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"Ivan Gren" this month will begin to test the factory

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BDK "Ivan Gren" (project 11711), being built at the Baltic plant "Yantar" will begin factory trials at the end of this month, reports MIC with reference to the chief builder of the enterprise Igor Leonov.




“Perhaps the most difficult transfer order, the BDK Ivan Gren, came very close to one of the most important stages of construction - at the end of April, he will begin conducting factory running trials,” said Leonov.

According to him, now the plant is “preparing the ship for transfer to the port of Baltiysk, from there the Ivan Gren will make outlets to sea as part of the factory trials”.

“It’s not a secret for anyone that this ship is complex and many questions arise to the designer and suppliers,” the chief builder said. The last problem was associated with diesel generators from the Ural diesel engine plant.

In turn, project manager Andrei Parfyonov said that "the mooring test program of the ship can be completed by mid-April, if all the measures planned are implemented and force majeure does not happen."

It is assumed that "Ivan Gren" will be transferred the fleet in 2016 city

Help MIC: “Project 11711 ships are intended for landing, transportation of military equipment and equipment, capable of transporting 13 tanks or 36 infantry fighting vehicles (BMPs), as well as up to 300 paratroopers. Three six-barrel 30-mm artillery mounts and two Ka-29 transport and combat helicopters are in service. ”
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii April 12 2016 17: 33
    +2
    A large paratrooper ship is needed, the question is who will be given.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz April 12 2016 17: 52
      +27
      But I’m wondering, will they accept him before they write them off, or what? Just in my memory, such a long-term construction has not yet been
      1. vanavatny
        vanavatny April 12 2016 17: 57
        +3
        ash, Severodvinsk laughing hi
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 12 2016 18: 33
        +12
        Quote: Wiruz
        Just in my memory, such a long-term construction has not yet been

        Only 12 years.
        Remember the "Red Caucasus". Founded in 1913, the flag was raised only in 1932. smile
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 April 13 2016 06: 16
          +3
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Remember the "Red Caucasus". Laid in 1913, but the flag was raised only in 1932

          bully And he served until the 1952 year and how he served !!!!
    2. PKK
      PKK April 12 2016 19: 43
      0
      A pair is needed to cover the Nicaraguan canal.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn April 13 2016 08: 54
        0
        Not delivered ship, for not built canal. By the way how to cover it? c AK-630? or flood like Ochakov wassat
    3. PKK
      PKK April 12 2016 19: 43
      -2
      A pair is needed to cover the Nicaraguan canal.
    4. Marconi41
      Marconi41 April 13 2016 03: 15
      +1
      Quote: Teberii
      A large paratrooper ship is needed, the question is who will be given.

      I think it will go to the Federation Council. It would be nice to send to TF, but the ship is raw and will not be sent far from the manufacturer.
  2. Limon1972
    Limon1972 April 12 2016 17: 35
    +3
    As the saying goes, "A little more, a little more," and we don't need force majeure!
    1. lelikas
      lelikas April 12 2016 17: 44
      +8
      Here you need a huge poster with Stanislavsky! :)
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 April 12 2016 18: 55
        +7
        Quote: lelikas
        Here you need a huge poster with Stanislavsky! :)



        Let’s believe this time though ...
  3. Приговор
    Приговор April 12 2016 17: 36
    +3
    Now it would be on the Black Sea. There is enough for him.
  4. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson April 12 2016 17: 37
    +7
    Unfinished, from the beginning of the zero. Finally, they tortured him, it’s interesting to go into a series or are they already discussing a new project?)
    1. vanavatny
      vanavatny April 12 2016 17: 40
      +3
      Petr Morgunov has already been building since the summer of 2015 (11711 projects) are threatened to be overpowered by 2018 and it seems like a series of 6 pieces was originally planned, but there will only be two
      1. kirieeleyson
        kirieeleyson April 12 2016 17: 50
        +2
        Well, if there is such a "trouble" with the UDC, then yes)) These "Tapirs" were already outdated by the planned delivery date of the head one, in 08, as I remember, therefore it was "modernized" along the way right on the wall.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 April 12 2016 18: 19
          +19
          No. Initially, the Navy had 3 rubles and they drove this money into each ship. The disease of Novik in general, when every ship was shoved with everything that was, plus they also supported the maximum number of enterprises with orders.

