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The National Guard of the Russian Federation is invited to call Rosgvardia

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Discussion news that a new power structure, the National Guard, has appeared in Russia has been going on all of the past few days (since the signing of the relevant presidential decree). The main questions were caused by the name of the structure in the light of what constitutes, for example, a Ukrainian structure with a similar name. Public concerns about this have led to the suggestion that the short name of the National Guard of Russia should be used as follows: Rosgvardiya.


The National Guard of the Russian Federation is invited to call Rosgvardia


Federal portal of draft regulatory legal acts:

1. The Federal Service of the National Guard of the Russian Federation (Rosgvardia) is a federal executive body that performs the development and implementation of state policy and legal regulation in the sphere of activity of the National Guard of the Russian Federation, in the sphere of turnover weapons, in the sphere of private security activity and in the sphere of private security.

2. The main tasks of the Rosguards are:
1) participation, jointly with the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation, in the protection of public order, ensuring public safety and the state of emergency;
2) participation in the fight against terrorism and in ensuring the legal regime of the counterterrorist operation;
3) participation in the fight against extremism;
4) participation in the territorial defense of the Russian Federation;
5) protection of important public facilities and special cargoes in accordance with the lists approved by the Government of the Russian Federation;
6) protection on a contractual basis of property of citizens and organizations, as well as objects subject to mandatory protection in accordance with the list approved by the Government of the Russian Federation;
7) assisting border agencies of the federal security service in guarding the state border of the Russian Federation;
8) the implementation of federal state control (supervision) over the observance of the legislation of the Russian Federation in the sphere of weapons circulation and in the sphere of private security activities, as well as the implementation of private security;
9) the command of the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation (hereinafter referred to as the troops of the National Guard), territorial bodies and divisions of the Russian Guard (hereinafter referred to as the bodies);
10) ensuring social and legal protection of military personnel, persons with a special rank (hereinafter - employees), and federal civil servants of the Rosgvardia, as well as social and legal support of employees of the Rosgvardia, citizens dismissed from military service (service), their family members, other persons whose appropriate security is assigned to Rosgvardia under the legislation of the Russian Federation.


The full text of the Statute of the Federal Guard Service can be found on this portal by clicking on link.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii April 12 2016 06: 25
    -9
    It doesn’t matter what they call the main thing to solve the tasks.
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. April 12 2016 06: 28
      +38
      Quote: Teberii
      No matter what they call


      As can be seen from the comments, even here, in VO- it is important what the guard will be called. Rosguard- quite an acceptable option.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech April 12 2016 06: 33
        +16
        it’s important what the guard will be called.


        I agree ... not a cop ... not a cop ... not rubbish but respectfully as they called the KGB in the USSR and the people ... committee ... office.

        True, this still needs to be earned.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 April 12 2016 08: 34
          +5
          Quote: The same LEKHA ..committee ... office.

          Nostalgia prevailed. Deep Drilling Committee! laughing
          1. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ April 12 2016 09: 19
            +20
            And in general, where does the "Guard"?

            "Guard" in battles, blood and sweat, our soldiers earned in the war with foreign invaders.
            Exclusively rocket artillery (Katyusha) was given the title of "Guards", at the expense of future merits, in the fight against the invaders of our Motherland.

            And here it is somehow not ours, not in Russian. This designation is incorrect "Guard" for internal troops. Licking the foreign vocabulary in the name of the internal troops - "National Guard".
            In the Russian traditional military designation "Guard" is mixed with something foreign, not ours, destroying our glorious military traditions of the troops, the Army.
            This is the same when "Yeltsin and Co." distributed military shoulder straps to everyone, including tax officers, bailiffs, sanitary inspectors and other non-military organizations.
            Something like that.
            If you don’t want the name "internal troops", take something else from our glorious history, invent something new, but do not belittle the glorious combat deserved past of combat troops, the Army in battles with foreign invaders. It may still come in handy.
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 April 12 2016 09: 25
              +3
              Quote: vladimirZ Exclusively rocket artillery ("Katyushas") were given the title of "Guards", on account of future merits

              Perhaps I am mistaken, but in advance, they gave the title of the guard, and also the tank units of the breakthrough, which included the IS-2.
              1. Poppy
                Poppy April 12 2016 09: 47
                +2
                and the paratrooper was given in advance
              2. Mahmut
                Mahmut April 12 2016 09: 57
                0
                All the same, it’s not in vain that we are komenty here. No, no, yes, and they will.
            2. Blondy
              Blondy April 12 2016 11: 06
              0
              Quote: vladimirZ
              If you don't want the name "internal troops", take something else from our glorious history,

              Oprichny troops, presidential corps,
              1. Altona
                Altona April 12 2016 11: 47
                +1
                Quote: Blondy
                Oprichny troops, presidential corps,

                -----------------------
                Streletsky army still remember and will be completely already. Guard troops and sovereign regiment. And hats with cunts, caftans with sashes. For me, all these renaming will not lead to anything. The new stripes will only be new, and the mess is old, as with the police. Yes, and consultations with the people could be carried out as in the case of the police. True, little has been taken from the people.
                1. Blondy
                  Blondy April 12 2016 11: 59
                  +1
                  Oh, don’t take blondes too seriously.
                2. Max_Bauder
                  Max_Bauder April 12 2016 12: 07
                  0
                  Quote: Altona
                  Streletskoye army


                  Yeah, and the Transfiguration, Izmailovsky and Kostroma regiments laughing
            3. your1970
              your1970 April 12 2016 12: 57
              +2
              vladimirZ
              "This is the same when Yeltsin and Co distributed military shoulder straps to everyone, including tax officers, bailiffs, sanitary inspectors and other non-combat organizations."

              You will not believe that bailiffs in the USSR had shoulder straps, and the financial inspector also didn’t go underpants, the railroad workers were always in uniform (the road chiefs always had the general rank / title), foresters, landowners, special communications and mailers, etc. etc. Just had interruptions in militarization (and even that wasn’t all). Borka didn’t come up with anything new, everything was already

              The only one I don’t know for sure is the SES officers (they were all reserve officers, but there seemed to be no departmental shoulder straps)
              1. Letnab
                Letnab April 12 2016 13: 55
                +2
                Quote: your1970
                vladimirZ
                "This is the same when Yeltsin and Co distributed military shoulder straps to everyone, including tax officers, bailiffs, sanitary inspectors and other non-combat organizations."

                You will not believe that bailiffs in the USSR had shoulder straps, and the financial inspector also didn’t go underpants, the railroad workers were always in uniform (the road chiefs always had the general rank / title), foresters, landowners, special communications and mailers, etc. etc. Just had interruptions in militarization (and even that wasn’t all). Borka didn’t come up with anything new, everything was already

                The only one I don’t know for sure is the SES officers (they were all reserve officers, but there seemed to be no departmental shoulder straps)

                Under the USSR, civil services wore buttonholes on collars, but not shoulder straps ...
                1. your1970
                  your1970 April 12 2016 18: 07
                  -1
                  especially railway workers and bailiffs did not wear epaulettes, huh, well ...
                  The question is not this - the presence of even buttonholes suggests the presence of a rank / rank, they almost never coincided (and even now do not match) with military ranks, but they were and are ...
                2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
                  Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 12 2016 21: 03
                  +1
                  There was a period - during the war and, in my opinion, until the death of Stalin, when shoulder straps were worn by railwaymen, diplomats and other services, even pilots and cadets of civil aviation. This came to power when the Khrushchev began to switch to buttonholes. Everything is changing - shoulder straps have been introduced in the prosecutor's office, although all the lawyers and advisers are there, the shoulder straps are almost of army type. The bailiffs also had almost army epaulets, now they have been changed to epaulettes of civil servants.
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      2. Voha_krim
        Voha_krim April 12 2016 06: 45
        +16
        Rosguard is a completely different matter. And the National Guard, at least kill, but reminded ukrov.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 07: 19
          +4
          Quote: Voha_krim
          And the National Guard, at least kill, but reminded ukrov.

          Well, if thinking is not accepted in life, then of course it will remind.
          There were similar comments when the police were remade into police, policemen resembled.
          Probably our nettles in their actions are equivalent to you with Ukrainian scumbags.
          1. Kibalchish
            Kibalchish April 12 2016 07: 55
            +16
            Alexander, you are wrong. No one is lining our guys with the guys from the independent, it’s just the media over the past 2 years that we have buzzed about the National Guard of Ukraine, that the people have already formed a negative attitude towards this phrase - the national guard. I believe that our management has made the right decision! But this is only my opinion, someone may not agree with him ...
          2. IS-80_RVGK
            IS-80_RVGK April 12 2016 08: 53
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Probably our nettles in their actions are equivalent to you with Ukrainian scumbags.

            And really. It could be called a circus and a clown. Also such good names.
        2. Sirocco
          Sirocco April 12 2016 08: 14
          +5
          Quote: Voha_krim
          Rosguard is a completely different matter.

          I personally closer National Guard, the National Guard does not sound.
          I propose to consider simply Guards, without any prefixes. I think many wore this sign on their chests.
          If about the associations that this name evokes, then time heals, everything will pass, and the bad will be forgotten. Our Police with its "exploits" can also be renamed for a long time and every time.
          I have a very similar association to the Zhovtoblakitny flag, but the irony of fate is that the Republic of Buryatia in which I live has the same flag (almost)
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 April 12 2016 08: 22
            0
            Quote: Sirocco I propose to consider just the Guard, without any prefixes.

            Guard, Guard, good!
            Here it is, simple and capacious. I am for.
          2. Alexey-74
            Alexey-74 April 12 2016 08: 39
            0
            The guard sounds proud !!! The Guard has fanned itself with fame !!!!
          3. ltc22A
            ltc22A April 12 2016 08: 41
            +6
            Quote: Sirocco
            Quote: Voha_krim
            Rosguard is a completely different matter.

            I personally closer National Guard, the National Guard does not sound.
            I propose to consider simply Guards, without any prefixes. I think many wore this sign on their chests.

            I slightly disagree. "Just" Guards belongs to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and the Russian Guard has completely different tasks. The National Guard also does not like it, because It means protection (ital. guardia - protection) of national interests, and Rosguard - protection of Russian interests (I think you do not need to remind how many nationalities live in the Russian Federation).
            In general, it was high time to create the Russian Guard, Internal troops also sounded somehow wrong.
            soldier
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco April 12 2016 09: 09
              +1
              Quote: ltc22A
              I slightly disagree. "Just" the Guard belongs to the RF Armed Forces, while the National Guard has completely different tasks. The National Guard doesn't like it either
              The roots of the Guard are much deeper. But the Guard sign was awarded to units and formations for the exploits of valor.
              The Russian Guard, or the Russian Imperial Guard, or the Life Guard (Italian guardia - guard, protection from it. Leib - body), that is, bodyguards - a selected privileged part of the armed forces of the Russian Empire.
              Given modern life, then rename them to the Life Guard.
              But the Rosguard does not sound. But the National Guard is itself, given the multinational Russia.
              Still, the Guard is closer to me.
          4. ltc22A
            ltc22A April 12 2016 08: 47
            +3
            Quote: Sirocco
            Quote: Voha_krim
            Rosguard is a completely different matter.

