The Russian Mi-28H crashed in Syria. Two pilots died

In Syria, the Russian helicopter Mi-28H crashed, the crash was not the result of a strike from the ground, the channel transmits LifeNews message of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

“Two crew members died. When performing search and rescue operations, the bodies of the dead pilots are evacuated and are located at Hmeimim airbase. According to the report from the crash site, there was no fire impact on the helicopter ",

the report said.

In total, “this is the second military helicopter of Russia, lost during the operation in Syria. The first was the Mi-8, shot by the militants upon landing during a search and rescue operation after the crash of the Su-24 near the border with Turkey, the publication reminds.

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[NAV-STAR]

Eternal Memory to Heroes ...

[Wiruz]

the crash was not the result of a strike from the ground

It would be better not to say

[avvg]

May the Earth be IM fluff! Everlasting memory!

[Byshido_dis]

MOSCOW, April 12. / TASS /. The Mi-28N attack helicopter of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed in Syria, it was not shot down, and two crew members were killed. This was reported on Tuesday in the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
"On April 12, 2016 at 1:29 am Moscow time, while flying in the area of ​​the city of Homs (Syrian Arab Republic), a Mi-28N helicopter of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed. Two crew members were killed," the agency said in a statement to TASS.
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"According to the report from the crash site, there was no fire impact on the helicopter," the press service added.
The military department said that during the search and rescue operations, the bodies of the deceased pilots were evacuated and are located at the Khmeimim airbase.
"At the crash site of the helicopter, an operational group of specialists is working to investigate flight accidents. The reasons for the flight accident are being investigated," the Defense Ministry said in a statement.
Mi-28N attack helicopters were used by the Russian military during the operation to liberate Palmyra. In particular, these vehicles used anti-tank guided missiles to destroy terrorist armored vehicles.
The crashed helicopter is assigned to the Budennovsk military airbase in the Stavropol Territory, a high-ranking source in the Russian defense industry told TASS.

More on TASS:
http://tass.ru/proisshestviya/3195703

[Vadim237]

And how do they know whether there was a fire impact or not.

[EvilLion]

From there, once the bodies were taken out, they were able to at least inspect the car for holes, not to mention the fact that they could have crashed not in battle.

[Cormorants]

According to information at night crashed!

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Cormorants

According to information at night crashed!

He is like a NIGHT hunter, all-weather and all-weather, was it really about night vision goggles? who knows?

[jPilot]

If at night, it explains a lot. Here in deep dusk when you are not flying very much, the piloting technique is not the same as during the day, and with night vision no matter what system is ideal, the review is still very limited. And in view of the fact that nightlights were recently adopted, you yourself do not understand much experience and skills.
In general, you need to wait for the official investigation of the commission.
These are just some HERE, they can draw conclusions from the "flight": THE COMMAND IS TO BE FUCKED IN ALL , great experts "damn"

[Voyager]

And who else is to blame, sorry? If the staff is not trained, who is to blame? If the equipment is not run-in, which for many years by the way? Who is to blame when they adopt a crude helicopter. You know, a good analogy, if the movie is bad, the demand comes from the director.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Max_Bauder

Quote: Cormorants

According to information at night crashed!

He is like a NIGHT hunter, all-weather and all-weather, was it really about night vision goggles? who knows?

There is such a possibility. In night vision goggles and the review is limited and the distance is perceived differently.

[Cormorants]

According to information at night crashed!

[Kent0001]

Something just went wrong. There will be questions to the tenars who prepared the departure. And to the quality of the fuel, too.

[rubidium]

Quote: Wiruz

It would be better not to say

it depends on how you look at it. Well, first of all, I would like to naively hope for reliable information. And secondly, malfunctions happen to everything, especially with machines that take part in hostilities for the first time. But the shooting down of a helicopter by "slippers" from outdated weapons - that's really better not to say this.

[vkl.47]

I suspect that this is a factory marriage. Already one crashed on the avidarts that year. No one made any conclusions. They signaled that the fighters had problems with novation. All this is very bad. Such irresponsibility. Coldness caused the death of people

[Scoun]

Quote: vkl.47

I suspect that this is a factory marriage. Already one crashed on the avidarts that year.

and even before the "darts" 3 helicopters crashed, but the Syrian crash is the most tragic, two people died. (((
1. Stavropol Territory on February 15, 2011 due to chips entering the engine gearbox.
2. "Caucasus 2012" Mozdok Mi-28 around 09.20 16
3. Mi-28N occurred on June 19, 2009 during flights at the Gorokhovets combined-arms training ground in the Tver Region

[Iline]

Something seems to me that in Iraq these helicopters were falling.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Scoun

Gorokhovets Combined Arms Testing Ground in the Tver Region

Actually this is the Nizhny Novgorod region.

