Military Review

"Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant" presented a prototype train for the UAE Sun.

69
OJSC Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant (VOLAT) presented to journalists the first prototype of the MZKT-741351 + 999421 + 83721 auto train created for the UAE Defense Ministry, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the press service of the company.


"Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant" presented a prototype train for the UAE Sun.


“The road train (MZKT-741351 truck tractor, MZKT-999421 six-axle semi-trailer and MZKT-837211 six-axle trailer) was specially designed for the needs of the UAE armed forces and is able to meet the needs of the most demanding customers. When developing a new superheavy trailer, Volat specialists used the latest design ideas and engineering solutions. All this made it possible to ensure the highest level of quality and reliability along with high payload and maneuverability. Currently, work is underway to set up the prototype and prepare it for the test run ",
says release.

The initial tests will be held in Belarus, and the full complex of tests will be held in the UAE at the end of this year.

It is reported that "the road train can transport up to 3 tracked and wheeled combat vehicles (armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, G6 Howitzer) or 20 / 40-foot containers weighing up to 130 tons, equipped with an onboard information system, a pressure monitoring system and a central tire inflation system." The total mass of the complex is about 210 t.

“The MZKT-741351 truck tractor is equipped with a CAT С18 engine, an ALLISON transmission with electronic control, as well as a dual hydraulic drum winch (developed by 25 tons per drum), the power of a six-cylinder engine with turbocharging and intermediate cooling 597 kW (812 hp) ). New technologies have been used to transfer engine power to the wheels, ”the press service said.
Photos used:
OJSC Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant / www.abw.by
69 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 11 2016 12: 52
    +11
    That's right, Belarusians, it’s time for the whole world to supply their machines, but with a small secret microcircuit, so that in case of something ....
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution April 11 2016 13: 48
      +4
      Quote: Ros 56
      That's right, Belarusians, it’s time for the whole world to supply their machines, but with a small secret microcircuit, so that in case of something ....

      If they learn about such bookmarks, nobody else will buy such machines.
      1. Homo
        Homo April 11 2016 15: 30
        +5
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        If they learn about such bookmarks, nobody else will buy such machines.

        Yah! Everyone knows about "bookmarks" at Intel & Microsoft, but they buy! hi
    2. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 April 11 2016 16: 46
      +1
      We will be glad for the Belarusians. Develop does not stand still, I hope we agree on the price, good devices.
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot April 11 2016 23: 08
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      That's right, Belarusians, it’s time for the whole world to supply their machines, but with a small secret microcircuit, so that in case of something ....



      "The MZKT-741351 truck tractor is equipped with a CAT C18 engine, an ALLISON gearbox with electronic control"
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 April 12 2016 07: 01
        +1
        Which in translation means imported, American. Strong, nothing more to say. I would hang my developers for such things in the square.
  2. St Petrov
    St Petrov April 11 2016 12: 53
    +17
    beautiful technique. Brothers may. And before they were one whole ..

    Ehh. When will Lukashenko get tired of playing square.

    I understand, of course, maybe we didn’t get a snout a bit, we have corruption and all that, but, you’ll be 12 million, what a * independence.

    Your existence goes as long as there is a bear with a nuclear loaf. So would have long been pulled between Poland and other neighbors. Well, if so - why all these antics?

    In the fall there will be a referendum in the Russian Federation and in Ossetia. I think it is necessary to conduct it in Belarus

    The people will choose. And he will not choose - but at least they tried.

    Is the Russian person minus? I’m wondering who can minus the idea of ​​restoring White Russia and our Russian girl as part of one state

    If a Georgian or a Papuan in an embroidered shirt is one thing. And if this is ours (although most likely not quite ours) o_O Unsubscribe, tell us your reasons

    1. JJ2016
      JJ2016 April 11 2016 12: 58
      +1
      And you are a master to pour Old Man in shit!))) He, unlike us, doesn’t ruin production ...
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov April 11 2016 13: 01
        +19
        here you have to look at it from a greater height than you look at it.

