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Donetsk boiler: Shary, Zakharchenko, Lyagin and the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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Boils a little, apparently. The online community pretty shook up the statement of Anatoly Sharia that he will no longer be engaged in the creation of clips on the DPR. With the recall of their correspondents from there.


Well, the logical conclusion of the activity. Maybe it's a secret for someone that with censorship in the DPR everything is just fine, for me personally there is no secret. Someone may say that Anatoly was angry with the fact that his rather provocative reportage was negatively perceived by the community, there are some, but the fact that the reportage perfectly showed the state of minds in Donetsk is obvious. As well as the fact that most of the respondents didn’t really say anything. In addition to common stamps. Well, the fact that the part did not know what kind of holiday it was was a song.



But the fact that Sharia’s correspondents could receive threats addressed to them, I believe in it, because I receive it myself. Of course, not in such quantities, but there is little. And what about those who work "on the ground"? I understand Anatoly perfectly. Like the fact that, despite the "encryption", each of the correspondents may well play "the basement."

Well, Shary still fell under the principle of "either good or no." It is a pity, of course, since he never lied to lies. You can talk for a long time on the subject of whose Shary, but the fact that he did his job correctly, is a fact. It is a pity, I repeat, this is a great loss for those who want to know the situation not only from the DAN issues.

The fact that virtually everything in the DPR is strangled by censorship is obvious. I watched the local blogging reaction to the events of the evening of April 12, when someone fired a grenade launcher in the center of Donetsk. "Hello" was planned to transfer to Darya Morozova, the ombudsman. Morozova deals (and rather successfully) with the exchange of prisoners of war and civilians between Ukraine and the DPR. So, the information spread through social networks pretty quickly. But everyone was silent. Waited for the official version. And as soon as it was announced (as usual, by unknown persons), everyone exhaled and rushed to scribble with relief.

The reproach is not about the bloggers of Donetsk. No complaints. It would be desirable to live, and to live in freedom all the more. Negative and so above the roof. I give just as a fact. Another fact of action unknown, but effective "DRG MAT". No more.

It is clear that Morozova could not interfere with anybody’s activities. Probably, only with the exception of those who would be interested to make an exchange on a commercial basis.

Go ahead. On the same day, April 12, the same DAN news agency reported the resignation of Roman Lyagin, the chairman of the CEC of the DPR. From the message, it became clear that the chairman of the CEC of the DPR, Roman Lyagin, "negligently treated his duties, systematically violated labor discipline and engaged in activities that went beyond the scope of his functions, including for the purpose of personal enrichment."

Well, peremoga? In general, it is not clear how such a scoundrel could ever hold this position ...

The whole problem is that all my sources in the DPR, who were at least a little familiar with Lyagin’s personality, characterized him as a frankly stubborn anti-Maidan. Moreover.

Back in the distant 2005 year, Lyagin created the anti-orange social organization “We”, which from birth had stood up in clear opposition to President Yushchenko. On the initiative of the Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine opened several criminal cases against Lyagin. And throughout his political activities, he openly advocated the accession of the eastern regions of Ukraine to Russia.

By the way, the deputies elected to the post of CEC chairman Lyakin by open voting.

And the most interesting. I do not know how he could personally enrich himself there, but they hinted to me that Roman Viktorovich was “bombing”. Rave? But no. The fact is that the Central Election Commission of the DPR is not formalized and the expenses for the remuneration of employees for its activities are not included in the state budget of the Republic.

During the entire existence of the commission, neither the chairman of the CEC nor the department officials received a single ruble or hryvnia.

Perhaps this is a grave crime: do not allow yourself and your family to die of hunger, doing the affairs of the republic for free.

But the dismissal is not over. In the evening of the same day, Roman Lyagin just disappeared. After visiting the receptionist Mr. Zakharchenko, from where he called home on April 16-30. More about his fate is not yet known.

Relatives turned to the Ministry of State Security, from where they were redirected to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, from the Ministry of Internal Affairs they were sent to the regional department, where a statement about the loss of Roman was made. On this all the actions are over.

There is information that a few days before these events, Lyagina was threatened by Andrey Kramar, the first deputy head of the executive committee of the OD "DR". Referring to the posts on Facebook on the personal page of Roman, Kramar urged him not to speak so harshly about the current government in the republic and to remove previously published notes.

And there was a man. It turns out that Alexander Zakharchenko has a brother. Sergey Vladimirovich. A native of Donetsk, 12.05.1982 was registered in the same place as the elder brother, in Donetsk, on ul. Vyatka, in the house number 6.

Interestingly, Sergei Zakharchenko does not occupy any posts or positions in the DPR. That in itself claims to originality. And there is no that in the official biography of the president of the republic, that in social networks. Invisible Man.

And how did the Donetsk residents learn about the existence of their brother from Alexander Zakharchenko?

Yes, he told. Here is how it was.

It all happened on April 10, in the evening, around the 20 clock, in the Beerstown brewery. A certain citizen with his friend, allegedly being intoxicated, went into the hall. And immediately began to pester the waitresses. Then, at the DJ console, after having pulled out a pistol, he began to incline the DJ and the waiters to joint drinking of alcohol.

Apparently, having been refused, this man grabbed a brandy glass and smashed it against the waiter, and threw the rest of the glass into his neck.

By that time, one of those present had already called the police. Drunk with a gun - still not the best surroundings for the normal drinking of beer.

Arriving attire in the door ran into a citizen who wanted to quickly leave the institution. And he was caught.

The detainee did indeed have with him documents in the name of Sergey Vladimirovich Zakharchenko, a pistol, a large amount of money in US dollars, and found several more in the car. weapons.

While checking the documents and searched the car, Zakharchenko managed to make a call by phone.

After some time, representatives of the security service A. Zakharchenko, identified as "Semyon" and "Berkut", arrived at the scene of the incident. They seized the recordings of the surveillance system in the bar and, taking Sergei Zakharchenko, took them away with them.

I am glad that in all the confusion they did not forget about the waiter. He was taken away by the ambulance that arrived; nothing threatens the life of the guy anymore. Great lucky, the artery is not hurt. However, the tendon on the neck is damaged by a cut.

You will think that in other cases it is better to be an orphan ...

Go ahead. I would like to say a few words to the APU. And, strange as it may look, kind words. I am extremely grateful and glad that on the day of such a stupidly stupid action as a multi-thousand gathering in the center of the city that is in the range of artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there was not a single inadequate able to send a couple of 152 mm shells to the city center. And thus punish the separatists for such carelessness. This is very cool.

