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Three soldiers who escaped from a psychiatric ward are suspected of killing nurses at 442 St. Petersburg District Hospital

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In St. Petersburg, a special operation is conducted to search for and detain suspects in the murder of nurses of the 442 District Military Hospital (ZPP Solovyov Hospital). According to the St. Petersburg police, three servicemen who were treated in a hospital may be involved in the murder. RIA News, referring to its own law enforcement source in the northern capital, reports that 1952-year-old David Ziganshin, an ordinary technical support platoon of one of the military sector of the Leningrad Region, is considered to be the immediate killer of nurses Nadezhda Ivanova 1963 and Olga Gorokhovoy


Three soldiers who escaped from a psychiatric ward are suspected of killing nurses at 442 St. Petersburg District Hospital


Both women were strangled. Numerous knife wounds were found on the body of one of the victims.

In the hospital, they report that three patients disappeared from the psychiatric ward of the military medical institution after the murder of nurses. Two of them are servicemen serving in conscription: the aforementioned David Ziganshin and A. Tomsky are a private platoon. The third is a cadet of the Military Space Academy named after Mozhaysky. This S. Datsenko 1997 b.

AT "Komsomolskaya Pravda"An interview with David Ziganshin's girlfriend Maria was published. She said that David went into the army himself," not becoming a mow ", and had a" pathologically kind character. "At the same time, she noted that Ziganshin had extrasensory abilities and" saw ghosts, who asked him for help. ”According to Mary, David Ziganshin“ could heal people. ”

One of the patients, according to media reports, was admitted to hospital in February with a diagnosis of "psychopathy."

The alleged motives for the crime and the level of responsibility of the hospital staff (from the guard) are not reported.
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  1. Andreitas
    Andreitas April 12 2016 12: 39
    +21
    Where did the medical board at the military enlistment office look?
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 April 12 2016 12: 49
      +28
      "Someone said somewhere. Komsomolskaya Pravda ... (yellow press). Some kind of friend, psychic ...".
      Rave. First, catch, investigate, conduct an examination, then spread the article.
      There are only rumors.
      1. Mahmut
        Mahmut April 12 2016 12: 58
        +10
        And what did the cadet of the military academy in this mournful institution. There, after all, the medical board - don’t worry, mom, all sores will be opened and rejected instantly upon admission.
        1. Homo
          Homo April 12 2016 13: 24
          +4
          Quote: Mahmut
          And what did the cadet of the military academy in this mournful institution. There, after all, the medical board - don’t worry, mom, all sores will be opened and rejected instantly upon admission.

          The loads could not stand it.
          1. 1rl141
            1rl141 April 12 2016 18: 05
            +3
            Quote: Homo
            Quote: Mahmut
            And what did the cadet of the military academy in this mournful institution. There, after all, the medical board - don’t worry, mom, all sores will be opened and rejected instantly upon admission.

            The loads could not stand it.


            In the distant Soviet times, when I was also a cadet, I studied with a guy. I was a very excellent pupil, the teachers just squealed with delight. At the end of the first year I began to independently study the 2-year program. He was no longer interested in going to classes with us. He was a kid, like a kid, he didn’t notice anything special behind him. Besides the incredible craving for knowledge. But this was only encouraged. And at the end of the 2nd year, they began to notice his inappropriate behavior. He could fail, at will, sit down and read the textbook. Well, other oddities, but not violent. In general, to his medical unit. Then to the hospital, he returned to our medical unit again. He spent about six months there and was commissioned. All this time he was examined, fed with some pills, but he remained quietly mad. They thought that he had begun to mow. But no. He was lying in the medical unit, didn’t communicate with anyone, he would come to the nurse, take the pills, drink and read books in the ward. It seemed that his schizos had mowed down. Something mild.
            But still he left a mark on history. His surname became a household name for the company in which he studied.
            So that's what I am for. The military commissariat doctors will not have enough time to identify this disease. Yes, and maybe it did not appear in him before some kind of stressful situation.
            So did this VKA cadet, while my mother was sitting well under her skirt, and got into a stressful situation and was quietly rustling with slate, the roof goes slowly ...
        2. Corporal Valera
          Corporal Valera April 12 2016 13: 29
          +4
          Quote: Mahmut
          And what did the cadet of the military academy in this mournful institution.