        I didn't water shit on anyone. I wrote about corruption above - but it's all dust against the backdrop of geopolitics. Due to dust, plans do not change

        There is a country with a population of 12 million. It is surrounded by (almost) enemies (it just so happened).

        15 million live in Moscow. This is for you to compare the numbers. Maybe something will click in your head after realizing these facts.

        Or do you think that Belarus is because ... it was just lucky not to be torn to pieces by the example of Yugoslavia? Or is it still there because there is a northern neighbor?

        Well, if a country exists thanks to the cover of another country - then why should this country play independence?

        Well, and about ruining the industry - if we were ruining it the way you think about it - after lowering oil prices we would have kirdyk at the end of the same quarter, when this decline


        1. noWAR
          noWAR April 11 2016 13: 08
          +6
          I wonder how many native Muscovites are in Moscow? At least half is there?
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov April 11 2016 13: 12
            +5
            it is important? In Moscow, Belarusians think no less than several hundred thousand)
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak April 11 2016 18: 56
            0
            Quote: noWAR
            I wonder how many native Muscovites are in Moscow?

            As a rule, they claim that people are considered as indigenous people, after at least three generations, after settling in a new place. Given that the life span of one generation is about 60 years, consider.
            Moscow, 1900 Population - 1 million people.
            Moscow, 2016 Population 12 330 126
            It seems that there are still very few indigenous Moscow residents. Most of them are newcomers.
            1. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian April 11 2016 20: 00
              0
              Generations seem to change after 20 years according to sociologists.
        2. JJ2016
          JJ2016 April 11 2016 13: 10
          -9
          I dare to assure you that if Lukashenko was the president of Russia, he would use the potential of my homeland-Russia more efficiently. I rely on facts.
          1. SMikhalych
            SMikhalych April 11 2016 13: 53
            +5
            Quote: JJ2016
            I dare to assure you that if Lukashenko was the president of Russia, he would use the potential of my homeland-Russia more efficiently. I rely on facts.

            I dare to assure you that it is completely incomprehensible to me what kind of facts you are relying on. The fact is that the difference between running a country like Russia and a country like Belarus is the same as between "on you" love and "in you" stop
            Here, in the manual control mode of the Belarusian economy, little is achieved, but we are holding on. And to cope with such a colossus as Russia, and even with the fact that for decades there has been a lobby that continues to actively work out its grants ...
            Here we need completely different mechanisms, which the AHL can only dream of ... no offense, be it, he was told. And it’s not necessary for some to repeat again about some 2-3 chairs, for each pianist plays as he can. hi
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 11 2016 16: 21
              0
              Quote: SMikhalych
              And to cope with such a colossus as Russia, and even with the fact that for decades there has been a lobby that continues to actively work out its grants ...

              The fact of the matter is that people need to be put in key places of the faithful. Lukashenko set. GDP is the same ... Results on face. request
              1. SMikhalych
                SMikhalych April 11 2016 21: 30
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                The fact of the matter is that people need to be put in key places of the faithful. Lukashenko set. GDP is the same ... Results on face.

                Oh don't laugh my slippers laughing We have a deck of contenders for ministerial seats shuffled to holes. It is already high time to use the abbreviated phrase: "Eh, this ministerial chair will bring you to the zugunder!" And this is in a country where there are no longer 10 million people. What would the AHL do in Russia? Where to recruit SO MANY "loyal people for key positions"? There, the methods of force that we use do not work. You at least sometimes think with your head and compare the size, situation and administrative resources. This is especially clearly seen when Russian governors come to Belarus ... and meet with the first person of Belarus ON EQUALS, and they come to the first person of Russia with a report on the work done (or overwhelmed). Do you feel the difference?
        3. SMikhalych
          SMikhalych April 11 2016 13: 17
          +8
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          There is a country with a population of 12 million ...

          Unfortunately, less than 10 million. recourse
        4. lesnik1978
          lesnik1978 April 11 2016 13: 35
          +4
          Population less than 10 million
        5. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak April 11 2016 17: 23
          +1
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          15 million live in Moscow.

