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Once again to the issue of the “Fiumsky incident”: archival documents against ... “Wikipedia”! (part of 2)

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So, we continue to study the content of the report of Admiral Mankovsky, and this is what he writes next:


“19,20,21,22,23 and 24 number The detachment was engaged in boat exercises in the morning. In the evening of 22, full illumination was lit, on which the Montenegrins responded by burning bonfires on the mountains, arranging them so that the inscription read: “Live Tsar Nicholas II.” The governor hosted a lunch on the shore for the officers of the Detachment, which was answered by a lunch for the coastal authorities on the “Tsarevich”. Two days was very fresh, so I had to stand under steam. When the crew left the beach, the local population met them very cordially, and they were given a free treat of cigarettes, beer, fruits, etc.


The flagship battleship "Tsesarevich", 1913, Portland.

24 of the number of hours in 6 hours of the evening I, as stated above, returned to the "Tsarevich".
25 Augustus in the morning was a boat doctrine, and after half a day they took on the luggage of the Grand Dukes NIKOLAI NIKOLAEVICH and PETR NIKOLAEVICH and their families. On this day, he arrived at his Palace from Antiwary, King Danilo. In the evening, the illumination was lit on the ships, and missiles were fired.

26 in the morning in 10 in the Grand Prix , and on arrival at the "Crown Prince" the flag was raised on it, and mine was moved to the "Rurik". At the II o'clock of 21 minutes, the boat landed at the pier: HIS MAJESTY King Nicholas I, Korolevichi DANILO and PETER, and the Montenegrin Standard was lifted on it. The detachment flourished with flags and saluted to Standard. Upon the arrival of the King to the "Crown Prince", the Standard was raised on it next to the flag of the Grand Duke. Following the King, the retinue's faces and guests arrived. At II o'clock 5 minutes in the Admiralty premise of "Cesarevich" breakfast was held on 20 persons. At 1 o'clock in the afternoon, the Grand Duke proclaimed a toast to the health of Field Marshal of the Russian Army King Nicholas I, after which the ships fired 56 shots. At I o'clock 19 minutes of the day HIS MAJESTY King Nikolai I and Korolevich Danilo and Petr, followed by their retinue and guests invited to breakfast, went ashore. On the "Tsesarevich" they launched Shtandart, and the ships fired a shot at the 30. At the first hour of 21 minutes, on the orders of HIS MAJORITY, a signal was raised: "HIS MAJESTY The King of Montenegro gladly welcomes the St. Andrew flag in the Black Sea waters and wishes him victory and glory." In 40 hour. 2 minutes detachment left the anchor and went to Fiim. In addition to those brought to the Antivari Detachment, the passengers on the “Cesarevich” were Grand Prince PETR NIKOLAEVICH with his wife MILITSEY NIKOLAEVNA and his daughter MARINA PETROVNAYA. The fortress made a salute in 30 shot, to which the "Tsarevich" answered with an equal number. In 21 hour. 2 minutes the detachment was built in the wake column and made the move 45 nodes required for the advance arrival in Fima, no later than 14 hours of the day. In 4 hours of the evening "Tsarevich" on the orders of the Grand Duke lowered the flag of the Grand Duke and raised the brand - pennant.

27 of the first hour of the day "Tsesarevich" launched a brand - the pennant of the Grand Duke and my flag was moved from "Rurik" to "Tsesarevich". Upon arrival on the raid of Fime in 2 hour. 30 minutes "Tsesarevich" exchanged salute at 21 with a coastal battery, and at 2 an hour. 45 minutes anchored in line along the mall in the same places. Admiral Makarov set east of the others. Between 3 an hour. 50 minutes and 5 hours Grand Duke Nikolay NIKOLAEVICH traveled round the court of the detachment and thanked the officers and the team. On each ship ITS IMPERIAL MAJESTY was visited by officers' mess-cabins. At 6 hours, a farewell dinner was held at the “Cesarevich”, at which, apart from me and the staff of the Headquarters, the commanders of all the ships of the squad were invited. In 7 hour. 10 minutes The highest passengers with a retinue went ashore, where a special train was waiting for them at the harbor embankment. In 7 hour. 25 min. The train started moving. I conducted THEIR IMPERATIVE HIGHLIGHTS from the harbor to the train station, where the cars occupied by them were attached to the express train going to Vienna.

