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Tricky comments. G7 in G8: a bun with jam or without?

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On the eve of the summit, now the G7 in Hiroshima, German Foreign Minister Steinmeier broke out at once with several statements that the German media quite willingly picked up.


Tricky comments. G7 in G8: a bun with jam or without?


Mr. Steinmeier told the Zeit newspaper that none of the major international conflicts can be resolved without Russia, and the events in Syria and Russia's actions in resolving the conflict can be described as active and fruitful. He also expressed the hope that soon it will be possible to switch from the G7 format to the G8.

It would seem, it came at last. An, no. Probably according to the principle of "do not sigh," the German minister immediately recovered.

"I would like for us not to remain in the G7 format for long, but to create conditions for the return to G8. But this year there are none yet."

"In a year we will see if the role of Russia will remain just as constructive, and then the G7 member countries will discuss when its return will be possible and what conditions for this must be fulfilled."


Well, and so it all began ... The enlightenment of understanding remained a ray of hope, flashed among the black clouds of misunderstanding and frank obstinacy.

For another year, the G-7 countries will look after Russia and think. Evaluate. Pretend. Develop conditions.

By the way, the key word here is “conditions”. That is, the "Seven" will also set the conditions for the return of Russia to this, if I may say so, "club for talk."

Now about obstinacy and misunderstanding.

Mr. Steinmeier does not understand what Mr. Lavrov perfectly understands.

And in his time, Mr. Lavrov said that Russia “does not cling to the format of the G8.” Eight ”is an informal club, nobody draws out membership cards there, no one can kick out anyone there by definition. If our Western partners think that the format has outlived itself, then so be it. We do not cling to it. "

On the topic "and we need it?" quite a lot has been said. And the understanding that it is not particularly necessary is rooted in Russian heads for a long time. Indeed, who is in the “seven”?

USA, Germany, Canada, Japan, France, UK, Italy.

And who there (hypothetically) can squeak independently? Well, let's leave Germany and Japan alone, the guys are under soft occupation, no complaints. The United Kingdom is also clear, like a pound sterling, never considered a friend. But at least honestly, without masking. Canada ... those are still lambs. Mooing without waiting for the team from the south. France and Italy ... mda ...

And, sorry, you can communicate directly with the United States. In the framework of the usual bilateral summit. And it is not necessary to stir up these summits for this. Agree on protocols, approving compositions, driving planes, making all these expensive moves. The crisis in the world, as it were ...

Moreover, the result of a pompous talker, even at the highest level, can be none.

Bun with jam. This is if the German, since the words of the Germans began to dance. Summit is an English term. And the Germans it sounds like "Gipfel". Bun puff with cherry or cheese.

Why does Mr. Steinmeier not understand that participation in a bun, it doesn’t matter, in the role of dough or filling is not a primary goal for Russia? So it is clear that without Russia it is rather fresh. Definitely the role of Russia is the filling, because in the test all the vassals of the United States are already involved. Layers. Something is needed that will relieve the vainness of the dough.

But who needs it? It is necessary for the "seven" to give the bun a look that is not an unmarried plow with a foreman. But then what kind of conditions are Mr. Steinmeier talking about?

Crimea? Not funny. The withdrawal of troops from the territory of Ukraine? It is also not funny, but I think that Russian troops could be withdrawn from the territory of Ukraine. Provided that the gentlemen of the "seven" will find them there.

Of course, for the year you can come up with the conditions. The main thing is that at least someone in Russia agrees to consider them. This is the main condition, not the conditions themselves.

In May, in Hiroshima, this very gepfel without a filling will take place. And what will they discuss there?

And the agenda is most amusing.

It is said that the main topics of the meeting in Hiroshima will be the fight against international terrorism, the situation in the South China Sea, as well as issues of nuclear disarmament.

The fight against international terrorism. Good. Indeed, there is something to discuss. For example, how it was possible for two years to detain terrorists in Syria, that the situation became more and more critical every day. And yes, these issues can be discussed without Russia. Russia has shown that it can easily handle itself in terms of the destruction of terrorists.

And definitely without Russia, it is necessary to discuss what is happening today in Europe. Complete impotence of the European special services and law enforcement agencies - what is not a topic for conversation? Especially as Europeans pay a bit overpriced with their lives for broken excavators. There are, in short, what to talk about.

The situation in the South China Sea. Yes, the situation is not so simple, but I'm sorry, but where is the European component? France, Italy, UK, Germany? What is there to discuss what is in the interests of the United States and Japan? Demonstrate loyalty to the overlord, nothing more.

