don’t need to be afraid ourselves, we’re talking hard. We have seen a lot of exceptional
  • OlegLex
    OlegLex April 21 2016 21: 48
    0
    War has its own laws. Either we drown the destroyer, or he lowers his flag. There is no third. And an empty chatter here is no longer appropriate.

    Very correct statement
  • tiredwithall
    tiredwithall April 19 2016 10: 09
    +10
    Rhetoric is becoming more aggressive. Signs of escalation just shine. It is time to accelerate the flow of arms into the army and revive the peace movement.
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    2. bocsman
      bocsman April 19 2016 10: 44
      +5
      Quote: tiredwithall
      Rhetoric is becoming more aggressive. Signs of escalation just shine. It is time to accelerate the flow of arms into the army and revive the peace movement.


      There is an old anecdote about what is most important in a tank. So the most important thing is, - Don't bz ... do it! And all the habits of the most "democratic democrats" of all the earth are precisely in intimidating those whom they cannot cope with by force. But it doesn't work here! This is where the rhetoric of the type will come down! If they wanted (could) I assure you that they shot down and did not frown. And so let the biomass from the USA trend and listen to their diapers and shake with pride in their "invincible" fleet. And about how "invincible" he was shown by the incident in the Black Sea. And who, if not the actual cook team, does not know this. Which they proved by fading like rats. Well, then you know.
  • Pitot
    Pitot April 19 2016 10: 11
    +1
    I agree completely. Especially with conclusions.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 19 2016 10: 12
    +8
    The USS was clearly off the coast of Russia with good intentions.
    What is the US so offended at? They didn’t drown him ...
    As for international law, it is as crooked as national law.
    It’s breathing: it turned out where it turned ...
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 April 19 2016 10: 13
    +1
    In this situation, it would not hurt to organize an "accident" Kuku ... then of course to apologize, but I think everyone and everything would understand ...
  • Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn April 19 2016 10: 15
    0
    Apparently, citizen Kerry has not let go of the grass since his protest youth in the ranks of the hippies, since now he is fighting for world war !? In the well-known Soviet film, Dr. Shpak correctly says about such drug addicted schizophrenics: "It is necessary to be treated"! Have you read the interview of the commander of the D.Cook ship, naval officers in both the USA and the Russian Federation, are they smart, adequate and educated, morally restrained and calm people, unlike their diplomats like the Secretary of State?
  • Flinky
    Flinky April 19 2016 10: 16
    +2
    Our ICBMs will fly through the joint venture, and not through the Euro-ass. Enough dope. There is nothing and no one to intercept them over the joint venture.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 19 2016 10: 17
    +1
    We have once again reminded the hegemon that he is in our economic zone, and he has nothing to do here. Did they threaten us to shoot down our plane? And the Baltic is a dangerous sea. There are many mines floating around since WWII. If their "Donald Cook" stumbles upon one such (or two, they love to swim in pairs) - who will save the crew?
    1. DMB_95
      DMB_95 April 19 2016 10: 29
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Did they threaten us to shoot down our plane? And the Baltic is a dangerous sea. There are many mines floating around since WWII. If their "Donald Cook" stumbles upon one such (or two, they love to swim in pairs) - who will save the crew?

      And really - why the hell not a single old mine has ever met with US ships in the Baltic ..? soldier
    2. lukewarm
      lukewarm April 19 2016 10: 48
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      who will save the crew?

      Helicopters and attack aircraft wink
      1. amirbek
        amirbek April 19 2016 11: 24
        0
        Quote: unwillingly
        Helicopters and attack aircraft

        I won’t be surprised if the transformers take photos from dryers - so that everything looks serious
      2. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko April 19 2016 11: 34
        0
        is this in the sense of "Crocodiles" and "Alligators"? somehow I hardly believe that someone will survive after rescue operation. in general, if God forbid this happens, they will sleep without fools. hi
    3. ametist415
      ametist415 April 19 2016 11: 34
      -3
      You are stupid buddy. A foreign warship may be located in the economic zone of another state. Are you personally ready to report to God for the death of a couple of hundred sailors in peacetime?
      1. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. April 19 2016 19: 43
        0
        Their political leadership will be accountable to God. Type Hilary or Obama.
  • Igor39
    Igor39 April 19 2016 10: 18
    0
    What is the point in front of them to throw beads?
    1. amirbek
      amirbek April 19 2016 11: 31
      0
      Quote: Igor39
      What is the point in front of them to throw beads?

