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Reuters: EU may introduce visa-free regime for Ukrainians with some reservations

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In April, the European Commission (EC) will propose "the introduction of a visa-free regime for Ukraine, despite the results of the Dutch referendum," reports a source in Reuters.




“It may look like ignoring the opinions of citizens of the Netherlands, but we (the European Union) are obliged to fulfill the promise given to Kiev,” the interlocutor quotes. RIA News.

According to him, the EC will include in the proposal a “protective item that will allow temporary restoration of visa barriers in the event of an influx of migrants.”

The agency recalls that in March, the head of the European Commission Juncker promised the Ukrainian president Poroshenko that in April he would come up with a "legislative initiative on visa liberalization with Ukraine."

This proposal can be implemented if it is approved by the European Parliament and the Council of the EU, which is represented by all member states of the European Community.
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  1. Vend
    Vend April 11 2016 10: 02
    +9
    Well now get out. The mind did not have enough to immediately understand that Svidomo has no place in the EU. You are to blame, you need to think with your head laughing
    1. cniza
      cniza April 11 2016 10: 25
      +39
      And what a problem, let them give visa-free entry to Ukraine, it’s not cold and hot for us, let them rejoice at least for something.
      1. 70BSN
        70BSN April 11 2016 10: 39
        +18
        Yes, let them do what they want ....... better show them to us as we have inside the country F ...... complete in all areas except the military-industrial complex ..... otherwise you look everywhere Ukrainians, Syrians, Europeans with their problems, and what do we have - what do we have ??? !!
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut April 11 2016 10: 44
          +2
          If you do not agree, we will write to "Sportloto."
          1. 2s1122
            2s1122 April 11 2016 12: 20
            0
            And those who are the refusenik, we turn off the GAS belay
      2. WKS
        WKS April 11 2016 10: 43
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        And what a problem, let them give visa-free entry to Ukraine, it’s not cold and hot for us, let them rejoice at least for something.

        On the contrary, indignation is overwhelming people put their bellies, they were promised, and now ... People have ruined their own country in order to go to Europe on foot. No, "guys-democrats" are free and visa-free both on internal Ukrainian passports and to all corners of the EU.
        1. Suhov
          Suhov April 11 2016 11: 50
          +4
          Quote: wks
          People have ruined their own country in order to walk to Europe.

          If they refuse (but it will seem so) then
          this behavior of our "potential partners" is the height of cynicism ...
          Inspired by:
          - Guests, will you eat yesterday’s borsch?
          - Yes!
          - Then come tomorrow! smile
      3. vovanpain
        vovanpain April 11 2016 10: 56
        +15
        Quote: cniza
        let them give visa-free entry to Ukraine, it’s not cold and hot for us

        That's for sure, let them go to their "brothers". fellow
        1. 2s1122
          2s1122 April 11 2016 12: 29
          0
          Previously, stamps were issued in honor of the uchons, art workers, great political figures. And in Ukraine, in honor of the ASS workers, it is necessary that the medal was released "Torn Ass" -1 degree fellow
        2. Yuri from Volgograd
          Yuri from Volgograd April 11 2016 14: 58
          +1
          And tell me, what's the difference, they have a visa regime or not?
          If you have a bare ass, you still will not go there without a visa, stupidly a penny for food is not enough, you will not spend the night in a hotel.
          Unless in the status of a bum ...
      4. Altona
        Altona April 11 2016 11: 04
        +6
        Quote: cniza
        And what a problem, let them give visa-free entry to Ukraine, it’s not cold and hot for us, let them rejoice at least for something.

        -----------------------
        So visa-free entry is about nothing. Who should have, long ago there already, washed the asses of feeble Europeans and Europeans, cut lawns and pulled strawberries.
      5. Pavel Tsybai
        Pavel Tsybai April 11 2016 12: 05
        0
        Yes, better let them give visa-free, the more Svidomo to Europe dumped the more Russia and LDNR easier. And the toilet in Europe, despite the Arabs, should be enough for all Ukrainians.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 11 2016 10: 26
      +6
      Reservations reservations but! It has already been estimated that the average salary of Ukrainians equals the cost of 40 cups of coffee in Europe. Well, for whom is this visa-free regime? So that the desired lace panties are canceled indefinitely. laughing
      1. Wolverine
        Wolverine April 11 2016 10: 36
        +7
        Well, the correct entry will be made 3000 euros so that it is in your pocket for a week, the rich as usual will be able to afford and the horses to sit on the priest exactly ...
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      3. ARES623
        ARES623 April 11 2016 11: 17
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        So that the desired lace panties are canceled indefinitely.