          In the 08 year, it was decided to make an amphibious ship out of it, and her an auxiliary cruiser with SPRAKES, missiles, foundations under the RCC. Therefore, the project was revised, it was disarmed. The premises were used for basic needs (this is a landing ship!).

          Then, already in the 12-13 year, he was demoted in general to a transport vessel (MTC).

          In 14, they returned back to the BDK.

          Well, they reworked it live once every two years stably.
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 April 12 2016 18: 57
            +11
            Quote: donavi49
            Well, they reworked it live once every two years stably.



            Mdaaaa ... Born in agony ... God grant that his real life does not resemble his long-term construction, that it is more successful ...
            1. PKK
              PKK April 12 2016 19: 42
              +1
              It is necessary to wash it, since such a heavy construction was and that there would be no force = majors.
      2. Wiruz
        Wiruz April 12 2016 17: 53
        +2
        like a series of 6 pieces

        No no. Canceled. Morgunov will be the last. Admirals realized that this project was stillborn hi
    2. Marconi41
      Marconi41 April 13 2016 03: 17
      +1
      Quote: kirieeleyson
      it’s interesting to go to a series or are they discussing a new project?)

      What series ?! This monster is from the past. Talk about the Russian UDC has been going on for a long time, and the designers are no longer sleeping. There will be no more than two of them.
  5. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul April 12 2016 17: 40
    +2
    "Admiral Grigorovich" when is it going to the Black Sea Fleet? Who knows?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz April 12 2016 17: 53
      +1
      Damn, I can’t find the information myself. After raising the flag, there was no news about him.
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul April 12 2016 20: 49
        0
        After raising the flag, there was no news about him.
        Now I don’t remember how long it takes to complete the task in order to get permission to go. But after raising the flag more than a month has passed.
  6. Kibl
    Kibl April 12 2016 17: 43
    +1
    Why is everything so slow and clumsy! Speed ​​is needed not only in hitting fleas, but also in the construction of new warships, planes, tanks. Especially in the current situation in the world! Speed ​​and speed again!
    1. Igor V
      Igor V April 12 2016 17: 53
      +1
      Either speed or quality. Choose.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 12 2016 18: 20
        +11
        Is it possible in Japan: both?
        The construction of two Project 22DDH (24DDH) ships to replace two obsolete Shirane type destroyers was approved by the Japanese Ministry of Defense on November 23, 2009. The lead ship DDH 183 Izumo was launched at the shipyard of the Japanese corporation IHI Corporation in Yokohama in 2011 and was officially laid there January 27 2012 years. The launching ceremony (withdrawal from the dry construction dock) of Izumo at the IHI Corporation shipyard in Yokohama took place 6 August 2013 year, the ship began factory sea trials 29 September 2014 years.
        The laying of the second ship of the same type DDH 184 (the project is already designated as 24DDH) was made at the same shipyard IHI Corporation 7 2013 October, the with planned delivery to the Japanese fleet in March 2017 of the year.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 April 12 2016 18: 45
          +13
          This is a different class of ships. He is not a specialized landing ship, or rather the same landing ship as the Cavour - no, he drags the marines, even their equipment (light), but they land either on a prepared pier or by helicopters.

          It is better then to take a more interesting project, in a country with a medium-developed shipbuilding industry (although certainly far more developed than in Russia) - Indonesia.

          Shipyard PT PAL between PANAMAKS and other civilian ships, builds warships. With Deo, they transferred technology and mastered an extremely successful project. Makassar.


          The essence of the project is everything is like adult uncles, but for less than 50 million ship. The ship is being built 2-3 of the year. Starting price of 35 mln - full. 50 million package with a long base. He takes a battalion of landing, with equipment (40 vehicles in the hold - with access either to the pier or via the docking camera + 2 TDK large in the dock itself), plus carries up to 6 helicopters from 2 or 3 platforms. It can drag a container, including during overloading on the 1 helicopter deck, a row without limitation of seaworthiness, 2 is already limited, however, the container will only have external loading / unloading (here it will lose Tapir with a crane, but Tkachenko will not). There are all sorts of fashionable modular little things, with the ability to deploy a hospital / prison for pirates / accept specialists / deploy any equipment.

          The ship, one of the most successful in the class, in sales (this is not UDC, but DKVD). It was already bought by Peru, and with the deployment of production at its SIMA shipyard. And also the Philippines scraped together Peso and still ordered an 2 ship for 89 million dollars.


