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Workers building piers for “Boreev” are not paid a salary for several months.

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Dalspetsstroy owed SU 707 employees engaged in the construction of piers for the Borey nuclear submarine in Vilyuchinsk more than 10 rubles, reports Look with reference to the state labor inspectorate in the Kamchatka region.


Workers building piers for “Boreev” are not paid a salary for several months.


On Wednesday, around 40 management builders have suspended work. According to them, they have not received their salary for the month of 4. In turn, Dalspetsstroy claims that the delay was only 2 of the month. The reasons - "a difficult financial situation at the enterprise". To pay off the debt promised in the near future.

“The workers of Dalspetsstroy went to payroll delays since January. People are sitting and no work is being done, ”said Oleg Fedorov, chairman of the Kamchatka trade union organization.

“The existence of the debt was confirmed, in February it amounted to 6 million 927 thousand rubles, in March 3 million 154 thousand rubles. The employer has been given an order obliging to completely eliminate the revealed violations and pay wage arrears by April 14, ”the inspection said.

At present, inspectors draw up documents for bringing Dalspetsstroy to administrative responsibility.

Help newspaper: "The branch of the SU 707" Dalspetsstroy at Spetsstroy Russia "builds facilities for the Ministry of Defense, including 12 piers for strategic submarines of the class" Borey. " Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Dalspetsstroy" is a division of "Spetsstroy Russia".
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU April 8 2016 14: 18
    +21
    What kind of perpetual mess with shipyards in the Far East? Does the 8-hour difference from the center really affect you so much?
    Rogozin on Facebook posted the news or shots from Syria on the work of Mi-28H, (what should the Ministry of Defense channel show) still interesting for likes?
    1. Byshido_dis
      Byshido_dis April 8 2016 14: 19
      +10
      10 million (for several hundred people) is not such a big amount, but since it got into the media, I think now the Investigative Committee and the prosecutor’s office will firmly take those who are responsible for kokoshki and will squeeze very much ....
      1. Terner38
        Terner38 April 8 2016 14: 43
        +40
        It is becoming more and more difficult to steal, it is dangerous to take kickbacks (organs are watching). Therefore, they begin to return to the old proven way of scrolling salary money in accounts. We have a similar situation in the city. But recently, in front of people in front of people, the military representative was dragged out of the office, taken away in bobik and paid the whole salary a week later.
        1. Roman 11
          Roman 11 April 8 2016 14: 56
          +10
          Quote: Terner38
          recently the military representative in front of people was dragged out of the office, taken away in bobik

          In vain did not shoot the dog, oh in vain - the story will repeat ......
        2. avt
          avt April 8 2016 15: 07
          +7
          Quote: Terner38
          It’s becoming more and more difficult to steal; it’s dangerous to take kickbacks (authorities watch)

          Targeted and “colored” money, again, cleaned up quite sensitively the garbage banks and, as a result,
          Quote: Terner38
          . Therefore, they begin to return to the old proven way of scrolling salary money in accounts.

          Starting from a stupid place on deposit and further. Workers can and should be advised to write a collective and private application to the prosecutor’s office and the UK with a mandatory annotation about sending a copy to Moscow to the prosecutor’s general. And do not wait for months and be led on the type will certainly pay, that's how a month of delay, so direct and start bombing the regulatory authorities. Yes! The main thing is not to sign any papers and statements in the absence of money, well, if cash on hand is issued at the box office. And then they can pay taxes, and throw people on the headstock, like then get it.
          1. aba
            aba April 9 2016 01: 27
            0
            The workers can and should be advised to write a collective and private application to the prosecutor's office and the Investigative Committee with a mandatory annotation about sending a copy to Moscow to the Prosecutor General.

            There was a time when this was unthinkable, and now we are habitually discussing what a working person should do.
            When will I hear that officials are on strike for not getting paid and other nishtyaks?
        3. dauria
          dauria April 8 2016 15: 43
          +11
          , was taken away in bobik and in a week all salary was paid.


          With the arrival of Primakov in the late 90s (I think it was 97th, I don’t remember exactly), the seven-month debt was paid off in a month - every Friday 2 monthly salaries were given out. And before that, "money in Moscow", "did not come, did not reach ...."
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 April 9 2016 03: 56
            +2
            Quote: dauria
            With the advent of Primakov

            The trouble is that HE WAS ONE SUCH ..
            And "Dalspetsstroy" was thoroughly lit up, if people remember, back in the scandal with "Vostochny" - and the same situation! This seems to be a daily practice for management.
        4. BULLIT
          BULLIT April 8 2016 17: 02
          +5
          So you need to do with all the officials! And with a popular flog !!!
          1. dr. sem
            dr. sem April 8 2016 18: 14
            +2

            so here it is
      2. udincev
        udincev April 8 2016 14: 45
        +5
        Quote: Byshido_dis
        I think now the UK and the prosecutor’s office will firmly take those responsible for the coconuts and will squeeze very, very much ....