        That's just them panties and to nothing. In European brothels, a bunch of vacancies have formed, and here are the applicants on the way. It is necessary for someone to occupy migrants so that they leave the locals alone! smile
      4. Patriot 1
        Patriot 1 April 11 2016 12: 14
        0
        For example: a family of refugees of seven in Germany in June 2015 received a benefit of 3600 euros .... Maybe this is of course some one-off payments, but in Ukraine, for the vast majority of families, this is unheard of money. So sit down and watch a new show fellow
        1. bovig
          bovig April 11 2016 12: 54
          +1
          Quote: Patriot 1
          For example: a family of refugees of seven in Germany in June 2015 received a benefit of 3600 euros .... Maybe this is of course some one-off payments, but in Ukraine, for the vast majority of families, this is unheard of money. So sit down and watch a new show fellow

          Quote: Patriot 1
          For example: a family of refugees of seven in Germany in June 2015 received a benefit of 3600 euros .... Maybe this is of course some one-off payments, but in Ukraine, for the vast majority of families, this is unheard of money. So sit down and watch a new show fellow

          Probably, for this you need to obtain refugee status ... Right from the anti-terrorist operation zone, the right-wing people will rush to same-sex "large" families ...))))
        2. your1970
          your1970 April 11 2016 12: 56
          +1
          Do you think the whole of Ukraine will leave?
          it would be nice, and for everyone: they are in Europe, we are calm, there will be no one to thrash LDNR ....
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    3. Finches
      Finches April 11 2016 10: 29
      +18
      "Fighting Svidomo and Arabs-Battlefield Paris!" - soon on all TV channels in the world! laughing
      1. 2s1122
        2s1122 April 11 2016 11: 24
        +1
        And who will bet on the winner laughing
      2. Suhov
        Suhov April 11 2016 12: 09
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        "Fighting Svidomo and Arabs-Battlefield Paris!" - soon on all TV channels in the world! laughing

        Yesterday, a group of masochists quarreled with a group of sadists.
        There was a fight.
        Sadists won.
        But, both sides of the conflict received pleasure ... smile
        Question: Who is Svidomo?
        I can not understand.
        So only sadists can leave their country.
        But, on the other hand, they will have to live in this country.
        And this is a sure sign of masochists.
    4. Rezident007
      Rezident007 April 11 2016 14: 03
      +1
      Well, at least the Ukrainians will dilute the blood of already semi-Arab, semi-Negroid Europeans))) Here’s a mixture of something explosive ...)))
  2. MOTHER
    MOTHER April 11 2016 10: 03
    +4
    Again promises ..? The Kidalovo Century is called how much blood has been shed and plundered!
    1. avvg
      avvg April 11 2016 10: 08
      +6
      Probably, someday there will be a visa-free regime for Ukrainians and it will be with the following reservations: "a visa-free regime will be introduced, for those Ukrainians who have money"
  3. sergo1914
    sergo1914 April 11 2016 10: 03
    +6
    Hmm ... Reservations? I alone remembered lace panties?
    1. Yunik
      Yunik April 11 2016 10: 28
      +1
      I also thought about it, without a visa you can only show lacy panties, and the floor does not matter
  4. Abbra
    Abbra April 11 2016 10: 04
    +4
    The EU continues to stupid in full. Soon, the entire population of Ukraine will fly to Europe. They don’t seem enough there ...
    1. Abbra
      Abbra April 11 2016 11: 17
      +1
      In BO climbs some banderlog and minus the critics of a visa-free regime.
      1. 2s1122
        2s1122 April 11 2016 12: 33
        -1
        calculate and ban
  5. Knowing
    Knowing April 11 2016 10: 07
    +4
    There are few refugees from Africa and BV in gay Europe, now there will be a "tsunami" from dill ... laughing Although the commands from the owners must be carried out implicitly ... Ban Ki-moon probably feels probably uncomfortable: "Today Ukraine is" an absolutely undesirable element in the common European field ", across Fashington stood.
  6. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 11 2016 10: 07
    0
    "with some reservations"