            I personally closer National Guard ........
            I have a very similar association to the Zhovtoblakitny banner

            The National Guard is not only in Ukraine, but also in another 14 countries. So there is no need to breed complexes regarding the name. I agree, recently in the media a lot of negative has been heard about the actions of NSUkraine. But it will pass. hi
      3. makst83
        makst83 April 12 2016 06: 48
        +31
        "form" (name) is not important, content is important.
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        2. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 April 12 2016 08: 39
          +1
          In the Donbass ....
        3. Per se.
          Per se. April 12 2016 09: 25
          +3
          Quote: makst83
          "form" (name) is not important, content is important.

          In general, "As you name a yacht, so it will float", everything is important, and the name, and the form, and the content, it is hardly reasonable to oppose one to the other. "Rosgvardia", White Guard or Red, only the word "guard" is important, but here, in contrast to "14 more" countries with the National Guard, Russia still has guards army units, that is, the Guard. Which guard will be more guard, in this situation? Not having decided on this, there was no need to rush to the name, they could simply call everything the Special Forces Corps or some kind of "Legion", for example, "Sparta" or "Presidential".
      4. SSR
        SSR April 12 2016 06: 49
        +2
        Quote: B.T.W.
        Quote: Teberii
        No matter what they call


        As can be seen from the comments, even here, in VO- it is important what the guard will be called. Rosguard- quite an acceptable option.

        Yes, as you can see, not only in VO there are ukrofobes that have grown sober, although the national guard is not Ukrainian know-how, did we eat the police from Medvedev? Ate. Our National is just OUR Guard and our National Guard, it will be better than all the other national guards, because this is the Russian Guard. The National Guardsman, who should be the face of the Russian army, must meet, escort, participate, demonstrate and win with the best results, combine the mobility of the Airborne Forces, the power of motorized riflemen and artillery, the Cherry Blade RKhzshnmkov, and the cavalry with wings. )))) something like this
        1. gergi
          gergi April 12 2016 07: 53
          +1
          And what will the people call them Natsik? It is already stuck. Filthy even sounds. Maybe you need to ask the employees? They live with it. So, they really do not like Natsik. They can give a tambourine and will be right.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 07: 55
            -4
            Quote: gergi
            And what will the people call them Natsik?

            Bydlyak will call them that!
            1. gergi
              gergi April 12 2016 08: 19
              +2
              In our country there are still a lot of cattle. I don’t want to be called that.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 April 12 2016 08: 27
                +3
                Quote: gergi In our country there are still a lot of cattle.

                Word, your abusive. Recently, similar phrases have appeared in the vocabulary of Kasyanovites, Navalnovts, and others especially gifted. In their opinion, everyone who does not support them, they are named by that word. I then agree, and I am them!
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                  1. avva2012
                    avva2012 April 12 2016 10: 21
                    0
                    Quote: gergi Wow! Like, be. Only about bydlyak I did not start, but the emperor (read above). You do not learn the rules of good form? He is a captain! Can spank! You are our principal. This is called a superior-lick in a jump at this very thing. The smell of trash, I'll go for a walk.

                    Go, really, take a walk. Is the leash long enough?
                    What hurt that bulk? It happens.
                    People like you, for some reason, like to use terms from the dictionary of BDSM lovers: "spank, boss (master), lick in a jump into this very thing." Well, as an apotheosis, it "smelled". You, sir, good, do not spread your sexual fantasies to others. People are mostly adults on the site. You will not shake hands, what will you do?
                    1. gergi
                      gergi April 12 2016 10: 43
                      +1
                      He who piled on me is just as alien as you, who successfully identified himself. With what I congratulate. On a leash did not go, unlike some. The age of skill is already long mature, with sex everything is in order, do not envy. Well, and as an apotheosis, don’t translate arrows, it doesn’t stink from me, not at all. I never esteemed flatterers, I did not caress their hands. I’ll be scared to survive, I won’t sleep at night, I will cry, on the contrary. I'm exhausted, believe? Have mercy, beastly! Read the fable about the hedgehog and bare ass.
                      1. avva2012
                        avva2012 April 12 2016 11: 03
                        -3
                        He who piled on me is just as alien as you, who successfully identified himself. With what I congratulate. On a leash did not go, unlike some. The age of skill is already long mature, with sex everything is in order, do not envy. Well, and as an apotheosis, don’t translate arrows, it doesn’t stink from me, not at all. I never esteemed flatterers, I did not caress their hands. I’ll be scared to survive, I won’t sleep at night, I will cry, on the contrary. I'm exhausted, believe? Have mercy, beastly! Read the fable about the hedgehog and bare ass.

                        You wanted to go for a walk. Here you go. To argue with people like you, it's sieve to wear water. And you’ll be fooled yourself, and you won’t get any sense. Love the fecal topic, love on. Good luck to you.
                      2. gergi
                        gergi April 12 2016 11: 50
                        0
                        Hey, don’t go away, dear. I forgot to put a minus, not an order. Water carrier in the east, a respected craft. I have not a word about feces. You talk more about them, my dear. Pokedova.
                      3. avva2012
                        avva2012 April 12 2016 12: 10
                        0
                        Quote: gergi Hey, don’t go away, dear.

                        Sadomaso, the words diminutive, do not suffer from the epileptic?
                      4. gergi
                        gergi April 12 2016 16: 09
                        -2
                        Oh, another doctor. Heal yourself, effigy. Do you understand what you said? Confused, sweetheart? Lost a thread? Lost it. This is my friend cretinism in its purest form. Please this one, which is an type of operator. He will remove me. You will remain, all of you are smooth and pleasant. Sick of such. For whom do you want to adjust for a small fraction.
                  2. gergi
                    gergi April 12 2016 16: 14
                    0
                    You are not capable of arguing, yes. To argue is to have arguments. You have a problem with that. There are no arguments, you go to deshovaya squabble. With thoughts too badly. Nobody managed to tell you about ideas, that's the trouble. Where to argue.
            2. Oleg Monarchist
              Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 10: 24
              0
              Quote: gergiThe smell of trash, I'll go for a walk.


              If you are sitting at the monitor and you feel an unpleasant smell, then walks will not help, better go wash laughing
              1. gergi
                gergi April 12 2016 10: 56
                0
                Emperors, monarchists. Ugh! Dreamers. All you can’t do.
                1. Oleg Monarchist
                  Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 11: 03
                  0
                  Quote: gergi Emperors, monarchists. Ugh! Dreamers. All you can’t do.


                  That is, you don’t go to wash in principle? For ideological reasons? I respect laughing
                2. gergi
                  gergi April 12 2016 11: 05
                  -3
                  And I do not respect you. Put a minus faster! Catch the buzz!
                3. Oleg Monarchist
                  Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 11: 20
                  +1
                  Why will I bet? You, child, have already set me up. Have some fun. It seems that the only joy left in your life.
                4. gergi
                  gergi April 12 2016 12: 17
                  +1
                  No, I didn’t put a minus either to you or to that which wants to be what it is. I am not likened. I have not been called a child for many decades, thanks for the flattery. The joy of life over the years has not lost, it's great, believe me. I’m on tulumbas your ratings and paper shoulder straps. They are only dear to those who did not wear real ones. Be healthy. Learn to understand people already. It’s worthless until old age like this.
                5. Oleg Monarchist
                  Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 12: 29
                  0
                  Quote: gergi No, I didn’t put a minus either to you or to that which wants to be what it is. I am not likened.


                  I did not put cons.
                  I have not been called a child for many decades, thanks for the flattery.


                  This is not flattery ... this is a diagnosis

                  The joy of life over the years has not lost, it's great, believe me.


                  The joy of life? Therefore, do you constantly resent everyone?

                  I’m on tulumbas your ratings and paper shoulder straps. They are only dear to those who did not wear real ones.


                  The site is not mine. And the user rating adopted here is not what I came up with.
                  What will you be in, in the real ones, so to speak? I doubt that this is Colonel General.

                  Be healthy


                  And you, do not get sick or cough.
                6. gergi
                  gergi April 12 2016 12: 36
                  -2
                  Not with my character as a general. I didn’t get it, alas. He has not been caught honoring. One of many.
                7. Oleg Monarchist
                  Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 12: 41
                  -1
                  Quote: gergi Not with my character as a general. I didn’t get it, alas. He has not been caught honoring. One of many.


                  So what rank are you?
                8. gergi
                  gergi April 12 2016 12: 48
                  +1
                  Well, why do you need my rank. I can tell the truth, I can lie. I do not want. What difference does it make, soldier I am.
                9. Oleg Monarchist
                  Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 12: 59
                  -1
                  Quote: gergi Well, why do you need my rank.


                  So after all, you here accuse everyone of "paper-like shoulder straps". Therefore, I wonder what titles you are

                  I can tell the truth, I can lie. I do not want


                  Do not want to tell the truth? Or lie? So don't lie, tell the truth

                  What difference does it make, soldier I am.


                  Big one. A soldier of what?
                10. gergi
                  gergi April 12 2016 13: 39
                  -2
                  I do not blame anyone for paperwork. No need to juggle, in a decent society for this they beat a candelabra in the face. A soldier of the Soviet army. It was like that, you believe it. To lie or not to lie, everyone decides for himself. Check is not possible, believe is not hunting. There are many with peacock feathers, ask them, they will sing and dance to you. Why are you so intensely interested? Aren't you alike? Or do you want to measure? Let's leave, I don’t like you.
                11. Oleg Monarchist
                  Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 13: 58
                  -1
                  Quote: gergi I do not blame anyone for paperwork. No need to juggle, in a decent society for this they beat a candelabra in the face.


                  What a "distortion" whose words "I have your ratings and paper shoulder straps on the tulumbas." Yours.

                  A soldier of the Soviet army. It was like that, you believe it.

                  Ahhh ... like you're such a stupid warrior of all those present? Served in CA? So I also served in the SA.

                  There are many with peacock feathers, ask them, they will sing and dance to you. Why are you so intensely interested? Aren't you alike? Or do you want to measure? Let's leave, I don’t like you.


                  I see "peacock feathers" mainly from representatives of "sovetskaya power", like we are awesome revolutionaries, we'll stir up the revolution ...