28-th in 6 hour. The 30 minutes into the morning came the Austrian cruiser Kaiser Karl VI under the flag of the full Admiral. At 8, the hours exchanged fireworks with him and at the same time sent with congratulations the Flag Officer, who on his return informed that Admiral MONTEKULI was on the cruiser. After ½ hours, an Austrian officer arrived on the "Cesarevich" with a return visit, who reported that the Admiral was on the coast and would return around 10 hours. Since there were no hours at 10, and I had previously agreed to go ashore to visit the coast, I went to the city with Flag Captain, accompanied by the Consul. Visited the Head of the Academy and the Marine Station Counter Admiral Edler von Kunsti, the Sea Governor and the Mayor. I returned about II ½ hours. At II o'clock 45 minutes arrived to us with a return visit to the Governor and at the same time returned to the Austrian cruiser Admiral. After the departure of the Governor and the salute to him, in 12 hours with the Flag-Captain and the Commander of the "Cesarevich" went on a visit to the Austrian cruiser. I was met on the ramp by the Headquarters Officer, who said that the Admiral could not accept me, as he was having breakfast and his guests. At this time music played on the shkanzah, but not a march, but some aria did not stop playing even when the boat landed on the ramp. When I rolled off, I was not fired. Upon returning to the ship, I ordered during the return visit of Admiral MONTEKULI to say that I was not at home, not to call the music and not to produce the salute. At about 3 hours to the ladder on the motorboat arrived Admiral MONTEKULI. He was met at the bottom of the flag-captain ladder and told me that I was not at home. The admiral asked me to convey that he had not saluted me, since there was rest during my visit, and asked him not to salute. After waiting for the salute before sunset and not receiving it, and knowing that the cruiser was going to leave at night, I sent the Flag Captain to his Commander or the Flag-Captain, if there was one, with a statement that I had not received the salute. The flag-captain found the cruiser ready to leave in half an hour, but the Commander was still on the shore, and therefore he handed over my order to the Senior Officer with a request to inform him of the subsequent order through an officer. After ½ hours, an officer arrived from the cruiser and said that the cruiser remained until morning and would make a salute at 8 hours.

August 29 th in 8 hours of the morning the Austrian cruiser made a salute in 13 shots with the rise of the Russian flag on the fore-sténgue, then withdrew from the anchor and left.
At 2 o'clock in the afternoon 30-th coal ship I came from Souda, a coal coal mine that I called from there, chartered for the detachment with 4000 tons of cardiff coal, and after completing the port formalities immediately went to Admiral Makarov. At 1 o'clock in the afternoon, “Admiral Makarov” began loading coal and by 2 at night it received 500 tons.

31-th in 6 o'clock in the morning coal miner approached the "Tsarevich", which immediately began to take coal from it. At 3, the cruiser “Admiral Makarov” released the court in the hour of the day after saying goodbye to his personnel.

During both stops in the Fiyme, due to the inconvenience of receiving water from the shore on the boats and the lack of local water-filled vessels, steam aquarius, which came both times from Paula, was placed at my disposal free of charge.

For the month of August every day, except for the period of celebrations in Montenegro, classes were conducted both with students by non-commissioned officers, and with ship's midshipmen. The state of health of officers, naval midshipmen and crews is satisfactory.

Counter Admiral Mankovsky "


A copy of the decrypted telegram of the head of the Baltic Detachment Counter Admiral Mankovskogo from Fiyme from 9 August 1910 of the year No. 137.
Maritime Minister.
Yesterday I made a visit to the Austrian Admiral Montekukuli, I was not accepted under the pretext that the Admiral had breakfast for his guests. When rolling off salute is not received. Three hours later I gave a visit, I did not accept, saying through the Flag-Captain that I was not on the ship. The admiral said that he had not saluted me because of the rest time and asked him not to salute. After waiting until the flag was lowered, I demanded a salute, which I received today at 8 in the morning.
Details by Ambassadorial Valoza №137.
Mankovsky.

And of course, the main source of information about how a huge Austrian squadron came to the raid and threatened three of our ships, and our "sailors slept without undressing, cannons all night," should be ... the watchkeeping journal of the battleship Tsesarevich.


Cover of the logbook of the battleship Tsesarevich.

