"Rostec": created a universal thermal imager

Holding "Shvabe" (included in "Rostec"), has created and is preparing for serial production a universal thermal imager for observation and aiming, capable of operating in a wide range of temperatures, reports press office corporations.

The device has passed all the necessary tests and is ready for serial production.

According to the press service, the imager "weighs only 400 g and is effective in the temperature range from –40 to + 50 ° C”.

The device “creates a visible image of an object by scanning its thermal radiation. The device is not inferior to foreign counterparts in terms of ease of use, design and technical parameters, ”the release notes.

“A miniature and lightweight device allows equally successfully to observe the terrain or to hunt at any time of the day using the bracket for mounting on a small weapons. We intend to expand our sales geography and the list of partners. Projects on joint development and production of thermal imaging devices with foreign partners at our base can also be implemented, ”

said Shvabe general director Vasily Rassokhin.

According to the information, last year the holding “increased the production volumes by 36%, more than doubled the export performance indicators: today, the plant’s instruments are supplied to the EU, the USA, Switzerland, the PRC and other countries”.

Comments

[PKK]

The device is excellent. It raises enthusiasm. I would like to further learn: from domestic components made? What kind of food? And how much ?.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: PKK

And how much is it ?.

I join the question, recalling the prices of imported analogues.

[Spartanez300]

The PT-2 thermal imager, the working range from -30 to +50, costs 650 rubles, and this one is even newer.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Spartanez300

The PT-2 thermal imager costs 650 rubles.

Pulsars are cheaper.

[Secondly,]

Yesterday, 16: 03
Milling Required
JSC "Shvabe - Defense and Protection"
Novosibirsk,
25–000 rub.
I can’t say anything bad about the enterprise, recently one of the directors spoke on the board. I was surprised, but they really compete very much with amers, in the cheapness of the devices and their quality !!! The only difficulty is the workers. Well, tell me, who will live on such a zp in the city of half a million people?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: andre

Well, tell me, who will live on such a zp in the city of half a million people?

but how do 8-12 thousand people live in "regions"? for housing and communal services they pay the same, and they also want to eat ...

[UREC]

But sometimes it happens in places and even less and there is no choice of jobs!

[DenZ]

Quote: andre

Well, tell me, who will live on such a salary in the city of half a million people

For the same salary, I also wipe my pants in the office in one and a half million people. Without V / O, just standing at the machine for that kind of money is fine.

[base66]

this pants wipe normally

[DenZ]

this pants wipe normally

Well, it already exaggerated to himself like that. The work is sedentary but in general I am doing a very useful job for the country and for the city (Yekaterinburg)

[vkl.47]

I work for such a salary in the Moscow Region on a defense KB. And NOT NO.

[alexanderrzn]

zp normal for a soviet collective farm, which for the most part are now defense enterprises. 100 people are recruited based on the fact that at least 20 will work. therefore instead of 100-150 that it is really possible to pay an employee they pay 20-30, parasites also need to throw money on the booze. on the same, and all defense stray are worth a million, a regular bolt from a defense differs by a price of once every 100

[Trigger-Happy]

Quote: alexanderrzn

zp normal for a soviet collective farm, which for the most part are now defense enterprises. 100 people are recruited based on the fact that at least 20 will work. therefore instead of 100-150 that it is really possible to pay an employee they pay 20-30, parasites also need to throw money on the booze. on the same, and all defense stray are worth a million, a regular bolt from a defense differs by a price of once every 100

Yes there is such, apparently the state fulfills some kind of social plan.

[Altona]

Quote: alexanderrzn

zp normal for a soviet collective farm, which for the most part are now defense enterprises. 100 people are recruited based on the fact that at least 20 will work. therefore instead of 100-150 that it is really possible to pay an employee they pay 20-30, parasites also need to throw money on the booze. on the same, and all defense stray are worth a million, a regular bolt from a defense differs by a price of once every 100

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First, workers in the majority work normally for money. Those "who do not want to work" (due to low qualifications or lack of motivation) are not kept at the enterprise. Such a salary is caused by large overhead costs of enterprises, because the volume of the plant's infrastructure often does not correspond to the scale of production (10 times less than under the Soviets). And the second factor is the belittling of the role of workers and engineers. Now everything rested on sales and finding financial resources, and therefore, you know who, you know, the financial and commercial director pays decently, the rest smoke. In general, the state does not interfere in this as a regulator and does not even support trade unions. Hence the chaos and excesses in wages. But Putin publicly recognized this as normal.

