So, are we supposed to play for America now?

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In principle, we are accustomed to, when you write about one thing, and discuss something completely different. For example, an article about the presence of obvious enemies within the state, and the comments in half consist of a discussion of whether the RONA participants were complete traitors to the Soviet people, or incomplete. We got used to it. Your prayers, more precisely, opinions, dear commenting.



But a number of comments on the article How much is our humanism, or who will pay the Ukrainian bill? made me think very much and continue the topic.

Generally, in short, we wrote that in the West, to put it mildly, we are disappointed with the results of the "digestion of hydration" and now they are just waiting for a reason to drain. And, of course, they simply dream of Russia taking part in the restoration of Ukraine.

Did we really say something new? Where, in fact, such a reaction? Is there somewhere flashed information that the Russian authorities will go for it? So why are some so excited?

I will not vote for helping Ukraine build a state.

And I have no desire to feed them, it is better to restore Syria.

I think that this time you shouldn’t show a heartbeat.

This banderostan after the war has already been restored. Sorry for the money and the strength of the people who worked there. It would be better to develop the central regions of the country.

It turns out that at our expense spat into our souls, and we have to pay for this “service”! And the mug will not crack?


Specially do not specify the authors. The point, as usual, is not that.

Let's just look back a little. Very little. We can look at the last day, right?

Dear readers! Remember how much we were persuaded and begged not to interfere? And who.

The faces are the same. Perpetual our "partners": the United States, the European Union, NATO. And what are they hammering for more than 20 years? Russia, do not interfere, do not go anywhere, we all ruined and settled.

Do not go to Transnistria, do not go to South Ossetia and Abkhazia, do not go to Syria, do not go to Ukraine!

Deal with internal problems, we will organize them for you now.

Here's the list of sanctions, black lists of politicians, exclusion from participation in international organizations, freezing of assets, boycott of goods. Few? Ok, we'll throw some more.

Here you have the information war with the participation of the fifth column inside Russia itself. Plus a colossal press of the information struggle in newspapers and on television, in films and on the Internet, on the radio and just at meetings of a wide variety of protests against the Kremlin.

Sign in the receipt, as they say.

And the result is obvious. Here it is, in the statements of the Russians. I have given some rather neutral remarks, but what about dozens and hundreds of comments, where phrases about “the nation of traitors and cowards”, “hataskrayniki” and so on sound.

I agree that this applies to many residents of Ukraine quite rightly. But definitely not to all.

And who speaks today with us "Russia, do not interfere"? Forced patriots? Who wants the Ukrainians themselves to understand their home?

Why have we supported Donbass for two years?

And for what our best of the best, as practice has shown, are dying in Syria? What heroically killed Alexander Prokhorenko?

The Syrians did not particularly go to rallies against the Islamic State terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation. And also rushed away from the war. Many thousands. Did they chicken out? Are they traitors and hastaskrayniki? However, Russia is fighting for them.

My dear, this is what we are with the proletholes of Ukraine in due time. We. We did not interfere. And calmly watched as under the American banjo, with American money, they raise new Bandera. And now, very close to our border, the Donbass SS battalion (sichevykh archers) is quietly standing. And, by the way, the mobplan in the south-east of Ukraine was made in 2015 by 100%.

So we still have to rake this mess. Russia. This is our land and there, under the fascist occupation, our people. Including, by the way, pensioners, who are often against their will, were in another country, and the children of those who oppose the junta in the Donbas today. They certainly deserve release. They are Russians.

I am not a supporter of the nomination plan tank divisions to Kiev. To Kharkov - yes, I agree, it is necessary. This is our city, and Kharkiv residents in February-March 2014 proved it. But why tanks, if everything goes where it should be? Sooner or later, the junta will abandon this failed project and flee to devour the stolen to warmer places. I am sure that it will be so.

And then that moment will come, which our readers said. I will quote now personally.

Berber

And about Ukraine, I want to say that medical fasting will probably benefit. In the end, if zapadenschina is a disease, then you need to get sick.

Orionvit

Of course, everything is correct. But some have forgotten that Ukraine has always been a part of Russia. In western Ukraine, under Poland, let them better remember the US blacks.

Altona

No one needs to be fed, this money from the IMF is stolen by the top, and, as it is subtly noted, there are few ethnic Ukrainians there. But in Ukraine, it seems to me, on the contrary, many people are very loyal to us. I correspond with different people, even hardened Ukrainians, Lyashko’s supporters, but some began to consider themselves Russians, and young people from Kherson, Kiev, Zaporozhye. Some even in the classroom on philosophy began to argue that Ukraine is a silly nonsense, which is surprising. When the teacher talks about the "Russian-Ukrainian" war. Somehow sorry for them and the country. In general, Ukraine is not a separate ethnos, there all our haploids are in chromosomes.

VeterS

Oh god What is happening now in the minds of simple Ukrainians. How much malice and confusion. By the way, bestial hatred for us, "mos * ka * lam" from these simple losers, Europeans, is directly proportional to the fall in their standard of living. And here, as they didn’t fall into Ukrainian, or rather hochlyatsky officialdom, no propaganda can bring the degree of hatred to its present state. They sincerely, sincerely believe that Russia is OBLIGED !!! Russia is simply OBLIGED because she is guilty before them! Think about it, we, ordinary citizens of Russia, are guilty of their current voyage in their own shit!
So the author is right, ETA Ukraine must die. To die in such a way that the horror at the genetic level of the memory of the death of the state of Ukraine would remain in the memory of descendants until the seventh knee, that the hair on the head would move! And there, as one wise man said: - "... we will see"!


Here, with the author of the last comment, I do not just agree, but I consider his thought to be the lodestar to the future.

That Ukraine, which exists today, must die. It is her duty to the Russians, whom today's Ukrainian fascists accuse of all mortal sins. As the old Russian proverb says, it will grind - there will be flour.

And then, when it comes to the majority of Ukrainians that the Russian is not an enemy at least, then it will be possible to make some plans for the future. When it comes to the point that the junta simply cannot continue to govern the country, then it will be possible to talk about these plans.

But when all these Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, Groismans and other jarescans become Ukrainian historywhen the power of the United States will be replaced by the power that the Ukrainian people will choose in opposition to the former, then you can start doing something.

This is a long process. Tanks, it is, of course, faster. But not the fact that more effective.

And our task is precisely to stop seeing traitors, Judas, Khataskraynik and others in the inhabitants of Ukraine. A neighbor will not become a good neighbor and brother when, on the one hand, they throw mud at it, and on the other hand they whisper softly in their ears that the Russians are enemies.

The United States, with its 20 years, did this, and we assisted them in this. Without interfering. On distance. And here is the result.

So, getting into Ukrainian affairs is not something that God himself commanded, debt tells us. The duty to those who plentifully watered this land, freeing it from evil, very similar to the one that sits today in the power of Ukraine. It is necessary.

And to show and prove that the Ukrainian is not a nation. This is the place to stay. At the edge of Russia. And damn they are not Europeans, they are the same as we are. Just, let's say, some are unwell in the mass. Help cure - why not?

And you can restore the ruined. But - together. And in a completely different Ukraine. Ukraine, which I hope will be.

And for America with her "do not interfere" play is definitely not worth it. No one has won in such games, except America itself. I know for sure.
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  1. +84
    April 15 2016 06: 17

    Berber
    And about Ukraine I want to say that therapeutic fasting will probably benefit. In the end, if zapadenschina is a disease, then you need to get sick.
    I personally, am tormented by vague doubts that Ukraine will get sick, I remember (due to my age) both the 70s and 80s in especially Western Ukraine, there was no love for us, Bendera were already then, but why "already" ... have always been there! And unfortunately, apparently there will always be. So, I do not believe in the "recovery" of this nation.
    1. +17
      April 15 2016 06: 31
      I would probably not put the label “hopeless” on the whole nation. There are a lot of sane people, especially in the central and eastern regions of Ukraine, including in Transcarpathia. Here either (decades) recovery will take place, or antagonistic sentiments will intensify and lead to the further collapse of this state.
      1. +50
        April 15 2016 07: 02
        Quote: Siberian
        I would probably not put the label “hopeless” on the whole nation.

        Someone really believes that Ukraine will get sick, or even more so "Die" (except for the author) ?!
        I would rather believe in the voluntary and peaceful unification of Korea than in the voluntary and peaceful unification of Russia. Or rather, I believe in the death of one of the Koreas ...

        No voluntary association is simply possible in principle, and the point is not only that between brothers there is blood and hatred. This is impossible only because they will not be allowed to unite voluntarily and peacefully.

        Unification can only be through forceful capture. Annexation. So, although I do not want to hang the label "hopeless", but this is reality. The author fell out of reality.

        Yes, Ukraine and the Russian people living on it are our land and our people, and it’s worth fighting for and recovering, but it’s enough to pull yourself too (and have our problems gone somewhere, aren’t going to go too far?), And after yourself - the time will come for land unification. And in order for Russia to be voluntarily pulled, you need to become an attractive and serious center of power! Firstly.
        1. +3
          April 15 2016 09: 41
          Dear Insular, in my comment I did not say the word unification as a state legally formed form of coexistence of fraternal peoples. We are talking about spiritual kinship about common spiritual and cultural values ​​that still live in millions of Ukrainians and make us one people. And while this thread connects us, there remains the opportunity to remain fraternal people.
          I emphasize once again that their own intrastate, intrahuman contradictions will lead to even more dramatic results.
          1. +5
            April 15 2016 09: 44
            Quote: Siberian
            We are talking about spiritual kinship about common spiritual and cultural values ​​that still live in millions of Ukrainians and make us one people.

            Was it such a thing to you from childhood, or did you draw such a conclusion yourself on the basis of your own observations?
            I'm serious. Without an answer to this question, I don’t see the point of either answering or discussing this topic.
            1. +1
              April 15 2016 09: 55
              First, since childhood, each of us has endured what his parents and his school later lay to him, and secondly, each of us and I hope you also draw conclusions based on the information that you own based on your own life experience. smile
              1. +24
                April 15 2016 10: 00
                Let you leave this mentoring tone to your children "first, secondly".
                If you are not aimed at dialogue, but are going to read moral instruction, you are not interesting to me, from the word at all. hi Available?

                As for Ukraine, according to my observations, it is initially hostile to everything Russian and there is no talk of any kind of mental connection. Quite the opposite.

                As for the Ukrainians - the people living in Ukraine, they were the same Russians as other Russians. So this is not a fraternal people, but one people. By the will of the rulers, singled out in a separate republic, and then completely independent.

                As for the lands, 2/3 of them were annexed by the Russian rulers, so this is the Russian land rightfully. Even considering that Ukraine is some kind of separate people with its own separate homeland.
                1. -5
                  April 15 2016 10: 03
                  And in general there is nothing to discuss, so everything is clear. hi
                  1. +2
                    April 15 2016 10: 09
                    It is difficult to discuss with a person who did not give a single argument smile In addition to some template phrases.
                    1. +1
                      April 15 2016 11: 11
                      This is what a fright you dreamed that Ukrainians are hostile to all Russian. It sounds so stupid that I'm not even going to comment.
                      Now, about nationality, it is determined not only by the place of origin (territory), but by culture, customs, traditions, spiritual values ​​that are still with mother’s milk and formed by adulthood and secured due to close communication with people around you from your ethnic group.
                      Of course, once it was one people who related themselves to the Russians, but thanks to the occupation of lands by foreigners and non-believers, assimilation took place with newcomers, where their own religion and customs were forcibly imposed. And this went on for centuries. As a result, a community has formed that has some differences in the cultural sphere, traditions, and even (as it is not sad) in religion - Ukrainians.

                      As for the territorial formation of Ukraine as a state within its current borders, there is nothing to argue about (gifts from imperial and Soviet Russia) is a fact.
                      So what is the meaning of your comments - should it be forcibly taken away?
                    2. -4
                      April 15 2016 16: 08
                      I am Ukrainian, the graves of my ancestors in the sixth tribe are nearby and I know and do not forget them. And I was born on the Ros River. And in all my life I have no doubt where I live - the cradle of Slovenism. There are enough fascists everywhere, including RF.And what are we sick of? Let us decide for yourself. Take a closer look at your home, about your problems. And how much dirt and hatred that I read about my people here, these guys are not a normal thing. All the arguments are from a zombie guy. I like TV for a long time I don’t look. There is no ban in our network, but the truth is always in the middle, history teaches one, sooner or later, but the TRUTH triumphs
                      1. Erg
                        +17
                        April 16 2016 07: 33
                        Grandfather Stepan. And when you, that is, the Ukrainians, the cradle of Slavism, hammer out howitzers in kindergartens and schools in Donbass ... in what "middle" is truth here? And about "let us decide for ourselves" sounds ridiculous, because you sold your solver overseas. And together with her and myself ...
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                      3. +18
                        April 16 2016 07: 54
                        And what are we sick of? Let us decide for yourself. Take a closer look at your home, about your problems.
                        Yes, you have not already decided for these 25 years .... now it will take another 25 years to clear it all out. When I was studying in the city of Lvov (89-92), every weekend near the opera house, veterans of the SS Galicia division marched, and apologists of extreme Russophobia spoke from the stands ---- Goryn, Khmara, Chernovil ... the list goes on, and such as You said that even though we know how to live, we have the right to our history, Konovalets, Melnik and Bendera are our everything.
                        And how much dirt and hatred that I read about my people here
                        but about dirt and hate ...... so read its press look its television, plunge into the stench of news ukrosaytov .... not you talk about hatred and filth.
                        PS .... and no Your people, stop carrying this Polish-Austrian nonsense .... there is a single people that they have been trying to divide for 200 years.
                      4. +1
                        April 16 2016 20: 45
                        Yes, it is not necessary not "FOR" or "AGAINST".
                        No one except the Ukrainians themselves will build their country.
                        In the meantime, they will wait for someone to do everything for them - they will be trinkets.
                        Beats will not be rich - this is an axiom.
                        While thieves in power are not transplanted, they will not be rich - this is also an axiom.

                        They will plant thieves and start working - and they will be happy. There are investors right there, that the West, that we have, that the East. Everyone has. Places there are fertile. What for agriculture, what for industry, what for science. Paradise can be built. But not with demons.
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                      6. +5
                        April 17 2016 07: 16
                        You don’t have a ban in the network, say ____, but for some reason they banyat and delete us all * COLORADIAN OCCUPIERS * for you ... Yes, and where is your so-called statehood under the rule of ... And you with 25 million true Russian names 40ka maybe more yes I myself am three-quarters Ukrainian. My great-grandfather spoke not of stones but of piles and was from the western outskirts. And he said at the time if it weren’t for Siberia we would have been cut out there ... I went there in the 60s, many don’t speak after the Bandera massacre. And my name is by the way SHUTYUK (in your opinion purely Ukrainian), but I am a Siberian and a citizen of RUSSIA and I am proud of it !!!!! And after the son last May was born BOGDAN !!!!
                      7. 0
                        April 17 2016 08: 37
                        I would like to add that I consider myself not only from Siberia to that land and where my great-grandfathers and great-grandmothers from the outskirts of the Russian Empire came from ... By the way, you lived a lot easier and easier with the Union than we did in Siberia.
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                2. +6
                  April 15 2016 11: 41
                  As for Ukraine, according to my observations, it is initially hostile to everything Russian and there is no talk of any kind of mental connection. Quite the opposite.