                  Only in the "revolution" can "bang" not only you personally (you may not care) but also your family. There will always be people poorer than you, who will be indignant at your bourgeoisie and want to squeeze out your apartment, car, dacha, along the way by shooting your family.

                  My dear, have you ever shot at people and they answered at you?
                12. IS-80_RVGK
                  IS-80_RVGK April 12 2016 14: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: Oleg Monarchist
                  Only in the "revolution" can "bang" not only you personally (you may not care) but also your family. There will always be people poorer than you, who will be indignant at your bourgeoisie and want to squeeze out your apartment, car, dacha, along the way by shooting your family.

                  Do you work out weak silver pieces or what do you get paid for there?
                13. Cat man null
                  Cat man null April 12 2016 14: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK
                  Quote: Oleg Monarchist
                  Only in the "revolution" can "bang" not only you personally (you may not care) but also your family. There will always be people poorer than you, who will be indignant at your bourgeoisie and want to squeeze out your apartment, car, dacha, along the way by shooting your family.

                  Do you work out weak silver pieces or what do you get paid for there?

                  Makar! And what is wrong? IMHO the person correctly stated everything, no?
                14. gergi
                  gergi April 12 2016 14: 40
                  0
                  And why did he write it. Ostap suffered? He was not asked about the revolution. The flight of a convex thought! He swore before me what rank I was, I did not say, he’ll kill everyone. Where is the logic? Mom, give me birth back! Fairy-tale dunce.
                15. Oleg Monarchist
                  Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 19: 49
                  -2
                  Quote: gergi And why did he write it. Ostap suffered? He was not asked about the revolution.


                  In fact, it is precisely here that the name of the unit and the unit itself are being discussed, which will precisely struggle with various revolutions - Red, Liberal or Jihadniuk, etc.

                  He swore before me what rank I was, I did not say, he’ll kill everyone.


                  I decided to ask after your remark that everything is here with "paper shoulder straps". I wanted to know about your non-paper ones. But now I see that you have Gergi, shoulder straps of the "paper" colonel-general. My "paper" will go from the "lieutenant colonel" inclusive.
                  Where did I say that "I will kill everyone" ...

                  Mom, give me back!


                  Your first bright thought for today.

                  Fairy-tale dunce


                  Is that your first and last name? I’m sorry. Probably not easy to live? laughing
              2. IS-80_RVGK
                IS-80_RVGK April 12 2016 14: 54
                +1
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Makar! And what is wrong? IMHO the person correctly stated everything, no?

                What is right? What envy, anger, greed, deceit are peculiar to people? Wow, what a discovery. Here the main abomination is that under the guise of caring for people, these corrupt ones primarily care about their wallet. Yes, they care so much that, on occasion, their lying humanity will not prevent you all from being destroyed in the meat grinder of the next war if it comes to protecting their capital. However, this is rather a small henchman on occasion, and they will let him under the knife without any hesitation.
              3. Oleg Monarchist
                Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 20: 06
                -2
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK What is right? What envy, anger, greed, deceit are peculiar to people? Wow, what a discovery. Here the main abomination is that under the guise of caring for people, these corrupt ones primarily care about their wallet. Yes, they care so much that, on occasion, their lying humanity will not prevent you all from being destroyed in the meat grinder of the next war if it comes to protecting their capital. However, this is rather a small henchman on occasion, and they will let him under the knife without any hesitation.


                Yes, you're straight, iksperd-analyte laughing

                What does it have to do with
                envy, anger, greed, deceit are peculiar to people

                If you want to look at the consequences of revolutions, riots and riots, look at the Ukrainians, as they say, you don't have to go far. Here are the revolutionaries, their leaders are just letting them go under the knives. Or do you already imagine yourself not as a petty revolutionary henchman, but as such a powerful "tail".
              4. IS-80_RVGK
                IS-80_RVGK April 12 2016 20: 45
                +1
                Quote: Oleg Monarchist
                Yes, you're straight, iksperd-analyte

                Let's go to you. An expert is not an expert, and your tricks will not work here.
                Quote: Oleg Monarchist
                What does it have to do with

                Despite the fact that without any revolutions.
                can "bang" not only you personally (you may not care) but also your family. There will always be people poorer than you, who will be indignant at your bourgeoisie and want to squeeze out your apartment, car, dacha, along the way by shooting your family.
                But when you start talking about "poorer", don't forget about "richer". I want to remind the paid propagandist that it was not the workers and peasants who organized the two world wars, but your dear capitalists and other rich people, the very ones you are defending so hard.
                Quote: Oleg Monarchist
                Here are the revolutionaries, their leaders under the knives just let.

                Thanks to the expert on revolutions, but we’ll figure it out without you who is what and why.

                Quote: Oleg Monarchist
                Want to look at the consequences of revolutions, riots and rebellions, look at the Ukrainians, as they say, do not go far.

                And let's go further and remember about England, France, Holland and finally the country, the standard of democracy and capitalism on the other side of the sea, and remember what these countries have in common. And then the paid propagandist, the monarchist will throw out his training manual and go for a new one, because this one will not help to hang noodles on your ears, but you still lack your imagination and intellect. laughing
        2. Oleg Monarchist
          Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 19: 31
          -4
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK Do you work out weak silver pieces or what do you get paid for there?


          Do you have this from personal experience? Go to work
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  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 11: 20
    0
    Quote: avva2012

    Word, your abusive. Recently, similar words have appeared in the vocabulary of Kasyanovites, Navalnovites, and other gifted

    And recently, and I used it here on a site back in 2012 and it belonged to personalities such as Kasyanov, Nemtsov and other shit.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 April 12 2016 11: 27
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov And recently, and I used it here on a site back in the 2012 year and it was related to personalities such as Kasyanov, Nemtsov and others

      Ah, is there a feeling of a jailer wink , that this very thing, not only on the site, has become more.
      1. gergi
        gergi April 12 2016 12: 29
        -1
        Weak to chastise the captain for profanity? You are our moralist. There, the emperor was already proud. And I, they say, can!
    2. gergi
      gergi April 12 2016 12: 20
      0
      Great you sang, blaarodny. Well Duc and Hiba you with a brush. I suppose you consider yourself to be serious uncles. You do something not so good. Not beautiful, to say the least.
  • gergi
    gergi April 12 2016 12: 07
    -1
    Now the captain has encouraged you, noticed and noted loyal chuyvstva. He removed my harmless comments. Threw a scarf on someone else's mouth. You are funny.
  • gergi
    gergi April 12 2016 16: 28
    0
    Coment is your master, Moder named Romanov deleted. Only you quoted it from a bizarre mind. One that WOW! You there with an anti-sniffer think of it better somehow. Do not tell people. Geniuses. And bydlyak, this is not my favorite word, but a moderator of Romanov. See above.
  • dauria
    dauria April 12 2016 09: 37
    +2
    In our country there are still a lot of cattle.


    In such cases, the mirror should be approached if there are "a lot"
    1. gergi
      gergi April 12 2016 10: 25
      -3
      Madam, are you from the Institute of Noble Maidens? There, of course, there is no such audience, probably. But on the street, near the grocery store, in some kind of godforsaken town, they still exist. Squatting, spitting seeds. These are realities, Madame. It is necessary to be closer to the people, and to condescend more often. My regards.
    2. gergi
      gergi April 12 2016 10: 55
      -1
      Madame, this koment makes sense to make you comfortable. Exclusively so that you can put a minus. And I will suffer terribly, and you are pleased. Two in one. For BDSM the most.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 11: 19
    -1
    Quote: gergi
    In our country there are still a lot of cattle

    I read what you wrote above
    Quote: gergi
    And what will the people call them Natsik? It is already stuck. Fucking even sounds

    Who are you, if you are ready to call the soldiers of your own country the National Guard or something else. Who are you?
    1. gergi
      gergi April 12 2016 12: 44
      +1
      I have never expressed such a thought. If you inattentively read, then re-read again. I’m not making excuses, this is just in case, but now everything will come together. I said that the NAME OF THE NATIONAL GUARD is hopelessly corrupted by the ukronatsiks. You can’t just call our guys. Why should I sculpt a hunchback? Grieved, just horror. And it was no good to humor at the expense of my son. I already regretted that he had recalled him. He really serves, officer, intelligence battalion. What's bad about it? I am proud of him, it was his choice. And did I call him that? Rave.
    2. gergi
      gergi April 12 2016 14: 01
      0
      Everything written below is true, but I came to the conclusion that in vain I am trying to explain something to YOU. You understood everything correctly but perverted everything. You, my friend a provocateur and a sharpie. You are not the emperor; you do not even pull on a footman. Bad little man. Wouldn't it be an hour?
  • gergi
    gergi April 12 2016 12: 03
    0
    And why did you, your Majesty, remove my comments, thereby interrupting the entire logical chain? Abuse of authority. Somehow it’s not worthy of a person of such a high rank. In vain, oh no wonder I do not like the monarchy. In my comments there wasn’t anything bad, but there were thoughts, personally YOU were unpleasant. Talking about freedom of speech with the monarch, not an appreciative occupation, but still?
  • sgazeev
    sgazeev April 12 2016 08: 01
    +1
    Quote: SSR
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Quote: Teberii
    No matter what they call


    As can be seen from the comments, even here, in VO- it is important what the guard will be called. Rosguard- quite an acceptable option.

    Yes, as you can see, not only in VO there are ukrofobes that have grown sober, although the national guard is not Ukrainian know-how, did we eat the police from Medvedev? Ate. Our National is just OUR Guard and our National Guard, it will be better than all the other national guards, because this is the Russian Guard. The National Guardsman, who should be the face of the Russian army, must meet, escort, participate, demonstrate and win with the best results, combine the mobility of the Airborne Forces, the power of motorized riflemen and artillery, the Cherry Blade RKhzshnmkov, and the cavalry with wings. )))) something like this

    Well, here we go, with the Pendosov NG, the kaklovs NG and what. We have our own heads on our shoulders. The National Guard of Russia is just that. And looking at someone is not our scale. The Rosguard resembles a stump, something like Rosmakalatura.
  • VIT101
    VIT101 April 12 2016 20: 51
    +3
    Quote: SSR
    ... Our National is just OUR Guard and our National Guard, it will be better than all the other national guards, because this is the Russian Guard. The National Guardsman must be the face of the Russian army, so to speak ...


    If this is not banter, then the desire to be holier than the pope. And further. In no way can the national guard be the face of the Russian army, since he has nothing to do with this army. These are purely police internal troops. And at the same time, according to estimates, the number of this nat. guards (approximately 400 thousand) close or even exceed the number of soldiers in this army. The essence of creating such a monster is incomprehensible.
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander April 12 2016 06: 54
    +20
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Rosguard- quite an acceptable option.