      ... if yeuluston wakes up
  • magician
    magician April 19 2016 10: 18
    +2
    such maneuvers of potential friends will be closely watched. gain experience and correct mistakes. potential friends should clearly understand that retribution is not inevitable., our territories are our territories, let them learn to respect us!
  • semenov3005
    semenov3005 April 19 2016 10: 19
    +3
    A good article should get to dumbheads
  • Yuyuka
    Yuyuka April 19 2016 10: 19
    +2
    US Secretary of State John Kerry loudly stated that the crew of the destroyer Donald Cook had the right to shoot down the Russian Su-24, flying around an American warship. Literally: “We condemn this behavior. This is reckless. In accordance with the rules of warfare, Russian aircraft could be shot down. ”

    just a man went over on the eve, had a terrible dream, jumps up - and here it is on you! I overslept the beginning of the war with Russia! How could it have begun without him! belay It seems that the n (art) ry revisited Hollywood disaster films, stopped distinguishing where is reality and where are the spring exacerbations ... Reminds the old story with theirs Eneral, who shouted "The Russians are coming!" jumped out the window. Just in case, Kerry should have cut the grill on the window so that he does not linger on leaving wassat
  • weksha50
    weksha50 April 19 2016 10: 19
    +1
    Actually, there’s nothing to say here ...

    Destroyers of this type, like parts of the Strategic Missile Forces, perform a combat mission around the clock (while on a military campaign) ...

    So - whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword ...

    And Kerry completely lost the coast: today's Russia is not Russia of the 90s, and talking with her in this tone is not permissible ...
  • mamont5
    mamont5 April 19 2016 10: 19
    +12
    "according to John Kerry, the missile defense destroyer Donald Cook is at war. He came to our Baltic not for peaceful purposes. He came to fight with us, violating all international norms. And if so, John Kerry should know that war has its own laws. Either we sink the destroyer, or it lowers its flag. There is no third given. And idle chatter is no longer appropriate here. "

    Right Well said. If Cook didn’t come to his senses, the amers would have to sing:
    "In vain is Obama waiting for" Cook "home ...
    Washed by the cold Baltic wave
    It lies on the bottom, with a leaky stern. "
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA April 19 2016 10: 19
    -7
    Emotions are a good thing. But between the United States and Russia, the "Agreement between the Government of the USSR and the Government of the United States of America on the Prevention of Incidents on the High Seas and in the Airspace Above It" is still in force.
    Article IV
    The commanders of the aircraft crews of each of the Parties should exercise the greatest caution and prudence when approaching the aircraft of the other Party operating over the high seas and the ships of the other Party operating on the high seas, in particular, ships engaged in the release or reception of aircraft, and in the interests of mutual safety should not be allowed: imitating attacks by imitating the use of weapons on airplanes, any ships, performing various aerobatic figures over ships and dropping various objects near them in such a way that they represent a danger to ships or interference with navigation.

    And I can imagine what kind of shout would rise to the VO, if a pair of Super Hornets had arranged demonstration performances over the "Moscow" or "Varyag".
    1. AID.S
      AID.S April 19 2016 10: 30
      +13
      Quote: Alexey RA
      And I can imagine what kind of shout would rise to the VO, if a pair of Super Hornets had arranged demonstration performances over the "Moscow" or "Varyag".