[EvilLion]

Prior to that notorious dart, there was an 3 accident with the Mi-28, but one car was repaired.

[lis-ik]

And before that, more than three years ago right at the factory site in Lyubertsy.

[Scoun]

Quote: lis-ik

And before that, more than three years ago right at the factory site in Lyubertsy.

It was a Ka-52.

According to preliminary data, the helicopter flew from the Chkalovsky military airfield to the site in Lyubertsy. ... The Investigative Committee finds out the circumstances of the accident, after the fall of the Ka-52 a pre-investigation check has been launched.

[SOLGA]

something is wrong with this helicopter.

[mojohed2012]

There is no war without loss. Who shot down or did not shoot down the helicopter, how and under what circumstances it still turns out, but the pilots feel sorry. Eternal memory to them and the heroes of Russia should be given posthumously.

[kit-kat]

And what about "Heroes"? This is not a reward to throw away. And without that, recently, this title has been awarded to people for actions that are far from heroism. An exception is the award of the officer who caused the fire on himself.

[zadorin1974]

I agree on the award account. In place of the awards, children should be awarded a decent pension so that they can grow and stand on their feet, and not live living from penny to penny. This will be a worthy tribute to the military who died in the line of duty.
In service all day, Russia is on 24-no sound about a helicopter.

[kit-kat]

That's right. In Soviet times, there was a pension for the loss of a breadwinner, or something like that. Well, assign it or the like until the children reach adulthood. Well, let it be increased, some.

[zadorin1974]

The first message was fluent about a helicopter (16-35 Perm) on RTR 24.

[co-creator]

Quote: zadorin1974

In service all day, Russia is on 24-no sound about a helicopter.

All the same, there is a warrior, and today is Cosmonautics Day. It is not worth turning this day into mourning.

No one will forget the guys, and no one will hide their death.

[Max_Bauder]

Well, how much can you ?! when will they make a normal catapult on turntables ?! or a spring in case of a hard landing ?! :(
Condolences to the family! Unfortunately, if the malfunction could fall in peacetime

[Michael67]

Condolences to families. Eternal memory to pilots.
Shaitans and world imperialism will answer for everything. We have lists.

[EvilLion]

As everything is just your spring, do it. There are cushioning chairs there, it could only be that a tree suddenly grew at the rate, or something else happened, so that the crew had no opportunity to react, much less tell something to the base.

[vglazunov]

Eternal memory to heroes!
It is necessary to investigate the cause of the accident, perhaps this is not an accident or sabotage, the impacts can have a different nature.

[Hon]

The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down

[RUSS]

Quote: Hon

The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down

There is no evidence that helicopter fire was opened.

[St Petrov]

June 19 of that year was an MI-28 accident in the Russian Federation.

They said in the Moscow Region that the reason was not shelling.

[Hon]

Quote: RUSS

There is no evidence that helicopter fire was opened.

at the beginning of the article it is written that the helicopter crashed as a result of a strike from the ground

[Pacifist]

Read attentively.

the crash was not the result of a strike from the ground, passes the channel

[Makcaga]

On the fence is also written! :( It’s time to share all the official news on 2, and even on 3!

[vanavatny]

they came running to jump on the bones, let people grieve, and the relevant services to figure it out, go to the censor

[vanavatny]

oh one gray self-cleaning

[avva2012]

Quote: CRASH.Do you believe the official versions? Yes, if he was knocked down from a matyga, no one will ever say anything about it.

Quote: Makcaga On the fence is also written! :( It’s time to share all the official news on 2, and even on 3!

How much happiness then! Do not choke ....... ki

[Makcaga]

Is everything all right with your head? What is the count? People are dead!

[Koshak]

Quote: Hon

Quote: RUSS

There is no evidence that helicopter fire was opened.

at the beginning of the article it is written that the helicopter crashed as a result of a strike from the ground

Do not distort, Svidomo. Here you are not "Censor" - will not give you a ride.

[Trigger-Happy]

Quote: Hon

The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down

where is the information from?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Hon

The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down

They say that no helicopter fire was fired.

[Vadim237]

And while two pilots died - it’s strange somehow.

[mitrich]

So they walk mostly near the ground, on a shaver. Maybe because of this they did not have time to react ((

[vovanpain]

Quote: Hon

The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down

Than a slingshot? Read carefully:

According to the report from the crash site, there was no fire impact on the helicopter ”,

The kingdom of heaven and eternal memory for the children.

[Gray-haired]

It’s a pity that the queue passed by your ass on the couch!