                  You didn’t get it wrong? You can’t say this for the whole of Ukraine, everyone knows the whole Southeast (Novorossiya) was Russian until the Communists transferred these territories of Ukraine, what kind of initial hostile to all Russian are you talking about? This part of Ukraine at the genetic level is Russian. It ("it is initially hostile to everything Russian") can be said for the rest of Ukraine, but not in the South-East of Ukraine. I have many friends living in Odessa, Kharkov, in the Kherson region, and in these territories do not consider Russian enemies, so this part of Ukraine is still being saved and I'm sure that this part of Ukraine will either be some kind of independent formation or join to Russia.
                3. +3
                  April 16 2016 11: 52
                  ETA Ukraine must die. To die so that descendants to the seventh generation would have horror at the genetic level from the memories of the death of the state of Ukraine, so that the hair on your head would move! -------------------------------------------------- --- I completely agree ! Ukraine must die-that Russia would be reborn!
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          3. +7
            April 15 2016 18: 59
            So what now to do, as Putin said, if a person wants to drown, saving is useless!
          4. +2
            April 17 2016 14: 30
            Quote: Siberian
            We are talking about spiritual kinship about common spiritual and cultural values ​​that still live in millions of Ukrainians and make us one people.

            You have some kind of split personality. Decide. It is still one people or 2 in your "brotherly people" and if one, then what is it called.
            And then everything will become clear:
            - if one and is called Russian, it means Ukraine (the state) occupied the lands on which Russians live. And you just need to free them, not annex them, but release them, because you cannot annex your own lands.

            - if two, then it is not necessary to meddle in the affairs of other peoples, as the Americans do, they will ask to see, but first let them ask and do not need about "brotherhood" - all people are brothers Cain and Abel were also brothers.

            - if one, but it’s not Russianthen you are just a representative of proto-blood
            propagandists
            something like that, just decide and everything will become clear
        2. -14
          April 15 2016 10: 58
          Quote: insular
          I would rather believe in the voluntary and peaceful unification of Korea

          And this is most likely inevitable and will happen when in North Korea there will finally be nothing to eat, including the top, then North Korea itself will run to ask to visit the South.
          Because it is useless to try to go against the evolutionary vector of human development - closed and authoritarian societies in the modern world are uncompetitive.
          Quote: insular
          No voluntary association is possible at all

          Nonsense!
          It is enough not to forget that many of those who think that they are Russian are actually not Russian at all.
          And everything is simple: in the Republic of Ingushetia there was no concept of "nationality", religion and, less often, the native language were recorded.
          And already the Bolsheviks, without hesitation, all the Orthodox in the territory of the RSFSR were recorded as Russians, and the Ugro-Finnish haplogroup N1c, an example of which in some areas reaches 30% of the total population, is an example of this.
          Therefore, we can say with almost 100% certainty that we "Russians" were united by Orthodoxy!
          Quote: insular
          And in order for Russia to be voluntarily pulled, you need to become an attractive and serious center of power!

          This is happening now, when polite but the strong foreign policy of Putin, civilized countries have finally stopped seeing Russia as a "red bear with a Kuzkina mother."
          1. +2
            April 15 2016 11: 37
            Quote: Voima-liitto
            Because it is futile to try to go against the evolutionary vector human development - closed and authoritarian societies in the modern world are uncompetitive.

            This is a debatable question of who is evolving and who is degrading, who is being strangled or who is being fed, who is more enduring a wild plant (animal) or domestic. So it is with man, evolution is not in the amount of dough, in gadgets and jamon, but in the heads of people and their real values, in which nothing burdens the soul of a person and does not bother, while the man himself is simply happy that sincerely smiling next to him , healthy members of his family, friends and just strangers.
            1. -2
              April 15 2016 12: 24
              Quote: Victor-M
              So it is with man, evolution is not in the amount of dough, in gadgets and jamon, but in the heads of people and their real values, in which nothing burdens the soul of a person and does not burden, while the person himself is simply happy,

              The more modern and development society is, the better it is for a person to live in it. POINT.
              1. +2
                April 15 2016 13: 23
                That is, the camera from the shock, checking for hemorrhoids - is our future?
                It is right! Everyone will comply with any laws and regulations! And paradise will come!
          2. 0
            April 15 2016 14: 47
            Quote: Voima-liitto
            And already the Bolsheviks, without hesitation, all the Orthodox in the territory of the RSFSR were recorded as Russians, and the Ugro-Finnish haplogroup N1c, an example of which in some areas reaches 30% of the total population, is an example of this.

            Yakuts have 1% N1c90 - it turns out that they are the most "correct" Finno-Ugric people?
          3. +4
            April 16 2016 08: 32
            and an example of this is the same Finno-Finnish haplogroup N1c, whose share in some areas reaches 30%
            My dear,Russianit is a state of mind, and not the size and shape of the skull, and not the genotype ,,,,
        3. +3
          April 15 2016 13: 52
          Quote: insular
          I would rather believe in the voluntary and peaceful unification of Korea than in the voluntary and peaceful unification of Russia

          It also seems to me that the gap between Russia and Ukraine will be long. Donbass is 50 years old. In order to believe in the unification, it is necessary that Putin emerges in Ukraine, penetrates unnoticed and takes power and opens like a flower. While there are none, more grossans, lyashko, some kind of horror.
        4. Fat
          +1
          April 16 2016 05: 10
          Quote: insular
          I would rather believe in the voluntary and peaceful unification of Korea than in the voluntary and peaceful unification of Russia. Or rather, I believe in the death of one of the Koreas ...

          Yes, dear. The author is right ... Everything will change (in the next thousand years). Not too long ago, the Cursed Brothers cut that out of 12 relatives-princes, 3 remained, and after half a millennium, you see - an empire! It is foolish to expect good things in the near future. But everything goes to one. There is not much choice. Either you are a Slav or you are a "Slave" ... That's it!
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      3. +20
        April 15 2016 08: 14
        And for America with her "do not interfere" play is definitely not worth it. No one has won in such games, except America itself. I know for sure.

        And no one is going to play for her, how many times, after the Civil War and after the Great Patriotic War, Ukraine was restored by the whole country, and what? they are fighting from Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Odessa, Kharkov, propaganda? Well, yes, no, spoons were found, but the sediment remained, if you help, then only the Southwestern Federal District with the center in Donetsk, as part of the Russian Federation. And what would have been previously hung on lanterns svidommty and galitsai.
      4. +8
        April 15 2016 11: 26
        Quote: Siberian
        or antagonistic sentiment will intensify and lead to further collapse of this state.

        Well, only in physics does entropy tend to infinity. And in the life of the state, an edge ever comes, beyond which there is nowhere to go, and therefore the state either ceases to exist at all (examples are darkness), or is reborn in a new form (which we see at home after the 90s). So here - either there will be no Ukraine at all on the map (in any form) - there will be someone to divide the territory of 404, or they will have their own GDP and they will begin to revive.

        The second way, of course, is preferable for them, but for this they need to take some steps themselves.

        1. Outweigh the lights of all Bandera.
        2. To understand that the West will not throw them away for nothing (we managed to understand!), And this automatically makes them enemies of the West.
        3. To understand that ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY in alliance with Russia they can exist and live like people, and not like banderlogs on trees ...

        And we will look and make a decision - do we need a new Ukraine or not. And in the form in which it is today - "Nothing can be fixed here. Lord, burn!"
    2. +22
      April 15 2016 06: 38
      And our task is precisely to stop seeing traitors, Judas, hatskraynikov and others in the inhabitants of Ukraine. A neighbor will not become a good neighbor and brother when they pour mud on one side and quietly whisper in his ear that the Russians are enemies.
      Put a minus article ... A year ago I would put a plus. This infection (Bandera) has been wandering in them for decades. We already supported them a lot and felt sorry for them. Vaccinations did not help. Let them be completely ill and then, for sure, immunity to Bandera will develop. I no longer believe that something in their mind is changing ...
      1. 0
        April 15 2016 11: 51
        Quote: BecmepH
        immunity to Bandera will develop

        The feeling that this disease is hereditary. Therefore, a radical cure will require "genetic engineering".
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    3. +30
      April 15 2016 06: 46
      I also think that he will not get sick. I served back in the late 80s, nothing has yet begun, I could not even imagine what fate was in store for my country. Duc already then, I could not understand why they behave like chyrki, a handful, behave in a group with superiority, boastful, arrogant, etc. I could not understand - like Russian people. The concept of "vata" did not exist then, but they positioned themselves in the same way as they do now, only now they have become obnoxious because they were allowed to. It is necessary to "screw" them into the true historical boundaries, and ours, conquered by the blood of the Russian people and the lands given to them, take away, and let them jump there.
      1. +3
        April 15 2016 08: 16
        Quote: lexx2038
        I also think that it will not get sick.

        I think that he will recover, but unfortunately the metastases will remain. But they need to be ill in such a way as to get such immunity that when they say "independence", etc. they shivered, their limbs were taken away.
      2. +9
        April 15 2016 08: 44
        Quote: lexx2038
        and ours, conquered by the blood of a Russian man and given to them by the land to take away, and let them jump there.

        The Left Bank Outskirts and the Novorossiysk Territory can and must be rescued, and urgently, while they have not yet been completely reformatted into "Ukrainians." If you expect that they themselves will "mature", then you can wait for a completely opposite effect - brainwashing is going on very actively.
        The right-bank outskirts, I think, is lost, there we got another small but vicious Poland ...
      3. -5
        April 15 2016 10: 59
        Quote: lexx2038
        I could not understand - like Russian people.

        Yes, because already a hundred or more years ago it was time to knock the ideas of "Pan-Slavism" out of the Russian head — all this nonsense, unscientific!
    4. +8
      April 15 2016 08: 41
      My dears, it is you and I who have read Ukraine in due time. We. We did not intervene. And they calmly watched how, under the American banjo, with American money, new Banderaites were raised.
      Well, do not hang this blame on us mortals. There is no authority to interfere. The sex of Ukraine is related to Russia, and if Yanukovych was "prochegotot", he was once fed with greens, distracted from the growth of "new Banderaites." Before him, Yushchenko ( 2005-2010) did not pass the elections, but the cabinet was seized, I think, for this very purpose (to raise new Bandera supporters) everyone endured. If by the words "we did not intervene" you mean our government and the president, I don’t know what to say, we can only guess, maybe there was no time either, distracted by something ...
      1. +4
        April 15 2016 09: 39
        Quote: GYGOLA
        I don’t know what to say, one can only guess, maybe there was no time either, they distracted us with something ...

        "If someone decided to drown, then he can no longer be saved" (C)
        Good phrase, capacious. Explains a lot.
        1. 0
          April 15 2016 09: 44
          And such a might be a sad option. Although it was clearly not in the interest.
        2. 0
          April 15 2016 09: 45
          Life is much harder than you think recourse
          1. +2
            April 15 2016 09: 48
            Quote: Siberian
            Life is much harder than you think

            laughing did you decide to exchange smart phrases? Please explain what it is under my comment?
            "In Crimea, not everything is so simple," right? laughing
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    5. +3
      April 15 2016 11: 10
      And not "Dear ones, it is we who will sort out Ukraine in due time. We. We did not interfere. And we calmly watched as new Bandera supporters were raised under the American banjo, using American money." - but our government and the president. But when the government and the president did not dare to openly help Donbass, ordinary citizens volunteered there to defend their own people, also being persecuted by the Russian authorities. So the article is Minus.
    6. 0
      April 15 2016 17: 07
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      I remember (due to my age) both the 70s and 80s in especially western Ukraine, there was no love for us, the Bendera people were already then, but why "already" ... they were always there!

      For this I must say "many thanks" to Khrushchev.
      And yes, even among Westerners there are quite adequate people (many of my friends (ordinary people, for free, that turned on the national idea) in the Lviv region, in Rivne, in the Ivano-Frankivsk region, it was said that all these shocks impede work, a simple example of one furniture workshop - there are about 100 employees, half of whom, according to beliefs, left half), which in the days of Maidan warned that each Maidan is a heart attack / stroke in the country.
    7. 0
      April 15 2016 20: 14
      Itself does not get sick, it is necessary to TREAT
    8. +2
      April 16 2016 14: 01
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      I personally, am tormented by vague doubts that Ukraine will get sick, I remember (due to my age) both the 70s and 80s in especially Western Ukraine, there was no love for us, Bendera were already then, but why "already" ... have always been there!

      They were not there before.
      Historical fact - during the First World War, the occupying Austro-Hungarian troops executed and killed in the camps thousands of Galichans and Lvivans, who proudly declared that they - Russian!
      Only a hundred years have passed - and with the massive efforts of our enemies, the Ukrainians’ self-identity was turned 180 degrees. And the Bolsheviks, idiots, also attached a pen to this - with their Ukrainization.
      Without this, there would long ago have been a single Russian-speaking ethnic group - from different nations, but at the same time respecting its roots - and not today's nonsense with VelikoUkras digging the Black Sea.

      I am not against the beautiful and melodious Ukrainian language, I myself taught it at school, and always had the highest rating.
      I am not against delicious Ukrainian cuisine, or cute traditional embroideries on lovely girls, no.
      But I am against this frenzied nationalism, which, like a virus, was brought into the brains of Ukrainians, against this envious hatred of neighbors, against the sheep’s lamb obedience, who are jumping for slaughter, to the laughter of the Jewish oligarchs.

      The moral is this: all this forcefully introduced Ukrainization - to tear to hell, and to teach in schools that we are all Slavic brothers.
      And a new generation will grow up - good, kind people.
      1. 0
        April 16 2016 23: 00
        Quote: psiho117
        And a new generation will grow up - good, kind people.



        Oh, is it? It is not for nothing that folk wisdom says - "You cannot be lovely."
    9. +1
      April 16 2016 15: 20
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      recovery "of this nation.