          If this is not a state secret, where does this figure come from? Give her a reference, please.
          The population of Moscow as of January 1, 2016 is 12 people according to the Federal State Statistics Service (330) dated 126/1/09.03.2016 on assessing the population of Russia by region as of 01.01.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX.
          http://www.statdata.ru/naselenie-moskvy-po-okrugam-i-rajonam
      2. Deniska
        Deniska April 11 2016 13: 03
        +2
        And you master dad dad shit!)))


        Point your finger at least to the shit grammar @ /
      3. vovanpain
        vovanpain April 11 2016 13: 04
        +12
        Quote: JJ2016
        And you are a master to pour Old Man in shit!))) He, unlike us, doesn’t ruin production ...

        Well, yes, yes, in Russia there is a bare desert, no one goes to work, well, all the monsters are killed, my father does not sit on two chairs, everything is fine. Damn, these songs are about paradise life.
        1. JJ2016
          JJ2016 April 11 2016 13: 26
          -6
          Keep it up, Marshal Cat! Being generalissimo, it’s good that it’s cardboard!))) We have long had a desert, look around, go beyond the MKAD ...
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain April 11 2016 14: 57
            +8
            Quote: JJ2016
            Keep it up, Marshal Cat! Being generalissimo, it’s good that it’s cardboard!))) We have long had a desert, look around, go beyond the MKAD ...

            Yes, take yourself a respected Generalissimo, but before you plunge into a puddle, first go outside the Moscow Ring Road yourself and look around, not the Garden of Eden, of course, but not a desert either, you think it's a desert, but I can't understand how we live, the desert turns out to be, we don’t work, we don’t get pensions, we get it, evona like. Yes, my dear, I beg your pardon, I didn’t say right away, I live outside the Moscow Ring Road and I see what is being done, next time you dear, go and see how the elections are approaching, there’s a lot at once ” saviors "of the fatherland appears.
      4. Homo
        Homo April 11 2016 15: 31
        +3
        Quote: JJ2016
        And you are a master to pour Old Man in shit!))) He, unlike us, doesn’t ruin production ...

        Of course, Old Man has everything in chocolate and he raised the retirement age from sweetness!
    2. Swed
      Swed April 11 2016 13: 04
      +6
      12 has long been gone. According to the documents, about 10 were registered, in fact, 7-8 million live in the territory of the Republic of Belarus. Many left for permanent residence in other countries, but are not written out so that it would be possible to visit their parents sometimes.
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 11 2016 16: 16
      +2
      Quote: s-t Petrov
      I think it is necessary to conduct it in Belarus
      The people will choose. And he will not choose - but at least they tried.

      Will not choose. Our government, headed by the Lady, they do not need in FIG. Baumgertner was caught there by the hand, with proof. Issued to ours. And he just changed his place of work, like Serdyukov. So think about it - do they need it? hi
  3. pavelty
    pavelty April 11 2016 12: 54
    +1
    Wow 812 hp, this is a whole herd)) Noble machine
  4. Vik66
    Vik66 April 11 2016 12: 57
    +1
    The engine and automatic transmission are imported, we are not suitable. Arabs - the very thing to carry Abrams in the desert. Particularly pleased with the rigid hitch on the bumper - with such a weight it should be the thickness of a 125 mm gun barrel, and there is a stick with two flirty rings smile
    1. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych April 11 2016 15: 49
      0
      Quote: Vik66
      Particularly pleased with the rigid hitch on the bumper - with such a weight it should be the thickness of a 125 mm gun barrel, and there is a stick with two flirty rings

      For information, there is such a science as the resistance of materials, the calculations of which are subjected to various elements. Or do you think that the farther into the forest, the thicker the partisans should be? recourse By the way, I recommend to compare with the thickness of the tank cable (standard) 46 mm and jerk - something about 60 mm. So everything is buzzing here.
  5. Horst78
    Horst78 April 11 2016 12: 57
    +1
    It looks serious good But in our conditions
    The total mass of the complex is about 210 tons.
    и
    Road train (tractor MZKT-741351, six-axle semi-trailer MZKT-999421 and six-axle trailer MZKT-837211
    natryatli will do.
  6. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets April 11 2016 12: 58
    +3
    The name is a match, Volat in translation means Bogatyr.
  7. Anglorussian
    Anglorussian April 11 2016 12: 59
    +4
    CAT engine Allison So do not very much they can.
    1. JJ2016
      JJ2016 April 11 2016 13: 02
      0
      Arabs easier to maintain Amer nodes.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 11 2016 13: 16
      +3
      And so that the production of engines and gearboxes pays off - you need to sell them at several thousand pieces a year.
    3. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych April 11 2016 14: 04
      +3
      Quote: Anglorussian
      CAT engine Allison So do not very much they can.