[weksha50]

Quote: vglazunov

We need to investigate the cause of the accident,

All accidents, and even the prerequisites for them, in aviation are always (!!!) thoroughly investigated ... It was, is and will be, otherwise it is very difficult to ensure flight safety ...

[elai]

well .. there was no effect apparently gathered something crooked again

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: elai

well .. there was no effect apparently gathered something crooked again

Last year, the Mi-28N fell in Russia during exercises.

[Trigger-Happy]

it was not the first flight of the car, so it is unlikely. Rather, a failure of some of the systems.

[Vadim237]

And what could it have been refused that both pilots died.

[your1970]

but don’t believe it - when falling and hitting the ground, even from low altitudes, the crews of aircraft usually die, with helicopters a little differently, if the height and skills allow autorotation happens and saves, but it happens and not .. And ANY piece of iron can render, alas it happens and even without fire from the earth ...

[Fregate]

Quote: Vadim237

And what could it have been refused that both pilots died.

Probably no more idiotic question can be asked.

[Vadim237]

This helicopter has a rescue system - that's what I am for.

[Fregate]

Quote: Vadim237

This helicopter has a rescue system - that's what I am for.

What are the rescue systems? Energy absorbing chassis and seats? Yes, even if the whole cabin can be filled with airbags, it will not save from a collision with the ground at high speed.

[Aleksey11]

well .. there was no effect apparently gathered something crooked again

I am amazed at those who plus this throw on the fan blades.

[pavelty]

But what is so sorry for men. Rest in peace

[d1m1drol]

The kingdom to them is heaven. Their sky loved and took away ...

[Kibalchish]

Everlasting memory!



But Ka-52, unlike Mi-28, seems to have a catapult, even if I do not confuse anything.

[vvvjak]

there is a catapult with shooting propeller blades at the Ka-52

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Kibalchish

But Ka-52, unlike Mi-28, seems to have a catapult, even if I do not confuse anything.

There is. And the number in 99 Ka-52 in service with the Russian Defense Ministry allowed using only them in Syria to increase survival in the event of an accident.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Kibalchish

But Ka-52, unlike Mi-28, seems to have a catapult, even if I do not confuse anything.

What’s better is to be taken, I have doubts about the Mi-28 that it’s good, it hurts too often

[Garris199]

The helicopter is unfinished. Taking it into service is a gamble or lobby. Or both.

[Manul]

Quote: Kibalchish

But Ka-52, unlike Mi-28, seems to have a catapult, even if I do not confuse anything.

1. The catapult is also not a panacea. The MI-28, as you know, has energy-absorbing chassis and seats to reduce damage from falling from low altitudes. Unfortunately, the height was apparently greater.
2. Maybe they shot down. But on the other hand, some sources say that a commission works at the crash site, which means the territory is safe, which corresponds to the official version.
3.Now there will be attacks on the Milevites in the same volume (and almost from the same people), in which this helicopter was praised yesterday. And there will be comparisons from some personalities that the "partners" fall less. So "partners" do not go into battle. Do not forget what tight scrapes our turntables get into there. Real assault helicopters. Unfortunately, this is fighting. So let's wait for the conclusions of the commission.
Eternal memory to pilots.

[your1970]

From the wiki (I didn’t find a quick one better, but I think they don’t lie)

In the event of an emergency or catastrophic structural failure at a height of more than 100 m, the doors of both cabs are first shot, then the force-tightening belts are cut with special cutters, special “gangways” are inflated — balloons that prevent the crew from hitting the landing gear or turned gun, and the crew leaves car with parachutes.

In the same situation, but at an altitude of less than 100 m, a system of forced belt tightening is activated, which reliably fixes the crew in the Pamir-K energy-absorbing seats developed by KB Zvezda. First, the main landing gear, which, being deformed, absorb it, extinguishes the impact energy. Next, the seats come into operation, which are able to pay off the vertical overload of the 50-60 g to 15-17 g, ensuring the safety of the pilot and the navigator-operator

[max702]

The question is does it all work on real technique? Alas, the declarations of the designers very often diverge from reality .. But it’s necessary to fight ... So, shortcomings and shortcomings are scored for many shortcomings ..

[ochakow703]

And if on your side he fell over from a height of 100 meters?

[d1m1drol]

I'm not a little shaver.

[d1m1drol]

Guys for what? my flag was drawn in a British comment, I just made a correction. Do you beat right away . Or lovers of her majesty have gathered here.

[aksakal]

Quote: d1m1drol

Guys for what?

- but nothing! And sho would not seem to be honey!

[Manul]

Quote: d1m1drol

Guys for what? my flag was drawn in a British comment, I just made a correction. And you beat right away. Or lovers of her majesty have gathered here.

