In Kantemirovskaya division passes bilateral battalion exercises

On Tuesday at the training ground Golovenki (Moscow region), began the bilateral training of units of Kantemirovskaya tank divisions reports press office Western District.

“At the test site, during the oncoming battle, one of the battalions will have to crush the vanguard of a conditional enemy, seize the initiative and secure the encirclement of the main group. As a conditional opponent, a division unit has a similar task, ”the release says.

It is noted that "special attention during the exercise will be paid to the interaction of artillery units with reconnaissance units equipped with reconnaissance, communication and control systems of the Strelets and unmanned aerial vehicles Granat."

At the final stage of the exercise, tankers will perform live firing, “during which the defeat of a conditional enemy armored vehicles will be worked out at distances in 1,8 - 2,2 thousand meters,” the report says.

Shooting will be carried out both during the day and at night "using night-vision devices."

A total of about 800 military personnel and 200 units of various vehicles are involved in the event.

Comments

[Byshido_dis]

Shas will say about Putin’s next aggression ....

[cniza]

Quote: Byshido_dis

Shas will say about Putin’s next aggression ....

Why NATO was not notified in a week, in triplicate.

[Observer2014]

It is interesting how such an action would be dubbed in the West: "Crushing iron-carbide armor of freedom weakly enriched with uranium"?

[poquello]

“At the training ground during the oncoming battle, one of the battalions will have to defeat the vanguard of the conditional enemy, seize the initiative and secure the encirclement of the main group. As a conditional adversary, the division’s division has a similar task. ”

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[Engineer]

Obviously, these exercises are aimed at destabilizing the situation in Ukraine. We are waiting for the reaction of Potroshenko.

[Pvi1206]

The teachings are continuously following one another.
Will it start soon?
Or are we trying to intimidate our "partners"?

[Masya masya]

They scare us ...
Here's another Tamanskaya will connect ...
They certainly will not be laughing!

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Masya Masya

They scare us ...
Here's another Tamanskaya will connect ...
They certainly will not be laughing!

Why is it that smoke was released during the presentation of the F-35 ... theater-goers ...

[Igool]

The smoke at the presentation symbolizes that their car is burning with a blue flame. There are better alternatives.

[vanavatny]

and now it’s not just like that, but as part of the 1st Guards Tank Army

[Pirogov]

I wonder why such a small range of destruction of armored targets, maximum 2.2 km, probably use old shells.

[An60]

At the extreme range of the American embassy, ​​you can accidentally get ....

[Shuttle]

Quote: Pirogov

I wonder why such a small range of destruction of armored targets, maximum 2.2 km, probably use old shells.

Because they’re not going to fight in the desert, bare and flat as a table. Namely in the European part. Where is a hilly plain, forest-steppe, forest with copses. Here it is precisely this specificity that will be.
This defense can be built so that in front of you was the firing sector to the horizon. And that is not always the case.
In addition, it is clear that they are going to carry out something that in real life long ago was not - an oncoming tank battle. It was for such purposes that our tanks were conceived and designed, unlike the American ones. Here are the Germans, they understand our ideology. Because their Leopard is not Abrams at all. They have their own tank concept that actually repeats the ideas of the Wehrmacht. Although they had to fight in the African desert at one time, nevertheless, with us it was in the European theater of operations that they gained much more experience.

[Pirogov]

Quote: Shuttle

Because they’re not going to fight in the desert, bare and flat as a table. Namely in the European part. Where is a hilly plain, forest-steppe, forest with copses. Here it is precisely this specificity that will be.
This defense can be built so that in front of you was the firing sector to the horizon. And that is not always the case.
In addition, it is clear that they are going to carry out something that in real life long ago was not - an oncoming tank battle. It was for such purposes that our tanks were conceived and designed, unlike the American ones. Here are the Germans, they understand our ideology. Because their Leopard is not Abrams at all. They have their own tank concept that actually repeats the ideas of the Wehrmacht. Although they had to fight in the African desert at one time, nevertheless, with us it was in the European theater of operations that they gained much more experience.

You have not discovered America for me, the fact is that articles on domestic tanks always say that the firing range on enemy tanks exceeds 5 km, so I had a question why they only shot at 1.8 and 2.2 km, and I am surprised by so many minuses.

