The return of Kudrin, or Epitaph for a mobilization economy

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Raise your hand, who managed to miss Alexei Leonidovich Kudrin as a representative of the bureaucratic apparatus in the Russian Federation. A forest of hands ... Well, you are bored or not bored - the tenth thing, as it turns out, and Alexey Leonidovich is returning (triumphantly?) To a structure very close to the apparatus mentioned above. The proposal to work for the good of the Fatherland and, of course, the people, was reported by the former Finance Minister himself, who left behind a legacy, which is usually called Kudrinomics - an economic model whose essence boils down to savings in the “pot” practically at any cost of oil and the Russian ruble - for a rainy day". And "black day", according to the version of kudrinoomics, "always tomorrow."

From the statement by Alexei Kudrin, which is published by the news agency TASS:
I received an offer to take one of the leading positions in the Center for Strategic Research. I am now considering this issue. I, in principle, agree. But it requires appropriate procedures that take time. It's too early to talk about responsibilities. This is the stage of negotiations.




Kudrin said that even if he agrees to work in the Center for Strategic Research (CSR), it still does not leave its Committee of Civil Initiatives, which managed to become one of the alternative platforms for commenting on the state of affairs in the Russian economy and statements such as “under Kudrin everything went well, the trees were higher, the grass is greener, the economy is more powerful ... "

So, Mr. Kudrin is actually ready to accept a job offer at the CSR. What does this Center represent? This is the main question.

If officially, then this is a non-profit organization, which in 2000 was formed as a scientific center within the framework of the electoral headquarters of Vladimir Putin. Over time (when Vladimir Putin entered his first presidential term), the Center for Strategic Research began to develop as the main platform for preparing the strategy of the Russian government. Today, the CSR is positioning itself as follows (information from the Center's website):

The CSR is an NPO (foundation) whose main task is to develop strategic documents necessary for the development of Russia: key sectors of the country's economy and regions of the federation. The Fund does not carry out licensed activities.

Current policies and activities of the CSR:

Science, education and innovation;
Critical infrastructures: energy, transportation systems and others;
Asian cooperation and development of the Russian Far East;
Socio-economic development of regions and cities.


The main founders of the foundation are the Higher School of Economics, the Institute of the National Economy (do we have a national economy? news!) forecasting of the Russian Academy of Sciences, as well as the Institute of Legislation and Comparative Law at the Government of the Russian Federation.

By and large, the CSR today is a “cozy” liberal group with an eye on an economy that does not assume much responsibility, but at the same time it manages, no less, to shape the strategic agenda of the cabinet of ministers. That is, much of what the Russian government is trying to put at the forefront could come as a “strong recommendation” from the same HSE experts, who, judging by numerous facts, have direct or indirect relation to all the governing structures of modern Russia without exception .

During the years of its existence, a whole “pleiad” of people, unconditionally concerned about the future of Russian citizens, passed through the composition of the CSR. Many in the fund meet today.

It is enough to name several names in the leadership and advice of the Center for Strategic Research in recent years to make it clear on what ideals there was (and still exists?) The Center for Strategic Research, where they invite you to work as an expert Alexei Kudrin.

So, in the Council of the Foundation there is such a person as Andrei Illarionov. If someone suddenly forgot, then you need to remind: one of the implementers of Chubais privatization into reality (head of the analysis and planning group under the chairman of the Russian government) in 1994. In 2000, he also became an adviser to the president of the Russian Federation on economic issues. And then he suddenly found in himself ardent opposition views, having entered Kasparov's “Other Russia”. It is Mr. Illarionov who is actively traveling around abroad today and telling everyone how Russia is "rotting" and how "the Russian economy is about to burst to tatters." And after all, nothing, you understand, does not mean that, just a few years ago, he himself took the most direct part in shaping the model of the economy that is being exploited in Russia today.

Illarionov, throwing mud at Russia, sits in the CSR system, the goals and objectives of which are indicated above. That is, the “Illarion model” everything is exploited and exploited ... By the way, Alexey Kudrin and Andrei Illarionov studied together - with the same “economic breakthroughs” ... And after that, one should expect that Russia's economic strategy will change and really go on rails real development? Yeah ...

From the recent notes of the “strategist” of the CSR of Mr. Illarionov in social networks:

A statement in support of Nadezhda Savchenko.


"Merkel hangs in the balance" - Putin wants to overthrow the German Chancellor


Putin's "Panama"


About Rosguards:
Putin fulfills Gaidar's testament about the need to have "the last regiment ready to shoot at the people."


It is difficult to imagine that somewhere in the USA a person (the same Illarionov format), who travels around foreign forums and announces the “imminent collapse of the economy”, is also constantly pouring mud on his country, would be in the structure of NGOs that are engaged in developing strategies for the state apparatus of this very country ... And we have a democracy - we can ...

The Council of the Center for Strategic Research also includes the rector of the Higher School of Economics Yaroslav Kuzminov (also the husband of the head of the Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina). He is a member of various commissions under the president and the government. One of the "outstanding" undertakings of Mr. Kuzminov is the advice to the Ministry of Education and Science about the need to reform the education system. And as a pillar of reform, Kuzminov and his associates suggested an “outstanding” mechanism in all respects: the Unified State Examination (USE). It is noteworthy that Yaroslav Kuzminov is also the deputy of Mosgodumi, supported by United Russia, even though de jure Kuzminov has no relation to the United Russia. But the EP often takes the peak of the HSE, who act as advisers in the field of education, in the housing and utilities sector, and in the field of regional state-building ...

And the Elvira Nabiullina, German Gref, Evgeny Yasin (again HSE) went through the council of the TsSR.

Well, you understand ...

And this statement by the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation regarding the invitation of Alexei Kudrin to the CSR:
Of course, it would be wrong not to use his (Kudrin) expertise for the construction of certain plans. Of course, this is welcome. In what forms will this happen, I (Dmitry Peskov) in this case would not speak. Rather, it is his decision to take or not to take part in the work of various research organizations.


In general, the Kremlin welcomes ... And, apparently, it finds absolutely nothing reprehensible that the Center for Strategic Research in its current composition continues to "create a strategy", which the Russian authorities ultimately use.

PS to Kudrin's return to the levers of governing the country.

Igor Kornelyuk's song sounds:

Come back on a cold morning
Come back in a crowded tram,
Come back, it's very hard for me
Come back and stay ...


Someone said something about the need for Russia's transition to a mobilization economy? .. Well, yes, yes, yes ...
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    1. +15
      April 13 2016 06: 57
      It's time to sell gas and oil for rubles, and Kudrin for currency ...
      Quote: Sensatus
      Well this is what buoyancy it possesses, it’s Mr. But!

      Since I personally am interested in economics, I decided to study Kudrin’s economic arguments very carefully based on his interviews and speeches. Imagine my surprise when I realized that there were no arguments. From the word in general. Words are, but empty, not confirmed by anything.

      Such a person will write us an economic strategy.
      1. +14
        April 13 2016 07: 20
        And what kind of panic? They will put him in a structure that does not solve anything special.

        In addition, maybe in this structure all the liberals will be gathered, and then slammed. Will be in sight.

        PS Reptile he is all the same!
        1. Hon
          +13
          April 13 2016 09: 24
          Quote: Enot-poloskun
          In addition, maybe in this structure all the liberals will be gathered, and then slammed. Will be in sight.

          yeah slam. take any economic structure, who rules there? why haven’t you slammed so far?
        2. 0
          April 13 2016 12: 08
          Quote: Enot-poloskun
          And what kind of panic? They will put him in a structure that does not solve anything special.

          In addition, maybe in this structure all the liberals will be gathered, and then slammed. Will be in sight.

          Yes, there is no panic.
          Clearly, there are concessions to the States. They need their people in the nerve points of the Russian economy.

          In turn, they "close their eyes" to something. Politics, sir ... smile
        3. +15
          April 13 2016 12: 26
          We have been waiting for 16 years .. However, when they are slammed, and they all pop up and pop up here and there ... oh no wonder spring is in the yard.
          Winter time is running out
          And under the snowdrift
          I find a piece of g ... on
          Although I was looking for a snowdrop. (Author unknown)
          Something like that.
        4. +5
          April 13 2016 15: 48
          Kudrin is not in the structure, it is necessary to put him in a jail.
          1. +1
            April 13 2016 17: 19
            ... dust him, dust ..
        5. +3
          April 13 2016 16: 29
          It is necessary for Mr. Kudrin to directly say that Russia does not need him; what he did and does not benefit the economy and entrepreneurial activity, his place near Gaidar.
        6. 0
          April 13 2016 16: 33
          So far they’re clapping their hands.
        7. +13
          April 13 2016 16: 40
          Return of Kudrin, or Epitaph for the Mobilization Economy "
          ..
          .. yes Joseph Vissarionovich returns ... laughing
          = April 1st.
          In Moscow, at the Arbatskaya station, the stucco collapsed, and Stalin peered out from under it.
          This, by the way, is not a joke.
          == Users of social networks have already decided what or who they would like to see on the new bill of 2000 rubles - which the Central Bank will print in 2017. According to 23% of VKontakte active subscribers, Joseph Stalin should look at Russians from a two-thousandth bill.
        8. +2
          April 13 2016 22: 21
          Quote: Enot-poloskun
          In addition, maybe in this structure all the liberals will be gathered, and then slammed. Will be in sight.



          Eh, the dreamer ...

          But I really want to believe ...
        9. 0
          April 13 2016 22: 54
          Quote: Enot-poloskun
          all liberals

          amendment, traitors. These people are the most banal traitors, who have nothing in common with liberal views (as, indeed, with any other views). I am not a liberal. It is simply important to separate the grain from the chaff.
    2. +12
      April 13 2016 07: 14
      Yes, let the CSR be clever in this very thing - this is another toilet, where the similar balabol theorists who have gone into circulation are poured - they must be put in the same place! After all, a good organization for such figures is the Gulag, where Khrushchev, unfortunately, dispersed a person engaged in socially useful work ... laughing
      1. +1
        April 13 2016 08: 12
        He has been returning "triumphantly" since 2011, but everyone cannot return. He is currently the dean of the faculty of some kind of arts ... what can we talk about .. request
        Well, even he will act as an expert somewhere and scho?
        But he will not influence decision making anyway.
        1. +14
          April 13 2016 08: 17
          If anyone does not remember, I remind you that our president has repeatedly invited Kudrin to his work. And let me be forgiven, Russian proverb; "Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are," has not been canceled yet.
          1. +10
            April 13 2016 10: 21
            Quote: captain
            Russian proverb; "Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are," has not been canceled yet.


            Then forget another one:
            Keep your friends near you and your enemies even closer.
            1. +2
              April 13 2016 12: 46
              Quote: Kostoprav
              Keep your friends near you and your enemies even closer.

              ... wisely ... hi ... I revered for this very organization, as the Center for Social Development ... NGOs it is an NGO ... neither to the village, nor to the city ...
              - Development and practical application of a set of economic and mathematical models for the analysis and forecasting of the relationship of performance indicators ...
              - Conducting applied research, developing forecasts of key macroeconomic indicators ...
              - Methodology for the formation and monitoring of statistical indicators of implementation and performance indicators of projects ...
              - Comprehensive monitoring of application practices ...
              ... in general, it has nothing to do with either the government or the authorities ... just a group of people, so-called experts, setting out their "own knowledge" on certain issues, of course not for free ... in general, how in the old proverb: ... the main thing is to crow, and there at least don't dawn ... well, Kudrin got a job, a new job, and what of that ?! ... why is there such noise and din ?! ... private office, not having any relation to the legislative and executive branch! ... so where did Kudrin return? ... oh, Alexei Batkovich Volodin, oh Alexei Batkovich Volodin ... material from the category of "Offshore Reveals of Putin's Billions" so two drops of water ... hi
        2. +9
          April 13 2016 10: 26
          Quote: Sid.74
          He has been returning "triumphantly" since 2011, but everyone cannot return. He is currently the dean of the faculty of some kind of arts ... what can we talk about .. request
          Well, even he will act as an expert somewhere and scho?
          But he will not influence decision making anyway.

          What does it mean coming back? Himself what? Egoa, probably, at least, someone should call and approve and this person sits higher than Ulyukaev or Nabibulin
          1. +5
            April 13 2016 12: 20
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Sid.74
            He has been returning "triumphantly" since 2011, but everyone cannot return. He is currently the dean of the faculty of some kind of arts ... what can we talk about .. request
            Well, even he will act as an expert somewhere and scho?
            But he will not influence decision making anyway.