[user]

In general, the state does not intervene in this as a regulator and does not even support unions. Hence the chaos and excesses in wages. But Putin has publicly acknowledged this as normal.

After this recognition, finding a normal engineer and worker is a very big problem. I already wrote that without the experience of managing real production, we do not have leaders who see the real problems of that very production.
For reference, when the first Su-34s were assembled, the machine tool workers for their production were brought on a rotational basis from Kazan, this is the real situation in production and all because of that

the state does not intervene as a regulator

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[UREC]

Yes, vocational schools have been reduced, we had 4 (the city of 60 thousand) and 2 technical schools now all have a water bottle - CPS, and industrial specialties were also reduced, and different hairdressers, managers and bank clerks were added. Welded and machinists nafig not needed? Where does the personnel reserve come from ???

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Altona

. But Putin has publicly acknowledged this as normal.

And I would NOT!

[Altona]

Quote: Saratoga833

Quote: Altona
. But Putin has publicly acknowledged this as normal.

And I would NOT!

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Remember this nuance, when it came to salaries in state-owned corporations at the level of managers, Putin said that he had to pay top management at the level of international salaries. That is, a salary of 7 million per month to a person who has some kind of insider information and small connections in business circles of the West is considered normal and even low. And to their slaves to pay on the residual principle. I only understood his thought this way, otherwise it is impossible to understand him. Well, 13% of the income tax on a flat scale from the same opera. Because top management can buy shares of the company and live on dividends that are taxed at 6%. A lot of ways, not to mention kickbacks.

[alexanderrzn]

firstly, as I already wrote 90% of enterprises are soviet collective farms, and here I see those who either were not at such factories, or belong to the caste of magic people who turn such factories into rubbish and a pile of scrap metal. magical people are those who don’t work due to the fact that they don’t know how to do anything, but dad, mom, aunt, uncle attached him and so he solemnly goes to work, and gets a sn which is taken out not only from the pocket of his shop assistant who works for 3, but most often from our pockets of taxpayers, as subsidies to a defense company such as modernization, but as a rule, millions go to wall plastering, repairing the toilet in the administrative building and bonuses to magic people. and who you are holding there or not, you’re wrong, here we have a factory with a red banner, where a milling machine operator receives from 25 to 35 thousand rubles with a 6th discharge. the same thing on the heat device. moreover, if you do specific details more and better, but you have less discharge, you will receive less. at our enterprise (private), the milling machine operator receives from 50 to 120, and the main thing is the quality and quantity of manufactured parts, and not discharge and magic.

[Locksmith]

Quote: andre

Well, tell me, who will live on such a zp in the city of half a million people?

As a rule, this is a salary, then a bonus, then a PERSONAL ALLOWANCE and this is all official, that is, taking into account the fact that you get vacation pay and sick leave, for example, with a salary of 22t I get clean 35, vacation 65, tolerable

[sergo1914]

Most likely this is a salary. Usually there is still a bonus (bonus) part and surcharges. They talk about this component when concluding an employment contract. Posting it is not accepted.

[Altona]

Quote: sergo1914

Most likely this is a salary. Usually there is still a bonus (bonus) part and surcharges. They talk about this component when concluding an employment contract. Posting it is not accepted.

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Usually they can throw. Who are you? Not a matchmaker or brother.

[sergo1914]

Throw? Under an employment contract? Think what you say? This can be thrown on the market. A serious employer will not substitute and will take risks. Overhead.

[Altona]

Quote: sergo1914

Throw? Under an employment contract? Think what you say? This can be thrown on the market. A serious employer will not substitute and will take risks. Overhead.

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I don’t know, where I didn’t apply, they offer 10-ku officially and the rest "in black". And I also know how the promised "black" is paid. And in order to make a dofig in the employment contract, then the salary fund will be dofigash, and the social tax for you is dofigash too. You are not the only one there.