      And what? Is this the most powerful argument? For a subject with an incomprehensible nationality, who was poorly taught in a technical university (if taught), I can explain that in engineering there is such a thing as a transmission, all of whose elements are consistent in their performance characteristics. And it’s just naive to think that it’s enough to take an engine with an incredible number of horses and a box, dock them together and get the desired result. And there is also such a thing as minimizing dynamic loads in such a crap as a transmission, which guarantees the durability of the structure ...
      But this can be explained to an understanding person ... so, you don’t really understand the design of machines, so it’s better to keep silent sometimes - so you can pass for a smart yes
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian April 11 2016 14: 49
        -1
        Do not be offended by force, the subact is very clear. I did not study at a technical university. What does not bother me by car ride. And generally in life does not interfere. Americans will say that you don’t deserve to buy their goods from them, and all your technicians will pick apples in the market. The bottom line is that this is created over the hill, right? Is there a weighty full argument?
        1. SMikhalych
          SMikhalych April 11 2016 15: 32
          +3
          Quote: Anglorussian
          I did not study at a technical university. What does not bother me by car ride.

          They say that if a rabbit is banged its head on a stump for a long time, then it can be taught to light matches. And in our circuses and bears on motorcycles and bicycles know how to ride))).
          Quote: Anglorussian
          Americans will say that you don’t deserve to buy their goods from them, and all your technicians will pick apples in the market.

          I don’t know what kind of Americans they mean, but the same Americans do not disdain the purchase of Russian RD engines for missiles. Therefore, the argument is rather weak. There is such a thing as cooperation. Have not heard of this? It's a pity. You can, of course, rest your horn and tell the world that the latest modification of BELAZ also has a dvigun from Cummings, but neither Caterpiller nor Komatsu have created a car with a carrying capacity of 450 tons.
          And if you take into account the brains directly, then Belarus, for example, is the leader in selling software abroad. If you did not guess, then the Viber application is a Belarusian development. I'm not talking about the World of Tanks toy)))
          And as for our specialists ... I came across both Americans and Canadians ... I just wiped them off with simple decisions that they didn’t even know about. As an example: the Americans poured an incredible amount of money into the development of a writing device in zero gravity, and the Russians (stupidly) write with a simple pencil for 3 kopecks (in Soviet prices).
          Will we still mind or mop up? crying
          1. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian April 11 2016 16: 20
            +1
            But about the pencil, it’s Boyan cranberry. India is leading the sale of software (Hindu code, however). Drive a car simply. And the hare will be able to. But will a hare be able to maintain it? Although I just got a shock that your salary is not enough, that’s rushing pride in all the holes. But I came across specialists ... and I can say that even the British are at the level, but the Germans .. In a word, play tanki, offended techie, save up to pay and don’t think that the smartest one.
            1. SMikhalych
              SMikhalych April 11 2016 21: 45
              +1
              Quote: Anglorussian
              Although I just got a shock that your salary is not enough, that’s rushing pride in all the holes. But I came across specialists ... and I can say that even the British are at the level, but the Germans .. In a word, play tanki, offended techie, save up to pay and don’t think that the smartest one.