          Purely interesting: and with whom does the daddy work for the student?
        3. vic58
          vic58 April 12 2016 13: 42
          +1
          There is tanga - no disease, no tanga - expelled for health! hi
        4. Maksus
          Maksus April 12 2016 19: 25
          -1
          He was treated, what else? What have never seen the suicides, who in the opening the first group of professional selection put? Weren't you in our army?
      2. Sibbars
        Sibbars April 12 2016 13: 09
        +1
        Schia will begin where the kindergarten, school, parents, the military enlistment office looked.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 12 2016 13: 24
          +1
          There are a lot of psychos in Russia and almost all of them are uncontrolled.
          1. 1rl141
            1rl141 April 12 2016 18: 56
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            There are a lot of psychos in Russia and almost all of them are uncontrolled.


            Vostin so! Because wisdom says "If you were released from a mental hospital, it does not mean that you were cured. You just became" like everyone else. "
            Those who are still in the mental hospital remain under control.
      3. Serg koma
        Serg koma April 13 2016 06: 47
        0
        According to official figures from the Main Military Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation three escaped soldiers were detained on April 12 at 14.15 p.m. while trying to cross the state border of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Finland. A message about this appeared on the management website three hours later.
    2. demo
      demo April 12 2016 13: 04
      +2
      Where did you look ?!
      He himself came. I didn’t mow. And the fact that ghosts turned to him for help and he heals people is not a reason to issue a yellow ticket.
      Such a normal guy.
    3. EvaFerrari
      EvaFerrari April 12 2016 13: 06
      +4
      The medical board may have nothing to do with it, because treatment in the psychiatric ward is not limited to notorious schizophrenics and psychopaths. Here, people undergoing stress, for example, can undergo rehabilitation.

      Nothing is known about this Ziganshin, none of us is familiar with the history of his illness, we don’t know what reason he was undergoing treatment for (or was he at an examination that should have recognized him sane / insane ???).

      As one well-known serial character says: "We will catch, we will ask"
      1. your1970
        your1970 April 12 2016 18: 45
        +2
        Already caught:

        ST. PETERSBURG, April 12. / TASS /. Military personnel suspected of killing two nurses at a military district hospital in St. Petersburg were detained in the state border zone in the Vyborg district of the Leningrad Region. This was reported by TASS in the Frontier Directorate of the FSB of the Russian Federation for St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region.
        According to the agency, the suspects were sent towards the border with Finland and were detained in the vicinity of the village of Storozhevoy in the border zone.
        “Three persons wanted on suspicion of murder in a military hospital in St. Petersburg were detained at about 13:50 Moscow time in the border zone thanks to timely measures.

        More on TASS:
        http://tass.ru/proisshestviya/3197115
    4. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 12 2016 13: 30
      +13
      Damn, some kind of madhouse today, a helicopter, nurses, the negative is rushing today, and today is cosmonautics day. request Hope to catch these ghouls.
      1. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few April 12 2016 15: 13
        -1
        The year is a leap year, and when they are detected, the fire to defeat. There is nothing to live on this scum. How many killers are getting deadlines sitting on the neck of the people. In your situations, the principle of blood for blood should act, I am not bloodthirsty, but everyone should answer for what they have done according to the severity of the perfect.
    5. vic58
      vic58 April 12 2016 13: 40
      0
      Into the wallet ... repeat
    6. My doctor
      My doctor April 12 2016 13: 50
      +1
      At the same time, the girl noted that Ziganshin had extrasensory abilities and "saw ghosts who asked him for help."


      Quote: Andreitas
      Where did the medical board at the military enlistment office look?
      Perhaps the time allotted for one conscript turned out to be insufficient, but if facts about "psychic" abilities had surfaced in the survey, it might have been all right.
    7. Altona
      Altona April 12 2016 14: 37
      +1
      Quote: Andreitas
      Where did the medical board at the military enlistment office look?