[dogens]

Quote: Altona

Quote: sergo1914

Throw? Under an employment contract? Think what you say? This can be thrown on the market. A serious employer will not substitute and will take risks. Overhead.

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I don’t know, where I didn’t apply, they offer 10-ku officially and the rest "in black". And I also know how the promised "black" is paid. And in order to make a dofig in the employment contract, then the salary fund will be dofigash, and the social tax for you is dofigash too. You are not the only one there.

Not at a state-owned enterprise. Believe me. I worked for 5 years in a commercial organization, which was controlled by the Ministry of Agriculture, the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Justice. That's where everything started in white, and everything went in white to the end.
Another thing is that there are always ways to get rid of a person. And this is a sorry way of not paying him the money.

[PKK]

The company announced the price of the simplest thermal heater at 250 thousand rubles. The price of 650 thousand was apparently made in order to collect first from the rich, then it will be reduced to medium, but it will not reach us.

[PKK]

The company announced the price of the simplest thermal heater at 250 thousand rubles. The price of 650 thousand was apparently made in order to collect first from the rich, then it will be reduced to medium, but it will not reach us.

[Oleneboy_]

Where are these prices?

[Blondy]

Quote: Spartanez300

The PT-2 thermal imager, the working range from -30 to +50, costs 650 rubles, and this one is even newer.

A familiar story, let's remember the "Baikal" servers at a "non-commercial price". Judging by the weight of these thermal imagers - obviously from non-port-substituted components, ours would definitely weigh at least 2-3 kg.

[vkl.47]

it looks like the terminator’s eye. or the eye of sauron. in general it’s always pleasant from such news about new products in the technical environment.

[Dyagilev]

And how much is it?

The device is not inferior to foreign analogues

[atakan]

So far "just created".)
the price is probably 1 million!

[Black Colonel]

And you used it that express such enthusiasm? Let specialists admire, if there is anything, and share their impressions.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Well ... we can, whenever we want ... to the devil French and Chinese "toys"! The Shvabe philosophy
"Using the power of light, we penetrate the darkness, discover the unknown and go beyond the usual ..." http://shvabe.com/products/

[evil partisan]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

"Using the power of light, we penetrate the darkness, discover the unknown and go beyond the usual ..."

So ... Yurić no longer pour - enlightenment on him already descended.
Hello, intruder!

[Altona]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Well ... we can, whenever we want ... to the devil French and Chinese "toys"! The Shvabe philosophy
"Using the power of light, we penetrate the darkness, discover the unknown and go beyond the usual ..." http://shvabe.com/products/

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Do Carl Zeiss and Leica know about this?

[Spartanez300]

The hunters were warmed up with a thermal imager.

[Sirocco]

“The miniature and lightweight device allows equally successful monitoring of the terrain or hunting at any time of the day using the bracket for mounting on small arms.

All this is good, but not everyone can hunt with this device, for he will have a horse price tag (I suspect)
About five years ago, a businessman who was familiar to me, acquired through someone in the states a similar miracle, which cost him about 30 thousand green.
So not for everyone and everyone. Alas((((

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Sirocco

All this is good, but not everyone can hunt with this device.

yes and no fucking ... come out honestly not a beast !. otherwise they hang up optics on the screw cutters, and call THIS hunting ... it's just shooting, anyway, like "fishing" with Chinese nets.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

and not fucking ... come out not beast honestly !. and then they hang on optics screw cutters, and they call IT hunting.

This is a double-edged sword, since there is a demand, there will be an offer, and many who are able to afford these devices already. You cannot stop progress. I myself have an NVD Dipole of the 1st generation, an old device, but the thing is good at the storehouse, and it helped me more than once.
Well, with poaching in the forest we have to start fighting, with the huntsmen and those close to them, I witnessed how the huntsmen dabbled in the forest, the guys slept, checked the documents, and got out, but the whole car, and around the car, all over the ears set, asked, they say what are you looking for, the answer, headlight, which? Isn’t that the one with which you left for the slope? Because of which slope? what headlight? You thought they were saying.
What about mortals?
In general, this topic is painful and big. You can talk for a long time, and nothing. Alas.

