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Warsaw on the 6 anniversary of the crash near Smolensk again looking for the Kremlin’s hand

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By definition, our Polish "friends" could not get around such a date as April 10. Along with Katyn, the day of the crash of the Tu-154 with the first persons of the Polish state on board (10 of April 2010) near Smolensk became a sort of episode of Polish self-identity - at least the self-identity of those who are willing to substitute concepts and distortion stories look for some political dividends for yourself. And if the state has no other reason to try to send its policy, except for the conspiratorial reasons pulled by the ears, then the state is doomed to eternal picking in the style of "the enemy does not sleep." And the enemy is in the understanding of the modern political elites of Poland, of course, Russia, which, again in the understanding of the Polish elites, literally sleeps and sees how to destroy the Polish statehood, and turn the deported democrats into “Kremlin slaves”.


And these very slaves of cockroaches in their own heads on the sixth anniversary of the crash of the first airfield of Poland near the Smolensk-Severny airfield decided once again to divert the attention of the country's population from the problems associated with the fact that the Polish leadership finally signed for its direct dependence on the Central Directorate from the Greater Washington DC brother How to distract? Yes, simply declare that all the previously published findings of the investigative commissions, and even the conclusion of the special commission, which worked under the authority of ex-premier Donald Tusk, you see, is falsification.

It is necessary to recall the findings of numerous expert groups and commissions dealing with the Tu-154 crash case, on board of which there was then Polish President Lech Kaczynski with his wife and several dozen representatives of the Polish authorities.

Warsaw on the 6 anniversary of the crash near Smolensk again looking for the Kremlin’s hand


Of materials Supreme Control Chamber of Poland on March 9 2012 of the year:
It was found that since 2005, the visits of the Polish leadership using the special air transport of the country's air force have been carried out without observing the required level of security. There was a lack of a system of measures, and the existing rules were ignored in some cases, as in the 10 flight on April 2010. This flight should not have taken place in the form in which it was carried out.


It is, including the fact that the flight was, no matter how sad it may sound for many Poles, not a special flight (and the Polish delegation went to Smolensk to participate in mourning events in the Katyn Forest), but a sort of aviation accident during which high-ranking Polish officials poured in by the collar. Apparently, these same officials perceived the visit to the mourning events as a “fun party”, during which you can take on the chest and “have a good time” without much damage.

It was documented to be at the time of the crash in the cockpit of the Tu-154 pilots, who were under the influence of alcohol, the commander-in-chief of the Polish Air Force, Andrzej Blasik. It was Blasik with a mug, as he himself put it, a beer (recording voice recorders), in fact, gave the order to the pilots to land, despite the fact that the control tower informed the crew about the bad weather around the Smolensk-Severny airfield.

From the conversation with pilots Blasika:

The pilot for 15 minutes before the tragedy, meaning either returning or leaving for the alternate aerodrome (Vitebsk or Minsk):
Let's go back.

Blasik, demanding a landing in Smolensk:
It is a fact, we must do it, to the end. Do (fit) boldly.

Pilot:
What is this?

Blasik:
This is a beer. What are you, do not you drink? .. (...)

A stewardess, referring to an unidentified (by speech) person:
Will you drink

Third party:
Yes.

The report of the Interstate Aviation Committee states that there were no explosions or technical problems that 6 has been trying to repeat in Warsaw for all of the years on board the Tu-154. It did not happen. From the report POPPY:

The reasons for the crash of the Tu-154 aircraft belonging to the Polish Air Force are the crew’s erroneous actions: the decision to approach and the refusal to go to the second circle or alternate aerodrome in meteorological conditions worse than the established minimum, lower than the minimum allowable height in 100 m, and also ignoring the warning signals of the aircraft’s on-board systems about dangerous approach to the surface. The pilots made mistakes, being under pressure from the commander-in-chief of the Polish Air Force who was present in the cockpit. There are systemic flaws in the work and training of crew members while ensuring particularly important flight.

And now the head of the Polish Ministry of Defense, Anthony Maciesewicz (Anthony Maczerevich), on the TVP channel announces that in general everything is investigating, you know, “linden”, and that the “falsification” of the report on the causes of the crash Tu-154 took part (attention!) head (former) of the government of Donald Tusk. From the statement of the Minister of Defense of Poland (translation RIA News):
Tusk secured full control not only over the course of the investigation (in the case of the plane crash), but also over every decision of the state structures. Then he stated that he was fully responsible for everything that was in this case, what had been done, and the report was falsified, the falsification of the government report should have consequences.



