Vietnamese shipyard launched 2 missile boats built under Russian license

The Vietnamese shipbuilding enterprise "Bashon" launched the 2 missile boats of the 1241.8 ("Lightning") project, built under a Russian license, reports MIC with reference to tass.

Rocket Boat "Lightning" project 12418

According to the agency, "at the ceremony held in the southern Vietnamese city of Ho Chi Minh City, were attended by Deputy Minister of National Defense of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (SRV) Chyong Quang Khan, Secretary of the City Committee of the ruling Communist Party Dinh La Thang and Russian Consul General in Ho Chi Minh City Alexei Popov.

“The transfer of the Navy boats“ Lightning ”will be an important step in the process of modernizing the forces of the Vietnamese military fleetwho are entrusted with the reliable protection of the islands and the sovereignty of the country at sea, ”said the Deputy Minister of Defense.

“Creating the boats“ Molniya ”, the team of the General Shipbuilding Company“ Bashon ”makes an important contribution to the cause of protecting the maritime frontier lines,” he added.

Help "MIC": “The contract for the construction of boats was concluded at 2003. According to its conditions, two boats designed by the Almaz Central Maritime Design Bureau should be built in the Russian Federation and from 6 to Lightning 10 equipped with the Uranium missile system -E ", under the Russian license - in Vietnam. The first boat was handed over to the customer in 2007 g, and the second - in 2008. In 2010, with the laying of the first boat at the Bashon shipyard, the licensed part of the contract was launched. To date, four Lightning have been built in Vietnam. ”

Comments

[HERMES]

Well, and until when will we give out licenses to everyone? Almost all possible profits go by.

[cniza]

Quote: HERMES

Well, and until when will we give out licenses to everyone? Almost all possible profits go by.

While it will be profitable, but it is profitable.

[Observer2014]

"Vietnamese shipyard launched 2 missile boats built under Russian license"
Yes, I already understand that the Vietnamese Navy will be stronger than Ukrainian boats thanks to these two boats.

[HERMES]

Taking into account the fact that the "far-sighted" Ukrainians sawed most of their fleet that they inherited from the USSR, and sold the rest to the Chinese for a pittance ... aircraft carriers ... cruisers ... here are clubs.

[donavi49]

The Vietas have a good fleet, if we shrink to the region between China and India, then they will only lose to the Indonesians.

The submarine fleet was updated by 100% - 6 DEPL 636 project (contract delivery time 2014-2016 years), the last two are transferred this year

The core of the fleet includes 2 SKR (Frigate) - Cheetah 3.9. They were finalized for Vietnam, there was a platform for basing the helicopter aft, the X-35 strike complex. Two more are under construction in Zelenodolsk, according to an even improved project.

The core of the fleet is complemented by new Lightning with X-35.

In service, the HQ-381 is a rather interesting ship of the 12412 Ave., which was modified by the Vietnamese in the BPS-500 project. This is interesting because the Lightning corps in the PSKR / MPK version was converted back into a missile ship, but at the same time, leaving the functions of the PSKR. Armed with 8 X-35, 76 mm gun and MZA.

They have problems with the IPC right now - in fact, only Heparts can perform these functions and the ancient ships of the 159 project. Unlike Algeria, the Vieta finish them off and are going to change them.

There are also 6 new Fireflies for the Coast Guard. To 20 old boats with P-15M or art-torpedo armament. The new HQ-888 is a reconnaissance ship.

In general, they now have the best submarine fleet in the region, if India and China are left out of the picture. The surface fleet currently has a problem with the PLO component, but this is being solved by new orders, and the ships practically have no air defense. Cheetahs already delivered are actually only MZA Palma + AK-630M, Lightning AK-630M + AK-176. There is nothing more serious than MANPADS from air defense. On the one hand, this is trouble, trouble, on the other, the doctrine presupposes actions in its water area, under the umbrella of the country's air defense and air force.

[HERMES]

Yeah ... for the cons, you are generous ...

Quote: cniza

Quote: HERMES

Well, and until when will we give out licenses to everyone? Almost all possible profits go by.

While it will be profitable, but it is profitable.

When will they sell a batch of Su-35 of the PRC ... also tell me profitably? After five to seven years, the Chinese will stamp hundreds of copies, which in quality will be very slightly inferior to the original - but they will cost half the price ... and they will be bought from Chinese, not ours.

Tell me that our economy does not allow ourselves to build such an amount of equipment and sell for the full amount that will go completely to the treasury of the State?

Deal with parasites and embezzlers at the top - the economy will take off to the horror of the entire "rotting" West ...

[Winnie76]

Quote: HERMES

When the batch of Su-35 of the PRC will be sold ... tell me also profitable?

Of course it’s profitable. All that could be copied, the Chinese copied on the Su 30. Avionics, radar, engines - copying is completely unrealistic. And this position is flawed. Constantly in the role of catching up. Instead of scientists and engineers - copy pasteurists. From what China really has come to mind, only shipbuilding and MLRS come to mind.