        I would like to believe.
        Since the matter concerns the object of Moscow Defense, attention should be not only from the UK.
        It’s time to return the firing squad for wrecking.
        Or again "it was cut like this ... no one is to blame ..."
      3. udincev
        udincev April 8 2016 14: 48
        +8
        Quote: Byshido_dis
        10 million (for several hundred people) is not such a large amount

        The amount may not be big, but 2-4 months without salary for several hundred families ...
      4. Shuttle
        Shuttle April 8 2016 16: 43
        +2
        http://dfo.spetsstroy.ru/about/structure/31240/

        Branch "Construction Department No. 707"
        Home → About enterprise → Structure
        Perevalov Alexander Alexandrovich
        branch manager
        Contact us
        E-mail: [email protected]
        Contact phone numbers
        Reception: 8 (4152) 25-80-16
        Human Resources: 8 (4152) 25-80-18
        Accounting: 8 (4152) 25-78-60
        VET: 8 (4152) 25-78-68
        OMTO: 8 (4152) 25-77-31
        Date of branch formation: April 1 2013

        Main areas of activity: construction of facilities for special, industrial, civil, social and cultural purposes
        Geography of activity: Kamchatka Territory (Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, ZATO, Vilyuchinsk)
        -------------------------------
        Everything is fine, but the date of the branch is confusing.
      5. Shpagolom
        Shpagolom April 8 2016 17: 00
        +1
        ..the management of "Dalspetsstroy" must be involved for "rocking the boat", Rogozin for "oversight", and the employees of "SHMERA" should be reprimanded for loyalty))
      6. faridg7
        faridg7 April 8 2016 17: 07
        +2
        Quote: Byshido_dis
        10 million (for several hundred people) is not such a large amount

        Given that this is Kamchatka, people are trying to starve to death. The main argument is whether these pennies make you the weather?
      7. UREC
        UREC April 8 2016 18: 45
        +1
        At the factory where I work, salaries for February were paid out - 50%. Despite the fact that people accrued from 3 to 10 thousand rubles. (like there are few orders) Nobody needs this - a small city of 60 thousand. residents. Private factory.
    2. Hon
      Hon April 8 2016 14: 21
      +5
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      What kind of perpetual mess with shipyards in the Far East? Does the 8-hour difference from the center really affect you so much?

      only with this mess?
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU April 8 2016 14: 28
        +9
        Quote: Hon
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        What kind of perpetual mess with shipyards in the Far East? Does the 8-hour difference from the center really affect you so much?

        only with this mess?


        Of course, not only with this, you can remember the Vostochny cosmodrome. But for the shipyards of the Far East, so much has already been written and rewritten that it is already time to quarter there a Cheka detachment on a permanent basis. While they are still asleep in Moscow ... in the East they are already sawing on a large scale, according to the documents, as it were, yesterday or tomorrow wassat I don’t know, it’s clear that there is enough corruption in the Central Region, but something tells me that in the Far East, a little bit, but it’s easier to carry out shadow schemes. Although I may be wrong. I do not want to divide the country, even in these matters, you will forgive hi In Ukraine, officials from the Donbass were first blamed for all the troubles, and then the entire Donbass.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets April 8 2016 23: 48
        0

        only with this mess? And you think about it. What will such a policy lead to?

        http://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/news/2016/04/06/636652-minvostokrazvitiya
        http://www.dp.ru/a/2016/04/06/Pravitelstvo_gotovo_razm/
        And this is not all the links. According to the local "Novosti TV Russia-1" it sounded that the agreement was signed. I did not find any links for signing.
    3. da Vinci
      da Vinci April 8 2016 14: 21
      +1
      The Vostochny Cosmodrome has the same problems. sad
    4. kitamo
      kitamo April 8 2016 14: 56
      0
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      What kind of perpetual mess with shipyards in the Far East? Does the 8-hour difference from the center really affect you so much?


      I am sorry, Kamchatka has a nine-hour difference ...
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU April 8 2016 15: 32
        +3
        Quote: kitamo
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        What kind of perpetual mess with shipyards in the Far East? Does the 8-hour difference from the center really affect you so much?


        I am sorry, Kamchatka has a nine-hour difference ...