Nuclear disarmament. This is generally an epic theme. Here you can talk a lot. But. Against whom will we disarm? Against Russia? Funny, right? Now, if the question was about the expansion of NATO, the deployment of a missile defense system, or something else, then the absence of Russia is completely justified. Indeed, what is the point of inviting the one against whom everything is directed?

I do not think that the seven-men plan to disarm unilaterally. It is clear that everything is very neglected, but this is not to be expected of them. And without Russia to discuss this issue is just silly. By the way, as without China.

As a result, all this G7 today is nothing more than a political talker without any serious consequences. Puff pastry without filling. Nedogipfel. And for it to become a full-fledged product, Russia's participation is necessary.

However, no one there, in the "seven", for some reason, does not think about the question whether Russia will begin to fulfill the conditions necessary for its return to this company.

And, by the way, did it only occurred to me that Russia could have their conditions for return?
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  1. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 April 12 2016 06: 11
    +25
    G7 - and so it’s not seven, but G6.5, because Canada is not a country, but a governor general!
    But seriously, who naive said to them that we could not tolerate it?
    1. Finches
      Finches April 12 2016 06: 17
      +52
      All the same, the level of hypocrisy among the Americans is off the charts, and the Japanese have long lost their sense of self-respect - Obama has pinned himself on Hiroshima, which was wiped off the face of the earth by nuclear bombings and those who miraculously survived all this are still alive and behave like a beach director, and are "proud" the children of the sun helpfully smile ...! And otherwise, all this pretentious seven is a circus and nothing more!
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich April 12 2016 06: 41
        +10
        Quote: Finches
        And the rest is all this pathos seven - a circus and more!

        All this in the western language is called democracy. wink lol winked
        1. KOH
          KOH April 12 2016 08: 04
          +7
          Why do we need GE 7 in this? ... to become the 8th GE? ...
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 April 12 2016 08: 21
            +32
            KVNshiki is still great ... video for two years and still relevant ... laughing
            1. Sorokin
              Sorokin April 12 2016 11: 18
              +10
              Thanks laughed. Alaska in the subject.
          2. Razvedka_Boem
            Razvedka_Boem April 12 2016 17: 09
            +2
            Without "e" .. just "G" ..)
      2. afrikanez
        afrikanez April 12 2016 11: 48
        +10
        And the question is, what the hell is all this to us? Let them cook themselves in their "hodgepodge". For the money spent on the trip to G?, It is better to make another Armata.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC April 14 2016 13: 40
          +1
          You have too good opinions about our functionaries, for this money you can make more than one armature.
      3. trantor
        trantor April 12 2016 13: 55
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        Obama landed in Hiroshima, which was wiped off the face of the earth by nuclear bombing and those who miraculously survived all this are still alive, and behave like a beach director, and the "proud" children of the sun helpfully smile ...!

        So they believe that it was the USSR that bombed them.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets April 12 2016 08: 13
      +17
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      we can not stand there?

      "Russia has shown that it can quite cope on its own in terms of eliminating terrorists."

      More precisely, Russia has shown that it is better than with such "allies". yes
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 12 2016 09: 32
      +11
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      G7 - and so it’s not seven, but G6.5, because Canada is not a country, but a governor general!

      Rather, this bunch should be called G1 + 6 of its sixes, so it will be more true.

      For another year, the G-7 countries will look after Russia and think. Evaluate. Pretend. Develop conditions.

      We know their conditions, let them go through the forest G1 and its vassals.
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt April 12 2016 11: 33
      +6
      It looks like there is no one to talk to at the GXNUMX without Russia laughing The USA and their "six" remained.
      1. Bath
        Bath April 12 2016 11: 50
        +7
        The new version of the budget rule will restrain the ruble appreciation in case of oil price fluctuations, said Finance Minister Anton Siluanov. In his opinion, we do not need such “raw material growth”

        “We prepared a gift in honor of my birthday - a new version of the budget rule, according to which we will withdraw all the additional income that should be received, if there are high oil prices, in the Reserve Fund,” said Finance Minister Anton Siluanov at the Stock Exchange Forum, Held on Tuesday, April 12th. According to him, this “will not allow the strengthening of the ruble and the negative impact of changes in oil prices on the prospects for economic growth, inflation, interest rates, etc.”

        “We do not need such growth - in price, in raw materials,” Siluanov summed up.