Macherevich second from the left (red tie with polka dots)


Well, as if by a wave of a magic wand, Polish “experts”, including individual politicians, began the next stage of pseudo-analytical tinkering, in which statements about “bomb on board” and “conspiracy of Smolensk controllers” slip. To these delusions, the fact that Donald Tusk is almost an agent of the Kremlin who was engaged in the “liquidation of numerous Russian tracks” is added.

And none of these “outstanding experts” in their publications say that if the “bomb” (although its absence was proven by numerous examinations, including an examination conducted by the Polish experts themselves who had no relation to Tusk) would suddenly be on board, then she had to get there in Poland itself, from where it followed the first board to Smolensk. And if so, then Warsaw should ask about the flight preparation services and their professionalism. If we talk about the "dispatchers' conspiracy", their only "conspiracy" is that they tried as best they could to indirectly sober up Mr. Blasik, who rolled a beer and distributed orders to the crew, without any protocol right to do so.

Although, if you continue to plunge into that Polish conspiracy quagmire, which Macerevich mentioned uses with a clear eye on a set of political glasses for a loved one, then you can only once again be convinced of the existence of the main principle of the current Polish government. This principle is rabid Russophobia. It is she who, in the form of constantly scurrying cockroaches in Macczevic’s head and others like him, dictates fiction about a “conspiracy” against President Lech Kaczynski in 2010, calls for the demolition of monuments to Soviet soldiers, the liberators, without whom today neither Poland nor , there is an opinion, Mr. Macherevich too ... This is a rabid Russophobia and some of its active ideologists dictate Warsaw to deploy the American missile defense system on its territory, knowing full well that after this, Poland becomes a goal.

The fact is that April for the Polish leadership is the month of the most significant psychological and political aggravation, on the basis of which images of enemies in the east are drawn, although the real enemies of Poland and its people have long been seated in bureaucratic chairs in Warsaw itself and are actively warmed up by friends from the West.
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  1. Aleksander
    Aleksander April 11 2016 06: 12
    +11
    Warsaw on the 6 anniversary of the crash near Smolensk again looking for the Kremlin’s hand