Vladimir, with your experience, an amazing ignorance of a possible leapfrog with flags in your profile. Moreover, pay attention to this in such news .. It is not surprising that some considered, to put it mildly, a flood and minus. There could be several dozen minuses.

[Trigger-Happy]

Any equipment sooner or later breaks down and there’s no getting around it !!! Sorry for the pilots ...

[Lex69Rus]

Sooner or later? no, well, I understand if they would have thrown several dozen helicopters into Syria and they would have ironed the militants for 6 months already. And then a month did not pass when they decided to transfer the latest super duper mi-28 and ka-52, and then in the amount of 4 pieces each and already 1 fell. It is not normal. Mi-24/35, by the way, is already half a year there and not one has fallen.

[Briz]

The fact of the matter is that early ... too early. Naturally, that accident also has an effect, under the cameras on air darts, the impression of dampness is deepening ... we are waiting for the conclusions of the commission.

[Trigger-Happy]

I read here an article about the fact that MI-28 is stillborn and flies, having an unresolved problem with the main gearbox. I take my words about "sooner or later" back. It seems clear why there are so many accidents with this car, the obvious lobbying of the Mil KB and betrayal !!!

[asadov]

wait for the investigation and find out the cause of the crash. I'm sure the men did everything they could. Land they rest in peace.

[alex-cn]

Sorry for the pilots ... Husim helicopter. Now we need to urgently understand the reasons in order to continue to prevent this.

[Alexander Romanov]

Shot down most likely.

[SibRUS]

Night, low altitude ... More likely that power lines.

[Vadim237]

Then the pilots are completely blind in your opinion - having a thermal imager and night vision devices of the latest generation.

[igor67]

Hi Sanya, I already posted information from military materials today about another downed Syrian plane,

[V.ic]

Guys, of course, sorry, but SHOW ME A TECHNIQUE THAT DOESN'T BREAK! / Even due to the impact of the so-called. "human factor".

[Masya masya]

Sorry for the guys, rest in peace, condolences to relatives ...

[Engineer engineer]

Quote: pavlentiy

What is it

War, brothers, war ...

[Xroft]

If it turns out that the problem is again in the technical condition of the Mi-28, then it will prove once again that the raw Min.Oborone helicopter (which has been done for over 30 years) has crammed MI by MI ... Let me remind you that the Mi-28 lost a tender in India due to frequent surging of the engine after rocket launch. Also, for technical reasons, a car crashed at the Ryazan Air Show (you don’t need to say how to prepare equipment for such events) its exploitation was even completely stopped ... but the Mishniki lobby, as always, was at its best.
As a result, the loss of equipment in combat conditions due to breakdowns (I repeat if this is true) 3 accident is a regularity, not counting those that crashed / made a hard landing at the preparatory stages.
For comparison, the Ka-52 has 2 accidents, one at the test site (not combatant equipment) and the second at the training flight in Torzhok by mistake of pilots.

[max702]

By and large, Milevtsev should be asked for the ruined KA-50 for the sake of the stillborn MI-28 .. Alas, but as it was correctly noticed, 30 years were not enough for this design bureau to bring to mind the essence of an ancient machine rooted in Mi-24-Mi-8. .. I don’t feel like jumping on bones, but all the same, criminal decisions must be investigated and brought to justice!

[absurdity]

Maks702, it would be necessary to ask you where so much intelligence is then? What would you do alone in the KA-50 cockpit on the battlefield? would you fly back and forth? Do you know the reasons for abandoning the Ka-50? Have you talked with Mi-28 pilots? No. so what the hell is there to climb into experts and give advice on executions.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Absurdidat

Have you talked with Mi-28 pilots? No. so what the hell is there to climb into experts and give advice on executions.

http://lifenews.ru/news/196422

[Warrior2015]

Representing the level of support for the airborne forces in Syria, I can say that it is unlikely that the pilots were sent to battle on a faulty machine. Most likely the men were shot down. Land they rest in peace and Hero of Russia both would need!

[Vadim237]

Recently, there was news that the militants received 85 anti-aircraft missiles with a launch range of 20 kilometers.

[rotmistr60]

There is only sorrow. A trial for the reasons for the crash must be left to specialists and not to meddle with their versions. We will know the real reasons soon.

[RussianRoulette]

It doesn’t matter for what reason the car crashed, because of a technical malfunction, because of an attack from the ground, because of an error during complex maneuvering during a combat mission or some other ... even if the Ministry of Defense doesn’t agree
The guys died in a foreign land, protecting the world from a cancer tumor, which only in a first approximation threatens individual regions. They died fighting for the truthwhich so aggressively any enemy world jackal turns into a broken penny today !!!
Everlasting memory!!!