This document is also available in the funds of the RGA Navy and it has a number - 42514. Let's open it on pages 71 through 76 and read, and how it all was in reality, as the watch officers of this ship saw, what orders they received and carried out, and what generally happened in the port. We read ...

Saturday 28 August 1910 on a barrel in the Fiume road under
on September 10
mid-admiral's flag from midnight

1.30 In the galley began to make fire
4.00 Under steam, boilers No. 6 and 7.
5.00 Fired couples on a steam boat №3
5.30 woke the team
6.30 Start tidy morning
6.55 Came from the sea and embarked on the anchor of the Austrian cruiser "Keiser Karl VI"
7.00 Утренний рапорт (0-3-8-32-66-21-50-55-24-22-0)
Admiral Signals (2,0, Z) (3)
7.30 Fired couples on a steam boat number 1
Under the steam boilers № № 6 and 7.
Signature is illegible

8.00 Raised the Austrian flag and fired 17 shots to the Austrian admiral's flag on the cruiser Carl VI
Austrian cruiser saluted 17 shots.


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Saturday 28 August 1910 on a barrel in the Fiume road under
on September 10
mid-admiral's flag from midnight

8. 10 Admiral Signals (10)
8. 35 Collection. Lit the team to wash the boat accessories
9. 30 Lowered the motorboat
11. 30 have finished all work
11. 45 Accepted Aquarius
11. 45 Ceremonial gathering for inspection team neatness
Couples in boilers №№ 6-7.
Signature: Lieutenant ... (more illegible)

Saturday 28 August 1910 on a barrel in the Fiume road under
on September 10
mid-admiral's flag from midnight

12.00 Ships in the roads: under the pennant armored cruisers "Rurik", "Admiral Makarov", the cruiser "Bogatyr", the Austrian-armored cruiser "Carl VI" under the admiral's flag. Wine and (illegible - auth.).
12. 05 Saluted the 17 shots to the Austrian governor
1. 30 Tea
2. 00 They fired 7 shots to the Russian consul. Fees. Lit for work, one branch in the bath.
3. 55 Finished work. Haircut and shave.
Under the steam boilers №№ 6.7.
Signature: Lieutenant Schmemann

4.05 have finished all the work
5.00 Raised Prayer Flag
Divine service began (Vigil)
5.55 Graduated from the service.
6.00 Wine and Dinner
6.30 Admiral Signals (370) (4)
7.30 Air out the decks. Batten bulkheads took the right anchor under the plus.
7.50 Admiral Signal (OPNNXX) (9YA)
Under the steam boilers №№ 6.7.
Omitted: 5.30. steam boat №3 in the harbor, at the approach of the steamer, broke the bulwark of the Italian barque.
Crossed out "finished all work" and
The corrected on this page (4) is considered to be torn out.
Signature: Lieutenant ... (more illegible)

Saturday 28 August 1910 on a barrel in the Fiume road under
on September 10
mid-admiral's flag from midnight

8.00 Prayer Distribution Beds
8.30 Raised Six # 1
9.00 Shut down galley
11.05 Stop Couples on Boat # 1
12.00 Stop Couples on Boat # 3
Under the steam boilers №6 and №7
This number is taken bread 36 white poods
Potato 90 Pounds, Onions 3 Pud 30 Pounds
Fresh cabbage 3 pounds, tomatoes 30 pounds
Signature: Lieutenant Baron Mirbiev

Sunday 29 August 1910 on a barrel in the Fiume road under
on September 11
mid-admiral's flag from midnight

Under the steam boilers №6 and №7
4.30 On the boat number 3 began to breed pair
5.30 Wake-up, on the boat number 1 began to breed pair
6.00 Prayer, breakfast
7.00 Утренний рапорт (0)(3)(8)(34)(54)(20)(250)(27)(24)(22)(0)
Started the morning tidy
7.10 Admiral's Signal (20 I) (4)
Boilers under the steam №6 and 7
Signature: Lieutenant Teton

The same 28 August 1910 table on a barrel in the Fiume road under
on September 10
mid-admiral's flag from midnight

8.00 The Austrian cruiser Erz Gerzieg Carl VI was anchored and sailed into the sea. Salute 17 shots produced.
8.35 Signal Admiral B 8 AND
9.00 Team Collection and Inspection
9.30 Raised Prayer Flag
10.00 Arrived at Tsesarevich port commander and mayor of the city
10.30 Lowered Prayer Flag
10.40 Departed from the "Cesarevich" Port Commander
Salute 13 shots
10.45 Ceremonial gathering
Xnumx to blame and dine
Under the steam boilers №6 and 7
Crossed out (0) is not counted.
Signature: Starley A.Domitrov.