      Yes, this is not a nation at all - "Ukrainians"! This is a part of the "Russian world", torn away from it by its enemies, who have successfully reformatted the consciousness of millions. "Ukrainians" is a contagious disease, the controversy of which was sown at the end of the 19th century, which developed and reached its peak in 2014. The crisis we are now witnessing is the final phase of the disease. Then there will be a gradual, difficult and painful recovery. We need to manage the process, correct it, but without shouldering the entire burden of the problems of territorial restoration. Ukraine, as a state, should no longer be! It did not use its "historical chance". Simply because there is NO state-forming nation. There are nationalities, peoples - anyone, but there is NO nation!
    10. 0
      April 16 2016 15: 27
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      I am personally tormented by vague doubts that Ukraine will be ill

      At one time, Poland was today's Ukraine. And earlier - Germany. Anglo-Saxons must be crushed, otherwise we will always fight with each other.
    11. -2
      April 16 2016 18: 42
      And tell me in what country of the world was the Kremlin banning shown the love of the local population?
    12. 0
      April 17 2016 14: 14
      About what you wrote, I completely agree because I am a relative of those people who were in the west of Ukraine in the 70s and know from personal experience WHAT IS Bandera. And now there relatives live constantly calling and cursing, and obsessively! Treatment is required, but I'm afraid that medications will not come up for at least a century!
  2. +12
    April 15 2016 06: 25
    And then, when the bulk of the inhabitants of Ukraine, it will come that the Russian is not an enemy at least.... When it comes that they are not Ukrainians ... but Russians ... But as long as there is no light seen from anywhere ...
    1. +1
      April 15 2016 07: 28
      A gap is visible, and people are able to reason logically, only time is necessary for the formation of a firm, confident, decisive understanding (not for a specific person, there is faster, but for the whole people, with all sorts of indifferent, greedy, stubborn, stupid, gregarious). This is inertia, to move in the opposite direction you need to stop and shift gear and slowly start acceleration (if the engine quickly stalls, it may stall) ...
      So now the stop and transmission is already shifted.
    2. +11
      April 15 2016 09: 20
      Quote: parusnik
      And then, when the bulk of the inhabitants of Ukraine, it will come that the Russian is not an enemy at least

      It seems to me that the word is more appropriate not "code", but "if".
      And IF it comes, then write such revealing articles with the message that the Ukrainians won’t understand that Russian is not an enemy at least, and you refuse to help them here.

      The author is not right, not right. At least in the fact that for some reason he allows ordinary Ukrainians weakness of spirit and not a desire to fight for himself, but we, ordinary Russians, do not allow them to despise them for this.
      The Syrians did not particularly go to rallies against the Islamic State terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation. And also rushed away from the war. Many thousands. Did they chicken out? Are they traitors and hastaskrayniki? However, Russia is fighting for them.

      Russia harnessed to the fact that it has its own ground forces, which, with proper organization, with air support, are ready to eat the land and ate it for more than one year before the arrival of Russia! It’s a shame to even compare Ukrainian and Syrian.

      The Ukrainians did not run away from home as serials, did not rebel against the internal enemy as the Syrians, but went to the ATO to shoot the brothers. To escape to nowhere and save the family - one must also have the courage. Do not run away, stayed. Not to go to the ATO - there wasn’t enough courage either, as there wasn’t enough courage and the regime to resist (where to confront it! To run too lazy or cowardly). For that, drunk enough courage to shoot at a peaceful city and whine on the dirt in the tent.

      Yes, just compare the state of Syrian cities and cities of Ukraine! Have you compared? And who is a coward and a traitor? who scared, and who escaped?

      No, it’s better to help Syria.

      Around the author is wrong.
      1. +3
        April 15 2016 10: 29
        Russia harnessed itself to the fact that ...
        Russia "harnessed" to Syria because: a) at the request of the incumbent President B. Assad (did not have time to overthrow the troops he raised) and the Syrian people b) it is in our interests. Russia did not "harness" in Ukraine: a) Poroshenko did not ask and his people, Yanukovych pshsh ... overthrew b) this is also in our interests, proof of the DPR LPR, but alas and ah ...
      2. +5
        April 15 2016 11: 07
        Insular! 09.20. Bravo! Good comparison. 20 million Syrians and 45 million Okraintsev. Syria Elite and Outskirts Elite. Some rallied, others sold out. One escaped, the other remained in his own country. Are there few opponents of the new government on the outskirts? Is Assad a protege of the majority or minority? Why was Assad able to organize resistance, but not Okraintsy? Why didn't the Assad elite sell it as the elite of the Outskirts of its president?
        1. +3
          April 15 2016 11: 57
          Assad was able to organize resistance, but Okraintsy not
          The Syrian army, with honor and dignity, is carrying out the president’s order; in Ukraine, such an order did not come from Yanukovych, it was his fault, and it was only his fault. It’s wrong to blame ordinary people — no one wants a war at home, no one expected that they would take it into circulation, some believed in the best American-European life, maybe it was a calculation. Responsibility always and everywhere rests with the president of the country. Through the president, whole peoples and territories take their hands. And then the opinions of those who disagree are of no interest to anyone.
          1. +1
            April 15 2016 12: 23
            But there are always two ways out, even if you are eaten recourse .At the moment, these 45 million are happy with everything ... except for LDNR, which, by the way, can freak out from such a life, then Kiev will have to be tight. And what would today's Kiev not have to be tight from a bunch of dissenters (I apologize for the word Kiev sees them) -for this, the United States is doing everything possible to strengthen and strengthen its assigned army and power.
            1. +1
              April 15 2016 14: 36
              Quote: GYGOLA
              .At the moment, these 45 million are happy with everything ...,

              How did you decide that? With the reports of UkroSmi? So what did you expect from them, not biased coverage of events? Or do you live in Ukraine so that you can so easily judge the events taking place here? So do not use unfounded "la-la".
              1. 0
                April 16 2016 18: 18
                Why did you decide this? From UkroSmi reports?
                I did not even expect that it looked like a d ... ba who watches UkroSmi. Tricolor TV is what I know about television. And here's the thing (as if not to offend anyone) during the period of hostilities of those who do not agree whom Kh.R does not suit) two times and it was miscalculated that the DPR and LPR in Kharkiv went through unrest (after Kernes was wounded) and in Odessa (after the tragedy in the House of Trade Unions everything was quiet) everything you heard. , I don’t. And with the conclusion that these 45 million are satisfied. Again, except for the DNI and LC. soldier
                1. +1
                  April 17 2016 00: 21
                  here you are ignorant.
                  You do not know what is going on there, but you dare to judge people.
                  Quote: GYGOLA
                  And here's the thing (as if not to offend anyone) during the period of hostilities of those who disagree (those who are not happy with x.ra) two times and it was the DNI and LC who miscalculated in Kharkiv (after Kernes was wounded) and in Odessa ( after the tragedy in the House of Trade Unions, everything died down) everything. You heard something about the People’s People’s Republic, People’s People’s Republic, People’s People’s People’s Republic, People’s People’s People’s People’s Republic. I don’t think that these 45 million people are happy with everything. Besides the People’s People’s Republic and People’s People’s Republic. soldier

                  Unrest was throughout the south-east of the country, EVERYTHING! and the People’s Republic of Hungary and the People’s Republic of Ukraine and the People’s Republic of Moldova and the People’s Republic of Poland and anything else could happen if the United States acted as the authorities of the Russian Federation acted - namely, they were inactive, but alas for us the United States were not like that and cheerfully got down to business, they brought the soldiers of law enforcement officers to the city who violently dispersed all the rallies with the support of the junta authorities and the police, which was now following the junta’s order, then they got involved with the CIA, who quickly kidnapped or killed all activists, they killed especially stubborn crippled people right before everyone’s eyes, as they hoped to Russia, but in vain we ** have a hitroplane, that is, a US plan to surrender Ukraine to Amer. So, the emergence of the DNI and LNR, in fact, judging by the hitroplaniks, arose in general in spite of Russia and its authorities, and the fact that the rest of the regions could not move from rallies to an armed uprising is the right job of the United States to suppress dissent. This is the first.

                  Secondly, in wartime, those who disagree are stupidly killed, anyone who openly declares that he is not an ardent Russophobe and, in general, if he has friendship, at least adequate relations with the Russian Federation — they will immediately put anyone in prison or kill him. So the question is for residents, either you are against the Russian Federation or they will let all the dogs down and you are a corpse, while there is simply no hope of protecting Russia.

                  In short, blaming Ukrainians for what is happening there is like blaming the population of the USSR for the collapse of the USSR and the lawlessness of the 90s
                  Personally, I have enough intelligence to know simple truths that the majority of the population of the USSR was against the collapse of the USSR, and the majority of the population of Ukraine was against the junta.
                  1. 0
                    April 17 2016 15: 31
                    I just don't blame anyone. And I guessed what you wrote.
                    the emergence of the DPR and LPR in fact, judging by the cunning planes, generally arose contrary to Russia and its authorities
                    But they arose. Others did not succeed ... then ... now they won’t hi
        2. +1
          April 15 2016 14: 32
          Quote: Region 34
          Why was Assad able to organize resistance, but not Okraintsy?

          Here is demagoguery. The ASSAD was able to, but YANUKOVOSCH did not. Yanukovosch, not the Ukrainians. A crowd of rams led by a lion is more likely to win than a crowd of lions led by a ram. By the elite: Assad has all the elite relatives, tribesmen. This time. offered (remember Hussein, there the generals were normally offered, and the order). These are two. The moment for sale is not suitable, not yet ripe, also an option. Perhaps the Americans decided that Assad was already "baked" and his hours were numbered, he would "come" himself ... There are a lot of options.
          1. 0
            April 17 2016 00: 05
            The whole difference between Yanukvoyevich and Assad of the current is that Assad never believed the West, or rather even that ... Assad, unlike Yanukovych believe the west on the proposals of the Russian authorities! Assad will send (sent since such a proposal was already de facto) both the West and Russia to hell and this is completely right, and now as a result receives help from Russia.
      3. +1
        April 16 2016 16: 49
        insular you are comparing the situation in Syria and in Ukraine, it's like comparing x .. with a goose neck, this is a vivid example of what this person does not understand at all in politics
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    4. -1
      April 15 2016 11: 05
      Quote: parusnik
      . When it comes to what they are not Ukrainians ... but Russian

      Come on, as much as possible! Well, where were these "Russians" when the Russians as a nation only appeared in Russia under Ivan the Great? Forgotten the territory of the Russian Kingdom?
      And when Kiev second time recall the jurisdiction of Russia, whose dynasty was already in Russia then?
      1. cap
        +1
        April 15 2016 11: 17
        Quote: Voima-liitto
        And when Kiev entered the jurisdiction of Russia for the second time, recall, whose dynasty was already in Russia then?


        Well, enlighten !!
        1. 0
          April 15 2016 12: 18
          Quote: cap
          Well, enlighten !!

          It was a rhetorical question and I am surprised that you do not know the answer to it.
      2. +1
        April 15 2016 15: 04
        Quote: Voima-liitto
        in Russia, Russians as a nation only appeared under Ivan the Great

        hmm ... and before Ivan the Great in Tver did some other people live?
        Have you forgotten the territory of the Russian Kingdom?

        The Russian Kingdom is already under Ivan the Terrible
        And when Kiev entered the jurisdiction of Russia for the second time, recall, whose dynasty was already in Russia then?

        The Romanovs replaced the Rurikovich in 1613
        I can’t understand why the question was asked about kings then?
      3. +2
        April 15 2016 15: 58
        When did Russians as a nation appear in Russia under Ivan the Great? And before Ivan the Great, who lived in Northeast Russia ..? Ivan the Great appeared and brought the Russians with him .. smile
    5. Lex
      0
      April 16 2016 13: 54
      Do you really need to convince someone of kinship? Let people live as they want, let them consider themselves brothers or not, this is their problem. The important thing is not whether they consider themselves "relatives" or not, it is more important how you perceive them.
      If my relative (distant or near) turns out to be an enemy and tries to kill me or my family - I will beat until he starts shouting - "Brother (substitute yours), what are you doing, you will kill me, remember that I you are not a stranger ... ". And already my right - to remember, or forget that in front of you is the one who swore eternal friendship earlier.
      You have to be strong yourself and behave accordingly.
  3. +1
    April 15 2016 06: 36
    Actually, the article is correct. Not all there are bandits and fascists, their minority. But why the majority allows you to twist them? Of course they are intimidated and apparently for sure, we must wait until they wake up.
    1. +4
      April 15 2016 10: 20
      Quote: volodya
      Actually, the article is correct. Not all there are bandits and fascists, their minority. But why the majority allows you to twist them? Of course they are intimidated and apparently for sure, we must wait until they wake up.

      Perhaps I will give an answer to your question. There are two "why" factors:
      At first The overwhelming majority of the people here in Ukraine want to live in an independent country. The differences are only in one thing, namely, in relation to Russia. In other words, there are those who want "nezalezhnosti" in friendship with Russia, and those who want "nezalezhnosti" in enmity with Russia. A tiny part of society, mostly of retirement age, dreams of reunification. Moreover, regional division does not fully reflect the division of opinions. In Odessa there are those who are against Russia, and in Lvov there are those who are "for". Was a year ago in Lviv, talking on the way with a taxi driver. An elderly man, he served in the "SA". He openly said that it was necessary to restore relations with Russia, but with an independent Ukraine.
      I'll say about myself: if Russia decided to restore the USSR in the 90s, I would be the first to go to war for it. And now, 25 years later, no. And not because he became "old and lazy." The train just left. To break now all your life, the life of your children, just to replace the Ukrainian oligarchs with the Russian ones? Kolomoisky to Vekselberg - no, thank you. If you do not understand this conviction of the "Ukrainian Russians", then you will not understand anything about the situation here. You will live with illusions and write articles like "why so" ?. Another thing, I repeat, is the normalization of relations with Russia. This is yes.
      Second, the situation here is so different from what you see about it on TV that it is sometimes funny, and sometimes sickening, from comments on the site based on this "infe". Let me give you an example. Here is a video of the celebration of the 72nd anniversary of the liberation of Odessa from the German-Romanian invaders. More precisely, this is part of the celebration, there was also a concert. Place of action Kuyalnitsky estuary, s. Ilyinka, date April 10, 2016, was present in person. Pay attention to the general "hurray" of the audience - 7.09-7.30 min.
      1. +1
        April 15 2016 10: 57
        Personally, I do not pretend that Ukraine became part of Russia. I just want a normal, friendly relationship. And then you already shout there about the severance of diplomatic relations. This already looks like a declaration of war. But if the Great Ukrainians really want extraordinary amers, there is nothing to be done.
      2. +1
        April 15 2016 11: 48
        there is nothing wrong with Ukraine being independently self-sufficient and adequate in relation to all neighbors. BUT history shows that this is not possible. Unfortunately, almost all the countries of the USSR and also of Eastern Europe are trying to make Russia a trick and are conducting quite aggressive activities against the Russian Federation. With all possible problems and misunderstandings regarding Russia, if these countries and their authorities pursued their own policies, most problems would probably be resolved on their own. It is worth recalling that the Russian Federation that the USSR, having very serious claims to many countries, tried to hush up the most unpleasant moments and not to advertise very much but just to work.
        Unfortunately, Ukraine has demonstrated its inadequacy. It is worth recalling that throughout the late USSR, immigrants from Ukraine prevailed at the top of the government. What all this led to, we all see perfectly. The fact that now is not due to aggressive Russian politics and the infringement of Ukrainians. This is precisely because of the aggressive policy of the Ukrainian authorities and the fact that the majority of the people support all this. I personally know people who jumped for joy with all sorts of aggressive and anti-Russian antics of Yanek, who immediately began to dig him and right now also happily jumped from the antics of the current rulers. All problems with Ukrainians come from their authorities. Russia did not intervene there at all. There were some moments with a woman with a pie on her head, but it was a payment for the fact that she was rubbing Russian gas. Putin did not care who paid for it. As always, all the burden fell on the shoulders of the people.
        The authorities are the same everywhere. Right now I watched the news. They say there that Putin carried on the air. All the main channels translated everything into a selection of all kinds of stupid stories. Worse, the topic is always the same: everyone wants Putin to intervene and no one wants to do something himself. Although it has been seen for several years that Putin quietly supports all thieves, even at the local level. After all, no one has ever suffered any responsibility for all the problems that are voiced. Putin gives money to the local authorities so that they shut up those who are indignant and who have never suffered from those who made a mess.
        Ukraine needs to solve its own problems. agree with the Donbass (something like Putin in Chechnya) to start working and, before saying anything, at least start thinking. Do not Khokhlov hoping for a freebie. And those who expect it from the EU and those who expect it from Putin.
      3. 0
        April 16 2016 00: 27
        It is clear - the zomboy is to blame for everything, so not so. Who burned the people in the House of Trade Unions? Yes, yes, we all got it wrong again!
        1. +1
          April 17 2016 00: 35
          Who burned people in the house of trade unions? do you think the Ukrainian people? but then whom did they burn? do not you think the Ukrainian people?
          It turns out that you claim that the pravoseki and all this is the Ukrainian people, and all the adequate people who died are not people at all and no one at all.