      I support, I would have raged myself if the Superhornets tried to fly over the "Moscow" near Miami.
    2. lukewarm
      lukewarm April 19 2016 10: 54
      +5
      Are YOU sure you didn't? During the "First Cold" - for sure, now - "escorting" the plane of our Minister of Defense comes to mind. IMHO some of your objectivity is too objective in the current environment. So you can agree to ... And, yes, we somehow manage without yelling, it's more for you.
      1. starpom
        starpom April 19 2016 11: 52
        +5
        I remember 1987, Bay of Biscay, training ship "Perekop". A couple of "F-16" for about 20 minutes did what they wanted ...
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 19 2016 10: 57
      +5
      In the US Exclusive Economic Zone? Yes, please ... They intercept our missile carriers regularly, but the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation do not scream about "unprofessional" and "can be shot down"
    4. Aleksander
      Aleksander April 19 2016 11: 10
      +6
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Parties in force over the open sea, and the ships of the other Party operating on the high seas, in particular, to ships engaged in the release or reception of aircraft, and in the interests of mutual security should not be allowed to: simulate attacks by simulating the use of weapons on aircraft, any ships, performing various aerobatic figures over ships and dropping various objects near them in such a way that they constitute a danger to ships or interference with navigation


      The exclusive economic zone of Russia is NOT the open sea-ocean. The term "Peaceful passage" is not very suitable for destroyer. In addition, there was no imitation of the use of weapons, just like the figures above the ship.
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    6. V.ic
      V.ic April 19 2016 11: 13
      +1
      Quote: Alexey RA
      "... acting in open sea,..."

      Do you consider the territory of the Baltic an "open sea"? What is the function of Kattegat, Øresund, Skagerrak, known from the school course of geography?
    7. kolobok63
      kolobok63 April 19 2016 12: 32
      +1
      I recommend that you recall the Kursk tragedy and everything will fall into place! hi
      1. V.ic
        V.ic April 19 2016 14: 42
        +2
        Quote: kolobok63
        I recommend that you recall the Kursk tragedy and everything will fall into place!

        The tragedy of the Kursk was caused by the weakness of the Russian Federation at that time. Sorry, I don’t believe in the version of self-detonation on our own torpedo!
        I just thought that you wanted to hook me with the analogy of the White Sea with the Baltic Sea? I indicated in my commentary above as many as 3 (three) straits, which do not allow the Baltic Sea to be considered "open". Would you be so kind to name at least one strait for the White Sea, separating it from the Barents Sea? If you give the geographical name of such a strait for the White Sea, then I will be ready to change my point of view. The name of the strait in the studio!
        1. Captain45
          Captain45 April 19 2016 19: 38
          0
          Quote: V.ic
          Would you be so kind as to name at least one strait for the White Sea that separates it from the Barents Sea?

          You are obviously in the heat of the day incorrectly expressed. Strait it does not separate, but rather connects
          Quote: V.ic
          If you give the geographical name of such a strait for the White Sea, then I will be ready to change my point of view. The name of the strait in the studio!

          Unfortunately, I don’t have a geographical map on hand and I'm not quite sure that this name is on the map or in the atlas, but I remember the strait connecting the White and Barents Seas throat.So they say, the throat of the White Sea, in any case, such a name was repeatedly found in books describing the nature of the Kola Peninsula
          1. V.ic
            V.ic April 20 2016 06: 26
            0
            Quote: Captain45
            .Strait it does not separate, but rather connects

            Let's call the water area between the adjacent sections of adjacent seas a strait. Whether to install artillery batteries on its shores or build airfields, this question will determine "separates" or "connects". Everything in the world is relative and the correctness of the expressed thought is determined by the correctness of the initial premises.
            Quote: Captain45
            I remember the strait connecting the White and Barents seas called the throat.

            From the lessons of school geography, I also remember this, but nevertheless the name "Strait of name" is absent, and since the name is absent, therefore, the strait too, formal logic!
  • Izotovp
    Izotovp April 19 2016 10: 21
    0
    Let them say thanks for the time being limited to this form of impact. I am sure that more serious arguments are enough for all sorts of Donalds and McDucks, but ... No need to rush))))
  • atamankko
    atamankko April 19 2016 10: 26
    +1
    There are no international rules for "exceptional"
    maybe we don't give a damn about them.
  • Rusfaner
    Rusfaner April 19 2016 10: 27
    +1
    In a combat situation, the passage of "dryers" over Cook means a passage over the place where Cook, shortly, met with several anti-ship missiles. For photographing the result. I think so.
  • demiurg
    demiurg April 19 2016 10: 27
    0
    It is interesting if they do climb to the disputed islands where China is washing itself an air base, will airplanes with suspensions fly around them there or not? Or will China simply shoot at sea targets on the way of the Americans?
  • pavelty
    pavelty April 19 2016 10: 29
    +1
    Well, the author laid out everything, on the shelves.
  • cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe April 19 2016 10: 33
    0
    Come on, come on, let's go back to the previous publication on this subject and see who is there who hardest hit the State Department in unison with the talking head.
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 19 2016 10: 34
    0
    6th, 8th, 100500th ... I wonder at Lavrov's endurance - why does this two-faced anus of kerry still not walk with a broken jaw?
    1. Leto
      Leto April 19 2016 11: 08
      0
      Quote: iliitch
      I wonder at Lavrov’s endurance - why does this two-faced Kerry anus still not go with a broken jaw?