        The main consequence of rising oil prices is the strengthening of the ruble, due to which the competitiveness of our industries may decrease, and the structure and quality of growth will deteriorate, Siluanov explained.
        US and without the eight there is someone to listen to the strong ruble turns out to be great evil there is for the Russians you understand America’s bulk agent and Siluanov is the ideological fighter father of Russian democracy and a person close to the emperor))) A thief sits on a thief and chases a thief
        1. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 April 12 2016 16: 10
          +5
          Why is this Siluanov, by definition the enemy of the people, still controls my finances? How long will it be in power?
          1. Alf
            Alf April 12 2016 19: 04
            +2
            Quote: Saratoga833
            How long will it be in power?

            As long as THIS POWER is in power.
          2. ver_
            ver_ April 13 2016 12: 13
            +1
            ... do you have the finances that you gave Siluanov? ..
        2. Ljubomir
          Ljubomir April 12 2016 20: 15
          +2
          according to which we will withdraw all additional income that should be received, if there are high oil prices, to the Reserve Fund

          Again Kudrinsky sending our income to American banks. Tribute is a tribute.
        3. Antropos
          Antropos April 13 2016 10: 54
          0
          About thieves is a separate song. But the essence is true: a strong rupe is harmful to our economy. If the course towards the buck drops to 40 or less, we will return to the commodity economy again, without CX (in the first place) and mechanical engineering in general.
          1. vsidorov
            vsidorov April 14 2016 16: 17
            0
            support
        4. vsidorov
          vsidorov April 14 2016 16: 16
          +1
          in the event that these "withdrawn" surpluses will go to investments in important production projects, in the development of road and social infrastructure - this is great.
    6. Edvagan
      Edvagan April 12 2016 15: 05
      +2
      Russia's situation with the GXNUMX is increasingly reminiscent of the fairy tale "The Wolf and the Seven Kids". Moreover, "Goats" is a verb.
    7. go21zd45few
      go21zd45few April 12 2016 16: 42
      +4
      Russia is constantly required to withdraw troops from Donbass where there are facts of the presence of RF troops, because you gentlemen have intelligence that is able to give the numbers of military units, the names of commanders, the names of regiments, and the availability of equipment. If you cannot provide such data then close the blower and not the siphon, that is, keep silent in a rag.
    8. Andrey Petrov47
      Andrey Petrov47 April 13 2016 01: 03
      +1
      It should be emphasized that there are five more sixes of the United States.
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 12 2016 06: 13
    +3
    Do we need a G8? Our entry conditions: 1 .... 2 .... 3 ...
    1. larand
      larand April 12 2016 07: 53
      +5
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Do we need a G8?

      Seven people who consider themselves cool think that the Russian Federation will agree to the role of a goldsmith in order to clean up feces around them around the world. They also want to establish a probationary period for the goldsmith.
      1. the villain
        the villain April 12 2016 21: 05
        +1
        Quote: larand
        remove feces from them around the world.

        Only if for the purpose - to shove them these feces back into the ass, but with interest, of which many have already run hi
  3. ovod84
    ovod84 April 12 2016 06: 16
    +6
    But why enter there at all, these countries simply communicate on their own, the United States and its sixes sit at the table and talk nicely about world politics, Ukraine is missing there.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov April 12 2016 09: 38
      +1
      And her sixes are sitting at the table and talking sweetly about world politics, Ukraine is missing there ,,
      I think it’s necessary to throw the idea in Pets, as it were, without the “world” power, fray things.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 12 2016 06: 23
    +3
    In a year we will see

    And then we'll see again, then again, etc. When they realized that Russia feels great without the G-8 and that it is normally (and often unilaterally) solving foreign policy problems, they decided to show the carrot from a distance. But our country wants this seven of the "sixes" to take into account its opinion and listen to it. And if not, then walk around hand in hand and not solve more than one serious problem.
  5. ImPerts
    ImPerts April 12 2016 06: 25
    +4
    There is G20. Nafig us this G7-8?
    If only it is important to sit under the lenses with the owners of the "golden billion"? So there the guy on the gay and sir drives.
    Not the best neighborhood.
  6. Same lech
    Same lech April 12 2016 06: 28
    +5
    And by the way, did it only occur to me that Russia could have its own conditions for returning?