          The facts are that among the dead all the inhabitants of Odessa and Ukraine, and among the arsonists, there are not many Baltic residents of Kiev and the Baltic States from Odessa.

          Geopolitics is to blame for everything, the United States captured Ukraine while the authorities of the Russian Federation chewed snot, that’s who is to blame, the actions of some and the inaction of others. And the people there did not decide anything.
      4. +1
        April 16 2016 10: 27
        The train just left. Breaking now all my life, the lives of my children, only in order to change the Ukrainian oligarchs to Russian? Kolomoisky on Vekselberg - no, fire.
        So then fuck off from the Donbass and the Crimea, and live as you want ...
        PS Well, repay debts to the heap ....
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      6. Lex
        +5
        April 16 2016 14: 53
        It so happened that in August 14 I was just in the territory of "eastern Ukraine". Sometimes, very rarely - they got to TVs to watch at least the news. So after the Ukrainian news, there was a feeling of cold rage, it was a very good motivator to continue fighting with dill.

        Why? Because Ukro-media at that time played patriotic videos, like: buildings are burning, a small crying child is standing on which a tank with Russian symbols clanging tracks and a voice-over - "save Ukraine, go to ATO". A very dramatic and impressive video for those who live in Ukraine on the other side of the ATO.
        But I was on this side - in the DPR, and I knew that unfortunately there are no Russian troops here, no. And tanks and artillery - there is nothing of this. And if you hear the rare work of artillery - in 90% this is the work of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and if artille hammering without sparing shells - then 99%.
        And what happened - there were constant shelling of peaceful settlements by the gallant gunners with yellow-blue symbols, and you knew that this child actually exists, only he lives in New Russia, and the video could be shown, it would even be true, only flags Russian from the tank change to yellow-blue.
        Watching Ukro-news while being at the scene was very difficult, because with my own eyes I saw how everything was turned upside down, how monstrous lies are driven into the population of Ukraine ....
    2. cap
      +1
      April 15 2016 11: 36
      Quote: volodya
      you have to wait when they wake up.


      All men work in Russia. How can everyone else be abandoned?
      Those who stayed resist with weapons in their hands.
      These are OUR PEOPLE!
      1. +1
        April 15 2016 12: 02
        Yes, these people were ours, but you read what they write. A little higher "Normal is ok", a man served in the SA, writes that we do not understand anything and they do not want to go to Russia. Who is calling them? It's just a shame that our former ones are climbing into the EU, with an outstretched hand they are climbing to America.
        1. -1
          April 16 2016 10: 26
          And he wrote you correctly.
    3. +2
      April 15 2016 12: 01
      Before climbing to Ukraine, we must free ourselves from external control.
  4. PKK
    0
    April 15 2016 06: 48
    We forget that the top of Dill is very cunning. They will not cut all tranches, for example, through one, one into the case, another to themselves, so that it would be clear that the process has begun.
    Once again about the cause of the War (ATO), the Universe destroys hate carriers. Because hate is a weapon of destruction, destroys all life around with a certain radius. Then it’s simple. The Americans instilled hatred for the Ukrainian people, strong mortal hatred. Next, the matter of technology, the Universe began to destroy carriers hatred (dill). Simple and reliable. The militias just do the will of the Universe and destroy the carriers of hatred. Although they themselves destroy the carriers well. Conclusion: the ATO will be, as long as there is hatred. Go to another level, peace will come. It's simple.
    1. +4
      April 15 2016 07: 04
      For the PKK.
      What a philosopher you are. Zaboro you how.
    2. +2
      April 15 2016 17: 29
      Quote: PKK
      The Universe began to destroy the carriers of hatred (dill). It’s simple and reliable. The militia just fulfills the will of the Universe and destroys the carriers of hatred. Although they themselves destroy the carriers not bad. Conclusion: ATO will be, as long as there is hatred. Go to another level, peace will come. Everything is simple.

      The Buddhist preacher finished the speech, and we continue ... =)
      1. PKK
        0
        April 15 2016 21: 01
        Nothing is complicated. It's simple: you have hatred, you will perish, there will be no hatred, you will live on.
        1. Lex
          0
          April 16 2016 15: 07
          Anyone who does not resist dies like a ram, that's all. And treating him like a ram ...
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    3. 0
      April 16 2016 01: 51
      The philosophy however!
  5. +5
    April 15 2016 06: 53
    But you need to write articles in a conceptual series that is understandable for most, and do not try to learn abstract reasoning what would happen if. Putin said quite clearly, 2 years ago, on a straight line, that only if and only then, if there is complete confidence that our military will not be shot in the back. And the fact that this whole story (Maidan, horse racing, etc.) is for a long time. So everything else is empty reasoning, and the lamentations of the authors are incorrect.
  6. +3
    April 15 2016 06: 59
    So to get into Ukrainian affairs we are not something that God himself ordered, duty tells us.
    And to show and prove that the Ukrainian is not a nation. This is the place to live.

    Something is not particularly noticeable efforts of our propaganda in this direction. Especially in Ukraine, where its efforts are approaching the level of statistical error, which is also prohibited for distribution. No one is trying to play on the fact that the forbidden fruit is sweet. Just laugh at the passages about the nutritional value of hedgehogs. So we will finally lose Ukraine.
    1. +3
      April 15 2016 07: 17
      Quote: Mikhail M
      Something is not particularly noticeable efforts of our propaganda in this direction.

      Why is it very noticeable. When our artists go there, wave the Ukrainian flag and shout "Glory to the Heroes", this is propaganda (although later, when they stop going to their concerts, they curse Ukraine). When our artists go to Donetsk and Lugansk, this is also propaganda.
    2. +7
      April 15 2016 08: 18
      Mikhail m
      So we will finally lose Ukraine.
      I will repeat myself. A year ago I would not want to lose Ukraine, but now I don’t care ... If you think about it, "why do we need such a Ukraine?" We need to put things in order in our house. We will bring out the cockroaches and then we will help the neighbor.
  7. +1
    April 15 2016 07: 01
    I put the article plus: let them restore themselves. Arrived stupid people.
  8. -1
    April 15 2016 07: 16
    I think that we need to give time .. PEOPLE themselves will understand who the enemy is and who and what! SO THAT .. a matter of time, we will certainly come!
    I THINK THAT .. and we DIVIDENTS ARE NEEDED .. to take ABROAD RATS .. IN THE VIEW OF - ALYASOCHI!
    Somewhere there and SERBIA with OUR PEOPLE .. YUGOSLAVIA!
    BUT we must not forget the LORD about our inner open spaces .. THIS IS SIBERIA and its development in the whole plan and the Far East! uniform development of the whole country!
    We also have the MONGOLS Neighbors .. who did not betray us even in difficult times! And CHINA .. whoever says anything .. and they SAVE COMMUNISM!
    1. +1
      April 15 2016 10: 49
      Quote: Nitarius
      And CHINA .. whoever says anything .. and they SAVE COMMUNISM!

      Khrushchev the Lysokuzoruzny / conformal display of the Great Helmsman / managed to narrow-film to manage, since there was COMMUNISM in China?
    2. +3
      April 15 2016 11: 07
      Quote: Nitarius
      And CHINA .. whoever says anything .. and they SAVE COMMUNISM!

      What, what? laughing
      What they could save, they have not even built socialism yet! They maintained communism just like we do, and they and we have a communist party! laughing
      1. -5
        April 15 2016 20: 18
        Quote: Voima-liitto
        What they could save, they have not even built socialism yet! They maintained communism just like we do, and they and we have a communist party!

        Yes, you passol, undercommunicated flagodal-blind man! Throw your non-communist under-party in a well-known place and remember IVS more often! If you do not understand anything, then I explain: Friday, lack of money on the card, watching the video conference of V.V.P. and general "approbation" and in general = today I AM an ASH (!! velmi !!!).
  9. +1
    April 15 2016 07: 19
    I already here somewhere drew a map that now the borders of the Russian Federation have moved to the east and are approximately at the same borders as they were in the middle of 1942. It's time to issue an order "not a step back".
  10. +3
    April 15 2016 07: 21
    I agree with the author and with such a vector of our politicians if it comes to that, but! under one condition smile if a-
    Sooner or later, but the junta will abandon this failed project and run away to devour the stolen to warmer places. I am sure that it will be so.
    that will not be so! and the whole junta to one, to the last reptile will be destroyed! as Massad did with the terrorists after the well-known events. and my justification such-these nits will gobble up, and others looking at the fact that they will all look with impunity in 2014 and dream the same than gunpowder and pack.
  11. +12
    April 15 2016 07: 23
    Dear, I have a brother in Kharkov, in Nikolaev, my father’s uncle, in Kerch my mother’s aunt, and when the issue of the EU was discussed under Yanukovych, I asked my relatives, what do you think, the answer struck in short, we don’t need Russia to you beggars and your laws are bad, we’ll go to Europe, I won’t forget this, I’ll certainly help, I’ll give my help, but you can’t fix the relationship. On the topic of the article Ukraine is a huge market, whether we want it or not, as soon as the situation changes, the business will go and restore and buy what is possible, we won’t be in the EU there, but people correctly write the necessary serious cleaning, plus many years of education (although it won’t help, Russia will be to blame) example Poland, Baltic, here's my conclusion
  12. +9
    April 15 2016 07: 26
    And if you compare with Germany? There, the Nazis gradually seized power, transformed the country and unleashed the bloodiest war in the history of mankind. Until the Soviet Union broke their horns and only then did the Germans cease to be Nazis and unanimously disown their past. In Ukraine, this is repeated, but in the form of farce. Only real blood is pouring. And therefore, LDNR must win!
    1. +1
      April 15 2016 09: 21
      Not "ceased to be Nazis", but "forced to stop being Nazis". I don’t know for how long. Adolf Aloizovich, until recently, no one was going to overthrow. So they hardly repented. And the Ukrainians made their own choice. But Russia is blamed for everything. Say, we chose Yanukovosch for them, and constantly blackmailed and robbed. I would not be surprised if they later say that Russia and Poproshenko made a mistake. Those who want to be with Russia will move here. Enough room. The rest don't care.
      1. 0
        April 15 2016 11: 09
        Quote: Veltmajster
        Adolf Aloizovich, until recently, no one was going to overthrow.

        Oh well, there were even attempts on him.
      2. +4
        April 15 2016 14: 24
        Quote: Veltmajster
        forced to stop being Nazis

        They themselves abandoned the Nazi prshshlogo. Of course, the corresponding work was carried out. The Germans cried, watching documentaries about concentration camps, they did not even believe what it was. They simply abandoned their bloody past, erasing it from their memory. This is the property of human nature, forgetting everything bad and replacing it with a positive in its memory. So the Germans renounced Nazism, although not so long ago they marched with torches and with tears of happiness in their eyes screaming Xail! Something like this
  13. +6
    April 15 2016 07: 35
    Two articles are similar today and probably not the last. Why would it be so suddenly ???
    An article about the fact that the worse it is in kakland, the Ukrainians again began to turn into Russians) Well, I don’t believe these people aren’t already gone. These radishes will surrender us at the very first skucher)))
  14. +3
    April 15 2016 08: 10
    Yes, put someone this amateur to fight for some kind of tank simulator for Kharkov. Let it calm down.
  15. +8
    April 15 2016 08: 13
    Our country is called Russia, not Ukraine, Syria or God forbid Moldova. we have our pensioners, our veterans, our regions on the verge of bankruptcy, a sea of ​​our problems.
  16. +11
    April 15 2016 08: 21
    My opinion is that jumping, jumping and jumping will not be representatives of western Ukraine, but central and eastern. Those who speak Russian and curses with threats do not write urine, but in Russian. And it will last a long time, Moses dragged the Jews through the desert for a reason 40 years.
    Now they have a breakdown there, cognitive dissonance, they are not welcome there, but it’s a shame to come here, come back and blame, pride does not allow.
    In any case, Russia will be to blame. That which did not support the revolutionary impulse. For the fact that in time did not stop. For allowing this mess, where they steal even more and more impudently. In any case, we will be to blame. And it’s not the zapadents who will be the most zealous in the accusations, to them what, fat, burned, a hut, a kitchen garden, a full table and all. This is a village. As in the joke about the double portrait, on the one hand, Lenin, on the other, Nikolai, whoever came will turn it over. And they go anywhere to earn money, even to hell with pies. And in Russia in the morning they will sing the anthem of the Russian Federation, if only they would pay.
    They will not be blamed, but those who think and speak Russian, those who are infected with the bacillus of ukrofascism.
    Therefore, I repeat that I have already done more than once on this site, Ukraine should split up. New Russia to the East. West to the old, pre-war masters, but the center remains on its own and over the years through 40 you can watch what they got there.
    Well, do not get infected with the bacillus of independence.
    1. +2
      April 15 2016 09: 14
      I fully support. What areas have fulfilled the call 100%? Who in the majority and where in the National Battles is fighting with the Donbass? Russians by blood and not from the western regions.
  17. +1
    April 15 2016 08: 35
    Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
    ... And our task is precisely to stop seeing traitors, Judas, hatskraynikov and others in the inhabitants of Ukraine. A neighbor will not become a good neighbor and brother when they pour mud on one side and quietly whisper in his ear that the Russians are enemies ...

    Putin said about the drowning - if they want to drown, then no one can save them.

    This raises another question. Are the people responsible for those whom they choose or not? And until a clear answer to this question is given, the decision to save the drowning person will not have a clear vision.