              You count your rip, a half-wit, and I have long ago put down my pension fund and feel very good))). Therefore, I can afford to dig deeper into the garden and wander around fishing spots. And between these hobbies, it is also advisable to advise a people who still need the knowledge and experience that it was necessary to obtain at the time of the USSR. Sucked in?
              1. Anglorussian
                Anglorussian April 12 2016 12: 36
                0
                So I thought the old komunyak. My salary is one of the best in Europe, damn old. Share your knowledge with those who were unlucky to be dumber than you, and furthermore. You were lucky to retire along the way - now I would have fallen under a raised age and would have died at work.
            2. Koshak
              Koshak 27 November 2016 16: 25
              0
              Quote: Anglorussian
              Drive a car simply. And the hare will be able to. But will a hare be able to maintain it?

              If a hare (like you) has a lot of money, then the mind is not needed. Go to the service station, pay grandmas, that's all
          2. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian April 11 2016 16: 31
            0
            By the way, the money spent on developing the Fisher space pen a long time ago (50 years ago) paid off and brought a net profit. It is possible that their profits are comparable to BELAZ. And yes, NASA did not pay for their development — Paul Fisher developed, patented (n. 3425779) before NASA procurement.
          3. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian April 11 2016 16: 37
            -1
            And even 3-penny pencil lead particles will destroy half of the equipment. Lead Zero Gravity and they will fly away where it is not necessary. And tell me how NATO satellites blinded with a flashlight?
          4. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian April 11 2016 17: 28
            0
            Skype is an Estonian development, and what comes next?
  8. demo
    demo April 11 2016 13: 11
    -18%
    The Belarusians of the Chinese remind me of something.
    Why think with your head, if you can just stupidly copy.
    1. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych April 11 2016 13: 30
      +17
      Quote: demo
      The Belarusians of the Chinese remind me of something.

      And he showed the car of the German concern MAN laughing
      Quote: demo
      Why think with your head, if you can just stupidly copy.

      In fact, it’s much easier, without thinking with your head, to blurt out what’s going up in the head instead of going to the MZKT website - http://www.mzkt.by/ and looking at the line of special vehicles that have been injected into Russia for a long time including. Once again, I am convinced that the fuck .. no - not carry bags. Sorry, of course, but the number of stars on uniforms does not indicate the presence of a brain.
    2. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad April 11 2016 13: 31
      +1
      The Chinese version of economic development is not the worst. Sluggish Chinese became the second economy in the world. So they have something to adopt.
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian April 11 2016 13: 36
        +1
        Due to the size of his humane man and the ruthless exploitation of the villagers that go to the cities for the best share.
  9. Panabebis
    Panabebis April 11 2016 13: 13
    +5
    This is what nationalization + lack of liberalism means! Belaz, for example, is already popular all over the world! Keep Belarus up to date!
  10. Belarus
    Belarus April 11 2016 13: 19
    +2
    All this is certainly good, but the question arises of the price and the number of orders ??? After all, now that the Prime Minister has said that the Russian Federation will no longer place orders for tractors for the MZKT. Russia was the main supplier of tractors for the RF Armed Forces, but after the Republic of Belarus refused to sell the RF plant, the package of orders as I understood it was canceled as I understood it.
    That is why the question arises: when will the production and testing begin, when will the deliveries begin, how much will be delivered, and so on. And most importantly what will be the price. So I think it's too early to say something definite.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 11 2016 13: 29
      +4
      Price? The MZKT-741351 + 999421 + 83721 road train was supplied with about $ 1.4 million apiece. I think it will be more expensive with this machine.

      Here, the already won tender is a big plus. The results of which were "blurred" under US pressure. But now the sanctions have been lifted ...
      1. sq
        sq April 11 2016 13: 43
        +5
        The sanctions were lifted, but this does not mean that everything will turn out so well. If the Yusovtsy lift the sanctions, it looks suspicious: either we have already been written off completely and are not considered worthy of attention, or they are preparing some much more muck.
  11. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz April 11 2016 13: 28
    0
    Quote: s-t Petrov
    Ehh. When will Lukashenko get tired of playing square.