            What does it mean coming back? Himself what? Egoa, probably, at least, someone should call and approve and this person sits higher than Ulyukaev or Nabibulin

            Why guess Peskov said everything in his statement: Russian Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov told reporters that former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin in the Kremlin is considered one of the best specialists in the world who held this post. On Tuesday, April 12, reports RIA Novosti.

            Peskov added that Kudrin, who held the post of head of the Ministry of Finance from 2000 to 2011, was one of the best members of the Russian cabinet of ministers and “it would be wrong not to use his expertise to build certain plans.”

            “Of course, this can only be welcomed, in what forms this will happen, I would not say in this case, it is rather his decision: to accept or not to participate in the work of various research organizations,” the spokesman said.

            MATERIALS ON THE TOPIC
            00:14 April 11, 2016
            1. -1
              April 13 2016 13: 28
              Why guess Peskov said everything in his statement:


              What else can he say? We must not look at words, but at deeds. They took Kudrin off, and now they are putting him in a non-commercial sharashka. Where is the "return"? Only to the trough.
          2. +1
            April 13 2016 13: 26
            What does it mean coming back? Himself what? Egoa, probably, at least, someone should call and approve and this person sits higher than Ulyukaev or Nabibulin


            If you are hinting at VVP, then he also said that "he does not abandon his own people." Well, Kudrin ran out of money, it happens. We need to feed. They were admitted to the trough, and fig.
        3. 0
          April 13 2016 22: 25
          Quote: Sid.74
          But he will not influence decision making anyway.


          Then the question: Why goat button accordion, if she does not know how to play ???

          PS This "won't be" is an excuse for us ... It's just THERE, where the state's strategy is being developed, they are not dragged, they are invited ...
      2. +9
        April 13 2016 08: 16
        Since October 1990 - Deputy Chairman of the Committee on Economic Reform of the Executive Committee of the Leningrad City Council. After the liquidation of the Committee on Economic Reform, he transferred to the Committee on Management of the Leningrad Free Enterprise Zone.

        Since November 1991 - Deputy Chairman of the Committee for Economic Development of St. Petersburg, oversaw investment policy issues.

        Since August 1992 - Chairman of the Main Financial Department of the City Hall of St. Petersburg (subsequently renamed the Finance Committee).

        Since 1993 - deputy, first deputy mayor (Anatoly Sobchak), member of the city government, chairman of the Committee on Economics and Finance of the St. Petersburg City Hall. He worked in the government of St. Petersburg along with Vladimir Putin.
        From August 1, 1996 to March 26, 1997 - Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation - Head of the Main Control Directorate of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation [21] [22]. Invited to this position by the head of the presidential administration Anatoly Chubais [23].

        Alexei Kudrin, together with Vladimir Putin, who also switched to work from St. Petersburg in Moscow in 1996, were considered members of the Chubais team
        etc.
      3. Hon
        +5
        April 13 2016 09: 28
        Quote: Finches
        Yes, let the CSR be clever in this very thing - this is another toilet, where the similar balabol theorists who have gone into circulation are poured - they must be put in the same place!

        This toilet largely determines the economic policy of our state. You can certainly say that this is not so, but the results are obvious
      4. +3
        April 13 2016 12: 42
        Quote: Finches
        Yes, let the CSR be clever in this very thing - this is another toilet, where the similar balabol theorists who have gone into circulation are poured - they must be put in the same place!

        - Everything would be fine, but only the money for this precious "toilet" will go to ours.

        And many did not notice the feature between the lines: negotiations are ongoing - that is, trade.

        And now we turn on the head - if there is a structure with a certain staff of posts, then what kind of negotiations can we talk about?
        There is a post, an office with an armchair, air conditioning and a secretary in a personal staff. In vainthe board, after all. What are you going to sharpen?

        I do not like the position with all the attributes - take a walk in the sand ... It should be so, but the realities, unfortunately, are different today ...
        And it turns out - Kudrin is a necessary person, irreplaceable in this position. The question is for whom it is irreplaceable. The answer is to our sworn "friends", of course!

        And therefore, in the socio-economic context, what we have, or rather have us, is simple people ....
        1. +2
          April 13 2016 13: 30
          And therefore, in the socio-economic context, what we have, or rather have us, is simple people ....


          Well, capitalism. Ordinary people at the end of the 80's wanted this. Opportunities, but only not everyone can realize these opportunities. Kudrin may, but I or you may not. This is the law of the market.
    3. +2
      April 13 2016 09: 02
      Quote: Sensatus
      Such a person will write us an economic strategy.

      Quote: astronom1973n
      If this guy is returned to the helm of the economy, then you need to think about who is standing nearby and makes such decisions. With respect to the people.


      Thief in the government?
      Very wise
    4. +4
      April 13 2016 09: 19
      Quote: Sensatus
      Well this is what buoyancy it possesses, it’s Mr. But!

      it’s not Kudrin’s business, but the system on which Putin relies. The deck of approximates has not changed for a long time.
      Question: If you had the opportunity to ask a question in a direct line with the President, what question would you ask V.V. Putin ???

      I. Strelkov: Perhaps ... "How long are you going to rely on an irreplaceable team in the trash of stealing and terribly incompetent" vassals "? ".
      1. +2
        April 13 2016 12: 22
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        it’s not Kudrin’s business, but the system on which Putin relies. The deck of approximates has not changed for a long time.
        What do you want! What does a thief do with stolen goods? That's right, he is trying to sell on the cheap, and with the money he has received, he’s going to grumble. When you see how our rich manages, the last hair stands on end. Examples- South Stream, Nord Stream, ESPO, Power of Siberia ... Europe says guys! we are afraid of complete energy dependence on you. The "guys" do not hear, because it is beneficial for them. "Guys" say that the transit of hydrocarbons bypassing Ukraine is beneficial to Europe, while Europe says, who will finance Ukraine? It is beneficial for us that you finance it! The "guys" don't hear. China says yes we need oil and gas! But who told you what exactly is from Russia and at Russian prices? The "guys" don't understand! It is a delusion to believe that if something is beneficial for us, it is also beneficial for others!
      2. -1
        April 13 2016 12: 22
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        it’s not Kudrin’s business, but the system on which Putin relies. The deck of approximates has not changed for a long time.
        What do you want! What does a thief do with stolen goods? That's right, he is trying to sell on the cheap, and with the money he has received, he’s going to grumble. When you see how our rich manages, the last hair stands on end. Examples- South Stream, Nord Stream, ESPO, Power of Siberia ... Europe says guys! we are afraid of complete energy dependence on you. The "guys" do not hear, because it is beneficial for them. "Guys" say that the transit of hydrocarbons bypassing Ukraine is beneficial to Europe, while Europe says, who will finance Ukraine? It is beneficial for us that you finance it! The "guys" don't hear. China says yes we need oil and gas! But who told you what exactly is from Russia and at Russian prices? The "guys" don't understand! It is a delusion to believe that if something is beneficial for us, it is also beneficial for others!
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    6. +2
      April 13 2016 10: 26
      As far as I remember, it was Illarionov who merged Dudaev with all the information about the intentions and actions of our security forces in the first Chechen one. And he is not sitting yet? am
    7. 0
      April 13 2016 11: 41
      CSR must be dissolved, some of its members sent to the construction of roads in the Far East. winked
    8. 0
      April 13 2016 12: 28
      It's time to "ride" Medvedev and United Russia in the elections, so that they themselves do not form the government. Maybe then something will change? But liberal parties should not be allowed into the Duma either!
      1. +2
        April 13 2016 13: 31
        It's time to "ride" Medvedev and United Russia in the elections, so that they themselves do not form the government. Maybe then something will change? But liberal parties should not be allowed into the Duma either!


        Yes, they whom you want - they will ride themselves. But even if they merge EP to the joyful hooting of voters, then tomorrow the whole asset will be in the newly-winning party.
  2. +20
    April 13 2016 06: 21
    If this guy is returned to the helm of the economy, then you need to think about who is standing nearby and makes such decisions. With respect to the people.
    1. +11
      April 13 2016 06: 48
      Quote: astronom1973n If this guy is returned to the helm of the economy, ...

      CSR is an organization that does not directly affect the economy. A non-profit organization that deals with analysis and offers is advisory in nature.
      From the point of view of an optimist, I see this situation like this, "everything is fine, what kind of Guard, look, in fact, what kind of people we are inviting practically to the Government!", "Everything will be as before, do not be afraid!" Since I do not even have a millionth share of information, I may be passing off wishful thinking, but judging by the way the President has been behaving lately, this scenario is not excluded.
      1. +12
        April 13 2016 07: 08
        Tomorrow he will again scratch his tongue, give a couple of gingerbread to another "old woman" and a child, oblige his incomplete ones to listen to the aspirations of the people, they will naturally listen, and by the end of the year the country will slide down a little or a lot. We have a bottomless pit, Ulyukaev can grope for the bottom from year to year, the resources for the present are inexhaustible, the people are patient, there will be enough robbery for their life, and there at least the grass does not grow.
        1. +1
          April 13 2016 08: 27
          Quote: varov14
          As long as you can be on the guarantor, tomorrow he will again scratch his tongue, hand out a couple of gingerbread to the next "old woman" and a child, oblige his incomplete ones to listen to the aspirations of the people,

          No way the electorate will understand that the crawl is naked.
      2. Hon
        +1
        April 13 2016 09: 43
        Quote: avva2012
        CSR is an organization that does not directly affect the economy. A non-profit organization that deals with analysis and offers is advisory in nature.
        From the point of view of an optimist, I see this situation like this, "everything is fine, what kind of Guard, look, in fact, what kind of people we are inviting practically to the Government!", "Everything will be as before, do not be afraid!" Since I do not even have a millionth share of information, I may be passing off wishful thinking, but judging by the way the President has been behaving lately, this scenario is not excluded.

        and if you look at those who really manage the country's economy now, and at the decisions they make, does it seem that the CSR has much more influence than just an advisory body?
        1. +2
          April 13 2016 10: 22
          Quote: Hon and if you look at those who really manage the country's economy now, and at the decisions they make, does it seem that the CSR has much more influence than just an advisory body?

          I do not know. To be honest, I first heard about the TsSR. But, if it plays a role, then my assumption about "everything is fine guys" is even more logical. Who knows.
          1. Hon
            +1
            April 13 2016 10: 27
            The Center for Strategic Research (Fund) is a non-profit organization, one of the main analytical centers under the Government of the Russian Federation. It was created in 1999 as the intellectual and scientific center of the electoral headquarters of Vladimir Putin, who in 2000 ran for the first time as president of Russia. Located in Alexander House, opposite the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. A memorial plaque fortified at the mansion at ul. Big Yakimanka
            The main founders are:

            High School of Economics,
            Institute of Economic Forecasting RAS,
            Institute of Legislation and Comparative Law under the Government of Russia,
            Institute of Economic Analysis.

            December 1999 - foundation creation
            May 2000 - completion of work on the Strategy for socio-economic development of the Russian Federation for the period until 2010 (Strategy 2010)
            2001 - September 2003 - the Fund holds expert discussions of regulatory and conceptual documents being developed by the Government, including the main areas of socio-economic policy for the medium and long term
            October 2003 - p.t. - various directions of reforms for public authorities are being developed.
            Since 2005 - development of a financial model for high-speed railways in Russia: Moscow-Kazan High-Speed ​​Railway, Moscow-St. Petersburg High-Speed ​​Railway, Moscow-Sochi High-Speed ​​Railway.
        2. +4
          April 13 2016 10: 30
          Quote: Hon
          Quote: avva2012
          CSR is an organization that does not directly affect the economy. A non-profit organization that deals with analysis and offers is advisory in nature.
          From the point of view of an optimist, I see this situation like this, "everything is fine, what kind of Guard, look, in fact, what kind of people we are inviting practically to the Government!", "Everything will be as before, do not be afraid!" Since I do not even have a millionth share of information, I may be passing off wishful thinking, but judging by the way the President has been behaving lately, this scenario is not excluded.

          and if you look at those who really manage the country's economy now, and at the decisions they make, does it seem that the CSR has much more influence than just an advisory body?