[Verdun]

I would like more information. No speculation. And the guys feel sorry for anyone.

[Yun Klob]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Shot down most likely.

No, just such a helicopter. The article said.

[newcomer]

sorry for our pilots. eternal memory to the soldiers of the sky.

[anarchist]

Perhaps with Aleppo, shot, MANPADS ???

[vch62388]

The cause of the crash of the Mi-28Н helicopter in Syria could be unfavorable flight conditions, the military-industrial complex told Interfax on Tuesday.

“The flight was carried out over low-orientation terrain in conditions of almost complete darkness. Pilots piloted a combat vehicle with night vision goggles. It is possible that there could be some kind of obstacle that the helicopter collided with, ”the agency’s interlocutor said.

However, he noted that the commission is now considering different versions
accident.

http://warfiles.ru/show-114847-stolknovenie-nazvali-vozmozhnoy-prichinoy-krushen
iya-vertoleta-mi-28n-v-sirii.html

“The final conclusions can be drawn after a thorough study of the materials of the objective control means,” the source emphasized.

[Vadim237]

This is an all-weather helicopter with five surveillance and tracking channels.

[avva2012]

Quote: vch62388 The cause of the crash of the Mi-28Н helicopter in Syria could be unfavorable flight conditions, the military-industrial complex told Interfax on Tuesday.

If, I’m not mistaken, are there any wild dust storms in Syria now? Maybe this is the reason? This is not a Kalashnikov assault rifle, in special. You can’t put a dust chamber in it, and the instrument is more complex.
Eternal memory to the pilots!

[weksha50]

Quote: Vadim237

This is an all-weather helicopter with five surveillance and tracking channels.

Hmm ... Nobody has ever canceled the human factor ...

Who knows what could happen, and even at night, that the pilots did not even have time to react ???

Let the commission sort it out, but we have nothing to come up with ... We will wait - see and hear ... If the RF Ministry of Defense allows ...

[Lex69Rus]

Mi-28 from the very beginning was created as an all-weather and round-the-clock attack helicopter. No, well, unless of course there was a sandstorm that they’re lying. And so all the excuses, crap in one word.

[doework]

Eternal memory to the officers!
It’s a pity if the equipment failed. This is not the first state of emergency with the Mi-28N ...

[tchoni]

Unfortunately, flight accidents do happen. And the same thing in war. And given the busy schedule of our air base .......

[Mikado]

Eternal memory .. It's a pity somehow ..

[raid14]

A version of piloting error at night in unfamiliar terrain is considered (collision with an obstacle, for example, a mountain slope or a power transmission line, is possible).

[Executer]

Would change the avatar, my friend ...
And it’s disgusting to look at this face.

[Aaron Zawi]

Eternal memory to the soldiers who have fulfilled their duty.

[Pvi1206]

The Mi-28N helicopter is a new machine.
New technology in the armed forces has always taken root not simply.
Sorry, so sorry ...

[salad]

..............................

[Jatviag]

The Mi-28 at one time had problems with gearboxes. Perhaps a disaster is connected with this?

[Vadim237]

You think that during the flight the main gearbox got jammed.

[Aleksander]

Woe, what woe .....

[nazar_0753]

I would like administrators on such articles to close the "article rating"

[Patriot 771]

To figure it out - we'll figure it out. Only again, the best leave prematurely. Eternal memory to guys !!! In war as in war.

[dsm100]

Sorry, sorry and again sorry for the pilots and equipment.

[belroni]

Quote: Vadim237

And what could it have been refused that both pilots died.

You won’t believe it, but there are a lot of things there. And when the aircraft crashes, people usually die, and that’s all.

[Vadim237]

There generally is an emergency rescue system - most likely the pilots tried to save the car, but it did not work out.

[Ugrumiy]

Why not equip all helicopters with catapults, after all, there is a positive experience with Kamov's turntables! If there were ejection seats, you see, both pilots would have remained alive. Again, they save on iron, losing people's lives. In general, it was necessary to give Sharks to the Alligators, in my opinion an excellent combination would have turned out, especially since the Shark had already been run in battle.

[weksha50]

Quote: Ugrumiy

Why don’t they equip all helicopters with catapults, because there is positive experience with Kamov turntables!

A great many such comments are about helicopter ejection systems ...

However, they do not think about how high the helicopters operate in battle ...
Or - when delivering some reconnaissance group at night to a certain square, in an unknown area ...

Here no catapult will save ...

[hustler9090]

The catapult saves when bailing from the ground. The pilot himself doesn’t care when. Purely psychologically. So turntables still have autorotation.