But in the area gathered, as representatives say, from 20 to 50 thousands of people. Well, let it be even 10 thousands. It is terrible to think what kind of harvest could even collect two shells, flown into the city center. And they could. We flew earlier.

We write about the incessant shelling, supply problems, how hard it is for the people of Donbass. It turns out, time? No problem at all. Everything in the republic is just wonderful and beautiful. And Basurin, it turns out, every day bears nonsense in his reports, telling about the intensified shelling from the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. For if this were so, then no normal person would allow such meetings and marches to be held.

Forbidden before. In order to avoid human sacrifice. And then suddenly allowed. Or not suddenly? Here either really, or everything is in order, or reasonable people in the government of the DNI ended. Finally and irrevocably.

I understand Anatoly Sharia. And I begin to think that the topic of Donbass should be ended in an amicable way. And do not interfere with one to build a new republic, while others rejoice at this construction, since everything is so beautiful and wonderful.

There is DAN, there are a lot of authors, including, and we, who will write with pleasure, how balloons soar into the sky, how people wear multimeter ribbons, how happy the faces of people shine, probably, who understand that their life will now be bright and light.

We will rejoice with those of the Pitmen who will turn off the gas and the light, because their mines are broken, the factories have been shot by artillery. They, of course, understand better than me that this is necessary for the construction of a new republic. And they will live in the name of this worse than their former fellow citizens "on the other side."

We will rejoice with the former militiamen, dismissed "of their own volition" or for offenses some time before they received injuries or mutilations.

Let us be glad that there are fewer and fewer dishonest people like Khodakovsky in power, who spent money not in the right way or the wrong place. I received information that soon Mr. Timofeev, or "Tashkent", will become the deputy prime minister of the DPR. Which not once tried to dismiss for his frankly boorish tricks. And again and again, like a phoenix from the ashes, he rebelled and continued his activities for the good of the republic.

We will be glad that the trade turnover between LDNR and Mariupol increased from 0,62 billion hryvnia in 2014 to 1,5 billion hryvnia in 2015. There are trains, are vans, are products of Donbass enterprises.

We will be happy for Zakharchenko, Filippov, Timofeev, Verin, who can afford to buy real estate in Moscow. And which will be where to run in case of what and what to live. Unlike many residents of Donbass.

Perhaps I will also be pleased. If it is so necessary for the good of the republic. Silently.
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  1. domokl
    domokl April 15 2016 06: 19
    +53
    I watched the statement of Sharia. And the material about the holiday looked without cuts. I do not agree that a provocation. On the contrary, the students live their own lives .. And for them, a holiday is just a holiday. We, too, once celebrated the 7 of November and the 1 of May. All to the bulb for which we are going. The main thing is to get together and celebrate ... our youth.
    And by the way the gentlemen from Donetsk react, one can judge what is happening. Roman, well, criminal cases in the DPR will be added to criminal cases in Ukraine ... The first time or what? And about the militias. How many of those who returned to Russia are ready to go to the Donbass again? You know the answer.
    1. Totalwar
      Totalwar April 15 2016 06: 47
      +8
      The logical finale for the formation of the self-chosen God's chosen ones? recourse We are waiting for comments from the residents of LDNR ..
      1. atalef
        atalef April 15 2016 12: 17
        +4
        We will be glad that the trade turnover between LDNR and Mariupol increased from 0,62 billion hryvnia in 2014 to 1,5 billion hryvnia in 2015. There are trains, are vans, are products of Donbass enterprises.

        On January 1, 2014, the National Bank of Ukraine established official exchange rates at:
        799,3 UAH for 100 dollars

        8 hryvnia per dollar
        as of 31.12.15/24/XNUMX --- XNUMX hryvnias per dollar
        in 2014g --- 620mln hryvnia --- 77mln500t bucks
        2015 --- 1.5 billion hryvnias divided by 24 --- 62 million 500 tons of dollars
        So where is the growth?
        1. aleks700
          aleks700 April 15 2016 13: 46
          +3
          commodity circulation between LDNR and Mariupol increased from 0,62 billion hryvnias in 2014 to 1,5 billion hryvnias in 2015.


          31.12.15 --- 24 hryvnias per dollar
          in 2014g --- 620mln hryvnia --- 77mln500t bucks
          2015 g --- 1.5 billion hryvnias divide by 24 --- 62 million 500 bucks] So where is the growth?
          That was sarcasm.
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 April 15 2016 17: 15
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          So where is the growth?

          In hryvnias ... laughing
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      2. baudolino
        baudolino April 16 2016 08: 07
        +2
        In Donetsk, we have a clear sense of war very close by. I don't know where the author lives. But his need for "democracy and publicity" is annoying. Kindergarten of some kind.
    2. Vita vko
      Vita vko April 15 2016 07: 00
      +3
      Shariy, like Roman, reminds me of Strelkov's actions. Not only do they behave like an "elephant in a china shop", they also confidently pave the way to hell with their "good" intentions. Indeed, in the DPR and LPR, not everything is so simple and rosy. But how could it be otherwise, if the poor miners were forced to take up arms in order to resist the genocide by the oligarchs and the CIA who seized power in Kiev.
      1. domokl
        domokl April 15 2016 07: 20
        +25
        Quote: Vita VKO
        behave like an "elephant in a china shop", so with their "good" intentions they confidently pave the way to hell

        Do you really think that a revolution can be done by the methods of criminals? Again, man is nothing-all people? but for what revolution is that? What is this people made of?
        Something in your logic disgusts me ...
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 15 2016 07: 54
        +39
        Quote: Vita VKO
        Not only do they behave like an "elephant in a china shop", they also confidently pave the way to hell with their "good" intentions.

        To begin with, Shary is just a blogger, he never recognized either LDNR or Crimea. The fact that he constantly jokes over the Ukrainian authorities and the media does not give reason to suspect him of excessive love for the republics. For some reason, many decided that since he was mocking the new Ruin, then, a priori, he was for the Donbass and this poll was regarded as a betrayal. It’s like in a famous bike about how a foreigner was surprised at the Russians: they themselves litter their country as they want, but if it’s bad to say a bad thing about it to a foreigner, they’ll immediately fill their faces. what
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko April 15 2016 08: 31
          +6
          Quote: Vladimirets
          he constantly jokes

          Indeed "the standard of ethics and morality." About 10 thousand people were killed, including hundreds of children. It is even sickening to talk about sadistic methods of warfare by Bandera and VSUshniki. But then the "good wizard" Shariy appears and begins to engage in banter. In my opinion, even cynicism has a limit.
          1. Themi30
            Themi30 April 15 2016 10: 49
            +10
            Quote: Vita VKO

            But then the "good wizard" Shariy appears and begins to engage in banter.