      And if the opposite happens? Or are you like in an anecdote, "-and if he is us? -And why are we!"
  • Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer April 19 2016 10: 38
    +3
    The arguments in the article are logical, plus. With those who, apart from power, do not understand anything, it is impossible otherwise.
    1. cniza
      cniza April 19 2016 10: 43
      +4
      Quote: Red_Hamer
      The arguments in the article are logical, plus. With those who, apart from power, do not understand anything, it is impossible otherwise.


      Unfortunately, yes, until they try the kick they will not believe that they can receive it.
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  • demiurg
    demiurg April 19 2016 10: 41
    +12
    Quote: Alexey RA

    And I can imagine what kind of shout would rise to the VO, if a pair of Super Hornets had arranged demonstration performances over the "Moscow" or "Varyag".


    You better imagine a scream in the USA if suddenly Moscow or the Varangian is 70 km from Norfolk. Kerry would cut his mouth wider to scream louder. So we all did the right thing.
  • Shadowcat
    Shadowcat April 19 2016 10: 44
    0
    Very interesting....
  • CORNET
    CORNET April 19 2016 10: 45
    +2
    Kerry scared scream, just balm for the soul! Hooligans men, this is in Russian ...
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander April 19 2016 10: 51
    +5
    Any state does not have the right to restrict peaceful passage through such seas, however, Pakistan, India, Brazil and China have imposed such restrictions on military vessels and ships of foreign states - a priori considering (and it’s hard to disagree) that any warship of a foreign state - obviously not a peaceful object

    Indeed, it is absolutely logical. It is strange that Russia did not accept the same restriction — it is necessary and urgent!
    It is wild that the enemy’s most powerful strike ship freely splashes about 70 km from the Navy base. It is not the pilots who have to drive him away, but the LEGISLATORS and DIPLOMATES, introducing a ban on the passage of MILITARY ships in the economic zone of Russia.
  • Lens
    Lens April 19 2016 10: 54
    -8
    At the end of the article, the author raised the main, in his opinion, question "did he have the right? ..." So the answer to it is no. Alas ... De jure. The author considered the options for disrupting economic waters for a long time and in detail, but all this is far-fetched enough. Let the entire nuclear fleet line up in a column of sixteen. If the vessel does not perform certain actions, it is not punishable. A more understandable example - every man has a penis, but this is not a reason to instantly attract him as a maniac rapist! It is another matter if he climbed into the panties of a citizen without her consent.
    But the author is silent about the 1982 UN convention on the law of the sea. And in it, in black and white, "... prohibitive actions are deliberate and dangerous overflights of foreign ships at low altitudes by military aircraft ..." So - he violated. Well, Keri either started talking, or the translators got it wrong. I'm not good at English ...
  • Holsten
    Holsten April 19 2016 10: 55
    +1
    The "Talking Head" once again confirmed that the United States provoked an attack on the SU-24 in order to test Russia's response. Making sure that there will be no retaliation "G.G." became insolent and began to frighten. If it goes on like this, it will be too late to be surprised at the visit of "Donald Cook" to the Neva River in order to open free American navigation around the world.
  • Volzhanin
    Volzhanin April 19 2016 10: 58
    +2
    But from this place in more detail:
    Either we drown the destroyer, or he lowers his flag. There is no third. And an empty chatter here is no longer appropriate.
    As I understand it, the destroyer was not sunk, nor was it forced to lower the mattress flag. They did not even turn on the huts, did not blind or paralyze electronic systems, as was the case in the Black Sea.
    Conclusion - the third is given! The destroyer, spit on everything, moved in a combat-ready state in the immediate vicinity of our borders and strategic targets. So, whatever one may say, the empty chatter from our side is AVAILABLE! Who is fooling around here?
  • dmitrii.safonov.dm
    dmitrii.safonov.dm April 19 2016 10: 59
    0
    Something really "cook" often goes wrong !!! I suggest next time Shoigu fly to Kaliningrad, accompanied by dryers and, in accordance with the "rules of military operations", shoot down a NATO interceptor !!!
  • koshmarik
    koshmarik April 19 2016 11: 02
    +5
    1. Alexey explained everything sensibly. 2. I am surprised at Kerry's naivety, who believes that it was necessary to bring down our plane, and that later it would never occur to him. And the fact that in a few minutes from Cook would remain only oil circles on the water.
    1. Leto
      Leto April 19 2016 11: 14
      +3
      Quote: koshmarik
      and then what will happen to him does not occur to him.