      ----------------------
      I watched the ghosts with the patient, the ghosts said that everything was fine.
    8. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin April 12 2016 14: 45
      +3
      With me in the same company served a hunchback nicknamed "goblin" and a stutterer. The first went to the army, because I wanted to prove to everyone that he was no worse than others, and the second was in the case of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. It was a tryndets when the stutterer, being an orderly, tried to complete the report, the colonel said five minutes later, come on, everything is clear. And when the hunchback is a junior sergeant on duty in the company, lying down on his legs, he tried to limp to the lieutenant colonel at night for a report - just "under the table". Good luck to all of them in civilian life.
      But my eldest was taken to the army with a head injury, they wrote "healthy". And the military prosecutor's office replied: Yes, your son was summoned illegally, you can sue.
      They take damn everyone, especially those who do not mind.
    9. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K April 12 2016 15: 51
      0
      Quote: Andreitas
      Where did the medical board at the military enlistment office look?

      And where was the medical board supposed to look? Before the army, they were not registered in the mental hospital. And 99% of people do not believe in the mystical abilities of some people, and the medical board does not ask such questions like "Citizen conscript, do you communicate with ghosts? Or maybe you can move objects with the effort of thought?" etc. Therefore, the medical board let them through, ordinary guys, normally physically built.
      1. Altona
        Altona April 12 2016 18: 43
        0
        Quote: Алексей_К
        And where was the medical board supposed to look? Before the army, they were not registered in the mental hospital. And 99% of people do not believe in the mystical abilities of some people, and the medical board does not ask such questions like "Citizen conscript, do you communicate with ghosts?"

        --------------------
        The pupils could at least be seen. And do not sit with your eyes buried in the medical card of the draftee. To ask if there is a woman in civilian life or some social problems. And with the ghosts we already have half the killers talking. He killed his grandmother because of the apartment, an excuse-ghosts ordered, did not know what he was doing.
        1. Maksus
          Maksus April 12 2016 19: 28
          +2
          What pupils? Do you have a medical education to determine mental disorders in the pupils? Can you diagnose fractures without an x-ray? Watch less TV ...
    10. Jonson
      Jonson April 12 2016 18: 39
      -2
      And when was the commission last time looking somewhere besides a pocket and a wallet ????
    11. 4ekist
      4ekist April 12 2016 22: 48
      0
      I hope that their further stay will be in places "not so remote" and for a long time. Thugs who killed women older than their mothers. Now let them sit on bunks and go on a parachute.
    12. Nekarmadlen
      Nekarmadlen April 12 2016 23: 07
      0
      A doctor, whose patient is always absolutely healthy, works at the military registration and enlistment office ...
  2. salad
    salad April 12 2016 12: 39
    0
    P ..... u arrived am
  3. Fregate
    Fregate April 12 2016 12: 40
    +5
    And what did the patients of the psychiatric wards do in the army? I have no words.
  4. avva2012
    avva2012 April 12 2016 12: 40
    +7
    At the same time, the girl noted that Ziganshin had extrasensory abilities and "saw ghosts who asked him for help." According to Mary, David Ziganshin "could heal people."

    Yes, VVK at the place of residence, should receive in full. Unless, of course, at the place of residence, the specialists remained.
    1. Maksus
      Maksus April 12 2016 21: 46
      0
      Do you understand how the medical board works? The task of the medical board is to reject by paper and check at the level - 2 hands, 2 legs, see-hear, and where you can let him go with such vision-hearing. If a person is not registered with the IPA, then the medical board will not reveal him, she does not have such opportunities. It’s as if the psychiatrist themselves didn’t pass before passing the rights.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 April 13 2016 04: 40
        0
        Quote: Maksus Do you understand how the medical board works? The task of the medical board is to reject by paper and check at the level - 2 hands, 2 legs, see-hear, and where you can let him go with such vision-hearing. If a person is not registered with the IPA, then the medical board will not reveal him, she does not have such opportunities. It’s as if the psychiatrist themselves didn’t pass before passing the rights.