    And the guard in the troops is NOT Russian, is it? The guard, in our common understanding, is the troops that have ALREADY distinguished themselves on the battlefield. The guard in the West is completely different. To confuse two different concepts in Russia is unreasonable and not logical. Would leave "Internal wax" or "Siles of rapid response" any.
    1. VP
      VP April 12 2016 07: 26
      +4
      They are no longer entirely internal - it seems that their participation in operations abroad is possible.
    2. IS-80_RVGK
      IS-80_RVGK April 12 2016 09: 20
      -6
      Quote: Aleksander
      And the guard in the troops is NOT Russian, is it? The guard, in our common understanding, is the troops that have ALREADY distinguished themselves on the battlefield. The guard in the West is completely different. To confuse two different concepts in Russia is unreasonable and not logical. Would leave "Internal wax" or "Siles of rapid response" any.

      Oprichniki, archers, squad, life guard, SMERSH. Cho there is still of the great-power? laughing
      1. gergi
        gergi April 12 2016 16: 00
        0
        Of all the above, perhaps the Life Guards have compromised themselves. The rest are all quite worthy service people. Sovereigns.
        1. Bruss
          Bruss April 12 2016 16: 23
          +2
          And what exactly did the Life Guard compromise? To compromise - to spoil someone’s reputation, to expose someone or anything in an unseemly way; defame! Before the revolution existed, however!
          1. gergi
            gergi April 12 2016 20: 49
            0
            Palace coups. The killings of those to whom they swore, with whose hands they ate. Is this not enough?
  • Kibalchish
    Kibalchish April 12 2016 07: 46
    +2
    I also like the Rosguard better, otherwise the National Guard is now more associated with the executioners from the Square.
  • Finches
    Finches April 12 2016 06: 33
    +12
    We’ve got used to the police, we’ve got used to the military police, and we’ll get used to such a guard - although I personally am distraught from such innovations, even if with good intentions - I have the feeling that we will all overthrow the United States ...!
    1. demo
      demo April 12 2016 06: 44
      +15
      Not you alone.
      In fact, for the last twenty years, we have been trying with enviable persistence to copy foreign "experience", or rather to try to transplant someone else's mentality onto Russian soil.
      Recall: Secretary of State, Vice President.
      Then the police. Now the National Guard.
      I have never been against the rational use of the positive experience available in the world.
      But somehow we all copy, without regard to our national, without the necessary transformation "for ourselves."
      1. grawizapa
        grawizapa April 12 2016 09: 14
        0
        Do not forget the exam ...
  • Mangel olys
    Mangel olys April 12 2016 07: 04
    +3
    Quote: Teberii
    It doesn’t matter what they call the main thing to solve the tasks.

    As they call, it will float. laughing
  • warriordima
    warriordima April 12 2016 07: 05
    +5
    Well, at least so, the rumor doesn’t hurt., At least somehow the people heard and thanks.))
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    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 12 2016 07: 33
      +12
      Quote: rom8726
      well, at least now there will be something to crush people when people take to the streets from the fact that there is nothing to eat

      Is that all fool read carefully what the Russian Guard is intended for, and then plump into a puddle, and if you have nothing to eat, then go to work, and not sit out on the sofa.
      1. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx April 12 2016 07: 58
        +2
        2. The main tasks of the Rosguards are:
        1) participation, jointly with the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation, in the protection of public order, ensuring public safety and the state of emergency;

        and you yourself read?:) - and where will the army come, or will they be- Just the guard? - And BB- the Russian guard? As it cuts a bit = not hearing but the brain ...
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky April 12 2016 09: 26
          +4
          Quote: Leshy74
          2. The main tasks of the Russian Guard are: 1) to participate, together with the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation, in protecting public order, ensuring public safety and the state of emergency; but have you read it yourself? - And VV- the Russian guard? As it cuts a bit = not hearing but the brain ...

          Here's a visual - an approximate alignment
          1. Nehist
            Nehist April 12 2016 09: 54
            -2
            About how and the number of MOs is less, which indicates that the internal reprisitive apparatus is growing !!!
            1. Oleg Monarchist
              Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 10: 34
              0
              Quote: NehistAbout how and the number of MOs is less, which indicates that the internal reprisitive apparatus is growing !!!


              Comrade Warrant Officer, would you even buy a dictionary for yourself ... or something. By the way, the army also belongs to the repressive apparatus.
              1. Nehist
                Nehist April 12 2016 10: 37
                0
                Army to repressive? What are you !!! Well, if the repression is carried out outside the country, then yes of course. When a person has nothing to argue, he begins to refer to grammar with spelling ....
                1. Oleg Monarchist
                  Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 10: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: Nehist Army to repressive? What are you !!! Well, if the repression is carried out outside the country, then yes of course.


                  The army, police, special services - all this is the repressive apparatus of ANY state.

                  When a person has nothing to argue, he begins to refer to grammar with spelling ....


                  Why so "force" the language ...
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 07: 38
      +11
      Quote: rom8726
      well, at least now there will be something to crush people when people take to the streets from the fact that there is nothing to eat

      Swell with hunger? And on the Internet and the computer is enough. You probably have it from a lack of black caviar in your stomach. Well, nothing, most live without it, and you won’t die.
    3. Dembel77
      Dembel77 April 12 2016 07: 45
      +1
      It's all lyrics. As it will be written in the Law, so it will be called. Nothing will change from the name. Other questions need to be asked. For what ..., why so ..., who needs it ..., and the main question - how much will it cost us? You can even put the question like this - do we need it? I would like to get answers to these questions from our respected authorities, and not from "pseudo-specialists" in state-building, of which there are a lot of people on the Internet (like Barboski's fleas). Questions need to be asked not convenient, but correct and necessary, i.e. those - to which, for some reason, usually, the authorities do not want to give answers!
      1. kot-pskov
        kot-pskov April 12 2016 12: 34
        0
        There is such an opinion


        I don’t know how much it’s true, but there is something in it .. At least the author presents it beautifully, in contrast to opponents (so to speak) from liberal sources (for the sake of interest I tried to watch it on Radio Liberty). smile
        But as for the "cost of the issue", we most likely will not find out ...
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null April 12 2016 12: 54
          0
          Quote: kot-pskov
          There is such an opinion

          - yeah .. and then the video for 40 minutes .. you kindly ..

          In the video I found the only justification phrase: "Putin created the National Guard because he knows that the top police have already betrayed him."

          Well, it's just impossible to come up with more nonsense fellow

          The only thing that I learned from this video is that I will never watch "Cognitive TV" No.
      2. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN April 12 2016 13: 04
        +3
        Quote: Dembel 77
        This is all the lyrics. As they write in the Law, it will be called. From the name, nothing will change. Other questions need to be asked. Why ... why so ... who needs it ... and the main question is how much will it cost us? You can even ask the question like that - do we need it? I would like to receive answers to these questions from our respected authorities,

        You ask very good questions. I also want to hear answers to them. I personally don’t like the name "national guard". Sorry, but the name is spoiled by banderlog. In the end, you can come up with something of your own, and not copy it after cowboys and velikoukrov.
        In my opinion, these units will be directly subordinate to the president. Why? There is no trust in the General Staff, generals ...? Then this is the personal guard, praetorians, oprichnina. Again, why? Elections, riots, stable and loyal formations are needed? Will the tasks be duplicated? in parallel with explosives, border guards, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB?
        For some reason I don’t believe in universal tools. The tool should be specialized, sharpened for a specific task.
        And, if the task is like a hammer ... hammer any nails, then maybe.
        Maybe I'm wrong. Let's live, see.
  • gergi
    gergi April 12 2016 07: 46
    +3
    The name is very important. The National Guard is washed by the kaklams forever. I have a son of a speck, so he just got mad at such a name. Rosguard is a completely different matter. For employees, it’s not without a difference such things. They are proud of it.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 07: 57
      -5
      Quote: gergi
      I have a son of a speck, so he just got mad at such a name.

      And here is the daughter of an officer.
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        1. Nehist
          Nehist April 12 2016 09: 56
          -3
          Don’t pay attention to him! I have long understood that this character will be happy to jump from the news if they rename the sun-faced Tsar of All Russia
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 11: 26
            +1
            Quote: Nehist
            I! For a long time I realized that this character will be happy to jump from the news if the sun is changed to the tsar of all Russia

            Well, I can’t, like you, jump out of my underpants and applaud when I learn that Kasyanov wants to become president. And Putin, by definition, cannot be Tsar
            I know one thing from Sakhalin, he calls himself a patriot, though he dreams of moving to the EU. All the best to you.
            1. Nehist
              Nehist April 12 2016 11: 33
              +1
              Are you in the EU? So good riddance! You have recently turned into a noble troll and boor in your comments!
  • Poppy
    Poppy April 12 2016 09: 46
    +1
    it's important
    but you had to think about the name in advance
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich April 12 2016 06: 27
    +1
    The National Guard of the Russian Federation is invited to call Rosgvardia
    what all the same, somehow it is not so ... then someone suggested - "People's Guard" -will sound better ... well, or "People's Guard of Russia" -NGR ...
    1. Mangel olys
      Mangel olys April 12 2016 07: 08
      -6
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      The National Guard of the Russian Federation is invited to call Rosgvardia
      what all the same, somehow it is not so ... then someone suggested - "People's Guard" -will sound better ... well, or "People's Guard of Russia" -NGR ...

      The guard cannot be "people's" if it is planned to fight with its own people.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 07: 13
        +2
        Quote: Mangel Olys
        The guard cannot be "people's" if it is planned to fight with its own people.

        Is there a plan for warriors with their people? Stop smoking plan!
        1. Mangel olys
          Mangel olys April 12 2016 08: 26
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Mangel Olys
          The guard cannot be "people's" if it is planned to fight with its own people.

          Is there a plan for warriors with their people? Stop smoking plan!

          Very "witty". Stop floating in the clouds of utopia, have the courage to think soberly and reasonably.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 April 12 2016 08: 31
            -1
            Quote: Mangel Alys Stop hovering in the clouds of utopia, have the courage to think soberly and reason sensibly.

            Do you think our government is anti-people? And what kind of "folk" do you think? Apparently in the USA, Canada, Luxembourg? Just don’t tell me that she was in the USSR. There is no this country.
            1. Mangel olys
              Mangel olys April 12 2016 08: 36
              +1
              Quote: avva2012

              Do you think our government is anti-people? And what kind of "folk" do you think? Apparently in the USA, Canada, Luxembourg? Just don’t tell me that she was in the USSR. There is no this country.

              It may not be for you. And I was born and lived in it, she was and WILL. Time will tell.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 April 12 2016 08: 46
                +1
                Quote: Mangel Alys It may not be for you. And I was born and lived in it, she was and WILL. Time will tell.