[Ugrumiy]

Helicopter catapults, installed on both "Sharks" and "Alligators", operate from zero height and provide pilots rescue even when triggered on the ground! Plus the shooting of the blades, which reduces the severity of the accident and the possibility of injury to pilots.

[alfa19638]

Everlasting memory !!!

[RuslanNN]

A couple of days ago in VO there was an article stating that the barmaley had MANPADS in the amount of 85 pieces. It looks like they started using them. God bless our guys.

[Dmitry 2246]

Eternal memory to the fallen guys.
I feel sorry for the families of the pilots.

[avg-mgn]

"The final conclusions can be drawn after a thorough study of the materials of objective control."

Here is another loss ... Unfortunately, this is a war, a round-the-clock war in unusual conditions for our pilots. The guys do not return, but it is necessary to understand. Let's hope this is the last victim. Eternal memory for the children!

[vladimirw]

Eternal memory to heroes!

[Lincoln]

After the delivery of the c300 to Iran, the number of anti-aircraft missiles from the Barmaleevs will increase dramatically, as will the number of such "equipment failures" ...

[vovanpain]

Quote: Linkoln

After the delivery of the c300 to Iran, the number of anti-aircraft missiles from the Barmaleevs will increase dramatically, as will the number of such "equipment failures" ...

Absolutely or what, what S-300? What Iran? If only to throw shit on a fan? Like smooth brains, and one gyrus in the back.

[Lex69Rus]

Yes, because min. defense does not know what he wants! there is a saying for 2 hares chasing a single you will not catch! What Mi-28 is a new helicopter? since the 80s they have been doing it, it has been produced since 2005, for more than 10 years and they still won’t bring it to mind! Why do we need simultaneously 3 attack (mi-25/35, mi-28n and ka-52) helicopters? Mi-35 is enough to strike with nur and old peters, and neither mi-28 nor ka-52 were brought to mind. And if the ka-52 doesn’t seem to have purely technical problems, they still have a barrage for it. With the Mi-28 it’s even worse, the car is still raw both technically and in armament. Radar crossbow incomprehensibly put will not put will put or not. The sighting system is unstable. Night missions are not yet visible. And not in vain with the new helicopters in Syria, they pulled to the last one apparently unreliable! Instead of finally selecting 1 main attack helicopter and bringing it to mind and its armament, and only after starting the mass purchase we already have hundreds of ka-52s and mi-28s in service. At the same time, the Ka-52 in Syria flies with noras !!! with all that they wrote that the ka-52 is more perfect than the mi-28 in electronics radar, the crossbow is full stuffing and shoots with nuras. Ptur is using Mi-28, which is somehow strange and sometimes smears periodically on video. Despite the fact that the United States has 1 main attack helicopter an-64 apache, the marines have cobras, but this is done because of the savings, they are cheaper than the banal apaches and daptized for the infantry muzzle. And all because there is a kommushka komts, and in the production of ka-52 and mi-28, officials need to be fed. Madhouse!

[Xroft]

I completely agree, the purpose of the Mi-28 is absolutely not clear, and it can never be compared with the survivability of the Mi-35. And the maneuvering of the Ka-52 (which is very important in applications in the mountains or in the foreground where the front-line helicopter should be) is also far , add the ability to bail out pilots.
Again, in the framework of Kamovtsev’s support (since we don’t want to ruin the factory) it’s quite logical to take products from them, and to put emphasis on the unkillable for 35.
Why do we need a raw already obsolete 28 is not clear .... only the fantastic influence of the lobby of the scouts, who already raise a lot of money on mi-8 and modifications around the world.

[Lex69Rus]

I can not agree with you. Personally, I prefer the Mi-28, but this is purely subjective. I also disagree about security and survivability. Of all the trinity, the Mi-28 has the best armor, then the Ka-52 and Mi-35 are actually updated Mi-24. On the question of the dampness of the Mi-28, the question is not only to the manufacturer, but rather to our defense mines, why the machine does not need to be adjusted to the mind and whether they really need it, maybe it will work. By the way, Iraq has been operating the Mi-28 for quite some time and they had no losses and most likely the Mi-28 was delivered to them with better quality. It’s like with tanks abroad Algeria with a gun and air conditioning, but the T-72b3 will do.

[EvilLion]

When Mi-28Н was launched into a series in Arseniev, the factory was okay, even though there were no bare walls.

[dchegrinec]

Sad We will wait for the cause of the disaster.

[Anchonsha]

Bad news. The guys are sorry, the young are still. THE KINGDOM OF YOU A HEAVENLY AND ETERNAL MEMORY ....

[AlexTires]

Most likely, the reason may be similar to the cause of the accident in Dubrovichi, namely, the failure of the hydraulic system ... IMHO, the helicopter was swallowed up by the MO "raw", and the technicians will be blamed for sending it on the flight ... Eternal memory to the guys!