          It is not clear that the economy and politics are not discontinuous and a failure in the economy — this is mainly a failure in domestic politics, the economy cannot develop normally — when pension deposits are confiscated, when they promise to abolish taxes — on the contrary, they hang them when oil becomes cheaper and gasoline rises when ownership is not recognized by anyone, when courts are controlled
          1. +2
            April 13 2016 10: 43
            Quote: atalef
            It is not clear that the economy and politics are not discontinuous and a failure in the economy — this is mainly a failure in domestic politics, the economy cannot develop normally — when pension deposits are confiscated, when they promise to abolish taxes — on the contrary, they hang them when oil becomes cheaper and gasoline rises when ownership is not recognized by anyone, when courts are controlled

            Yes, of course, of course. How scary to live!
            I’m trying to find out everything, but what are the suggestions? Instead of an answer, they say that everything is bad. Tell me, how do you see from the side, what should we do? Oil is getting cheaper, gas is getting more expensive, and cars on the street do not push. Drive up to the house, put no where, believe?
            A crisis. Not long ago, an acquaintance of high technology relative went to St. Petersburg (Bekhterevka) for an operation for a brain tumor. Free (the road at your own expense, though). The operation was difficult, I had to call the professor to the table. How much does such an operation cost, as well as specialist advice?
            Tell me, what taxes were "hung"? I, for some reason, missed everything again, however.
            The courts, yes, are controlled by the FSE. All of Europe with America is crying. Now Atalef from Israel has joined. I’ll go hang myself, galleries.
            1. 0
              April 13 2016 13: 38
              I’m trying to find out everything, but what are the suggestions?


              Bring back socialism. Shoot the entire elite and the oligarchs, and put a commissar with a Mauser to the GDP. And let it revive what the "democrats" have done. As practice shows, he has the ability, they would always be on a good track could be no worse than the IVS.
          2. 0
            April 13 2016 10: 55
            Quote: atalef
            when ownership is not recognized by anyone

            Oh, if that were so. I would take to myself which thread a profitable factory would appoint you deputy economic director and row a shovel. But even the harsh reality so far is that money from paycheck to paycheck and socks with holes. laughing
          3. +3
            April 13 2016 13: 36
            -This is mainly a failure in domestic politics


            This is understandable, but the government sees no "failure" in the economy. They are briskly and successfully fighting against cheap oil and falling incomes of the oligarchs with the help of the withdrawal of "surpluses" that have started up for "zero" from the population. So they have everything in order, we have to tighten their belts. However, the Russian elite is not original in this. There are worse in the West. And these even to bugger parades and juvenile justice did not come. And on this a great bow. And to your Jewish elites, who surrendered their fellow soldiers to the Nazis for destruction, they generally like cancer before the moon.
    2. +5
      April 13 2016 07: 12
      Yes, it’s time to think about it ... the president is an employee. But his employer is not the people, you and I are not big business. He defends their interests.
      Quote: astronom1973n
      If this guy is returned to the helm of the economy, then you need to think about who is standing nearby and makes such decisions. With respect to the people.
      1. +1
        April 13 2016 07: 46
        Quote: dmi.pris After all, the president is an employee. But his employer is not the people, you and I are not big business. He defends their interests.

        By your logic, everything is correct. Since we have capitalism, then the most important capitalist is at the top of power. Further, proceeding from the same logic, the Guard is intended to shoot at its own people. So what else? "Putin killed our children!", Ie, the plane was definitely banged on his order. Mordor.
        Just imagine, you imagine that the President still wants good for the country. So, here, for a second. Presented?
        Comes, he means to work in the Kremlin in the morning, and all sorts of capitalists are sitting around him. And, he told them from the doorway, "basta, guys, we work in a new way, the bowels of the people, the land to the peasants, the factories to the workers." How long do you think he, the Guarantor of our Constitution, will stay in the Kremlin after that?
        I don’t know who he is, our President and what he wants. It’s only known what happened to various reformers who, without proper preparation, tried to infringe on someone’s interests. Sadly, usually finished.
        Maybe Vladimir Putin is just a man and he has a desire to get on the pages of history not in the form of a "rag, a drunk, tagged"?
        And, the fact that a lot of time has passed, so, it is a lot for us, and for the country a hundredth of a second, if not less. Suddenly, the Guard, this is zhzhzhzh, not casual?
        1. Hon
          -1
          April 13 2016 09: 48
          Quote: avva2012
          By your logic, everything is correct. Since we have capitalism, then the most important capitalist is at the pinnacle of power. Further, proceeding from the same logic, the Guard is intended to shoot at its own people. So what else? “Putin killed our children!”, That is, the plane was definitely crashed on his order. Mordor.
          Just imagine, you imagine that the President still wants good for the country. So, here, for a second. Presented?
          Comes, he means to work in the Kremlin in the morning, and all sorts of capitalists are sitting around him. And, he told them from the doorway, "basta, guys, we work in a new way, the bowels of the people, the land to the peasants, the factories to the workers." How long do you think he, the Guarantor of our Constitution, will stay in the Kremlin after that?
          I don’t know who he is, our President and what he wants. It’s only known what happened to various reformers who, without proper preparation, tried to infringe on someone’s interests. Sadly, usually finished.
          Maybe Vladimir Putin is just a man and he has a desire to get on the pages of history not in the form of a "rag, a drunk, tagged"?
          And, the fact that a lot of time has passed, so, it is a lot for us, and for the country a hundredth of a second, if not less. Suddenly, the Guard, this is zhzhzhzh, not casual?

          And if you replace the word Putin with the word Chubais, the essence of what you wrote does not change.
          Putin has been in power for 16 years, and nothing has changed. It turns out that his role is purely nominal, like that of the president of Germany
          1. +2
            April 13 2016 10: 14
            Quote: Hon
            And if you replace the word Putin with the word Chubais, the essence of what you wrote does not change. Putin 16 years in power, and nothing has changed. It turns out that his role is purely nominal, like that of the president of Germany

            And what if someone is replaced by Hitler? The same, after all, they are trying to put an equal sign. "I'll spread my grief with my hands." I took it and put everything in its place so simply. "You, you, you, but you can, I, yes, you can ... shoot." So imagine politics? During this time, the same Chubais, Gref, and some others disappeared from power. Do you think it is easy to remove such figures from the chair? Does the President have a "ring of omnipotence" on his finger? No offense, but the feeling is that this view of power is somewhat childish. Yes, are you sure nothing changes? A cosmodrome is being built in the country. I don't know, but it's hard for me to imagine the scope of work. And, in our "impoverished country", there will soon be three spaceports. I doubt that Baikonur is served by Kazakh comrades. Plus Plesetsk. What other country can boast of this? Well, what will happen next, we'll wait and see.
            1. Hon
              +1
              April 13 2016 10: 33
              Quote: avva2012
              During this time, the same Chubais disappeared from power

              seriously?
              Quote: avva2012
              Gref

              get the position of director and chairman of the largest bank in the country whose main shareholder is the Central Bank is called to disappear from power?
              This is called rotation of posts and not disappearance from power
              1. +2
                April 13 2016 10: 51
                Quote: Hon get the position of director and chairman of the largest bank in the country whose main shareholder is the Central Bank is called to disappear from power?
                This is called rotation of posts and not disappearance from power

                Power, this is when there is an administrative resource. This is when, you can pick up the phone and order. Can you imagine the position of vice premier? I’m not very, as I can imagine, already breathtaking. Who, legally, can be ordered sitting in a bank or in Rusnano? To the director of the FSB or the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs? Can not. So, this is an honorable link. No doubt, the figures are serious, no words. Therefore, they are just like Hodor, you can’t put them on bunks, just as you wouldn’t like to. At least for now.
                1. Hon
                  +2
                  April 13 2016 11: 22
                  Quote: avva2012
                  Power, this is when there is an administrative resource. This is when, you can pick up the phone and order. Can you imagine the position of vice premier? I’m not very, as I can imagine, already breathtaking. Who, legally, can be ordered sitting in a bank or in Rusnano? To the director of the FSB or the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs? Can not. So, this is an honorable link. No doubt, the figures are serious, no words. Therefore, they are just like Hodor, you can’t put them on bunks, just as you wouldn’t like to. At least for now.

                  with us, Mr. Barkov is just a vice president, head of the General Directorate for General Issues, Corporate Security and Communications, a member of the board of OAO Lukoil, for some reason he drives around Moscow with a flashing light, moreover, legally and officially, in 2010 his Mercedes went to oncoming and planted Citroen, killed two people. But the investigation concluded that the traffic rules violated the Citroen.
                  That is, the topmanager of a commercial organization drives a Mercedes with special signals, drives into the oncoming traffic lane, kills two people, as a result, the surveillance cameras turn off, the expert opinions conclude that the PDP from the manager’s side is not violated, they recognize the car that was moving along its lane The investigation into the criminal case of an accident (part 5 of article 264) was terminated "in connection with the death of the perpetrator"
                  And after that you say that they have no power?
                  1. +1
                    April 13 2016 11: 45
                    Quote: Hon That is, the topmanager of a commercial organization drives a Mercedes with special signals, drives into the oncoming traffic lane, kills two people, as a result, the surveillance cameras turn off, the expert opinions conclude that the PDP from the manager’s side is not violated, they recognize the car that was moving along its lane . And after that you say that they have no power?

                    They have money, and this is not power. Yes, he was able to buy someone, bye. He violated the Law, and not only he, as is evident.
                    Bill Heitz has the same money. So what? The authorities also wanted the antimonopoly committee, all of a sudden, what a nuisance, it ruined his empire into several parts. And, Bill doesn't buzz. Well, at least they left what is.
                    Do you think in the West everything is wonderful and the moneybags are as equal before the Law as ordinary citizens? Hardly. From time to time, in public, they take the actress by the gills and sentenced her to community service. Ha! We are shaking in ecstasy, "here, this is democracy!"
                    We live under capitalism and money matters a little more than in the USSR since the time of I.V. Stalin.
                    Power, however, has always been power. And then and now. Access to power, i.e., including the right to sign and stamp, is measured by several other units.
                    Real power is the law.
                    Could create VV Putin Guard, the structure of which was not, he is Power. I was able to order, help the residents of the Crimea, he did it. Here she is Power! And, no matter how much the Grefs steal, they remain under the Law, and not above. For them, at the bottom.
                    1. Hon
                      +2
                      April 13 2016 12: 01
                      Quote: avva2012
                      Bill Heitz has the same money. So what? The authorities also wanted the antimonopoly committee, all of a sudden, what a nuisance, it ruined his empire into several parts. And, Bill doesn't buzz. Well, at least they left what is.

                      Bill Heitz lives in another country.
                      At one time, Berezovsky held the position of only deputy to the State Duma, but at the same time he was the gray cardinal of the Kremlin. You will say that he was thrown out as a result. but they threw out the same oligarchs that he had milked, and divided among themselves everything that he had. If in the U.S., the manager’s motorcade of an oil company comes to an oncoming lane and kills a person, the manager sits down and doesn’t receive community service, and the oil company is sued, not to mention that their businessmen, even of very high rank, do not drive cars with special signals. but it's just the little things.
                      the situation is that it was Anatoly Barkov, who drove into the oncoming Mercedes, that caused the accident, the traffic police claimed that, according to preliminary data, it was not the Mercedes that was to blame, but the Citroen. Also, attempts were made to hide and destroy evidence from the public on the part of the traffic police: a criminal case was not opened for the first 2 days; change of numbers on a Barkov car immediately after an accident; cars were not given for examination, but simply returned to their owners; Of the 3 CCTV cameras, the recording, after being pressed by the public, was made public only from one of them (and the moment of the accident is not visible on it).
                      Not even Barkov but the law enforcement authorities did not give a damn about all the rules and laws, they wiped their feet about them when the situation touched just a major businessman. After that, you say that money is not power? they are stronger than laws but they are not power?
                      and this is only Lukoil, and what kind of power does the director of Sberbank, or state corporations, through which budget money is pumped, have.
                      1. +2
                        April 13 2016 12: 27
                        Quote: Hon Bill Heitz lives in another country.