                Dear, these are all words. Paper, everything will endure.
                And, to say, now that the Guard will fight with its people, this is just a statement against the people. Now, in the West and in our country, in the bulk, the squeal has risen. Think, if you like the USSR, but they don’t, then maybe they just screech for good reason? Can feel, not only something
                that, and in some places, but real changes in the country are not in their favor.
                1. Mangel olys
                  Mangel olys April 12 2016 10: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: avva2012
                  and real changes in the country are not in their favor.

                  What changes do you mean, dear? That our old people carelessly live on a tiny pension? Raising pensions to a decent level - once. Free decent health care - where is it? These are two: a decent wage for the bulk of people is not there. These are three. What is there to chew on the obvious. You have to live in the real world, and not argue at your desk: "What a" bright-faced "fellow, he observes safety precautions, thinks through everything two steps ahead and keeps his nose in the wind!"
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 11: 28
                    +1
                    Quote: Mangel Olys
                    What changes, dear, do you mean? That we have old people living carefree on a tiny pension? Raising pensions to a decent level - times. Decent free medical care - where is it?

                    And more recently, people like him screamed at the imposition of sanctions. We are ready to tighten our belts. And as if he could afford it, it started.
                    1. Mangel olys
                      Mangel olys April 12 2016 11: 40
                      +1
                      Why are you so directly losing your temper, uncomfortable truth? Understand. And specifically nothing to cover, I sympathize.
                  2. avva2012
                    avva2012 April 12 2016 11: 41
                    -1
                    Quote: Mangel Alys That we have old people living carefree on a tiny pension? Raising pensions to a decent level - times. Decent free medical care - where is it?

                    You live in a country in which industry has been destroyed during the 90 years and how many millions of people have been destroyed. Are you a naive person or pretending to be? Yes, and what alternative? Old people and honey. service how much can you hide behind? Who, in your opinion, should come to power, tell me.
                    1. Mangel olys
                      Mangel olys April 12 2016 11: 58
                      +2
                      Quote: avva2012

                      You live in a country in which industry has been destroyed during the 90 years and how many millions of people have been destroyed. Old people and honey. service how much can you hide behind? Who, in your opinion, should come to power, tell me.

                      So you decide in the end. These are your words:
                      Do you think our government is anti-people?
                      Why would the authorities destroy what the people built? About the elderly and honey. service - you yourself, as a doctor, you’re probably sitting at the reception, what’s the heart already hardened, looking at the poor, sick old people who have no money for normal medicines? Who built you a country, educated. It is dishonorable, not humanly ...
                      1. avva2012
                        avva2012 April 12 2016 12: 17
                        0
                        Quote: Mangel Alys Why would the authorities destroy what the people built?

                        Do not cast a shadow over the wattle fence. Do we still have the power of EBN? With whom did everything collapse? Then power, now power.
                        It is dishonorable, not humanly ...

                        You, don't tell me about decency. There are few doctors left. And those who stayed on a budget, for the most part, love their work. I asked you, "Who, in your opinion, should come to power, tell me?", And you famously avoided answering, for decency you started talking. This is ugly, in my opinion.
                      2. Mangel olys
                        Mangel olys April 12 2016 12: 50
                        +2
                        Quote: avva2012

                        Do not cast a shadow over the wattle fence. Do we still have the power of EBN? With whom did everything collapse? Then power, now power.

                        You, do not tell me about decency. There are few doctors left.

                        To whom did EBN transfer power, not to HIM, a like-minded person? I wouldn't give it to someone else. As for the doctors, do you mean there are no ORDERAL ones left? And those that, "newly minted", are infected with a business virus that prevails over decency, humanity and the Hippocratic oath? Do you mean that? And regarding the main question for you, who should be in power, I want to upset you - not the oligarchs and their six, but who - guess yourself.
                      3. avva2012
                        avva2012 April 13 2016 03: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Mangel Alys As for the doctors, do you mean there are no ORDERAL ones left? And those that, "newly minted", are infected with a business virus that prevails over decency, humanity and the Hippocratic oath? Do you mean that?

                        not the oligarchs and their six, but who - guess for yourself.

                        Everything is clear with you. And, first, your comments, interested. I won’t bother anymore, I hope you, me, too.
          2. Oleg Monarchist
            Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 10: 44
            0
            Quote: Mangel Alys It may not be for you. And I was born and lived in it, she was and WILL. Time will tell.


            And in Novocherkassk, in 1962, which army and with what people were at war?
            1. Mangel olys
              Mangel olys April 12 2016 11: 00
              0
              And in 1905 which army and with what people were at war?
              1. Oleg Monarchist
                Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 11: 17
                0
                So naturally, if a soldier starts shooting at a soldier, then the soldiers respectively shoot back.

                But what's the difference? And the difference is that the sovets' comrades are very fond of "head over heels" and claim that this was impossible in the USSR. Do not tell me what they did with the saboteurs during the Great Patriotic War ... They were shot.
                And what did the tsarist government do with saboteurs at the same Putilov factory during the Russo-Japanese War and World War I ... They didn’t even shoot anyone.
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 11: 29
                +1
                Quote: Mangel Olys
                And in 1905 which army and with what people were at war?

                905, attempted coup d'etat.
                962, soldiers of the USSR, who were shot? Those who demanded to provide food. Hypocrites rotten
          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 11: 27
            0
            Quote: Mangel Olys
            . And I was born and lived in it, she was and WILL.

            Well, it’s not bad to dream, it’s bad not to dream lol
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 11: 26
        0
        Quote: Mangel Olys
        Stop hovering in the clouds of utopia, have the courage to think soberly and reason sensibly.

        Sorry I can’t, I'm not a drinker.
        1. Mangel olys
          Mangel olys April 12 2016 11: 32
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov

          Sorry I can’t, I'm not a drinker.

          We figured it out, but what about the other? wink
  • mamont5
    mamont5 April 12 2016 07: 46
    +2
    Another "western" troll has emerged.
  • SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 April 12 2016 08: 19
    +1
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    all the same, somehow it is not so ... then someone suggested - "People's Guard" -will sound better.

    I confess, this is my idea, but she did not find wide support:
    SRC P-15 SU Yesterday, 11:50
    "And if you call: the People's Guard - is it not an option? If this structure is created for the good of the people (and I hope that this is so), then it should be named accordingly."
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 06: 28
    +4
    The National Guard of the Russian Federation is invited to call Rosgvardia
    I don’t understand, the author of the project is Solomin Igor Valerievich, did I understand correctly? And who is that anyway ???
    There is a decree and further conversation about nothing. Personal PR, and why.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 12 2016 06: 35
      +4
      Solomin Igor Valerievich


      smile a sparring partner in judo of a famous person.
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet April 12 2016 06: 31
    +16
    September 2 is the Day of the Russian Guard. This holiday was established on December 22, 2000 by decree of the President of Russia Vladimir Putin in connection with the 300th anniversary of the Russian guard. This refers to the guards of the Russian Army. Now they propose to call the Rosguard a completely different structure, not related to the army. request What kind of confusion does it turn out - two guards with the same name?
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec April 12 2016 06: 35
    +3
    You can immediately rename the NKVD! laughing
    1. demo
      demo April 12 2016 06: 47
      +4
      Better right away in the Secret Order or in the Oprichnina.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 12 2016 06: 55
      +2
      Quote: dchegrinec
      You can immediately rename the NKVD! laughing

      GPU ... detachment detachment ...
    3. sherp2015
      sherp2015 April 12 2016 12: 23
      -1
      Quote: dchegrinec
      You can immediately rename the NKVD!

      Quote: demo
      Better right away in the Secret Order or in the Oprichnina.


      Rename more, wait ...
  • fa2998
    fa2998 April 12 2016 06: 36
    +11
    I still don’t understand what the name of the Internal Troops doesn’t suit? He himself served in the VV. The Russian Guard is the Russian Guard. And those army units (AF) that previously won the guard names are they that are not Russian ?? there’s nothing to do, how to rename it?! Or they have contracted an infection from Ukraine and the USA, there is a national guard around! stop laughing hi
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 12 2016 06: 40
      +3
      Internal Troops are not satisfied?


      The political moment ... there must be a structure directly subordinate to the president ... it’s true it’s not clear why they are creating it now ... is it that something bad is expected.
  • V.ic
    V.ic April 12 2016 06: 37
    +7
    National Guard, so be it! And then how - in the States is there and we do not? Militia = police ... Guard = National Guard ... What else to invent something that "they" have there, but we "here" do not?
    1. demo
      demo April 12 2016 06: 50
      +5
      Attempts to transplant members of the orchestra usually do not lead to an improvement in sound.
      But it seems to me that behind the obviously resonant action, under the name - the creation of a new power structure, other goals, tasks, and, most importantly, completely different reasons are hidden than those that are said out loud.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null April 12 2016 13: 01
        0
        Quote: demo
        Attempts to transplant members of the orchestra usually do not lead to an improvement in sound

        - and reluctance (or inability) to think with your head - leads precisely to such .. conclusions laughing
        - the fact that at the same time the same OMON is subordinated to the Center - it’s so, a small trifle, yes ..
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 12 2016 06: 57
      +4
      Quote: V.ic
      Here's what else to invent something that "they" have there, but we "here" do not?

      sheriffs ...
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag April 12 2016 07: 03
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        sheriffs ...

        National Security Agency
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain April 12 2016 07: 36
          +9
          Quote: sa-ag
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          sheriffs ...

          National Security Agency

          Well, yes there is already an agent for this office-Leha Nikolaev. fellow
      2. IS-80_RVGK
        IS-80_RVGK April 12 2016 09: 41
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        sheriffs ...

        Reinzyry.
  • populist
    populist April 12 2016 06: 54
    +10
    The title "guard" must be earned in battles.
    This has been the custom of centuries past.
    The term National Guard is unsuccessful and apes. Rosguard is also not much more successful.
    Is the imagination of advisers so meager?
    1. Bruss
      Bruss April 12 2016 12: 35
      0
      Of such pokon centuries?
      1. populist
        populist April 12 2016 22: 07
        +1
        Bruss
        Of such pokon centuries?

        The first Russian guardsman is considered to be Sergey Leontyevich Bukhvostov, the first to enroll in the amusing in 1683.

        In 1692, the amusing ones were reduced to the 3rd Moscow Elective Regiment under the leadership of A. M. Golovin (already divided into two regiments: Preobrazhensky and Semenovsky). In 1700, both of these regiments became known as Life Guards.
        1. Bruss
          Bruss April 13 2016 09: 50
          0
          This is from wikipedia. I also read this, so I asked the question - from time immemorial, the title of "guard" had to be earned in battle ?!
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null April 12 2016 12: 39
      0
      Quote: populist
      So it happened of pokon centuries

      Quote: bruss
      Of such pokon centuries?