        It all changes radically. winked
    5. go21zd45few
      go21zd45few April 8 2016 15: 27
      +2
      As long as this thieves will be brought to administrative and not criminal liability, this is mockery, delays and non-payment of salaries,
      will continue. Only real terms with reimbursement of salaries for the protection of property of the official who committed the bottom financial action.
    6. sergeybulkin
      sergeybulkin April 8 2016 17: 28
      0
      an order was issued obliging in full to eliminate the revealed violations and pay wage arrears by April 14

      Yes why until 14?? April? Why not tomorrow? Again, the state of "high" thieves covers up and makes concessions to the swindlers. am
    7. aba
      aba April 9 2016 01: 29
      0
      Is the 8-hour difference from the center affected so much?

      No, the usual grin of Russian capitalism. If their will, they would have been forced to work for a bowl of soup.
  2. AlexSam
    AlexSam April 8 2016 14: 19
    +12
    But what are our cheers patriots silent?
    1. Nix1986
      Nix1986 April 8 2016 15: 50
      +6
      They drink beer and play WoT. They wait until 20 rebars on the cobblestones are rolled for May 9. And you are some kind of corruption, GDP simply does not know about it.
      1. quote
        quote April 8 2016 17: 25
        -3
        Quote: Nix1986
        GDP simply does not know about it.

        Should I? Have you found more responsible people?
        Or soon for all diapers in the kindergarten, the answer to keep him?
        Land.
        1. Nix1986
          Nix1986 April 8 2016 18: 18
          +3
          If the shareholder sees that the worker is pissing on the transformer, then he will be the director, and he will not conduct an investigation who his immediate boss is. The president receives a social package from taxes of his citizens; accordingly, I have the right to address my questions to him directly. For your development, google how the rights of a Roman citizen differed from the rights of non-citizens - this, by the way, was used by the apostle Paul. So citizens have every right to appeal all their questions to the head of state.
          1. 320423
            320423 April 8 2016 19: 55
            0
            The trade union should deal with this issue, or how the workers themselves are here, and if you wait for the president, then YOU LOKHOV will throw !!!!!!! You are responsible for yourself and you must solve your problems !!!!!!!!
            1. Nix1986
              Nix1986 April 8 2016 20: 55
              +3
              Union Dude wake up, flight Washington - Tagil has landed.
          2. quote
            quote April 8 2016 20: 53
            0
            Quote: Nix1986
            So citizens have every right to appeal all their questions to the head of state.

            So there are no problems with your thinking (appeal, two "L"). But! The last resort in the conflict, the employee and the employer, the court !!!, on labor conflicts or approximately another name. If you cannot come to this, then yes wait for the president like Santa Claus for the New Year.
            And even more so if you provide non-payment, as a class action, TO THE EMPLOYER (not the president), the song! Alone is hard., But very much. (Verified).
            The more minuses to me, according to this comment, the greater the indicator, inertia of citizens, in the struggle (how loudly) for their rights.
            Of course, I understand the other "side of the question". But this is almost intimate. (Vybor.zavod (salary, tolerate) or collective farm (f))!
  3. From Udmurtia
    From Udmurtia April 8 2016 14: 19
    +14
    How long will this mess go on !? Therefore, more and more people want the same power as under Stalin.
  4. genisis
    genisis April 8 2016 14: 21
    +14
    Serdyukov, Shoigu, and Spetsstroy both did not pay, and does not pay.
    Untouchables, Che)
    Guys delivered concrete to Spetsstroy Kubinka, Patriot Park
    2350 m3 at 3450 rubles per m3 = 8 107 500 rubles. debt
    Already a year and a half how
    Also happy
    Like stopped on time
    1. lelikas
      lelikas April 8 2016 14: 34
      +3
      On their site, there is generally not a word about the problem - everything is calm.
      1. faridg7
        faridg7 April 8 2016 17: 19
        +2
        And they have no problems, hard workers have problems. Surely the management commented on all of this as follows: We have a difficult financial situation, the management as well as the employees do not receive a salary for 3 months and do not buzz.
        But at the same time, it does not emphasize that the director’s monthly salary can be used to close the salary arrears of most of the staff
        1. Amurets
          Amurets April 9 2016 00: 09
          0
          Quote: faridg7
          On their website, there is not a word about the problem at all - everything is calm. STRC "Amur" is a regional branch of STRC "Russia". ...