                        And what, do you like this country?
                        If in the USA the motorcade of an oil company’s manager comes to the oncoming lane and kills a person, the manager will sit down and not get community service, and the oil company will be sued,

                        He will not sit down because the Law prevails among them, but because his competitors will heed. Through the media under control, such a tub will be poured that no police commissioner or prosecutor will risk, for any money, to do what we have done in this case.
                        Democracy?
                        At one time, Berezovsky held the position of only deputy to the State Duma, but at the same time he was the gray cardinal of the Kremlin. You will say that he was thrown out as a result. but they threw out the same oligarchs that he had milked, and divided among themselves everything that he had.

                        Yes, you, how do you know how the birch was kicked out of the country? Newspaper Top Secret? The fact that he was a "gray cardinal" is so good that under the EBN, real gray rats did not run around the Kremlin. laughing EBN, ruled and owned everything? So, that time is over. Now the oligarchs are financing the Capella's salary, investing in the construction of Vostochny, and evil tongues say that the Defense Ministry is also being thrown into the operation in Syria. Rumors, nothing more. But, the fact remains, they sit like mice at the stove and do not rustle. This is power.
                      2. Hon
                        +1
                        April 13 2016 12: 50
                        Quote: avva2012
                        And what, do you like this country?

                        I do not like what is happening in our country
                        Quote: avva2012
                        Yes, you, how do you know how the birch was kicked out of the country? Newspaper Top Secret? The fact that he was a "gray eminence" is so good that under EBN, real gray rats did not run around the Kremlin. EBN, ruled and owned everything? So, that time is over. Now the oligarchs are financing the Capella's salary, investing in the construction of Vostochny, and evil tongues say that the Defense Ministry is also being thrown into the operation in Syria. Rumors, nothing more. But, the fact remains, they sit like mice at the stove and do not rustle. This is power.

                        Our oligarchs seem to have financed Olympic construction projects, and now it turns out that they took a delinquent loan from VEB and do not plan to give it back, now the government is actively seeking funds, private structures were involved in building Olympic facilities, the construction cost 50 billion instead of those calculated according to estimate 12. it turned out, they borrowed money, financed the construction of facilities that their enterprises cost four times the real price, and now the state will repay this debt, it’s time for the oligarchs to end ...
                        Oriental speak? then scandal after scandal
                      3. +1
                        April 13 2016 14: 01
                        Quote: Hon
                        I do not like what is happening in our country

                        Me too. Simple, I hope for the best. And some movements in this direction, personally, I see.
                        private facilities were engaged in the construction of Olympic facilities; this construction cost 50 billions instead of those calculated according to the 12 estimate. it turned out, they borrowed money, financed with this debt the construction of facilities that their enterprises cost four times the real price, and now the state will repay this debt, it’s time for the oligarchs to end ...

                        They steal, as without it. And, this fact says that the President so far does not possess the power that is needed, but takes steps to this.
                        But the oligarchs, not in sports, do not have that power. They will still twitch, but I’ll be pleased to see their convulsions.
                        Oriental speak? then scandal after scandal

                        There were scandals until the oligarchs invested money there. And, now, after we see whether there will be scandals or not. winked
                        All the best. It was nice to talk. hi
                      4. Hon
                        0
                        April 13 2016 14: 04
                        Quote: avva2012
                        They steal, as without it. And, this fact says that the President so far does not possess the power that is needed, but takes steps to this.
                        But the oligarchs, not in sports, do not have that power. They will still twitch, but I’ll be pleased to see their convulsions.

                        what is this twitching in convulsions?
                      5. 0
                        April 13 2016 22: 53
                        Quote: avva2012
                        But, the fact remains, they are sitting like mice behind a stove and do not rustle. This is power.



                        By the way, Abramovich is a vivid example ...
                        And he sponsors whom and what is needed, and does not rustle ... And he does not climb into power ... For this he is not touched ...
              2. 0
                April 13 2016 22: 47
                Quote: Hon
                This is called rotation of posts and not disappearance from power


                They were removed from power ...

                But they left the well-fed feeding troughs so that they would not break to this power again ...

                As Labeled used to say: found consensus ...
                1. Hon
                  0
                  April 14 2016 08: 46
                  Quote: weksha50
                  They were removed from power ...

                  But they left the well-fed feeding troughs so that they would not break to this power again ...

                  As Labeled used to say: found consensus ...

                  Well, they were supposedly removed from power, and to whom were they replaced? on the same. meaning then such a removal? Kudrin can’t be in the same government as Medvedev, they don’t get along, you have to make a choice, Medvedev warmed up the chair for 4 years, and he’s been kept in the government
                  1. 0
                    April 14 2016 09: 43
                    Quote: Hon
                    Medvedev 4 years warmed up a chair, so he is kept in government



                    Um ... Just don’t scare people and don’t say that Kudrin will take the prime minister’s chair tomorrow or the day after ...
        2. 0
          April 13 2016 22: 44
          Quote: avva2012
          And, he told them from the doorway, "basta, guys, we work in a new way, the bowels of the people, the land to the peasants, the factories to the workers." How long do you think he, the Guarantor of our Constitution, will stay in the Kremlin after that?


          Thinking about it a thousand times ...

          After all, they led him into power, most likely, counting on controllability ...
          However - he did not live up to the expectations of some, and we ourselves are witnesses to this ...
          And many of his actions confirm patriotism, and love and respect for his country ...

          In general, I thought many times that if he, according to OUR desire (which is often expressed in the open spaces of VO), tried to disperse this mold, then ... The end of such an operation would most likely be sad both for him and for us...

          And for example, we would get Mishka two percent in the premieres, and iPhone in the presidency ... And that would be a rather mild option ...
      2. 0
        April 13 2016 22: 38
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Yes, it’s time to think about it ... the president is an employee. But his employer is not the people, you and I are not big business. He defends their interests.


        Mdaaaa ... Unfortunately, a cynical, but - true statement that explains a lot in our state ...
    3. +1
      April 13 2016 12: 49
      Quote: astronom1973n
      If this guy is returned to the helm of the economy

      He does not go! laughing Because he's smart. The task of developing the economy of the Russian Federation at the expense of technologies and means of the West is currently unrealistic. A minimum of funds for defense, a minimum of funds for the state apparatus, a minimum of funds for social services, admission of foreign capital and companies to the Russian Federation, structural reforms in the economy, the creation of a "money box" and its use for economic development. This is not possible in a country ruled by officials and resource oligarchs. Kudrin is not an assistant here, we need to look for other ways of development, relying on internal reserves and the development of our own industrial production and agricultural production.
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  3. +8
    April 13 2016 06: 22
    It is necessary to collect all these "gentlemen" in a heap and on a steamer as in 18th year. Let them sail to their new homeland.
    1. Hon
      0
      April 13 2016 09: 49
      Quote: Good cat
      It is necessary to collect all these "gentlemen" in a heap and on a steamer as in 18th year. Let them sail to their new homeland.

      if we draw analogies, then representatives of the current non-systemic opposition should collect them
  4. +22
    April 13 2016 06: 26
    It is difficult to imagine that somewhere in the USA a person (the same Illarionov format), who travels around foreign forums and announces the “imminent collapse of the economy”, is also constantly pouring mud on his country, would be in the structure of NGOs that are engaged in developing strategies for the state apparatus of this very country ... And we have a democracy - we can ...


    Your affairs are wonderful, Lord Putin ..... request
    1. +6
      April 13 2016 08: 15
      And not only "wonderful things ...", but also harmful to the common people!
      And I'm not particularly surprised by this crap news ...
      Putin acted as always "according to the concepts", according to liberal ones, we don't give up our own ...
      But tomorrow it will "sing like a red rooster" in front of us!
      And the nastiest thing is that the majority of those who are shabby and fooled by this "ruling gang" will stare at the box with affection and "approval" and listen to his "next blizzard" about our bright present and future!
      1. +4
        April 13 2016 10: 22
        I have not watched this show for several years. Recently, the news flashed that a school has been under construction for about 10 years. they will bring it to the topic tomorrow. and it will turn out as always. the king is good, just hr .. the new boyars do not bring anything to him. Naturally, the school will be built by September 1 and personal control over this construction site will be, then they will tell us on the news about philanthropy, etc.
  5. +18
    April 13 2016 06: 28
    again brilliant course of GDP? everything will be good! Urya!
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  6. -11
    April 13 2016 06: 29
    Kudrin's intellectual level is undoubtedly higher than that of most ministers. I believe that Kudrin is Putin of finance and economics. And most importantly, the President understands this well.
    I watched several meetings with the participation of Kudrin. Unlike most ministers, it is clear that Kudrin always understood what he was talking about and, as they say, was "always on top of the topic", unlike other ministers who work on the materials prepared for them by subordinate materials.
    From the point of view of professionalism, there are no complaints against Kudrin.
    1. +8
      April 13 2016 06: 38
      Quote: cyber
      From the point of view of professionalism, there are no complaints against Kudrin

      Yes, he bends people professionally ...
      1. +1
        April 13 2016 06: 47
        Thanks, including Kudrin, Russia can now afford to be what it is laughing
        Do not believe me? Ask Vladimir Vladimirovich!

        PS. Just don’t ask Dmitry Anatolyevich wink
        1. +7
          April 13 2016 07: 03
          Quote: cyber
          Do not believe me? Ask Vladimir Vladimirovich!
          well ... the wind is still blowing from the same gateway! kudrin-sobchak-chubais! "We don't abandon our own" is understandable. in the nobility of GDP you will not refuse, those who helped him are inviolable, indulgence for life!
        2. 0
          April 13 2016 09: 45
          Kudrin and the liberalist, which must be crushed in the first place. For being at the post min. finance actually manually cut off a lot of good ideas and initiatives for the development of the country. Personally, he had a hand in the collapse of the army and the impoverishment and, accordingly, the mass dismissal of experienced personnel from the officers. At the same time, not completely not forgetting about your pocket and your relatives.
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      3. +7
        April 13 2016 06: 54
        What naivety. As if you do not know who is shouting loudest "stop thief". There are so many "patriots" and security officials next to Putin who nod at the liberals and intrigues of the West, while they themselves export money closer to this West, to the island offshores, "honestly" stolen from their "beloved" Motherland. Compared to them, Kudrin behaves more decently, at least in what he says what he thinks. And I haven’t heard anything about the Kudrinsk offshores either. And Putin, it seems, is not bringing Kudrin back from a good life, just too many fools, sycophants and thieves have gathered around him, as this always happens with the authorities.
        1. +1
          April 13 2016 09: 49
          Compared with them, Kudrin behaves decently, at least in that he says what he thinks. And I did not hear anything about Kudrinsky offshore.
          Believe it, it seems to you that way, he’s just more cunning and resourceful than others.
          1. +1
            April 13 2016 10: 35
            Quote: jPilot
            Compared with them, Kudrin behaves decently, at least in that he says what he thinks. And I did not hear anything about Kudrinsky offshore.
            Believe it, it seems to you that way, he’s just more cunning and resourceful than others.

            Well, yes, he can’t come up with a fairy tale about violins and cello
      4. +4
        April 13 2016 10: 34
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Quote: cyber
        From the point of view of professionalism, there are no complaints against Kudrin

        Yes, he bends people professionally ...

        Andrey, how else? Someone has to pay - Rotenberg isn’t with Timchenko, and you need to buy so many violoncello and violins - probably for playing in the subway transitions - as they say, don’t give money - give the cello (more precisely, the fishing rod)
      5. 0
        April 13 2016 12: 59
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Yes, he bends people professionally

        But sho, you forgot that we live under capitalism? lol Someone needs to bend, I would also like that they would bend even the rich, but that's just the Wishlist is small laughing
    2. +10
      April 13 2016 06: 48
      "From the point of view of professionalism, there are no complaints about Kudrin."
      ... Who's arguing? .. Field Marshal Manstein was also a "professional" ... The question is - to whom does he serve? ... World Investment International.
    3. +3
      April 13 2016 07: 56
      Yes, about intelligence - to the point! And about his statement that the country SHOULD NOT live on rent from minerals, and the ruble exchange rate SHOULD NOT take into account oil revenues - these are his ideas, Kudrin! Who does not agree with this now? Who dismissed him? "IPhone"! For what? And because he had his own opinion ... Do we have many such ministers? Here's something.
      IMHO, it is a pity that he was not made prime minister. It would be more useful. And I recommend to all-propals not to “re-sing” the opinion of the media about Kudrin's views, but to read his articles in serious magazines. They are available online. He is a realist - i.e. well-informed optimist.
      1. +1
        April 13 2016 08: 19
        Quote: Mountain shooter It would be more useful. And I recommend to all-propals not to “re-sing” the opinion of the media about Kudrin’s views, but to read his articles in serious magazines. They are available online. He is a realist - i.e. well-informed optimist.