      Quote: populist
      The term National Guard is unsuccessful and monkeys

      monkeys have already taken offense at you ... already very offended

      Quote: populist
      Rosguard too not much more successful

      - not much - together, (censorship !!)

      Narodnik, change your nickname .. or learn to read and write already.

      He can’t connect two words in Russian, but he crawls with teachings:

      Quote: populist
      Really so meager fantasy among advisers

      There are no words, except obscene ..
      1. populist
        populist April 12 2016 22: 31
        0
        Cat man null
        monkeys have already taken offense at you ... already very offended

        They only need to show a banana ...
        Narodnik, change your nickname .. or learn to read and write already.

        Once learning, it is necessary to work, to forge swords.
        He can’t connect two words in Russian, but he crawls with teachings:

        For that I see the point well.
        Why don’t you change the nickname Cat Man Null to Russian?
        Quote: populist
        Really so meager fantasy among advisers
        Cat man null
        There are no words, except obscene ..

        Yes, a long time ago...
  • avva2012
    avva2012 April 12 2016 06: 55
    +4
    The name, of course, is important, but what about the gist?
    At different times, military formations subordinated to the head of state personally had different functions. For example, the Praetorians. Personal protection of Caesar and all state. apparatus of ancient Rome. As I recall, the troops were forbidden to enter Rome, therefore, a kind of BB was formed. In Russia, under Ivan the Terrible, the oprichnina performed the function of an armed force that fought against "parochialism", that is, with the noble freemen. A slightly different function turns out. At the time of Peter the Great, the "amusing regiments", although they were engaged in the protection of the Emperor at first, were, in general, the units on the basis of which an army of a new type was created.
    What is happening now is not clear. Rather, I want to hope, but ...
    In any case, the structure is not similar to the personal protection of the President. Why planes, tanks, guns? In my opinion, at least call her, if, hopes for but ... come true, she will be called the Guard. If not, then be it, even if it’s national, even national, everything is one.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag April 12 2016 07: 05
      +2
      Quote: avva2012
      In any case, the structure is not similar to the personal protection of the President. Why planes, tanks, guns?

      Personal army, usually this appears when fears for personal power begin
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 12 2016 07: 12
        +4
        Quote: sa-ag

        Personal army, usually this appears when fears for personal power begin

        Putin got scared and changed his name from fear wassat
      2. avva2012
        avva2012 April 12 2016 08: 14
        0
        Quote: sa-ag Personal army, usually this appears when fears for personal power begin

        That is, you agree that such a structure cannot be a "personal army".
        Thanks, supported.
      3. your1970
        your1970 April 12 2016 19: 11
        0
        sa-ag
        If it becomes so bad that he needs cannons, tanks, planes, then he can be ordered as the Supreme Army, and if the ordinary army refuses to obey such an order, then she will have to arrange a military coup, which will succeed due to the large number / armament and no Rosguard it won’t help (there isn’t enough strength). If someone doubts that the army will shoot at the citizens - it will be, it was already in the 20 century - for example, in the 1993., the main thing is that the order be given. The tanks arrived, shot at the White House and everything went its way succession.A e If the orders are not executed, then no power structure will save. Examples?
        Yes, as much as you like - the country of 404, the USSR (there were 18,7 million communists. People, which accounted for 9,5% of the total adult population of the USSR), the Provisional Government, the Russian Empire ("The Division of His Imperial Majesty the Convoy, currently located in Tsarskoye Selo, expresses his desire comply with the requirements of the Provisional Government, elected by the State Duma and chaired by M.V. Rodzianko, and undertakes to comply with all requirements from the government aimed at protecting the royal family and maintaining order in Ana and parts of the army. "The document is dated March 3 1917 g.- private the convoy of the king, where all the children were royal godchildren - 3 of the day he waited just in case and flipped over) ...
        Many such states were in history, something breaks in them and no super-duper security structures help - to no purpose ...

        That is why I am sure that it is being created exactly for the stated purpose - the fight against terrorism, which is on our doorstep .. from fresh - Volgograd a week ago (where they got the group, an attempt to break into the police department in the Stavropol Territory ..
  • Pitot
    Pitot April 12 2016 06: 58
    +1
    And it seems to me that this has been done in order to prevent a coup. And absolutely right. That is, even if (God forbid) somehow be able to isolate the GDP, then this structure directly subordinate to it will do everything to prevent actions directed against the head of state and the state itself.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag April 12 2016 07: 06
      -5
      Quote: Pitot
      That is, even if (God forbid) somehow be able to isolate the GDP, then this structure directly subordinate to it will do everything to prevent actions directed against the head of state and the state itself.

      And what will this structure do against nature?
  • Armored optimist
    Armored optimist April 12 2016 07: 19
    -1
    Strongly for!
  • Hyperboreas
    Hyperboreas April 12 2016 07: 21
    +6
    And what, in principle, did not suit BB?
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 12 2016 07: 23
    0
    Who, like me, likes RosGuard more! Firstly, we Russians are not just a nation, Russians are a state of mind! Secondly, a very original name, this name is not to be confused by anyone.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 12 2016 07: 42
      +9
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Who, like me, likes RosGuard more!

      But what about the army guard? Call Arm Guard? They may think so - the Armenian Guard. laughing If there is a Rosguard (Russian Guard), then whose is it just a guard? what In general, the confusion is continuous, and the name is clearly unsuccessful, it would be better to leave BB with the planned merger and reassignment.
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag April 12 2016 07: 56
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        it would be better to leave BB with the planned unification and reassignment.

        Initially, something like that was conceived when Zolotov - the head of the personal guard was put at the head of the VV, but you see either legislative restrictions, or resource, or mistrust became the reason for the creation of the structure, judging by the list of tasks in the article, figuratively speaking "in each hole plug ", i.e. she can climb everywhere and is armed like an army
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 12 2016 07: 25
    -1
    In my opinion, if not only the essence of the creation, but also the name of the new structure were initially thought out, there would be much less negativity around the topic. With two hands BEHIND.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 12 2016 07: 33
    0
    Quote: avva2012
    What is happening now is not clear. Rather, I want to hope, but ...
    In any case, the structure is not similar to the personal protection of the President. Why planes, tanks, guns? In my opinion, at least call her, if, hopes for but ... come true, she will be called the Guard. If not, then be it, even if it’s national, even national, everything is one.

    Tasks of the National Guard of the Russian Federation

    Participation together with the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation in the protection of public order, ensuring public safety and the state of emergency
    Participation in the fight against terrorism and in ensuring the legal regime counterterrorism operation
    Participation in the fight against extremism
    Participation in territorial defense Russian Federation
    Participation in the protection of important state facilities and special cargo
    Rendering assistance to border authorities Federal Security Service in the protection of the state border of the Russian Federation
    Implementation of federal state control (supervision) over compliance with the legislation of the Russian Federation in the field of arms trafficking and in the field of private security activities, as well as the implementation of private security

    How without armor, for example with terrorists? He is with an RPG, and you are with a megaphone, albeit in a bronic.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN April 12 2016 13: 23
      +1
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Quote: avva2012
      What is happening now is not clear. Rather, I want to hope, but ...
      In any case, the structure is not similar to the personal protection of the President. Why planes, tanks, guns? In my opinion, at least call her, if, hopes for but ... come true, she will be called the Guard. If not, then be it, even if it’s national, even national, everything is one.

      Tasks of the National Guard of the Russian Federation

      Participation together with the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation in the protection of public order, ensuring public safety and the state of emergency
      Participation in the fight against terrorism and in ensuring the legal regime counterterrorism operation
      Participation in the fight against extremism
      Participation in territorial defense Russian Federation
      Participation in the protection of important state facilities and special cargo
      Rendering assistance to border authorities Federal Security Service in the protection of the state border of the Russian Federation
      Implementation of federal state control (supervision) over compliance with the legislation of the Russian Federation in the field of arms trafficking and in the field of private security activities, as well as the implementation of private security

      How without armor, for example with terrorists? He is with an RPG, and you are with a megaphone, albeit in a bronic.

      It is very similar to what the Cossacks were doing under the tsar. Well, of course, taking into account modern realities. It is difficult to call new formations Cossacks, hereditary buzz will. Although they could recall the ancient impulse to "run into the Cossacks" ... So they are trying to create an army where they can apply different nationalities.
      And why not just call the Guard? Briefly and clearly.
  • BULB TARAS
    BULB TARAS April 12 2016 07: 37
    +2
    Well, in Russia it would be possible to consider the Guard as follows:

    "Old Guard" (Tsarskaya aka White) You can restore (assign to modern units) all the Guards Regiments of Tsarist Russia with their great history.

    "Red Guard" (Soviet) Is still in the RF Armed Forces

    Save all regalia signs and banners, the history of units.

    "New Guard" (Russian today, former VV)



    IMHO Well, they would have reconciled the "White" and "Red" Guards and their descendants.
  • Million
    Million April 12 2016 07: 40
    +6
    Somehow everything is done quickly in our country, not thought out. Yesterday they called it that way today. That’s more serious.
  • dv_generalov
    dv_generalov April 12 2016 07: 53
    +4
    Everything new is well forgotten old. The structure resembles the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the NKVD at the time of the division of Khrushchev into 2 departments. I can’t say that the NKVD performed its functions poorly, then it was a political game. Now we are on the verge of high risks of internal conflicts and technological problems associated with the deterioration of fixed assets of the state. My opinion; creating the structure is a little late, but this is not a solution, it is a tool. It is urgent to improve the economic management model. We are a self-sufficient country. We don’t need to close, but we need to improve our own markets and invest the stabilization fund in the development of science, production, personnel training, and the school development of the younger generation. From this, domestic policy is built, then there are fewer risks.
  • Des10
    Des10 April 12 2016 07: 54
    +2
    Let it be the National Guard.
    Then the question is - the word "national" - what's the point? What nation (nationality smile )? Is there a definition for this in the Russian Federation - Legislative, how - the Soviet people?
    1. Des10
      Des10 April 12 2016 10: 06
      0
      And this is in a very multinational state.
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    3. Bruss
      Bruss April 12 2016 10: 19
      +1
      A nation (not a nationality) is a political community of citizens of a certain state and an ethnic community (a form of existence of one or several ethnoses living together) with a single language and self-awareness.
      Then everything falls into place!
      1. Des10
        Des10 April 12 2016 10: 42
        +1
        You - thank you smile , another thing is that the practice of a single language and self-awareness is lame. Well, in the Russian Federation’s docks, there’s no nation.
        1. Bruss
          Bruss April 12 2016 10: 48
          0
          The main thing here, as it seems to me, is "the form of existence of one or several ethnic groups living together", of which we have a great many! And about the language, tell me honestly - have you ever had cases when you were not understood somewhere? wink
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  • ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 April 12 2016 07: 54
    -2
    The Rosguard will be called the federal ministry, and this structure will be managed by the national guard. (See tasks)
  • mihasik
    mihasik April 12 2016 08: 06
    +3
    Public concerns about this led to the fact that the short name of the National Guard of Russia was proposed to be used in the following form: Rosguard.