      What will happen? I am interested in this question from the first day, the Turks shot down and nothing special happened. Tourists from Russia will not be allowed to the USA? Will not sell the RD-180 rocket engines? Won't you buy Bush legs? Can I have your version of the consequences?
    2. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 19 2016 11: 54
      -2
      Quote: koshmarik
      I am surprised at Kerry's naivety, who believes that it was necessary to bring down our plane, and that later it would never occur to him.

      interesting logic. And what about the possible consequences of flying a warship at extremely low altitudes and simulating an attack in neutral waters?
      Curiously, on the ship’s official website, there’s nothing at all about incidents in the World Cup and BM.
  • karakuin
    karakuin April 19 2016 11: 07
    +2
    Sentence. As soon as this Cook again swims up, immediately of his beloved Khibina, and so every time in the off state he politely escorts to other people's territorial waters. Without control and communication. And there you look Kerya grunts again plaintively.
    1. Dimon19661
      Dimon19661 April 19 2016 11: 59
      0
      What does Khibina have to do with it, at least read the wiki.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 19 2016 13: 08
        -1
        Quote: Dimon19661
        What does Khibina have to do with it, at least read the wiki.

        nonetheless it's stupid
        Quote: karakuin
        Proposal.

        someone plus)
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 19 2016 12: 14
      +3
      Quote: karakuin
      Sentence. As soon as this Cook swims up again, immediately of his beloved Khibina,

      You don’t write this stupidity anymore. Firstly, there is no Khibiny complex on the SU-24. Second ... Khibiny’s system is not able to somehow affect the destroyer’s electronics, as its task is to create phantoms of the aircraft thereby confusing the missile launched into it.Khibiny is NOT ABLE for any suppression of electronics!
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 19 2016 12: 26
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        You do not write this stupidity anymore.

        Do not deprive the credulists of a beautiful heroic myth. They are ready with foam at the mouth to defend their illusions.
        Quote: NEXUS
        Firstly, on the SU-24 there is no Khibiny complex.