    Let them look for the Russian birch yes
    1. Finches
      Finches April 11 2016 06: 23
      +6
      Poland, or rather all its leaders, have been rushing their whole history from the West to Russia and vice versa, not fully understanding that they are not particularly needed not there and not there - as a result of this, they developed a certain impairment in their consciousness and decided - that they all should! The West must, because they are laying in front of Russia, and Russia must, because they are laying in front of the West, but for some reason they do not catch up, that the main word here is GASKET ...! laughing
      1. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist April 11 2016 08: 42
        +16
        I apologize for getting ahead, but I think this is important.
        -------------------------------------------------- -----
        What preceded the disaster.
        1. Two years before the disaster, the commander of the presidential regiment flew with his crew to Ulyanovsk on a simulator. He got two points, on his return to Poland he convinced the command - there is no need to pay the Russians for the exercises, we can prepare ourselves. After that, the Poles did not train on the TU-154 simulator.
        2. He demanded that all of his pilots go to a radio altimeter from a height of 200m while the whole world does it at 100m.
        3. He taught all his crews, in difficult weather conditions, to use the “rat” technique when the plane descends below the lower edge of the cloud long before the near radio beacon and searches for a strip with his eyes.
        4. The cockpit during the flight was a courtyard, there are many voices in addition to the crew on the transcript, someone is explaining to someone the wing mechanization device, etc.
        5. Crew commander Arkadiusz Protasyuk (retrained from navigators) two years before had witnessed the dragging arranged by Kaczynski, the previous WS-101 crew commander Lt. Col. Petruchuk (if I remember correctly) a refusal to land in Tbilisi in flight in 2008 during the fighting in South Ossetia for security reasons (in addition to Kaczynski, there were two or three more presidents). The lieutenant colonel was dismissed with a bang, appointed Protasyuk. But in 2010, the young officer did not show firmness of character under the pressure of Blasik, did not leave for a spare.
        6. The crew before departure did not receive the weather in Smolensk, which gave reason to refuse to depart.
        7. Refueling was at two ends - an extra 11 tons.
        8. The President was late for an hour, as a result, with the Yak-40, which was supposed to carry the wreaths, these wreaths were loaded onto the 154th in the tail. Since they are lightweight, and the passengers eventually concentrated in the front of the cabin, the alignment was slightly shifted forward, which would be safe in another situation. Journalists flew off to the Yak-40. An hour earlier than the 154th.
        9. The flight plan was drawn up carelessly. In the check-box, the goals of the flight were plastered. The letter P - passenger, has been corrected for the letter M - military. This daub gives the Poles a reason to shout that the controller MUST have sent the board to the spare. At that time, when our controllers were instructed on the GOVERNMENT board, which should correspond to the letter G.
        10. In the fly plan, an alternate aerodrome - Vitebsk was indicated, which does not work on weekends.
        11. A few months before the flight, the Poles were asked not to land in Smolensk, since the airfield was old and equipped only with outdated simple radio beacons and a landing locator, the ILS did not have a system.
        12. The motorcade in AP Vitebsk was not prepared. In case of landing there would be a delay.
        13. In Smolensk in Katyn, TV men were waiting, there should have been a live report. This bothered the president, and therefore the FAC.
        1. Armored optimist
          Armored optimist April 11 2016 08: 43
          +14
          14. The crew was formed three days before the flight. There was no talk of any flaccidity. This forced the commander to take on more functions and overloaded him. In addition, he was the only one in the carriage who knew Russian.
          15. The crew was not one of the luminaries
          - Commander - raid 3531, on type 2906, 492 KVSom from July 15, 2008.
          - Co-pilot - raid 1909, on type 475 including navigator 281, 193 second
          - Navigator - raid 1070, on type 58, before that second on Yak-40 and light aircraft.
          - Flight engineer - 329 hours (!) Flight all on the 154th.
          16. In flight, the crew received a report of bad weather in Smolensk from the Vitebsk dispute, but continued to strive for Smolensk.
          17. In contact with Smolensk, the crew received a message from its dispatcher about low clouds and fog. The dispatcher said - There are no conditions for reception. Here is the main dispute with the Poles, they argue that the dispatcher was obliged to PROHIBIT the landing and to send to a spare. But this, if we were to consider the flight to be military, but how to count it was not clear - the daub in the fly plan. On civil flights, the dispatcher DOES NOT RIGHT to prohibit, only inform. The weather at the time of landing was - the lower limit of cloud cover is 40-50m and visibility is 400, which is much less than the meteorological minimums of the commander, plane and airport.
          18. The co-pilot of the Yak-40 from the parking lot was already reporting visibility 200. Another moment of pressure on the commander Protasyuk - the young one (starley) sat down, but what can I not?
          19. The crew of the YAK-40 reported 3 approaches of the military IL-76, an incomparably more maneuverable aircraft than the 154th, and its departure for a spare. He brought a ladder, which was not Smolensk.
          20. The notes on board and the displays have the phrase: - I’ve finished throwing, I’m going to the base. Around this phrase, many fantasies were built from liquid helium to special forces to finish off survivors. In fact, this is the phrase of the pilot L-410, who completed the deployment of paratroopers in Kirzhach. Such was the passage.
          21. The Smolensk airfield was not in the TAWS collision warning system; as a result, it could only use information from altimeters. The crew, apparently, did not sufficiently study the aerodrome data. Three days before the accident, Protasyuk sat there, but from the opposite side. And this time he had to go in from the one where there is a large ravine 60 meters below the strip in front of the runway.
          22. When approaching, the crew violated the approach pattern and to the TWG (entry point to the glide path) had more than the speed and altitude.
          23. Having skipped the TWG, the aircraft began to “catch up” the glide path and skipped it, developing a vertical speed of about 8-10 m / s with a normal speed of 2.8 m / s.
          24. An automatic traction control (an aviation analogue of cruise control) was turned on, which, to reduce the vertical speed, took the gases to a small one.
          25. The TAWS system 18 (!!!) times reported in a voice to the crew “Terrain ahead! "- the land is ahead! “Terrain ahead! Pull up! "- Earth is ahead! Pull up! "Pull up !!! Pull up !!! Pull up !!! ". And then someone in a carriage with iron nerves presses the reset button of the barometric altimeter so that the TAWS shuts up !!! A radio altimeter shows the height above the underlying surface, and not above the strip. That is 60 meters more! Decline continues
          26. And finally, Russian birch trees appear. The crew gives takeoff mode and pulls up. But the engines of the 154th from the "low gas" mode to full thrust go 11-12 seconds. A plane blown up begins to stall on the wing, only after that it cuts 6kV power lines and birch with the left wing.
          27. After a birch plane falls on its back. If it weren’t for the blast, it could have fallen on the belly, someone could have a chance to survive.