    Laughed in the morning).
    Another renaming of "police to police"? And if the potheads of their Natsiks call "Rosgvardia", what will our public do?) After all, the puppies have already proposed to rename Ukraine to Russia).
  • Engineer
    Engineer April 12 2016 08: 13
    +4
    What about the KGB? Yeltsin severely dealt with this structure, because even he fell under his jurisdiction, because the Ministry of Internal Affairs did not even come close to comparing with the KGB in terms of authority. No, it’s necessary to tear everything from Amers: departments, police, National Guard .. all the more so the neighbors added a very negative color to this phrase.
  • mihasik
    mihasik April 12 2016 08: 23
    +2
    Quote: Engineer
    What about the KGB?

    A three-letter phrase will bring fear, heartburn and phantom pains to the liberal part of society, including those sitting at the trough!) Can this be mocked in our democratic society?) You sho?))
  • Winter cherry
    Winter cherry April 12 2016 08: 24
    +2
    As a result, simply the "guard" will remain. In general, the people themselves will then give the national name. ))
  • kolexxx
    kolexxx April 12 2016 08: 45
    +3
    Why, really, immediately by the White Guard and call them shy
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 April 12 2016 09: 39
      +4
      Why, really, immediately by the White Guard and call them shy
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      If we recall the past, then better than nat. you won’t find the gendarmerie. And to call the guards troops to fight against their own people, how not to twist, to disgrace the army and its glorious traditions.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 April 12 2016 09: 51
        -4
        Quote: guzik007 And call the guards troops to fight their own people

        You, apparently, have a very specific concept of the people.
        In my opinion, the Guard is created to combat the anti-people. With those who consider themselves Westerners, Democrats, and Liberals. And, with nationalists of all stripes and parasites who entered the power structures. This rot is not people, although it has two arms, two legs and looks like a person.
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 April 12 2016 10: 48
          -2
          The guard is created to combat the anti-people. With those who consider themselves Westerners, Democrats, and Liberals.
          --------------------------------------------------
          This is how at 17 priests, intellectuals were destroyed, and "every bourgeois holy ..." we also remember the gulags. We passed (thank God at school) we know. But this, no matter how you like it, is our people.
          --------------------------------
          And, with nationalists of all stripes and parasites who entered the power structures.
          -----------------------------
          "To the power structures"? What are you talking about, my friend? Are you suggesting that BBs fight the employer? Certainly, this is the pearl of the week !!!
  • ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 April 12 2016 08: 55
    +2
    Quote: Voha_krim
    Rosguard is a completely different matter. And the National Guard, at least kill, but reminded ukrov.

    Quote: kolexxx
    Why, really, immediately by the White Guard and call them shy

    Read point 9 - "troop command and control of the Russian Federation National Guard". So the National Guard remains so !!!
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  • VasiliyKhilkov
    VasiliyKhilkov April 12 2016 09: 03
    0
    There is a traditional name for this kind of troops - cavalry guards, cavalry guard corps - heavy guard cavalry. As an option :)
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 April 12 2016 09: 21
      +1
      Quote: VasiliyKhilkov There is a traditional name for this kind of troops - cavalry guards, cavalry guard corps - heavy guard cavalry. As an option :)

      It already happened, and again in Ukraine: "armored cavalry Buryat units." laughing
      1. VasiliyKhilkov
        VasiliyKhilkov April 12 2016 09: 53
        +1
        It was a little earlier. Since the beginning of the 18th century in Russia. And they were created for the same purpose with which it is supposed to use the modern guard. Did not know?
    2. mihasik
      mihasik April 12 2016 13: 33
      0
      Quote: VasiliyKhilkov
      There is a traditional name for this kind of troops - cavalry guards, cavalry guard corps - heavy guard cavalry. As an option :)

      cavalry guards, cavalry guard corps-uniquely true Russian names of military units!)))
      1. VasiliyKhilkov
        VasiliyKhilkov April 12 2016 22: 37
        0
        "Kavalergard" is no less a Russian word than "president". You better laugh at the word "president") Or were there troops with that name in some other country? In which? In any case, the two-century history of these Russian troops deserves both honor and glory.
        1. Bruss
          Bruss April 13 2016 09: 53
          0
          Your thought is incomprehensible! What did you mean!?
  • vkfriendly
    vkfriendly April 12 2016 09: 09
    +1
    Presidential Guard or Guard of St. George the Victorious. Doesn't sound too sick
    1. mihasik
      mihasik April 12 2016 09: 54
      +3
      Quote: vkfriendly
      Presidential Guard or Guard of St. George the Victorious. Doesn't sound too sick

      The Presidential Guard, to a point, because, direct submission to the President.
      Only now I realized: "I think why our budget is bursting and the Government does not cope with its official duties?" It turns out that there weren't enough renames! That was the problem! Right now we will rename everything and how will we live better than the pan-headed! Have we seen up there, have they seen enough of the Ukrainian media, or will they not "move away" from the 90s?
  • for
    for April 12 2016 09: 46
    0
    And it seems to me that in our multinational country it’s not worth calling the national one. If only a new nation appeared, the Russians, but this is a lie. And as for the guard, there is the old word squad. For example, the Russian squad, and then according to the merits of the Guards Russian squad, you can also advance the Guards squad.
  • From Samara
    From Samara April 12 2016 09: 49
    +3
    This is all clear, but why did they seize the SOBR from the Police? After all, the police have not yet been canceled ... Who will take the criminals now?
  • Bruss
    Bruss April 12 2016 09: 49
    +1
    Initially, the purpose of the guard is to protect the reigning persons! The Russian imperial guard didn’t fight so often!
    The first three regiments initially had barracks in Moscow - the name of the area still speaks of this! Preobrazhenskaya Square, Izmailovsky Park, Semenovskaya metro station, Devyataya company street, etc. Now a little different!
    It turns out that parts of the FSO are the Life Guards. The modern Guard of Russia has not been involved in the protection of senior management for a long time - it is the elite of the armed forces!
    And the created structure is presented as a defender of the constitutional system, law and order, which in itself does not exclude the right to be called "Guard" (guardia - protection, protection)!
    So it turns out - the Presidential Guard is the FSO, the National Guard - protecting the rule of law and the rule of law, the Russian Guard - protecting the country from an external enemy! No contradictions!
  • cedar
    cedar April 12 2016 09: 51
    +6
    Guard - the best troops! The ranks of the Guards were given for military exploits to units and ships, and this had to be DESIGNED!

    And what if you call it - Federal Guard troops !?

    Before the revolution, the guardians of the Russian Empire actively functioned.
    For example:
    “A county police guard is, first of all, a force in the hands of governors and district police officers to suppress riots and to stop robbery in provinces and counties, without resorting to the assistance of troops and without taking the latter from direct duties ...
    - Circular of the Ministry of the Interior, dated February 12, 1906.

    In our case...
    "The federal guard is, first of all, power in the hands of the head of state of the President of the Russian Federation" further in the text
    According to the Russian language dictionary Ozhegova GUARDIAN - The one who guards someone, anything, PROTECTION.

    Article 82 of Ch. 4 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    1. When taking office, the President of the Russian Federation takes the following oath to the people:
    "I swear, while exercising the powers of the President of the Russian Federation, to respect and safeguard the rights and freedoms of man and citizen, to observe and TO PROTECT the Constitution of the Russian Federation, to PROTECT the sovereignty and independence, security and integrity of the state, to faithfully serve the people. "
    2. The oath is taken in a solemn atmosphere in the presence of members of the Federation Council, deputies of the State Duma and judges of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation. "

    Thus, the Federal Guard can serve the PROTECTION: of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, sovereignty and independence, security and integrity of the state (i.e. the Russian Federation) and faithfully serves the people (i.e. the Russian nation)!
    Those. all that is required of the President, to whom he must be subordinate and be a true support in this matter!
    1. your1970
      your1970 April 12 2016 19: 25
      +2
      the people will call guards ...- but this is a trifle

      Huge plus for you

      Personally, I liked your option ("Federal Guard troops") - and it sounds good, and the ear does not cut, and with meaning, and tasks / goals are immediately clear (even by ear). If you also offer a good symbol / emblem, we will all vote here FOR...
      ..a then for three days the people have twisted the name in the language and nobody likes it
  • pts-m
    pts-m April 12 2016 10: 01
    +1
    Well, if the president has signed a law on the creation of this structure, he might call it that ... THE PRESIDENTIAL GUARD or THE PRESIDENT'S GUARD ,,,!
  • mihasik
    mihasik April 12 2016 10: 08
    +3
    Our authorities are already directly recognizing by their renaming that the history of the cultural development of the Russian state for them, I apologize, g..but compared with the West! Why does the West not rename everything to Russian meanings of words! Because we are flawed? So they try to instill this in us all the time! We, like a vacuum cleaner, draw all the world's garbage into our dialect, change habits, foundations, and names. We speak some kind of surzhik, not Russian! Pancake! What a continuous parrotism and debilism is happening. And this is already perceived as the norm. People argue as "perverted" and so "perverted". It remains to put the pots on your head like a shaneumerlik. Not for nothing "brothers".
  • imugn
    imugn April 12 2016 10: 10
    +1
    And I recall "Inhabited Island": "... O Battle Guard - blade of the law! ..."

    But seriously, the result is as follows: 1. renamed 2. reassigned
  • although
    although April 12 2016 10: 12
    -1
    Give the topic of voting, I am for "Guard" devil of all "state", "grew", "nat", if "BB" does not suit anyone. "federal troops", or "federal guards" are not bad either.
  • Bruss
    Bruss April 12 2016 10: 16
    0
    If we accept the definition of a nation (not a nationality) as a political community of citizens of a certain state and as an ethnic community (a form of existence of one or several ethnic groups living together) with a single language and self-awareness, then the name is normal!
  • Nehist
    Nehist April 12 2016 10: 22
    +1
    I wonder what their oath will be? Times direct submission
    1. Bruss
      Bruss April 12 2016 10: 24
      0
      I think the standard oath of the police! The struggle is supposed to be with the internal, mainly enemy!
      1. Nehist
        Nehist April 12 2016 10: 27
        +2
        Then, by definition, direct subordination to the head of state is not possible!
        1. Bruss
          Bruss April 12 2016 10: 29
          0
          On the ground, there was no talk of an additional oath yet! And there - we'll see! But is the Minister of Defense not directly subordinate to the president ???
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null April 12 2016 10: 59
            0
            Quote: bruss
            On the ground, there was no talk of an additional oath yet! And there - we'll see! But is the Minister of Defense not directly subordinate to the president ???