            Question - "What are you celebrating?" is it a banter?
            The answer is "They drove us here" and "We were told to come" 60-70% of cases - is this all not true? Just like in Ukraine - you are completely new!
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          3. iliya87
            iliya87 April 15 2016 11: 36
            +13
            A banter over what? Give at least one example of a video from Anatoly, where you could say that it violates morality and ethics. I didn’t see something like that. Yes, he feels like the media of Ukraine presents information, but he didn’t joke in the same video and didn’t even give a hint about the dead or the bullying of the law-abductors.
            1. Roman Skomorokhov
              April 15 2016 12: 45
              +5
              Quote: iliya87
              Give at least one example of a video from Anatoly, where you could say that it violates morality and ethics. I have not seen anything like this. Yes, he stebet as the media of Ukraine presents information, but he was not joking in one video, and did not even hint at it about the dead or the mockery of pravoseki.


              Yes, by the way, and money for pensioners is a banter too? Then the question is, over whom?
          4. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets April 15 2016 13: 28
            +8
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Indeed "the standard of ethics and morality."

            Did I write that he was "the standard of ethics"? Why juggle?
            Quote: Vita VKO
            About 10 thousand people died, including hundreds of children. It’s even nauseous to talk about sadistic methods of warfare by Bandera and the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

            I have never seen that he rejoices in the loss of life or jokes about it. By the way, on the one hand, on the other hand.
          5. chanterelle
            chanterelle April 16 2016 08: 27
            +1
            Sharia didn’t have a banter in the first video, but you can’t call anything else that the authorities do with the republic today a banter. With one hand they drive the people to a demonstration in honor of nothing is known, and with the other they steal from the same people.
        2. guzik007
          guzik007 April 15 2016 09: 19
          +12
          . For some reason, many decided that since he was mocking the new Ruin, then, a priori, he was for the Donbass and this poll was regarded as a betrayal
          -------------------------------------------------- --------------------------
          Sharya did much smarter. He has long clearly and clearly outlined his position. He is over the conflict, such as an unemotional observer. I honestly didn’t accept this before. Now, in connection with the events in the Donbass I see clearly and clearly, drop dead shrewd people! Unlike enthusiastically naive bloggers, who 2 years ago lost their drool over the description of events, he (Shary) knows his people and their national features very well. How not to twist the blood of the inhabitants of Donbass greatly diluted purely Kaklyak Yushka with the ensuing ...
          1. avt
            avt April 15 2016 10: 53
            +10
            Quote: guzik007
            . He has long clearly and clearly outlined his position. He is over the conflict, such as an unemotional observer.

            laughing Once again - and where will he get away from the submarine, well, the EU, where did they give him refugee status!? laughing Do you really believe that there is no government for him there? And if he really starts gaining weight as a freelance journalist, will he not be tamed? Yes, if it goes across, instantly "visiting a fairy tale" will be in Kiev next to his "beloved" Gerashchenko. But he is a grated roll and clearly knows where to leave his front and it is better to be silent, and not to pour a drill. And now the campaign weighed all the risks from physical threats to himself, to reputation and made a decision, since in fact he is not a single gram of revolutionary better keep quiet. Moreover, complete silence for him is practically death in the profession, he decided to crush only the topic of Donbass. From a professional point of view, I got off the line beautifully and without losses, again for myself - the status of a political refugee and physical protection were preserved, my reputation too, the local correspondent network was preserved and mothballed. Quite professionally executed.
            Quote: siberalt
            . As for Zakharchenko or Khodakovsky, then who can reliably know what is cooked in this boiler?

            good Unlike the Bolsheviks, the spillover of the active phase of the Civil War, these people are not a gram of the Players of the scale of Lenin and Trotsky. The maximum level of field commanders - Sorokin in the Kuban, Makhno, Grigoriev, Bozhenko, Schors, Kotovsky actually in the same places. YES! I also forgot the Jap Bear. This is to the question raised by Roman
            I received information that soon Mr. Timofeev, or "Tashkent", will become DPR Deputy Prime Minister.
            By the way - the killer of Kotovsky was actually the owner of the brothel in Odessa, who was the deputy on the rear in the Kotovsky brigade and in the brothel of whom Kotovsky was hiding, well, when he was a raider wassat , and not the hero of the revolution, but who decided to shoot him when Kotovsky was appointed to the armored troops .... request
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        4. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K April 15 2016 09: 43
          +20
          Why Shary must be FOR WHAT SOMETHING? You didn’t think that he was just a journalist and could cover events as they are? Someone may like it, someone not, but in my opinion this is the most honest and correct.
          1. dauria
            dauria April 15 2016 11: 26
            +1
            You did not think that he was just a journalist and could cover events as they are


            And then live on what? sad No, in fact, without mockery, do not scam, but just live and do work, pay expenses to both him and the whole network?
            for what they have money will not pay. Always show PART OF IT
            1. Nikolay K
              Nikolay K April 16 2016 11: 34
              -1
              And then live on what?

              You probably know that the same YouTube pays very well for advertising. The more page views, the more Shariy earns. That is, you can get money not for selling someone else's opinion, but for telling your own opinion, if it is interesting to other people. And many people are already tired of the propaganda husk, they want to hear an independent opinion. This is such a "paradoxical" situation when you can make money by speaking the TRUTH.
          2. koshmarik
            koshmarik April 15 2016 12: 46
            +5
            Elderberry also covered events as they are. Where did you see objective journalists, and even at the height of the information war?
          3. Wolverine
            Wolverine April 15 2016 13: 09
            +1
            Here is a LADY, in two sentences I dotted the "I" +
        5. Oleg Sobol
          Oleg Sobol April 15 2016 10: 16
          +14
          Quote: Vladimirets
          To begin with, Shary is just a blogger, never recognized either LDNR or Crimea

          Not just a blogger, but one of the few who are honest with both themselves and others.