    This one will get tired, another will come, with fresh strength and will start all over again.
  12. Verdun
    Verdun April 11 2016 13: 46
    -1
    Quote: s-t Petrov

    I didn't water shit on anyone. I wrote about corruption above - but it's all dust against the backdrop of geopolitics. Due to dust, plans do not change

    What is geopolitics if not the implementation of the plans of a corrupt leadership? To understand how effectively Lukashenko leads the country, it is enough to go to the MAZ or BelAZ website. Factories work, and very successfully. Unlike the Russian automotive industry, from which there were horns and legs, and it is not clear in whose hands. At the same time, Belarus does not have either Western-style democracy or an abundance of oil and minerals.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov April 11 2016 13: 54
      0
      KAMAZ, VAZ, AMZ?

      Well, about

      What is geopolitics if not the implementation of the plans of a corrupt leadership?


      this is of course beyond)

      Well, about the fossils - Belarusians here demanded gas at a price of $ 80. It’s cheaper than for ourselves. They were left the same price - but it is less than anyone else.

      So let's not be cunning here, seasoning everything with liberal moans.

      Russia is very soft and gentle to the Old Man and to his (his) people

      1. Verdun
        Verdun April 11 2016 14: 16
        +3

        Yes, of course, KAMAZ, VAZ, AMZ ... And let me ask you, in whose hands is the controlling stake in these plants? Where is ZIL and AZLK? How good are products manufactured by existing enterprises?
        As for the favorable gas price, there is something for it. At least for the air defense shield, which Belarus holds in the north-west direction, removing the burden on the Russian budget.
        KAMAZ tried to create a consortium with MAZ. But having felt that the matter was muddy, the Belarusians slowed down the process. They were not happy that KAMAZ would have the leading advantage. The upset KAMAZ management almost immediately sold a large block of shares to a foreign investor. It seems that if the deal with the Belarusians were burned out, the shares of their enterprise would also have gone there.
        1. Grbear
          Grbear April 11 2016 14: 54
          +4
          Verdun -y
          At least for the air defense shield, which Belarus holds in the north-west direction, removing the burden on the Russian budget.

          If it were not for the "Russian shield" in the form of a triad, then Belarus would be close to Moldova and Georgia, and no patriotism-pragmatism-socialism performed by Batka would have helped him. They would eat and spit out the bones. Buying "patriots" from the West is a huge experience. Nobody wants to belittle the importance of Belarus in our relations here, but the coast should be seen. hi

          ps And what's with the videoconferencing base? Don't agree on the price? "Holding the shield" for money is mercenary work. Is not it?
          1. Verdun
            Verdun April 11 2016 15: 05
            -1
            Yes, of course, I completely forgot - there is such a word - freebie! Moreover, only Russians should use it. But still, I would like to clarify what "triad" do you mean? And where did you get the idea that Russia is going to cover Belarus with its shield?
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov April 11 2016 15: 36
              -1
              there is such a word - freebie! Moreover, only Russians should use it. But still, I would like to clarify what "triad" do you mean? And where did you get the idea that Russia is going to cover Belarus with its shield?


              are you on drugs And where did you get that is not going to cover? Were there any precedents?

              Nuclear triad (Nuclear triad) - a strategic armed forces equipped with nuclear weapons, which includes three components: strategic aviation, intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear submarine missile carriers.

              1. Verdun
                Verdun April 11 2016 15: 38
                +1
                Sure! I sit and eat Belarusian bacon!)) Rockets are a sword, and certainly not a shield. And, by the way, Chinese organized crime is also called the Triad. And as for "covering with a shield" ... With Iraq and Libya, we also, I remember, had an agreement on mutual military assistance ...
                1. sq
                  sq April 11 2016 16: 17
                  +2
                  About the shield. Belarus in almost any situation is the place of the fall of downed rockets and warheads, both NATO and Russian.
                  1. Verdun
                    Verdun April 11 2016 16: 39
                    +1
                    And this is also true! It is sad, but many leaders of the former Soviet republics are trying to sit on two chairs not from a good life. Money does not fall from heaven. You have to spin. And if we regard Russia and Belarus as fraternal states, then the elder brother should, if possible, help the younger. Moreover, unlike the Bulgarian "brothers" (this is me for an example), the Belarusian brothers behave much more consistently.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 11 2016 16: 25
        0
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        KAMAZ, VAZ, AMZ?