    As there among the classics - the people deserve that ruler, who then has it. Ukraine itself must be ill with the Bandera infection, cleanse itself of the complex of its superiority over us, ask us for forgiveness for the destruction of the Russians, and then we can consider the question of our help to them. Until then, there can be no question of any help on our part.
    1. +2
      April 15 2016 08: 48
      Quote: Boris55
      As there among the classics, the people deserve that ruler, who then has it. Ukraine should be ill with Bandera’s infection, cleanse itself of the complex of its superiority over us, ask us for forgiveness for the destruction of the Russians, and then we can consider our help to them. Until then, there can be no question of any help from our side.

      There will be nothing like that, with such an attitude of Ukraine towards the Russian Federation and, accordingly, the Russian Federation towards Ukraine, relations based on money will never be strong and durable, everything is only here and now, nationalism is a dead end
      1. +3
        April 15 2016 11: 49
        Do not confuse nationalism and Nazism. Healthy nationalism is the support of the nation and the essence of its survival. Only when this is no longer possible does Nazism arise and its worst manifestation is fascism, which is hated by all mankind. This is what we are seeing today in Ukraine. But just think, this is happening with us. For a long time, Russian people have not been perceived as a nation, intentionally dissolved in a faceless concept - the Russians. Unlike other nations, Russian people become a faceless mass, and simply degenerate. Are we not worthy of our national culture, our holidays, our broadcasts, is Russia an immigrant country without a clan and tribe? Answer yourself this question, think about your future, then you will begin to live differently. In Finland, Scotland, Germany, in all post-Soviet national republics, people are not shy about their origin, they love and respect their national clothes, their music. Do you really not want to be proud of your gender, your great history? Outcasts and Lataria cannot be masters of their land, their destiny is slave labor for the benefit of those who own them, disagree with them!
        1. +1
          April 15 2016 20: 20
          Quote: epsilon571
          Healthy nationalism is the support of the nation and the essence of its survival.

          This is possible in a mono-ethnic country, and still this is a dead end, there will be cooking in one's own juice, real development begins under internationalism, when ideas, concepts are borrowed, something new is created on their basis
        2. Lex
          +2
          April 16 2016 15: 26
          In my opinion, there is a wonderful way to distinguish healthy nationalism from Nazism.
          The first is when a person is ready to die for his people.
          The second is when a person is ready to kill others.
  18. 0
    April 15 2016 08: 54
    Quote: Boris55
    Ukraine itself must be ill with the Bandera infection, cleanse itself of the complex of its superiority over us, ask us for forgiveness for the destruction of the Russians, and then we can consider the question of our help to them. Until then, there can be no question of any help on our part.

    I’m afraid that this disease will last a very long time ...
    Deeply embedded the Maidan Bacillus in the brains of a neighbor ..
  19. +1
    April 15 2016 09: 08
    So, are we supposed to play for America now?


    We should not play for the Americans. Ukrainians themselves should begin to be treated for phobias, they need help in this. But while they believe that we are to blame for the Russians, no help. Let them deal with the murderers of children and women of Donbass, let them realize, clearly and clearly, that they, Ukrainians, and no one else are to blame. Treatment can last a very long time, you need to wait.
  20. +7
    April 15 2016 09: 09
    I definitely don’t think that Ukraine needs help. for all the years of Soviet power, so many tumbled into this republic !!! mom dear! at the time of the collapse of the USSR, it was the most economically stable republic. With a good industrial base, agricultural industry! they lived better than any backwoods of the USSR! as well as the Balts! these were generally considered "small abroad"! The USSR collapsed, and the Russian Federation took over the entire international debt of the USSR - not a single republic was in such financial bondage, everyone was clean! During the years of Soviet power, it was not customary to say that Bandera views took place in Ukraine, so they were silent and whitewashed Ukraine in every possible way, they were silent about how they met the Nazis (with flowers, but with embroidered towels!), They were silent about that, that the reports of the fascists themselves indicated the special cruelty of the local population, which served as all sorts of elders, towards their own! the Germans did not hang Russian fighters - the local Ukrainians did everything. They were silent about this. So as not to fan the enmity, but it still poured out! one thing I cannot understand - their "animal hatred" for the Russians. If they themselves, YOURSELF !!! do not want to coexist with us peacefully, why should they impose? that we all the time with kisses and hugs climb to everyone? do not want - do not! the doctor said - to the morgue, then to the morgue!
    1. 0
      April 15 2016 16: 18
      But the Vlasovites didn’t, but the Lokot Republic, and that the Zoya also gave the Germans the Kosmodemyanskaya Germans to the Germans
    2. +1
      April 16 2016 18: 08
      If you believe the UN then in the 80s, Ukraine was in terms of living in 5th place in the world, imagine? And these Ukrainians still manage to destroy everything that is connected with the USSR, they must pray and thank this time
  21. +4
    April 15 2016 09: 18
    Quote: Boris55
    Putin said about the drowning - if they want to drown, then no one can save them.

    In general, this is a Chinese proverb, it sounds something like "A man who drowns cannot be saved."
    I have relatives there in Kiev, aware of what is happening.
    The problem is quite simple - a generation has changed, of which educated consumers of services and goods for Europe and others
    They do not know that the fathers and grandfathers in the Second World War and ours sprinkled the earth with red ones, and they absolutely do not want to know. The current generation of 18-35 years has been poisoned; all the presidents of Ukraine have done this and cannot be cured. IMHO this abscess for a long time.
  22. +1
    April 15 2016 09: 22
    However, Russia is fighting for them.
    Not for them, but for the peace of citizens and guests of Russia. soldier
  23. +3
    April 15 2016 09: 34
    Your offer, I say, is wretched, we will beat the muzzle afterwards, I want guilt. This piece of quotation from Vysotsky is the answer to your article.
    Let's face it tell the truth.
    In the west of Ukraine, Bandera’s ideas have been living for more than a dozen years, they could not be etched even in Soviet times.
    The eastern and southeastern and central regions are closer to Russia.
    Conclusion: they will never get along, especially after such victims, we don’t yet know how many people there disappeared in the dungeons of their Gestapo and how they died. Still, we’ll have to divide Ukraine and separate banderlogy from normal people, even if they are friends with the Pshek, it will be interesting to see, but I’m afraid I won’t live, it’s a very long process, it will take more than a dozen years.
  24. +6
    April 15 2016 09: 36
    Fiddling with Ukraine is the same as playing with a gamer. You will return debts for him, get a job, everything seems to be fine. Some time. Then he again fell off and started off in a new way: lost to the cross, wherever he could collect debts, took off from work, this is in the best case, or maybe he wiped his eyes with someone’s money. Help again, save? Is it necessary? After all, you can’t pour a bottomless barrel. How many times have they been pulled? And what about the exhaust? At best, hostility, or even hatred. They even hate those who have been living here for more than a decade and hate a country that provides them and their families. But again, Russia must tear itself away from itself, in order to again, after some time, receive spits in the face? No, basta karapuziki, the dances are over!
  25. +1
    April 15 2016 09: 57
    That Ukraine, which exists today, must die.

    Definitely correct! Maidan disease is not cured. Already two exacerbations have passed, but there is no improvement. It's like a plague - it won't die until it kills the body. And even after that, it is dangerous if the corpse is not destroyed.
    It seems to be tough. But such an analogy.
    1. +1
      April 15 2016 10: 10
      I agree. And I will say a seditious thing: Russians and Ukrainians have never been "brothers". Hatred of Mos.k. als is in their blood both in the western and central regions, and in the east for many. Do not cure.
  26. +8
    April 15 2016 10: 03
    My sister has a husband from the Donetsk region, a house, a household, before everything was going to return with his family, now we met, well, how, Kolya? He only said, "It's good that my parents didn't live to see this" ... Ukraine ... For me personally, this is a georaphic concept, like Siberia, the Volga region, the Urals, and this is not just the Russian land, it is our historical core. We sat the other day, drank vodka, came across a disc, turned out to be for karaoke, folk songs, Russian, Ukrainian, put on. Music and credits, sad and sincere Ukrainian motives, well, where is this "Zapadenskaya mova", where is there something different from the Russian ear and heart? Think about it, how is it, even in the army, in Soviet times, they approached a column with recruits, from where, they say, guys - "from Kiev" ... We talked, even then there was bewilderment how Russian Kiev ceased to be Russian. Even then, what became the natural result of what happened was ripening and spike, when they called Little Russia separatist "Ukraine", singling it out from Russia, and they did not even symbolically bother to give Kiev the status of the ancient capital of Russia. The West was not asleep, and we raised zombies, GMOs, mutants at our side. Well ... This should have helped them get sick, this abscess was supposed to open up. Doctor - Russia is there for them, and the vaccine, DPR and LPR are almost ready for them. Who can be saved, cured, must be saved, who is not, an aspen stake in a black zombie-Bandera heart, but, in any case, this is Russian land, and it cannot be given to the West.
    1. +1
      April 15 2016 10: 25
      I agree with almost everything, but too many stakes will be required and a too deep pit will have to be digged, and howling around the world you won’t be enough. Therefore, I proposed above to separate this Galicia and let them be friends with the psheks.
      1. +1
        April 15 2016 13: 21
        About Galicia, Yuri, I think that it was worth returning it to the pshekas immediately after the war, and leaving East Prussia for themselves. All these “great” states, offended by God, with inferiority complexes in front of Russia, do not remember the good how much Russia did for them and what it gave them, be it the Baltic states or Poland. "Thank you" even to Comrade Khrushchev for resettling the Banderaites after the war "for re-education" in the eastern regions, spreading the infection. Nevertheless, if we dig into this problem, it probably did not even begin with the formation of the USSR, our emperors, unlike their Western colleagues, did not strongly strive to see Russian roots in the historical Russian lands, as if, amusing themselves with the hohlyatsky "native" transformation after Rzeczpospolita. But what happened, what happened, we must continue to live, to create for the good of Russia.
  27. +4
    April 15 2016 10: 13
    For those who do not understand what happened in Ukraine, I give an example:
    There is, say, a Russian city.
    It has two football teams.
    Che play there, but the majority of the population do not care.
    There are fans of these clubs.
    And the fans of one of the clubs were told that if you change the seats from red to blue in yellow stars in the stadium, then happiness will come and there will be a peramog.
    They are crowded, demand.
    The mayor is a thieving rogue. And serious outsiders support the fans. And instead of dispersing them, they begin to agree on something.
    These fans, sensing their strength, now want everything in general.
    And by seizing the city hall they get it. Moreover, both the police and law enforcement agencies in general merge towards them.
    And they begin to impose their views on the whole city. And this despite the fact that people generally spit on football.
    Fans of another club are also in the city. But they missed when it was possible, and they counted on the help of fans from a neighboring city, but alas, the neighbors decided it was more important to support someone in another country and in cricket competitions.
    The situation is developing. And now everywhere everywhere everyone is forced to scream little words, wear scarves and more. The fans of the second club are being pressed. Only two districts of the city fought back.
    They come to ordinary people with subpoenas and are forced to sign up for fans of the first club and send them to fights in two disobeying areas.
    Naturally, being idiots, there is no government or economy in the city. Poverty and lawlessness. But here the question is what to do to the ordinary person ????
    Organized groups are supported against them with the support of law enforcement agencies, and they are each individually.
    Every single person wanted to go to work, raise children, take them on vacation. And he didn't care about them at all. But the mayor turned out to be a freak, the guys from the neighboring city are generally beautiful - under the pretext of lawlessness they received a group of people called Crimea, but they did not even listen to exactly the same mood, but a much larger and significant group. And when they were beaten with bats, they stood aside compassionately - and in between beatings they fed them "humkonvoy" sandwiches.
    Ay, you can write a lot more.
    But 300 Cossacks (by the way the anniversary was just that) and the avenue of angels in Donetsk - they say that our people are absolutely there. And even more. It is there that our people are being tempered now.
    Instead of leading a refined life buying iPhones, watching "dancing with the stars", reading "Harry Potter"
  28. -1
    April 15 2016 10: 16
    There is no country like Ukraine. There are Russian lands seized by the enemies with the connivance of the corrupt authorities of the USSR and Russia in 91. We will return them for any reason. And we will outweigh all the trash. Only normal Russian people will remain. There is no other way. There is no pity for the enemy .
    1. 0
      April 15 2016 12: 01
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Only normal Russian people will remain. Only it is not otherwise. There is no pity for the enemy.


      I completely agree, one hitch, how will you determine? Again tribunal of triples?
      1. 0
        April 15 2016 22: 29
        So reptiles and triples go.
  29. 0
    April 15 2016 10: 23
    Help cure? -This infection is not treated ..
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      0
      April 15 2016 11: 26
      Quote: Babayka
      Help cure? -This infection is not treated ..


      It is treated successfully. On the Kolyma river with a gold washing pan. Checked.
      Gold reserves replenish the business of every citizen.
      1. +2
        April 15 2016 12: 04
        One question, why haven’t they been cured since the age of 45? Or do you like banderlogs imagine a land without people. In this case, how do you differ from them?
        1. +2
          April 15 2016 12: 22
          In the victorious 45th year, they were caught, they were caught hoping that they would change their minds, planted if they could not think at home. Previously, all these * fighters * were renegades. But then * democrats * came to power and all Nazi ignoramuses climbed out of all the cracks, all the more so they paid for it and appointed some to * heroes *.
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      2. +1
        April 15 2016 15: 05
        This infection, as history shows, is not treated. Many Bandera passed camps, we see the result, after working in Kolyma we brought up a worthy replacement, while taking young people. In 1980 a smart, competent, intelligent guy argued that Ukraine feeds bread all over Russia.
  30. 0
    April 15 2016 10: 25
    For some reason, most people on the forums write "but when the Ukrainians will understand" "but when in Ukraine ..."
    Reading each time these people get the feeling that they are not from the USSR / Russia, or they have already been completely reformatted under the pressure of processing the propaganda of our sworn enemies since 1986.
    For some reason, most people miss, do not notice, do not want to see one simple truth, the truth in the form of Russia's interests. If you look from the point of view of Russia's interests, questions such as "when in Ukraine .." will disappear by themselves. Anyone who raises questions like "when the Ukrainians will understand" a priori puts the fate of Russia in the hands of the Ukrainians. It's rather strange to listen to, but when the Ukrainians will understand, but when America will understand, but when the Europeans will see the light, but when we show the Europeans the truth, they will understand ... you read this and just your head explodes, why do you think (rhetorical question) that all that concerns Russia should happen at the will of Europeans Americans Ukrainians? The author correctly writes that playing along with the Americans "Russia should not interfere in anywhere" is in fact the inevitable defeat of Russia. All the words "but when the Ukrainians understand" or something else they will not do there are nothing more than the main tenet of the US propaganda in Russia that the Russian Federation should not interfere. When you write "when Ukrainians understand / do / do not do" you simply write "Russia fulfills the requirements of the United States and does not interfere in the affairs of Ukraine."

