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The Russian Mi-28H crashed in Syria. Two pilots died

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In Syria, the Russian helicopter Mi-28H crashed, the crash was not the result of a strike from the ground, the channel transmits LifeNews message of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.


The Russian Mi-28H crashed in Syria. Two pilots died


“Two crew members died. When performing search and rescue operations, the bodies of the dead pilots are evacuated and are located at Hmeimim airbase. According to the report from the crash site, there was no fire impact on the helicopter ",
the report said.

In total, “this is the second military helicopter of Russia, lost during the operation in Syria. The first was the Mi-8, shot by the militants upon landing during a search and rescue operation after the crash of the Su-24 near the border with Turkey, the publication reminds.
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  1. NAV-STAR
    NAV-STAR April 12 2016 11: 28
    +67
    Eternal Memory to Heroes ...
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz April 12 2016 11: 35
      +2
      the crash was not the result of a strike from the ground

      It would be better not to say
      1. avvg
        avvg April 12 2016 11: 42
        +15
        May the Earth be IM fluff! Everlasting memory!
        1. Byshido_dis
          Byshido_dis April 12 2016 11: 51
          +2
          MOSCOW, April 12. / TASS /. The Mi-28N attack helicopter of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed in Syria, it was not shot down, and two crew members were killed. This was reported on Tuesday in the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
          "On April 12, 2016 at 1:29 am Moscow time, while flying in the area of ​​the city of Homs (Syrian Arab Republic), a Mi-28N helicopter of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed. Two crew members were killed," the agency said in a statement to TASS.
          Gallery 16 photos

          "According to the report from the crash site, there was no fire impact on the helicopter," the press service added.
          The military department said that during the search and rescue operations, the bodies of the deceased pilots were evacuated and are located at the Khmeimim airbase.
          "At the crash site of the helicopter, an operational group of specialists is working to investigate flight accidents. The reasons for the flight accident are being investigated," the Defense Ministry said in a statement.
          Mi-28N attack helicopters were used by the Russian military during the operation to liberate Palmyra. In particular, these vehicles used anti-tank guided missiles to destroy terrorist armored vehicles.
          The crashed helicopter is assigned to the Budennovsk military airbase in the Stavropol Territory, a high-ranking source in the Russian defense industry told TASS.


          More on TASS:
          http://tass.ru/proisshestviya/3195703
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 12 2016 13: 17
            -8
            And how do they know whether there was a fire impact or not.
            1. EvilLion
              EvilLion April 12 2016 14: 46
              +5
              From there, once the bodies were taken out, they were able to at least inspect the car for holes, not to mention the fact that they could have crashed not in battle.
      2. Cormorants
        Cormorants April 12 2016 11: 42
        +1
        According to information at night crashed!
        1. Max_Bauder
          Max_Bauder April 12 2016 11: 52
          +12
          Quote: Cormorants
          According to information at night crashed!


          He is like a NIGHT hunter, all-weather and all-weather, was it really about night vision goggles? who knows?
          1. jPilot
            jPilot April 12 2016 14: 02
            +9
            If at night, it explains a lot. Here in deep dusk when you are not flying very much, the piloting technique is not the same as during the day, and with night vision no matter what system is ideal, the review is still very limited. And in view of the fact that nightlights were recently adopted, you yourself do not understand much experience and skills.
            In general, you need to wait for the official investigation of the commission.
            These are just some HERE, they can draw conclusions from the "flight": THE COMMAND IS TO BE FUCKED IN ALL request, great experts "damn"
            1. Voyager
              Voyager April 12 2016 16: 29
              0
              And who else is to blame, sorry? If the staff is not trained, who is to blame? If the equipment is not run-in, which for many years by the way? Who is to blame when they adopt a crude helicopter. You know, a good analogy, if the movie is bad, the demand comes from the director.
          2. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot April 12 2016 23: 12
            0
            Quote: Max_Bauder
            Quote: Cormorants
            According to information at night crashed!


            He is like a NIGHT hunter, all-weather and all-weather, was it really about night vision goggles? who knows?



