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Space Ukraine: the entrance to the dense layers of the atmosphere

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Beautifully, with real confidence in the future of Russian cosmonautics tomorrow, we celebrated 55 years since the beginning of the space era. And in connection with this I would like to say a few words to our former comrades in the conquest of outer space. And part-time neighbors.


Space Ukraine: the entrance to the dense layers of the atmosphere


And really, to face the truth, could Gagarin’s flight have taken place if it were not for the hellish work of those who created everything that was necessary? Is it possible to forget a whole galaxy of talented and brilliant scientists who were born and raised in Ukraine?

Judge for yourself.

Korolev Sergey Pavlovich. Zhytomyr No comments and merit credits. Simply: the great Korolev.

Budnik Vasiliy Sergeevich. Semenovka Chernihiv region. First Deputy Chief Designer and Chief Designer of OKB No. 586 ("Yuzhmash) from 1951 to 1968. Head of the group that studied German rocket technology.

Glushko Valentin Petrovich. Odessa. One of the pioneers of rocket and space technology, the founder of the domestic liquid rocket engine. Chief designer of space systems (with 1974), general designer of the reusable space-rocket complex "Energy - Buran".

Reshetnev Mikhail Fedorovich. Barmashovo Mykolaiv region. Under his leadership or with his direct participation, about 30 types of space complexes and systems were developed. The number of satellites developed from the 1959 to 1996 years into the orbit of the satellites created by the enterprise he heads (NPO Applied Mechanics) is more than 1000 units.

This, as they say, "cream". About the thousands of people who worked at the Yuzhmash and Khartron design bureaus, for the time being, I just don’t even want to talk, because it is somewhat offensive. And for them, and for the country.

Yes, and the astronauts also did not cheat Ukraine.

Pavel Romanovich Popovich. Uzin city Belotserkovsky district of Kiev region. Vostok-4 and Soyuz-14. The participant of the first group flight of the spacecraft (together with A. Nikolaev at the Vostok-3) and the commander of the first manned flight of the orbital station (Salyut-3).

Georgiy Timofeevich Beregovoy. Fedorovka village, Karlovsky district of Poltava region. Soyuz-3.

Georgy Stepanovich Shonin. The city of Rovenka, Lugansk region. Soyuz-6 together with Valery Kubasov. Simultaneously with them, the flight of the Soyuz-7 (Anatoly Filippchenko, Vladislav Volkov and Viktor Gorbatko) and the Soyuz-8 (Vladimir Shatalov and Alexey Eliseev).

During the flight, the world's first docking of ships in space was carried out with the transfer of astronauts from one ship to another. Also for the first time in stories The Soyuz-6 crew recorded the launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile from one of the Soviet landfills and tracked the target of a training warhead in a given area.

Vladimir Afanasyevich Lyakhov. City Anthracite Lugansk region. Soyuz-32, Soyuz-T9, Soyuz-TM6. He participated in the first ever super-long flight (175 day) and installation of the world's first space radio telescope, MCT-10, delivered by the Progress-8 cargo ship.

Leonid Denizovich Kizim. City Red Estuary Donetsk region. Soyuz T-3, Soyuz T-10 and Soyuz T-15.

Leonid Ivanovich Popov. City Alexandria Kirovograd region. Soyuz-35, Soyuz-40 and Soyuz T-7.

Vladimir Vladimirovich Vasyutin. Kharkov. "Union T-14".

Alexander Aleksandrovich Volkov. Gorlovka Donetsk region. Soyuz T-14, Soyuz TM-7 and Soyuz TM-13. In total, spent in space 391 day 11 hours 53 minutes and 16 seconds and the first man of the planet Earth, three times made a spacewalk.

Anatoly Semenovich Levchenko. Krasnokutsk, Kharkiv region. "Union TM-4"

Anatoly Pavlovich Artsebarsky. Village Prosyanaya Pokrovsky district of Dnipropetrovsk region. "Union TM-12".