          And who makes the noise? Former head of "Dalspetsstroy" Yuri Khrizman will be tried. Here's the link.
          http://gtrkamur.ru/news/2016/04/06/16899
    2. Stranger03
      Stranger03 April 8 2016 15: 01
      +3
      Well done, why wait for 1.5 of the year? Wasn’t it time to file a debt with the arbitration court? Such cases are very easily won. Unless your guys themselves are suckers, and some uncle Vanya without the right to sign did not sign for concrete supplies.
  5. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 April 8 2016 14: 23
    +5
    There are simply too many intermediate links, in the transitions between which funds very easily disappear and are mastered. Each project has its own company (well, or at least a branch). There would be one highly centralized organization - there would be no such hemorrhoids. But do people from above need this?)
    1. Stranger03
      Stranger03 April 8 2016 15: 03
      +3
      In this situation, this is a direct threat to the country's defense. For this it’s not like criminal cases, for it under Stalin 20 years without the right to correspond, to cut down the forest. Dalspetsstroy is a general contractor, a direct recipient of budget funds ... Full pe ...
  6. drilled
    drilled April 8 2016 14: 26
    +8
    "The NKVD is in great need ..."
    1. Vladimyrych
      Vladimyrych April 8 2016 14: 34
      +7
      And also: Cheka, OGPU, MGB, KGB.
      FeSeBe and MeVeDe to Kolyma in full strength.
    2. Million
      Million April 8 2016 14: 38
      +4
      political will is not enough for some
    3. jaguar
      jaguar April 8 2016 14: 43
      +3
      The NKVD is lacking. But why then the prosecutor's office, the investigative committee, the accounting chamber, obep !!! request
      1. quote
        quote April 8 2016 17: 42
        +2
        Quote: jaguar
        The NKVD is lacking. But why then the prosecutor's office, the investigative committee, the accounting chamber, obep !!! request

        How dare you, on the untouchables, poke your finger! Can you keep your salary? (Sarcasm)
        In general, this is a complete ass. A hundred pounds has been set up. The racking is on all fronts. The amount of "liberoids" is completely zero, the blow is being dealt to the working class. Napryamuyu. (for now, remember and remind.)
  7. snifer
    snifer April 8 2016 14: 28
    +8
    this is nonsense, I personally know an organization called the industrial industry, there are thousands of deceived people, salaries have not been paid for a year and a half, they are constantly recruiting new ones and throwing them again and again, the prosecutor’s office is engaged in unsubscribing, people have bypassed all the thresholds, but they are still there where they haven’t written but silence. One person has already committed suicide, taken to the extreme, But Gazprom regularly presents them with new contracts no matter what it seems like it should be. maybe because the St. Petersburg office
  8. pia
    pia April 8 2016 14: 29
    +12
    The state with Dalspetsstroy also had problems at the Vostochny cosmodrome. A simple question - why do you need such a contractor? Maybe start chopping off the hands of thieves?
  9. 3officer
    3officer April 8 2016 14: 29
    +13
    And where is Mr. Rogozin with SMERSH? Let him come to the enterprise and give the builders his "proprietary" populism instead of a salary for six months in advance.
    1. 406ppm2gv
      406ppm2gv April 8 2016 17: 40
      +2
      in the country, wage arrears currently amount to 3,3 lard rubles. It can be at least in Europe (I do not belittle them), it cannot, because it will be more expensive for myself. and we tryn grass ..
    2. for
      for April 8 2016 20: 19
      0
      Quote: 3officer
      And where is Mr. Rogozin with "SMERSH"?


      Where is Putin with the National Guard or are they for workers.
    3. for
      for April 8 2016 20: 19
      +1
      Quote: 3officer
      And where is Mr. Rogozin with "SMERSH"?