          “I will gladly continue in Ukraine and Europe, there are many places where you can get information. I will continue to struggle with untruthful information and engage in our policies. I will not hand over people in Crimea who never allowed themselves bestiality towards me despite my position on the One. Therefore, those who are now screaming "all, Sharia is not there!"


        6. avt
          avt April 15 2016 10: 34
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          To begin with, Shary is just a blogger, he never recognized either LDNR or Crimea. The fact that he constantly jokes over the Ukrainian authorities and the media does not give reason to suspect him of excessive love for the republics.

          good Again, like Lenin lives in exile as a political refugee and you can tell me anything, but if you see that he ... well, it’s not going the wrong way, it’s not a problem to deploy him.
          Quote: Vladimirets
          For some reason, many decided that since he was mocking the new Ruin, then, a priori, he was for the Donbass

          Although he himself never said such a thing anywhere. He clearly, like the late Buzin, positioned himself as a Ukrainian of an independent Ukraine, with all the concepts arising from these words. But here’s what actually I can’t understand from Roman’s message, so this
          We will be glad that the trade turnover between LDNR and Mariupol increased from 0,62 billion hryvnia in 2014 to 1,5 billion hryvnia in 2015. There are trains, are vans, are products of Donbass enterprises.
          What alternative is offered? Trim everything and stop the production, which has been tied since Soviet times, not only in one area now divided, but also with neighboring areas. Yes, and there is a civil war there, and not like in 1941-1945. And the people in Mariupol are generally the same from Donetsk, and Kramatorsk and Slavyansk generally left. So the connections remained, this is not a disaster, but an achievement. But the question of who uses it and how, is a separate issue, but even it should be considered with a cold head. But the fact that
          We will be happy for Zakharchenko, Filippov, Timofeev, Verin, who can afford to buy real estate in Moscow. And which will be where to run in case of what and what to live. Unlike many residents of Donbass.
          So Comrade Trotsky, when his Stalin kicked out of the USSR, before the introduction of the ice ax, he also did not live on the fees from the articles. Surely there is something, well, firstly - nobody seemed to promise socialism there; secondly, if you don’t like what is happening there, fight, collect facts and voice it, well, at least that way. But of course you can
          Perhaps I will also be pleased. If it is so necessary for the good of the republic. Silently.
          This is also a choice of position, well, about the same as for many who do not go to the polls. Well, to which the column "against all" was canceled, and for the sake of protest for some kind of LDPR, it is disgusting to vote, well, suddenly they come to power. , especially for those who are smart, the prospect is rather gloomy. It is when most of the people are "silent" and regimes and states are collapsing sometimes afterwards, well, no one will come out with a weapon in their hands at the call. request
      3. zerg
        zerg April 15 2016 10: 45
        .
        I would say that it was Russia that was forced, due to the actions of the CIA, to force the poor stupid miners to pick up weapons, die, and cripple. Then they are safely thrown, for the sake of politics. But where is the intellectual Strelkov competing with such a gopot as Zakharchenko ... And what kind of genocide can this be, in more detail? Genocide is when destroyed on a national basis. APU scorching everything - it’s just war crimes ...
        1. avt
          avt April 15 2016 12: 22
          +5
          Quote: zerg
          I would say that it was Russia that was forced, due to the actions of the CIA, to force the poor stupid miners to take up arms,

          And the USA, due to the actions of the FSB, was forced to feed cookies from Nuland’s hands, to make stupid raguls jump and jump burning tires in the center of the capital, again to seize weapons in Ragulistan near the Polish border ?? Urgently to the psychiatrist for obtaining a certificate of fool any mental illness and with it, rather in a run, run to Parubiy as a substitute, well, as yet there is a place and others have not come running with certificates from a psychiatric clinic.
      4. Roman Skomorokhov
        April 15 2016 12: 44
        +6
        Quote: Vita VKO
        Shary, like Roman, reminds me of the actions of Strelkov.


        Nothing like a comparison.

        Quote: Vita VKO
        Not only do they behave like an "elephant in a china shop", they also confidently pave the way to hell with their "good" intentions.


        I would love to continue to pave the road to hell, especially to those who actually turn a good idea of ​​the republic into military feudalism. Because the only thing these people fear is publicity. But since no one needs it, it's easier, I'm sorry, to wash your hands.

        Quote: Vita VKO
        But how could it be otherwise, if the poor miners were forced to take up arms in order to resist the genocide on the part of the oligarchs and the CIA seized power in Kiev.


        Well, it is. But today, where are these miners? Poke me at least one deputy miner at least. Miners who have the opportunity - in their mines, because they need to trivially eat. And in power nichrome not miners. Not the militia. And all the same Otahmetovsky administrative resource plus outright bandits.
      5. atalef
        atalef April 15 2016 13: 12
        -3
        Quote: Vita VKO
        But how could it be otherwise, if the poor miners were forced to take up arms in order to resist the genocide on the part of the oligarchs and the CIA seized power in Kiev.

        miners laughing
    3. siberalt
      siberalt April 15 2016 09: 37
      +12
      Shariy has his own position. In his words, he lives in Italy, has his assistants, does not live in poverty. He supported neither the DPR, nor the LPR, nor the Kuevo junta, an opponent of the "annexation" of Crimea, an opponent of war. A master at exposing fake videos. As for Zakharchenko or Khodakovsky, then who can reliably know what is being cooked in this boiler? There are too many interweaving there and everything is being done for the first time, and even against the murky background of Minsk-2, to which sanctions against Russia are tied, and a lot of other things. There is a global game, a cruel game. Game at an ever-accelerating pace. Here, topical comments become obsolete in a few hours and acquire a different and often opposite meaning. Let's not sprinkle ashes on our heads, and it's too early to draw conclusions (while everything is in the process).
      Respect to Roman for purely operational information and honest expression of his position! hi
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        April 15 2016 12: 55
        +3
        Thank you.
        Actually, what's the difference, who lives where? The question is who says what and does.
        And the position is simple: time will put everything in its place.
    4. SklochPensioner
      SklochPensioner April 15 2016 13: 23
      +2
      Quote: domokl
      The main thing is to get together and celebrate ... our youth.

      Exactly the hell! I mean, 40 years ago it was smile
      Quote: domokl
      How many of those who returned to Russia are ready to go to the Donbass again?