        I read somewhere that this is a variant of the KS-418E hibin for export Su-24MK, which didn’t go into series, but, like, it was decided to test, and then Cook turned up. laughing
  • shubin
    shubin April 19 2016 11: 09
    +3
    And if we assume, purely hypothetically, that drying, all the same, would be brought down, and not because
    Americans are so cool, but just somebody
    would crap out of fear, and clicked on a button, would our spirit have enough to answer, or would it cost protests and angry statements? That's the question.
  • PPD
    PPD April 19 2016 11: 12
    0
    How much noise due to nonsense. See wanted-love, good quality-human.
    When will you see the Amer destroyer? Tourist, so to speak. And why scream. laughing
  • Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 19 2016 11: 15
    +1
    I did not understand anything ... If everything that the author said were expressed to our "sworn partners", then it would be correct. But this was expressed to some incomprehensible "insurgents" from Russian citizens, who supposedly wished bad things for our plane. Rave. I just want to give advice to the author - go and tell all this to our diplomats so that they pass on everything "word for word" to the Americans and their European henchmen, why should we say something.
  • Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf April 19 2016 11: 18
    +2
    I wonder what kind of .... bad people they wanted our plane to be shot down? They clean the pyataks for such Wishlist in a decent society. And now there is a war and it is necessary to bring down such trees on a zugunder, for the benefit of the Motherland. They are worn with them like chicken with an egg. Although they should expect from the ruling liberoids. They don’t plant their own, they give them a run over the hill, if it comes to it. Ugh, disgusting.
  • Lens
    Lens April 19 2016 11: 23
    -5
    It’s strange. Outlined the legal side of the conflict and earned cons. Gentlemen minus, but what about international law? Or does mother really hurt her eyes?
    1. kolobok63
      kolobok63 April 19 2016 12: 37
      +1
      Dill-NO! hi
    2. AID.S
      AID.S April 19 2016 12: 57
      0
      Quote: Lens
      It’s strange. Outlined the legal side of the conflict and earned cons. Gentlemen minus, but what about international law? Or does mother really hurt her eyes?

      "Mlskal is not my fellow countryman", and now translated into Russian - "America does not recognize the primacy of international law"
  • Cananecat
    Cananecat April 19 2016 11: 31
    +1
    And now think about it, an aunt with PMS lifelong syndrome comes to power in Matrasia, and gives the order to shoot down our planes or judge their ship captains who have not fulfilled the order ...
  • kamski
    kamski April 19 2016 11: 32
    +3
    I consider the actions of our Air Force to be correct and it is necessary to act in the same vein. but we cannot allow the same scenario as happened when our SU 24 was shot down by Turkish forces. I hope that during this show in the Baltic, a link of Aircraft Armed with the necessary means was nearby with the task of DROPING A DESTROYER. Making such a STEP, it will be necessary to do the second if the situation develops according to a tough scenario. In any other case, you just don’t have to get involved.
  • 4ekist
    4ekist April 19 2016 11: 33
    0
    Quote: Giant thought
    Ours again wiped the nose of the mattresses, so they squeal like little pigs, but nothing, let them get used to the new military-political alignment in the world.

    It is often necessary to wipe their nose in the districts of Alaska, Florida, in the Caribbean, only by underwater vessels.
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm April 19 2016 11: 36
    +2
    The debate boiled down to the fact that in neutral waters a USS could sail anywhere, and do whatever it pleased.

    Why are Americans outraged by this logic?
    If an American destroyer can sail in neutral waters, then a Russian plane can fly anywhere in neutral waters and do whatever it pleases.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 19 2016 12: 18
      0
      Quote: saturn.mmm
      Why are Americans outraged by this logic?


      because .... and in the interests of mutual security, they should not allow: imitating attacks by simulating the use of weapons on airplanes, any ships, performing various aerobatic figures over ships and dropping various objects near them in such a way that they pose a danger to ships or interference with navigation . Article 4 of the Agreement between the governments of the USSR and the USA on the prevention of incidents in the open sea and airspace above it.
      1972g.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm April 19 2016 13: 55
        +2
        Quote: Pinky F.
        because .... and in the interests of mutual security, they should not allow: imitating attacks by simulating the use of weapons on airplanes, any ships, performing various aerobatic figures over ships and dropping various objects near them so that they pose a danger to ships or interference for navigation.

        And what of this did Russian pilots violate this time? Have you seen the video? No one flew over and dropped nothing. An American ship is walking in the Baltic Sea near the coast of Russia, Russian planes flew over the sea near their shores, flew near their ship, and so what? When Russian strategic bombers fly close to NATO countries, their planes approach strategists, for they have not heard discontent and threats from the Russian authorities.
  • Velizariy
    Velizariy April 19 2016 11: 43
    +2
    ... which extreme modifications ...
    Maybe enough because of stupid superstitions to distort and trash the Russian language? The flesh happens, and the model is only the last!
    1. Jack-b
      Jack-b April 19 2016 11: 53
      0
      Quote: Velizariy
      Extreme flesh

