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MiG-31BM interceptors set a new record

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The MiG-31 supersonic interceptor is known for its high flight characteristics, and also differs from other samples aviation high performance in terms of combat use. Not so long ago, the list of records of this aircraft was replenished with a new record. Pilots of one of the combatant units made the longest non-stop flight in stories aircraft MiG-31.


The record was set during the recent joint exercises of aviation and air defense of the Central Military District, held in late March. As reported by 26 in March, the command of the Central Military District, six MiG-31BM interceptors flew from the Kansk air base (Krasnoyarsk Territory) to Ashuluk base (Astrakhan region). The entire route was covered in one flight, without additional landings. To solve this problem, in view of the existing restrictions, it was necessary to attract tanker aircraft, which helped interceptors to reach the required range.

According to the military, during a record flight, six aircraft covered a distance of about 8 thousand kilometers, which took them 7 hours 4 minutes. The route lay over three federal districts in the airspace of several subjects of the federation. At the same time, as follows from the published data, the aircraft flew not along the shortest path to the destination aerodrome, but moved along a more complex route. Since the route length exceeded the range of MiG-31BM interceptors, Il-78 tankers were involved in the operation. So, during the flight over the Novosibirsk region and the Perm region, three refueling procedures were performed.



It is reported that at the final stage of the flight, the crews of six aircraft engaged in the search and destruction of training targets. Despite the long duration of the previous flight, the pilots successfully coped with the tasks and destroyed the existing targets that were in the airspace of the landfill in the Astrakhan region.

After more than seven hours after departure from the Kansk airfield, all six interceptors arrived at Ashuluk base, where they landed. After arriving at the airfield in the Astrakhan region, the crews of the aircraft began to prepare for the implementation of new combat training tasks. As reported in early April, MiG-31BM aircraft were attracted to intercept training targets at different times of the day and successfully solved similar tasks.

The command of the Central Military District notes that at the moment only the crews of the 14 Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Central Military District have practical experience in long-distance flights on MiG-31BM airplanes with three refueling operations. According to the latest data, champions record holders are presented to state awards.

Recent exercises with a flight to record range are a clear demonstration of the capabilities of the upgraded MiG-31BM interceptor. At present, a program is being implemented to repair and upgrade the MiG-31 front-line of all available modifications to the state of "BM". In the course of such work, the aircraft receive new electronic equipment, which significantly improves their performance. In addition, the nomenclature of weapons available for use by aircraft was markedly expanded.

The main innovation of the MiG-31BM project is the radar Zaslon-M with enhanced characteristics. When using such a radar, the maximum detection range of relatively large air targets reaches 320 km. Objects with EPR at the level of 20 sq. M, according to some data, can be detected from a distance of 400 km. The Zaslon-M station is capable of detecting and tracking 24 air targets, as well as providing simultaneous firing of 8 of them.

As part of the modernization project, a new equipment for the pilot and navigator-operator cockpits was created. A characteristic drawback of the previous modifications of the MiG-31 was the restriction of the information displayed on the crew dashboards. In the course of modernization, aircraft receive updated cabin equipment that solves this problem. Now the pilot can not only control the aircraft, but also monitor the tactical situation in the air, the instruments in the navigator’s workplace are similarly modified.

The main armament of the MiG-31BM remains the long-range air-to-air missiles, the P-33C, according to some reports capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 300 km. It also became possible to carry and use air-to-surface guided missiles of various types designed to engage ground targets, radar stations, ships, etc. In complex managed weapons for destruction of ground objects can be adjusted bombs. Thus, after the modernization of the MiG-31BM ceases to be only an interceptor and is able to perform combat missions of a different kind.

A few years ago, a decision was made concerning the further fate of interceptors of the MiG-31 family. It was proposed to repair and upgrade parts of such equipment for different projects. In particular, it was intended to bring the 31 aircraft to the state of the MiG-60BM. Some other cars had only to go through repairs, and some others, the state of which left much to be desired, were planned to be written off. Reports of the modernization of the MiG-31 project "BM" appeared in 2012-13 years. Soon the necessary work started, which, according to some data, is nearing completion. According to different sources, the armed forces have so far received up-to-date MiG-40BMs up to 50-31.

Successful implementation of the planned modernization of the drill technology allows you to return all the required interceptors to the service, as well as attract them to participate in various exercises. For example, at the end of March several aircraft from the Kansk air base took part in joint air defense and aviation maneuvers of the Central Military District. During this event, the crews of six MiG-31BM interceptors set a new record for the range of similar aircraft. In addition, they carried out the search and destruction of training purposes. Thus, the service of updated technology continues and is accompanied by new achievements.


On the materials of the sites:
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  1. zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga April 13 2016 07: 28
    +4
    Since the route length exceeded the range of MiG-31BM interceptors, Il-78 tankers were involved in the operation. So, during the flight over the Novosibirsk region and the Perm region, three refueling procedures were performed.