          Summary - Russians and Putin personally are to blame!
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell April 11 2016 09: 27
            +13
            Sensibly decomposed.
            If you will allow me to add about the general situation in the government unit. A year before, a brand new CASA295 had died, and the Air Force leadership was returning from a safety conference. The pilots tried to go below the minimum in the fog - everyone died. And whose commander "flooded" flies in a large civilian company, not Polish, "terribly regrets"
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 April 11 2016 09: 50
              +17
              I don’t even want to discuss this Polish nonsense. The drunkards flew to the event. Well, they arrived laughing
              And for the broken birch, it is necessary for the drunks to put up an account for this. So you can’t get enough of these important young European birches near Smolensk. am
          2. 222222
            222222 April 11 2016 16: 54
            +3
            One reason is the Polish arrogance. ??
        2. Private IITR
          Private IITR April 12 2016 15: 28
          +1
          Kachinsky's plane got into fog and collided with a birch, the crew of "Fog" and the operator of "Birch" were presented with state awards.
      2. ruAlex
        ruAlex April 11 2016 11: 59
        +4
        Churchill described her very accurately at the time, if I am not mistaken, calling Poland Poland a gay Europe. Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.
    2. mr.Evil
      mr.Evil April 11 2016 06: 24
      +8
      I propose to erect a monument to the Pole .... and demolish it in a couple of months, this is me recalling the previous news.
    3. The black
      The black April 11 2016 06: 24
      +5
      Already. Anthony personally calculated the landing site of the killer birch. (Probably by personal order of the GDP) laughing
      True, some sources have received information that Putin dropped the plane with a swirled willpower, but that would be too easy for Putin. laughing
      1. hedgehog in the fog
        hedgehog in the fog April 11 2016 06: 35
        +5
        Poles are such Poles, I can't add anything else. I know from myself, because I often visit them, they look at you and hate you, the bastard smiles but hates, for which I myself don't know, they have democracy, but we have " Lukashenka's totalitarianism ", but you should have seen how these democrats, without an accent at the gas station, talk to buy gasoline for rubles))
    4. Victor jnnjdfy
      Victor jnnjdfy April 11 2016 06: 32
      +6
      The President of Poland did not "look for a birch tree".

      “The Smolensk tragedy and everything that happened before and after it was dramatic evidence of the negligence of our state, poor governance, mistakes that should not have occurred,” he said, calling for an honest and open investigation into what happened without political clashes. “Let the experts calmly do it with all responsibility,” added Duda. “We all want the Smolensk wound to heal. This is a matter of prosperity for Poland and its people, ”he concluded.

      In my opinion, Duda said clearly and very dignified.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 April 11 2016 07: 49
        +3
        Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
        The President of Poland did not "look for a birch tree".

        Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
        calling for an honest and open investigation into the incident

        But Warsaw does the opposite:
        Warsaw on the 6 anniversary of the crash near Smolensk again looking for the Kremlin’s hand

        It seems that the politics of the President of Poland and the politics of Poland itself are completely different things! Well, they’re looking, let’s look! Who cares!
    5. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets April 11 2016 07: 19
      +7
      Quote: Aleksander
      Let them look for the Russian birch

      In memory of the plane crash, Smolensk schoolchildren planted a birch grove. smile
      1. Svidetel 45
        Svidetel 45 April 11 2016 14: 19
        +3
        And it’s better to plant oaks, they are stronger.
    6. evgenii67
      evgenii67 April 11 2016 07: 27
      +8
      I myself am from Smolensk and recently I was at the Severny airport, in general, I did not see any Kremlin hands there!
    7. vkl.47
      vkl.47 April 11 2016 08: 31
      +2
      stupidly drunk. Here and the whole truth of life. If for some it is heroism then yes ...
    8. Blondy
      Blondy April 11 2016 08: 37
      +3
      Quote: Aleksander
      Warsaw on the 6 anniversary of the crash near Smolensk again looking for the Kremlin’s hand

      Yeah, sure, the hand of Moscow ... with beer
    9. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell April 11 2016 09: 18
      +9
      So they found a birch, they need to set claims for a tree, maybe they will calm down
    10. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris April 11 2016 09: 25
      +6
      In my opinion, it’s not the hand of Moscow, but the hand of the Almighty .. For all pride and spite. Our Polish memorial in Smolensk isn’t touched. Or maybe it should?
      1. Svidetel 45
        Svidetel 45 April 11 2016 14: 25
        +3
        We must live with the wolves, howl like a wolf, and we must demolish all of their monuments, as they demolish ours, to the fallen soldiers during the liberation of Poland in WW2, they are such a people, they perceive any kind attitude towards them as weakness. for granted, as the right to be rude and impudent.
        1. Foxmara
          Foxmara April 11 2016 17: 15
          +1
          Quote: Svidetel 45
          it’s necessary to demolish and we have all their monuments, how they demolish ours,