      Serious question. I have to re-read the article tomorrow recourse
    5. Achilles
      Achilles April 15 2016 23: 29
      0
      I would say to him: "what would be with such stupid questions (namely," what has the government done during this time for you personally "), you better not approach, you wake up smarter" to do something, especially when there was a civil war and is still being fired upon, but his question of what we celebrate is appropriate, this question has become clear
  2. Quager
    Quager April 15 2016 06: 21
    +2
    Hmm, really besides money, they have no other values ​​left?
  3. strelets
    strelets April 15 2016 06: 31
    +9
    Hmm, people give their lives so that a drunk bastard had a bunch of dough and bodyguard. So how does Donbass with its censorship differ from the rest of Ukraine?
    1. black
      black April 15 2016 11: 02
      +4
      But basically nothing. Some wanted to live beautifully in the EU, others in Russia. My brother told me about one major police officer who had left for Mariupol and was waiting for Russia to come to Donetsk, he would return and happily heal in his former position with a new salary. And brother Zakhar is a famous person. Who needs to know.
  4. Scud
    Scud April 15 2016 06: 33
    -1
    Whatever, yes.
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  6. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid April 15 2016 07: 11
    +6
    I really liked Shariy's reports and I watched them as soon as they appeared. And recently I stopped. He had a story where he told people that "Russia will not take you to itself, as Europe does not take Ukraine to itself." More harsh expressions. Waited for answers. Confusion of people, as if from unexpected. I can not accurately quote, but it is not good. Cruel. For the sake of reporting.
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K April 15 2016 09: 47
      +1
      Cruel, but true. For Putin, the Donbass is just a bargaining chip for the Crimea. Politics is a dirty business, but not the journalists are to blame for this.
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek April 15 2016 09: 58
        +4
        For Putin, the Donbass is only a loose change to the Crimea.


        Not a fact.
        The problem was simply that the West fully supported the new Kiev vladu in 2014
        And to send troops to the Donbass apparently was very problematic from a political point of view.
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          April 15 2016 13: 01
          +2
          Quote: Nikolai K
          For Putin, the Donbass is only a loose change to the Crimea.


          Hard and not quite logical. Everything could be arranged easier, faster and cheaper. Namely, stop tumble money and material values. And everything would settle down much faster than it seems to all of us. Half would suddenly love Ukraine and start dreaming of an early return. Half would be washed off to Russia, because in Ukraine they would have their heads turned. But these would already be other refugees than in the 2014 year.

          And there are those who would leave, but there is no possibility. Old men mostly.
          1. ludoger
            ludoger April 15 2016 17: 18
            +4
            "Namely, stop pouring money and material values."
            prastiti. And control over poured hde? at the cantraler on the face in the form of sour cream condensate fell out? stop pouring, so tomorrow they roll us, and the day after tomorrow they will come to you.
            since the time of unarmed siparotism, the cocks kept a lapping hand on the pulse. and what? did the competent authorities not know who they were doing business with? were obliged to know, but with really patriots, you won’t get much money.
  7. shinobi
    shinobi April 15 2016 07: 40
    +3
    True, this is a personal point of view of an individual individual on the event. They did not shoot at the crowd just because you can’t write off an accident, and the ruin has to be reckoned with the opinion of the West.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek April 15 2016 09: 59
      0
      They didn’t shoot at the crowd just because it’s not an accident


      I beg you ... Ukraine is no longer a state. Someone from dobrabatovtsy could and shmulnut ...
      What is the responsibility?
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 15 2016 11: 08
      +2
      Quote: shinobi
      They didn’t shoot at the crowd just because you couldn’t write off chance, and the ruin has to be reckoned with the opinion of the West.

      Yes, no one in Kiev would blame it on any chance. Just once again would say that separatists shell residential areas of Donetsk.

      And the West, when it is profitable for him, does not swallow it. Remember the explosion on Vasa Miskin Street in 1992 in Sarajevo, which was instantly attributed to the Serbian mortars. Although they physically could not get there a mine. But the UN quickly imposed sanctions against the FRY.
  8. German Titov
    German Titov April 15 2016 07: 40
    +10
    Block "We" - model of 2006, pro-Yushchenko project. Litvin's block. Lyagin created it? About the possibility of "deliberate shelling of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of the city center" on the day of the rally, I don’t understand, the author is trying to prohibit us from celebrating on May 9?!? If they get to the center of the city, there are always plenty of people there and without rallies. As for the polls on the street, both by "correspondents of Sharia" and in Russia, you can conduct a poll - the main thing is how to present it. About "volunteers from Russia", and now they come, someone is leaving. Someone enlists in the army, someone leaves. There used to be a militia. "And I'm starting to think that the topic of Donbass should be finished well" (author). It was not necessary to start that way.
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      April 15 2016 13: 10
      +3
      Quote: German Titov
      I do not understand, the author is trying to forbid us to celebrate 9 in May?


      Yes you! Not on your nelly! And in his thoughts was not. Celebrate on health.

      Here only it is not necessary to distort, aha? Great doubt that in the center of the 20 thousands hang out every day. Or do you think that I, and I can not check how people gathered for this action? And what did the orders come to the schools and institutes signed by Nikitina?

      Decide too, you have a war there, because all meetings on any topic are prohibited, or there is no war and you can gather for any reason. Fearlessly.

      Or so: if the authorities said "it is possible and necessary" - all went to war, but if, like crippled militiamen, they wanted to hold a rally because they were not given disability benefits, it was impossible, because how was the war?

      Quote: German Titov
      "And I'm starting to think that the topic of Donbass should be finished well" (author). It was not necessary to start that way.


      Yes, again, no question. I just started in 2014. And 24 went with shipments. So I have the right. But - I will return it to you. Flourish and beyond.
      1. German Titov
        German Titov April 16 2016 08: 38
        +1
        Yes, again, no question. I just started in 2014. And 24 went with shipments. So I have the right. But - I will return it to you. Flourish and beyond.