    Glory to GOD self-esteem began to return to the souls of citizens of our country after the Gorbachev and Yeltsin years of rule ...
    one of the achievements of PUTIN (for this I respect this person) ... the truth is, with the mass of unresolved other problems in our society, they will have to be solved for a long time by evolutionary means.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 12 2016 16: 07
      +4
      Lech, I slammed you a minus. Explain to me, what for Putin 12 years sought in the WTO?
  7. parusnik
    parusnik April 12 2016 06: 31
    +4
    Do not nat and do not nat for nothing and with the conditions do not nat ..
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 12 2016 06: 44
    +19
    We have nothing to do there ...
  9. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery April 12 2016 06: 48
    +4
    G7 is a club of like-minded people, besides presenting themselves as a world elite (white people). We are not like-minded to the West, we have a different mentality, and also not very white (more all the same speckled). Therefore, let them go to # opu with their eight.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 April 12 2016 09: 01
      +2
      Quote: Amurets
      Mr. Steinmeier told the Zeit newspaper that none of the major international conflicts can be resolved without Russia.

      Yes, the United States unleashes international conflicts with the help of like-minded people, and Russia decides.
      G7-club of like-minded people G7 -one thought from the United States, which is picked up by six sixes.
      The task of the club of like-minded people is to make a fuss to declare their involvement in the end of the conflict.
      Take the same Syria, if there were no "coalitions" there, the conflict had already ended, and most likely there weren't even so many victims.
    2. the villain
      the villain April 12 2016 21: 17
      +2
      Quote: Valery Valery
      G7 is a like-minded club

      The bottom line is that they are masturbators, they seem to make some kind of body movements, and there’s more than enough pathos, but they can’t generate anything sensible, hi
  10. Lelek
    Lelek April 12 2016 07: 02
    +6
    (And by the way, did it only occur to me that Russia could have its own conditions for returning?)

    Mandatory. And by the way, not one or two. yes
  11. Senior manager
    Senior manager April 12 2016 07: 09
    +6
    The absence of Russia in this political booth greatly reduces its significance. The cheeks are inflated, and the output is zeros. And really chatting with the boss and sixes is more productive in a two-way format.
  12. wandlitz
    wandlitz April 12 2016 07: 14
    +2
    They decided to return Russia due to the dissonance of the format, G7 in Russian is the USA + "six". Europe does not want to be officially listed in the six,
    in sevens it is "nicer".
    1. Seryoga DV
      Seryoga DV April 12 2016 07: 58
      +3
      nothing will come of Europe, there will be the USA, Russia and their six)
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 April 12 2016 07: 33
    +5
    There can be only one answer: "DO we need IT ?!"
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 12 2016 07: 38
    +1
    "In a year we will see if the role of Russia will remain just as constructive, and then the G7 member countries will discuss when its return will be possible and what conditions for this must be fulfilled."

    How many take on yourself, gentlemen, the obsolete capitalists! It’s just right for us to think about how to fix our schools, and not to die from the refugees you love!
    And we ourselves somehow, without snotty, will figure out how to move on and the main thing with KEM! laughing
  15. Amurets
    Amurets April 12 2016 07: 42
    +4
    Mr. Steinmeier told the Zeit newspaper that none of the major international conflicts can be resolved without Russia.
    For this, these conflicts are brewed either without the participation of Russia, or ignoring Russia's warnings about what this will lead to. And then they ask Russia to pull the EU and the USA out of the next cesspool. They need to be sent to a practitioner so that the lower brains are blown out, and the upper ones are useless, who have liquefied, who have petrified. By the way, Obama finally recognized the overthrow of the Gaddafi clan as his main mistake
  16. forester
    forester April 12 2016 08: 03
    +8
    Exhale steinmeier, exhale !!! It wasn’t for the Russian president to hang out among the American sixes
  17. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 12 2016 08: 43
    +1
    Without Russia, no international organization is complete ...
  18. ruAlex
    ruAlex April 12 2016 10: 03
    +1
    Since they gathered in Hiroshima, it would be better if they talked about who bombed her.
    1. KOH
      KOH April 12 2016 10: 15
      +3
      Why not be surprised if the Americans come up with a new theory that the Japs bombed themselves ...
      1. Foofighter
        Foofighter April 12 2016 11: 22
        +1
        have already made it clear that "they are to blame" ... but "we both felt sorry" and "AND NOW WE HAVE A FRIENDSHIP UNION AND COOPERATION THAT NOBODY CANNOT DESTROY" ... the adult Japanese and their poor children looked like ragged chickens, despite their eastern isolation, smiling, could hardly restrain themselves ...
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        2. Foofighter
          Foofighter April 13 2016 03: 52
          0
          "mutually" - in the sense for himself and for the Japanese, so Kerry said before the visit, the rest by putting a seal on the Japanese woman's shoulder, already on camera with the children stunned by this
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  19. FIREMAN
    FIREMAN April 12 2016 11: 36
    +4
    To enter this congregation of the psiysk sixes, according to the principle: they are a new member and we are pleased, I see no practical sense. PPR principle: sat, talked and no more dispersed. Most likely, this advisory "body" does not make legally significant decisions, since there is no one confirming such powers. If GDP is needed and so with whom it is necessary to meet, it will be much more effective.
  20. dvg1959
    dvg1959 April 12 2016 12: 15
    +1
    Obviously, Russia needs the seven, not the seven of Russia.
    To unite with the seven, Russia must put forward its own conditions.
  21. Disorder
    Disorder April 12 2016 15: 22
    +1
    This is not the Seven - this is the United States and its sixes. laughing
  22. Forever so
    Forever so April 12 2016 15: 40
    +1
    Why does Mr. Steinmeier not understand that participation in a bun, it doesn’t matter, as a test or a filling is not a primary goal for Russia? So it’s clear that without Russia, it’s a bit shabby. The role of Russia is definitely the filling, because all the vassals of the United States are already involved in the test. In layers. Something is needed that will get rid of the freshness of the batch. (C)