          No need to be better than a neighbor. You have to be better than yourself yesterday.
    11. pensioneree
      pensioneree April 12 2016 19: 40
      0
      For RUSSIAN BIRCHES still need to answer! am
  2. parusnik
    parusnik April 11 2016 06: 15
    +8
    It was God's business, without irony
  3. Lukich
    Lukich April 11 2016 06: 17
    +1
    The fact is that April for the Polish leadership is the month of the most significant psychological and political aggravation, on the basis of which images of enemies in the east are drawn, although the real enemies of Poland and its people have long been seated in bureaucratic chairs in Warsaw itself and are actively warmed up by friends from the West.

    and not only for Polish. the authors of this virus themselves are susceptible to it. although of course the Baltic states and the borderlands this year-round. what however the virus is tenacious
  4. tissot72
    tissot72 April 11 2016 06: 18
    +1
    It is correctly noted that if it were not for the Russian soldier, a guy with the name Macherevich in nature could not exist now ...
  5. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 11 2016 06: 26
    +2
    It is typical for Poles in the spring to "poison" the "sores" allegedly inflicted by the Russians. The Balts also suffer from this. It is bad that this phobia disease is not treated. Alas. One can only pity the poor.
  6. mamont5
    mamont5 April 11 2016 06: 30
    +8
    Quote: mr.Evil
    I propose to erect a monument to the Pole .... and demolish it in a couple of months, this is me recalling the previous news.

    There was a better suggestion. To make a memorial complex in Katyn and ... to install there ALL monuments demolished in Poland.
  7. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx April 11 2016 06: 37
    +1
    The fact is that April for the Polish leadership is the month of the most significant psychological and political aggravation, on the basis of which images of enemies in the east are drawn, although the real enemies of Poland and its people have long been seated in bureaucratic chairs in Warsaw itself and are actively warmed up by friends from the West.
    Video on this topic
  8. Ozhogin Dmitry
    Ozhogin Dmitry April 11 2016 06: 37
    +3
    Poles, like the Japanese with the Kuril Islands - we explained 100 times, they did not understand a single time.
  9. Ozhogin Dmitry
    Ozhogin Dmitry April 11 2016 06: 38
    0
    Poles, like the Japanese with the Kuril Islands - we explained 100 times, they did not understand a single time.
  10. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery April 11 2016 06: 42
    +1
    Well, let's be honest - Who is this surprising ?!
  11. Neophyte
    Neophyte April 11 2016 06: 57
    +1
    Such a mentality of Lyakhs is a solid Russo-community in everything! Recently, on NTV, only Lyakh tried to prove to the audience that the soldiers of the armies of Stalin were slaves, and therefore the monuments in Poland should be destroyed? Amazed that 14% of those present supported the lie?
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 11 2016 07: 02
    +2
    There is no desire to comment on the next nonsense of the newly appeared gentry. May they be rewarded for their deeds (vile).
  13. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer April 11 2016 07: 19
    +1
    If the entire Polish government sets sail on any ship, it will sink to the bottom across the Atlantic and halfway, and Russia will be to blame, do not even hesitate. Or, suddenly, a new ice age will cover Europe with ice, or a meteorite will fly over and cover most of Poland, all the same, it will be the Kremlin’s hand. It’s just easier for them, and they won’t think otherwise, and most importantly, they don’t want to.
  14. ImPerts
    ImPerts April 11 2016 07: 22
    +10
    As there in the mantra of the handshakes:
    "The accursed Stalin reached out ..."
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 April 11 2016 15: 05
      +2
      Eternal gratitude AND IN STALIN and our grandfathers, who, even after death, protect us.
  15. vmo
    vmo April 11 2016 07: 47
    +1
    Alas. You can only feel sorry for the wretched.\

    What were you, a corrupt, stubborn Pole, so you stayed !!
  16. Basil50
    Basil50 April 11 2016 07: 55
    +3
    Strange people are Poles, they believe the most honest Germans about Katyn and do not believe the same Germans about the Poles attack on the German city of Gleivice. The government of RUSSIA looks even stranger, which, for the sake of * pan *, spits on such a science as forensics. It was necessary to please * Panam * and the helpful government immediately fabricated everything that was requested. But with the evidence it was bad and smartly open fakes were created, however the customer was pleased. After exposing the fakes thanks to Yu. MUKHIN, all these * evidence * magically disappeared from the Polish archives.
    After the start of WWII, the German genocide was organized by the Poles, the inhabitants of the German border cities were destroyed on the territory of Poland, which is precisely why the Polish leadership rushed about hiding from the Germans, and then simply fled. It became scary. And WWII ended with the German genocide by the Poles, who * bravely * robbed and killed the Germans in * the new Polish lands *.
    1. Victor jnnjdfy
      Victor jnnjdfy April 11 2016 09: 35
      -4
      What is there to drag in Katyn and the Germans? By the way, the letter of Shelepin to Khrushchev (Katyn) was long before the modern Russian Federation. And yet, by the way, the correspondence of Polish officers with their families stopped somewhere in May 1940. Before that there were letters and parcels ... So think about it.