        Especially on 4: 00
      2. 0
        April 13 2016 09: 38
        I absolutely agree with you Mountain shooter. Dismissed Dmitry Anatolyevich Kudrin only because he had his own opinion, moreover, a JUSTIFIED OPINION. In principle, Medvedev is in plain text and said at the same meeting.
        It does not matter to Kudrin that he was posed with not entirely adequate tasks, or rather, the requirements exceeded the capabilities of the budget and the economy, which he honestly spoke to both the President and the Prime Minister. The ZVR pillow was largely created thanks to Kudrin, and the fact that Russia can now show financial independence despite Western sanctions is also Putin + Kudrin.
        His only mistake (purely my opinion) was that he did not have to go into politics and just remain a professional in his field without political husk. Although, to Kudrin’s honor, he’s not too mired in politics, he’s rather just expressing his point of view, which some are trying to file into supposedly oppositional activities, although this is not entirely true.
        PS. Of the ministers of the government, in my humble opinion, the most respected are: Shoigu, Kudrin, Lavrov. These are professionals, for the rest there are doubts ...
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      4. +5
        April 13 2016 10: 01
        Kudrin's friend was removed by Putin and after he at some forum held in the United States said that "he is against investing in the ARMY and does not see the need for it" and this speech was after Putin announced the decision to allocate for the development of the army (in my opinion) $ 20 billion. So if you find out which of the two (Kudrin, Medvedev) is the more liberal, then Dimochka is resting.
        1. 0
          April 13 2016 23: 43
          Kudrin is a financier. And any NORMAL financier is against spending money on non-productive purposes, for example, on defense. But the fact of the matter is that everyone should do his own thing, politicians and the military think about the defense of the country, and financiers count money and make the economy happy. It is in the BALANCE of interests of one and the other that the truth lies. If you give free rein to someone alone, then either the economy will collapse, or the country's defense capability.
          1. 0
            April 14 2016 00: 51
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Kudrin is a financier. And any NORMAL financier is against spending money on non-productive purposes, for example, on defense.

            Fat plus you))
            We have one such "financier" has already commanded the army. And he still holds responsible posts, joyful. And the woman filmed his dumb clips about "slippers" during house arrest.
            Everything must be balanced. But if you don’t want to feed your army, you will have to alien.
    4. +1
      April 13 2016 09: 41
      Quote: cyber
      From the point of view of professionalism, there are no complaints against Kudrin.


      Are professional spies (on the other hand) or thieves, as well as robbers, also useful for our country?
      1. +1
        April 13 2016 11: 40
        What did Kudrin steal? All money is safe and sound and its safety is absolutely transparent for everyone. Kudrin "accountant" debit-credit - it all came together.
        1. +1
          April 13 2016 14: 17
          Nemtsov was also honest. The heirs valued the remaining $ XNUMX billion from him. This is not a billion in a yellow newspaper, this is an assessment of property for the court.
          1. 0
            April 13 2016 14: 48
            Nemtsov showed himself in N. Novgorod, even then it was clear what kind of person he was. They talked about his reaction when he found out that he had become governor, she was very indicative of me in a negative way.
            Well, okay, according to the old tradition: they either speak well of the deceased or say nothing. Therefore, it would be better if just silent.
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  7. +8
    April 13 2016 06: 30
    I received a proposal to take one of the leading positions in the Center for Strategic Research.

    The author of the proposal to the studio! The country must know its "heroes".
    1. +4
      April 13 2016 06: 56
      Quote: Michael M The author of the proposal to the studio! The country must know its "heroes".

      It says: And this statement presidential spokesperson RF on the invitation of Alexei Kudrin to the CSR: "Of course, it would be wrong not to use his (Kudrin's) expertise to build certain plans. Of course, this can only be welcomed. In what forms will this happen, I (Dmitry Peskov) in this I wouldn’t say so. It’s rather his decision - whether or not to take part in the work of one or another research organization. "
      As far as I understand, Sands does not deal with gag.
      1. +2
        April 13 2016 10: 34
        I must say that Kudrin was almost the only one in the government who occupied his place by education, unlike all the others, it’s not clear what they are doing and who came who do not understand where.
    2. +1
      April 13 2016 07: 09
      The author of the proposal to the studio! The country must know its "heroes".
      And you don’t know? The author of the proposal shakes the third term
  8. +3
    April 13 2016 06: 33
    Quote: Good cat
    It is necessary to collect all these "gentlemen" in a heap and on a steamer as in 18th year. Let them sail to their new homeland.

    Better on Northern Earth hi
    And let them build new relationships, democratic and civilized bully
  9. +2
    April 13 2016 06: 34
    I think it is necessary to collect this color of the nation in this Center (and do not forget the HSE), load it into wagons and organize an "office" in the area of ​​the Novosibirsk Islands without the right of correspondence (so that they would not be distracted from the case), with reliable armed guards and a strong fence to protect against anti-democratic forces. Probably 15-20 years will be enough for them to work out the strategy (the main thing is not to rush). lol
    1. +1
      April 13 2016 10: 33
      What will they do there? See the territory of Russia and China. They have 120000 km. railway ways, we have 86000 km. I propose to build a railway. direction Yakutsk-Magadan. at least what will be the benefit. Why about the "piece of iron"? This is a strategic direction for our country.
  10. +14
    April 13 2016 06: 36
    I wanted to see who Illarionov was. He scored in Yandex and didn’t even read after seeing the pictures below. One team .
    As for Kudrin, he turns into what unsinkable Chubais.
    1. +2
      April 13 2016 07: 53
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      One team

      But, Alexander, we will live curly. If we’re not completely bald.
    2. 0
      April 13 2016 13: 31
      Well, what did Delyagin not please ?!
  11. Gor
    +5
    April 13 2016 06: 40
    Shaw, again !?
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  13. +2
    April 13 2016 06: 56
    Zadolbali, Kudrin, as a financier is a very competent specialist. According to the role of his work, he must save and reduce. And economists must invest and spend. There must be a balance between them. Otherwise, there will be a khan for the long term. And there must be an arbiter over them. We are not lucky yet, we have a block of financiers and the Central Bank is more or less normal, but with economists it’s a complete disaster.
  14. +1
    April 13 2016 07: 00
    You all shout about the mobilization economy. Who wants to work at the machine 16 hours, seven days a week, put a minus, I’ll even count you.
    1. +5
      April 13 2016 07: 09
      It depends on how and for whom to work.
      If the state, and for this to get all sorts of nishtyak from him, such as free education, housing, etc., then consider me the first.
      And if it’s greedy, fat, which only thinks how to lower the salary, then do not consider me)))
      1. -4
        April 13 2016 07: 27
        The state is not an effective manager. Even in the oil industry, compare Rosneft and Lukoil. We have already gone through this.
        1. +5
          April 13 2016 08: 05

          Well, yes, the most effective is a private owner. And there are tens of thousands of such examples.
          1. +4
            April 13 2016 09: 06
            Quote: kirgudu
            Well, yes, the most effective is a private owner. And there are tens of thousands of such examples.

            Here is such an oil painting all over the country., Looking at which I really want to hang someone for ayts. am
            About five years ago, on May 9, at the front, we got into a conversation with a veteran tanker, and so his phrase without a mat sounded like this: "It would be better if I burned down near Kursk than to see what is being done to my country!"
            Che is not visible zaputintsy with a "hat" about what we have done, ayy-olgino
          2. +2
            April 13 2016 10: 15
            We live under capitalism. They closed because there were no buyers for its products. Their main products were the DT-75 tractor. In 2013, the Volgograd Tractor Plant celebrated its half-century since the start of the production of the DT-75. This is not a tractor, but khan agriculture. Plowing:
            DT-75M (75 h.p.) with a plow PLN-4-35 production rate per shift 6,0 ha, fuel consumption 17,2 l per ha
            John Deere 8100 (240hp) Lemken plow 160-6 production rate per shift 12,1 ha, fuel consumption 15,4 l per ha
            If not to speak about productivity, then this fuel consumption for a tractor in good condition at the most difficult work. In a typical collective farm, fuel will flow in DT.
          3. +1
            April 13 2016 10: 40
            They remembered the Volgograd Tractor, he went bankrupt in early 2000, a private owner is effective when he creates a factory or enterprise or has the desire to develop a purchased company or factory.
        2. +1
          April 13 2016 09: 54
          In what abysses of obscurantism and obscurantism are you ready to plunge us? You live in a country. where the state did incredible things when it conquered territories (2 \ 3 areas of permafrost, fought, enlightened, healed, gave energy, heat, light, mastered atom and space. We all know that the state’s diseases and crises immediately turn into innumerable troubles - reduction population, hunger, epidemics, cruelties and repressions to maintain at least some order. The state is one of the greatest achievements of mankind, it concentrates resources and efforts and is able to use them purposefully. What do you measure the effectiveness of management in the export of capital over a hill?
          1. +3
            April 13 2016 10: 12
            The indicators are simple, the standard of living of the population, the level of corruption and the state of the economy. The USSR lost and was buried by its own citizens, just because of ineffective governance. The question is when and by whom did the development of the territory take place? And who were these people?
            1. +1
              April 13 2016 12: 37
              The death of the USSR is the disease of the state, and the disease is for children. It was treated by the introduction of mathematical modeling and increasing design capacity. It caused an economic collapse, population decline, and armed conflicts. A geo-political threat to the entire former Soviet space. In Ukraine, state institutions were successively destroyed, humiliated, defamed, and the result is on the face. In the Russian Federation, state weakness was treated with a quantitative buildup of the state apparatus and excessive regulation. Glory to the creator! took up the defense. But the risk of becoming Libya was and is great. The quotient of the word. So let private traders defeat tuberculosis. or create fast neutron energetics. Success in growing parsley and selling nail polish does not negate the responsibility of private Russian capital for the shameful targeting of the ruble that began in 2010. And turned into a cessation of economic growth and a robbery of the country and population.
            2. 0
              April 14 2016 00: 56
              Well, for starters, the USSR LOSED. Secondly, the Communists themselves destroyed it. The people have nothing to do with it.
          2. 0
            April 13 2016 10: 32
            And where does obscurantism, this is capitalism. Obscurantism will come later, when robots will come to replace us and a lot of people will not be needed at all, so they will then fight for resources in the style of cyberpunk.
            1. 0
              April 13 2016 14: 08
              Call for a grasping reflex. delving into the cerebellum in search of the dark instincts of a tyrannosaurus in its territory. And this is the denial of progress, the cognizability of the world and ethics. For moral is that which is profitable. Capitalism creates profit, this is the main thing. Profit can be created as creation and production, so from destruction and ruin. The propaganda of market anarchism cannot but arouse suspicion and protest. Doubt about the effectiveness of the state (as a special case, the denial of the effectiveness of public administration) is strange. The state is effective when it is. And terribly not effective when not there. or it collapses. So with oxygen. It is effective for breathing while it is.
              1. +1
                April 13 2016 14: 18
                Take the Soviet Union and can be called where the Union was an effective owner and not effective. For some reason, the inefficient sectors were connected with the living standards of the population. And in these sectors the state will always lose to the private trader: food industry, services, light industry and other small business.
                1. +1
                  April 13 2016 14: 24
                  Quote: kagorta
                  For some reason, the inefficient sectors were connected with the living standards of the population. And in these sectors the state will always lose to the private trader: food industry, services, light industry and other small business.

                  - What is this statement based on?
                2. 0
                  April 13 2016 14: 27
                  Take the Soviet Union and can be called where the Union was an effective owner and not effective.


                  I would not say that the USSR was somewhere an "ineffective owner". Problems were simply solved as opportunities arose. Well, not all resources were used to develop the consumer market. However, if they did, they solved the problem once and for all. I have already given an example of providing chicken meat in Khabarovsk and Petropavlovsk more than once. By the way, it was the "efficiency" that explained the "deficit". After all, an ineffective owner, like a capitalist, would simply produce more products than is needed (hello to the crisis, so beloved by capitalist economies) and everyone would have had enough, and what was not enough, would have been thrown away or given to "humanitarian aid", as in Russia in the 90s. e expired cereals and canned food were drained. But in the Soviet Union it was not so. How much is planned to be enough for everyone, so much will be produced. But now there will be a situation that somewhere in the calculations they made a mistake or the logistics failed and a "deficit" appears.
                  1. -1
                    April 13 2016 14: 45
                    Quote: alicante11
                    How much is planned so that everyone has enough, so much will be produced

                    - while planning on the basis of some "average reasonable consumption", right?