      Where is Putin with the National Guard or are they for workers.
  10. lis-ik
    lis-ik April 8 2016 14: 31
    +4
    I don’t understand what kind of twa.ri such people work, often in difficult conditions, is it really so difficult to tear the salary from the heart! I am proud that in the most difficult times for us, and now, too, first of all, we include wages in the main expense, and only then all other payments!
  11. Million
    Million April 8 2016 14: 38
    +2
    Modern, read Putin’s, capitalism! In Soviet times, many goals could fly for a one-day pay delay! Now, irresponsibility and impunity are in the order of things
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 8 2016 14: 53
      +13
      Well, it was for such cases in the 90s that the criminal liability for violation of the norms of the labor code and labor contracts was removed, replacing it with an administrative one. Modern Russian capitalism has no analogues in history, even the wild capitalism in the USA of the era of the "frontier" was even more "philanthropic", because non-payment of wages was equated there with a serious crime. In Russia, an amazing situation has now developed - not only have wages in the manufacturing sector become not just low (they were like that before), they have become simply beggarly, not exceeding $ 300-400 for the bulk of the population, they are not paid yet, and the population cannot even complain about it! But even if he does complain, those who do not pay salaries will not receive any punishment, except for a symbolic-administrative one! And our government is to blame for this, which has adopted such methods in the economy as outsourcing, subcontracting, migrant labor, etc.
  12. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 8 2016 14: 40
    +7
    Who else is against I.V. Stalin? All his life, liberalism towards people who are not fulfilling their direct duties has led to a mess. SMERSH say, maybe SMERSH what is needed?
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 April 8 2016 16: 20
      +1
      We live here and now. And the reincarnation of the departed is impossible.
      Leave alone those who have lived their lives worthily.
      And today's problems should be solved by the living generation.
      Emotions from the created lawlessness are off scale. Problems must be solved.
      But ... I don’t feel like it, I’m shaking the past. For each problem there is a specific solution, for a systemic problem, in the country just such, there is also a solution.
      Regarding construction projects commissioned by the Ministry of Defense, they should be monitored. When conducting a tender, the state must set a condition regarding wages. Such facilities should be built by specialists, not drug addicts. The conditions must be the presence of the necessary qualifications in the state of staff, the payment of salaries in accordance with the estimate and the timely transfer of taxes. There used to be a license in which there was a list of employees, their qualifications, length of service and education. And now only SRO give money and we will write to you. This is a mess: one company is being built, and money is being paid to another company. The robbery of the state and workers must be stopped. This should be stated everywhere.
      And the legislation needs to be tightened, there must be criminal liability for disrupting the state order, and there must be demand from the officials organizing the tender.
      And your approach is not constructive.
  13. Hare
    Hare April 8 2016 14: 42
    +3
    Let Putin pay together with Rogozin from his s / n.
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem April 8 2016 15: 45
      +3
      There is nothing to pay the guarantee with. Poor he is. Looking for, looking for the lard of the sun, but they cannot find it ... Maybe we will throw ourselves off the country and bring it "to poverty" ...
  14. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK April 8 2016 14: 42
    +1
    because all over the country there is such a mess why are you surprised))) these are our realities.
  15. lexx2038
    lexx2038 April 8 2016 14: 42
    +7
    This is such a state of affairs, much more dangerous than ISIS, you can’t keep your compatriots for livestock. It is necessary to restore order cruelly, revealingly.
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 8 2016 14: 47
    +3
    The standard situation is overtime payments for overtime work that refused to be covered, because it is half-linden. The amount for such a construction is scanty, so this story has a second bottom. But we will not know about him. Yes and no need - a storm in a glass of water.
  17. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 8 2016 14: 49
    +1
    "Talented" managers got there too ...
  18. Roman 11
    Roman 11 April 8 2016 14: 50
    +2
    Again bureaucratic brawl muddles the water? Undermining the security of the state - to sort out the perpetrators to the wall, continue work, stop fussing!
  19. Pitot
    Pitot April 8 2016 14: 50
    +3
    Spetsstroy take for the gills? Do not tell my slippers. This overgrown mafia construction-gangster group ofigel completely. They have already declared themselves in Kamchatka for a long time. True, I heard that this is a GDP company. I do not know. But the rumor is coming. Apparently because they behave very briskly, and penta they do not care, (personally encountered). Guys, in our country, a little dolby in 1991-193 put his item called a head into a slave yoke. Recall that Prokhorovich proposed increasing the length of the working day. And now in the geyrop the same thing - increase to 12 hours. Soon they will offer us, because after Prokhorovich nothing has changed - the landlords (read the body owners) are very overgrown - they are faced with themselves. Capitalism blossoms and stinks. Drawn their own, now we are compared to the ground. In the sense they bury it without regrets - women give birth.
    1. Gurinov Nikolay
      Gurinov Nikolay April 8 2016 14: 59
      +3
      My pitchforks are already ground. But seriously, you need to ask the guarantor questions.
      1. Roman 11
        Roman 11 April 8 2016 18: 24
        0
        Quote: Nikolay Gurinov
        My pitchforks are already ground. But seriously, you need to ask the guarantor questions.

        Which one? Is he getting ready for the anniversary of a century ago and will not the new 17th year smile at the window ?? laughing
    2. Roman 11
      Roman 11 April 8 2016 18: 00
      +1
      Quote: Pitot
      Soon they will offer us, because after Prokhorovich nothing has changed - the landlords (read the body owners) are very overgrown - they are faced with themselves. Capitalism blossoms and stinks. Drawn their own, now we are compared to the ground. In the sense they bury it without regrets - women give birth.

      I went to a bar to find out from work, and there children were eating a dime a dozen from 16 and above - in broad daylight after lunch, almost everything to the eyeballs !! The crisis is to pound ...... The chef says we certainly need cooks, but the rest between shifts is 3 hours, we often have to go to other shifts - imagine the schedule 09-02, sometimes until 03 (i.e. 17-18 hours ), 2 shifts after 2 (conditionally). This is not all, the rhythm is such that sitting down to eat is not always time. Youth is falling and the whole staff is constantly changing. They have an interesting management - they create ideal people - zombies who apparently will not need a dream soon ......