  7. okroshka79
    okroshka79 April 12 2016 17: 44
    +2
    A very complex ship ... In my opinion, this is an excuse and an excuse for irresponsibility and inaction. I don’t think that large landing ships of the Ivan Rogov type, which were also built at the Yantar shipyard, were simpler in terms of their placement design and landing craft landing devices, however, such “long-term construction” was not observed.
    1. Igor V
      Igor V April 12 2016 17: 58
      0
      Do you think that "Yantar" does nothing? You are wrong. Building a ship isn't about fixing a sewing machine.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 April 12 2016 18: 13
      +9
      Fishing boat - a punt, if you wish, you can build five years and get an estimate of a good yacht.

      Initially, it was a new Tapir, which any Union Shipyard should build. With conversion, in the spirit of the times.

      Then the USSR died. The project was frozen.

      Then, towards the end of the 90's, the Tapir replacement was resuscitated. Found the money, mortgaged.

      Then, the Navy began to revise the requirements. At one time, a real auxiliary cruiser was made out of it, with SPRAKs, a cannon, rockets and foundations for the mobilization weapons of anti-ship missiles.

      Then, when the money went poorly, poorly, the need for such an auxiliary cruiser disappeared, and the idea was crazy. They started to unload.

      Then, the new leadership of the Navy was generally demoted to a transport vessel.

      And so, in everything.

      The ship initially should not be outstanding, but simple, cheap and massive. As a result, he lost both cheapness and mass character. Moreover, initially the old man Tapir - to replace whom he is being built, is better than him in the main quality - carrying capacity, both absolute and actual. The tapir takes almost twice as many trucks / more than twice lightly armored vehicles or containers due to a full-weight cargo upper deck.
  8. 11 black
    11 black April 12 2016 17: 46
    +21
    So I will definitely tell you yes smile
    1. 11 black
      11 black April 12 2016 18: 04
      +14
      All evil ones - hold the Bonus to cheer you up laughing
      When the cat has nothing to do, it scratches the genitals, but Private Altynbaev found an even more interesting scratchy lesson. He scratched his overcoat ...
      The process was complicated and long. First, it was necessary to negotiate with the drivers of the author for the indefinite lease of a metal scrub brush, then soak it in kerosene, clean and trim to the necessary scratching standards. Circumcision was carried out individually for each metal hair with special cutting tweezers. After a couple of weeks, Private Altynbaev improved his skill as a cutter so much that he could easily get rich in sunny Israel, pretending to be a surgeon.

      But that was only the beginning of the process. Next, the wise son of the deserts had to prepare the overcoat itself: boil it in a weak solution of bleach, so that the red overcoat turned white evenly. This was the first serious difficulty - the overcoat did not crawl into the kettle, and Private Altynbaev did not see other boiling appliances in his life.

      Thinking for a long couple of days, the defender of the Motherland remembered the precepts of the Prophet Mohammed about the mountain. Proud of his quick wits, he thumped into the kettle of bleach, boiled and began to pour overcoat ...

      At first, soldiers beat him with a teapot, who did not heed the cries of beauty and disinfection, but these were only flowers - the fighters were already accustomed to his strangenesses and walked through the body listlessly and without maliciousness. Berries began when the senior warrant officer Kaban (and his surname was one hundred percent) saw the result of the design work of a subordinate. The miracle that appeared to his gaze most of all resembled a red deer with blue epaulets - a bunch of white spots and smudges against a red background. The similarity was greatly enhanced by a head sticking out of the overcoat collar with large and surprised eyes and a dented teapot on a belt.

      Roaring in such a way that it drowned out all the taking-off fighters, the ensign rushed to Private Altynbaev and dragged him into the captive. Then he held a soulful and applied conversation on the topic of agriculture and forestry, in any case, from the door between sobs and cries one could catch the words “tree” and “ram”.

      Nothing can make a goal more attractive than difficulties on the way to it. After some time, the bold aviator almost stopped bruising and began to open his right eye. For the entire time of forced idleness, only two functions worked properly in the body of ordinary Altynbaev - the digestive tract (well, everything is clear with him - you can transfer food to humus in any condition) and an inquisitive brain - a bone that the fists of the terrible ensign could not split.