                    Quote: alicante11
                    But now there will be a situation that somewhere in the calculations they made a mistake or the logistics failed and a "deficit" appears

                    - the deficit also occurred in the absence of "failures"
                    - it arose due to the fact that the counter workers themselves redistributed the "goods" in favor of the people they needed. Well, they did not forget themselves, loved ones, too
                    - the rest got the same "deficit". Quantum satis

                    Somehow request
                    1. -1
                      April 13 2016 15: 29
                      - while planning on the basis of some "average reasonable consumption", right?


                      Naturally.

                      - it arose due to the fact that the counter workers themselves redistributed the "goods" in favor of the people they needed. Well, they did not forget themselves, loved ones, too


                      It didn't have that much impact. Basically, "theirs" were simply stuck in "the best pieces". Well, some goods that were really rare, new household appliances, clothes, etc.
                      The absence of planned surpluses made itself felt much more, which led to empty shelves and full refrigerators. That is, everything that was brought in was bought up by everyone. Which is the highest indicator of effectiveness.
                      1. 0
                        April 13 2016 15: 47
                        Quote: alicante11
                        all that they brought, all bought up. Which is the highest indicator of effectiveness

                        - that is, in your understanding, efficiency is the absence of "waste" of manufactured products? When will everything that is produced with a guarantee be consumed?
                        - if so, then industry (and agricultural) some Zimbabwe is much more efficient than industry (and agricultural), some, for example, Sweden .. only here in Zimbabwe people are dying of hunger (conditionally), and in Sweden - Well, definitely not ..

                        Question: is the definition of efficiency given by you correct and suitable?

                        PS: if I (suddenly) misunderstood you - explain what you had in mind.
              2. 0
                April 13 2016 14: 21
                Quote: vladim.gorbunow
                Doubt about the effectiveness of the state (as a special case, the denial of the effectiveness of public administration) is strange. The state is effective when it is. And terribly not effective when not there. or it is crumbling.

                - You are not familiar with the ideology of neoliberalism? Take an interest and then the question of the necessity (effectiveness) of the state as a sovereign institution will be removed. smile
  15. +4
    April 13 2016 07: 09
    Quote: kagorta
    You all shout about the mobilization economy. Who wants to work at the machine 16 hours, seven days a week, put a minus, I’ll even count you.

    If we work for the benefit of the Motherland during the years of hardships and deprivations, in the face of the threat of destruction, we will undoubtedly work for 20 hours 7 days a week, but for the guys’s wallet, with cunning oily eyes and surnames, and their children, for buying a yacht and real estate abroad, do not wait!
    1. +1
      April 13 2016 07: 29
      So do not work for uncle, work for yourself. The same eyes will become cunning laughing
  16. +3
    April 13 2016 07: 10
    Shaw, Kudrina. to the government? Doesn’t the president know?
    1. +2
      April 13 2016 07: 25
      Well, that’s how Medvedev Kudrina once popped ... Because the president is in the know. Kudrina, however, is not in the government, but in the organization for ... planning, giving advice. Kudrin’s advice, however, we know without Kudrin. (Oil, gas over a hill. The revenue is there, they are all the same stolen. Everything you need to buy. USA hegemon, no one against them.) bully I, I think, attach him to not talk too much.
    2. +2
      April 13 2016 08: 19
      Quote: Gardamir
      Shaw, Kudrina. to the government?

      But shaw, in the government itself ?? belay

      Center for Strategic Research (CSR): an NPO (fund) whose main task is to develop strategic documents necessary for the development of Russia: key sectors of the country's economy and federal subjects

      All words in the quote are divided by 10, at least:

      - the fund was created in 1999, and then its recommendations were .. in demand
      - at present, the fund is a bunch of exotic animals (one Illarionov is worth something), which "it is a pity to release, and there is nothing to feed and no reason"..

      Government? Three haha ​​..
      1. 0
        April 13 2016 09: 46
        But shaw, the government itself?
        You have nothing to do, what to cling to the words? Not being in the government, Kudrin was closer to the president. than many ministers. And now it will legally affect the Russian economy. Moreover, oil has gone up and soon we will hear about the restorers of the Russian economy.
        1. +3
          April 13 2016 10: 08
          Quote: Gardamir
          And now it will legally affect the Russian economy

          - will not be .. this "fund" - a freak show for the uncomfortable, so that they are at hand and do not talk too much. No more.

          Quote: Gardamir
          You have nothing to do, what to cling to the words?

          - well, how to say ..

          Quote: Gardamir
          Shaw, Kudrina. to the government? Doesn’t the president know?

          - giving, as be, more than understandable .. but for bazaar words are accepted to answer, no? wink

          And the President, by the way, doesn’t need to know at all that some retirement person has become a member of some kind of non-profit organization ..

          The stuffing was pure, Gardamir ... what now should I build a virgin from myself? request

          That's it .. Yes
          1. 0
            April 13 2016 10: 32
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - will not be .. this "fund" - a freak show for the uncomfortable, so that they are at hand and do not talk too much. No more.

            The journalist Volodin would be better off doing what he does best. For example, he composed fairy tales. There would be a lot more benefit than from such illiterate articles in the "all wasted" style.
    3. 0
      April 13 2016 09: 54
      Quote: Gardamir
      Doesn’t the president know?

      he even zp Sechina does not know, without an account.
      1. -1
        April 13 2016 10: 10
        Hello, hello!

        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        he even zp Sechina does not know

        - Th, for lack of thoughts - we drive the videos wink
        1. +1
          April 13 2016 12: 37
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          what, for lack of thoughts - we drive videos

          yeah, thoughts will appear tomorrow, after the speech of the leader of all the leaders on the air what
          he sows and reaps fellow
          1. 0
            April 13 2016 14: 25
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            thoughts will appear tomorrow

            belay About how belay

            Okay, I’ll wait with impatience, good, not for long .. prepare the cobblestones wink
  17. +5
    April 13 2016 07: 13
    Siluanov now announced a new budget rule, according to it, with an oil price of more than $ 50, the proceeds from it will go to reserve funds
  18. +5
    April 13 2016 07: 22
    Well, who will now say once again that GDP is not a liberal, and the white pillies are not the second side of the same coin. AND?
    The excuse of the form: "The king is good, the boyars are bad" - no longer rolls.
    1. -1
      April 13 2016 11: 37
      Quote: kirgudu
      Well, who will now say once again that GDP is not a liberal, and the white pillies are not the second side of the same coin. AND?
      The excuse of the form: "The king is good, the boyars are bad" - no longer rolls.

      - and you are happy with the campaign .. like an elephant laughing
      - have to upset a little: please answer
      - what is it to the President of the Russian Federation that the retired Minister of Finance has entered (will enter, maybe. He has not even yet entered) the board of some obscure NGO?

      And? wink
  19. +3
    April 13 2016 07: 25
    It’s somehow not cozy at heart. Kudrin, of course, is a good specialist, but, in my opinion, he either outgrew his time or time ahead of him, in short, Kudrin is not a man of today.
  20. 0
    April 13 2016 07: 30
    Yes, everything will go as it goes. The system of checks and balances works, and
    on the economy na.rat, one declaration of intent.
  21. +5
    April 13 2016 07: 33
    We have a strange "democracy". The patriots-creators are on the sidelines, and the economists-destroyers are at the epicenter. For twenty years HSE has been openly preparing a generation of Russophobes. After all, this can be seen with an unaided eye, and their influence on the government is not weakening, but on the contrary, is increasing. I am far from economics, but I understand that with surplus money it is necessary to buy tackle for fishing, and not fish, which will quickly disappear. What's the point of "Kudrinskaya stash", we eat it in 2 years, and then teeth on the shelf. Why hasn't this "stash" been launched into the means of production? Everyone spoke about this, except for those who came from the HSE, headed by Kudrin. It seems that VVP has decided not to make sudden movements until 2018. But in vain!
    1. +1
      April 13 2016 10: 56
      And it’s good that he created a stash - everyone should have savings for a rainy day and if this money is invested into the means of production - this money will be returned only in a few years, and then there is a high risk that they will not return at all - they built factories , they work normally, approaching self-sufficiency, and the next day a protracted crisis begins and all these factories and plants are covered with a copper basin and you do not have the means to keep them afloat - there is no saving for a rainy day.
      1. 0
        April 14 2016 01: 14
        A sure thing to give the Americans?
  22. +6
    April 13 2016 07: 39
    In general, one can judge by the awards from the West whose interests an official expresses. They awarded Gorbachev, Kudrin, Nabiulina.
  23. +1
    April 13 2016 07: 52
    Current policies and activities of the CSR:

    Science, education and innovation;
    Critical infrastructures: energy, transportation systems and others;
    Asian cooperation and development of the Russian Far East;
    Socio-economic development of regions and cities.


    Well, actually what he does, in our country is kirdyk or almost kirdyk.
  24. +2
    April 13 2016 07: 54
    Quote: sa-ag
    Reply

    And the ruble will be restrained without giving growth (as well as real incomes of citizens).
  25. +2
    April 13 2016 07: 56
    ... "And the aforementioned Elvira Nabiullina, German Gref, Yevgeny Yasin (HSE again) also passed through the Council of the Central Social Service." ...
    We need to add another viper to this adder. :-)
  26. Riv
    +2
    April 13 2016 08: 01
    For some reason this reminded me of the end of the 30s of the last century: Yezhov was appointed People's Commissar of Water Transport. Also, by the way, in April there was a case. And right away they gave him Lavrenty Palych as a deputy. Well, like: it's hard for you with two people's commissariats at once - here's an assistant. And after a year it somehow happened that in the NKVD Beria (a business man!) Pushed his boss aside.

    And comrade Yezhov went into the basement for interrogation. And what? We have the People's Commissar of Water Transport is no problem to replace, anyone can handle it. Of course, the NKVD is more difficult.
    1. 0
      April 13 2016 09: 41
      Lying is bad. Beria was not Deputy Yezhov in the People’s Commissariat for Water Transport, he was at that time the first secretary of Georgia, from where he came to the NKVD
      1. Riv
        +1
        April 13 2016 11: 53
        The NKVD was meant. Beria came there in the 38 year and became a people's commissar only three months later.
        By the way, Yezhov had another deputy: Frinovsky. He will also be promoted. Appoint Commissar of the Navy. For a while ...
        1. 0
          April 13 2016 12: 03
          Quote: Riv The NKVD was meant. Beria came there in the 38 year and became a people's commissar only three months later.
          By the way, Yezhov had another deputy: Frinovsky. He will also be promoted. Appoint Commissar of the Navy. For a while ...

          What irony, one in the People’s Commissariat of water transport, the other in the Navy! laughing Both will meet at Lubyanka. And, they say, Ms. does not sink.
  27. 0
    April 13 2016 08: 07
    "From the statement by Alexei Kudrin, which was published by the TASS news agency:
    I received an offer to take one of the management positions at the Center for Strategic Research. I am currently considering this issue. In principle, I agree. But this requires appropriate procedures that take time. It's too early to talk about responsibilities. This is the negotiation stage. "
    Now the country is FULL .... OPE.
  28. 0
    April 13 2016 08: 14
    Quote: v.yegorov
    Yes, everything will go as it goes. The system of checks and balances works, and
    on the economy na.rat, one declaration of intent.