So, the terrible squadron of the Austrians and dissolved like smoke, no one, without undressing at the guns, did not sleep, nobody opened the cameras, no shells attacked the guns, was not going to die for the flag. Just two admirals have a little quarrel - well, sometimes. And you see what some “writers” have made of this, what they have turned this fact into. Well, in conclusion I would like to say that our Russian история and so glorious and feats, and examples of service of honor and duty, so that without even looking at the available archival documents, lie shamelessly about her, and even spread this lie in Wikipedia, and so disgrace yourself and your great country all white light!
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  1. sevtrash
    sevtrash April 21 2016 07: 12
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    Any source of information is subjective in nature and cannot be true by definition, but which can be approached by studying several / all of the primary sources. Different people will reflect the same event in different ways. So, in order to get reliable information or to realize that it is truthful enough, you yourself need to work hard. And this will also be a subjective look.
    And Wikipedia is convenient - information about almost everything is at hand, there are no links, information is changing, and now it is probably the main source of general information. Of course, not without mistakes. The good news is that the author can help change the erroneous information about the Fiume Incident on the Wiki, making it known to everyone. It would be a good idea to look elsewhere for information on the Austrian view of this incident.
    1. brn521
      brn521 April 21 2016 10: 19
      +1
      Quote: sevtrash
      What's good - the author can help change the erroneous information about the "Fiuma incident"

      Well, yes, in principle. It requires a link to external sources, which will be the role of this article. But there is another point. According to rumors, some changes in the articles the Wikipedia administration is rolling back without explanation. Therefore, I wonder how it will turn out this time.
      1. kalibr
        April 21 2016 11: 02
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        I do not know how to embed texts on Wikipedia. I leave all this to those who can! The main link to archival affairs is.
    2. kalibr
      April 21 2016 11: 04
      +1
      Well, about the Austrian view ... And where are the documents? The patchwork monarchy was divided, cut, burned, attached, liberated ... I don't even know where to go and what kind of "grandmother" it will get. But ... actually you got me interested. I'll have to try.
      1. brn521
        brn521 April 22 2016 11: 31
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        Quote: kalibr
        I don't even know where to go and what kind of money it will get.

        This is an example I wrote. It seemed to me well-known some features in the construction of Wikipedia. For example, there even Einstein himself could not write an article on the theory of relativity. First you need to write an article, post it on reliable sites (so that the link to it lasts as long as possible) and only then, based on this link, write an article on Wikipedia.
    3. Turkir
      Turkir April 22 2016 22: 27
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      Any source of information is subjective.

      That is, the logbook is something like Walter Scott’s novels?
      Or the results of the Postdam Conference, the Nuremberg Trials, etc.
      I do not really understand your idea.
      When you write: "It would be nice to look for sources of information about the Austrian view of this incident" - it is clear that you are talking about researching the issue and this is the right approach.
      But if you use your own logic, then this research can also be called "subjective" and walk in a vicious circle in search of truth.
      That is, the whole question comes down to the existence of objective truth, which in your opinion does NOT exist.
      This is not a scientific approach.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik April 21 2016 07: 53
    +5
    Thanks, dry language of documents ..
  3. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer April 21 2016 10: 09
    +4
    Excellent research, documented. A piece of Russian history.
    1. brn521
      brn521 April 21 2016 10: 23
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      Quote: DimerVladimer
      Great study

      I remember that as for Panfilov’s, the author also had a study involving official documents. There were many swearing, not all myths should be tried to debunk, sometimes it is better to leave something for narrow circles. But as for me, this article does not apply to such cases.
      1. kalibr
        April 21 2016 11: 00
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        About political instructor Klochkov, see the article in the journal Homeland No. 2 this year. You will find there a lot of interesting things for yourself!
        1. brn521
          brn521 April 22 2016 11: 22
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          Quote: kalibr
          About political instructor Klochkov, see the article in the journal Homeland No. 2 this year. You will find there a lot of interesting things for yourself!