    Remarkably, of course, but how many Il-78 tankers remain in the ranks? what
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock April 13 2016 09: 25
      +1
      I wonder how MiG-31 maneuverable to conduct maneuverable air combat say with the F-15? Or all the same, too heavy for close combat ...
      1. Falcon
        Falcon April 13 2016 10: 52
        +8
        Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
        I wonder how MiG-31 maneuverable to conduct maneuverable air combat say with the F-15? Or all the same, too heavy for close combat ...


        Operational overload Mig-31 EMNIP 5g. F-15 9g
        1. opus
          opus April 13 2016 17: 36
          +6
          Quote: Falcon
          Operational overload Mig-31 EMNIP 5g. F-15 9g

          F-15 ^ + 9.0 / -3.0
          F-15A / F-15B ^ + 7.3 / -3.0

          Heavy interceptor:
          Limited maneuverable aircraft (Su-24, Su-25, MiG-25, MiG-31) with a maximum operational Ny lying in the range from 2.5 to 6 units.

          Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
          Or all the same, too heavy for close combat ...


          P-60M / P-60MK to 12 g



          From the rest (R-33 (AA-9), R-40RD / R-40TD (AA-6), R-33 (C), R-73.)
          F-15 has a chance to dodge.
          TK even in the P-40 (AA-6 ACRID): 8g, and the rest 3,5-5g
          1. Falcon
            Falcon April 13 2016 18: 29
            -1
            Quote: opus
            P-60M / P-60MK to 12 g


            Hello Anton! drinks

            It still needs to be pointed at F-15
            1. opus
              opus April 13 2016 19: 28
              +5
              Quote: Falcon
              It still needs to be pointed at F-15



              hi

              Hopefully.
              The carrier must be in the start-up area of ​​the P-60M


              wink

              R-60M - used on airplanes IL-102 (R-60M), MiG-21SMT / SM / M / MF / bis / I, MiG-23M and others. Mod., MiG-25PD and others. Mod., MiG-27, MiG-29 and its mod., MiG-31 / 31M (modified for prolonged heating rockets) Su-15TM, ​​Su-17/20/22, Su-24 and Su-24M (R-60, R-60M and supposedly R-63), Su-25 and its mod., Yak-28PM, Yak-38 / 38M, Yak-141.


              R-60M - modernized almost all-perspective IR GSN OGS-75T "Komar-M" software development "Arsenal" (Kiev ..... belay ) Zoom to 2/4 or even 1/4 (the ability to launch into the front hemisphere of the target when bearing at a certain angle) is provided by cooling the GSN photo detector.
              Targeting angle - sector 34 degrees
              Maximum target displacement speed - 35 deg / s

              Air battle he is good (from RVV is simpler than from cannon):
              1. Bongo
                Bongo April 14 2016 00: 54
                +2
                Quote: opus
                Hopefully.
                The carrier must be in the start-up area of ​​the P-60M

                Anton, you cannot help knowing when the production of P-60M is discontinued. Now they are universally replaced by the P-73.
                1. opus
                  opus April 14 2016 01: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Anton, you cannot help knowing when the production of the R-60M ceased

                  but in service then they stand? 20 years because the period is guaranteed, or?

                  R-60M missile under the wing of the MiG-31DZ. The photo was taken during a sudden check of the air force’s combat readiness at the Pemboy training ground near Vorkuta, May 2013.



                  MiG-31DZ board number 06 with a typical suspension of missiles R-33 and R-60M, Baltimore / Voronezh air base, August 2012


                  R-60M missiles with radio fuses on a double suspension assembly under the MiG-31 wing. Exercise "Vostok-2014", September 2014 (frame of the TV channel "Zvezda").
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Now they are universally replaced by the P-73.

                  Not many MIG-31s ​​have APU-73




                  (although I may be mistaken)

                  Yes, and 73 is BETTER!
                  120 g (or even 180, after launch), the ability to attack enemy air-to-air missiles, 12 G
                  1. Bongo
                    Bongo April 14 2016 01: 28
                    +1
                    Quote: opus
                    although m. I am mistaken

                    Anton, do you have P-73 in your photo?
                    When I was doing an article about Su-24, Sergey Korenkov (ancient) advised me about this. If you believe him (and I believe him) R-60 in our Air Force is no longer there.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov April 14 2016 05: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: Bongo
                      When I was doing an article about Su-24, Sergey Korenkov (ancient) advised me about this. If you believe him (and I believe him) R-60 in our Air Force is no longer there.