    If we approach the question correctly from the point of view of Russia's interests, then a simple question arises: Union Ukraine or Russophobic Ukraine, what is more profitable for us? of course, allied and the worst for us is Russophobic Ukraine. Unfortunately, we must admit that non-interference in Ukraine’s affairs led to the worst result for Russia, don’t need Coco about the fact that Ukraine suffered the same and is worse, again, by doing this, set up the United States not to interfere with Russia, you will again forget about Russia's interests, putting interests in mind ( good or bad) Ukraine is higher, as if Ukraine were worse; it doesn’t matter at all, it’s only important how much better Russia is. As a result of inaction and non-interference, Russia suffered, but Ukraine also suffered and more, but that doesn’t count.
    In the interests of Russia - an allied state or joining the Russian Federation. It is better to have a 40 million population of allies than 40 million enemies at their borders, this is clear even to a child. In order to achieve the best result, it is necessary to do something that always happens in everything, but to achieve the worst result, you just need to do nothing and pray that it will be done (Ukrainians / Europeans will change their minds). That is, for the interests of Russia, it is simply necessary to intervene in the affairs of Ukraine and not wait for the Ukrainians themselves to understand, the question is not when the Ukrainians will understand, the question is when will we force the Ukrainians to do what is in Russia's interests. The United States, through intervention in Ukraine, forced the Ukrainians to do what is in the interests of the United States and not in the interests of Russia, while the Russian Federation did not intervene.
    So stop discussing when the Ukrainians will die or understand something, this will only lead to even worse consequences for Russia.
    All discussions should be built on what to do in order to force other states to do what is in Russia's interests.
    It is in Russia's interests that, as in the Second World War, the Ukrainian population will fight side by side against our enemies, for now, the Ukrainian population will fight side by side with our enemies against Russia, not because they hate / love us, but because the administrative apparatus is there now under the control of the usa.
    PS: you have to mess with Ukraine anyway, who does not understand this or is completely stupid as a child or a conscious enemy of Russia
  31. 0
    April 15 2016 10: 31
    In general, I agree that we do not need Ukraine. No need economically. In general, nafig did not surrender to her her problems, we have to solve our own!
    But here is the thing, and Ukraine as such does not exist de facto.
    In Ukraine, too, what is happening in Yugoslavia is happening - a multinational country in which not a single nation has ever become state-forming, plus local nationalism of the ruling elite, a bit of economic problems and ALL - separatism and the collapse of the country is inevitable, and the peoples of a previously united country are probably not one generation will not want to live together.
    And do not be delirious that "Ukrainians do not exist" or "the Ukrainian language was invented by the Austro-Hungarians" - this is all a lie.
    Ukrainians really exist, they really have their own separate history and statehood and culture and certainly a language, remember at least the same Taras Shevchenko!
    But this is all "the west of Ukraine", but in the east, as the editors correctly write, Russian People live.
    And this is a problem, because, as we have always been taught Russian Russians do not leave and regardless of era or political beliefs, the constant quality of every truly Russian person to try act with conscience and justice
    And we must admit that we are partially responsible for today's events.
    Therefore, IMHO of course, but if the west politely washes his hands, then we politely must finish what needs to be completed.
  32. +1
    April 15 2016 10: 44
    Nazis from * Zapadentsev * were grown for a long time. In WWI, the Austrians with the hands of * zapadentsev * destroyed everyone who was on suspicion. So it turned out that the population * was reformatted *, try to disagree with the fact that a family with children is practically hostage. Children for whom such a situation is already normal have grown up, and everything repeated with the beginning of WWII. Today the same thing is happening, only not so bloody, more carefully. Here are just a stream of lies incomparably larger and more unprincipled lies. And how to resist it? Not everyone can stand up to the daily crushing of primitive ideas. Moreover, many families have children, and they need to be fed, and so there are * non-opponents *.
  33. +11
    April 15 2016 10: 48
    I want to repeat again about the memory, somehow they really very indiscriminately talk about them ...
    Transcarpathia .... The province, although located in the far west of Ukraine, has always been distinguished by anti-Bandera sentiments, voted in unison with the southeast and regions of the center of the country. The nearby Galicia, its population, traditions and political orientation in Transcarpathia are not transferable.
    A significant part of the population and political elite of Transcarpathia considers itself Rusyns - the fourth independent branch of the Russian people - and, despite the coercion of Kiev, does not want to fit into the Ukrainians, insisting even on the autonomy of the region.
    Well, a puff cake from Hungarians, Slovaks and Poles, compactly living in border regions and focusing on their own states, makes the region not only international and anti-Bandera, but also extremely uncomfortable in terms of the ways in which the Kiev authorities are accustomed to suppress dissent.

    Further "300 Spartans". Among them was a boy who stood "to death", and his older brother, married to a woman from Lvov, stood among those who threw stones at them. Well, what can the "night cuckoo" do it so that Oh! But MOTHERS how to survive all this? Well, they helped her to ferry her youngest son, and all her relatives in Gorlovka, crying, worried, but the ELDER IS WITH A WELCOME NEEDLE. Can you imagine what it would be like to curse your own son? And we have a LOT of such families!

    I will add that many would like to move to Russia, but they do not have such an opportunity. And if everyone who wants to move, WHO WILL MAKE THE ORDER HERE? So it turns out that you CANNOT leave. What people can do. Do you think it is so easy to fall apart at poorly welded seams "new cars" for the front? is it so easy to confuse the APU with the direction of shooting and shoot at the national battalions? It is clear that the media do not write about them (and thank God), enough is enough, Kharkiv residents have trusted, and what did they get? So we are already here on the sly ... a holiday will come to our street!
  34. +4
    April 15 2016 10: 59
    They are brothers and sisters to us, although they are astray.
  35. 0
    April 15 2016 11: 19
    Quote: Normal ok
    I'll say about myself: if Russia decided to restore the USSR in the 90s, I would be the first to go to war for it. And now, 25 years later, no. And not because he became "old and lazy." The train just left. To break now all your life, the life of your children, just to replace the Ukrainian oligarchs with the Russian ones? Kolomoisky to Vekselberg - no, thank you. If you do not understand this conviction of the "Ukrainian Russians", then you will not understand anything about the situation here. You will live with illusions and write articles like "why so" ?. Another thing, I repeat, is the normalization of relations with Russia. This is yes.

    Damn, that’s what it was necessary to print instead of this article, I subscribe under every word, under each letter, if I could put a thousand pluses, but unfortunately I can only one.
  36. 0
    April 15 2016 11: 21
    finally a novel is a good article! And then the latter, for me, are not very
  37. +2
    April 15 2016 11: 44
    The author claims that Russians live in Kharkov. Why do you ask the Russians about this, you ask the Kharkiv people themselves, who are they?
  38. +4
    April 15 2016 12: 01
    Honestly, I want the author - Andrey Skomorokhov, to kick and hurt.
    For what?
    Yes, because he us, who sit here and write, personifies those who make decisions.
    And those who make decisions, who?
    Well, these are not those who are divided into two camps - for and against Ukraine.
    Those who make decisions still successfully do their business in Ukraine.
    Have you heard about Togliattiazot?
    Heard.
    Have you heard about Sberbank and Alfa Bank?
    Heard.
    No one broke with anyone, did not spit, did not slam the door.

    Those. we should not be blamed for the fact that we did not commit, to which we do not have and could not have any relation.
    On an interpersonal and everyday relationship, he was always brotherly to Ukrainians.
    And he talked, and helped, and drank vodka with lard.
    But it is absolutely clear that the rebirth of the nation did not occur in one second.
    Such a reversal - an overdrive, cannot happen after some protest demonstrations.
    There are no such events, with the exception of revenge, when a person, yesterday a peaceful plowman, picks up a machine gun and goes to kill and die.
    And then where are we living on this side of the border to blame for this?
    So the problem lies deeper than we see.

    It seems to me that treatment with hunger for Ukrainians will not work for the future.
  39. +2
    April 15 2016 12: 09
    I wrote more than once and still will write.
    It won't be better with Ukraine. They will not wake up and will not see. It's just that both Ukrainians and Russians will eventually get used to the idea that Russia and Ukraine are not friendly countries and certainly not fraternal peoples inhabit them. It will be about the same as with Poland, only sharper. Due to the closer ties between peoples that existed and still exist. Well, from time to time, relations will heat up. More or less like this. Someone will say that it is impossible to build a country on hatred of another people, and not a stranger at all. And it will be wrong: look at Ukraine, demarcation is taking place before our eyes forever. Is it possible in another way? I do not know. I know that over time Russia will have to take into account Ukraine's hostility in its foreign policy. And the citizens of the Russian Federation will gradually understand that the citizens of Ukraine are really "non-brothers" to them.
    We can only hope that this lesson will be useful to our political "elite" and in the future it will not allow the fraternal country to turn into a hostile one.
  40. 0
    April 15 2016 12: 09
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    70s and 80s in Ukraine especially western
    I especially liked the phrase in Odessa, Nikolaev, Zaporozhye, Kharkov or Kherson, or maybe in Donetsk or Lugansk (it was all Ukrainian then)
  41. +3
    April 15 2016 12: 27
    Those who were born and raised in the USSR in Russia, they think of Ukraine as a fraternal republic and Ukrainians as 2 brothers. "Those who had the good fortune to live in the national republics in the 80s and 90s and were able to return to Russia, they do not consider the "Ukrainians" brothers and understand well that everything that has happened is a LEGAL OUTCOME of the formation of another post of the Soviet country on the basis of anti-Russian identification. Those who were brought up after 1991 live in a different "reality" and understand that there is Russia and there is Ukraine, and that money is apart and all apart.
    Where would loyalty to us come from in Ukraine, when, since the time of Khrushchev, Banderization was spread there. who taught Ukrainian literature and literature at universities and schools? who was the color of "writers and poets"? Where are they from? And when, according to the limit, they were taken to the best universities in Ukraine and Russia, who was pushed wherever they could to the punitive authorities and the CPU? Well, we got what exactly and should have received. Everything else is from the evil one. Are we losing Ukraine? Yes, we never really had it - IT IS THEY (Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, the Baltic States, Transcaucasia, Central Asia) as part of the USSR we had. They received from us, at the expense of the RSFSR they built everything for them, supplied them, etc.
    Take a look at the link http://burckina-faso.livejournal.com/568559.html
    They have only one product - hatred of us - and they sell it with might and main. "Brothers" ......
  42. +1
    April 15 2016 12: 29
    The Syrians did not particularly go to rallies against the Islamic State terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation. And also rushed away from the war. Many thousands. Did they chicken out? Are they traitors and hastaskrayniki? However, Russia is fighting for them.

    Russia is fighting for its geopolitical, geostrategic and economic interests, and the "brotherly" Syrian people, in the list of reasons for the operation of the Aerospace Forces, is somewhere in the XNUMXth place, after the arch from the history textbook. So the same with "brothers-non-brothers" something will have to be restored, because the same interests, but reluctantly and cursing the stupidity of the so-called. the people because of which all this canoe got muddied, all they would have to dream about a freebie and believe in their dreams. And do not groan about the so-called. the people who need to be saved, the guarantor just said just now about the impossibility of saving those who do not want to be saved, and the classics before him broadcast the same thing (the salvation of the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves). All the same, the opponents cleverly muddied it there, they raided - and we rake it up, and all because of the mentality of an average Ukrainian.
  43. -1
    April 15 2016 13: 06
    Is the author used to enduring? His right.
    I propose to make it easier: the author will begin to give 40% of his personal family budget to the treasury of Ukraine. Then we'll see.
    Forgot how you rode? Forgot how they threatened to hang and kill only on a national basis? and such in Ukraine, at least the whole west and half of the central part. Those. 20 million of those who will kill you only because you are Russian. And in the east of the outskirts this is happening. But they got it in tinsel - and immediately began to howl.
    Until 20 million Ukrainians are condemned and executed, the Russian crest is not a man, but an abscess!
    And you, accustomed to enduring and cleaning out other people's toilets, give your salary. And give them your wife and son: let’s see how you sing.

    PS. For several days now, in all mass media, blogs and blozhiks, the "price of one" is being planted. The author clearly wrote for 30 pieces of silver.
    I repeat: the author, first give honestly 40% of your family budget to Ukrainians, give them your wife, and then we will only talk. After 10 years. And while your wife is not raped, you aren’t buried alive and your son isn’t killed and not in the wet land - don’t you dare to write such libel !!!
    1. -2
      April 15 2016 20: 45
      Firstly, who said that it would be necessary to spend 40% of the budget on Ukraine?
      Secondly, you are from the Moscow region - a DONATION REGION LIVING ON THE NECK OF EVERYTHING REST OF RUSSIA. So dear dear man, you first learn how to earn this money that you suddenly ran first to share and decide to whom and how much. By the way, I don’t feel sorry for the restoration of even a Mars of money than in this bureaucratic Moscow a bottomless barrel where the "golden youth" burns billions of rubles they have not earned. Briefly about myself, my city gives 70-80% of the budget to the republican budget, and the people in our city work hard from morning to evening for a penny (while in Moscow they barely sleep at 8-9 am waking up) despite the fact that in Moscow everything is / p is 2-3 times higher, regardless of the difficulty of the work, from where the difference in salary is extinguished by taking money from us simple honest workers, and yes, it would not matter if it were not for your natural desire to count and manage our money. I will only be glad if all the money from the donor regions of the Russian Federation is given instead of Moscow to the DPR and LPR and any region of Ukraine that goes into an alliance with the Russian Federation, there will be any more sense. The budget of my republic also sends from 70-80% to Moscow and for the remaining 20% ​​we live, in the country of donor regions at most 10, and Moscow and the region are the most devouring without any return, and again, we don’t care about this, we are not proud people and Moscow we will provide but tsuk who gave you the right to decide for us where we want to send OUR money?!?!

      And thirdly, such as you screamed in 2013-2014 that there is no need to intervene, let the West finance them, so it will be beneficial for us, and what is beneficial? HOW MUCH RF WITH ECONOMY for these couple of years? but how much did you lose? The Russian Federation has lost up to several trillions, urgently had to build new industries, sharply freezing other areas for an indefinite period - the budget is not rubber, we are current in helicopter production now !! returned to the level of 2013 !!! we lost 3 years and a lot of a lot of money, the Navy missed 3 or more large ships, etc. This is the price that Russia and its people paid after listening to liars who squealed then that there is no need to intervene, they say let the West finance it itself, that's how now you consider NOT YOUR money here.
  44. 0
    April 15 2016 13: 23
    For the author: The EU is disappointed with the results, and not with the situation itself, and if they would have a second chance, they would repeat everything again. And in the relationship, well, whoever was in western Ukraine during the union knows that their attitude towards us was the same. Polish upbringing (influence), ours is, so to speak, this is the southeast.
    1. 0
      April 16 2016 18: 41
      it was necessary to deliver a preemptive strike on the occupying gangs of the Kremlin immediately without hesitation by the forces of the LOAF and Ramstein!
  45. 0
    April 15 2016 14: 16
    Taki cunning cunning author)))))) Is it not Ukrainian Jew by origin ????

    Not an article, but a substitution of concepts and dusting of brains!