        I understand how it works. In fact, then it is. The rules need to be changed. To get a job in the police or in another power structure, questionnaires are filled out, undergo an in-depth examination by a psychologist. At the present time, the army is not as large as in the USSR, therefore, starting from the assigned age, it is necessary, in my opinion, to more actively collect data on the future conscript. Ah, then, crazy. the patient committed a crime in Gyumri, now, they killed honey. sisters. Two years before the call, without much fuss, finding out that this guy was a "psychic" is not a problem. hi
  5. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist April 12 2016 12: 41
    +8
    I do not understand how the "psychic" could initially be drafted into the army?
  6. Sorokin
    Sorokin April 12 2016 12: 41
    -6
    There were enough madhounds in our army. What is the article about? Detain and shoot, albeit in a subspace.
    1. Sorokin
      Sorokin April 12 2016 15: 47
      -4
      Creatures freaked out shoot. And the naughty women there too.
      1. Sorokin
        Sorokin April 12 2016 15: 57
        -3
        He served in hazing. Then the grandfathers from the bullet covered. And loonies and lawlessness themselves ended. We did not have time to write off the convoy.
        1. Sorokin
          Sorokin April 20 2016 19: 25
          0
          DRUGS AND TARGETS DEGRADANTS can not serve do not take other people's lives. SHOT
  7. Same lech
    Same lech April 12 2016 12: 42
    +7
    She talked about the fact that David went to the army on his own, “not becoming mowed,” and had a “pathologically kind character.”


    Out of kindness of soul, he strangled two women ... too many sadists and killers of this kind divorced in RUSSIA ...
    they cut, rape, burn, strangle women and children in vain ....
    I am enraged by the judicial system of RUSSIA allowing such scumbags to escape from punishment in mental hospitals.
    At us in NOVOSIBIRSK this was recognized partially insane ... I think they will prescribe sanatorium treatment to him and will release a year or two later under two wings of a businessman daddy ...
    freaks. am
    1. Trigger-Happy
      Trigger-Happy April 12 2016 13: 01
      +2
      Our judicial system works in one direction, and this will continue as long as we have a person for the state, not a state for a person !!! I myself had several cases of intersection with justices of the peace and a lot of information from friends, I can say one thing - complete incompetence and unwillingness to delve into the essence of the problem, arrogant attitude towards you and a predicted solution in advance!
      1. xorgi
        xorgi April 12 2016 13: 13
        +1
        Trigger-Happy
        Let's not juggle, Justice of the Peace does not hear cases of murder and rape
        1. nicolay338
          nicolay338 April 12 2016 13: 24
          +2
          The judicial system includes justices of the peace as well. I agree with the previous speaker 100% wink
        2. Trigger-Happy
          Trigger-Happy April 12 2016 13: 40
          +1
          I didn’t jerk, but gave my own example of communication with our judicial system. I will also say that the district court nevertheless canceled the decision of the magistrate after the appeal, but there were concrete arguments. Although my friend with the same "reinforced concrete" arguments was sent farther, tk. I fought with the state in the person of an official, and I did that - little things ...
    2. Concealer
      Concealer April 12 2016 20: 30
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I am enraged by the judicial system of RUSSIA allowing such scumbags to escape from punishment in mental hospitals.

      This is already a consequence. Better think about why the level of psychopathy in society is steadily increasing.
      Just think about exactly what conditions contribute to the massive development of psychopathy in society. And think about how it usually ends.
  8. weksha50
    weksha50 April 12 2016 12: 42
    +12
    Most likely - addicts ...

    Well, with what diagnosis will military personnel who have passed a medical examination still lie in a mental hospital? As a rule, alcoholism or drug addiction ...

    Another question is why in a hospital in a psychiatric hospital there is such order that "patients" easily kill nurses and "safely" hide ???
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental April 12 2016 16: 59
      +8
      Quote: weksha50
      Another question is why in a hospital in a psychiatric hospital there is such order that "patients" easily kill nurses and "safely" hide ???

      I worked as a surgeon in this hospital for 7 years. I can answer your question hi
      First, they are not crazy in the broadest sense of the word. Most likely, they all had a diagnosis of "adaptation disorder" - crying, suicidal tendencies, deviant behavior. The violent were never kept there.
      My opinion is how everything was - considering that one of them is a cadet of "Mozhaiki", the guys just drank for three on the eve of the Cosmonautics Day. The clear stump was not enough. By order of the head of the hospital, after 21.00 ALL departments of the hospital are locked. Moreover, psychiatry. They are ALWAYS closed during the day. Steel bars on the windows. The key is held by the ward nurse on duty. Further I think it is not worth explaining the course of events. Leaving the territory of the hospital by jumping over the fence is a trashy matter. Security only at the checkpoint. This is my vision of this story. Moreover, this is not the first such case for this hospital. hi
  9. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 April 12 2016 12: 43
    +2
    Doctors of the draft board, who gave the go-ahead to this killer - must be brought to justice!
    Nurses probably have families left ... children ...
    This mess - the military commissariat, it's time to finish!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 12 2016 12: 48
      0
      This mess - the military commissariat, it's time to finish!