It is now the past. Glorious, but past.

Then, in the past, enterprises throughout Ukraine forged not only the missile sword of the Soviet Union, but also built a space future. And they were rightfully the flagships of space engineering. Deservedly.

And let's remember what inheritance went to Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR! All, except, perhaps, the United States, could envy. Production of launch vehicles, satellites, flight control center in Evpatoria. And the science base? But what about the formed existing programs “Land Launch”, “Sea Launch”, “Dnepr”, “Rokot”?

It was on this basis that the Brazilian-Ukrainian Alcantara cosmodrome project (Cyclone-4) was created. The plans were to create a national satellite constellation.

And where is everyone? Yes, it is impossible to imagine, but for the most part this is already gone. The cursed legacy of the totalitarian communist regime has sunk into oblivion along with the regime. And over the years 25 turned to dust.

In all the years of independence, only three satellites were launched. Rocket projects for a strange coincidence were not brought to the final result. Unless, of course, the charming fireworks, arranged by the Ukrainian RN at Cape Canaveral, are not considered the end result.

Brazil stated that in view of Ukraine’s failure to fulfill its obligations, it is leaving the Cyclone-4 project. The Ukrainian orbital constellation of satellites will not be either. It is quite obvious. Mission Control Center in Evpatoria was abandoned, and then lost.

By the way, the only thing from the heritage of the USSR, which suddenly turned out to be the future, is Evpatoria MCC. He was "found" and is now being restored at an accelerated pace. But already in Russia.

Ukraine ceases to be a space power. In 2015, the entire 2 launch of Ukrainian launch vehicles was carried out. One “Zenith 3SLB” and one “Dnepr”. And with the cessation of military space cooperation, the need for those enterprises that were still assembling units for Russian vehicles and rockets was no longer necessary.

Welcome to the developed and independent Middle Ages?

Leonid Kadenyuk, the first, and apparently the last astronaut of independent Ukraine, who flew as part of the American program, and now the president of the Aerospace Society of Ukraine, 12 of April gave an interview to Segodnya.

Several excerpts from the text:

"Unfortunately, the state does not realize how important this industry is for it, because high technology is the engine of civilization development.

But the status of one of the few countries in the world with a full cycle of production of space technology (such around 10), we have saved.

We are not preparing astronauts right now: it costs about $ 150 million to send one to an international station as part of a combined crew.

The flight, which I made, took place by agreement of the two presidents, it cost Ukraine nothing, and the experiments were mutually beneficial.

And now our biologists are working on topics for experiments, only there is no one to carry them out. "


But the opinion of experts "Ukraine.Ru":

Alexander Dudchak:

“Ukraine has recently entered into a very limited list of countries that have a full cycle of spacecraft production - there were a total 5 of such countries. And I could now celebrate Cosmonautics Day as a holiday, to which even today it is directly related, and not just as about something that happened in the past. In cooperation with the Russian Federation, we could continue the launches of the Dnepr conversion rockets (SS-18 Satan), but cooperation has been curtailed through the fault of Ukraine. And just recently, in 2007, Dnepr launched 14 spacecraft into space right away! Ukraine is practically excluded from the Sea Launch program. Ukraine has stopped deliveries to Russia of elements of the control system of the upper stage of the rocket, which was produced at the Kharkov Khartron plant, and, therefore, Ukraine’s participation in space programs will be curtailed. Russia plans to switch to Soyuz-2.1 and Angara-1.2 missiles. The return from space to earth will be final for Ukraine. And all this - the consequences of the Maidan ... "

Alexander Okhrimenko:

“April 12 for the Dnepropetrovsk rocket men is a sad holiday. Veterans who survived in their time off not only the rockets they created, but also the entire industry, are sure: the state of Ukraine is not interested in the development of space. Previously, Yuzhmash earned income mainly due to the maintenance of Dnepr missiles. They are now on duty in Russia. But with 2014, Ukraine interrupted military cooperation, and therefore there is no income. "Sea Launch" has long died. Stayed project "Antares" for the United States. But he is weak and poorly funded. For 2015, one starter carrier was hardly sold in the USA. There is a “Vega” project for the EU, but it is also developing poorly. For the first quarter, 2016 Ukraine sold space technology to Belarus for the sum of $ 1,5 million. Even it is difficult to understand what it is. Probably something from the components ... "

Space Ukraine confidently enters the dense layers of the atmosphere. What follows at the end of this process, I think, everyone knows. The fact that, in fact, Ukraine’s current owners have determined for Ukraine is the place of the agrarian vassal.
That is what Ukraine was before the damned communists began to turn it into an industrial “monster” and a space power.

I am sincerely sorry for those Ukrainians who created and launched space vehicles, and today turned out to be practically out of work. It is possible that the new Queen, Reshetnev, Popovich and Lyakhovy still be born in this country.

However, in order for Zhytomyr boy Sergey to become a great Queen, it must be a completely different country.
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  1. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 14 2016 06: 34
    +39
    Sheep! After all, they also have the right to be proud! But the owner does not need their pride, and in the end they imposed on them the dubious "pride" of Bandera and Shukhevych, whom, in principle, no one really knows and does not want to know either in Ukraine or in the world. And the name "Gagarin", I'm bursting with emotions! Gagarin is Gagarin!
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 14 2016 09: 13
      +14
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      After all, they also have the right to pride! But the master does not need their pride

      I think that my peers, grandfathers from those who still worked in Soviet space, the day before yesterday they raised Gagarin for "sotochka". So their mentality is different, they did not ride on the Maidan. They survive on a beggarly pension and at home, in the kitchen, they scold Porosenko and the gang. AND "skakly maydanutye" - they just scream that space is all Ukrainian, and in space, as such, they salivate. For them, Makhnovism and Bandera are more important. She is not THERE, above - she is HERE and now.

      Their rabbit during the premiership "earned" a billion on Ukraine. Even to mark this matter was smart enough. Is it too bad to send six guys into space for that billion? It will also stay for life quite decently ...
      1. Kunar
        Kunar April 14 2016 11: 43
        +2
        I remembered the army)))) The flyers had a sentence)))) "Planes fly in pairs, Ukrainians fly with Tatars .....))))))))))))))
        1. Aryan
          Aryan April 14 2016 11: 49
          +23
          The list at the beginning of the article is the great people with the citizenship of the USSR, not Ukraine
          No dirt ...
          1. Roman Skomorokhov
            April 14 2016 13: 02
            -3
            But they were born in Ukraine ... There is no dirt, only a statement.
            1. Uncle
              Uncle April 14 2016 13: 33
              +10
              It is not clear why sometimes they mock Ukraine. A piece was torn from us, the enemy succeeded, they sent their puppets to control, and we laugh. We are talking about the brotherhood of nations, actually one nation, then we brand them in every way. There are not all kakly, Svidomo and so on.
              1. Sirocco
                Sirocco April 14 2016 16: 11
                +5
                Quote: Uncle
                It is not clear why sometimes they mock Ukraine.

                What remains to be done? when the minority crushed the majority who believed that their hut was on the edge, in the end it remained to laugh through tears.
                Poroshenko reminded me of the hero of a famous film, that’s all that remains of a great cosmic power.
                Yes, yes, it was the powers that first collected Satan at the Pavlograd Mechanical Plant (a branch of UMZ), and then in the 90s under applause destroyed the production, with the money of an American company located in the city and monitoring the complete destruction.
              2. opus
                opus April 14 2016 17: 03
                +7
                Quote: Uncle
                . There are not all kakly, Svidomo and so on.

                I agree with you.
                But (!) There are a lot of mutants there (in Ukraine), and they (unfortunately) rule the ball there

                Quote: Uncle
                That is talking about the brotherhood of nations

                As for the "brothers", the question, according to mine, was resolved in 2014?