    if Ukrainians do not go to Europe. yes
    1. lelikas
      lelikas April 11 2016 10: 27
      +6
      Quote: Vladimirets
      if Ukrainians do not go to Europe.

      They will go and go, and the majority of the male population, of military age, will be the first to fall down.
  7. pv1005
    pv1005 April 11 2016 10: 07
    +3
    “It may look like ignoring the opinions of citizens of the Netherlands, but we (the European Union) must fulfill the promise made to Kiev”

    Well, that’s all right, a promise has been given to fulfill it. And the citizens of the Netherlands on this occasion did not give any promises. So everything is correct. wassat
  8. Riv
    Riv April 11 2016 10: 12
    0
    Who would doubt that? Of course there will be reservations. "It might look like" is a slip of the tongue. Let's see what else they will "say", but I have a strong presentiment: the most profound zrada is ahead.
  9. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 April 11 2016 10: 13
    +10
    With the abolition of EU visas in an hour will be twenty-five million more people. And Ukraine will catch up to Mongolia by the number of people per square kilometer. AND NO POINTS WILL HELP!
  10. biserino
    biserino April 11 2016 10: 15
    0
    The right to work in any EU country for Ukrainians is still- NO.

    Sory, democracy.
  11. Siga77
    Siga77 April 11 2016 10: 16
    +2
    If a visa-free regime is introduced by order of mattresses, 20 million of the population is at least ruins, of which hundreds of thousands with weapons in their hands and a deformed psyche will rush into Geyrop, merging with the rest of the Arab comrades, then no "some reservations" will help, and will come holiday of pain!
  12. Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 11 2016 10: 20
    +11
    Let's reason sensibly and realistically.
    Europe needed Ukraine only as a door to Russia for the sale of its goods. The door was sealed. In other words, Russia had to sponsor this door. The standard of living in Ukraine was supposed to increase. The Russians should have looked enviously at the example of Ukraine. And here's a reason for "Maidana" in Russia. And then cookies, tires, the collapse of Russia.
    But then “something went wrong.” The West underestimated the Putin factor.
    Now Ukraine without the function of a door is not really needed. All the more, the West itself will have to sponsor the latter. Paris and die "I don’t understand at all. For a free three-month visa, to“ rock ”the country fool
    Anyone who can wants to work in Europe has already traveled there. And now you might think that from Sumy or Zhytomyr to Europe for the weekend or to relax, tens of thousands will go to enjoy the Champs Elysees laughing laughing
  13. Served once
    Served once April 11 2016 10: 21
    +16
    How tired of already with Ukraine ... Let them go wherever they want. If all this mess because of a 30 euro visa, then the adequacy of Europe and Ukraine is in doubt.
  14. weksha50
    weksha50 April 11 2016 10: 21
    +3
    Honestly, I’ve recently started to think about something that would be nice if the EU still introduced a visa-free regime for Ukraine ...

    Already, a huge part of the population is located in Russia ...

    The other part will be broken in the EU ...

    There will be no one to work for the benefit of the country's economy, and even more so - to fight in the so-called ATO ...

    So-called self-collapse (or Euro-collapse) of Ukraine will happen slowly ...

    Well, a feather in ... in the back ...