            There is such a possibility. In night vision goggles and the review is limited and the distance is perceived differently.
      3. Cormorants
        Cormorants April 12 2016 11: 42
        +1
        According to information at night crashed!
      4. Kent0001
        Kent0001 April 12 2016 12: 24
        +3
        Something just went wrong. There will be questions to the tenars who prepared the departure. And to the quality of the fuel, too.
      5. rubidiy
        rubidiy April 12 2016 16: 05
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        It would be better not to say

        it depends on how you look at it. Well, first of all, I would like to naively hope for reliable information. And secondly, malfunctions happen to everything, especially with machines that take part in hostilities for the first time. But the shooting down of a helicopter by "slippers" from outdated weapons - that's really better not to say this.
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 April 12 2016 11: 45
      0
      I suspect that this is a factory marriage. Already one crashed on the avidarts that year. No one made any conclusions. They signaled that the fighters had problems with novation. All this is very bad. Such irresponsibility. Coldness caused the death of people
      1. Scoun
        Scoun April 12 2016 11: 59
        +7
        Quote: vkl.47
        I suspect that this is a factory marriage. Already one crashed on the avidarts that year.

        and even before the "darts" 3 helicopters crashed, but the Syrian crash is the most tragic, two people died. (((
        1. Stavropol Territory on February 15, 2011 due to chips entering the engine gearbox.
        2. "Caucasus 2012" Mozdok Mi-28 around 09.20 16
        3. Mi-28N occurred on June 19, 2009 during flights at the Gorokhovets combined-arms training ground in the Tver Region
        1. Iline
          Iline April 12 2016 12: 04
          +1
          Something seems to me that in Iraq these helicopters were falling.
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets April 12 2016 14: 38
          +1
          Quote: Scoun
          Gorokhovets Combined Arms Testing Ground in the Tver Region

          Actually this is the Nizhny Novgorod region.
        3. EvilLion
          EvilLion April 12 2016 14: 47
          0
          Prior to that notorious dart, there was an 3 accident with the Mi-28, but one car was repaired.
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      3. lis-ik
        lis-ik April 12 2016 12: 08
        +1
        And before that, more than three years ago right at the factory site in Lyubertsy.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun April 12 2016 12: 33
          +1
          Quote: lis-ik
          And before that, more than three years ago right at the factory site in Lyubertsy.

          It was a Ka-52.

          According to preliminary data, the helicopter flew from the Chkalovsky military airfield to the site in Lyubertsy. ... The Investigative Committee finds out the circumstances of the accident, after the fall of the Ka-52 a pre-investigation check has been launched.
      4. SOLGA
        SOLGA April 12 2016 12: 12
        +1
        something is wrong with this helicopter.
    3. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 April 12 2016 11: 46
      +14
      There is no war without loss. Who shot down or did not shoot down the helicopter, how and under what circumstances it still turns out, but the pilots feel sorry. Eternal memory to them and the heroes of Russia should be given posthumously.
      1. kit-kat
        kit-kat April 12 2016 12: 21
        +21
        And what about "Heroes"? This is not a reward to throw away. And without that, recently, this title has been awarded to people for actions that are far from heroism. An exception is the award of the officer who caused the fire on himself.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 April 12 2016 13: 25
          +5
          I agree on the award account. In place of the awards, children should be awarded a decent pension so that they can grow and stand on their feet, and not live living from penny to penny. This will be a worthy tribute to the military who died in the line of duty.
          In service all day, Russia is on 24-no sound about a helicopter.
          1. kit-kat
            kit-kat April 12 2016 13: 45
            +1
            That's right. In Soviet times, there was a pension for the loss of a breadwinner, or something like that. Well, assign it or the like until the children reach adulthood. Well, let it be increased, some.
          2. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 April 12 2016 14: 32
            0
            The first message was fluent about a helicopter (16-35 Perm) on RTR 24.
          3. co-creator
            co-creator April 12 2016 15: 15
            0
            Quote: zadorin1974
            In service all day, Russia is on 24-no sound about a helicopter.

            All the same, there is a warrior, and today is Cosmonautics Day. It is not worth turning this day into mourning.

            No one will forget the guys, and no one will hide their death.
    4. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder April 12 2016 11: 51
      +5
      Well, how much can you ?! when will they make a normal catapult on turntables ?! or a spring in case of a hard landing ?! :(
      Condolences to the family! Unfortunately, if the malfunction could fall in peacetime
      1. Michael67
        Michael67 April 12 2016 12: 11
        0
        Condolences to families. Eternal memory to pilots.
        Shaitans and world imperialism will answer for everything. We have lists.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 12 2016 14: 50
        0
        As everything is just your spring, do it. There are cushioning chairs there, it could only be that a tree suddenly grew at the rate, or something else happened, so that the crew had no opportunity to react, much less tell something to the base.
  2. vglazunov
    vglazunov April 12 2016 11: 29
    +7
    Eternal memory to heroes!
    It is necessary to investigate the cause of the accident, perhaps this is not an accident or sabotage, the impacts can have a different nature.
    1. Hon
      Hon April 12 2016 11: 32
      -59%
      The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down
      1. RUSS
        RUSS April 12 2016 11: 33
        +1
        Quote: Hon
        The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down

        There is no evidence that helicopter fire was opened.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov April 12 2016 11: 35
          +6
          June 19 of that year was an MI-28 accident in the Russian Federation.