    Give your neighbor something to eat, otherwise he has nothing to shit at your door!
    Loans were collected on the "road to europe" and now help. No, you have to answer for your words and actions

    But we will help LDNR, we will certainly help. After all, there the population, unlike the rest of Ukraine, proved to us its kinship
  46. +2
    April 15 2016 14: 40
    We do not need "Okraina", we need: Lugansk and LO, Kiev and KO, Chernigov and CHO, Odessa and OO, Dnepropetrovsk about DO, and so on according to the list, as part of the Russian Federation! and point.

    And all that hisses and bubbles is sent to the reservation, where is the thread on the border with Poland.
  47. +4
    April 15 2016 14: 40
    I don’t know, maybe I’m not quite right, but ... One gets the feeling that we are deliberately pitting their heads against each other. Like someone's order. Whatever one may say - and the Ukrainian media blatantly lie, and ours also often sin. The media constantly writes about bad and backward Ukraine and how they dislike Russians. But in reality, it turns out that these "bad" people are the Ukrainian authorities and a big smelly bunch of thugs, and most Ukrainians are just as normal people. The question is why are they quarreling with us? It seems that on purpose. But who and for what purpose is not clear enough.
  48. +1
    April 15 2016 14: 50
    In the first two weeks of March this year, an anonymous population survey was conducted by order of one of the subsidiaries of PricewaterhouseCoopers in Ukraine. The participation in which was attended by 6438 respondents from all regions of the country, except for Lugansk and Donetsk where the survey was not conducted. People were offered an express test consisting of three questions.

    The first was: “Who would you like to see as the next Prime Minister of Ukraine?” Five answer options were proposed: a). Tymoshenko; b) Groisman; c) Yaresko; d) Azarov; e). Yatsenyuk. Results: 10,1%, 6,4%, 0,5%, 82,6% (!), 0,4% (!!!) - respectively.

    The second was: “Who would you like to see as the next president of Ukraine. Four options were proposed this time: a). Poroshenko; b) Pinchuk; c) Yanukovych; d) Turchinov. Results: 0,2% (!!!), 15,8%, 74,6% (!), 9,4%, respectively. The third was: “Would you like the situation in Ukraine to return to the level of 01.10.2013/99,8/0,17?” Three possible answers: a). Yes; b) Not; c) Difficult to answer. Results: 0,03% (!), XNUMX%, XNUMX%, respectively.

    The numbers speak for themselves.
    Time cures.
  49. +2
    April 15 2016 14: 55
    "Normal ok (5) UA
    Secondly, the situation here is so different from what you see about it on TV that it is sometimes funny, and sometimes sickening, from comments on the site based on this "infe". Let me give you an example. Here is a video of the celebration of the 72nd anniversary of the liberation of Odessa from the German-Romanian invaders. More precisely, this is part of the celebration, there was also a concert. Place of action Kuyalnitsky estuary, s. Ilyinka, date April 10, 2016 ... "

    It becomes nauseous when we watch footage on TV and on the Internet between the old veterans (who came to celebrate the anniversary of the victories of their Red Army during the liberation of Ukraine during the Second World War) and scumbags-Aidarites, Dneprovtsi, etc. a shit! How they are beaten with sticks, sprinkled with ashes and dirt, stripped off Military awards, weaved in the face ... And next to them are civilians, police and, in the best case, they neutrally shrug their shoulders, and even support them with approving cries. And all this in the same Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov ... Chezh your reenactors will not show civic will, courage and will not protect these old people? It’s much more convenient to run around somewhere in the replica pampas and listen to some kind of concert, eat shish kebabs ... Again, mine and I’m clean and good ... I’m ashamed to whitewash ... like such posts, it’s all over the place, mentally fronting, but they really vote for the nationalists. On the site, basically, there are adequate people, and everyone perfectly understands what is happening in the Ruin now.
  50. +2
    April 15 2016 15: 03
    (C) 1) And I have no desire to feed them, it is better to restore Syria.
    2) I think that this time, compassion should not be shown.
    3) This banderostan after the war has already been restored. Sorry for the money and energy of the people who worked there. It would be better if the central regions of the country developed. (C)
    When you read something like that, the question arises about the consciousness of the author of these lines: Is it really so incoherent? How, in his opinion, is Syria more promising than the Outskirts of Rus in terms of restoration? History certainly does not teach anything, it examines. To call not four western regions, but the whole "Ukraine" as Banderstan, is incomparable stupidity. The mistake of the Leader Stalin, first of all, was not that he annexed Western Ukraine, but that he did not take into account the "human factor" in the leadership, which after his death deliberately destroyed the Great Power and the chain was closed on Gorbachert. Yes, and the Leader's excessive softness let down, it was necessary to act with the nationalities like the Anglo-Saxons and other "representatives of the civilized world" with the Indians in America. I am personally against the stupid RESTORATION of other countries at a time when I am not RESTORED after the "capitalist" experiments. This comment is not about my vision of the situation, it is a question for the author of the material about PRIORITIES and connectedness of consciousness.
    1. -2
      April 16 2016 18: 48
      ava09 and who if not terrorist gangs of the Russian Federation seized Crimea and took out equipment, you're thieves-robbed the people of Ukraine and warmed the toilet thief Yanukovych
    2. 0
      April 17 2016 09: 13
      1. To clear our land of creatures (meaning the whole of Ukraine): all who bombed, who bloodthirsty in the Donbass land, escort them to places not so remote without the right to leave for life with the same convoys, only towards the far North.
      2. Everyone who supported the giblets, nudes, who welcomed the war against the Donbass and the Luhansk region, force them to restore everything that Bandera destroyed, providing them only with food until they are fully restored.
      3. With all the oligarchs, having added the Russians, to take money as popular and direct them to restore the devastation not only in Ukraine but also in Russia (Putin does not see what is happening in Russia: after the 90s, devastation is everywhere in villages and cities, there is no progress for the better)
    3. 0
      April 17 2016 22: 01
      Yes, you are kind! Who and when spoke of the restoration of Syria? What nonsense? Syria fulfills its role as a testing ground for weapons in combat conditions. In Syria, it is necessary to destroy militants, destroy them in advance so as not to do this on their own land. I also have kitchen experts.
  51. +2
    April 15 2016 15: 24
    The author of the article seems to have not been to Russia in the 90s, when the country was floundering in a fetid mud, when collapse was simply looming, when crime was off the charts. The question was - to be or not to be. In hindsight, how good it is - we need this, we need that, but were there resources, were there personnel, was there the will to also deal with the neighboring state? Not empty words - the RSFSR fed all the outskirts. In the current situation, when Fashington merges its project, through referendums those wishing to go to Russia, but with a number of at least 60%, then there will be a minimum number of shots in the back, and the choice is CONSCIOUS.
  52. +1
    April 15 2016 15: 27
    Different color pants - the most important. Everything else is superficial, a conspiracy on top of a conspiracy.
  53. +1
    April 15 2016 16: 33
    Mirror "censor-delirium". Nothing more to add. am
  54. +2
    April 15 2016 17: 38
    Quote: Siberian
    This is what a fright you dreamed that Ukrainians are hostile to all Russian. It sounds so stupid that I'm not even going to comment.
    Now about nationality - it is determined not only by the place of origin (territory), but by the culture, customs, traditions, and spiritual values ​​absorbed with mother’s milk and formed by adulthood and consolidated through close communication with the people around you from your ethnic group. As a result, a community was formed that had some differences in the cultural sphere, traditions and even (sadly) in religion - Ukrainians.

    No, Ukrainianism (at least in its current understanding) is a form of national identity in which adherents see their past, present and future in the struggle with the neighboring ethnic group - the Russians. Moreover, in fact, this fight is akin to the American fight against terrorism: it is not the goal that is important, but the process itself. The history of the Ukrainian State originated in the Zaporozhye Sich, which, supposedly holding back the onslaught of the Poles and Tatars with its chest, was forced to fight off blows in the back from Muscovy. Naturally, statehood soon fell, the territory of the “cradle of Ukraine” turned into a colony passing from hand to hand, which, however, continued to courageously fight each of the occupiers (both Hetman Mazepa and Bohdan Khmelnytsky are mentioned here, and the fact of voluntary entry into the Moscow Rus' either denies it or points to Kremlin agents). The key point at this stage is the preservation of “national identity”, which made it possible to throw off the yoke of the hated occupation in 1991. At the same time, the ethnic group of the “colony” managed to settle all the way to the Kuban, which explains the “pre-referendum” territorial claims (which, of course, temporarily faded into the background). Intertwined with this nonsense is the Principality of Kiev, which was “annexed” by Oleg, and the Ukrainians (proto-Ukrainians?) were subjected to the first genocide in history. Well, and so on.... This story was told to me by a 16-year-old Kyivian resident, who studied using certain “general textbooks”, because official state textbooks are “impossible to read” (I’m afraid to even imagine that there are), and therefore claims to be “objective” ", in comparison with the majority of Ukrainian peers, point of view.
    Thus, the future of Ukraine is seen in a war until the complete collapse of Russia and building a happy future on its ruins. Until this happens, they are ready to endure hunger, cold, and other hardships, firmly believing that these are the machinations of evil invaders.
  55. +2
    April 15 2016 17: 46
    Guys, you honestly read your comments and understand that the South-East has no one to rely on. Although the same Yu-G for the Russian defense industry worked like hell for 10 years, 12-hour days. I’m talking about such factories as Yuzh-mash, Motor-Sich, KB Antonov and TD. Do you know the proverb? A spoon is the way to dinner. This is exactly the case.
    1. 0
      April 17 2016 22: 50
      alas, after the death of so many worthy guys “there”, some of whom he knew himself, who were really involved with a heightened sense of justice, there is a huge disappointment, but there is also an understanding that if you do it differently, it will be much worse. All that remains is to wait for the “rotten tree” "will collapse on its own, sometimes helping him in this. Donbass...Novorossiya will not be abandoned, but it simply won’t happen, it just hasn’t happened for a long time...anywhere
  56. +1
    April 15 2016 18: 59
    Skomorokhov writes: “But it is possible to restore what was destroyed. But - together. And in a completely different Ukraine. Ukraine, which, I hope, will exist.” We don’t need Ukrina, only Novorossiya and Little Russia. And let Ukrina and its banderlogs remain outside the borders of the union state. They'll keep jumping.
  57. +1
    April 15 2016 20: 19
    The dream of the Russophobe Kasparov has come true, to divide the country, to set peoples against each other.
    Just as the Russophobes and enemies of Russia dreamed, the Americans still managed to do what they wanted; on all forums in Russia they write that supposedly the Ukrainians are “not our brothers.”
    Today in Russia they write that Ukrainians are not brothers... Tomorrow the United States will seize power in Belarus, Kazakhstan or anywhere, and again the same people in Russia they will write that Belarusians are no longer brothers; Kazakhs are no longer brothers; in the end, these same people will write that Russians are not brothers to Russians.
    In the end, these same people will write to you that we don’t need anyone, not Ukrainians or Belarusians, we’re supposed to do everything ourselves, then they’ll write that we don’t need Tatars, Caucasians and in general that neighboring city and its inhabitants are not needed and in general “my hut is on the edge “No one is needed - only this is the path to complete self-destruction.
    Only in 50% of cases these people don’t actually live and have never lived in Russia, they live in the Baltic states in Germany in the USA in Israel posing as Russian patriots, the remaining 50% are those who went along with it.

    PS: I would be the happiest person if the people of the United States wrote “they are not our brothers” about the people of Canada as we do now about Ukraine, so that the US government would also not interfere in the seizure of power by pro-Russian militants in Canada. But alas, the US authorities are not so stupid and would and will do everything to prevent this from happening.

    PS2: once upon a time our fathers and grandfathers defeated fascism together, together they defeated the common enemy for all of us, and then there were Ukrainians and Russians, but then they won together, You are not, so the question is not about nationality, but about you, the fact that you allowed all this yourself, our fathers did not allow this.
    1. 0
      April 17 2016 22: 52
      a thousand times right hi
  58. +4
    April 15 2016 20: 43
    I read the article... I read the comments to it...

    Roman, as the author of the article, will briefly tell you about the possibility of “re-educating” the so-called Ukrainians...

    Firstly, I come from Kuban, and my last name ends with “KO”, although the nationality “Russian” was always written on my birth certificate and in my passport at that time... Apparently, my last name is from somewhere far, far away times...

    That's not the point...

    My first wife, a Ukrainian, was from Eastern Ukraine (he got married while he was serving there), and even worked in the city committee of the CPSU...
    My father-in-law is a reserve major, a former political worker (!!!), he joined the party in 1937 (!!!)...
    Everything seems fine, everything is fine...

    And suddenly in 1991 (thank God, I was already serving in Central Russia) “everything got mixed up in the Oblonskys’ house”...
    Both my father-in-law and my wife suddenly (!!!) became ardent Russophobes, they also began to train my son... In general, I became the word that is prohibited in VO --- "...y.k.koy" and "k.a.ts.ap.p.om"...

    In general, nothing good...
    I have had another family for a long time... And my ex-wife and son continue to live in Central Russia (!!!), having absolutely no friendly feelings towards her...