    Who will "restrain and counterbalance" whom?
  29. +1
    April 13 2016 08: 27
    How I like the work of strategic offices: "In short, we need to make everything cool, everyone gets everything, everything works out for minimal money." UV-F! How tired I am! where is my salary? I'm on vacation! Proceed with the implementation, I'll be back from Nice - I'll check.
  30. +1
    April 13 2016 08: 37
    Or maybe it’s worth considering and recognizing that all Putin’s plans are not aimed at making Russia a great power, but only to strengthen the power of a certain oligarchic structure. And first of all, on the world stage. And it’s a shame, they are so good, but in the West they don’t put anything in and do not reckon with them. This immediately explains everything. Namely, the mismatch of domestic and foreign policy.
    1. 0
      April 13 2016 09: 03
      already worth considering
      He who knows how to think understands. And those who forgot how to use brains, the slogans replaced everything.
  31. +7
    April 13 2016 08: 38
    For twelve years, I was in charge of the sub-industry (this is how the enterprises subordinated to the Department of Defense Ministry were called today). There were more than 150 thousands of specialists at 30 enterprises in subordination .. We had long-term plans, advanced production preparation, dozens of HIT systems were in development. But there were no such figures, which A. Volodin brought in to become close. Yu.D. Maslyukov and my Minister were aware of all the problems.
    Why is there a body in the country that harms development? It is a crime. Kudrin did not create any "money-box", he diverted funds abroad and did not finance the real sector of the economy. We have the result today. I have the honor.
    1. +2
      April 13 2016 11: 08
      But what about the $ 500 billion reserves? Did they come from nowhere? And what would happen if these reserves were not at a time when the Russian economy is absolutely not self-sufficient, as it was in the days of the USSR? And what would happen now in the absence of these reserves?
      Don't you think that Kudrin proceeded from the existing realities of the Russian economy at that time? A commodity economy, fully oriented to the west, operating in conditions of low domestic demand and with the monetary policy that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation has conducted and is pursuing?
      What do you mean by the "real sector of the economy" and its financing in the market? Isn't the banking system the circulatory system of the economy and should not finance its development?
      And what is the problem at any time to return this money and invest it in the real sector? Kudrin, on the other hand, was not investing in offshore companies in their integrity. Is not it?
      You just look at the ongoing projects today, they just throw crazy money just to at least implement something, without evaluating the effectiveness and cost. Compare the cost of projects comparable in scale in Russia and abroad, and you will see the overstatement of the cost of Russian projects sometimes at times compared to analogues abroad. Kudrin spoke about this when he was a minister, was that why he was fisted? In order not to pull away finances for inefficient projects.
      1. Riv
        +1
        April 13 2016 14: 53
        Kamrad, you yourself think about what you write. 500 billion WHAT? American green dollars. Where did they come from? With the sale of resources. That is, the resources were taken out, turned into green paper, this paper was piled in a heap and called a reserve.
        And what, did everything right?
        1. 0
          April 13 2016 16: 47
          Riv, do you offer in kind exchange or what? smile
          Have you heard about liquidity? The dollar is a very, very liquid means, one of the most liquid in the world economy today.
          On the other hand, let's sell resources for rubles, I'm only FOR. But will the same Ecuador sell you "bananas" for rubles? Hardly.
          Russia's economy is too small as a percentage of the global economy, not just small, but almost negligible. In terms of dollars, you can buy everything and everywhere, in terms of rubles, what can you buy and where? Even inside Russia, the ruble is compared with the dollar even in prices of purely Russian goods! Domestically, the ruble has value at the dollar! smile What to talk about?
          1. 0
            April 13 2016 17: 05
            Quote: cyber
            Russia's economy is too small as a percentage of the global economy, not just small, but almost negligible. In terms of dollars, you can buy everything and everywhere, in terms of rubles, what can you buy and where?

            “You pgavy, ghaf!”

            Therefore, a gold reserve is accumulating because the liquidity of the dollar depends only on the desire of all market participants to maintain this liquidity.

            Attempts are being made to trade in national currencies - swaps are created.
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        3. 0
          April 13 2016 16: 55
          Our gold and foreign exchange reserves are gold, precious stones, a large number of other precious metals, bonds, stocks and more - and not green unsecured pieces of paper.
          1. 0
            April 13 2016 17: 21
            Quote: Vadim237
            Our foreign exchange reserves are gold, precious stones, a large number of other precious metals, bonds, stocks and more - and not green unsecured pieces of paper

            - Tyuyuyu ... Vadiyim .. well, what are you saying? .. request
            - and, by the way - for what the same "bonds, stocks and other things" were bought - not for the same "green papers"? wink

            The structure of the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation:
          2. Hon
            0
            April 14 2016 08: 53
            http://www.cbr.ru/hd_base/default.aspx?Prtid=mrrf_m

            Quote: Vadim237
            Our gold and foreign exchange reserves are gold, precious stones, a large number of other precious metals, bonds, stocks and more - and not green unsecured pieces of paper.

            data from the website of the Central Bank, today of the 387 billion gold reserves 317 is foreign currency. Go to the site to see for yourself
        4. -2
          April 13 2016 17: 00
          Quote: Riv
          resources taken out

          - But what, wasn’t it?

          Quote: Riv
          turned into green paper

          - I would say worse - in non-cash "lent paper". These are the numbers on the bank account

          Quote: Riv
          stacked paper and called reserve

          - and what should be done, in your opinion?

          Tell me something not in the form of a question, huh? wink
  32. +1
    April 13 2016 08: 56
    Kudrin is a representative of the world government, in whose tentacles is the Russian economy ...
    1. +3
      April 13 2016 10: 01
      Quote: Pvi1206
      Kudrin is a representative of the world government, in whose tentacles is the Russian economy ...

      Switzerland is also in the world tentacles, and Germany is generally occupied, and in Japan there are American bases ... for some reason, there are S / N TAM and here are completely different ... but the tentacles seem to be the same. On the other hand, Belarus. In whose tentacles is she? And what is the standard of living there ??? What about Kazakhstan? What about Venezuela?
      1. -1
        April 13 2016 15: 17
        Quote: Al1977
        Switzerland is also in the world's tentacles, and Germany is generally occupied, and in Japan, American bases ...
        You do not understand anything, they are all slaves of the States, bedding, so to speak. But Russia, it is not like that, Russia has its own special way.wassat We are above that.lol We will show them more !!! angry
      2. -1
        April 14 2016 21: 34
        Quote: Al1977
        Switzerland ... and Germany ... and in Japan ... but for some reason s / n TAM and here are completely different ...

        Quote: Greenwood
        You do not understand anything, they are all slaves of the States, bedding, so to speak. But Russia, it is not like that, Russia has its own special way. We are above that. We will show them more !!!

        - classic .. a couple of trolls on walking work laughing
  33. +2
    April 13 2016 08: 59
    Draw conclusions about your upcoming life. We lived well and will be. The only plan to maintain the welfare of the oligarchs, tightening the belts of ordinary people. And what is convenient with them. There are not many of them. They are all in sight, for every compromising evidence has long been collected. They are all manageable for a long time. So they need to be rich. You can always push them a little and shake some money on all sorts of things, such as sports events. See for yourself and surprise the world. And it’s hard to shake a lot of people. After all, the people may be outraged. Still alive is a fairy tale among him, about justice and truth. laughing
  34. +4
    April 13 2016 08: 59
    Let's think about it.
    The United States has the strongest economy, while it has a huge external debt.
    In Russia, a weak economy, while a meager public debt.
    We conclude. To make the economy strong, the United States simply takes money from other countries.
    To our economy was strong, you can not give your money.
    The current financial and economic model is aimed at weakening the country.
    The country's finances are managed by the Central Bank and big business. They give money to other countries, but they themselves do not get poorer. Conclusion, they do not give their money, but the money of those who are getting poorer. That is, the current model of the economy is aimed at robbing the people.
    Conclusion. The people should not give their money. All money in the country passes through commercial banks, which means that you can not pass money through commercial banks.
    What can be done? The country has a liberal economy, that is, it is necessary to defend its rights. If you create a network of cooperative enterprises in the country and combine them with a common non-profit bank acting as a clearing house, then the finances that accompany the business activities of many of these enterprises will not fall into the existing network of finance outflows from the economy. Money in circulation will be enough for development.
    Think about what is happening now? Where does inflation come from? Normally, the price of goods should increase in case of production of the same products with improved qualities, and inflation in the country due to falling oil prices, lower production or employment in the United States. This dependence must be destroyed.
    No need to wave pistols and even crossbows. It is necessary to create a national network of production and marketing of products. For one entrepreneur to survive, it is necessary to unite, remaining independent. In cities, everything is seized by retail chains — it’s necessary to organize a network of social shops, to issue regular customer cards to certain groups of the population — these are families with children, state employees, pensioners, people with disabilities, so external influence on prices can be eliminated. To begin with, to trade agricultural products: they have surpluses in the countryside, it is unrealistic to grow, bring and sell to one person, that's why it is necessary to unite. Money from the sale will go directly to the seller’s account, i.e. You can expand, buy equipment, build storage. Then it is possible to organize the production of clothes, assemble teams of builders, etc. Today, production is ruining the withdrawal of working capital from enterprises, according to the current system, it is assumed that they will return as investments, which causes inflation, but it doesn’t work either, money leaves the country. We must act, everything within the framework of the law, we can defend the right to a normal life for those who want and can work, which will lead to the strengthening of the economy. Their managerial cadres will grow — that is what they will need to be elected as deputies, and not the current party of loafers — they defend their personal interest — to live by weakening the country's economy and impoverishing the people. It's time to deprive them of this pleasure.
    1. 0
      April 13 2016 09: 41
      Do you think that the new managerial cadres who grew up at HSE will be different from today's guano ??
      1. 0
        April 13 2016 12: 37
        Quote: Forever so
        Do you think that the new managerial cadres who grew up at HSE will be different from today's guano ??

        In the system of which I am talking about, no experts from the HSE should be allowed close. The economy needs people who know production. It is necessary to choose deputies from those with whom you will work to solve problems.
        1. Hon
          +1
          April 13 2016 13: 03
          Quote: olimpiada15
          In the system of which I am talking about, no experts from the HSE should be allowed close. The economy needs people who know production. It is necessary to choose deputies from those with whom you will work to solve problems.

          we have here recently the Deputy Minister of Agriculture, could not answer the question of how the fodder beets differ from sugar, answer, and yesterday they raised it
    2. -1
      April 14 2016 15: 14
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The United States has the strongest economy, while it has a huge external debt.
      In Russia, a weak economy, while a meager public debt.
      We conclude. To make the economy strong, the United States simply takes money from other countries.

      Are we not ourselves investing in US government bonds, is it they taking this money from us? And then they don’t return it?
      And what about the Russian economy, that is, the crisis due to the fact that money at interest was sent to the United States? So Putin is an enemy of the people, since this allows ????
    3. -1
      April 14 2016 15: 14
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The United States has the strongest economy, while it has a huge external debt.
      In Russia, a weak economy, while a meager public debt.
      We conclude. To make the economy strong, the United States simply takes money from other countries.

      Are we not ourselves investing in US government bonds, is it they taking this money from us? And then they don’t return it?
      And what about the Russian economy, that is, the crisis due to the fact that money at interest was sent to the United States? So Putin is an enemy of the people, since this allows ????
  35. +1
    April 13 2016 09: 00
    take this reptile away from the power of aaaa .. got DARMOED and a traitor to the motherland!
    1. Hon
      0
      April 13 2016 10: 35
      Quote: Nitarius
      take this reptile away from the power of aaaa .. got DARMOED and a traitor to the motherland!