        Yes for God's sake, Dear (no sarcasm). I really appreciate your personal input. I have been eating since spring 2014, also not at the grocery store. As for "flourish", of course, it is strongly said - you do not need to bite. Judge something superficially. 24 walks, I respect. Something on the "zonovskoe" concept looks like. I had one acquaintance (I can't compare with you), so that already 2 districts in the Rostov region (heads of administrations) were sent to "help Novorossiya". The account number still hangs on the "avatar". And in 2014-2015, some volunteers came here to "loot". War (whether you and I don’t know) unfortunately reveals sometimes the vile essence of man. In the DPR, a lot of things are done with errors, etc. We are not wizards - we are just learning.
        1. Dalmatia
          Dalmatia April 16 2016 09: 19
          0
          German Titov, you didn't like something specific in the article? Or do you dislike the criticism of the DPR leadership as such? And in what exactly does the author of the article judge superficially? There is irritation in your post, but you do not explain the reasons. As for the phrase "24 walks", it's a figurative expression. And if the essence of your claims to the author comes down to this very expression, then it is clear that you have nothing to argue with. With respect to the people of the DPR and LPR.
  9. Riv
    Riv April 15 2016 07: 48
    0
    DJs ... Drunk with a gun in a restaurant ... Rjunimagu.
    They have a war there, it seems? Respect to the author, amused with the utroz.
  10. samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 15 2016 07: 49
    +3
    Without "high" patronage, Zakharchenko's "basement" policy would have been impossible ... Article "+" for facts and emotions ... But the cycle of such articles itself resembles a kind of "discourse to cover up an unsuccessful policy" ...
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      April 15 2016 13: 11
      +4
      No politics. Absolutely.
  11. Nonna
    Nonna April 15 2016 07: 53
    +4
    So so so. This is a trend. Everyone together rushed to protect Sharia, I mean, those who regularly write articles on various resources. Is that an order from Sharia? On one site, someone Zakharchuk had already decided that Anatoly needed to give a hero. A man is sitting in Europe, obviously not in poverty, well, he is engaged in exposing yellow-blue ties, and then he suddenly decided to go around on Donetsk. Not a ride from Anatoly, grabbed dislikes and negative emotions. And there is no need to calm down - so two more videos of the insult have stuck. The people are always right, 40 thousand have unsubscribed from him. So the right conclusions were made by Anatoly, otherwise he would be left without subscribers at all.
    1. domokl
      domokl April 15 2016 08: 10
      +5
      Shary is an ordinary blogger. Who can say that he is for Ukraine? Nobody .. And for the republic? No one. And for Russia? No one .. So who protects him? The issue is not in protecting Sharia as a journalist. The question is how to deal with journalists in the Donbass. Understood war. It’s nice Ukrainian SBU everywhere. I don’t even want to talk about DRGs (already legendary after so many high-profile killings). And about the threats? And about people who constantly disappear somewhere? Enemies? Maybe so. Only in this case it is desirable to give facts. After all, this is not about mere mortals. It's about public people. And here is another demand
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  13. Cruorvult
    Cruorvult April 15 2016 08: 09
    +4
    There is also the flip side of the mirror, Rogers wrote:
    "Shary everything ..
    This is called a short four-letter Russian word - DRAIN ..
    Personally, I unsubscribed, because it is not interesting to see tantrums "

    and this Olenka came http://cs630416.vk.me/v630416502/25b07/jXI6kF5kwVg.jpg
    1. SklochPensioner
      SklochPensioner April 15 2016 13: 39
      0
      Quote: CruorVult
      There is also the flip side of the mirror, Rogers wrote:

      Excuse me, Mr. CruorVult, what are you talking about?
      Who you are?
      Quote: CruorVult
      Rogers wrote:

      Okay, it's Friday night ... But you are at work!
      How not ashamed!
  14. jekasimf
    jekasimf April 15 2016 08: 44
    +13
    After the murder of Bednov, and especially after the murder of Mozgovoy, all this DNI and LC ceased to be interesting to me. And recently, the attempt on Givi ..... And the fact that Strelkov was removed from there on time is very wise and far-sighted. Otherwise, he would be the first on the list.
    It’s not in vain that Strelkov kept Zakharchenko in the basement. The official version is for the wake of the war post.
  15. shcishcok
    shcishcok April 15 2016 08: 46
    +5
    stranger and weirder, the little girl Alice used to say. The reason is that in Ukraine censorship crushes people, which is in the DPR. 25 years of living together were not in vain - one people, some methods. That in Ukraine there are strange deaths, that in the DPR and LPR. The power of people is changing.
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 15 2016 08: 53
    +2
    I understood one thing, that I didn’t understand a damn thing. What is there bickering for a warm place in the sun, in which case, what are they better than Offal with its state-owned company, and most importantly, why do people die?
    1. jetfors_84
      jetfors_84 April 15 2016 09: 13
      +4
      Yes, as usual at all times, foam comes to power. Which kill everyone on their way to the feeding trough. If you look at the original slogans and patriotic moods, there is nothing left either in the Donbass or in Abkhazia. Quasi-republics and in the future there will be a struggle for power there.
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 15 2016 09: 31
    +6
    I carefully read all the comments. I want to express my personal opinion. If I lived there, or periodically visited this region, I would express a specific opinion about the article. And so you have to be content with only certain information in the media and on our website. Therefore, I try not to comment on such painful topics. And Roman writes what he sees or as it seems to him that he sees. There are no and cannot be claims to the author.
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  19. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 April 15 2016 09: 45
    +6
    This is what half measures lead to. Russia provided assistance, and then everything went on its own. Sanctions will not be lifted in the foreseeable future, and the situation in the Donbass is alarming and the aggravation will be, as always, at the most inopportune moment.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 15 2016 10: 21
      +11
      Quote: Tupolev-95
      This is what half measures lead to. Russia provided assistance, and then everything went on its own.

      Yes, they were waiting for help, but much earlier, then disappointment came. They started not for the sake of help, but alas, they did not take into account that capitalism is in Russia. and when now in the DPR they sell candies from the Roshen factory ...painful and insulting for people whose betrayal of a dream!
      1. Stena
        Stena April 15 2016 10: 57
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        painful and insulting for people whose betrayal of a dream!

        My dream was to fly into space. And then the USSR collapsed and the dream became different ... In this regard, everything is very arbitrary. There are facts, there is complete information about them and there is not complete ... Here, our information is not complete, and the conclusions are very emotional!
      2. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution April 15 2016 19: 50
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        and when now in the DPR they sell candies from the Roshen factory ... it hurts and insults for the people whose dream has been betrayed!