                      Hello, Sergey! What is in service, and what is already missing or not yet, no one here can know on our site. Even Sergey Waf
                      R-60M missiles on a double suspension unit under the swivel console of the Su-24MR reconnaissance wing side No. 35 white, Shagol airbase, August 25, 2012 (photo - Vladimir Poluyanov, http://russianplanes.net/id84788).http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/101/eWja1.jpg
                      1. Bongo
                        Bongo April 14 2016 08: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Hello, Sergey! What is in service, and what is already missing or not yet, no one here can know on our site. Even Sergey Waf
                        R-60M missiles on a double suspension unit under the swivel console of the Su-24MP reconnaissance wing, white 35 airbase, Shagol airbase, 25 on August 2012 (photo - Vladimir Poluyanov,

                        Hi Sasha!
                        You are of course right in many ways, but the production of P-60 ceased in the USSR, taking into account the warranty period of storage of 20 years, they should all be decommissioned.

                        This photo was taken 4 years ago, agree that this is not such a short time, but we are talking about that. what is now. In addition, a number of signs show that the Su-24 in the photo is not in flight condition.
                      2. opus
                        opus April 14 2016 11: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: Bongo
                        Hi Sasha!
                        You are of course right in many ways, but the production of the R-60 ceased in the USSR,

                        As far as I understand, the Tbilisi aircraft plant until recently "revived" or even produced the R-60, including for export


                        Address: Prospect Gabriel Berry for Christ. 191. 0144 Tbilisi, Georgia
                        Email: [email protected]
                      3. Bongo
                        Bongo April 14 2016 11: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: opus
                        As far as I understand, the Tbilisi aircraft plant until recently "revived" or even produced the R-60, including for export

                        Anton, and you are the original good Do you want to say that the Georgians delivered us P-60? lol
                      4. opus
                        opus April 14 2016 11: 41
                        +2
                        Quote: Bongo
                        Anton, and you are the original. You want to say that the Georgians delivered us R-60

                        why so? and until 2008, no problem at all.

                        GKL do the Americans deliver to us?
                        For Iskander the same.
                        And what about plutonium for RTGs?
                        And about the mutants from Ukraine?

                        we the Georgians also have a lot to supply / deliver.

                        Russia in 2013 was Georgia's fourth largest trading partner

                        Exports from Georgia to Russia amounted to 274,9 million US dollars
                        - wine for 11,4 million US dollars.
                        - Mineral water at 66,3 million US dollars.
                        You can search further, but the article on military-technical cooperation in the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation is CLOSED
                      5. Bongo
                        Bongo April 14 2016 11: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: opus
                        why so? but before 2008 there’s no problem at all

                        Relations began to deteriorate much earlier ... request
                        Quote: opus
                        Russia in 2013 was Georgia’s fourth largest trading partner

                        Exports from Georgia to Russia amounted to 274,9 million US dollars
                        - wine for 11,4 million US dollars.
                        - Mineral water at 66,3 million US dollars.
                        You can search further, but the article on military-technical cooperation in the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation is CLOSED

                        I don’t think that we are currently cooperating with Georgia in this area. No.
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov April 14 2016 15: 51
                  +2
                  Quote: Bongo
                  This photo was taken 4 years ago, agree this is not such a short time,

                  There are more recent ones, here is 2014
                  R-60M missiles with radio fuses on a double suspension assembly under the MiG-31 wing. Exercise "Vostok-2014", September 2014 (frame of the TV channel "Zvezda").
                  Do you think everything has been replaced in two years?
            2. opus
              opus April 14 2016 11: 07
              +2
              Quote: Bongo
              Anton, do you have P-73 in your photo?

              on the bottom P-73 (M (on the APU-73, it is also easily distinguishable


              1,2,3 photo R-60 (M), it is also easily distinguishable



              photo 4 only with P-33



              just look at the aerial surfaces
              Quote: Bongo
              Sergey Korenkov (ancient) advised me on this occasion.

              I'll write in a personal
              1. Bongo
                Bongo April 14 2016 11: 11
                +2
                Quote: opus
                on the bottom P-73 (M (on the APU-73, it is also easily distinguishable

                I agree, but they probably are no longer in the troops, both due to the development of the resource and low efficiency compared to the P-73.
              2. opus
                opus April 14 2016 11: 34
                +1
                Quote: Bongo
                I agree, but they probably are no longer in the troops, both due to the development of the resource and low efficiency compared to the P-73.

                Earrings, it’s easier for you: took a photo, went to the balcony and took a picture.
                I have to go far. There will be time to take a picture (no photographer from me)

                Of course, the P-73 is more efficient.
                The question was (initially) rhetorical
                Quote: Lt. air force reserve
                MiG-31 maneuverable for conducting maneuverable aerial combat say with the F-15? Or all the same, too heavy for close combat ...

                answer
                Quote: Falcon
                Operational overload Mig-31 EMNIP 5g. F-15 9g