            In-in ..

            Quote: Nehist
            Then, by definition, direct subordination to the head of state is not possible!

            fool

            Impossible - together, by the way ..
    2. Oleg Monarchist
      Oleg Monarchist April 12 2016 11: 50
      +1
      Quote: Nehist I wonder what their oath will be? Times direct submission


      You have a photo of a warrant officer on your avatar, and not some "student-mower" that you are talking about nonsense. Units of the MTR, for example, are directly subordinate to the Chief of the General Staff, do you think that they personally swear allegiance to him?
  • dr. sem
    dr. sem April 12 2016 10: 33
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    Quote: gergi
    In our country there are still a lot of cattle. I don’t want to be called that.

    Itself, of course, is not cattle ... Praetorian go ... Blue blood ... Seven higher educations ... Yes, yes.
  • Menke
    Menke April 12 2016 10: 33
    +6
    I have read articles on this site for a long time, a lot of interesting things. But now I have registered to express my opinion. He himself served in the BB, a senior sergeant in the reserve. The creation of a military formation, in this case the National Guard, with a single command, with its own aircraft and armored vehicles, is good. Remember how during the anti-terrorist campaigns in the Caucasus, whoever was not thrown there, the army, the military, and the special forces of various departments (even the Federal Penitentiary Service), hence there were problems with interaction. At the moment, our country has many threats, both external, and internal, which in turn are initiated from the outside and are part of the former. This must be recognized and one must be ready for this. The army must be relieved of other functions, it must protect the people from external threats and in the conditions of modern requirements, be ready to carry out tasks, if required, anywhere in the world. And the created National Guard is needed to maintain internal order. Look, its functions include, among other things, territorial defense and assistance to border troops. So this is all correct and dictated by the time. The name is another matter. I don't see anything wrong with the name Internal Troops, or, as it was in the Russian Empire, the Internal Guard troops. I think the structural changes were necessary, but the name should be kept the same - BB. And the point is not even what shade the phrase "National Guard" creates for some, time will pass and all husks will disappear. We have already developed our own military traditions, including with regards to the guards units, which must be preserved. So let's rename the border troops in the next step to some "rangers" or the like. Why copy someone else's if we have our own history, our own traditions.
    1. Nehist
      Nehist April 12 2016 10: 43
      +1
      Well, about the Caucasus, it’s just understandable, the authorities could not decide to consider what was happening as a military operation or a police operation. In general, it is the army that is engaged in territorial defense that suddenly protects the territory of the state from external threats. And then NG? Changes were necessary in the organizational structure of explosives, but not in periimination and reassignment
      1. Menke
        Menke April 12 2016 11: 42
        +3
        If there was something not entirely clear with the first company (on both sides "firewood was cut", but still, the authorities were to blame for allowing this), then everything was clear to the second company, and it was not a police operation, but whatever the military, an operation to repel international terrorists who seized one of the regions of Russia and invaded another region of Russia. For such operations, explosives with their own armored vehicles and aviation are needed. And these troops should be trained in appropriate tactics, tactics of counteraction to the enemy waging a guerrilla war. And the army must learn to resist and defeat the high-tech modern regular armies of our "partners".
  • dr. sem
    dr. sem April 12 2016 10: 36
    -1
    Quote: PTS-m
    Well, if the president has signed a law on the creation of this structure, he might call it that ... THE PRESIDENTIAL GUARD or THE PRESIDENT'S GUARD ,,,!

    Excellent! "Presigward" or "Presiguard" ... Sounds proudly.
    Oh, seriously, why do you spoil it? A powerful punitive body has been created in the country. There is nothing to discuss.
    1. Nehist
      Nehist April 12 2016 10: 50
      0
      Short and capacious !!! Essentially Essential !!!
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null April 12 2016 12: 35
      +1
      Quote: dr. sem
      why do we spoil it? A powerful punitive body has been created in the country. There is nothing to discuss

      - and you seem to be afraid that it is you that he will "punish"
      - but I'm not afraid for some reason request
  • atamankko
    atamankko April 12 2016 10: 48
    +1
    Rosguard sounds better, but it would be nice to think about the name.
  • Bogdanov Artem
    Bogdanov Artem April 12 2016 10: 55
    +3
    Quote: vladimirZ
    If you don’t want the name "internal troops", take something else from our glorious history, invent something new, but do not belittle the glorious combat deserved past of combat troops, the Army in battles with foreign invaders. It may still come in handy.


    Why didn't the internal troops please you? In what way are they flawed, and do not deserve the title of the guard? Both Chechen campaigns are on their account, the veveshnikov died there pretty well. Krapoviki are basically "wowan". "I am dying but not surrendering" on the walls of the Brest Fortress was written on the barracks of the NKVD troops. In Stalingrad, the 10th Infantry Division lay down in full force, but held back the Germans, did not allow to capture the city in the very first months of the Battle of Stalingrad. This division was also part of the NKVD troops. And these are not isolated examples, I can go on for a long time. Why are they not worthy? Or are they not combat troops? I disagree. They deserve the guards.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ April 12 2016 11: 48
      +1
      You Do you understand the essence of what is written?

      "Guard", as the difference between combat units and formations, in the fight against an external enemy, including units and formations of the Internal Troops, then the NKVD troops, traditionally established awards of high combat prowess of Russian units and formations.

      And "National Guard", "Rosgvardia", as the general name of special troops, intended mainly to ensure public safety within the state, in the manner of the names of the West, USA.
      It’s not enough that pure licking and mixing of traditional Russian concepts, belittling, reducing the military feat of soldiers, with lives and blood, who have earned the high title of "Guard".

      PS You are recently on the site. Therefore, you have friendly advice: learn to discuss with strangers on you. Otherwise, it speaks of your low culture and intellect, with a corresponding attitude towards you.
  • Caucasian
    Caucasian April 12 2016 11: 07
    0
    All is correct. The National Guard - resembles something colonial, like the natives. We have a multinational country, in Yakutia we have our own National Guard, in Dagestan we have our own, and the Karelians have our own ... There should be a common name, someone here suggested, just name - Guard. But they didn’t ask us and the Russian Guard will also.
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem April 12 2016 11: 19
      0
      Citizens, what are you doing?
      Let's start on the forum to discuss the colors of Easter eggs or something.
      Anecdote:
      "What color will we paint our eggs in for Easter?
      - Into the blue!
      - In the red!
      -In green!
      - Ah, why are you silent?
      -Yes, I don't care what color I paint. If only it wasn't ticklish. "
  • Stabilization
    Stabilization April 12 2016 12: 37
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    Fighting Guard with heavy strides
    Going, sweeping the fortress, with fire in his eyes,
    Flashing battle orders
    Like drops of fresh blood sparkle on swords ...


    Our iron fist sweeps away all obstacles
    Unknown Fathers are satisfied!
    Oh, how the enemy weeps, but there is no mercy on him!
    Go ahead, well done Guards!


    Oh Battle Guard - The Blade of the Law!
    O faithful daredevil guards!
    When in battle the guard columns
    Calm Unknown Fathers!
  • dr. sem
    dr. sem April 12 2016 13: 22
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    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: dr. sem
    why do we spoil it? A powerful punitive body has been created in the country. There is nothing to discuss

    - and you seem to be afraid that it is you that he will "punish"
    - but I'm not afraid for some reason request

    So for that and ADMIN. You know the service ....
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null April 12 2016 13: 34
      +1
      Quote: dr. sem
      So for that and ADMIN. You know the service

      belay Who is admin? I AM ADMIN?

      Yes, I am for such words to you !! am

      Joke laughing
      1. Bruss
        Bruss April 12 2016 15: 34
        0
        Like children, by golly! request
  • trantor
    trantor April 12 2016 13: 22
    0
    Public concerns about this led to the fact that the short name of the National Guard of Russia was proposed to be used as follows ...

    Who suggested? Who is suggested? Why is it suggested?
    Where is this fucking "preoccupied public" dwelling, which, apart from this, has nothing more to worry about?

    No, well, let's take it easy. Need a structure? There are no objections to the functionality? So why drive a wave that the boat is already turning over?
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem April 12 2016 15: 01
      -1
      the public is here. https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = RfN8U1LeOqc
      and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z7tW_3OhN4
  • evgmiz
    evgmiz April 12 2016 17: 22
    +2
    And what is bad - the Gendarmerie?
    1. Bruss
      Bruss April 12 2016 17: 51
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      Quote: "Gendarmerie - originally from French gens d'armes -" people of arms "or" armed retinue ", then French gent d'armes, which is a play on words in which French gent not only means" people ", but also abbreviation from French gentil - "noble", with a hint of the nobility of the original gendarmerie - originally "armed retinue" of the French king - that is, the royal life guard, which initially consisted of heavily armed knights. "
  • Sapsap
    Sapsap April 12 2016 18: 27
    +2
    Dear colleagues!
    Such a stormy and emotional discussion of this topic, once again suggests that this document is not worked out properly. He was quickly convicted in the form of the Decree of the President, which means that he did not go through the chain of approvals, improvements and corrections, and not only semantic, grammatical, linguistic, but also historical and constitutional. This is a big gap in the work of the apparatus of the Presidential Administration !!!
    The idea and content, I personally understand. Timeliness - it was already necessary to do yesterday.
    I consider it appropriate to state article 1 as follows
    "1. The Federal Service of the Internal Troops of the Russian Federation is a federal executive body responsible for the development and implementation of state policy and legal regulation in the field of activities of the internal troops of the Russian Federation, in the field of arms circulation, in the field of private security activities and in the field of non-departmental protection ", - and further in the same context with changes and additions.
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS April 12 2016 18: 44
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      Quote: SAPSAP
      Such a stormy and emotional discussion of this topic, once again suggests that this document is not worked out properly.

      It is interesting to know how this dock is. finally processed
      Quote: SAPSAP
      The idea and content, I personally understand. Timeliness - it was already necessary to do yesterday.

      What for? to pacify? BB can not cope, or what? or did Mr. Pege need a personal guard? protection of castles, palaces? power in the swamp? And who will protect the lady? and what nationality will this eta guard be?
      And the most important question, the "Guard" badge on my "parade" is normal, it is still attached, maybe there are those who want to rip out the "Guard", in turn, sons of bitches, in turn ... am
  • Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 12 2016 21: 59
    +3
    All the same, the name "internal troops" is somehow closer to me than "national guard". And if this is from the same DAM's opera, when the police were called the police, then "a separate gendarmerie corps." This will be historically correct and consistent with the previously mentioned rename.