          They said in the Moscow Region that the reason was not shelling.

        2. Hon
          Hon April 12 2016 11: 35
          -51%
          Quote: RUSS
          There is no evidence that helicopter fire was opened.

          at the beginning of the article it is written that the helicopter crashed as a result of a strike from the ground
          1. Pacifist
            Pacifist April 12 2016 11: 43
            +8
            Read attentively.
            the crash was not the result of a strike from the ground, passes the channel
          2. Makcaga
            Makcaga April 12 2016 11: 49
            -41%
            On the fence is also written! :( It’s time to share all the official news on 2, and even on 3!
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            1. vanavatny
              vanavatny April 12 2016 11: 58
              +26
              they came running to jump on the bones, let people grieve, and the relevant services to figure it out, go to the censor
              1. vanavatny
                vanavatny April 12 2016 11: 59
                0
                oh one gray self-cleaning
            2. avva2012
              avva2012 April 12 2016 12: 01
              +6
              Quote: CRASH.Do you believe the official versions? Yes, if he was knocked down from a matyga, no one will ever say anything about it.

              Quote: Makcaga On the fence is also written! :( It’s time to share all the official news on 2, and even on 3!

              How much happiness then! Do not choke ....... ki
              1. Makcaga
                Makcaga April 12 2016 15: 36
                -6
                Is everything all right with your head? What is the count? People are dead!
          4. Koshak
            Koshak April 12 2016 15: 33
            +1
            Quote: Hon
            Quote: RUSS
            There is no evidence that helicopter fire was opened.

            at the beginning of the article it is written that the helicopter crashed as a result of a strike from the ground

            Do not distort, Svidomo. Here you are not "Censor" - will not give you a ride.
      2. Trigger-Happy
        Trigger-Happy April 12 2016 11: 34
        +1
        Quote: Hon
        The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down

        where is the information from?
      3. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock April 12 2016 11: 34
        +1
        Quote: Hon
        The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down

        They say that no helicopter fire was fired.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 12 2016 11: 40
          -8
          And while two pilots died - it’s strange somehow.
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          2. mitrich
            mitrich April 12 2016 13: 16
            0
            So they walk mostly near the ground, on a shaver. Maybe because of this they did not have time to react ((
      4. vovanpain
        vovanpain April 12 2016 11: 36
        +16
        Quote: Hon
        The reason is simple, the helicopter shot down

        Than a slingshot? Read carefully:
        According to the report from the crash site, there was no fire impact on the helicopter ”,

        The kingdom of heaven and eternal memory for the children.
      5. Gray-haired
        Gray-haired April 12 2016 11: 49
        +1
        It’s a pity that the queue passed by your ass on the couch! am
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 April 12 2016 12: 23
      +2
      Quote: vglazunov
      We need to investigate the cause of the accident,



      All accidents, and even the prerequisites for them, in aviation are always (!!!) thoroughly investigated ... It was, is and will be, otherwise it is very difficult to ensure flight safety ...
  3. elai
    elai April 12 2016 11: 30
    0
    well .. there was no effect apparently gathered something crooked again
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock April 12 2016 11: 35
      +2
      Quote: elai
      well .. there was no effect apparently gathered something crooked again

      Last year, the Mi-28N fell in Russia during exercises.
    2. Trigger-Happy
      Trigger-Happy April 12 2016 11: 37
      +2
      it was not the first flight of the car, so it is unlikely. Rather, a failure of some of the systems.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 12 2016 11: 42
        -15%
        And what could it have been refused that both pilots died.
        1. your1970
          your1970 April 12 2016 12: 27
          +5
          but don’t believe it - when falling and hitting the ground, even from low altitudes, the crews of aircraft usually die, with helicopters a little differently, if the height and skills allow autorotation happens and saves, but it happens and not .. And ANY piece of iron can render, alas it happens and even without fire from the earth ...
        2. Fregate
          Fregate April 12 2016 12: 37
          +12
          Quote: Vadim237
          And what could it have been refused that both pilots died.

          Probably no more idiotic question can be asked.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 12 2016 13: 14
            -6
            This helicopter has a rescue system - that's what I am for.
            1. Fregate
              Fregate April 12 2016 13: 23
              +2
              Quote: Vadim237
              This helicopter has a rescue system - that's what I am for.