                Cyril probably meant cannon. I talked about the R-60
                With RVV MD there are chances.
                Although if the 31st allowed him to go into the pistol distance, he lost the battle (with a high probability), it is better to flippers in the arms and to the side.
                / Well, this is my opinion, I was not lucky, I am not a flyer, I didn’t come out in health, everything is purely speculative "sofa")
                Quote: Bongo
                as a result of running out of resources

                the resource is long there, even 20 of years that I brought is not a fact, I think more
              3. Bongo
                Bongo April 14 2016 11: 39
                +3
                Quote: opus
                the resource is long there, even 20 of years that I brought is not a fact, I think more

                I do not own such information, but let’s say the resource of the 5B55RM missiles is 10 years. Then they were taken to the plant for renewal. I don’t understand how in Ukraine they exploit their C-300PS. Although they are puffing with repairs and modernization there, I somehow do not really believe in it.
              4. opus
                opus April 14 2016 11: 47
                +2
                Quote: Bongo
                SAM 5V55RM - 10 le

                then missiles.
                1. There the bookmark for other temperatures / pressures is calculated (you do not fly with missiles at 10 m, at -000 ° C, starting from the ground at + 50 ° C)
                2. Bookmark thickness.
                Well, you remember the probability and rate of degradation of a solid propellant rocket charge depends on its mass and thickness to the outer wall.
                This is physics and dialectics "the transition of quantity to quality"
                Quote: Bongo
                I don’t understand how in Ukraine they operate their S-300PS.


                1. This is not a Shuttle booster and not a trident (the volume is not the same)
                2. If there is a technologist. the base can and "upgrade" the charge.
              5. Bongo
                Bongo April 14 2016 11: 50
                +1
                Quote: opus
                1. This is not a Shuttle booster and not a trident (the volume is not the same)
                2. If there is a technologist. the base can and "upgrade" the charge.

                You see, I had a little to do with air defense in the past. It's not just a matter of "charge renewal", electronics in 25 years, even if not turned on, also inevitably degrades. You don't need to explain how the characteristics of electrolytes change and resistors dry.
              6. opus
                opus April 14 2016 11: 58
                +2
                Quote: Bongo
                You see, in the past I was a little related to air defense.

                I'm afraid you and I were dealing with products of the same age, i.e. our memories are "not entirely competent" to the current state of affairs.
                Quote: Bongo
                It's not just a matter of "charge renewal", electronics for 25 years,

                the charge is the most "gentle" in this sense and difficult to change.
                And the rest, well, Ukraine is not a banana republic (it was in any case).
                I won’t argue. Maybe they have 300 just for the parade (then I don’t understand them).
              7. Bongo
                Bongo April 14 2016 12: 04
                +1
                Quote: opus
                the charge is the most "gentle" in this sense and difficult to change.

                When the missiles were sent for "extension" they were completely disassembled, and not just the propulsion system. It is no coincidence that I mention the old "products", 5V55RM are still in operation here.
                Quote: opus
                And the rest, well, Ukraine is not a banana republic (it was in any case).
                I won’t argue. Maybe they have 300 just for the parade (then I don’t understand them).

                But it is rapidly turning into it. The bulk of their anti-aircraft systems and systems will die in the next few years.
            3. Malkor
              Malkor April 19 2016 22: 44
              +1
              The father-in-law of the former military acceptance says that periodically on the missiles the battery and other equipment change, no one canceled the mouth.
  • Falcon
    Falcon April 14 2016 08: 43
    +2
    Quote: opus
    Hopefully.
    The carrier must be in the start-up area of ​​the P-60M


    This is the problem. 31 has no OLS. for example, P-73 induces OLS i.e. aircraft maneuverability already plays a lesser role.
    In the video with the Su-25, it is indicative of aiming, which means you need to actively maneuver.
    1. opus
      opus April 14 2016 11: 20
      +1
      Quote: Falcon
      This is the problem. 31st does not have OLS

      most of these
      Quote: opus
      IL-102 (R-60M), MiG-21SMT / SM / M / MF / bis / I, MiG-23M and others. Mod., MiG-25PD and others. Mod., MiG-27, MiG-29 and its mod., MiG-31 / 31M (version of missiles modified for prolonged heating), Su-15TM, ​​Su-17/20/22, Su-24 and Su-24M (R-60, R-60M and supposedly R-63) , Su-25 and its mod., Yak-28PM, Yak-38 / 38M, Yak-141.

      Also no.

      As far as I understand for the R-60, the BPUL-35 backlight is NOT needed at all.
      capture and auto tracking - discard.
      search, detection - there are radar.
      For R-60, the "working" range is 500-2000m.
      Pilot eyes

      Quote: Falcon
      sight, then you need to actively maneuver.

      well, even from simple geometry (capture angle)), range ... not so active.
      Otherwise for IL-102 it is a dead weight
      1. Falcon
        Falcon April 14 2016 11: 36
        -1
        Quote: opus
        well, even from simple geometry (capture angle)), range ... not so active.
        Otherwise for IL-102 it is a dead weight


        The approach speed of the F-15 with the Mig-31 will be approximately 500 m / s belay
        You need to twist the circles all the same request