[sania275]

The death of soldiers is a tragedy for loved ones and grief for the Russians. But with what joy our "brothers" jump for joy from the independent, and there are plenty of them inside the country. They forgot that God is not Mikitka and that he sees who will offend whom, everyone will be reckoned.

[bumbarash]

The main thing is a pity for people. But also a minus on the reputation of the car. An incident can adversely affect potential customers. When the Superjet crashed somewhere uphill, it was long remembered. But you need to understand when else
Will there be an opportunity to test the car in combat conditions? A war machine without war, like a hunting dog without hunting.

[Alpha]

“Considering the various rescue systems for the crew, the Milians at first refused to eject the rotor blades, but the Mi-28N nevertheless installed fire bolts for attaching the blades. The rescue system works according to one of two algorithms, which have been developed and comprehensively tested at the moment:

In the event of an emergency or catastrophic destruction of the structure at an altitude of more than 100 m, the propeller blades, wing consoles and doors of both cabins are first fired off, then forced pull belts are cut with special cutters, special "ladders" are inflated - ballonets that prevent the crew from touching the landing gear or rotated cannon, and the crew leaves the car with parachutes.

In the same situation, but at an altitude of less than 100 m, a system of forced belt tightening is triggered, reliably fixing the crew in the Pamir-K energy-absorbing seats developed by the Zvezda Design Bureau. First, the impact energy is absorbed by the main landing gear, which, deforming, absorb it. Next, seats come into operation, which are able to extinguish the vertical overload of 50-60 g to 15-17 g, providing injury safety to the pilot and the navigator-operator. "

[AlexTires]

Quote: Alpharu

First, the main landing gear, which, when deformed, absorb it

this is provided that the helicopter falls on the chassis

[BISMARCK94]

We need to further revive technical education and minimize carelessness. Eternal memory to the soldiers.

[Belarus]

Condolences to the families and friends of the deceased pilots.


If a helicopter had been shot down, as some here say, then The Internet would have long ago posted footage of at least the shelling of a helicopter and there would have been, at a minimum, great difficulties in evacuating the bodies of the dead.

Most likely, they won’t tell us the cause of the technical breakdown that led to the death of the pilots. In fact, it’s not necessary,just let them make sure that the death of the pilots was not in vain.

[Buffet]

Well, that’s it...right now Svidomo and liberals will be screaming like crazy at every step that they say they shot down/killed again and don’t care that people died. Well, now at the manufacturing plant and technicians they have to turn the bellows inside...

[sub307]

The cause of the incident has not yet been clarified..., much less announced. Where does the thought come from: “Well, now at the manufacturing plant and technicians they have to turn the bellows inside out...”. Is a piloting error automatically excluded? Let's wait for the results of the investigation... and then - "with the fur inside..." whoever is supposed to.

[Verdun]

On Rambler, former aviation commander Pavlov says that the reason for the fall of the MI-28 was the poor operational testing of the vehicles. They say that the Mi-24 had failures in the first two years, and then not a single one in ten years. I just need to fly more. As for flying, I don’t argue. But it's an interesting opinion. The Mi-28N first flew in 1996. Adopted into service in 2013. It's 2016...

[dr. sem]

[quote=RUSS][quote=Hon]The reason is simple, the helicopter was shot down[/quote]
There is no confirmation that fire was opened on the helicopter.[/quote
And for a long time there was no confirmation of the actions of the Defense Ministry forces in Crimea, there was no talk of a terrorist attack over Egypt, and you never know what there was no confirmation of...

[nrex]

Very sad news. Sorry guys. But as they say, if you're meant to burn, you won't drown. Service in the Armed Forces is always associated with risk. Everlasting memory !!!

[Chills]

We will not all return from the flight...
Air worker wars ...

[ochakow703]

This is what happens most often. As long as all the nuts are tightened and the operation is at its peak, then there will be no equipment failures. And as the heat subsides, life becomes a little easier, and so it begins - either the nut is unscrewed, or they forgot how to pilot. To all the above versions I will add the usual Russian relaxation. I feel sorry for the guys. The Kingdom of heaven.

[Vadim237]

If this is so, the technicians will completely clean it up.

[sergeyzzz]

They flew low, accessible to the fire of the bandits' carts.

[mitrich]

The car is relatively “new”, it hasn’t flown much. I’ve been flying crocodiles in Syria, in larger numbers, for half a year now, and, pah-pah-pah, no losses. And this one fell “quickly”. But sometimes they fall during training exercises. And if he had fallen in the Russian Federation, there would not have been such a reaction. And now the dill and cannibals will howl with delight, and the West will quietly rejoice, they will invent all sorts of stupid tales.
And the fact that the guys could not escape, maybe they walked low, as usual during an attack in Syria. We must wait for the commission's findings.
Blessed memory and rest in peace to the guys.....