    PS Europe after a maximum of a year will howl from its mistake, but it will be too late ...
  15. Dim Bes
    Dim Bes April 11 2016 10: 22
    +6
    Well, They didn’t have problems, so they decided to start a piglet. It will be a sight.
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 11 2016 10: 22
    +3
    Why be surprised, they have gays, all through the railway! laughing
  17. shinobi
    shinobi April 11 2016 10: 24
    +1
    They all left one loophole for themselves. They should vote everything, in a way shorter.
  18. Pig
    Pig April 11 2016 10: 32
    +2
    “A security point that will allow temporary restoration of visa barriers in case of an influx of migrants”
    those. not only everyone can get into the EU;)
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 11 2016 10: 34
    +3
    I wonder if Ukrainians will like Arab Europe?
    And on the other hand, let them leave ... if they can.
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 11 2016 10: 37
    +5
    Let them give. They simply don’t know how much the maydaunas are more dangerous than Islamic migrants. They will be much more organized, prepared for the use of various criminal schemes, and visually indistinguishable from Europeans! At one time in Prague, it was Ukrainians who tried to rob me right on the street! They were not lucky, but I remember ...
    1. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian April 11 2016 11: 28
      0
      they are quite distinguishable in the crowd, at least in Britain and in the north of Europe. Like Romanians and Arabs they can be seen in many factors, clothing, manners, faces. In addition, they always hold on to their strangers as a source of danger. Zilch from this get. Yes, and Europe does not intend to grant the right to employment. The first offenders will be the horses themselves, lead them to believe that Europeans are eating them with beer-fat and open arms. Well, except for the Dutch.
  21. japs
    japs April 11 2016 10: 38
    +5
    Give them each their underwear and let them frolic in the geyrop. Though we’ll look at the big top.
  22. evil partisan
    evil partisan April 11 2016 10: 43
    0
    Ukrainians! Then you get limited free slaves, or what? what Well, that’s right: for IT it was worth the whole country for 2 years to raskhrenachit. yes
  23. mivmim
    mivmim April 11 2016 10: 44
    +1
    Reuters: EU may introduce visa-free regime for Ukrainians with some reservations

    In the Netherlands, it was a whip. And now they decided to sweeten them with gingerbread, otherwise suddenly the outskirts will be asked back, under the wing of Russia.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 11 2016 12: 42
      +6
      Quote: mivmim
      In the Netherlands, it was a whip. And now they decided to sweeten them with gingerbread, otherwise suddenly the outskirts will be asked back, under the wing of Russia.

      They will surround this visa-free regime with such obstacles that you can slip through FIGs)))
  24. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 April 11 2016 10: 48
    +2
    I remember the thug song of the 90s: "I will pump you a hysterics. Yes, you emigrate to America. Go there, the road with a tablecloth. Go there to your mother's edreni. There you will meet a two-meter black man. There is a bull, there would be a cow!" Let the dill go to the EU, let their asses flare up there ...
  25. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 11 2016 10: 48
    0
    but we (the European Union) are obligated to fulfill the promise made to Kiev

    Let Brussels do what it wants. The promise will be fulfilled - they will make another problem. To rake it up themselves. That's when the svidomye, according to their habit, begin to pump the rights of real Europeans, then the intonation of European songs about "democracy" towards Ukraine will change.
    1. vnuss
      vnuss April 11 2016 11: 43
      0
      Bandera do not forgive insults, the results of the referendum will be lustrated in Europe.
      We are waiting!
  26. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 11 2016 10: 49
    0
    Well, if they promised, then of course, visas must be canceled. The question is where the Europeans themselves will flee when Bandera and Arabs begin to divide Europe. That's where the explosive mixture comes out.
  27. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 11 2016 10: 53
    +1
    Madmen, they think all the doors are open for them there. Naive Khokhlyad children.
    1. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian April 11 2016 11: 32
      0
      Yes, they think so. What is there for them here at university, jobs with higher salaries than average, social apartments with a view of the Tower ... Nothing, look ...
  28. umka571
    umka571 April 11 2016 10: 56
    +2
    Americans strangle the geyropu. The worse the geyropa, the better the amers, they don’t need a strong geyropa with their eureka. Amers need to promote their dollar, not Eureka
  29. HAM
    HAM April 11 2016 11: 00
    +4
    Soon, very soon, Brussels will offer Moscow a lot of money, not a miserable 3 billion dollars (like the Turks) hi , just for Moscow to take the "brothers" back ..
    1. Pavel Tsybai
      Pavel Tsybai April 11 2016 12: 11
      0
      And it is necessary to act as the Turks of the Eureka to take and send all.
  30. iliya87
    iliya87 April 11 2016 11: 04
    +3
    Yes, reservations can be any number. The EU will make it so that only those who need it can enter. They will put a restriction that entry is visa-free but there must be at least 2000 euros in the account in a European bank. And that's all. To cut a number of significant sub-flaps, but to yell with all your mouth, look, visa-free entry is 100% American.
  31. volodya
    volodya April 11 2016 11: 05
    +2
    Quote: mivmim
    Reuters: EU may introduce visa-free regime for Ukrainians with some reservations