        More likely against turntables, and for moral peace
        1. opus
          opus April 14 2016 11: 53
          0
          Quote: Falcon
          The approach speed of the F-15 with the Mig-31 will be approximately 500 m / s

          and in the tail? And "intercept by azimuth".
          Cyril will not argue, I'm not a flyer (no luck)
          Quote: Falcon
          , and for moral peace

          I would not have to drag the DEAR little thing if it makes no sense.
      2. sivuch
        sivuch April 15 2016 02: 33
        +2
        Can I quote myself?
        For the first time, the Air Force received a missile, not only capable of hitting targets maneuvering with 6-7 units overloads. (according to some reports and more), but also almost without imposing restrictions on the carrier aircraft (permissible overload - 7) and almost without dead zone. An uncooled GOS was used on it, having a coordinator pumping angle of +/- 45 °, a targeting angle of 12 °, and an angular tracking speed of up to 30 ° / s. The R-60M missile received a cooled GOS capable of receiving target designation within the limits of the pumping angle, including, as already mentioned from the Metka-Ts joystick on the RUS, and had an instantaneous capture angle of 2.5 °. The missile could attack targets in angles 1 / 4-4 / 4, in addition, its warhead was increased from 3 to 3.5 kg. R-60M appeared in service in the late 70s (various sources write from 1977 to 1979). The MK modification is considered to be purely exported, however, it had warheads with depleted uranium rods and improved cooling of the gas mains. The effective range of the R-60 / 60M / MK missiles was 0.2-1.5 km at altitudes up to 5 km and height / 2 at large.
        But I can not cram the picture with the start zones
  • sivuch
    sivuch April 15 2016 02: 24
    0
    Actually, at edition 520 the maximum permissible overload of the target is 8. If there are at least 2 missiles, it is difficult to dodge.
  • Berg berg
    Berg berg April 13 2016 14: 02
    +3
    And how maneuverable the swift against the butterfly!
  • Yuri from Volgograd
    Yuri from Volgograd April 16 2016 11: 38
    +1
    Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
    I wonder how MiG-31 maneuverable to conduct maneuverable air combat say with the F-15? Or all the same, too heavy for close combat ...

    Not maneuverable)
    Turning radius 10 km)
    He has other tasks.
  • FID
    FID April 13 2016 09: 55
    +3
    Quote: zyablik.olga
    Remarkably, of course, but how many Il-78 tankers remain in the ranks?

    One regiment, in Ryazan ...
  • Alex_59
    Alex_59 April 13 2016 13: 04
    +1
    Quote: zyablik.olga
    Remarkably, of course, but how many Il-78 tankers remain in the ranks?

    22 aircraft, of which 2 is in storage, 1 passes the CWR. Of the remaining 19, 16-17 work regularly.
  • dsm100
    dsm100 April 13 2016 08: 00
    +3
    In order, IL-78 remained in order, but they are all ancient as the remains of a mammoth.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo April 13 2016 10: 19
      +1
      Quote: dsm100
      In order, IL-78 remained in order, but they are all ancient as the remains of a mammoth.

      How much is this?
      Quote: SSI
      One regiment, in Ryazan ...

      Sergey Ivanovich, if my memory doesn’t fail me, did you write that there are 8 units in the ranks?
      1. FID
        FID April 13 2016 11: 54
        +3
        Quote: Bongo
        Sergey Ivanovich, if my memory doesn’t fail me, did you write that there are 8 units in the ranks?

        From one regiment ... The rest on earth ...
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 April 13 2016 12: 53
          +2
          Quote: SSI
          From one regiment ... The rest on earth ...

          You're wrong. Minimum 16 wings on the wing, one passes the CWR. Infa here: http://russianplanes.net/planelist/Ilushin/Il-76/78/A-50
          If you are not lazy, on this site you can find photographs in the air on each side for the 2015-16 years, which confirms their flight suitability.
          As for "there was only one regiment" - it was one regiment of the 203rd APSZ in Diaghilevo after the collapse of the USSR, so it remains. Before the collapse of the USSR, the Il-78 also had only one regiment - this is the 409th APSZ in Uzin. His equipment went to Ukraine, these were IL-78s of early years of production, and all of them were resold by Ukrainians to Pakistan, Algeria and others, and partly cut. The 203rd APSZ was reorganized from a bomber to a filling station after the collapse of the USSR and was equipped with relatively young Il-78s, produced in 1988-1991. They still fly and fly.
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS April 13 2016 13: 04
            +1
            Quote: Alex_59
            They still have to fly and fly.

            Well, yes, there’ll be no new ones.
            1. Alex_59
              Alex_59 April 13 2016 13: 14
              0
              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              Well, yes, there’ll be no new ones.