                Their entire country (both mutants and non-mutants) applauded, rejoiced, sang songs, well, remember "** to Khgilyaku", "who does not jump .." and so on.
                IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE A LITTLE PREGNANT.
                Well, or paraphrasing:

                climb on the tree and do not * tear off;
                and eat the fish, and **** "oh sorry" (do not choke).


                This is the international concept of MFA:
                i‿ˈrɨpkʊ‿s̪jesʲtʲ‿i‿n̪ä‿xʊɪ̯ (j) ‿sʲesʲtʲ
                / Threat to the moderators, please do not ban me (7 already have bans), this
                literary expression

                https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/

                Yes, and WORLD CLASSICS WRITE SO:

                And eat the fish, and ... oh, sorry. S. V. Lukyanenko, Spectrum
                / I recommend reading by the way, one planet "fakyu" (Marge) is worth what,

                or "Bread" is the same ...
              3. trantor
                trantor April 14 2016 17: 27
                +3
                Quote: Uncle
                It is unclear why sometimes they mock Ukraine.

                Since she scoffed at herself with us, with all desire, it will not work.
              4. lastjoke
                lastjoke April 14 2016 18: 42
                +1
                Better to treat with laughter than with a club.
                The clever ridicule will understand and, if it is the case, forgive. He will also say thanks.
                But to a fool that laughter, that a club - will help neither one nor the other.

                But laughter will cost us ourselves cheaper :-)
              5. NordUral
                NordUral April 14 2016 18: 59
                0
                That's it, tears, not laughter from such a situation.
              6. KRIG55
                KRIG55 April 14 2016 19: 05
                +1
                We don’t laugh, we cry and regret the lost. But in order for them to sober up, you need to give them the full capacity to sip everything that they deserve.
              7. user
                user April 15 2016 10: 49
                0
                It is not clear why sometimes they mock Ukraine.


                Yes, not at Ukraine they mock, but at how it is possible for one promise of "lace panties and the EU" to involve an entire nation in a civil war and destroy, as I believe, the most tasty morsel of the collapsed Soviet Union. Well, I don't know what else to add to that.
            2. panych
              panych April 14 2016 18: 34
              +1
              It is still necessary to think. When the heroes were born and when their small homeland became part of Ukraine.
            3. n.kolesnichenko
              n.kolesnichenko April 14 2016 23: 53
              0
              Born in the USSR on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR !!!
        2. lubesky
          lubesky April 15 2016 23: 43
          0
          Quote: Kunar
          I remembered the army)))) The flyers had a sentence)))) "Planes fly in pairs, Ukrainians fly with Tatars .....))))))))))))))

          How many sayings today, but what did the Tatars not please? Easy you, sir, paint the people. Look, once you can be weighed and considered unfit ... An article on the heritage of our common, and not on the role of nations in the history of Russia. It would be embarrassing for the Tatars to open their mouths, learn the mat part of Natsik ... and I myself am a Tatar, it never occurred to me to pronounce such a saying, otherwise it will turn out that you don’t know the meaning of the saying. Well, of course, the night barracks - this is not to knock on the keyboard
      2. Persistent
        Persistent April 14 2016 17: 59
        +2
        And weak for that billion to send six burnt lads to space?