    In the Netherlands, it was a whip. And now they decided to sweeten them with gingerbread, otherwise suddenly the outskirts will be asked back, under the wing of Russia.

    With the help of the EU and America, they ruined Ukraine, and now back to Russia? Well, no, they themselves ruined and restored? Let it be better to go to Europe.
  32. BOB044
    BOB044 April 11 2016 11: 06
    +6
    Reuters: EU may introduce visa-free regime for Ukrainians with some reservations
    Well now hold on to Europe. As the saying goes, where a Ukrainian went to a Jew, there is nothing to do. hi
  33. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha April 11 2016 11: 08
    +4
    Well, the Netherlands can ignore the decision of Junker and all the American lackeys from the geyropa and not let the Ukrorfashists in.
  34. mamont5
    mamont5 April 11 2016 11: 09
    +1
    The dillmen do not understand that "visa-free" does not solve anything (if they still give it). Earlier, they gave a visa - they go, if they didn’t give it, they don’t go. And now, you can go at any time, but ... at the border "stop the car" and without explanation.
  35. Maks-80
    Maks-80 April 11 2016 11: 18
    +4
    I can imagine what the EU will be like when 20 million Svidomo people pour in at once. wassat The current Muslim refugees in the EU seem like a fairy tale laughing
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat April 11 2016 11: 31
      0
      As you have with the scale ... not very. Where can Ukraine get those 20 Lyamas of the population that can "rush"? There, at best, a couple of hundred thousand have the possibility of Euro tours for another week ... and here you half of the country immediately halved. ))
  36. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 11 2016 11: 23
    +4
    Brother Rabbit was handed over for this indulgence. He is leaving first.
  37. vnuss
    vnuss April 11 2016 11: 26
    +1
    After Yatsenyuk "resigned", the visa-free regime for Ukraine became even more obvious in violation of all "referendums" and common sense.
    It's a pity the Dutch - so shamefully humiliate ...
    It seems that the US is using Europe as an "obscene" girl.
  38. X Y Z
    X Y Z April 11 2016 11: 27
    +6
    Europeans need a lesson. If you open the borders for Svidomo, then all these gopaks, agitation and bike rides in embroidered shirts, from which the Dutch simply fooled, seem like children's games. But when a crowd of banderlogs rushes here, there will be no time for jokes. Let in their own skin (although Europe is very sorry) understand what they have created. It will be a good refugee supplement.
  39. Taygerus
    Taygerus April 11 2016 11: 37
    0
    this, well, it turns out, then again they will blame Russia for the influx of kaklov into the geyropa and look for our army of formidable Buryats near Kiev laughing
  40. atamankko
    atamankko April 11 2016 11: 50
    0
    These jumps and tricks of the EU and ukrov do not touch me, I'm tired.
  41. pts-m
    pts-m April 11 2016 11: 57
    0
    There is nowhere to go for their beggars in the geyrop, now the coughers will come with outstretched hands to the porch of their temples. You will look and begin to help the need. They will still, maybe from Russia, these cockroaches-cougars stretch to the shores of the North Sea and the Foggy Albion.
  42. Kaban4ik
    Kaban4ik April 11 2016 12: 01
    +6
    A bunch of comments, but not one from a Ukrainian. I will be the first. Guys, we are well aware that we do not need a visa-free regime. Everyone who wants to travel west - drive. You go to the embassy, ​​bring papers, get a visa (sometimes you don’t get it). All ! Those who didn’t go outside the aisles of their native village will not go anywhere even though you ... they don’t know what to compare with, they won’t go any shorter.
    The only people who hold on to the abolition of visas are the guys from western Ukraine - they all work there a long time ago and they have never seen the Ukrainian work book. Naturally, no one paid taxes at home either, and if they paid, they forced me to.
    In general, why am I all this - if this uncle makes a statement, then no one promised us that they would support him. And if they support it, it will not come into force soon.
    1. reservist
      reservist April 11 2016 13: 18
      0
      Quote: Kaban4ik
      The only people who hold on to the abolition of visas are the guys from western Ukraine - they all work there a long time ago and they have never seen the Ukrainian work book. Naturally, no one paid taxes at home either, and if they paid, they forced me to.