      The "love" of Germans and Poles began long before WWII. After WWI, the Germans, for example, were the loser, and the Poles were the big winners. Behavior is appropriate. There you can even start with Grunwald a legend about the "warm" relationship between the two peoples ... Between the Germans and the Poles and now "love".
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 April 11 2016 15: 20
        +1
        No need to portray naivety, the Poles and Hitler coordinated their entire policies before WWII. Together with the Germans they shared the Czechs. Believing the British, they were preparing an attack on Germany, otherwise for what they were preparing an army, which they mobilized by May. By the way, the Polish army was more German, the British assured the Poles of victory, and therefore conducted a provocation in the city of Gleivice.
        And there are documents about Katyn, including international ones, including the international tribunal.
        1. Victor jnnjdfy
          Victor jnnjdfy April 11 2016 16: 11
          -3
          Since you are so knowledgeable on the first issue, I will additionally inform you that the Poles were sincerely convinced that in the event of a war with Germany, they would celebrate victory in Berlin in two weeks. Now on the Internet, for the sake of interest, you can find pre-war Polish newspapers and read. Greater Poland's fanaticism and the "miracle on the Vistula" played a cruel joke on them.

          On the second question, you are not much different from Mr. Macerevich. Only he has a Tu-154 with Leshek Utkin, and you have Katyn with a firing squad. The Nazis tried to bring up the Red Cross in the Katyn case. But the USSR forbade the Red Cross to take part in this investigation. In Nyurberg, the USSR tried to accuse Germany of the Katyn massacre, but it was not supported by the allies in this dubious case. As they say in the Army: "Learn materiel."
          1. Basil50
            Basil50 April 11 2016 18: 30
            +1
            * Bunch * about Nuremberg the invention of the Poles in the USA, you need to read the documents, this is not scary. There you can even figure it out.
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  17. demo
    demo April 11 2016 08: 03
    +8
    I recalled the anecdote of the Soviet period of time.

    A boat sailed along the river. There were 10 policemen in it.
    The tray rolled over.
    How many policemen drowned?
    Drowned 20 police officers.
    10 drowned immediately, and 10 during the investigative experiment.

    I propose to collect all those who doubt the conclusions of the IAC, boot into a similar board and fly along the same route. With similar introductory.
    To verify the version requires an investigative experiment.
    1. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 April 11 2016 14: 30
      +2
      Great idea, I need to offer it to the pshek, maybe. then make sure that we are right.
  18. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 11 2016 08: 14
    +1
    Everything happens according to the providence and the commemoration of the Lord.
    Each is rewarded according to his merits. Including states.
  19. Pitot
    Pitot April 11 2016 08: 41
    0
    Let them not scatter their own, then the hand of the Lord will not touch and the birch will not stretch.
  20. thinker
    thinker April 11 2016 08: 59
    +1
    Donald Tusk is almost an agent of the Kremlin, who was engaged in "the elimination of numerous Russian traces."

    Prime is former, but! The current President of the European Council or - one of the highest officials of the European Union. Interesting little layout ...
  21. maikl00000
    maikl00000 April 11 2016 09: 10
    +1
    The above can only be added to the fact that everyone should do his own thing: real pilots must sit at the helm of the presidential plane, and shepherds must graze the sheep.
  22. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 11 2016 09: 16
    +3
    Yes, normal Polish arrogance, especially if the authorities are drunk. Yes, I, yes we, and where to the poor pilot to get away from drunk idiots. That’s all. Uncertainty, but from under the stick, that’s the result. And do not hell to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if she is not there. Arrogance and pride are to blame for everything, especially when drunk, the Polish gentry has blood on it.
    1. parafoiler
      parafoiler April 11 2016 18: 08
      +1
      Yes, I remembered a student from Poland, Krzysztof, who studied at our institute when he was drunk. Arrogance. Arrogance. The denial is completely alien opinions. A couple of times the sides crumpled him. Now, apparently, he talks about the oppression of the Poles in the USSR during his studies.)))
  23. demiurg
    demiurg April 11 2016 09: 24
    +4
    It is a sin to laugh at the wretched, and even those killed by their own stupidity, but it is necessary.
    Since Susanin's time, the climate near Smolensk is not very good for psheks. Well, the poor climate is there for them, then they freeze, then they generally fall apart. In this regard, the question arises: will anyone else fly from Poland to Smolensk to Kaczynski’s wake or just above the graves in Katyn? Enough for the ambition, or two times enough, have a talk from Warsaw and calm down?
  24. skeptic
    skeptic April 11 2016 09: 30
    +2
    Vile leadership - the misfortune of the Poles is centuries old.
    All problems only from this.
    1. northern
      northern April 11 2016 12: 42
      +1
      Every nation deserves its rulers
  25. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac April 11 2016 09: 30
    +1
    And who wrote that the teams of the special objects "Tuman" and "Birch" received state awards? we were kidding, and the Poles took it seriously. now they are looking. I will not be surprised if they find any operator ...
  26. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 11 2016 10: 03
    +1
    Macherevich second from the left (red tie with polka dots)