              Firstly - why do you need new ones? The boundaries of the extension of the raid 30 000 hours and 8000 cycles. For the majority of IL-76 / 78 1986-1991 years of production for the 2015 year, the operating time was about 6-7 thousand hours and 2-4 thousand cycles. Those. in raid, the resource is less than a third depleted, and in cycles not more than 40-50%. This is for 25-30 years of operation. So, in theory, even before 2045, they can fly with quality service.
              And secondly, there will still be new ones, I hope.
          2. FID
            FID April 13 2016 13: 20
            +1
            Quote: Alex_59
            You're wrong. Minimum 16 wing sides

            I have only 15 cars on the register, and for 4 (30,34,35,36) extreme flights were a few years ago. So, not 8, but 11. But 8 was about a year and a half ago ...
            1. Alex_59
              Alex_59 April 13 2016 13: 35
              +2
              Quote: SSI
              moreover, for 4's (30,34,35,36) extreme flights were a few years ago

              Well I do not know.
              30-blue: here is a photo of July 2014 in the air: http://russianplanes.net/id141323
              34-blue: "For February 2015, repairs are underway at 360 ARZ" http://russianplanes.net/reginfo/30006
              35-blue: "For February 2015, repairs are underway at 360 ARZ" http://russianplanes.net/reginfo/1709
              36-blue: January photo 2015 in the air: http://russianplanes.net/id155059

              That is, 34 and 35 are not sawn, and repairs are underway, which is good. And the 30 and 36 are kind of like flying.
              1. FID
                FID April 13 2016 13: 49
                +2
                Quote: Alex_59
                That is, 34 and 35 are not sawn, and repairs are underway, which is good. And the 30 and 36 are kind of like flying.

                From the same register:
                30 - extreme flight March 2014 (2 years ago, possibly CWR)
                34 - Extreme Flight December 2012 (4 years ago)
                35 - May 2014 (2 years ago)
                36 - January 2015 (almost 1.5 years ago)
                But I agree with you, they are NOT sawed, but they are all nothing and everything for Dalniy and strategists ...
                1. Alex_59
                  Alex_59 April 13 2016 14: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: SSI
                  But I agree with you, they are NOT sawed, but they are all nothing and everything for Dalniy and strategists ...

                  Yes, there are few of them, but even in Soviet times, with refuellers it was somehow not very. To the huge fleet, the KS-135 was clearly far away. Well, they have to tour all over the country.
                  Here is my photo: http://russianplanes.net/id185088 - they came to work with our MiG-31, though this is A-50, but IL-78 also arrived.
  • DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer April 13 2016 08: 46
    +4
    Get fucked - 8 hours in a tight booth, without the possibility, I apologize, normally pour. Part of this time at supersonic, three refueling - this is a very grueling flight!
    What is he showing? In any border region of the country, forces can be quickly deployed and immediately thrown to gain air superiority. This is a very illustrative example, in case of the destruction of border-based airfields. In fact, these are advanced cover forces for deploying the main forces at nearby surviving airfields.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 13 2016 08: 56
      +2
      Quote: DimerVladimer
      Get fucked - 8 hours in a cramped booth, without the possibility, I apologize, normally pour

      and "diapers"?
      1. FID
        FID April 13 2016 14: 04
        +3
        Yes, they have adaptations for "casting", as well as on the Tu-22M3 (urinals on a flexible hose, they "dedicate" newcomers to the bike that this is an SPU (airplane intercom) and ask to talk to the back or front cabin).
    2. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock April 13 2016 09: 28
      +1
      Quote: DimerVladimer
      Get fucked - 8 hours in a tight booth, without the possibility, I apologize, normally pour. Part of this time at supersonic, three refueling - this is a very grueling flight!

      We need massage seats to be massaged in flight.
  • VeteranVS
    VeteranVS April 13 2016 08: 55
    +2
    Quote: dsm100
    In order, IL-78 remained in order, but they are all ancient as the remains of a mammoth.

    Quote: zyablik.olga
    Since the route length exceeded the range of MiG-31BM interceptors, Il-78 tankers were involved in the operation. So, during the flight over the Novosibirsk region and the Perm region, three refueling procedures were performed.