              What are the rescue systems? Energy absorbing chassis and seats? Yes, even if the whole cabin can be filled with airbags, it will not save from a collision with the ground at high speed.
    3. Aleksey11
      Aleksey11 April 12 2016 11: 44
      +6
      well .. there was no effect apparently gathered something crooked again

      I am amazed at those who plus this throw on the fan blades.
  4. pavelty
    pavelty April 12 2016 11: 30
    +14
    But what is so sorry for men. Rest in peace
  5. d1m1drol
    d1m1drol April 12 2016 11: 31
    +6
    The kingdom to them is heaven. Their sky loved and took away ...
  6. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish April 12 2016 11: 31
    +12
    Everlasting memory!



    But Ka-52, unlike Mi-28, seems to have a catapult, even if I do not confuse anything.
    1. vvvjak
      vvvjak April 12 2016 11: 35
      +5
      there is a catapult with shooting propeller blades at the Ka-52
    2. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock April 12 2016 11: 36
      +2
      Quote: Kibalchish
      But Ka-52, unlike Mi-28, seems to have a catapult, even if I do not confuse anything.

      There is. And the number in 99 Ka-52 in service with the Russian Defense Ministry allowed using only them in Syria to increase survival in the event of an accident.
    3. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder April 12 2016 11: 56
      +3
      Quote: Kibalchish
      But Ka-52, unlike Mi-28, seems to have a catapult, even if I do not confuse anything.


      What’s better is to be taken, I have doubts about the Mi-28 that it’s good, it hurts too often
      1. Garris199
        Garris199 April 12 2016 19: 58
        -1
        The helicopter is unfinished. Taking it into service is a gamble or lobby. Or both.
    4. Manul
      Manul April 12 2016 12: 00
      +9
      Quote: Kibalchish
      But Ka-52, unlike Mi-28, seems to have a catapult, even if I do not confuse anything.

      1. The catapult is also not a panacea. The MI-28, as you know, has energy-absorbing chassis and seats to reduce damage from falling from low altitudes. Unfortunately, the height was apparently greater.
      2. Maybe they shot down. But on the other hand, some sources say that a commission works at the crash site, which means the territory is safe, which corresponds to the official version.
      3.Now there will be attacks on the Milevites in the same volume (and almost from the same people), in which this helicopter was praised yesterday. And there will be comparisons from some personalities that the "partners" fall less. So "partners" do not go into battle. Do not forget what tight scrapes our turntables get into there. Real assault helicopters. Unfortunately, this is fighting. So let's wait for the conclusions of the commission.
      Eternal memory to pilots.
      1. your1970
        your1970 April 12 2016 12: 31
        +1
        From the wiki (I didn’t find a quick one better, but I think they don’t lie)

        In the event of an emergency or catastrophic structural failure at a height of more than 100 m, the doors of both cabs are first shot, then the force-tightening belts are cut with special cutters, special “gangways” are inflated — balloons that prevent the crew from hitting the landing gear or turned gun, and the crew leaves car with parachutes.

        In the same situation, but at an altitude of less than 100 m, a system of forced belt tightening is activated, which reliably fixes the crew in the Pamir-K energy-absorbing seats developed by KB Zvezda. First, the main landing gear, which, being deformed, absorb it, extinguishes the impact energy. Next, the seats come into operation, which are able to pay off the vertical overload of the 50-60 g to 15-17 g, ensuring the safety of the pilot and the navigator-operator
        1. max702
          max702 April 12 2016 12: 46
          +4
          The question is does it all work on real technique? Alas, the declarations of the designers very often diverge from reality .. But it’s necessary to fight ... So, shortcomings and shortcomings are scored for many shortcomings ..
        2. ochakow703
          ochakow703 April 12 2016 13: 03
          +1
          And if on your side he fell over from a height of 100 meters?
  7. d1m1drol
    d1m1drol April 12 2016 11: 32
    -6
    I'm not a little shaver.
    1. d1m1drol
      d1m1drol April 12 2016 12: 42
      +2
      Guys for what? belay my flag was drawn in a British comment, I just made a correction. Do you beat right away wink . Or lovers of her majesty have gathered here.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal April 12 2016 16: 29
        +3
        Quote: d1m1drol
        Guys for what?

        - but nothing! And sho would not seem to be honey! wassat
      2. Manul
        Manul April 12 2016 22: 22
        +1
        Quote: d1m1drol
        Guys for what? my flag was drawn in a British comment, I just made a correction. And you beat right away. Or lovers of her majesty have gathered here.