    Well, who and how will we re-educate???
  59. +2
    April 15 2016 20: 45
    How often do we rush from one extreme to another? But life is never two-tone. It is more like a rainbow - all colors are present.
    What is happening in Ukraine?
    1) Power belongs to the oligarchs who have no nationality, they only have money and irrepressible greed. They trade their country to become even richer.
    2) The purpose of the association with the EU is to make the country a market for European products and duty-free transit to the Russian Federation.
    The Russian Federation did not allow the second part to be implemented, which is why they imposed sanctions against us - the West always achieves its goals. If we don't wash it, we'll just ride it.
    3) To ensure the achievement of its goals, the West used the most vile force - it organized the fascist-Bandera movement; only by fascist methods could it be forced to fight against the people of its country. And the West did it. A pro-American oligarchy that came to power using fascist methods was in power in the country.
    Think about it and evaluate what the policies of the US and the EU are.
    4) People are always different.
    For some, this was an opportunity to change their lives, and they supported the new government.
    Others understood what this elite was leading to, rose to defend the country, and ended up either under bullets or under repression.
    Still others continued to survive as best they could. Maybe they soberly assessed the situation. Can you blame them? I think no. Let's be pragmatic. Even one traitor is enough to destroy hundreds of lives. And there will always be one. Unorganized, unarmed people, even if there are a million of them, are helpless against the armed army, against terrorists. This is not about the SBU, they are also residents of the country, and many of them are not fascists, but the SBU is controlled by the CIA, and this is a different structure, other opportunities and possibilities were used to suppress mass protests.
    Let's look at the group that supported the new government. It is not the most numerous. In addition to the scumbags who were previously trained for terrorism and who received their freedom, there is also a younger generation who was brought up in the spirit of permissiveness, the offspring of Bandera’s half-dead followers. Commentators suggest hanging them - it won't work. If another government comes to the country, the absolute majority of them will renounce their participation in the crimes, they will pretend that it was not them who did it. As a blogger, it seems that Grachev, having realized that you can make good money in Russia, got a job at NTV. That's all their ideology.
    There will be no need to hang Bandera - they simply won’t exist. It’s not for nothing that they all walk around with their muzzles covered so as not to be held responsible.
    4) About Russia’s participation in the fate of Ukraine. In reality, the Russian Federation is not able to help in any way. The state of affairs in the country was clearly demonstrated by the Direct Line. Employees of three enterprises included in the list will be able to receive their salaries. The rest are not. And with this business, our leadership claims that the country will develop? Russia really has nothing to offer Ukraine. The greed of the Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs does not differ significantly. That is why the shelling of the LDPR and the outright violation of the Minsk agreements by occupying the buffer zone are kept silent.
    We still sing the mantra of integration with the West. For pity's sake, there is no one there to negotiate with; they supported the American-fascist coup in Ukraine and are singing about democratization based on fascism.
    We also have a huge number of unemployed young people who want to have everything and do nothing. They work by lying their way into closed entrances, deceiving and robbing people on vacation from work, the elderly and disabled - and they consider this the norm. They are not among the unemployed; there is no point in registering for them. Their purpose is to deceive. What can this rabble do? Yes to anything. So how can we help Ukraine? A country with about 20 million people. our people, the descendants of those who fought in the Second World War, who restored and developed industry in the Ukrainian SSR.
  60. +6
    April 15 2016 20: 51
    Bye, let all the noble people come to Donbass and live here for a while. They will take their family along, and then feel the love of the Ukrainians. If this nation, when they are told about hundreds of dead Russian soldiers in the Donbass, rejoices at this, and their explanation for the murders of people in the southeast is: “they went to a referendum.” You know, I've seen enough. When we were thrown out of the Kievsky station because they didn’t want minibuses to Donetsk, they were an eyesore. It’s good to sit warm and comfortable and talk about politics from afar. Just let all those who rush to the defense of Ukraine, arguing: “we were the same in the 90s. Not everyone there is like that, but only the Nazis. We must wait until people sober up - they’ve been brainwashed,” etc., think about that the Ukrainian army would happily destroy every Russian city. They would have done the same thing as with Donbass and would have been pleased with themselves. If these creatures bombed hospitals, schools, shot at houses, what are we talking about? And all this is being done with the permission of the people of Ukraine. I repeat once again - they would be happy about the death of the Russian family, your family. Remember the reaction to the death of a girl in Konstantinovka. They crushed that rebellion and released the scum that crushed the girl. And after this, all that massacre in Donbass, Odessa - all that Ukrainians care about is visas to Europe. Visas and which prime minister could not maintain the standard of living. All.
    1. +1
      April 16 2016 14: 49
      In the same way, you can write about Russians in the 90s, there were Nazis too, and they rejoiced at many abominations, but some people still rejoice, so what? Now is this a reason to say that all Russians are scum? This is clearly a reason for you.

      THE FACTS ARE FOLLOWING:
      1) the junta came to power through an armed seizure of power, NOT THE CHOICE OF THE PEOPLE.
      2) PEOPLE’S ELECTIONS as such were not there, but there is open terror and the destruction of all those who disagree.
      It follows from this, firstly, that you and others like you don’t know the opinion of the population, and secondly, that those who claim that Ukrainians are so bad and attribute to them all the sins of the junta, you are in fact either *you or those same rejoicing scum inside Russia (nkoshniks and so on.).

      3) The Ukrainian Armed Forces did not take part at the very beginning; some at the very beginning even went over to the side of the DPR and LPR. You personally know about this, of course! but I remember perfectly well what happened and how, but you don’t, YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND IS HAPPENING THERE, that’s why you write the nonsense that you write.
      4) Immediately after coming to power, the junta was unable to send the army to suppress, the army did not carry out orders, therefore, from the first days, a “pravosek” was sent to each unit with the authority to shoot anyone at its discretion, in addition, they were sent to each large formation 1-2 jeeps with foreigners, CIA or mercenaries, they didn’t get out of the cars, they didn’t light up. This was the situation in the early days. Do you know about this? NO KANESH! YOU DON'T KNOW THE FUCK.
      5) Despite this, the army still resisted, so there were cases of riots and shootings, some were included in the video, I remember very well the video where unarmed military men stood against 5-10 people in black, clearly not military, with weapons that were used against anyone who disagreed, In the video, they shot at the legs of a crowd of dry land workers and dispersed them. In addition, almost all the officers were fired; some left on their own; in their place, ideological officers were appointed who were ready to kill Russians and their colleagues in the name of p*dostan. THE CLEANING OF THE ARMY was in full swing.
      6) But even after the purge against Strelkov, for example in Slavyansk, the army did not particularly participate where it was supposed to “did not come”, which is why the first assaults were not by the Armed Forces of Ukraine but by the SBU with the support of mercenaries. Yes, it was the long resistance of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that led to the fact that the junta was forced to use a huge number of foreign mercenaries in the first stages.
      And now the question! If to suppress resistance, the junta relied on a handful of Nazis and a huge number of foreign mercenaries What the hell are you saying here that the Ukrainians were all happy about the death of the Russians?


      The facts show that the army and the people resisted for a very long time and they were broken over the knee for a very long time, but sooner or later the purge is completed and the fact that now there is a direct work of purge, a purge that can turn everyone into ideological communists and even ideological Martians is a matter of current whoever is doing the cleaning. Anyone who thinks that the people are able to do at least something in such a situation, go from, firstly, in the 90s, citizens of the Russian Federation themselves could not do anything in the Russian Federation, secondly, no one has ever in history been able to do anything in such a situation without external support, and the pro-Russian people in Ukraine had no support; in Odessa they came out and just chopped the hell up and burned them, that’s all.

      Everything is quite simple, everyone who writes about Ukrainians saying that they are all bad, why the hell are they ALL scribblers or NGO people whose task will force the people of the Russian Federation not to interfere in the affairs of the United States, even in Ukraine and even in Russia itself, or if not NGO people then completely stupid people who they know what’s going on only from the blogs of corporate employees of “US agents of influence.”

      The truth is that what is happening in Ukraine was NOT done by the PEOPLE of Ukraine and NOTHING depends on the people there, not to understand this despite all the facts is to be an idiot.
  61. +2
    April 15 2016 21: 36
    Quote: Siberian
    I would probably not put the label “hopeless” on the whole nation. There are a lot of sane people, especially in the central and eastern regions of Ukraine, including in Transcarpathia. Here either (decades) recovery will take place, or antagonistic sentiments will intensify and lead to the further collapse of this state.

    I agree completely.
    And there are plenty of freaks in swamp Moscow too. Only you poison them with dust, but we ended up with a disinfectant in our laps, it’s a pity.
  62. +1
    April 15 2016 22: 40
    So, getting into Ukrainian affairs is not something that God himself commanded, debt tells us. The duty to those who plentifully watered this land, freeing it from evil, very similar to the one that sits today in the power of Ukraine. It is necessary.

    Absolutely right. But this does not mean putting them on your neck. You need to intervene in the process, influence it, but under no circumstances buy. Help, yes. Let them get out on their own.
  63. -1
    April 16 2016 03: 59
    There, after the collapse of the union, they stole so much..... They simply stole it, getting fabulously rich from it. And now they want Russia to restore again. Dudki, du.. do.. chki. AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT US BROTHERS AND WE ARE OURSELVES is nothing to say.
  64. -1
    April 16 2016 08: 54
    Well, citizens, I will say my word and I, as the brightest representative, will note! - Ukrainian nation.
    Knowing your fellow tribesmen, as they say, from the inside, I will say right away - all your dreams of re-educating this tribe of baboons are doomed to failure. Take the entire South-East and close the rest until they themselves die.
  65. +1
    April 16 2016 15: 03
    Please note that under the flags of the USA, Canada, Britain, Ukrainians, and other countries, some dubious “personalities”, supposedly super patriots of Russia, are promoting all the same things, so that the Russians do not interfere in Ukraine, that they say Ukraine itself is to blame and Ukrainians are not brothers. Coincidence? Of course no.
  66. +2
    April 16 2016 18: 06
    Quote: Ozhogin Dmitry
    I don’t know, maybe I won’t be entirely right, but... It feels like we are being deliberately pitted against each other. Like someone's order. Whatever one may say, the Ukrainian media blatantly lie, and ours also often sin. The media constantly writes about bad and backward Ukraine and how they don’t like Russians. But in reality, it turns out that these “bad” ones are the Ukrainian authorities and a big stinking bunch of scumbags, and for the most part Ukrainians are just as normal people. The question is, why are we quarreling? I think it was on purpose. And here who and for what purpose little is clear.


    "Divide and rule" - the favorite slogan of the Anglo-Americans! [media=http://alexandr3.livejournal.com/1631609.html]
  67. 0
    April 16 2016 18: 10
    It's a simple matter - take everything and divide it...
  68. +1
    April 16 2016 18: 11
    Quote: Ozhogin Dmitry
    I don’t know, maybe I won’t be entirely right, but... It feels like we are being deliberately pitted against each other. Like someone's order. Whatever one may say, the Ukrainian media blatantly lie, and ours also often sin. The media constantly writes about bad and backward Ukraine and how they don’t like Russians. But in reality, it turns out that these “bad” ones are the Ukrainian authorities and a big stinking bunch of scumbags, and for the most part Ukrainians are just as normal people. The question is, why are we quarreling? I think it was on purpose. And here who and for what purpose little is clear.



    "Divide and rule" - the favorite slogan of the Anglo-Americans!


    The Anglo-Saxons ALWAYS try to FIGHT WITH THEIR HANDS, PLAYING THEIR ENEMIES. WE ARE THEIR ENEMIES!
    Look at the root!
  69. +1
    April 16 2016 18: 48
    In 2017, Ukraine will finally receive compensation from Russia for Crimea - a new 200-ruble bill with the image of Sevastopol.
  70. +1
    April 16 2016 18: 50
    Ukraine is a constructor state, revived only thanks to the Russian Empire and the USSR. This must be understood. Hybrid, Golem, whatever you want to call it. During the expansion of the Empire, we artificially glued new regions to Little Russia. “Russian Spring” gave Russia a historic chance to return the pro-Russian population of the state of Ukraine, cutting off the regions with Svidomo. We could correct the mistake of 1991. But they corrected it by 30 percent. Crimea is ours. A piece of Donbass seems to be pro-Russian, but the trends there are not encouraging. The rest of Ukraine is lost to us. You can flood Svidomo with cheap gas, loans, dough - but for them, it will always be “b”’s fault for everything. There is no cure for this. Diagnosis: take the pro-Russian population, cutting off the Banderaites and other Svidomo to support the “democratizers”. Whoever dances a girl feeds her.
  71. 0
    April 17 2016 03: 05
    After reading all the comments, including those from Ukrainians, I was once again convinced that normal, ADEQUATE people are sitting here. Indeed, all the negativity comes from the zombie box. Let's unite and be friends!)
  72. 0
    April 17 2016 09: 12
    I do not agree that we should restore Square. To do this you need:
    1. To clear our land of creatures (meaning the whole of Ukraine): all who bombed, who bloodthirsty in the Donbass land, escort them to places not so remote without the right to leave for life with the same convoys, only towards the far North.
    2. Everyone who supported the giblets, nudes, who welcomed the war against the Donbass and the Luhansk region, force them to restore everything that Bandera destroyed, providing them only with food until they are fully restored.
    3. With all the oligarchs, having added the Russians, to take money as popular and direct them to restore the devastation not only in Ukraine but also in Russia (Putin does not see what is happening in Russia: after the 90s, devastation is everywhere in villages and cities, there is no progress for the better)
  73. 0
    April 17 2016 14: 45
    Who is Skomorokhov going to re-educate? Who to help? Well, well. The grave will correct the hunchback! request
  74. 0
    April 17 2016 18: 38
    There is no and never was a nation of Ukrainians - there were Russians - Little Russians in eastern and central "Ukraine" and Westerners. I don't agree with the author - no matter how much you feed the crests, they were, are, and will be jackals. The whole question is about saving the Russians in Little Russia, the rest went on.. geyropa.
  75. 0
    April 17 2016 19: 08
    Play? How many were covered. It would probably be more correct to say dance, and in any style, this beauty.
  76. 0
    April 17 2016 21: 55
    There is no desire to even discuss it. Some kind of Tolstoyanism. I don’t want any Mr. to get his hands in my face. If you wanted freedom, then let them eat it by the handful. Stop feeding all this scum. And I don’t care what nationality this scum is. What kind of idiots do you have to be to allow God knows who from all over the world to lead the country? Couldn't you find any smarter ones? Are they all complete idiots? In the program “Right to Voice” I look at these “representatives” and think: “Well, why are they called here? Why are they organizing a booth? Don’t these sheep themselves understand that they are being presented as zoo inhabitants?” Donbass, Lugansk region are primordially Russian lands, as well as the entire southeast along the Dnieper to the Black Sea. We will take everything that belonged to Russia, but only without “our little brothers,” we don’t need all sorts of OUN members and other crap. So I wouldn’t discard the option with tanks.
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  78. 0
    April 18 2016 00: 07
    ""Ukraine, which I hope will happen.""

    He hopes... Why do we need this? From this Frankenstein-like state formation, Russia has not seen a single kind word or useful deed in all 25 years... Any talk not only about the state, but about “Ukrainianism” in general is harmful and divisive. Those who continue to consider themselves “Ukrainian”, despite the fact that it has long been known when, who, with whose money and for what purpose came up with the idea itself and formalized it, let them go to serve the lords and magnates, as they did for a couple of centuries, until Russia did not press the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and liberated Little Russia from them.
  79. ZIS
    0
    April 18 2016 00: 57
    I didn’t go into details of the article; I don’t have time to live. But, clearly, Ukraine should not even have such a word left. Little Russia can and should be helped, but everything that Ukraine does is against us and is alien to us. I lived there and I know what I'm talking about. I left there, along with the land on which I was born and live. I considered all the pressures imposed by Russia to be correct, even though they were hitting me. When the people there understand that it is not they who are being punished, but the elite, then it is worth going there.
  80. 0
    April 19 2016 16: 28
    Quote: GYGOLA
    I just don't blame anyone. And I guessed what you wrote.
    the emergence of the DPR and LPR in fact, judging by the cunning planes, generally arose contrary to Russia and its authorities
    But they arose. Others did not succeed ... then ... now they won’t hi

    Here you are right, now nothing will happen, the United States has firmly taken control over all of Ukraine, for the emergence of the Kharkov People's Republic, Russia's support was needed at the very beginning of the uprising, there was no support and the Americans simply quickly suppressed them, in Odessa the especially stubborn ones were simply killed. And the DPR and LPR, here the people themselves rebelled against fascism, the fascists came to Donetsk by bus and beat up the locals in front of everyone, the local golden eagle organized itself and set up checkpoints not allowing these Banderaites to pass, if not for this, the fascists would have walked around the city and killed everyone who is against the junta and not it would be DPR.
    In general, the story is this, the Russian authorities did everything so that there would be no DPR and LPR so that the junta would win, but at the same time the junta did everything so that the junta would lose, unfortunately there was a 3rd player - the USA who did everything so that the USA and the junta would win, hence the result as victory of the junta. hi

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