      In general, the hair came out to move, I go, I think - this is how youth is burned, if they are not torn (which is almost impossible - there is a limit everywhere) and there will be nothing to remember in old age, except perhaps the hell of youth.

      They squeezed corrupt officials, now due to what ways they earn a coin - they kill an irresponsible young man ...... and behind the cordon there’s a little work somewhere - fines and lumps for not complying with labor safety standards (the most valuable capital is people).

      The children of the new Russians have multiplied, they obviously won’t work - the class of parasites ..... and the poor are basically of the same size, what’s coming out? Who will puff behind the machines? We invite guest workers - they are all cons, they can settle here (I judge a Tajik neighbor, married our woman of an unrespectable appearance), take a coin from the country, make our homeland dependent on the labor resources of other countries, etc. In short, a vicious circle - that's what the experimenters of monetary schemes
  20. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx April 8 2016 14: 52
    +3
    Quote: 3officer
    And where is Mr. Rogozin with "SMERSH"?

    Where, where on Twitter, that's where.
    1. 3officer
      3officer April 8 2016 15: 15
      +2
      It’s better to upload the video - where the thieves run with bags of money on their shoulders across the field .. and MI 28 works on them (they’re not always hit, so there’s a humane chance to survive!) .. But we won’t see such a video, because we don’t it is clear where the place of Rogozin himself is either in a helicopter .. or on the field?))
  21. Ru_N
    Ru_N April 8 2016 14: 53
    +4
    In foreign policy we are handsome! But in the inner everything is the same, nothing is changing. Around the mess, corruption, the annihilation of medicine and education, oh, sorry .... reform! Bullied everything! It seems to be ready to work for the good of the Motherland, only something is not visible to whom this is all from me.
  22. dr. sem
    dr. sem April 8 2016 14: 53
    +4
    Quote: AlexSam
    But what are our cheers patriots silent?

    Uryaam has nothing to say here. They pulled on pink eyes, and besides the victories of the sun outside the country they see nothing. Shit for their comments is not attractive. But it stinks right outside the window ... Thieves are everywhere. Since the 90s nothing has changed ...
  23. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK April 8 2016 14: 58
    +3
    At our enterprise in the fuel and energy company, the salary is stable only from October to April, the rest of the time is hellish debt. And this is already 5 years. Moreover, before the delays begin, everyone collects and says: -The problems will be with the payments, but we will pay everything later, write or don’t write to the prosecutor’s office, this will not change anything.))) people write, but nothing happens.
  24. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN April 8 2016 15: 00
    +5
    Every problem ALWAYS! there is a name, surname, position. I will repeat, ALWAYS!
    There is always someone who made the wrong decision or simply committed a crime, but then either according to Stalin or Chubais ...
    The election is coming. So make your choice for the future. And for the real responsibility on us for the last election. Including me, I admit. Maybe I wrote hard, but it's true. Who should I blame?
    1. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK April 8 2016 15: 09
      +4
      I’ve written not harshly, but the only problem in your words is that the choice does not depend on voting in the booths. We do not solve anything. I do not believe in the honesty of the elections in Russia.
    2. Velizariy
      Velizariy April 8 2016 16: 21
      +2
      ... the election is coming. So make a choice of your future ...
      And you are naive ... Do you think the voice of the people in the elections influences something? Be realistic)
    3. Roman 11
      Roman 11 April 8 2016 18: 34
      +1
      Quote: Barkhan
      Elections are coming soon.

      Seriously!?

      Who choose ???
      As in that joke: Who, whom - whom is needed, is chosen laughing
  25. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK April 8 2016 15: 02
    +2
    at such moments when you see such news, I want to see how the embezzlers are chopped off their hands, like in Saudi Arabia, or shot like in China, and in prime time on the ORT channel.
  26. yahont
    yahont April 8 2016 15: 03
    +5
    Hmm, it's a mess, the workers are not paid wages, the workers are not building piers, the piers are not ready, so there is no place to put the Boreas, there is nowhere to put the Boreas, which means fewer submarines will go out to sea on alert, which means the country has become a little "weaker" so on ... the chain can be expanded indefinitely, Dmitry Vladimirovich, and who will be responsible for this?
    1. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK April 8 2016 15: 07
      +3
      nobody because “you can't rock the boat.” At the Vostochny cosmodrome, even after they took control of the president and Rogozin personally, they managed not to pay wages for several months. Even when there was control! Do you understand?
      1. dr. sem
        dr. sem April 8 2016 15: 21
        +2
        Bullying people became the norm. "Fictitious managers" clearly do their job for "legal gesheft", the system does not fail even when "NATO is at the gates" ...
        1. Roman 11
          Roman 11 April 8 2016 18: 41
          0
          Quote: dr. sem
          the system does not fail even when "NATO is at the gates" ...