        I answer that it is "weak" to take them to the ISS !!! They will plunder everything, sell it out and drink it as well as their country !!!
        1. Anglorussian
          Anglorussian April 14 2016 22: 36
          +1
          The compartment under the tire will take. And the fat in the tubes is already kind of natural.
  2. Evgesh91
    Evgesh91 April 14 2016 06: 44
    +3
    why do they need rockets, they, along with the owners, will be launched from the trampoline smile
    1. bocsman
      bocsman April 14 2016 08: 37
      +20
      Where did the designers, astronauts, workers at the factories come from, and indeed the enterprises themselves and design bureaus? Not a single Ragul Zapadensky! And since now their power is cosmos in a famous place. A pig looks at the sky once in his life, and then when they put it on his back so that his guts can be released! And so, the trough, slop, etc.
      1. forester
        forester April 14 2016 08: 48
        +11
        Drawn - most of the listed settlements Ukrainian made artificially therefore not Ukrainian
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  3. parusnik
    parusnik April 14 2016 06: 46
    +9
    The Ukrainians still do not understand ... what the West ... they as a developed economic power are not needed ... sold their happiness for a barrel of jam and a basket of cookies ...
  4. Stoler
    Stoler April 14 2016 06: 48
    +6
    What nafig rockets? They are jumping so high and proud.
  5. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx April 14 2016 06: 50
    +6
    Space Ukraine confidently enters the dense atmosphere. What follows at the end of this process, I think everyone knows
    Now they’ll only fly like that ..
  6. Press 314
    Press 314 April 14 2016 07: 05
    +11
    "That is what Ukraine was before the damned communists began to turn it into an industrial monster and a space power." every time he read this author, it hurts the ear that he considers Ukraine to be a separate state. At that time there was 1 country - the USSR. And I was never interested - where does a person come from. And now if Klitschko was born in Alma-Ata, then Kazakhs should be proud ???
    1. Totalwar
      Totalwar April 14 2016 08: 41
      +6
      Quote: Pers314
      reading this author, it hurts the rumor that he considers Ukraine a separate state. At that time there was 1 country - the USSR. And I never wondered - where did the person come from. And now, if Klitschko was born in Alma-Ata, then the Kazakhs should be proud ???

      True, why do such authors give in their own way the Soviet past, which was radically different in comparison with modern realities ?!
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 April 14 2016 07: 18
    +11
    You don’t know anything about the first astronaut of the planet! Here are the most accurate and truthful information, directly due to the Europae Val laughing :
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS April 14 2016 12: 06
      +6
      This is when the Smolensk region was part of the Ukrainian SSR? Creators completely stupefied.fool
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 14 2016 23: 45
      +2
      Quote: inkass_98
      You don’t know anything about the first astronaut of the planet! Here are the most accurate and truthful information, directly due to the Europae Val

      And why is Gagarin not "Ukraine" written on the General Staff? To the heap. In Ukraine, nobody knows how to use a photo-toad?
  8. nivander
    nivander April 14 2016 07: 21
    +9
    Gagarin - tse Ukrainian astrinaut according to Urukhai agitprop
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 April 14 2016 07: 38
      +6
      And I didn’t know. They opened my eyes to the truth. Crying from tenderness (s). fool
    2. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian April 14 2016 22: 38
      +2
      Bob Marley also seemed to be a Ukrainian ...
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A April 14 2016 23: 49
        +3
        Quote: Anglorussian
        Bob Marley also seemed to be a Ukrainian ...

        It’s good to eat, and Obama’s Ukrainian roots are being found. But Hitler, not otherwise, was a mos .. (well, you understand) and with Bandera-Shukhevych well, never had nothing to do ...

        Rzhu already falling from a chair over ukrovskoy propaganda three-wheeled cart ... laughing
  9. Naval
    Naval April 14 2016 07: 23
    +9
    “When the Lord decides to punish someone, then he deprives him of his reason,” says the popular wisdom. It looks like the urks have sinned.
  10. EvgNik
    EvgNik April 14 2016 07: 50
    +3
    If you add up all the jumps of Ukrainians over the past 2 years (I mean the height of the jump), then, perhaps, they will be on Mars, or even farther. It's time to put in the book of records. This energy, if sent to a peaceful channel - Ukraine would still remain a cosmic power. Not fused.
    1. 1rl141
      1rl141 April 14 2016 13: 00
      +1
      Quote: EvgNik
      If you add all the jumps of Ukrainians over the past 2 years (