      Are you talking about the one on your profile picture?
      1. 0
        April 13 2016 15: 19
        Quote: Hon
        about the one on your avatar?
        And how dare you encroach on the sacred?!?! stop
  36. +1
    April 13 2016 09: 06
    It must be assumed that in America the Republicans will come to power, and Kudrin will establish relations with them?
  37. 3vs
    0
    April 13 2016 09: 36
    I think Uncle Vova is not.
    Since he appreciates Kudrin, then there is something in it.
    Personally, I do not agree with him on increasing the retirement age; we are not ready for this.
    What can I say - he is a date (financier), and all dates seem to be due to their profession and,
    accordingly, character, miser at work and in life.
    But what is his merit - he saved up money!
    As the saying goes - time to throw stones and time to collect.
    He collected.
    And now it's time to spend, from this money we are building a spaceport and a bridge to the Crimea,
    and help Donbass and Syria ...
    1. +1
      April 13 2016 10: 40
      and help Donbass and Syria ..
      And in Russia we are crushing food.
    2. +1
      April 13 2016 15: 20
      Quote: 3vs
      from this money we are building a spaceport and a bridge to the Crimea,
      and help Donbass and Syria ...
      And also we reduce the financing of state employees, we cut social programs, etc. etc. Syria is more important than its citizens, of course.
  38. +2
    April 13 2016 09: 58
    Illarionov pouring mud on Russia

    Cheap substitution of the concepts of Homeland and power in the Kremlin.
    I also hate Putin, our ministers, Putin’s oligarch friends, Duputat licking, Valka Matvienko and others, but at the same time I love Russia very much and I want it to be cleaned of this mold and people come to power who will really raise Russia, when citizens of other countries of Europe and the World will envy us, admiring medicine, industry and culture.
  39. 0
    April 13 2016 09: 59
    You know how they say about such people: there is such a proverb - let the fox into the coop.This uncle K is the real and already "hungry" fox who, after the "hunger strike", will begin to eat with great appetite for the entire time of his absence.
  40. +1
    April 13 2016 10: 00
    Nothing has changed in the bureaucracy since the time of Eltsin!
  41. +4
    April 13 2016 10: 13
    And actually, what are the options?
    According to our constitution, we are managed by specialized international institutions through NGOs.
    Everything is according to the law!
    We do not have STATE bodies responsible for the creation, planning, execution and CONTROL of the implementation of strategic development plans of Russia.
    It is not allowed in COLONIES.
    So there will be a curly hair with a gref and other riffraff to ruin our economy according to the plans of the IMF.
    1. 0
      April 13 2016 18: 58
      I recognize Fedorovsky delusional disorder
  42. +2
    April 13 2016 10: 42
    Something a second alarmist article.
    This "Center" is not the government. And the influence of different kinds of experts on the government is similar to the saying "the dog barks - the caravan moves on." Take Glazyev's proposals. GDP will do it in its own way anyway, well, an old comrade has simply spent his "free bread", we must again allow him to cling to the nursing breast of the Motherland. They don't give up their own.
  43. 0
    April 13 2016 10: 56
    "Alexei Leonidovich Kudrin accepted Judaism ..." © (http://holeclub.ru/news/kudrin_prinjal_iudaizm/2012-02-10-1340)

    So, and - who-the-thread still has doubts, in whose interests it acts?

    If anyone does not know, Judaism establishes the absolute primacy of the religious over the secular. Exactly the same as the well-known "ISIS".

    That is, Lyosha Kudrin must (and - will!) Do exactly what the rabbi tells him. Well, you can rest assured that there is a "direct wire" with our sworn "friends".
  44. 0
    April 13 2016 10: 57
    Quote: atalef
    What does it mean coming back? Himself what? Egoa, probably, at least, someone should call and approve and this person sits higher than Ulyukaev or Nabibulin

    One of the very, very few moments when I agree with you one hundred percent, plus from me. Everything is correct, this is done only after the "highest" approval, that's just why and why again this, which does not sink, was needed, yes Even in a place like this, well, I never understand. And our leaders criticize the ruin, saying that it’s not so, it’s not that way, but what they are doing, so walking on the rake is our national fun.
  45. -1
    April 13 2016 11: 08
    Juist Ayfonych will be replaced by another Jew -Kudin ...
    Who believes that Russia will rise from its knees?
  46. 0
    April 13 2016 11: 09
    Except, as a well-thought-out strategy, there is no other way.
    In order to find the "correct" road, a pluralism of opinions is necessary, with one "Susanin", at best, you can get lost. In addition, it is easier to "decompose the shit" if you introduce a baking powder into it.
  47. 0
    April 13 2016 11: 12
    Quote: Drop
    . But there were no such figures whom A. Volodin brought to become close. Yu.D. Maslyukov and my Minister were aware of all the problems.

    Everything is correct, because almost all heads of enterprises, ministries and departments started from the very bottom, with working specialties, and went all the way from a simple worker to a minister. And now, some top managers are in a creative frenzy, with mania for optimization and monstrous non-professionalism, who have graduated from all sorts of HSE and similar universities.
  48. +1
    April 13 2016 11: 26
    And what the hell is Glazyev needed then, an adviser who is like a fifth wheel in a cart.
    1. Hon
      0
      April 13 2016 11: 34
      Quote: Che for
      And what the hell is Glazyev needed then, an adviser who is like a fifth wheel in a cart.

      and to whom does he interfere? there were many different personalities among the presidential advisers
    2. +1
      April 13 2016 18: 30
      Glazyev is the only one there who offers REALLY how to get out of that impasse into which poor goofs drove Russia like Kudrin, Medvedev, Gref, Nabiulina and others like them.
  49. +1
    April 13 2016 11: 29
    I don’t know who how, I think the next five years will show what we get, or the country of Russia or something that will be very embarrassing.
  50. +2
    April 13 2016 12: 03
    Kudrin is positioned as "the most powerful finance minister in the world." Why not sell it to a country you don't mind?
  51. -1
    April 13 2016 12: 20
    The article is more like a slander.

    Who Kudrin is, everyone is with him now and in his past life, it’s clear. Everyone also knows who distinguished themselves in what way, 25 years have passed, we can analyze it.

    Article about appointment or hiring???

    “Well, you understand...” - the words of the author of the article.

    A chessboard is a board in Africa, just like you don’t rearrange the pieces. You can be white, or you can be black.

    The article is not about Kudrin, I think so, but about the center where the president’s “team” works or worked. Well, I should have written in more detail.

    And one more thing: “(we have a national economy? - this is news!)” - at least take a trip around the regions and see for yourself, at least something closer: Tula region, Oryol region, Ryazan region, Belgorod region, if If you don't want to, Google Mep will help. What kind of salary and roads there are is another question.
  52. +1
    April 13 2016 12: 30
    Imagine this situation: in Russia there are no more scientists capable of promoting scientific and technological progress. The education of young people has been reduced to the level of EGE, i.e. to a minimum, young people are not able to think independently. The question of what will happen to Russia is rhetorical, everyone understands it. The United States cannot subjugate Russia by force; its army inspires confidence. Then what will they do - undermine Russia from the inside. So this is exactly what they need: the Illarionovs, Kudrins, Livanovs, Nabiulins, Grefs, and all our liberals who are grist for the US mill. With their help, and at low cost, mainly at the expense of the Russian budget, we can achieve the goal. Yes, in this series I forgot to mention NGOs and foreign teachers in our Russian schools working on the initiative of the Minister of Education Comrade Livanov. And what they can teach, you can look at Illarionov and Kudrin, they studied in the USA. If everything is left as it is, let it flow according to the will of the United States, we will come to the Russian Maidan, and then we will all jump in.
    1. +1
      April 13 2016 15: 23
      Quote: koralvit
      we will come to the Russian Maidan
      We won’t come, it’s not for nothing that the Nazis... uh... the Russian Guard were cut down.
  53. 0
    April 13 2016 12: 43
    If in the government there are “rotten eggs” of the government - the economic bloc, then all these names mentioned in the article are the ECONOMIC ROTTEN of our society, rotten, incompetent, corrupt and criminal, and if they are again pulled into power, then the POWER itself is the same.
  54. 0
    April 13 2016 12: 56
    Elections are coming soon - vote, friends, don’t despair. And then the chances of the Kudrins and Grefs will disappear, and Glazyev’s program will be supported in parliament by the left majority. Vote.
  55. +1
    April 13 2016 13: 52
    Screw real production, now it’s complete.
    This US friend will strangle this completely. And all according to the correct theories.
    Ugh on him, rot!
  56. -2
    April 13 2016 13: 54
    What is it about Kudrin that the local people don’t like? He saved state money, was a state accountant, carried out the orders of Vladimir Vladimirovich and Dmitry Anatolyevich... What is his fault? Figuratively speaking, he is an ACCOUNTANT! laughing Accounting for money is carried out so that income and expenses match. There is money in the budget - it gives, there is no money - it does not give.
    Could he influence the Ministry of Economic Development or the Central Bank? laughing The Central Bank does not report to anyone except the US Federal Reserve.

    PS. 16 years have passed since Yeltsin transferred power (Brezhnev was chairman of the CPSU Central Committee from 1966 to 1982, also for 16 years) and Russia began to rise from its knees. 16 YEARS! Peter 1's total reforms of the state took 24 years!
    1. 0
      April 13 2016 14: 25
      Did I write something wrong? Of course, it is clear that many have already found themselves guilty of incomplete rise from their knees... and Kudrin is very good in this regard as a “whipping boy” - a very modest and intelligent person, it is unlikely that he can effectively protect himself from militant individuals who are greedy for blood. Some even manage to blame him for the collapse of the army!

      PS. Reading some comrades, I remember the old saying: “It’s good that God didn’t give the pig horns, otherwise it would have gored everyone!”, to paraphrase: if only some forum users had been given power and they would have drowned Russia in the blood of those who disagree with them, worse than the worst dictators !
      1. +2
        April 13 2016 17: 02
        This is exactly what happened with the Ukrainian pig, they gored their own - those without horns, and those who did not agree were drowned in blood.
        1. 0
          April 13 2016 17: 21
          I agree with you completely. In Ukraine, local “patriots” also believed that only they knew the true path of Ukraine. In the end it all ended in Donbass, the house of trade unions in Odessa...
          Pointing a finger at the Ukrainian Svidomo, it would be good not to repeat their madness and solve problems and disagreements through dialogue, and not through confrontation and hatred of opponents.
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    3. 0
      April 13 2016 16: 58
      Our Central Bank has its own policy and it does not depend on the Fed - everyone is squabbling among themselves, whether in the Fed or in the Central Bank.
  57. +1
    April 13 2016 16: 59
    Quote: gergi
    Kudrin is not in the structure, it is necessary to put him in a jail.

    All the current anti-people power is spent on logging. Medvedev promoted Tkachev’s deputy, who does not understand agriculture, to 1st deputy. And the head of the Federal Property Management Agency, Deputy Ulyukaev, was fired because she opposed privatization at low prices. Because the friends of the “guarantor” want to grab tasty morsels cheaper, so such a head of the Federal Property Management Agency is objectionable. And Kudrin is a friend of our “sun-faced” one, well, “how can you not please your dear little man.” Shame and conscience are abstract concepts for our anti-people government.
    1. 0
      April 13 2016 17: 33
      With this dismissal, Dergunova was made clear that she does not work for Microsoft and decisions are made not only from the point of view of economic feasibility, but also taking into account the interests of friends of some high-ranking comrades.
      In general, she did not want to sell state property to the right people during a decline in prices.
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  58. Bor
    0
    April 13 2016 18: 00
    Doesn’t he want to work as Prime Minister of Ukraine?
  59. 0
    April 13 2016 18: 57
    Dear ones, wait for the warming up with the EU, this “strong economist” will set things right, of course, for a reason, but for the necessary “deflection”, in general, it’s time to drive this liberal party out of all branches of government, tomorrow the GDP will tell how we live
  60. 0
    April 13 2016 20: 07
    It's time for the people to come to their senses and give United Russia a ride in the elections! Then the government will be formed by the already united faction of communists and LDPR. In this situation, iPhone people and Kudrins will not get into the government!
    1. 0
      April 14 2016 00: 56
      You know, something tells me that if the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the Liberal Democratic Party come to power, nothing will change - they will only squabble between themselves more intensely.
  61. +1
    April 13 2016 22: 18
    "Someone said something about the need for Russia to transition to a mobilization economy?.. Well, yes, well, yes... "...

    News like this makes you bored... Or rather, sick...

    All my life I served for the benefit of the USSR, and then Russia... Then, in civilian life, I worked... And, to be honest, I thought not only about my salary, but also about the fact that I was benefiting the state, the country...

    And now, in the last days, it has become sad... Somehow life has flown by in vain... The USSR was destroyed before our eyes, Russia was almost destroyed, and, saying that Russia is finally rising from its knees, they are trying to under this sweet sauce, destroy to the end...

    PS And this “invitee” will now surround his desire and unwillingness to work with a whole bunch of conditions under which he will agree to “work tirelessly”...
    1. 0
      April 14 2016 01: 02
      Russia rose from its knees back in the 2000s, and now industry, agriculture and other sectors are developing more or less steadily, despite the decline in overall production.
  62. 0
    April 14 2016 06: 13
    I propose sending Kudrin to Ukraine to replace Yatsenyuk! Let Ukraine rise
  63. 0
    April 14 2016 09: 30
    When will they start hanging all this liberal trash? They have been screaming for 10 years now that we are in 37 - it’s time to live up to expectations and please the people!!!