      Without waiting for the left eye to open, and licking his wounds on the go, our hero decided to appeal to the collective mind and went to his fellow countrymen to the stoker. The collective mind decided that the long-suffering overcoat should be boiled in a bath, which was once installed to wash the stokers. In the short time that it was used for its intended purpose, the bathtub acquired a radically charcoal color and if you didn’t wash it, then there was a good chance to get an excellent black overcoat for serving naval aviation. But since Private Altynbaev was a patriot of air defense, it was decided to wash the bath. Going to the senior warrant officer Kaban for acid was considered an unreasonable decision, and the camel breeding brothers took up the sandpaper ...

      After some time, the bath was ready, and the valiant fighter carried his overcoat to the next technological operation. He decided to carry it at night, secretly and quickly. It was a global mistake, because the shortest way to the desired bath lay through the taxiways of the aircraft, which were guarded at night ...

      “... The automatic line breaks the silence ...” - apparently, he sang this song, lying face down in the taxi, while the guard ran to the scene.
      1. 11 black
        11 black April 12 2016 18: 04
        +12
        On that day, the best friend of Private Altynbaev, senior warrant officer Kaban, stood up as an assistant to the bat duty officer. After hearing a lot of interesting things from the duty officer on the shelf and filling out the necessary papers, he went to pull out his subordinate. After half an hour, having received plenty of kicks from the guard company, Private Altynbaev again found himself in his own battalion in the strong and friendly arms of the commander. For some reason, this did not please him at all, and the sparkling brain instantly issued a preliminary calculation - it’s better not to remember another overcoat for another week ...

        The premonitions were not deceived, and the overcoat had to be set aside for another week - it was still difficult to do something with eyes almost closed from the Fingals, except to find a grub by the smell, however, it also pretty sore ...

        At that moment, even the hero’s inquiring and ever-cheerful brain was ready to be discouraged, but salvation came as always unexpectedly - in the form of an incomprehensible how and what dressed fellow countryman-builder lost in the mountains. What scrap and hoe workers did in these godforsaken places was unknown to anyone, but even donkeys at the canal knew that the construction battalion was far from fabricated. For a modest price, Private Altynbaev bargained for painting and dry cleaning ...

        Locked in boxing by the senior ensign, the fighter began to admire himself. The overcoat turned out to be strangely light red in color and with slight traces of previous washings.

        The bright period of life has come. Every evening, the defender of the Motherland sat down comfortably and under the mournful howl “My load is great - a heavy watermelon ...” CHESTS began. He scratched from right to left, left to right, length and breadth. Even in a dream, he continued to scratch. Neighboring cats in batches were dying of envy - they would never experience such a burden.

        Finally, the pile reached the required size and now, instead of a deer, the valiant fighter resembled an albino orangutan, slightly smeared with something white on his belly. Proud of himself to the impossibility, he showed himself under the bright eyes of an awesome battalion. A stub fell out of someone's astonished mouth. It was a piercing moment of the triumph of the desert son. Closing his eyes, Private Altynbaev realized what Tamerlan felt when he looked at the conquered city ... He warmed pleasantly in his chest and was noisy in his ears from the cheering crowd: “You are burning, !!!”. Opening his eyes, he realized that the greeting cry was by no means meant for Tamerlan ...

        In the wind, a combed pile flared instantly from the ashes of a cigarette. Without examining the road, Private Altynbaev immediately rushed to the fire pond and plunged into it with his head.

        The senior warrant officer Kaban, who made a noise at the smoking room when he saw a slightly charred waterfowl gorillo-orangutan in an ear-flaps with a star, could only wave his hand and gently swear in a fatherly way ...
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  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 12 2016 17: 51
    -2
    Mr. Leonov, you carry out more accurate tests there, otherwise there will be enough tribalt and pshek kondrat, again the Russians will be to blame.
  10. Yarik76
    Yarik76 April 12 2016 17: 51
    0
    Less than a hundred years have passed, and he is already on trial. Oh how!
  11. PROKHOR
    PROKHOR April 12 2016 18: 01
    +2
    Stop mocking ... Still building!
  12. egor1712
    egor1712 April 12 2016 18: 02
    +4
    Anyway needed. Each unit is now worth its weight in gold. There will be no excess and work will suffice with the head.
  13. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 12 2016 18: 10
    0
    And why this ship does not have air defense?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 12 2016 18: 12
      +7
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      And why this ship does not have air defense?