      Extreme vulgarity may be some connoisseurs of the Russian language. This is much worse than slightly loose variations of the use of words.
  • engineer74
    engineer74 April 19 2016 11: 49
    +7
    I do not understand something! what Why did the flight over deck suddenly become a "fake attack"? Imitation of an attack, in my understanding, is the capture and tracking of the target of the aircraft's control system, the inclusion of electronic warfare systems and the withdrawal after a conditional launch, all this at a distance of 50-200 km from the ship! And flying over the deck is either a polite hint or petty hooliganism! Or do they think that the Russians, as in the First World War, will throw grenades and fire them from a revolver? wassat
    Stupid people with double standards ...
    1. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad April 19 2016 21: 33
      +2
      It's just that the representatives of the "hegemons" felt a little small and "made up" when, in confusion and helplessness, they turned their heads while watching the low-level flight of our Su-shek.
      By the way, in the distant "stagnant" times, their planes often also flew over our military and training ships, only this did not happen off the coast of the United States. But ours behaved with dignity, and did not shudder. My uncle, who served in the navy in the 70s, has in his demob album several pictures of "enemy" aircraft, for example, met off the coast of Africa.
      So everything is fine. Let them know their place.
  • x.andvlad
    x.andvlad April 19 2016 12: 01
    +3
    The Americans are constantly and brazenly grope on our noses for the line from which we begin our response. They are well aware that their actions are provocative. And Kerry's loud statements that "Cook" could have shot down our planes, speaks of the mondrage that the Americans are experiencing when approaching our borders. And also these are statements for the "kids" from the Baltic States and Poland, whom they took for education. Let them risk their health. And even if they do not even hope that they will be allowed to dominate our borders.
  • Shark Lover
    Shark Lover April 19 2016 12: 01
    +2
    Nice boat. Strong The second time already looms. The second time already offended. God loves the trinity. As if a submarine for the third time did not.
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  • Vasili09
    Vasili09 April 19 2016 12: 07
    -3
    what kind of ass did this nonsense ??? that is, we from Kaliningrad can threaten half of Europe, and one cruiser (this cruiser guano that can scare him with junk) cannot be in the Baltic Sea, since it can intercept our ballistic missiles, that is, it will not allow us to fulfill our threats, it thereby threatening peace and tranquility in the region .... where is the logic?
    on the account of what the Americans can do, but whatever they want, they will not listen to our insurgents in this regard, they are not interested in anyone's approval, as well as condemnation, it’s like in the fable "the pug barks, the elephant knows it.
    By the way, we also decided to do this, but probably the "weight" is not enough
  • iouris
    iouris April 19 2016 12: 09
    +2
    Such a ship should not enter the Baltic Sea. Until the Caribbean Crisis 2 happens, the situation will not change. Let me remind you that the deployment of missiles in Cuba began after the deployment of US medium-range nuclear missiles in Turkey.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 April 19 2016 12: 12
    +5
    In this regard, I will try to open my eyes to some short-sighted citizens of the Russian Federation
    The blind deaf will not see !, and therefore, it was necessary to continue.
    The eleventh. It is high time to ensure the security of the state not only in the field of "territorial" sovereignty, but also ideological. The cattle swamp must be drained, and the weed must be pulled out, including through toughening criminal prosecution measures aimed at protecting the state and society from the "accomplices and friends" of the West. Why the citizens of the country can remain those who deliberately strive to destroy the independent Russian state and society, who live exclusively at the expense of anti-Russian rhetoric. Why aren't those who openly call for the overthrow of the government to sit?
    Probably because there will be many additional "Why ...": - Why are there structures in the state system that in fact limit its sovereignty, why the Chubais feel at ease, why the Serdyukovs are not punishable, why the measure of responsibility and punishment back proportional to the size of the wallet or the position of an official in the structure of the state?
    1. mihasik
      mihasik April 19 2016 13: 39
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      Quote: Vladimir61
      It is high time to ensure the security of the state not only in the field of "territorial" sovereignty, but also ideological. The cattle swamp must be drained, and the weed must be pulled out, including through toughening criminal prosecution measures aimed at protecting the state and society from the "accomplices and friends" of the West.

      How do you imagine doing this if in power liberals inveterate sympathize with the Western development model?