        Vladimir, with your experience, an amazing ignorance of a possible leapfrog with flags in your profile. Moreover, pay attention to this in such news .. It is not surprising that some considered, to put it mildly, a flood and minus. There could be several dozen minuses.
  8. Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy April 12 2016 11: 33
    +12
    Any equipment sooner or later breaks down and there’s no getting around it !!! Sorry for the pilots ...
    1. Leks69Rus
      Leks69Rus April 12 2016 12: 38
      0
      Sooner or later? no, well, I understand if they would have thrown several dozen helicopters into Syria and they would have ironed the militants for 6 months already. And then a month did not pass when they decided to transfer the latest super duper mi-28 and ka-52, and then in the amount of 4 pieces each and already 1 fell. It is not normal. Mi-24/35, by the way, is already half a year there and not one has fallen.
    2. Briz
      Briz April 12 2016 18: 41
      0
      The fact of the matter is that early ... too early. Naturally, that accident also has an effect, under the cameras on air darts, the impression of dampness is deepening ... we are waiting for the conclusions of the commission.
      1. Trigger-Happy
        Trigger-Happy April 22 2016 12: 51
        0
        I read here an article about the fact that MI-28 is stillborn and flies, having an unresolved problem with the main gearbox. I take my words about "sooner or later" back. It seems clear why there are so many accidents with this car, the obvious lobbying of the Mil KB and betrayal !!!
  9. asadov
    asadov April 12 2016 11: 35
    +11
    wait for the investigation and find out the cause of the crash. I'm sure the men did everything they could. Land they rest in peace.
  10. alex-cn
    alex-cn April 12 2016 11: 35
    +4
    Sorry for the pilots ... Husim helicopter. Now we need to urgently understand the reasons in order to continue to prevent this.
  11. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 11: 35
    0
    Shot down most likely.
    1. SibRUS
      SibRUS April 12 2016 11: 49
      +2
      Night, low altitude ... More likely that power lines.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 12 2016 11: 56
        0
        Then the pilots are completely blind in your opinion - having a thermal imager and night vision devices of the latest generation.
    2. igor67
      igor67 April 12 2016 11: 51
      -4
      Hi Sanya, I already posted information from military materials today about another downed Syrian plane,
  12. V.ic
    V.ic April 12 2016 11: 38
    +5
    Guys, of course, sorry, but SHOW ME A TECHNIQUE THAT DOESN'T BREAK! / Even due to the impact of the so-called. "human factor".
  13. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 12 2016 11: 39
    +6
    Sorry for the guys, rest in peace, condolences to relatives ...
  14. Engineer engineer
    Engineer engineer April 12 2016 11: 40
    +2
    Quote: pavlentiy
    What is it

    War, brothers, war ...
  15. Xroft
    Xroft April 12 2016 11: 41
    +16
    If it turns out that the problem is again in the technical condition of the Mi-28, then it will prove once again that the raw Min.Oborone helicopter (which has been done for over 30 years) has crammed MI by MI ... Let me remind you that the Mi-28 lost a tender in India due to frequent surging of the engine after rocket launch. Also, for technical reasons, a car crashed at the Ryazan Air Show (you don’t need to say how to prepare equipment for such events) its exploitation was even completely stopped ... but the Mishniki lobby, as always, was at its best.
    As a result, the loss of equipment in combat conditions due to breakdowns (I repeat if this is true) 3 accident is a regularity, not counting those that crashed / made a hard landing at the preparatory stages.
    For comparison, the Ka-52 has 2 accidents, one at the test site (not combatant equipment) and the second at the training flight in Torzhok by mistake of pilots.
    1. max702
      max702 April 12 2016 12: 50
      +4
      By and large, Milevtsev should be asked for the ruined KA-50 for the sake of the stillborn MI-28 .. Alas, but as it was correctly noticed, 30 years were not enough for this design bureau to bring to mind the essence of an ancient machine rooted in Mi-24-Mi-8. .. I don’t feel like jumping on bones, but all the same, criminal decisions must be investigated and brought to justice!
      1. Absurdidat
        Absurdidat April 12 2016 14: 39
        0
        Maks702, it would be necessary to ask you where so much intelligence is then? What would you do alone in the KA-50 cockpit on the battlefield? would you fly back and forth? Do you know the reasons for abandoning the Ka-50? Have you talked with Mi-28 pilots? No. so what the hell is there to climb into experts and give advice on executions.
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock April 12 2016 14: 43
          0
          Quote: Absurdidat
          Have you talked with Mi-28 pilots? No. so what the hell is there to climb into experts and give advice on executions.