        What prevents you from buying these sweets or does someone force them to buy them?) If you sell them, then there is a demand.
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  20. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf April 15 2016 10: 30
    +1
    And now what articles are they supposed to write? They themselves shouted that Minsk 1,2,3,4, .... it’s KPP and a guarantor-superstrateg and the russey man. And everyone who does not recognize KPP-belolentochnye hands. Now what say It turns out that the whole KhPP has come down to the desire to help the oligarchs tear apart and push LDNR back to Khokhland, so that they do not spend the money stolen in Russia, but leave it to themselves. And at the head of the plan, Mr. Surkov, the general manager of the Khokhlov oligarchs .What, they stopped yelling and the plaintive articles went? Do you understand who you are dealing with?
    1. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 April 15 2016 12: 41
      0
      The HSP was invented by cunning political observers, but "reviewing" is not a bag of sacks, and even less of a country to govern. My personal opinion is that both when events were just beginning, and now they act according to the situation, trying to minimize our losses. As for the guarantor, he stated that he would not allow Ukraine to solve the problem of Donbass by military means, and so far he has kept his word. About what money stolen from Russia you mention a secret for me - please enlighten me. Of course, it would be great to accept Donetsk and Lugansk into Russia (if their population wishes, of course), but apparently there is not enough money or political will for this, or both. Another favorable option is changes in Ukraine itself, in which peaceful coexistence will be possible, but this is in a very long term. The Transnistrian option remains, although there is a significant plus - a common border with Russia. In any case, all the groaning in the spirit of "putinslil" and "this is KSP" are speculations of various kinds of "observers", but how time will tell.
      1. Bramb
        Bramb April 15 2016 16: 36
        0
        There will not be and cannot be any affiliation of LDNR!
        They talked about it a thousand times. Crimea is an autonomous republic and we have the right to self-determination, Donbass are regions and do not have this right! First, it is necessary to federalize Ukraine, create the republics of Donbass, and only then be determined.
        Everyone knows how these territories will be determined, therefore they do not hold referendums and the Minsk agreements are blocked.
        And the Ukrainians in the media can say anything.
        In Ukraine, every year will be worse and worse. In the Donbass, if they do not secede through a referendum, too. Separate - improvements begin. But Ukrainians will not do it: then it will immediately become clear that there is a Russian person and who are these shocking misunderstandings in the west of Ukraine. And no jumps and screams will not help not to see the obvious.
        And then even worse (for the State Department): the people, having seen the obvious, will choose the pro-Russian course and expel the pro-American juntas with all the consequences.
        This is briefly. I hope everyone here knows that the transfer of Crimea to the Americans was agreed with Petunia and Turchinov and scheduled for 2014? Therefore, it is impossible to compare the Donbass and the Crimea! It's like comparing sausage with an orange: completely different things!
        1. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 April 15 2016 17: 10
          0
          This is just the option that in the long run and at the same time it will be extremely painful for the population of Ukraine.
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  21. Normal ok
    Normal ok April 15 2016 10: 49
    +3
    Basurin, it turns out, every day in his reports carries nonsense, talking about the increased shelling by the APU. For if this were so, then no normal person would permit such meetings and processions. Forbidden before that. To avoid human casualties. And then suddenly they allowed. Or not suddenly?

    Of course "not suddenly". The usual agreement. I have enough acquaintances both in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and in the VSN, many confirm the existence of agreements. When it is necessary to show activity - artillery fires, when a big chief arrives on the front line (from either side of the front) - silence, and from both sides!
  22. black
    black April 15 2016 11: 13
    +5
    Gentlemen, don't break the keyboard. The restrained policy of Russia towards the LDNR comes from a clear understanding of what is happening there and how. I recall the story of a military adviser. It was in Ethiopia. The head of the airfield was an Ethiopian educated in Patrice Lulumba, and a Russian comrade was an aircraft technician. And then one day, the chief leads to our technician, a black guy and says: "You will teach him everything that needs to be done." And holds out a stick. "And why a stick?" "How will you teach him?"
  23. Dalmatia
    Dalmatia April 15 2016 11: 30
    +3
    A lot of negative information is about the situation in the leadership of the republics, ordinary people talk about it. And I believe them more than official sources.
  24. ruAlex
    ruAlex April 15 2016 12: 02
    +3
    I don’t want to be unsubstantiated, but based on the author’s publications on the topic of LDNR, it turns out that the entire top there turns into bandits?
  25. Rossiyanin
    Rossiyanin April 15 2016 12: 05
    +1
    For more disclosures, it will be to the benefit of the DPR.
  26. Yuzi
    Yuzi April 15 2016 13: 06
    +2
    Shary, although an experienced journalist and blogger, did not take into account the slightest thing: he did not have to ask this question to people living in constant fear - the fear of death, prison, etc. Yes, and a lot of just ordinary people, young people who do not understand what is happening, and simply would like peace. Very incorrect question. I would like to tell Sharia, Anatoly, do not be offended - just draw conclusions.
  27. Hlavaty
    Hlavaty April 15 2016 15: 08
    +2
    And I’m starting to think that the Donbass theme should be finished in a good way.


    The next step for a citizen of Ukraine is to "finish" the topic of Russia.
    Nefig to suffer bad hopes. We need to start learning the Ukrainian language (I’ve been really watching lately), try to hammer in “European” ideas (otherwise, sooner or later, you’ll sleep), learn new names of streets and cities, etc. etc. Constant viewing of Ukrainian television can help a lot in this. True, it is difficult without alcohol, but it will be better absorbed with alcohol - such operations on oneself cannot be performed without "anesthesia".

    N-yes, I began to write like a banter, and now I don’t even know ...
    1. Bramb
      Bramb April 15 2016 16: 40
      0
      Yeah. And what to do with the Ukrainian language? Get a job? In Europe or in Russia? ))) Both there and there they pay a lot more. And on the outskirts of the work will be less and less, even for little money.
      Some processes take time. As a cold: to recover, you need 7 days. Though heal, though not.))
      1. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty April 15 2016 20: 18
        +1
        Quote: Bramb
        Yeah. And what to do with the Ukrainian language?

        Speak it when they start killing for Russian or imprisonment (as Tyagnibok suggested).

        Quote: Bramb
        In Europe or in Russia?