          I didn’t know anything about this political instructor before. And so, in the memoirs from the series "I fought ..." for example, there are many interesting moments. For example, there was one very cowardly pilot. When redeploying on fighters in the assault version, with nourses, they were attacked by enemy fighters. He was so scared that by mistake he blurted out the entire ammunition load of the Nurs. Shot down two planes. He was given a hero. According to an eyewitness, this was the most cowardly hero that can be. I couldn't fight at all. Perhaps exaggerated, she is such envy, I do not know.
          But the legend is beautiful, agree. In one gulp, two planes to tear down, so much so that only fragments in different directions. After such even single missiles, the Germans became even more afraid. On the same U-2, part of the missiles was placed directed towards the tail, to scare away fighters.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 21 2016 16: 10
        +1
        Quote: brn521
        There were many swearing, not all myths should be tried to debunk, sometimes it is better to leave something for narrow circles.

        Dangerously.
        Such myths have a very bad tendency to "shoot" their exposures at the most inopportune moment. And their debunking pulls a plume of dirt along with it, which also falls on real historical events (and the longer the myth is exploited, the more dirt its exposure will pour on history).
        Once lied, who will believe you?

        The same canonical myth about 28 Panfilov men who died, but did not let the German tanks pass ... if he had been quietly forgotten right after the war, right after the case of twice policeman Dobrobabin, he would now be classified as "war propaganda", like the sinking of "Ark Royal "by Corporal Franke or Ram" Haruna "Kelly. And, being promoted by GlappPUR, he served as one of the cornerstones for revisionist historians who constantly cite him as a lie in official history. And now the myth about 28 Panfilov's men casts a shadow on the entire division and on the battles near Moscow.
        1. brn521
          brn521 April 22 2016 11: 11
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          Quote: Alexey RA
          being promoted by GlapPUR, it served as one of the cornerstones for revisionist historians

          So this is not only our business, that’s what you should understand. The Pantheon is a necessary thing, especially in the army. That in a difficult situation the fighter had a lively example before his eyes. The Japanese, for example, even erect monuments to the heroes of the enemy, and give an example. And there are denunciations everywhere. In the same states, there are a lot of books and articles that shake up and bring to the clear water almost the entire history of the United States, presidents, etc.
          Why is the Panfilov myth bad? Illustration of the fact that in a difficult situation you can stand to the end and practically win. Whereas, in fact, fighters in such conditions scattered or surrendered. In general, without propaganda and myths is not possible. Do not raise a soldier, patriot, or at least a citizen.
          1. kalibr
            April 22 2016 22: 14
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            You never raise a citizen in a lie. Because sooner or later something or someone will open his eyes to him and then beware - people do not like to be deceived!
        2. Cro-Magnon
          Cro-Magnon April 22 2016 19: 46
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          And what is the myth ?! And what casts a shadow ?! Let's cancel all the heroes only because, for the sake of convenience and the convenience of military propaganda, something in these exploits was not described so! The next step is to cancel our victory, because there were traitors and defeats of 41 and 42 years ... that way you will be carried far! In general, whose revisionist are you pouring water into whose mill?
          As the great warrior Svyatoslav said: "the dead have no shame ..." So it's not for you to touch those heroes that are dead and cannot answer you ...
          1. kalibr
            April 22 2016 22: 12
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            Where did you find the heroes in Fiume? Bowing to each other and giving visits to admirals? Fallen overboard a sailor who was taken by the whole squadron? Those who burned fires in the mountains and shouted: Long live Tsar Nikolai!
            Remember: a lie is a religion of slaves and masters. True - God is a free man!
  4. Sascha
    Sascha April 21 2016 16: 13
    +1
    Not a military campaign of the squadron, but some pokatushki, with a caramel on the cheek. For the entire trip, one big boat exercise, and another forced (for half an hour) - when the sailor fell overboard. Well, they also dragged Slava in tow ... They took coal, water, and provisions. Everything else - "Three steps to the left, two steps to the right", - hurray, hurray, their highnesses arrived with their majesties. The Grand Duke has arrived - the Grand Duke has departed. We paid a visit - a return visit - a return visit. Gala Dinner - a return gala dinner, dinner for gentlemen officers with champagne, lunch ashore, lunch in the palace. They burned fires and launched rockets. They bowed to the left, bowed to the right, once again everyone bowed in unison .... One and a half thousand poods of gunpowder were spent on fireworks.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 21 2016 16: 28
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      Quote: Sascha
      Not a military campaign of the squadron, but some pokatushki, with a caramel on the cheek. For the entire trip, one big boat exercise, and another forced (for half an hour) - when the sailor fell overboard. Well, they also dragged Slava in tow ... They took coal, water, food. Everything else - "Three steps to the left, two steps to the right", - hurray, hurray, their highnesses arrived with their majesties. The Grand Duke has arrived - the Grand Duke has departed

      It's just that they usually write briefly about routine activities:
      In August, every day, except for the period of festivities in Montenegro, classes were held, both with students as combatant non-commissioned officers, and with naval midshipmen.