      a visa-free regime does not give the right to work legally, so they do not seem to pay taxes in Europe either ...
    2. Senior manager
      Senior manager April 11 2016 15: 43
      0
      Put a plus, Visa-free regime is an ordinary carrot in front of the expression, a crystal dream, if you want. And after the fulfillment of a dream, there will be nothing to dream about. How will people in Ukraine continue to live?
  43. okunevich_rv
    okunevich_rv April 11 2016 12: 22
    0
    The main reservation on a visa-free regime, Ukraine to accept all refugees who came to Europe, and do not go to your mothers
  44. 7 poplar
    7 poplar April 11 2016 12: 34
    0
    in case of an influx of migrants !!! they are just waiting for how to open the borders! and ALL kapets Europe !!!
  45. Obolensky
    Obolensky April 11 2016 12: 55
    0
    Yeah, the main thing is visa-free regime. And the rest is on the side. They for this and rode on the Maidan.
  46. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 11 2016 12: 57
    0
    In a couple of years, when UKRAINIANS will cheat on Geyrope by virtue of their natural servile perception, what interesting barriers and methods will they be uprooted and taken to their homeland ..
  47. George 275
    George 275 April 11 2016 13: 25
    0
    With some reservations, when crossing each Khokhlov, carry at least 10000 thousand euros. Welcome.
    1. Kaban4ik
      Kaban4ik April 11 2016 14: 09
      +2
      Zero too much. 1000 - 2000 euros per month of stay. This is not accurate information, but something like that. Even for Germany it is good money.
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian April 11 2016 18: 04
        0
        1000 euros in Rome for 3 days flew away (for 2 noses)
        1. Kaban4ik
          Kaban4ik April 11 2016 19: 09
          0
          3000 was enough for 2 months Germany - Malta. But on the first trip of 1500 for two somewhere the same way, 3-4 days)))
          1. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian April 11 2016 19: 50
            0
            100 euros per day is the budget of a vacationer in Europe.
      2. Oleg Monarchist
        Oleg Monarchist April 11 2016 19: 21
        0
        That is, bring 1000-2000 euros with you, earn 1000-2000 euros with the best deal, spend 3000 euros on accommodation, come to Ukraine and give out debts 1000-2000 euros (if you earn 1000-2000 euros in Ukraine, why the hell go to the European Union to earn money, money is most likely borrowed) ..... Is this the kind of business that is? laughing
  48. dvg1959
    dvg1959 April 11 2016 13: 50
    0
    There are few migrants from the Middle East in Europe. Now there will still be a lot of frostbitten guest workers from Ukraine.
    How they will deal with them.
    In general, they roll along an inclined plane.
    Shocks in Europe are inevitable.
    1. Kaban4ik
      Kaban4ik April 11 2016 14: 25
      +1
      Well this is already offensive! The frostbitten ones won't go far. A multitude - where did you get that "multitude" will explode there?
      Europe will digest the wave of emigrants as it did before. Arabs, Turks, Jews, people from African countries, the wave of our times of perestroika and after the collapse. Their children speak the languages ​​of those countries in which their parents settled, and in their native language they can express it in an illiterate way. This is the main, overwhelming mass. The grandchildren of these migrants are already finally Europeanizing, if I may say so.
      And the main difference between us Ukrainians is that we work. If the majority of migrants rushed to Germany for benefits and, in principle, are not going to work there, then we will revenge the courtyards, wash the elderly (there someone wrote above about this), do the hard work, but work! Get paid for labor. And I am not unfounded, there has already been a precedent with this. In the late 90s there was a problem to smack because we were not allowed to work because we worked for half the salary than the Europeans! We did not bully in the streets, did not sit on benefits, there was no violence on our part - people just worked.
      1. Oleg Monarchist
        Oleg Monarchist April 11 2016 16: 44
        +1
        Quote: Kaban4ik
        Well this is already offensive! The frostbitten ones won't go far. A multitude - where did you get that "multitude" will explode there?
        Europe will digest the wave of emigrants as it did before. Arabs, Turks, Jews, people from African countries, the wave of our times of perestroika and after the collapse. Their children speak the languages ​​of those countries in which their parents settled, and in their native language they can express it in an illiterate way. This is the main, overwhelming mass. The grandchildren of these migrants are already finally Europeanizing, if I may say so.
        And the main difference between us Ukrainians is that we work. If the majority of migrants rushed to Germany for benefits and, in principle, are not going to work there, then we will revenge the courtyards, wash the elderly (there someone wrote above about this), do the hard work, but work! Get paid for labor. And I am not unfounded, there has already been a precedent with this. In the late 90s there was a problem to smack because we were not allowed to work because we worked for half the salary than the Europeans! We did not bully in the streets, did not sit on benefits, there was no violence on our part - people just worked.