[valent45]

Let's wait for the official investigation. Sorry guys. Everlasting memory.

[Zomanus]

If not from the ground, then it sucks.
Then you have to dig two or three times more carefully, looking for the cause.
Because we still have many such helicopters.
And non-combat losses are the most offensive.

[Sergei64]

Yes, it’s a pity for the pilots, how many more bearded ones they could calm down, Eternal GLORY to them.
And the fall will be dealt with without us, how and why, when deciphering the CY.

[koshmarik]

Human activity cannot be 100% error-free, technology cannot be 100% reliable. Unfortunately, this kind of loss is inevitable. 27000 people killed on the country's roads this year are sad confirmation of this. And of course it’s a pity guys.

[BABA SHURA]

Quote: avvg

May the Earth be IM fluff! Everlasting memory!

Let the earth be their heaven!

[Leto]

Flying at night with only thermal imagers is dangerous, especially in the mountainous terrain of which Syria abounds. Where is the standard mm-range radar, the ball of which has been displayed on exhibition samples for so long? It may be a revelation for someone, but the Mi-28N is night-class only nominally, this disaster only confirms this...

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Leto

What is a standard mm-range radar, the ball of which has been displayed on exhibition samples for so long?

I agree with you. It has always infuriated me that in our Russian army all the technical innovations are constantly hanging out either at exhibitions, remember at least the Arena complex (for 20 years it was carried everywhere around the world, but was never installed on tanks, the boys are dying further from the bearded ones with an RPG-7 on the shoulder), or are sold abroad. And our troops are undergoing minimal modernization: BTR-82A, T-72B3 (was it really so difficult to supply the T-90?) I’m already silent about the Mig-35, which has been talked about since 2007, and what’s the point...

[EvilLion]

The competent authorities will figure out what happened, but the non-brothers will obviously have holiday races until the end of the week.

[S_Baykala]

Quote: nazar_0753

I would like administrators on such articles to close the "article rating"

Yes, in such news (in my opinion) there should not be a rating. We put, say, a + because the author posted the article promptly, without speculation, and covered the case - as a result, from the outside, we give a “plus” for the fact that our guys died. “Minus” as a sign of grief for the dead - on the other hand, we show disrespect for the author. I personally have not “rated” similar articles for a long time, so as not to fall into a moral fork.
Dear moderators, please think about this side.
And eternal memory to our guys.

[Sergei64]

The expert named three versions of the crash of the “Night Hunter” in Syria

http://lifenews.ru/news/196422

[Turkestan]

Any NEW aviation equipment. At the initial stage of flight, army testing and operation in units, it tends to fall. Alas, this is the fate of ANY new aircraft. The AN-12 aircraft has had 2500 modifications since the beginning of its test flight. On any airplane or helicopter during operation, technical problems will appear that will be solved by the Russian Air Force IAS. So, guys, we won’t criticize the Mi-28. Let the Air Force specialists figure out what happened.

[tolmachiev51]

This is technology and it does not guarantee 100% flight safety, and Syria is not involved. SU25 in Chernigovka 15 days ago, the pilot remained alive there. May the memory of those who died and rest in peace to them!!!

[Bort radist]

Bright memory! It’s bad if the technology is to blame. This is war, not a testing ground. They are not testers. They must beat the enemy; they cannot skimp on trials.

[kmv.km]

May you rest in peace, Guys. This is war...

[Warrior2015]

Now it’s difficult to talk about the reasons, no matter what they are... I’m sure they’ll figure it out. It’s a pity for the guys, they honestly fulfilled their duty.

[Garris199]

Quote: RussianRoulette

They died fighting for the truth

If so. Or maybe they were just returning to base?

Quote: RussianRoulette

It doesn't matter why the car crashed

It’s also important to stop feeding military families with fond memories. Since the time of World War II, we have eaten our fill for several generations.
For the adoption of such vehicles into service, all those involved should be imprisoned for sabotage.

[komar1]

The Mi-28N Night Hunter helicopter has a special pilot protection system and can “see” the enemy at a distance of 35 kilometers even in the dark. [media=http://topwar.ru/index.php?newsid=973]

I'm dying and I can't laugh

[komar1]

why are you downvoting?
glory to Russia, glory to Putin, glory to the VKS, glory

well now try minus

[Demeter]

Bad stuff. The second crashed Mi-28. After the accident of the first, problems were discovered in the tail boom, which it was decided to modify. What is it this time?