[jan]

I completely agree!!! hunting has turned from a necessity. into a bloody entertainment. Now, in my opinion, no one is dying of hunger to hang around with a barrel with devices and go to kill animals. and then boast of "trophies." garden! Oh yeah! there he will have no equal. Take the knife, hero, go to the bear.

[IS-80_RVGK]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

yes and no fucking ... come out honestly not a beast !. otherwise they hang up optics on the screw cutters, and call THIS hunting ... it's just shooting, anyway, like "fishing" with Chinese nets.

Is it like melee or something? Chot, there are some doubts in this situation to defeat a fellow bear.

[jan]

so if you get bored, there’s nothing to go around.))) with a grenade then will it be bolder?

[Alexanast]

I absolutely agree with you. I go hunting since I was 7 years old, first with my father, with my brother, then myself. Very tell you infuriated newfangled hunters. They hang all kinds of electronic crap, from optics to a smoothbore to all kinds of electronic decoys, shumkov-thermal imagers and, like, hunt, you get pleasure ... Ugh .

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Sirocco

All this is good, but not everyone can hunt with this device, for he will have a horse price tag (I suspect)
About five years ago, a businessman who was familiar to me, acquired through someone in the states a similar miracle, which cost him about 30 thousand green.
So not for everyone and everyone. Alas((((

Now the price tags start at 250000 rubles for the simplest.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Vladimirets

Now the price tags start at 250000 rubles for the simplest.

That's what I'm talking about. So it is not for mere mortals.

[igorek4515]

According to the press service, the imager "weighs only 400 g and is effective in the temperature range from –40 to + 50 ° C”.

This phrase interests me most of all .. And actually from it the following question arises: what type of matrices were used there .. Microbolometric or something newer ..? That's about it i.e. not a word about the technical details. At least even in general terms ..

[demo]

The Shvabe company has an interesting name, and it is also part of Rostec.

[Coconut Tima]

In 1837, entrepreneur Fedor Shvabe opened a trading company and a workshop for the sale and manufacture of optical devices in Moscow.

[Barakuda]

"The time of foundation of the firm" F. Shvabe ", which became at the beginning of the twentieth century the largest company in Russia for the production of optical, physical, geodetic instruments and medical instruments, is indicated in different ways in different sources. This time differs from 1837 (Central Historical Archive of Moscow , fund 17, inventory 26, storage unit 40) until 1852 (in the Jubilee edition issued by the firm in 1912) In any case, the first mention of Fyodor (Theodor) Shvab is in the "Address-calendar of Moscow residents" for 1851 year. "Shvabe, Theodor, 3rd guild merchant, Myasnitskaya part on Kuznetsky Most, house of Prince Golitsyn." The company was organized by a Swiss citizen Fyodor Borisovich Schwabe (1814 - later 1879), in the form of a small store, with the sale of glasses, pince-nez and others small optical accessories received from abroad.Then a workshop was opened for the repair and manufacture of optical and physical devices.In the early years, the shop and workshop were located in the Myasnitskaya district, 2nd block in the Shilovsky house (No. 121). Soon, the Shvabe institution moved to the house of Prince Golitsyn on the Kuznetsky Most. The possession of Prince Golitsyn occupied the area between Rozhdestvenka, Bolshaya Lubyanka and Kuznetsky Most. The firm "F. Shvabe "is located in a house on the corner of Bolshaya Lubyanka and Kuznetsky Most (now there is a new FSB building in this place"
"On August 31, 1917, F. Shvabe JSC was transformed into Geofizika JSC. The fixed capital of the company amounted to 2 rubles. The safety margin of Geofizika JSC and the skillful management of the enterprise allowed the company to survive a difficult revolutionary time. At the end of 500 the enterprise was nationalized, and the main specialization of the plant was the production of geodetic instruments and microscopes "

This is so fast.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: demo

The Shvabe company has an interesting name, and it is also part of Rostec.

Holding history

The history of the creation of the Schwabe Holding begins in the distant 1837. It was then that entrepreneur-innovator Fedor Shvabe opened a trading company and a workshop for the sale and manufacture of optical devices in Moscow.