          Sometimes it seems that NATO is not at the gates, but already in this system itself.
  27. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K April 8 2016 15: 05
    +6
    Under Soviet rule, this was simply impossible! Here it is the face of the evil oligarchs, who at all costs seek to destroy their homeland. Already that people increase our defenses, because through them they want to disable the defense. Well, when do people finally realize that the capitalist regime must be overthrown.
    1. dmikras
      dmikras April 8 2016 18: 13
      0
      And what in return ?
      There is nothing
      Is not the Soviet government brought to this situation?
      1. Roman 11
        Roman 11 April 8 2016 18: 55
        +1
        Quote: dmikras
        Is not the Soviet government brought to this situation?

        NO!!
        A certain cluster of Rockefeller servants led by Humpback ...... I still remember those reforms - the fight against alcoholism, conversion, self-financing, publicity.
        1. dmikras
          dmikras April 9 2016 07: 36
          0
          Unfortunately yes
          Gorbachev and the company were Soviet authorities
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  29. SIT
    SIT April 8 2016 15: 54
    +2
    But what if the employer is issued a precept, the salary to the hard workers is paid in full and with interest or execution as wreckers and enemies of the people. 10-20 will be shot, others will understand.
  30. vlad_vlad
    vlad_vlad April 8 2016 15: 58
    +4
    Quote: AlexSam
    But what are our cheers patriots silent?



    Patriots are now burying Europe, America, the dollar, the Saudis, etc. - they are busy "abroad" and "how bad they are there." Don't distract them with your boring news about how it is here in Russia.
  31. afrikanez
    afrikanez April 8 2016 16: 15
    +1
    Local "princelings" generally need to be flogged with rods in the central square. Maybe then they will understand that you need to fulfill your duties honestly. angry
  32. tajrov73
    tajrov73 April 8 2016 16: 29
    +2
    And soon the revolution will break out at such a pace, the rebuttal of anyone who writes. The National Guard is not in vain created to pacify the people.
  33. Zubr
    Zubr April 8 2016 16: 29
    +1
    Three days ago I flew from there. I know this pier, we have already commissioned the DPK-100 crane there. Yes Special. The system works there, piles are boarded up, reinforced, concrete is poured. The transformer substation was raised by 1.7 meters. Well, that would have been rumors about the non-payment of salaries. I hear it for the first time.
  34. Starik72
    Starik72 April 8 2016 16: 30
    +3
    But what if you issue a decree not to pay wages, at least ONE YEAR, to deputies of all levels, bureaucrats of managers, the entire banking leadership and other parasites, and to use this money for workers' salaries and pensions, and other things. Do you think it would be useful or not? After all, this will excommunicate them from the state feeder and switch to their non-labor savings.
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem April 8 2016 17: 12
      +1
      official's nightmare - live on a salary ...
      1. for
        for April 8 2016 20: 45
        0
        Quote: dr. sem
        official's nightmare - live on a salary ...


        Yes, for some, a month is enough for my whole life, and even enough for a burial in the Kremlin wall.
  35. sodick
    sodick April 8 2016 16: 36
    +2
    Have you read the new law on government contracts? Money cannot be taken from the account until the state contract is fulfilled. And this is sometimes up to a dozen years on long-term contracts. So enterprises should either take loans at a huge percentage, or something like that ...
    1. tchoni
      tchoni April 8 2016 16: 43
      -1
      I agree. The firm fell into such a situation.
  36. Sagittarius YaNAO
    Sagittarius YaNAO April 8 2016 16: 45
    +1
    At present, inspectors draw up documents for bringing Dalspetsstroy to administrative responsibility.
    And why not a criminal case against the boss? am
  37. Berg berg
    Berg berg April 8 2016 18: 03
    +2
    As they say nothing personal! Calculate how much tangge will be. If you spend two and three months scrolling 10 million in a commercial bank! One percent can live without poverty! That's all the math!
  38. Sibiryak13
    Sibiryak13 April 8 2016 18: 36
    +1
    On the bunk of the guilty! This is a state affair.
  39. for
    for April 8 2016 20: 38
    +1
    I want to believe in the good present and future of the country, but I can’t believe it. And what infuriates not what responsibility.
  40. fa2998
    fa2998 April 8 2016 20: 45
    0
    Well done in "Dalspetsstroy". Sawing on black. Only they were "driven" at the new cosmodrome, they "distinguished themselves" in another place. And no one had the idea to CHANGE THE CONTRACTOR. To see the "support" at the top is good! Monopolist. And objects probably dozens, but the most resonant objects get into the press, those objects that are in sight, just to dig the rest, there probably are generally seams! negative hi
  41. INF
    INF April 8 2016 22: 07
    0
    So find and land !!!
  42. Vlad 59
    Vlad 59 April 8 2016 22: 26
    +1
    "Dalspetsstroy" distinguished itself with non-payment of wages at the Vostochny cosmodrome. They made a noise, Rogozin got promoted again, they forgot. The same picture for shipyards. It seems to me that everything is being solved elementarily, I got it wrong - before participating in tenders for the state. contracts are not allowed, the perpetrators are prosecuted. But for this it is necessary that the responsible officials and law enforcement officers clearly fulfill their duties. Leaving a working man without earned money is the highest degree of ratism!
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null April 8 2016 22: 36
      +1
      Quote: Vlad 59
      "Dalspetsstroy" distinguished itself with non-payment of wages at the Vostochny cosmodrome. They made a noise, Rogozin was again promoted, forgot