[HERMES]

Quote: Winnie76

Quote: HERMES

When the batch of Su-35 of the PRC will be sold ... tell me also profitable?

Of course it’s profitable. All that could be copied, the Chinese copied on the Su 30. Avionics, radar, engines - copying is completely unrealistic. And this position is flawed. Constantly in the role of catching up. Instead of scientists and engineers - copy pasteurists. From what China really has come to mind, only shipbuilding and MLRS come to mind.

Comrade ... you underestimate the Chinese ... the time of cheap consumer goods has passed. In terms of design, the Chinese will soon be a very serious competitor to the whole world, including Russia and the United States. Their goal is to take everything that is possible from Russia. to reach the level that they are practically remote. And then unpleasant surprises for Russia and the USA will follow. I believe that China will be in the near future as powerful as the USSR was at one time. The most serious threat from the East is hanging over Russia since the time of Genghis Khan. Enough to beat the buck! We must prepare!

[Michael67]

The contract needs to be changed.
1 RTOs are building for themselves - 1 to us!
If you can’t control it yourself.

[K-50]

Quote: Michael67

The contract needs to be changed.
1 RTOs are building for themselves - 1 to us!
If you can’t control it yourself.

They are already morally outdated, "Buyans" will be more powerful.

[Roman 11]

Similarly, the AK-630 is annoying, it's time for something new, it's high time.

[ICT]

Quote: Novel 11

AK-630 annoying, it's time for something new,

let's at least formulate TTZ, AT MY DELITANIAN VIEW THEY perform their functions even excluding the air defense

[zadorin1974]

At home, two canned foods (export) for conversion were removed for the Black Sea Fleet and the Caspian

[siberalt]

Unlike China, the Vietnamese remember our invaluable help in the fight against American imperialism, and are proud to call us brothers.

[mav1971]

Quote: siberalt

Unlike China, the Vietnamese remember our invaluable help in the fight against American imperialism, and are proud to call us brothers.

Well, yes .. how ...
Only now you probably don’t know that Vietnam was one of the first to jump into the Trans-Pacific Partnership ...
I advise you to read this program ...

[NordUral]

Have you ever wondered why? What can "our" thief-oligarchs and the state they have robbed offer them for equal cooperation? And so at least the remnants of the Soviet legacy are working for our countries.

[just exp]

plus, but for the sake of justice it is worth noting that they jumped there more because their China could squeeze them hard if something happened, and the USSR, which could harness oneself for it, is no longer there.

[HERMES]

Brothers ... how come. Brothers we are for those Vietnamese who are already over 70 ....

[VP]

Have you been to Vietnam for the last time?
Or "your bullshit Caruso, Moisha sang it to me yesterday on the phone"?
The attitude of the Vietnamese towards us is still warm, better than towards any other foreigners.

[svp67]

Quote: HERMES

Almost all possible profits go by.

What profit has passed by?
Assembled using the technology of "screwdriver assembly", the ship brought quite a large profit from our components, since the components were manufactured by us, our specialists, who were paid by Vietnam, watched the assembly, paid for the license, and our shipyards, already busy enough, were not distracted to fulfill this order.

[mav1971]

Quote: HERMES

Well, and until when will we give out licenses to everyone? Almost all possible profits go by.

Quote: Pvi1206

Better to sell finished products, rather than technology.
But "effective managers" do not care, just to sell something ...

what a short comment ...

Do you not understand that the terms of such contracts are initially set in such a way as to raise your own industry?
And the conditions for the construction of part of the ships purchased under the contract in a series at their own shipyards - is almost mandatory practice?

I do not agree with the terms of the contract, refuse to provide additional recruitment - go overboard ...
there will be no contract with you.
And let your workers herring ...
Everything. Everyone who participates at least with a bolt, even with a posting. microcircuit. or a turbine blade.

And they will go to Italy, Japan, Australia, Sweden with Germany ... Indonesia to the extreme.
and there will agree.
They know how to do it in cooperation.
The local missiles will receive an order for missiles. engine drivers - for turbines, electronic engineers - for control systems.
They will have money.
And we have a herring. with a sweetheart.

Therefore, we must sell everything.
If possible.
Yes, it is precisely the ships that will not receive money for the work.
But then they will receive it - workers of KRET, workers of missile enterprises, engine builders.

[Homo]

Quote: HERMES

Well, and until when will we give out licenses to everyone? Almost all possible profits go by.

Baby, how old are you? License is not a gift. It costs money and considerable. Moreover, the license stipulates the amount that can be built.

[bistrov.]

Quote: HERMES

Well, and until when will we give out licenses to everyone?

The license provides for the purchase and payment. Otherwise, what do you think about making money? On the sale of raw materials? So and so already almost all dug up and cut down ...

[weksha50]

Well done, both our shipbuilders and the Vietnamese ...

[Panikovsky]

moreover, two unfinished buildings at Vympel will be finished, and with modern equipment and 16 uraniums each will go to the Black Sea Fleet.