      And which of the BDK has it? They alone will not land troops, but will do so under the umbrella of an air defense unit.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 April 12 2016 18: 24
      +10
      Initially, 2 ZRAK Kortik-M (as on the Guardian) + 2 installation is Flexible. Then 2 Broadsword + Bending. Then AK-630M and now it.

      A-190 was also cut down, they put the DUET there.

      This is a landing ship. He must conduct maximum landing / cargo, fulfill his task of delivering this to the shore / pier. The task of destroying the AUG and knocking down the wings of the Super Hornet lies on the escort ships that do not carry troops, but carry a variety of weapons.

      If you push a weapon into the BDK, then it suddenly turns out that the estimate was swollen to the frigate, but he did not become close frigate, but in the landing component he squeezed into 1 / 4.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 12 2016 18: 40
        +3
        Quote: donavi49
        If you push a weapon into the BDK, then it suddenly turns out that the estimate was swollen to the frigate, but he did not become close frigate, but in the landing component he squeezed into 1 / 4.

        Or the landing capabilities remained, but the ship itself approached the size of an aircraft carrier.
        He-he-he ... I immediately recall the third iteration of the Halzan helicopter carrier (Project 10200) - which, after fulfilling all the requirements of the Navy for survivability and security (including air defense), only fit into the corps of the TAVKR 1143. Moreover, that the original 10200 was designed on the basis of a civilian ro-ro. smile
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn April 13 2016 08: 58
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        This is a landing ship. He must conduct maximum landing / cargo, fulfill his task of delivering this to the shore / pier. The task of destroying the AUG and knocking down the wings of the Super Hornet lies on the escort ships that do not carry troops, but carry a variety of weapons.

        This is a blow to the critics of Mistral) lack of strike weapons caused righteous anger among local specialists
    3. Marconi41
      Marconi41 April 13 2016 03: 31
      0
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      And why this ship does not have air defense?

      On landing ships only MANPADS rule. Well, there’s also a universal caliber (artillery), if it gets well.
  14. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA April 12 2016 18: 16
    +4
    The Ivan Gren BDK (project 11711), being built at the Yantar Baltic plant, will begin factory sea trials at the end of this month, the military-industrial complex reports with reference to the chief builder of the enterprise Igor Leonov.

    Do not touch Sumatran macaque! This is the only instance in our country! (C) smile

    However, it’s good that it even came to the ZHI. And then some ships after a long and long construction went to the scrap directly from the factory wall ... and not only with us.
  15. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx April 12 2016 19: 03
    +3
    Quote: 11 black
    The senior warrant officer Kaban, who made a noise at the smoking room when he saw a slightly charred waterfowl gorillo-orangutan in an ear-flaps with a star, could only wave his hand and gently swear in a fatherly way ...

    Oh, oh, pooh! Thanks a lot for the story, it was a difficult day, but while reading, neighing so that the family ran away, already wept, just presented in real life, we had such clowns in our company, just from the southern lands, thanks again, cheer up, class!
  16. egor1712
    egor1712 April 12 2016 19: 41
    +4
    The good news is that the state contract for the repair of the Orel nuclear submarine will be completed on time, the press service of the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center reported. The launch of the ship will take place in May 2016. The ship will be handed over to the Russian Navy in December 2016.
    Project 949A Antey submarines, to which the Oryol belongs, have a displacement of 24 tons, are 154 meters long, over 18 meters wide, are capable of underwater speeds up to 32 knots and dive to a depth of 600 meters. The submarine, the main purpose of which is to destroy enemy aircraft carrier formations, is armed with P-700 Granit cruise missiles and has six torpedo tubes.
  17. proud
    proud April 12 2016 21: 31
    0
    "Vanya" -Really waited ????
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 13 2016 02: 25
    0
    Yes, they torment this ship for a long time.
    I hope that they will finish building and put under the flag.
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 13 2016 07: 05
    0
    “It's no secret that this ship is complex, and there are a lot of questions for the designer and suppliers,” the chief builder noted.

    It turns out an interesting movie, "there are many questions for the designer", and that the shipbuilders no longer settle misunderstandings with the designer and the customer, who else but they see bloopers in the construction process? That's why it took a long time, damn it ...
  20. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn April 13 2016 08: 31
    +1
    This handsome man has long been waiting on the Syrian express! Seven feet under the keel!!!
  21. Demeter
    Demeter April 13 2016 13: 42
    0
    Good news. The more new combat-capable ships in the Russian fleet, the calmer the people can sleep