        Not everyone can blame, some will have to survive in Ukraine.
        1. Bramb
          Bramb April 15 2016 20: 45
          +1
          These are the dreams of the Selyuk, whom no one has ever allowed into civilization. Only at night was allowed.
          Russian language is international! This means that any receipt on it is accepted by the European court. Mova does not apply to languages. And even a contract or any agreement by European courts is NOT accepted!
          Teach mov: become cattle!)))))
          1. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty April 16 2016 10: 45
            0
            Quote: Bramb
            These are the dreams of the Selyuk

            Who told you it's DREAMS. This tough reality in which millions of Ukrainians have to survive. Without much hope of a change in the situation.
        2. Yuzi
          Yuzi April 20 2016 16: 04
          0
          Very soon, the time will come when it will be embarrassing and insecure to speak Ukrainian on the territory of New Russia.
  28. ludoger
    ludoger April 15 2016 17: 29
    -1
    Quote: Bramb
    There will not be and cannot be any affiliation of LDNR!
    They talked about it a thousand times. Crimea is an autonomous republic and we have the right to self-determination, Donbass are regions and do not have this right! First, it is necessary to federalize Ukraine, create the republics of Donbass, and only then be determined.
    Everyone knows how these territories will be determined, therefore they do not hold referendums and the Minsk agreements are blocked.
    And the Ukrainians in the media can say anything.
    In Ukraine, every year will be worse and worse. In the Donbass, if they do not secede through a referendum, too. Separate - improvements begin. But Ukrainians will not do it: then it will immediately become clear that there is a Russian person and who are these shocking misunderstandings in the west of Ukraine. And no jumps and screams will not help not to see the obvious.
    And then even worse (for the State Department): the people, having seen the obvious, will choose the pro-Russian course and expel the pro-American juntas with all the consequences.
    This is briefly. I hope everyone here knows that the transfer of Crimea to the Americans was agreed with Petunia and Turchinov and scheduled for 2014? Therefore, it is impossible to compare the Donbass and the Crimea! It's like comparing sausage with an orange: completely different things!

    overslept? with a referendum?
    1. Bramb
      Bramb April 15 2016 20: 41
      0
      You’ll be going when you get a little mind and learn to read.
      Do not comment on my posts from now on. And then you spit up.
  29. cte-power
    cte-power April 15 2016 18: 39
    -8
    Rotten Article
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  30. tracer
    tracer April 15 2016 23: 29
    0
    They are brainwashed very powerfully. On the radio, all channels are overwhelmed by everything. And advertising "elite" pawnshops and booze. The war is there for all to one place. If only they did not touch. In a massive outburst of stoned Natsiks, the small-town establishment is beating in sweet hysteria in anticipation of "nyashek" from at least someone. To contempt there is not something that far .. No way.
  31. Kombrig
    Kombrig April 16 2016 01: 56
    +4
    We Russians are very lucky that a journalist of such a level as Shariy chose to expose Ukrainian fakes as his goal, for some reason it seems to me that if a blogger of a similar level appears that exposes our media, he will become an enemy of most Russians, even if he writes the truth .. . Unfortunately...
    And about provocative questions ... maybe claims should be made against the organizers of this event, who could not convey to the "crowd" the purpose of the action itself, or to students who did not even ask where they were being taken instead of studying?
    1. Undermined ustoev
      Undermined ustoev April 16 2016 23: 23
      +1
      Quote: Kombrig
      We Russians are very lucky that a journalist of such a level as Shariy chose to expose Ukrainian fakes as his goal, for some reason it seems to me that if a blogger of a similar level appears that exposes our media, he will become an enemy of most Russians, even if he writes the truth .. . Unfortunately...

      Shariy quite successfully draws attention to himself with such revelations. But there is no accusation of outright fascism from his lips to the Ukrainian authorities, which is strange, provided that it is not known that Shariy is a typical chauvinist when it comes to, for example, the annexation of Crimea to Russia and him, that is Crimea, Ukrainization. Then Anatoly blows with Vlad in one dudu.
  32. Undermined ustoev
    Undermined ustoev April 16 2016 23: 10
    +1
    Quote: Nikolai K
    And then live on what?

    You probably know that the same YouTube pays very well for advertising. The more page views, the more Shariy earns. That is, you can get money not for selling someone else's opinion, but for telling your own opinion, if it is interesting to other people. And many people are already tired of the propaganda husk, they want to hear an independent opinion. This is such a "paradoxical" situation when you can make money by speaking the TRUTH.

    What kind of kindergarten? What relationship can there be between opinion and truth? There are many opinions, but the truth, that is, the truth is always the same.
  33. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 April 17 2016 01: 20
    0
    There is another point of view! Read Military Commissar Denis Grigoryuk.

    "So what did the Republic do? After the emotions have subsided a little, I want to touch on the topic that I preferred to bypass. A week ago, there were massive celebrations of the second anniversary of the proclamation of the Donetsk People's Republic. But it was not this event that caused a storm of emotions and indignation on the network, but Anatoly Shariy's video "Let the holiday begin", which divided his fans from Donbass into haters and defenders.

    The problem of those who are disappointed in Anatolia is that people are used to unnecessarily idealizing their idols. Those who watched the media expert’s videos daily mistakenly believed that the enemy of my enemy was my friend. Up to a certain point, it was until people remembered that Anatoly was always a supporter of a united Ukraine and, in this case, only remained true to his ideological convictions. People tend to attribute to their idols those traits of character that they would like to see in them. The disappointment appeared to be in his own beliefs about Sharia. So I think that the problem is more likely in people than in Anatolia itself.

    That's not what I wanted to talk about. And rather answer the unfortunate questions "What are you celebrating?" and "What did the Republic do?" .....http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_98770
  34. lazy
    lazy April 17 2016 09: 19
    0
    when now young people do not know what November 7 is, you can understand almost a hundred years have passed, when in 2 years of existence of the republic they do not know what day it is, these are not problems of Sharia but of the republic. and the thesis "I found someone to ask the same children." Neither are there children (and even somewhere "they are children" have already heard ", Gaidar at the age of 16 commanded a regiment in a civilian and knew for the Reds or for the youth is apolitical in the warring republic, then such a republic has no future and Shariy has nothing to do with it
  35. Kvadrofon
    Kvadrofon April 17 2016 19: 26
    0
    I already somehow unsubscribed in the topic about these underdeveloped republics. I got it. I have a clear understanding that in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, as we have in the Crimea and Sevastopol, for a very long time we will not be able to completely expel Ukrainians. I fully agree with the author and Shariy. And the flood of cheers-patriots on this resource, who are dreaming about the accession of these stillborn republics, makes us rethink all the topics published here ...