    And better in the hole, with access to the back! laughing
  27. Turkir
    Turkir April 11 2016 10: 08
    +1
    If the nobleman steps on the rake and gets on the forehead, then he will chop the rake into pieces with a saber.
    Shlyakhtichi is always right and smarter than a rake. The truth is not much.
  28. xoma58
    xoma58 April 11 2016 10: 13
    +2
    Demolish monuments in Katyn and near Smolensk. In an extreme case, transfer them somewhere to Siberia, to the swamp. Just like them. Debt good turn deserves another.
    1. northern
      northern April 11 2016 12: 45
      0
      Quote: xoma58
      Demolish monuments ... Just like them ...

      You should never copy the behavior of villains, and thus, they become like
      1. Svidetel 45
        Svidetel 45 April 11 2016 14: 34
        0
        Poles understand and speak Polish, just as villains understand and speak the language of villains, they don’t understand another language, it’s not given.
      2. Svidetel 45
        Svidetel 45 April 11 2016 14: 38
        +1
        Poles understand and speak Polish, just as villains understand and speak the language of villains, they don’t understand another language, it’s not given.
  29. iouris
    iouris April 11 2016 11: 10
    0
    The moral and organizational responsibility for the disaster rests with the then Chairman of the Polish Government D. Tusk. The new campaign is multi-vector. Politically, it is directed against political competitors who used the disaster to make European careers, especially against Tusk. It is no secret that the allies of the deceased Kaczynski, to put it mildly, did not like and did not even come to the state funeral.
    Since any politician in Poland will be anti-Russian, in this situation Lech Kaczynski can be considered as almost pro-Russian. If there was a conspiracy, then its roots are in Warsaw, and it is pro-Western. The suspects are politicians and the military who have removed obstacles to career growth.
    Also, the anti-Russian context is connected with a new expansion of NATO to the East and a decrease in opportunities for the export of Polish agricultural products to the Russian Federation.
  30. MOTHER
    MOTHER April 11 2016 11: 31
    0
    I really want (after dismantling, the monuments and the burial places of Soviet soldiers in Poland ..) I just roll Katyn with tractors and on the site of the death of the Tu-154 guide psheks, scatter bottles of vodka and cigarettes smuggled ...! AND FORGET! Ungrateful creatures .. ... (excuse me already boiling ..)
  31. Eastern wind
    Eastern wind April 11 2016 11: 36
    0
    I think that they all have such inadequate statements! They are just booties!
  32. nivander
    nivander April 11 2016 12: 35
    0
    I represent the level of combat readiness of the Polish army with such a minister
    1. iouris
      iouris April 11 2016 15: 10
      +1
      The agent of the Polish defensives Janek Koreyva stated in my blue eye that Polish pilots, after all, dream of avenging Russia for the "downed" plane. My agents report that anti-Russian hysteria is already reigning in Poland. The arguments of reason are not accepted. This does not mean that there are no people in Poland who are capable of understanding the essence of what is happening. But, on the other hand, from this they do not cease to be "Polish patriots", that is, "moderate" Russophobes.
      Any sloppy statements on our part are harmful to our interests. Only those responsible for imports from Poland should speak out.
  33. X Y Z
    X Y Z April 11 2016 12: 47
    +1
    The funny thing is that in this situation we are trying to explain and analyze something to someone. One thing needs to be understood - under no circumstances will Poland give up the Smolensk myth while PiS is in power. Indeed, the modern Polish state is based on another myth - Katyn. Recently, it has shed significantly from everyday use and even in Poland it is no longer perceived so acutely. Ongoing anniversaries, months and other performances quietly do their job, gradually everything bothers. You can’t live in constant mourning and there is such happiness for PiS! A new myth pours fresh blood into all the activity of Russophobia. New battles are unfolding, the number of conspiracy theories is off the charts, ratings are growing. And all this you now want to take away from them ?!
  34. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid April 11 2016 13: 03
    +1
    They began to celebrate the disgusting holiday "Miracle on the Vistula", to mock the death of Soviet and Russian soldiers. And then God punished them that their leadership had died.
  35. KRIG55
    KRIG55 April 11 2016 13: 21
    +1
    They will restless that they will find the Kremlin’s hand on their skinny gentry neck.
  36. Al1977
    Al1977 April 11 2016 15: 13
    -1
    Quote: armored optimist
    2. He demanded that all of his pilots go to a radio altimeter from a height of 200m while the whole world does it at 100m.