      How? ...how? ... it's easy to say what to do?

      How to put barriers to psychos from our society in an army created to protect us?
      Outwardly, the man herself is innocence and how to get drunk or prick turns into a beast and an idiot ... how to weed out such people from the army ... this is a problem.
      1. demo
        demo April 12 2016 13: 09
        +3
        It is necessary to sift out not when he is already in the army, with a machine gun, with a tank, in power.
        And at the stage of its existence in society - the school.
        For these purposes, there were special teachers - retired officers of the Armed Forces who taught military affairs.
        An experienced officer who has lived side by side with thousands of guys who have joined the army for 2-3 years can easily determine who is capable of what.
        And accordingly, give a preliminary description of the future draftee.
        And further - the business of specialists.
        1. pv1005
          pv1005 April 12 2016 15: 22
          +1
          Quote: demo
          It is necessary to sift out not when he is already in the army, with a machine gun, with a tank, in power.
          And at the stage of its existence in society - the school.
          For these purposes, there were special teachers - retired officers of the Armed Forces who taught military affairs.
          An experienced officer who has lived side by side with thousands of guys who have joined the army for 2-3 years can easily determine who is capable of what.
          And accordingly, give a preliminary description of the future draftee.
          And further - the business of specialists.

          I agree with your opinion, but there is one thing. Most of those who demanded to put and punish the medical board (military registration and enlistment office) do not consider one option that the tower could be curtailed during the service. There are enough examples from life. It demolishes the tower for both conscripts and officers who have served for more than one year.
    2. Mahmut
      Mahmut April 12 2016 13: 04
      -2
      Doctors of the draft board, who gave the go-ahead to this killer - must be brought to justice!

      And if they had not given the go-ahead. Also in court - they won’t prove that it’s free.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 12 2016 12: 50
    -1
    The third is a cadet of the Military Space Academy named after Mozhaisky

    Arrived. They also criticize the Soviet education system (including the military). The selection in military schools and academies was carried out at the proper level. There were no murderers or deviations in the psyche. There were some cases in the troops, but even those concerned mainly conscripts.
  11. 76SSSR
    76SSSR April 12 2016 12: 52
    0
    At the same time, the girl noted that Ziganshin had extrasensory abilities and "saw ghosts who asked him for help." According to Mary, David Ziganshin "could heal people."

    The addict is shorter ...
  12. Mikado
    Mikado April 12 2016 12: 55
    +2
    Lord, what today is such a day, bl .. !!! The helicopter crashed, the pilots died, the nurses were killed ..
    I hope these nerds will be delayed soon. Earth rest in peace to nurses. Poor..
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 12 2016 13: 00
      +1
      Lord, what today is such a day, bl .. !!!


      I don’t say it myself in shock ... sheer nonsense rushing to the media.
    2. Fregate
      Fregate April 12 2016 13: 03
      +2
      Quote: Mikado
      Lord, what today is such a day, bl .. !!!

      April 12, astronautics day today! And the news is really today ... sad
      1. Mikado
        Mikado April 12 2016 13: 18
        0
        and there’s nothing to add. We condole with the relatives of the dead .. God grant that such days be as few as possible.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado April 12 2016 15: 12
          +2
          Everyone, caught these loonies! Thank God!

          Near Svetogorsk, on the border with Finland. It takes at least four hours to get there from Peter. That they quickly rushed!
  13. Vasya353
    Vasya353 April 12 2016 13: 01
    0
    I express my condolences to the family and friends.
  14. zurbagan63
    zurbagan63 April 12 2016 13: 01
    +1
    It's sad! ...
    Soldiers strangle nurses. Ordinary felons attack plots. The National or Ros Guard is created. The world is rolling in tartarara, slowly and confidently ...
  15. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad April 12 2016 13: 16
    +1
    One of the patients, according to media reports, was admitted to hospital in February with a diagnosis of "psychopathy."
    It is not clear why with such diagnoses people end up in a military hospital. The army of psychos should not be treated. Moreover, they should not enter the army at all. They need to be identified and written off on time. Such a place in Durkee with a special regime and security. There are a lot of questions in the selection system and the medical services of the Armed Forces themselves.
    And in general, to my regret, there is reason to believe that the medical service of the Armed Forces is "in the corral."
    1. Mikado
      Mikado April 12 2016 13: 43
      0
      Quote: x.andvlad
      They need to be identified and written off on time. Such a place in Durkee with a special regime and security.