      In addition, the Black Sea Fleet became the RIF's artillery school after the RYV - it was there that "Panteleimon" shot its main guns and guns, bringing the firing tables of 12 "and 6" guns in line with objective reality.
      1. Sascha
        Sascha April 21 2016 18: 36
        +1
        Well, we went to Montenegro on a courtesy visit, well, hugged with my little brothers, well, the sheks in front of the Austrian admiral puffed. But at sea, they could have carried out combat firing, completed the BWS, and conducted three or four fire drills. And so, they ditched a lot of money, spent equipment life, and all this for the sake of some members of the reigning house living on an armadillo, as in a floating hotel. It seems that the busiest were .... a couple of commandants at the Tsesarevich’s salute weapon ... They worked the whole campaign tirelessly.
    2. kalibr
      April 21 2016 17: 12
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      Yes, you know, when I read it I was amazed just like that. It seems to be "harsh naval service", "tsarist derzhimordy" - officers, "Remember the war" by Makarov. But in fact - the couples were lit on a boat, the couples stopped ... whistling to the wine. The sailor fell into the water ... He made a visit, accepted a visit - beauty! And you will take a closer look at how the events are recorded in the logbook. You can't tell, with mistakes, hastily and somehow! Even the name of the Austrian cruiser - note - each watchman wrote as he wanted! "What's the difference?!" Such was the service. Why did you lose two wars in a row?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 21 2016 18: 23
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        Quote: kalibr
        And you will take a closer look at how the events are recorded in the logbook. You can't tell, with mistakes, hastily and somehow! Even the name of the Austrian cruiser - note - every watchman wrote as he wanted! "What's the difference?!" Such was the service.

        This means only one thing - the service was carried out properly, and the logbook was filled "in real time".
        Beautiful magazines are dangerous because they are often filled out after the fact. Here, for example, how things were with the logbooks of our submarines in the Second World War:
        The logbooks consisted of XNUMX-page hardcover books, each page of which was a form to fill out. The officer in charge was in charge of filling the VZ, and for the correctness of conduct, by the first officer. With this in mind, the officer in charge, as a rule, did not fill out the journal during the shift, but after it was completed on the basis of working notes that he kept during the shift in his workbook.

        And about mistakes ... so, at all happens.
        "The Tribunal of the 9th Army issues sentences that are difficult to announce in orders due to gross illiteracy in terms of language. I ask you to immediately send the Chairman of the Tribunal to the 9th Army, who could write the sentence in Russian competently so that it could be announced without blushing in the order of the military council "
        (c) Leo Mehlis
  5. Sascha
    Sascha April 21 2016 18: 43
    +1
    Can someone explain why, when the Grand Duke raised his flag on the flagship, the squadron commander lowered it, and raised it on Rurik. Did he provide his cabin and go aboard Rurik? Or did he still stay on Cesarevich? Why then did his flag move without him ?? What two flags could not be raised, like, I have on board the Grand Duke and the squadron commander.
    1. kalibr
      April 21 2016 19: 51
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      This is necessary for knowledgeable sailors to ask!
    2. carbofo
      carbofo April 21 2016 22: 23
      +1
      It is not allowed to put the admiral’s flag next to the king’s. And since the admiral does not have the right to leave the king, his flag as a squadron commander is hung on a ship of the next rank.
      And this whole topic is connected with the protocol traditions of the naval ones, they patronized them very jealously, and the slightest deviation from the protocol caused a violent reaction.
      As far as I remember, anyone who enters a ship is required to ask permission, regardless of rank.
  6. baudolino
    baudolino April 22 2016 08: 13
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    The material is interesting, thanks to the author. But making Wikipedia a scientific authority is somehow too much.