      Do not forget.

      Quote: http://www.amur.info/news/2016/01/12/105538
      On the facts of violations during the construction of the Vostochny Cosmodrome 35 criminal cases being investigated. According to the representative of the Vostochny commission, Deputy Prosecutor General of Russia Alexander Buksman, failures in the construction of facilities became the basis for prosecutorial checks.

      The construction of the East in the Amur region is accompanied by a series of corruption scandals. The criminal cases currently under investigation are related to embezzlement of money, abuse of authority, delays in the payment of salaries to workers. According to preliminary data, the damage is more than five billion rubles
  43. mik6403
    mik6403 April 9 2016 06: 16
    +1
    For 100% this is a common problem in Russia. The customer, the state structure, for example, transferred 100 ml of rubles to the contractor (as many as 3 people sit in the cantor of identity in Moscow) .... the contractor transferred 50 ml. rubles to the subcontractor (in the cantor, for example, in Khabarovsk or Vladivostok ... also 5 people in the state) ..... the subcontractor transferred 25 ml to the subcontractor to the contractor. rubles (LLC Horns and Hooves with an authorized capital of 10 rubles) into which workers were recruited under fixed-term employment contracts. The director of LLC Horns and Hooves initially paid money ... he began to hold up the stick and then declared the company bankrupt. So it turns out that the state, like money, pays current to those who work it doesn’t give a damn ...
  44. Earnest
    Earnest April 9 2016 07: 01
    0
    Quote: Amurets
    only with this mess? And you think about it. What will such a policy lead to?

    http://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/news/2016/04/06/636652-minvostokrazvitiya
    http://www.dp.ru/a/2016/04/06/Pravitelstvo_gotovo_razm/
    And this is not all the links. According to the local "Novosti TV Russia-1" it sounded that the agreement was signed. I did not find any links for signing.

    Very well. There is no difference who is the owner of an enterprise operating in the Russian Federation where their own are not capable or do not want to build / open anything. Wim-bil-dans, Toyota and other Renault Nissan give jobs and taxes. But it doesn’t matter to you whether Abramovich will withdraw profit over a hill or what Xin Ping is.
  45. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 9 2016 12: 07
    0
    Shame of course. As with "Radiopribor" in Vladivostok.
    Delayed RFP for workers involved in the defense industry
    should result in the planting of the perpetrators of this.
    Maybe it's time to make a special department that would track these things?
    Because it is a strong influence on defense capability.
    For we are losing young cadres or those who would like to go to work in factories.
    Here, a techie student reads articles about these delays in the RFP and understands
    that he won’t work for the plant.
  46. Mixam
    Mixam April 9 2016 15: 13
    0
    Advances from construction sites for 955 at the beginning of 2015 went to Vostochny, with the tacit consent of Rogozin and the leadership of the Ministry of Defense. They cannot return them back now, it is impossible to legally do this. Apparently there will be no ground infrastructure for boats. Only a pier was built. Someone will go again to ask for an irrevocable subsidy, as in the East.
  47. Demeter
    Demeter April 10 2016 02: 51
    0
    This is just about the arrogant and deceitful statements of Rogozin, Romodanovsky, Grib and the like, about the unwillingness of the population of the Russian Federation to work in production and work in general. Let Rogozin go to the factory and work there for 13000-18000 rubles, which they still don’t pay on time, and hard workers pay salaries of useless Russia to snickering stupid officials who have completely lost touch with the real World.