    All these sixes, sevens and others, this is a puppet theater for a moron inhabitant. The most interesting thing is that no more than a dozen, just as many members on which talking heads can be pulled, have the two main planetary puppeteers playing a centuries-old performance for suckers. Unfortunately, Russia, alas, is not a puppeteer. Yes, and to hell with him, but that would not be a doll that is pulled.
  23. mayhem
    mayhem April 12 2016 16: 36
    0
    why do we need this G7 would have done G2 Russia and the United States, all the same there they all listen to the Americans!
  24. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem April 12 2016 17: 24
    0
    "G" is not needed .. The future is ahead.
  25. Arkan
    Arkan April 12 2016 18: 34
    0
    Seven is playing another farce. Continuous profanity.
  26. Kibl
    Kibl April 12 2016 19: 55
    0
    As a result, German Foreign Minister Steinmeier didn’t get to the gathering 7, the plane didn’t start! Ay! Ay! Six shawaks with a smoked leader all get angry, twitch, a lot of noise, a little sense. All the pairs went off the whistle!
  27. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 April 12 2016 21: 48
    0
    in my opinion, we now need to swing the economy as much as possible in order to make peace with the West, and, thereby, increase the pressure on Ukraine
  28. TT-33
    TT-33 April 12 2016 23: 57
    0
    Quote: siberalt
    It looks like there is no one to talk to at the GXNUMX without Russia laughing The USA and their "six" remained.


    XA-XA-XA !!! 5 + !!!!!
  29. Weyland
    Weyland April 13 2016 02: 29
    +1
    G7 vs Russia:
    "The Vyatskys are Hail guys: seven for one - we are not afraid of anyone, but one on one - we will return all the knapsacks!"
  30. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs April 13 2016 08: 13
    0
    Invite may be invited, but whether Russia wants to forget the insult. Twice do not enter one water.
  31. Naum
    Naum April 13 2016 10: 18
    0
    Do not go back to where you put it. This is humiliation. But to offer these clever people to get together for an official meeting in Yalta, in the Livadia Palace, perhaps it’s worth it))))
    Something, by the way, is not heard of the SCO and BRICS. Blown away?
  32. karakuin
    karakuin April 13 2016 10: 53
    0
    Putin is doing the right thing. It does not give defective semi-travelers the reasons for creating insinuations. Well, grunted once about the fact that Russia isolates itself and was blown away. They were told that theirs is not interesting for us with G, and again they want G to return us to this. Some kind of politics is excessively fragrant. Do they have a terror problem in Europe? I recommend that you pray for Kadyrov’s consent to head the Brussels skit.
  33. Orionvit
    Orionvit April 13 2016 15: 20
    0
    Quote: CON
    Why do we need GE 7 in this? ... to become the 8th GE? ...

    I remembered the old KVN joke of the 90s, when Russia as a "six" was accepted into the seven. - "The wolf and the seven kids", and the "kids" is a verb. - Now Russia itself "goats" all, and these "kids" really don't like it.
  34. dzerzhinsky
    dzerzhinsky April 14 2016 09: 49
    0
    Well, why does everyone in the west think that we are dreaming of joining the G7? Who told them that? Why do we need it? She no longer has any influence in the world (and will not).
    G7 is the USA + six of its puppets(Woof woof). And Russia solves all global issues directly with the United States.
    Therefore, the GXNUMX is simply an absurd organization, especially considering the membership of such a "powerful and influential" country as Canada.
  35. Bash-kurt
    Bash-kurt April 14 2016 12: 08
    0
    Let the seven do not wait. If necessary, we will have our own seven, even pick a ten.