      They are unlikely to jump to Mars. But the Earth will be displaced from orbit for sure ... They’ll jump like that for another 10 years, you’ll look and the Earth will be next to Mars. They’re the greatest astronauts! Nobody thought of such a thing!
  11. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 April 14 2016 07: 52
    +2
    You all do not know and do not understand anything. the outskirts of the great cosmic power. (Don Pedro said that, but he is not good for them). She even forbade the satellites of the Russian Federation to fly over her territory. And since it is banned, then there is something to prohibit. laughing
  12. Siberian
    Siberian April 14 2016 07: 56
    +2
    It is interesting how many scientists from the Ukrainian space industry have moved and work for the good of Russia, and how many emigrated to the United States? Is there such statistics or not?
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 April 14 2016 07: 58
    +11
    "Is it possible to forget a whole galaxy of talented and brilliant scientists who were born and raised in Ukraine?"

    That's just not in Ukraine, but in the USSR.
    1. Siberian
      Siberian April 14 2016 08: 01
      +3
      I fully support you. At that glorious time there was no division by nationality - there was one SOVIET MAN.
  14. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. April 14 2016 08: 04
    +6
    but nevertheless, this year the so-called. "Ukrainian-Polish working group on the use of outer space". Two great space powers shared space?
    Anyway - go to the site of Yuzhmash - at xoxlov everything is nishtyak! laughing
    1. goose
      goose April 14 2016 10: 06
      +2
      Quote: Pinky F.
      go to the site of Yuzhmash - at xoxlov everything is nishtyak!

      From Yuzhmash there were miserable fragments, soon completely closed, and nishtyak? A small angle really works.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 14 2016 14: 33
        +3
        Quote: goose
        Quote: Pinky F.
        go to the site of Yuzhmash - at xoxlov everything is nishtyak!

        From Yuzhmash there were miserable fragments, soon completely closed, and nishtyak? A small angle really works.
        smile
  15. Arkan
    Arkan April 14 2016 09: 03
    +3
    Yes, all the achievements of astronautics were ineptly lowered into the gutter. The low intellectual level of the Ukrainian "elite" (farmers, hucksters) ruined the remnants of the Glorious past of Soviet Cosmonautics. Tsukeriki is several orders of magnitude clearer than the carrier "Dnepr".
  16. cesar65
    cesar65 April 14 2016 09: 08
    +6
    However, in order for Zhytomyr boy Sergey to become a great Queen, it must be a completely different country.
    I think that many visitors to the site regret that they destroyed this country.
  17. Katman
    Katman April 14 2016 09: 08
    0
    I alone do not understand well what kind of Dnepr missiles are on alert in Russia? Of course, if you imagine for a short while that the Dnieper is still something for Ukrainians (as well as for Russians (not Russians)), then nostalgia is understandable. Where have you been before?
  18. oreh72
    oreh72 April 14 2016 09: 47
    +9
    "... we celebrated 55 years since the beginning of the space age."
    Dear Roman! You were a little mistaken - we celebrated 55 years of manned flight into space, and the beginning of the space age is considered to be from October 4, 1957 - the launch date of the first artificial Earth satellite.
  19. xorgi
    xorgi April 14 2016 09: 48
    +6
    Correct the author. Most of the people he listed were born in the Russian Empire, and therefore the residents of some regions have nothing to do with Ukraine.
  20. Sochi
    Sochi April 14 2016 09: 50
    +3
    Yes. there were people - pioneers ... Honor and glory to them! And I am proud that one of them is my uncle (though a second cousin) - Pavel Romanovich Popovich! And the fact that the Hohlohunta destroyed everything that all of us born in the USSR were so proud of was their problem ... Russia remained the LEADING space power !!!
  21. goose
    goose April 14 2016 10: 03
    +3
    I watched an American documentary about space. There was a moment about the operation of Mir station. The Americans, being included in the crew of the station, were very outraged that half the cost each launch of the Progress truck - about $ 2 million, unfastened by Ukraine for the use of an automatic drive for docking. (The entire launch of Progress cost less than 5 million at those prices). It was a real blackmail in a joint program, taking advantage of the fact that there was no time to develop an analogue. Inflated prices for use.
  22. Stena
    Stena April 14 2016 10: 08
    +3
    The article is not correct. Most of these people were born in the Russian Empire and lived in the USSR. It is not at all correct to focus on their nationality (this sounds especially surprising within the framework of the Soviet Union). I hoped that the article would carry out some kind of analysis - "it was-became" with a quantitative justification, as well as options for further existence. And in the end, the article turned out - apparently, the same as astronautics in modern Ukraine ...
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 14 2016 19: 07
      +1
      I think that it was said so out of pity for the people of the Outskirts. We are all from the Union, even children born after the 91st year, their mothers and fathers are still Soviet. I never had anything to the USSR, but now I understand that the creation, namely the creation, of the Union republics was a mistake. I think (from my low bell tower) that it was necessary to leave the imperial division of the country. Many troubles would have been avoided.
  23. Belousov
    Belousov April 14 2016 10: 26
    0
    Well, nothing, now they will be accepted in the EU, despite the will of the Dutch bribed by treacherous Putin, and again they will all get hurt.
  24. Irbenwolf
    Irbenwolf April 14 2016 11: 15
    0
    with real confidence in the future of Russian cosmonautics