          http://lifenews.ru/news/196422
  16. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 April 12 2016 11: 41
    -8
    Representing the level of support for the airborne forces in Syria, I can say that it is unlikely that the pilots were sent to battle on a faulty machine. Most likely the men were shot down. Land they rest in peace and Hero of Russia both would need!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 12 2016 11: 58
      0
      Recently, there was news that the militants received 85 anti-aircraft missiles with a launch range of 20 kilometers.
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 12 2016 11: 42
    +8
    There is only sorrow. A trial for the reasons for the crash must be left to specialists and not to meddle with their versions. We will know the real reasons soon.
  18. RussianRoulette
    RussianRoulette April 12 2016 11: 43
    +8
    It doesn’t matter for what reason the car crashed, because of a technical malfunction, because of an attack from the ground, because of an error during complex maneuvering during a combat mission or some other ... even if the Ministry of Defense doesn’t agree
    The guys died in a foreign land, protecting the world from a cancer tumor, which only in a first approximation threatens individual regions. They died fighting for the truthwhich so aggressively any enemy world jackal turns into a broken penny today !!!
    Everlasting memory!!!
  19. Verdun
    Verdun April 12 2016 11: 43
    +5
    I would like more information. No speculation. And the guys feel sorry for anyone.
  20. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob April 12 2016 11: 45
    -6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Shot down most likely.

    No, just such a helicopter. The article said.
  21. newcomer
    newcomer April 12 2016 11: 45
    +5
    sorry for our pilots. eternal memory to the soldiers of the sky.
  22. anarchist
    anarchist April 12 2016 11: 45
    -6
    Perhaps with Aleppo, shot, MANPADS ???
  23. vch62388
    vch62388 April 12 2016 11: 46
    +12
    The cause of the crash of the Mi-28Н helicopter in Syria could be unfavorable flight conditions, the military-industrial complex told Interfax on Tuesday.

    “The flight was carried out over low-orientation terrain in conditions of almost complete darkness. Pilots piloted a combat vehicle with night vision goggles. It is possible that there could be some kind of obstacle that the helicopter collided with, ”the agency’s interlocutor said.

    However, he noted that the commission is now considering different versions
    accident.

    http://warfiles.ru/show-114847-stolknovenie-nazvali-vozmozhnoy-prichinoy-krushen
    iya-vertoleta-mi-28n-v-sirii.html

    “The final conclusions can be drawn after a thorough study of the materials of the objective control means,” the source emphasized.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 12 2016 12: 00
      +3
      This is an all-weather helicopter with five surveillance and tracking channels.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 April 12 2016 12: 05
        +5
        Quote: vch62388 The cause of the crash of the Mi-28Н helicopter in Syria could be unfavorable flight conditions, the military-industrial complex told Interfax on Tuesday.

        If, I’m not mistaken, are there any wild dust storms in Syria now? Maybe this is the reason? This is not a Kalashnikov assault rifle, in special. You can’t put a dust chamber in it, and the instrument is more complex.
        Eternal memory to the pilots!
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 April 12 2016 12: 32
        +4
        Quote: Vadim237
        This is an all-weather helicopter with five surveillance and tracking channels.



        Hmm ... Nobody has ever canceled the human factor ...

        Who knows what could happen, and even at night, that the pilots did not even have time to react ???

        Let the commission sort it out, but we have nothing to come up with ... We will wait - see and hear ... If the RF Ministry of Defense allows ...
    2. Leks69Rus
      Leks69Rus April 12 2016 12: 41
      -7
      Mi-28 from the very beginning was created as an all-weather and round-the-clock attack helicopter. No, well, unless of course there was a sandstorm that they’re lying. And so all the excuses, crap in one word.
  24. doework
    doework April 12 2016 11: 46
    +1
    Eternal memory to the officers!
    It’s a pity if the equipment failed. This is not the first state of emergency with the Mi-28N ...
  25. tchoni
    tchoni April 12 2016 11: 47
    +1
    Unfortunately, flight accidents do happen. And the same thing in war. And given the busy schedule of our air base .......
  26. Mikado
    Mikado April 12 2016 11: 47
    +2
    Eternal memory .. It's a pity somehow ..
  27. raid14
    raid14 April 12 2016 11: 48
    +1
    A version of piloting error at night in unfamiliar terrain is considered (collision with an obstacle, for example, a mountain slope or a power transmission line, is possible).
    1. Executer
      Executer April 12 2016 12: 02
      +6
      Would change the avatar, my friend ...
      And it’s disgusting to look at this face.
  28. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi April 12 2016 11: 48
    +11
    Eternal memory to the soldiers who have fulfilled their duty.
  29. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 12 2016 11: 50
    +1
    The Mi-28N helicopter is a new machine.
    New technology in the armed forces has always taken root not simply.
    Sorry, so sorry ...
  30. salad
    salad April 12 2016 11: 51
    -5
    ..............................
  31. Jatviag
    Jatviag April 12 2016 11: 51
    +1
    The Mi-28 at one time had problems with gearboxes. Perhaps a disaster is connected with this?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 12 2016 12: 01
      0
      You think that during the flight the main gearbox got jammed.
  32. Aleksander
    Aleksander April 12 2016 11: 53
    +1
    Woe, what woe .....
  33. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 April 12 2016 11: 54
    +10
    I would like administrators on such articles to close the "article rating"
  34. Patriot 771
    Patriot 771 April 12 2016 11: 55
    +3
    To figure it out - we'll figure it out. Only again, the best leave prematurely. Eternal memory to guys !!! In war as in war.
  35. dsm100
    dsm100 April 12 2016 11: 55
    +5
    Sorry, sorry and again sorry for the pilots and equipment.
  36. belroni
    belroni April 12 2016 11: 55
    +3
    Quote: Vadim237
    And what could it have been refused that both pilots died.