        WHA. Greetings from Tolyatti.
      3. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank April 11 2016 16: 44
        +1
        How to sell electricity to the Chinese cheaper than in Russia, it is possible, but how to sell gas cheaper to the Belarusian brothers than in Russia, so fuck !! The Russian soul is mysterious and incomprehensible, everything for "friends and girlfriends". Therefore, we live badly!
      4. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank April 11 2016 16: 44
        -1
        How to sell electricity to the Chinese cheaper than in Russia, it is possible, but how to sell gas cheaper to the Belarusian brothers than in Russia, so fuck !! The Russian soul is mysterious and incomprehensible, everything for "friends and girlfriends". Therefore, we live badly!
  13. The comment was deleted.
  14. ruskih
    ruskih April 11 2016 15: 08
    +3
    I want to say thank you, the site is working fine. All problems have disappeared. love
  15. Verdun
    Verdun April 11 2016 16: 02
    +2
    In fact, Belarusians can only rejoice. The fact that some blame the foreign stuffing is from technical illiteracy. Belarus does not have its own engine-building base. Our, Russian, is also not ideal. Machines that are equipped with motors of the Yaroslavl and Tutaevsky plants go mainly to our market. That factories have to use imported components. Caterpillar diesels are known worldwide for their quality. The gearbox is calculated for a specific motor with its characteristics. If this is not done, we get the next UAZ Patriot at the output, where one gearbox for all types of engines ...
    1. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych April 11 2016 21: 59
      +1
      Quote: Verdun
      Belarus does not have its own engine-building base.

      Hasty statement request
      And what is this - http://www.po-mmz.minsk.by/? And I strongly recommend that you look into the catalog of applicability, where the consumers include PAZs, and GAZs, and Tverskoy excavator, and Rostselmash ...
      And if you do not know this, this does not mean at all that Belarusians do not have their own engine-building base))).
  16. ship
    ship April 11 2016 18: 34
    +2
    At the conclusion of the contract, the customer often stipulates the type and company of the manufacturer of the power plant and other components. This is an ordinary phenomenon.
  17. 16112014nk
    16112014nk April 11 2016 19: 11
    +1
    Quote: Verdun
    The upset KAMAZ management almost immediately sold a large block of shares to a foreign investor.

    KamAZ and Daimler squinted. Daimler bought a 10% stake in KamAZ, and intends to increase its stake in order to annex the brand.
    But in Belarus Shushkevich wanted to close the production of MAZs and BELAZs. But Lukashenko came, and both plants are working, and BELAZ produces almost 60% of mining dump trucks in the world!
    And we have not had Yolkin for a long time, just as there is no ZIL, AZLK, Izhavto.
  18. Verdun
    Verdun April 11 2016 19: 20
    0
    To all appearances, nobody thinks about the problems of the Russian engine building. But it is precisely about them that "Armata" can stumble ... You cannot put a third-party motor on it.
  19. Caa
    Caa April 11 2016 19: 32
    0
    Quote: s-t Petrov
    but dad, you are 12 million


    9,6
  20. Mentat
    Mentat April 11 2016 20: 13
    +1
    Quote: Verdun
    Quote: s-t Petrov

    I didn't water shit on anyone. I wrote about corruption above - but it's all dust against the backdrop of geopolitics. Due to dust, plans do not change

    What is geopolitics if not the implementation of the plans of a corrupt leadership? To understand how effectively Lukashenko leads the country, it is enough to go to the MAZ or BelAZ website. Factories work, and very successfully. Unlike the Russian automotive industry, from which there were horns and legs, and it is not clear in whose hands. At the same time, Belarus does not have either Western-style democracy or an abundance of oil and minerals.

    It is remarkable that Belarus has an automotive industry. Good luck to her. It’s bad that for some reason you forget where it has its main sales market and where energy comes from (and at what prices), without which no industry can exist.

    If Belarus suddenly, hypothetically, tomorrow buys oil and gas at the prices at which they are supplied to industrialized Germany, for example, there are doubts about successfully operating plants ... These successful plants are a direct result of the connected economy of Belarus and Russia. It's good. Just do not forget about it.