        Moldova already has a visa-free regime with the EU, also with reservations, namely: when crossing the border, a Moldovan must have 1500 euros, a biometric passport, a return ticket, residence vouchers or an invitation when traveling to friends and relatives or at a conference. The consular departments of the embassies of European states recommend Moldovan citizens to get medical insurance. laughing
        The Ukrainians have already unveiled a "mitten" .... Now, how can we "rush" to Ivropa, how can we earn agro-money? laughing

        And the main difference between us Ukrainians is that we work.


        Yeah .... where? For example, Russians go to Europe to spend money earned in Russia, Ukrainians earn money, because they cannot work and earn money in Ukraine. Do you see the difference?

        1. Kaban4ik
          Kaban4ik April 11 2016 17: 05
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          Super! Percentages of 60 - 55))) Funny!)))) Pleased)))
          And now on the case. Guys where? - At the construction site. Is something being repaired? - Something being repaired / built. So they work. But labor is paid.
          My advice to you. Take a ticket, get a visa and go straight to Berlin! Go see the ghettos there. You will not find ours there (Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians), only "well-fried". Ours are all at the very least, and some of them live on a grand scale in normal areas, drive cars, and do not hesitate to visit Malta in winter. And try to get them out of there!
          "Russians - spend, Ukrainians - earn" - do not get excited. I gave an example in my own country, but I know perfectly well that you will not refuse such an opportunity. And you know perfectly well that a person of a related profession in Europe feels himself much better.
          Moldovans - they have not yet grown to EU standards, but you look and they will succeed! Guys go for it! And these papers are a perfectly reasonable move. For a person traveling to see, secured and without background, these pieces of paper to collect nonsense. Maximum 2 days "at own expense". Insurance?! Well, call me ... Medicine is paid ... They have it that way.
          1. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian April 11 2016 18: 02
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            Again, you clearly see the pleasing to your eye. Car by the way in Europe is not a symbol of prosperity.
          2. Oleg Monarchist
            Oleg Monarchist April 11 2016 18: 03
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            Quote: Kaban4ik
            Super! Percentages of 60 - 55))) Funny!)))) Pleased)))
            And now on the case. Guys where? - At the construction site. Is something being repaired? - Something being repaired / built. So they work. But labor is paid.


            So you don’t understand where they work? In Ukraine, in Modavia? No, in Russia or in the EU. Have you seen brigades of Russian guest workers in Ukraine, in Moldova or in the same EU? No

            My advice to you. Take a ticket, get a visa and go straight to Berlin! Go see the ghettos there. You will not find ours there (Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians), only "well-fried". Ours are all at the very least, and some of them live on a grand scale in normal areas, drive cars, and do not hesitate to visit Malta in winter. And try to get them out of there!