    This is after the workers at the strategic plant are not able to properly connect the wires to the box? Is it too loud about confidence?

    Rather, the cosmonautics in Russia is in a state of stagnation, when it is no longer possible to go to the old reserve and it is time to make decisions on global financing of the industry and a claim to primacy, or to "eat up" the remnants of former luxury and quietly crawl into the bushes.
    1. PKTRL
      PKTRL April 14 2016 14: 09
      +1
      IrbenWolf LV

      Rather, the cosmonautics in Russia is in a state of stagnation, when it is no longer possible to go to the old reserve and it is time to make decisions on global financing of the industry and a claim to primacy, or to "eat up" the remnants of former luxury and quietly crawl into the bushes.


      I disagree, no one is frozen, and we do not "eat up" anything (common talk). There are already "hot-cooked" products. And now they are born ... hi
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  26. Dimy4
    Dimy4 April 14 2016 11: 51
    +1
    The cursed legacy of the totalitarian communist regime has sunk into oblivion along with the regime. And in 25 years it turned to dust.

    What we do not store, having lost ... we jump.
  27. Putnik_16
    Putnik_16 April 14 2016 12: 07
    +3
    So what of this, that all these respected people come from
    Ukraine is not from this fascist but from our Soviet native.
    We were proud of them and will be proud !!! soldier
  28. iouris
    iouris April 14 2016 12: 23
    +6
    The history of Russia and space exploration is not divided.
    Today the word "Ukrainian", used in political polemics, means the Euro-Nazi way of thinking, not nationality, and the word "Ukraine" means "Protivorossiya". When we overcome all this, we will return to the original meaning of these concepts. If this is not overcome, then there will be neither Russia, nor Ukraine, nor space.
  29. gunya
    gunya April 14 2016 12: 33
    +1
    IrbenWolf LV

    Rather, the cosmonautics in Russia is in a state of stagnation, when it is no longer possible to go to the old reserve and it is time to make decisions on global financing of the industry and a claim to primacy, or to "eat up" the remnants of former luxury and quietly crawl into the bushes.


    Unfortunately, I have to agree. As long as the "effective managers", and also ineffective ones from the government, are chased with a filthy broom, it is difficult to count on changes.
  30. Nicola Bari
    Nicola Bari April 14 2016 12: 54
    +2
    born and raised in Ukraine


    Here is one of the most basic mistakes that Russians make - they separate Ukraine from Russia. Ukraine is just a part of a great state, it is not worthwhile to single it out once again, just as you should not be surprised at the small-town nationalism of ancient ukrov later.