[avt]

Quote: Panikovsky

moreover, two unfinished buildings at Vympel will be finished, and with modern equipment and 16 uraniums each will go to the Black Sea Fleet.

It’s strange that the Vietnamese did not outbid this order. But they were originally laid for export. Again, the Pharaoh's children sniffed and did not take it either. But in vain, it would really come in handy, well, they run to the Black Sea with us.

[Roman 11]

Quote: Panikovsky

and with modern equipment and 16 uranium, each will go to the Black Sea Fleet.

It’s different, but not far from Egypt

[Pvi1206]

Better to sell finished products, rather than technology.
But "effective managers" do not care, just to sell something ...

[Sally]

Do you know all the details of a contract and contractors?
And why build "outdated" ships when capacities need to be reoriented to new types and technologies.
(minus not mine)

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Pvi1206

Better to sell finished products, rather than technology.
But "effective managers" do not care, just to sell something ...

Our factories are now loaded with corvette production, if ships were also built for Vietnam, then there would again be delays in deliveries to Russia.

[Pvi1206]

In addition to Russia, few sell military licenses. In addition to the benefits, there are other reasons, apparently.

[alexmach]

Better to sell finished products, rather than technology.

Better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick.

[Anglorussian]

Building technology even Mozambique owns. All the filling and weapons were produced in Russia.

[andrewkor]

A handsome devil !!!

[svp67]

Quote: andrewkor

A handsome devil !!!

Not without this, but such a ship will be even more beautiful

[prosto_rgb]

such - YES
and what a project?

[alexmach]

yes he is the most 22350

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: alexmach

yes he is the most 22350

merci

[Signaller]

I will not be surprised that if this happens, then Russia will soon start riveting boats. Well, like We helped you, so help us now. The division of labor-globalization in the SCO camp. Well, that's fine. Only all again step on the same rake. And if that ????? So we live, we help to revive, and ourselves ????? Let’s figure it out .....- I’m personally tired of it. I need to revive my own and help my own.

[Michael67]

So I said the same thing:
"The contract needs to be changed.
1 RTOs are building for themselves - 1 to us!
If you can't manage it yourself. "
Just watch a lot of dissent.

[From Samara]

The Air Force and Navy seriously increased muscle. And the ground forces?

[Verdun]

To date, the power of the Russian fleet is less than the fiftieth of the power of the USSR fleet at the time of its collapse. How sad it is not to realize.

[alex80]

Quote: donavi49

The core of the fleet includes 2 SKR (Frigate) - Cheetah 3.9. They were finalized for Vietnam, there was a platform for basing the helicopter aft, the X-35 strike complex. Two more are under construction in Zelenodolsk, according to an even improved project.

The surface fleet at the moment has a problem with the PLO component, but this is being solved by new orders, and the ships practically have no air defense.

Two new Cheetahs ordered in Zelenodolsk will have the specialization of PLO.

[Verdun]

And the hell was leaving Kamrani ?!

[Demeter]

Such missile boats are also needed for the Russian fleet. Each boat has 16 Uranium anti-ship missiles.

[igor.borov775]

Quote: Demeter

Such missile boats are also needed for the Russian fleet. Each boat has 16 Uranium anti-ship missiles.

Hi !! I didn’t even know that they treat our military-industrial complex so badly, and more precisely, to shipbuilding. Why do we need them if they were removed from production. For another pennant. There were so many pennants, and the devil’s leg systems would break. For a long time it was necessary to solve this problem. Now it is much better. . Weapon systems are not so many. I hope the number of ship series will be quite worthy. In today it’s impossible to drag everything that was much has already lost the value that was needed. A better task is being solved now. The modular weapon and control system. The range check has passed; now they are working to eliminate the shortcomings and
Revealed shortcomings. The only thing that upsets too much time has passed before the appearance of a worthy change of Petrels. And then I'm afraid to make a guess.

[Demeter]

Before you tell me the nonsense and advertising nonsense of stupid officials, read as more sources about what kind of permanent armament would be carried by would-be self-tope of the Bull type and how long it takes to install normal weapons on them. Moreover, to install weapons on them, it will be necessary to dismantle part of the fuel tanks. In this regard, the question - Who will do this and when, in the event of the outbreak of hostilities? What will the enemy wait until all the Chirkovs, who plundered the Pacific Fleet at one time, will put the ship for rearmament for a year?

[igorka357]

Not only everything can ... in the sense of tomorrow! The manner of presentation in you, as in the vitalik, is the very nickname, first and last name with a small letter!

[Sergey333]

Let them build, all the same, our rockets and their filling.

[avg-mgn]

Quote: Homo

Moreover, the license stipulates the amount that can be built.

Selling licenses all over the world has always brought great profits, but as a result of the presence of holes in license agreements and patent law, the world market has been littered with fakes of Russian weapons (take, for example, AK). If only assembly and operation are licensed, this is one thing, and the complete transfer of technologies to production (even to the best friend for today), even for extremely serious money, is not good.

[triglav]

That's right! And then we lose all our comrades.