    You won’t believe it, but there are a lot of things there. And when the aircraft crashes, people usually die, and that’s all.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 12 2016 12: 06
      0
      There generally is an emergency rescue system - most likely the pilots tried to save the car, but it did not work out.
  37. Ugrumiy
    Ugrumiy April 12 2016 11: 56
    -1
    Why not equip all helicopters with catapults, after all, there is a positive experience with Kamov's turntables! If there were ejection seats, you see, both pilots would have remained alive. Again, they save on iron, losing people's lives. In general, it was necessary to give Sharks to the Alligators, in my opinion an excellent combination would have turned out, especially since the Shark had already been run in battle.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 April 12 2016 12: 36
      0
      Quote: Ugrumiy
      Why don’t they equip all helicopters with catapults, because there is positive experience with Kamov turntables!



      A great many such comments are about helicopter ejection systems ...

      However, they do not think about how high the helicopters operate in battle ...
      Or - when delivering some reconnaissance group at night to a certain square, in an unknown area ...

      Here no catapult will save ...
      1. hustler9090
        hustler9090 April 12 2016 15: 15
        -1
        The catapult saves when bailing from the ground. The pilot himself doesn’t care when. Purely psychologically. So turntables still have autorotation.
      2. Ugrumiy
        Ugrumiy April 14 2016 04: 37
        0
        Helicopter catapults, installed on both "Sharks" and "Alligators", operate from zero height and provide pilots rescue even when triggered on the ground! Plus the shooting of the blades, which reduces the severity of the accident and the possibility of injury to pilots.
  38. alfa19638
    alfa19638 April 12 2016 11: 56
    +2
    Everlasting memory !!!
  39. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN April 12 2016 12: 00
    +4
    A couple of days ago in VO there was an article stating that the barmaley had MANPADS in the amount of 85 pieces. It looks like they started using them. God bless our guys.
  40. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 April 12 2016 12: 00
    +2
    Eternal memory to the fallen guys.
    I feel sorry for the families of the pilots.
  41. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 12 2016 12: 02
    +2
    "The final conclusions can be drawn after a thorough study of the materials of objective control."

    Here is another loss ... Unfortunately, this is a war, a round-the-clock war in unusual conditions for our pilots. The guys do not return, but it is necessary to understand. Let's hope this is the last victim. Eternal memory for the children!
  42. vladimirw
    vladimirw April 12 2016 12: 08
    +2
    Eternal memory to heroes!
  43. Lincoln
    Lincoln April 12 2016 12: 13
    -18%
    After the delivery of the c300 to Iran, the number of anti-aircraft missiles from the Barmaleevs will increase dramatically, as will the number of such "equipment failures" ...
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 12 2016 12: 21
      +15
      Quote: Linkoln
      After the delivery of the c300 to Iran, the number of anti-aircraft missiles from the Barmaleevs will increase dramatically, as will the number of such "equipment failures" ...