    Even on the topic directly addressed in the article, all these worthy people were born in the territory called Ukraine, and then what? They ceased to be Russian from this? Or, all of a sudden, became the same ukrami?

    PS I believe that Ukraine will someday return to Russia and I think that it is worth believing in it.
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    2. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian April 14 2016 22: 43
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      Of course it will return, when the flow of freebies from the European Union and the states runs out completely.
  31. engineer
    engineer April 14 2016 13: 15
    +2
    In ruin firmly took power
    Maidan horses and count
    to return good neighborly relations
    In the near future it is not necessary. For generations, the ruin has become
    enemy of Russia.
  32. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 14 2016 14: 59
    +1
    A sharp entry into the dense layers is dangerous concussion, which is what happened.
  33. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 14 2016 16: 06
    +1
    Whatever is done in UKRAINE, EVERYTHING IS FOR THE BEST .. The less the mentally ill matches, the calmer for those around ...
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  35. rus-5819
    rus-5819 April 14 2016 16: 19
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    Quote: Kos_kalinki9
    You all do not know and do not understand anything. the outskirts of the great cosmic power. (Don Pedro said that, but he is not good for them). She even forbade the satellites of the Russian Federation to fly over her territory. And since it is banned, then there is something to prohibit. laughing


    In-in! And I first read the title: " paid atmosphere".
  36. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 14 2016 16: 57
    +3
    Quote: Kos_kalinki9
    She even forbade the satellites of the Russian Federation to fly over her territory.

    They will shoot them down!
    Back in the 13 year, they experienced terrible weapons on Grushevsky ...
  37. NordUral
    NordUral April 14 2016 18: 55
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    Sad Until very recently, I could not imagine how much intelligence was spurred by the Union in Ukraine. And everything went to dust. I feel sorry for you, the independent inhabitants of the once considerable part of the Great Country.
  38. Kibl
    Kibl April 14 2016 20: 45
    +1
    Modern Ukraine and space are the best joke of the month!
  39. RoTTor
    RoTTor April 14 2016 22: 02
    -1
    1. It's a shame, to tears - what Ukraine has turned into and a record short time ... Those fascists never dreamed of.
    My father graduated from the Moscow Aviation Institute, studied and was friends with Uncle Vasya - Budnik and Mishin, and Yangel were together members of the MAI Komsomol committee.
    My uncle, also a Mayan, a front-line soldier, built Yuzhmash from the first stake and worked there until 1992, the deputy chief test technologist.
    Their happiness is that they did not survive today, and did not see all that became of the USSR, with Yuzhmash.

    2. The author listed the astronauts only at the place of birth, and if you consider how many of them they graduated from Kharkov VVAUL named after S. Gritsevets (the most famous - Alexei Leonov) and Chernihiv VVAUL - the list would be huge. There are no such venerable schools — they were destroyed under present-day Ukraine. An unofficial indicator of the quality of pilot training is how many graduates of which school were selected for the Cosmonaut Squad. So schools on the territory of the USSR were here in the lead.


    3. Cosmonaut No. 4 Pavel Popovich in 1990 was invited to the so-called “World Congress of Ukrainians” in Kiev. When they tried to introduce him as the “first Ukrainian astronaut,” he went to the rostrum and answered harshly: “I am the FOURTH SOVIET cosmonaut and am proud of it. And therefore, you won’t be sitting in the same room with the former SSovtsy and Bandera’s ”and left this“ event ”.

    4. Everything will be restored in one common country ...
    I would rather
  40. n.kolesnichenko
    n.kolesnichenko April 14 2016 23: 54
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    Gidzenko from Nikolaev forgot !!!
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  42. ToBXPeH
    ToBXPeH April 15 2016 01: 15
    +1
    The space program of Ukraine!