      Apparently, this was what they were doing. Examined, perhaps filmed an acute condition with medication, would have been discharged with a certificate and written off.
      In some individuals, mental illness is detected already at the stage of service, in 18-20 years. We have identified one with a schiz.
      Although the prerequisites should have been identified, as a rule, still in the military enlistment office. But comments are superfluous.
    2. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental April 12 2016 17: 05
      +1
      In the pen, how is it? Explain to me, the sun medical service?
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  16. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz April 12 2016 13: 27
    0
    But for such people it is necessary to return the capital punishment - execution, and not to yank them at our expense on state security until the end of life.
  17. xorgi
    xorgi April 12 2016 13: 34
    +5
    In defense of honey. commissions of a military registration and enlistment office. Very often, people have mental disorders that are not even suspected of and they appear only at the time of stress or intense tension. A psychiatrist at the military enlistment office assesses: adequacy (sometimes it is possible to diagnose a manic-depressive state, autism is almost always), mental abilities (cretinism, imbecility, mental retardation), general condition (in some cases, schizophrenia can be detected) and two pieces of paper: a characteristic and the presence of drives in local mental hospital. According to these meager data, conclusions are drawn. Therefore, some people with a predisposition to mental illness calmly undergo a commission from a psychiatrist. And at the moment of tension, the brain gives a twist. Plus, it should be borne in mind that there is a large cohort of people whom they conditionally consider healthy: devout believers, collectors, various mans, with sexual deviations, etc.
    1. vic58
      vic58 April 12 2016 13: 46
      -5
      This, you, about the medical commission in ISIS?
    2. kit-kat
      kit-kat April 12 2016 13: 57
      0
      Well, if that is the case, then we are all psychopaths. For some, pathology manifests itself under stress, for others it does not hide at all, and even is demonstrated (among hunters, for example).
      1. xorgi
        xorgi April 12 2016 14: 23
        0
        According to a friend of the psychiatrist, each person is crazy inside, just some need a very strong impulse to manifest, while others need a weak one.
  18. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 12 2016 13: 37
    +1
    One of the patients, according to media reports, was admitted to the hospital in February with a diagnosis of “psychopathy”

    It should have been decommissioned immediately. I don’t think they tried to put him back in service. Nevertheless, it’s sad. Girls feel sorry for them, rest in peace.
  19. HMR333
    HMR333 April 12 2016 14: 15
    +1
    that here many people write about the honey commission, it could be normal, and then the roof went because it was not just that they put it in the hospital!
  20. Million
    Million April 12 2016 14: 45
    0
    I thought that the selection of servicemen had become tougher, but no, I was wrong!
  21. PROKHOR
    PROKHOR April 12 2016 14: 57
    +1
    Let's wait for the investigation ... It's too early to draw conclusions!
  22. Lugan
    Lugan April 12 2016 16: 49
    0
    Like such monsters only the earth wears.
  23. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 April 12 2016 17: 46
    +1
    They write that scum (or sick) was caught. I’ve been to this hospital, a lovely institution, full of paid services, and its civilians and grandparents guard it. Military facility! Where are kotimsi?
  24. sub307
    sub307 April 12 2016 17: 47
    +1
    They have already caught them ..., at the Finnish border, in the Svetogorsk region, as the news reported. They moved in military (their) uniforms .... They said that they were specially (?) Forced out there, during the operation, so to speak. There are questions:
    - How did three obvious morons get to the border zone in a short time?
    - and why did they have to "push out" there?
    Ali media beguiled what ...?
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 12 2016 22: 59
      0
      And if they themselves went there, then why? Well, they would run into the Finnish border. What next? With a fight to break into Finland?
  25. Demeter
    Demeter April 13 2016 13: 46
    0
    This is not psychopathy, it’s already the excuses began and forgery of documents retroactively in order to smear the killers from prison. Surely both otorazka drug addicts and they must be judged and put in the zone, as soon as possible.