      Absolutely fool or what, what S-300? What Iran? If only to throw shit on a fan? Like smooth brains, and one gyrus in the back. fool
  44. Leks69Rus
    Leks69Rus April 12 2016 12: 14
    +12
    Yes, because min. defense does not know what he wants! there is a saying for 2 hares chasing a single you will not catch! What Mi-28 is a new helicopter? since the 80s they have been doing it, it has been produced since 2005, for more than 10 years and they still won’t bring it to mind! Why do we need simultaneously 3 attack (mi-25/35, mi-28n and ka-52) helicopters? Mi-35 is enough to strike with nur and old peters, and neither mi-28 nor ka-52 were brought to mind. And if the ka-52 doesn’t seem to have purely technical problems, they still have a barrage for it. With the Mi-28 it’s even worse, the car is still raw both technically and in armament. Radar crossbow incomprehensibly put will not put will put or not. The sighting system is unstable. Night missions are not yet visible. And not in vain with the new helicopters in Syria, they pulled to the last one apparently unreliable! Instead of finally selecting 1 main attack helicopter and bringing it to mind and its armament, and only after starting the mass purchase we already have hundreds of ka-52s and mi-28s in service. At the same time, the Ka-52 in Syria flies with noras !!! with all that they wrote that the ka-52 is more perfect than the mi-28 in electronics radar, the crossbow is full stuffing and shoots with nuras. Ptur is using Mi-28, which is somehow strange and sometimes smears periodically on video. Despite the fact that the United States has 1 main attack helicopter an-64 apache, the marines have cobras, but this is done because of the savings, they are cheaper than the banal apaches and daptized for the infantry muzzle. And all because there is a kommushka komts, and in the production of ka-52 and mi-28, officials need to be fed. Madhouse!
    1. Xroft
      Xroft April 12 2016 12: 22
      +5
      I completely agree, the purpose of the Mi-28 is absolutely not clear, and it can never be compared with the survivability of the Mi-35. And the maneuvering of the Ka-52 (which is very important in applications in the mountains or in the foreground where the front-line helicopter should be) is also far , add the ability to bail out pilots.
      Again, in the framework of Kamovtsev’s support (since we don’t want to ruin the factory) it’s quite logical to take products from them, and to put emphasis on the unkillable for 35.
      Why do we need a raw already obsolete 28 is not clear .... only the fantastic influence of the lobby of the scouts, who already raise a lot of money on mi-8 and modifications around the world.
      1. Leks69Rus
        Leks69Rus April 12 2016 12: 59
        0
        I can not agree with you. Personally, I prefer the Mi-28, but this is purely subjective. I also disagree about security and survivability. Of all the trinity, the Mi-28 has the best armor, then the Ka-52 and Mi-35 are actually updated Mi-24. On the question of the dampness of the Mi-28, the question is not only to the manufacturer, but rather to our defense mines, why the machine does not need to be adjusted to the mind and whether they really need it, maybe it will work. By the way, Iraq has been operating the Mi-28 for quite some time and they had no losses and most likely the Mi-28 was delivered to them with better quality. It’s like with tanks abroad Algeria with a gun and air conditioning, but the T-72b3 will do.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 12 2016 14: 52
        0
        When Mi-28Н was launched into a series in Arseniev, the factory was okay, even though there were no bare walls.
  45. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec April 12 2016 12: 15
    +1
    Sad We will wait for the cause of the disaster.
  46. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha April 12 2016 12: 16
    +3
    Bad news. The guys are sorry, the young are still. THE KINGDOM OF YOU A HEAVENLY AND ETERNAL MEMORY ....
  47. AlexTires
    AlexTires April 12 2016 12: 21
    +4
    Most likely, the reason may be similar to the cause of the accident in Dubrovichi, namely, the failure of the hydraulic system ... IMHO, the helicopter was swallowed up by the MO "raw", and the technicians will be blamed for sending it on the flight ... Eternal memory to the guys!
  48. sania275
    sania275 April 12 2016 12: 24
    +1
    The death of soldiers is a tragedy for loved ones and grief for the Russians. But with what joy our "brothers" jump for joy from the independent, and there are plenty of them inside the country. They forgot that God is not Mikitka and that he sees who will offend whom, everyone will be reckoned.
  49. bumbarash
    bumbarash April 12 2016 12: 28
    +3
    The main thing is a pity for people. But also a minus on the reputation of the car. An incident can adversely affect potential customers. When the Superjet crashed somewhere uphill, it was long remembered. But you need to understand when else
    Will there be an opportunity to test the car in combat conditions? A war machine without war, like a hunting dog without hunting.
  50. Alpha
    Alpha April 12 2016 12: 32
    +2
    “Considering the various rescue systems for the crew, the Milians at first refused to eject the rotor blades, but the Mi-28N nevertheless installed fire bolts for attaching the blades. The rescue system works according to one of two algorithms, which have been developed and comprehensively tested at the moment:

    In the event of an emergency or catastrophic destruction of the structure at an altitude of more than 100 m, the propeller blades, wing consoles and doors of both cabins are first fired off, then forced pull belts are cut with special cutters, special "ladders" are inflated - ballonets that prevent the crew from touching the landing gear or rotated cannon, and the crew leaves the car with parachutes.

    In the same situation, but at an altitude of less than 100 m, a system of forced belt tightening is triggered, reliably fixing the crew in the Pamir-K energy-absorbing seats developed by the Zvezda Design Bureau. First, the impact energy is absorbed by the main landing gear, which, deforming, absorb it. Next, seats come into operation, which are able to extinguish the vertical overload of 50-60 g to 15-17 g, providing injury safety to the pilot and the navigator-operator. "
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires April 12 2016 12: 36
      +4
      Quote: Alpharu
      First, the main landing gear, which, when deformed, absorb it

      this is provided that the helicopter falls on the chassis