    Remarkably, of course, but how many Il-78 tankers remain in the ranks? what

    this is only half of the question, the second half is no less important: to whom are the refuelers subordinate promptly? right, "long-distance". in case of a mess, your own shirt .... or will agree to the end of the mess. And yet, what record is the author talking about? by arithmetic, we have a ferry range of less than 2000 km. a quarter of a century ago, the Su-27 (of the early series!), not really straining, walked the Rogachevo-Crimean route as a group without refueling. and no one called the su-27 a long-range interceptor
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 13 2016 15: 47
      +1
      Because the Su-27 is more economical and specially created in order to fly no faster than others, but much further without idiocy like hanging a bunch of PTB aircraft.
      1. dyksi
        dyksi April 13 2016 16: 12
        +2
        The MiG-31, the combat radius reaches 3000 km, the Su-35 1500 km. combat radius and do not compare them at all. The only full-fledged interception system we have is the MiG-31, and the T-50 cannot compete with it in this. Nowadays, it is the most dangerous interceptor in the world and no one has created the best yet. The MiG-41 will be created on the basis of the MiG-31, all the filling and engines will of course be different. First you go around the sites, study the fighters seriously and then you will no longer write such comments.
        1. VeteranVS
          VeteranVS April 13 2016 19: 29
          +1
          I apologize of course, but YOU are wrong, to say the least. the combat radius is: take-off THERE- 5 minutes of a fight THERE-HOME FROM THERE. if you lay out the route in a straight line, (driving), take into account that the interceptor for war in cruising (economical) mode does not fly and does not fight, i.e. more than half of the route increased fuel consumption times 1.5 times, it turns out (with your version of the combat radius) a ferry range of about 8000 km. why 3 refueling? help for you: the combat radius of the MiG-31 is expressed with a three-digit number (in km)
        2. opus
          opus April 14 2016 14: 25
          -1
          Quote: dyksi
          The MiG-31, the combat radius reaches 3000km,

          belay
          3000km is cool, at 31BM, without PTB, practical range of 2500km

          0,72 kg / kgf · h (at best)

          so on the knee 9000 kgf (I take 9500 kgf not take-off), we multiply by 2
          we get = 12 960 kg / h fuel consumption.
          - 20 (30%) modes, height, temperature, total = 10 000 kg / hour

          fuel reserve (without PTB) = 17330 kg (39150 kg-21820 kg)

          FOR MY EVERYTHING IS CLEAR WITH
          Quote: dyksi
          combat radius

          ?


          Combat range, km
          without PTB with a speed of M 1 720
          with PTB with a speed of M 1 1200
          c PTB with a speed of M 1 1400
          with one refueling at a speed of M 1 2000

          SU-27 Combat radius of 1500 km (- / +)
          IT AND UNDERSTAND

          2x0.67 kg / kgf • h specific fuel consumption
          2x7600 kG thrust remote control
          fuel 9400 kg (12000 l at a density of 0.785)

          5092 kg / hour of fuel eats.
          Maybe where I made a mistake ...
  • Mavric
    Mavric April 13 2016 10: 17
    0
    Quote: VeteranVS
    Quote: dsm100
    In order, IL-78 remained in order, but they are all ancient as the remains of a mammoth.

    Quote: zyablik.olga
    Since the route length exceeded the range of MiG-31BM interceptors, Il-78 tankers were involved in the operation. So, during the flight over the Novosibirsk region and the Perm region, three refueling procedures were performed.

    Remarkably, of course, but how many Il-78 tankers remain in the ranks? what

    this is only half of the question, the second half is no less important: to whom are the refuelers subordinate promptly? right, "long-distance". in case of a mess, your own shirt .... or will agree to the end of the mess. And yet, what record is the author talking about? by arithmetic, we have a ferry range of less than 2000 km. a quarter of a century ago, the Su-27 (of the early series!), not really straining, walked the Rogachevo-Crimean route as a group without refueling. and no one called the su-27 a long-range interceptor

    Well, as if the Su-27 had slightly different tasks, the 4 Mig-31s control a 600 km strip along the front, and a long flight with supersonic sound.
    1. VeteranVS
      VeteranVS April 13 2016 11: 00
      -1
      less (how much?) 8000km, for 7.04 in time. what is the long flight to supersonic?
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 13 2016 15: 48
        0
        It will be very conditional for a long time, fuel will run out.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 13 2016 15: 49
      0
      Yeah, it’s exactly that the MiG-31 has different tasks and if refueling is necessary for it, then something is being done wrong. Refueling it makes sense only when on duty in the air.
  • mvg
    mvg April 13 2016 11: 47
    +3
    Ahrenet, 7 hours .. 3 refueling .. Poor NATO pilots, sometimes they fly for days .. (of course on bombers). But 3-4 refueling in the air for the F-15/16 is not news.
    It is clear that it is not an ordinary flight for 50-60 minutes, but you do not need to make something supernatural out of this, and immediately to the "Hero's Star"
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion April 13 2016 15: 45
    0
    All this, of course, is interesting, but what is the practical sense in this? Machines are not designed for such long flights, the MiG-31 mission, take-off, interception, destruction, and return. The tasks of escorting percussion machines are not posed before them and will not be set for this. There are Su-27 derivatives. For distillation operations, it is easier to make one or two landings. how to attract expensive refuelers.
    1. FID
      FID April 13 2016 17: 30
      +1
      And if there are no airdromes ???
  • realist
    realist April 13 2016 19: 49
    0
    American friends create a technique of gaining superiority, a means of attacking the enemy. At the same time, it’s clear that flying to the goal will come from far away - and here is the result, a kind of technical school. We have slightly different tasks - defending borders, and the technique is slightly different.
  • mvg
    mvg April 13 2016 21: 29
    -1
    Quote: SSI
    And if there are no airdromes ???