            What for reinvent the wheel? Buy tickets, get a visa yourself? I paid money to a travel agency, went for a week and returned. I was in this Germany, the year in 2011. And they have enough homeless people and drunks and other muddy personalities. These are only our homegrown liberals and your Ukrainians believe that elves live there in a magical fairy forest laughing

            "Russians - spend, Ukrainians - earn" - do not get excited. I gave an example in my own country, but I know perfectly well that you will not refuse such an opportunity. And you know perfectly well that a person of a related profession in Europe feels himself much better.


            I feel not bad here ... in Russia. And I’m not going to go to the EU, especially to earn money.

            Moldovans - they have not yet grown to EU standards, but you look and everything will turn out for them! Guys go for it!


            So they dare ... go to the EU and Moldovans and Ukrainians ... are impoverished every day

            But these papers are a completely reasonable move. For a person traveling to see, secured and without background these pieces of paper will collect nonsense.


            For a person traveling to see and provided, the abolition of visas is NOT fundamental, especially for a trip he absolutely does not need to smash his country, burn tires, start a civil war ... Something like that.

            Maximum 2 days "at own expense". Insurance?! Well, call me ... Medicine is paid ... They have it that way.

            When buying a tour, pay insurance. I do not resent paid medicine.
            But Moldovans and Ukrainians are outraged, because they believed that now there will be a "freebie", that is, at the expense of the European Union. Naive ... laughing
            1. Kaban4ik
              Kaban4ik April 11 2016 19: 30
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              There is one big problem - people do not know which way they are running. They are driven by the "shepherds", but they are running.
              1) No matter where they work, the fact itself is important - people are not dependents.
              2) It doesn’t matter whether you are on a tour or on a private trip - you need to go to the embassy. Well, or not to the embassy itself, but to the visa center. Not important. It is important that you pass the test for lice.
              I’m not saying that there is an earthly paradise, I’m talking about that, other things being equal, in half or even more cases, your colleague, there, would have earned more. I am talking about wage workers, the ordinary middle class.
              3) I have absolutely the same opinion - I feel good at home. But there are few like you and me. As for those who are ready for "a lot", there are few such people.
              Well, not to go to the EU just so as not to go there, somehow, as I understand your words, everyone decides for himself.
              4) This is generally a slippery issue. I will not pick it up.
              5) I wrote the same thing above about the visa regime. And tires and other ugliness - this is for the "shepherds". I think there is no need to explain why they burned them. The civil war is generally a separate conversation.
              6) People corny do not know what awaits them there. "They said on TV - that means everything will be gut." Something like that.

              PS
              I do not specifically raise the topic of "civil war" and impoverishment, this is an extremely complex and multifaceted issue. Who is interested I can discuss, but not here)))
      2. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian April 11 2016 17: 57
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        And from experience I saw a completely different thing, yes, your fellow countrymen are working, but somehow the sisters ’ability to pay a benefit or getting into crime somehow no longer breaks. And yes, immigrants from the 90s never assimilate — they come not together with Europeans, but instead of Europeans.
  49. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow April 11 2016 15: 32
    +1
    Come ride !!! And the more, the better. Maybe they will quickly understand what's what. Or maybe they will catch up to the level of maydanutyh.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 April 11 2016 17: 22
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      Quote: serezhasoldatow
      Come ride !!! ...

      Let them go. Only who will let them go there!
      They have been rushing there for two years, but so far they have not reached the EU.
      The place where they got does not correspond to the name of the EU country, and on the website for the exact address of the location of Ukraine, they can also be banned.
  50. bolik
    bolik April 11 2016 17: 01
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    Yes, only there would be something to go! To begin with, the EU must pay pensions and European earnings.
    By the way, what is European earnings in general Swedish and German or Romanian and Polish?
    Which one to go? where? I myself have been sitting in Sweden since childhood, it so happened that my parents brought here
    to hell I saw here our guest workers. Units found only work here and then black if you
    do not know the local language and / or not an awesome special in anything, then you are on "" "" there is no one who needs it.
    All the "stupid" work the Poles crushed for themselves 10 years ago, so if only to work for the pan-Poles
    on black and all.