    What does "go over" mean? And you can link to SOP (RLE) where it is said about this transition at an altitude of 100m
    He taught all his crews, in difficult weather conditions, to use the “rat” technique when the plane descends below the lower edge of the cloud long before the near radio beacon and with its eyes searches for a strip.

    Nonsense: ALL documents and instructions prohibit falling below the minimum allowed height. Stupid people do it, but they don’t teach it.
    7. Refueling was at two ends - an extra 11 tons.

    Something new and not normal ????
    Remember the last FlyDubai, it was completely charged, there fuel is cheaper.
    The rest of the text is full of inaccuracies. There is an official report. To write a person who is far from aviation, his opinion is not worth it.
    It was enough to say that this is a CLASSICAL example of a collision with the ground in a controlled flight (born CFIT, Controlled flight into terrain). Such catastrophes were full in history and they were not trained by a double instructor.
  37. demiurg
    demiurg April 11 2016 17: 14
    +3
    Quote: XYZ
    The funny thing is that in this situation we are trying to explain and analyze something to someone. One thing needs to be understood - under no circumstances will Poland give up the Smolensk myth while PiS is in power. Indeed, the modern Polish state is based on another myth - Katyn. Recently, it has shed significantly from everyday use and even in Poland it is no longer perceived so acutely. Ongoing anniversaries, months and other performances quietly do their job, gradually everything bothers. You can’t live in constant mourning and there is such happiness for PiS! A new myth pours fresh blood into all the activity of Russophobia. New battles are unfolding, the number of conspiracy theories is off the charts, ratings are growing. And all this you now want to take away from them ?!

    No need to make excuses, or explain something. Need to invite to Smolensk. Let them understand on the spot. But let them fly on their planes. And to arrange more video cameras in the district, suddenly Uncle Joe planted more than one birch.
  38. 1536
    1536 April 11 2016 19: 53
    +2
    Who shouts loudest "stop the thief" himself requires very close attention. The Poles should look for enemies at home. And why weren't today's screamers on that plane?
  39. su163
    su163 April 11 2016 20: 22
    +1
    Warsaw on the 6 anniversary of the crash near Smolensk again looking for the Kremlin’s hand

    Well, let them finally see the hand of punishing.

    I respect other people's monuments and graves, and these devils want to bear the memory of our soldiers, and I have one simple thought .... come again to bow to your grave in our Russian impenetrable fog. With their great aces and feeders of their carts. Perhaps one more is formed .. But in spite we will not roll out the Polish graves in our land, to show the children what happens to those who betrayed their memory.
  40. Kibl
    Kibl April 11 2016 21: 02
    +1
    A drunken love affair to the country! Throughout its history, the affectionate pilgrims have only been engaged in sabers in their Sejm and built up the nasty things of the great neighbor of Russia. They were simply strangled by a huge enormous Polish toad. It’s just that pšeks are famous dirty tricks and nobody tolerate them in Europe can’t! They and the Balts are needed for the time being, when they bark at Russia, work out their own and in the trash! As it has been in history before!
  41. razved
    razved April 11 2016 21: 36
    0
    Let them look for the brain in their heads ... (and then the words of S.V. Lavrov spoken at a press conference by accident)
  42. eleronn
    eleronn April 11 2016 22: 18
    0
    I do not understand why it is impossible to file a lawsuit (for defamation) against these psychopaths in court? Insist on an open process, provide the required evidence, evidence and documents? In a democratic society (pah! It’s become disgusting already) all issues are resolved in court? Or how?
  43. vitya1945
    vitya1945 April 11 2016 23: 21
    0
    Let them prove it!
  44. Idiot
    Idiot April 23 2016 11: 58
    0
    AMERICAN Joke: a Pole asked a more successful lavelas to help meet a girl on the beach. He says: put the cucumber in the swimming trunks. Pole stuck, but all the girls shied away from him. He was offended and with a claim to the adviser, saying why it did not work? He replies: it was necessary to shove the cucumber in front.