    What is it like? They do not go for export, because they are not needed by anyone. Enough for the protection of its borders - airfields. Even in Novaya Zemlya, it seems, they did it ... They still have no opportunity to intercept the strategists who launch the KR from 3-5 thousand km. Their goals are AWACS (Hokai with options) or Poseidons (options). In the fighter version of winning excellence, not a ride. Actually, I don’t see the tangible advantages of this aircraft .. Only that we have about 3 hundred of them .. and modernization is still needed, and there is simply nothing to replace.
    PS: Tell me, what does he do the best? Don't just talk about "Zaslon" and speed, and what can act as a "command" car .. All this is rather arbitrary .. But the "minuses" of the aircraft - a lot.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo April 14 2016 01: 00
      +1
      Quote: mvg
      What is it like? They do not go for export, because they are not needed by anyone. Enough for the protection of its borders - airfields. Even in the New Earth, it seems, they did ..

      Unfortunately Maxim is missing ... No.

      Map of Russian military airdromes as of 2014


      In China and the United States, the airfield network is many times larger. We have a lot of airfields over the past 20 years eliminated. Most of the existing ones need repair and modernization.
      1. Falcon
        Falcon April 14 2016 09: 32
        +1
        Quote: Bongo
        Map of Russian military airdromes as of 2014


        Hi Seryoga!

        Add my 5 cents smile


        Gray former, red acting.
        1. Falcon
          Falcon April 14 2016 09: 39
          0
          It's even cooler, though the GA is here too. And then there the filter was not quite right.
        2. Bongo
          Bongo April 14 2016 09: 42
          +1
          Quote: Falcon
          Gray former, red acting.

          Hi, Kirill!
          Your map is formally operating airfields, but not all of them are now based. Well, and what side did Mongolia hit? what My taken from this resource, I recommend it.
          http://geimint.blogspot.ru/
          1. Falcon
            Falcon April 14 2016 09: 53
            -1
            Quote: Bongo
            Mongolia which side hit?


            Well, yes, not without jambs fellow
            1. Bongo
              Bongo April 14 2016 09: 57
              +1
              Quote: Falcon
              Well, yes, not without jambs

              It happens! Read these enthusiastic screams about Cook on a nearby branch? wassat
              1. Falcon
                Falcon April 14 2016 10: 13
                -1
                Quote: Bongo
                It happens! Read these enthusiastic screams about Cook on a nearby branch?


                I ran over your tip.

                It is a pity that again Khibina did not burn his radars, and did not destroy all the electronics wassat
                But what about the crew? He a couple of months all resigned, according to our state media? belay We recruited quickly, it seems not so difficult to serve on the destroyer laughing

                But by the way, 24 went beautifully - very low. yes At 34, I think it will be even more difficult - shaking torments ...
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo April 14 2016 10: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: Falcon
                  It is a pity that again Khibina did not burn his radars, and did not destroy all the electronics
                  But what about the crew? He a couple of months all resigned, according to our state media? We recruited quickly, it seems not so difficult to serve on the destroyer

                  laughing
                  Quote: Falcon
                  But by the way, 24 went beautifully - very low. At 34, I think it will be even more difficult - shaking torments ...

                  Yes, and the Su-34 would have been able to, there is no such talk over the sea. Moreover, it decreased for a short time.
    2. opus
      opus April 14 2016 17: 36
      -1
      Quote: mvg
      Enough for the protection of its borders - airfields.

      ?

      So for reference, we have (BIGGEST COUNTRY on the Globe) of airfields from 270 to 300, units.

      The USA has airfields for 14000 units (and maybe already for more)
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    4. vlad575nso
      vlad575nso 7 May 2016 21: 38
      0
      Quote: mvg
      Quote: SSI
      And if there are no airdromes ???

      What is it like? They do not go for export, because they are not needed by anyone. Enough for the protection of its borders - airfields. Even in Novaya Zemlya, it seems, they did it ... They still have no opportunity to intercept the strategists who launch the KR from 3-5 thousand km. Their goals are AWACS (Hokai with options) or Poseidons (options). In the fighter version of winning excellence, not a ride. Actually, I don’t see the tangible advantages of this aircraft .. Only that we have about 3 hundred of them .. and modernization is still needed, and there is simply nothing to replace.
      PS: Tell me, what does he do the best? Don't just talk about "Zaslon" and speed, and what can act as a "command" car .. All this is rather arbitrary .. But the "minuses" of the aircraft - a lot.

      To combat cruise missiles launched from strategists.
  • vik3027
    vik3027 April 14 2016 06: 16
    0
    PAK FA with unguided bombs
  • shoemaker
    shoemaker April 14 2016 16: 12
    -1
    Guys, what are we talking about. What muck can rise to the height at which it flies? Our airliner, if not from God, then from us. And let him cut the adversary quietly and seriously.