In 1853, Schwabe took part in the All-Russian Manufacturing Exhibition for the first time, presenting a large telescope, several microscopes, scales and a sundial at the exposition. The debut was very successful: Fedor Schwabe was awarded the Big Silver Medal.http: //rostec.ru/about/holdings/345

[Mountain shooter]

Most importantly, whose matrix is ​​it? If your own, then this is an absolute achievement, and you can be proud of it. In the world, on the fingers of one hand, you can count the manufacturers of such matrices.

[Smoked]

That is also very interesting.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

whose matrix is ​​it?

Before that, Schwabe used French.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Most importantly, whose matrix is ​​it?

"Shvabe" themselves do not make matrices, if not imported then NPO "Orion" most likely.
http://orion-ir.ru/produkciya/

[rotmistr60]

Shvabe Holding (part of Rostec)

I was surprised by the name of the holding, as I honestly have never heard of him. I had to turn to the search engine:

The name of the Holding is by the name of a native of Germany, a Moscow merchant of the third guild, Theodor (Fedor Borisovich) Schwabe

It seems to me that the name of the holding may perhaps answer the question that was asked above about components.

[igorek4515]

Most importantly, whose matrix is ​​it?

The matrix is ​​most likely Russian but according to German technology. Concern "Shvabe" .. In Russia, its own development of such products has only recently begun. In general, uncooled microbolometric arrays are used in thermal imagers of this class. They seem to be somewhat simpler and cheaper than refrigerated ones, more compact, which allows us to make compact devices. Here's something like this ..

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: igorek4515

The matrix is ​​most likely Russian but according to German technology. Concern "Shvabe".

is there such a German concern ??? "what is your proof?" (C)

[black]

The question is different. How many of them will be purchased by law enforcement agencies, if at all, will be purchased for military purposes.

[VP]

And why did you get the idea that they are suitable for law enforcement agencies and for military purposes?
The article has nothing, no characteristics and details, except for temperature and weight.
There is nothing to discuss at all.

[VP]

Tell me, what is the news about?
The fact that someone released a thermal imager?
I mean, we didn’t have thermal imagers before, but now they are made?

[pts-m]

Interesting: Is protection from these thermal imagers designed? otherwise, the motto of the war will be: "destroy everything that moves." Protection is required!

[PKK]

It has been developed for a long time, it is a raincoat. There is a type of nanogork that does not let heat rays out. Only you can’t wash it, its properties disappear.

[kit-kat]

I think the hunters do not need to sell it, but for the army - the right thing.

[avg-mgn]

Quote: PTS-m

Interesting: Is protection from these thermal imagers designed? otherwise, the motto of the war will be: "destroy everything that moves." Protection is required!

How do you imagine this? You can cool a warm object (even with liquid nitrogen), but the thermal imager recognizes it by the difference in temperature with the environment and BABAH. Except for anything good, it was not invented except for thermal illumination of aerosol fog. But all this weakly helps with digital information processing.

[Herbalist]

IMHO. Cellophane bags and glass, partially shield thermal radiation. If you look closely at the thermal imager, you see your reflection, if from far away xs what it is, you have to peer. Yes, it still rains and especially the fog from the thermal imager covers well, it’s not that it doesn’t see, it just does not finish far.

[PKK]

To cheat is simple, a little physics.

[Anglorussian]

There are several suitable experiments on this topic on the pipe. TinHatRanch n PatriotSuit channels

[Anglorussian]

eto vot tot samij

[atakan]

Quote: Sirocco

one familiar businessman, acquired through someone in the states like that

He probably left the states during that time, now for a simple purchase of thermal imagers in the states specialists for Russians are given a term of imprisonment and rammed the whole company in bulk))

[aviator1913]

But did the thermal imagers that were used before have significant problems with the temperature range? At -30 (or -27) degrees, a thermal imager worked for us (but the battery died very quickly).

And which characteristics are unique in this thermal imager?

[VP]

Wangyu: now they’ll stick you cons, you can’t doubt at least some value and information content of this article

[Vadim237]

But actually the device itself is being written about.