[rubidium]

Quote: Pirogov

about domestic tanks they always write that the firing range on enemy tanks exceeds 5km, so I had a question why they only shot at 1.8 and 2.2 km

5km - the distance of destruction by a guided projectile (missile). The one that only we have had for about 30 years is available. Moreover, such shells fire not only the T72, T80, T90 and SPRUT but also having a 100mm BMP and BMD cannon. And the Americans fighting the Papuans only recently caught on and began to develop such a projectile. The distance of effective tank shooting with conventional shells is kept within 2-2,5 km, even for the latest NATO cannons.

[rubidium]

uh, who told you that this is a small range of defeat of armored targets?
To begin with, we are talking about far from new tanks. Their 2A46M-x gun, like the NATO guns, has an effective range of 2 km. Further expansion is such that it is impossible to get a target like a tank.
Regarding shells: the best American OBPS with a depleted uranium core has armor penetration of about 750 mm at an angle of 0 at a distance of 2 km. I emphasize the best of the existing ones. This does not mean that they are all armed with NATO. But even it is barely enough to defeat the T80U in the forehead at such a distance. There is nothing strange here, given the fact that due attention has not been paid to this topic for about 15 years, or even more. Our OBPS are not only inferior to the American ones, but also the frontal armor of the upgraded Abrams and Leopards2 can withstand the best OBPS at a distance of 2 km. So it will be necessary to shoot and hit on board.
The question here is not so much in armor and armor penetration as in quantity tanks capable of holding back the "best" head shot and delivering the "best" head shot. With this we have anxiety ...

[rubidium]

it is comforting that tanks should not actually fight tanks. Where it is more effective to hit them with ATGMs.

[Pirogov]

Quote: rubidiy

uh, who told you that this is a small range of defeat of armored targets?
To begin with, we are talking about far from new tanks. Their 2A46M-x gun, like the NATO guns, has an effective range of 2 km. Further expansion is such that it is impossible to get a target like a tank.
Regarding shells: the best American OBPS with a depleted uranium core has armor penetration of about 750 mm at an angle of 0 at a distance of 2 km. I emphasize the best of the existing ones. This does not mean that they are all armed with NATO. But even it is barely enough to defeat the T80U in the forehead at such a distance. There is nothing strange here, given the fact that due attention has not been paid to this topic for about 15 years, or even more. Our OBPS are not only inferior to the American ones, but also the frontal armor of the upgraded Abrams and Leopards2 can withstand the best OBPS at a distance of 2 km. So it will be necessary to shoot and hit on board.
The question here is not so much in armor and armor penetration as in the number of tanks capable of holding the "best" shot in the forehead and delivering the "best" shot in the forehead. With this we have anxiety ...

Yes, I did not say that it was small, but I spoke about ammunition, the question is if the tank can shoot at a longer distance, why such firing is not carried out or such training is not needed?

[Spartanez300]

Who battalion more thoughtfully that battalion and win.

[Prager]

he said everything correctly, the way it is!

[Spartanez300]

If possible, give a decryption of your minuses.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Pirogov

I wonder why such a small range of destruction of armored targets

- the target field is arranged there

Quote: Masya Masya

Here's another Tamanskaya to connect ...

- what for? There and two TBs (I think not only the tanks there, probably the infantry were pulled out to learn) already .. a bit crowded .. we know, we’ve been
- the ranges of Taman and Kantemirovki, by the way, are located .. opposite That is, Taman shoots towards the Kantemirovka training ground, and vice versa

At the final stage of the training, tank crews will perform live firing

- are they still fighting? Or is it a regular disc? I don’t believe in "combat" somehow, because of the excitement about the safety of the targets, carts, lifts.

Quote: Spartanez300

Who battalion more thoughtfully that battalion and will win

Quote: Spartanez300

If possible, give a decryption of your minuses.

- comments "about nothing" personally irritate me .. apparently, not only me. Minus is not mine, by the way

[Spartanez300]

Listen to my dear friend, look at your comments from the side, you just do everything that you condemn everyone, and on this site everyone is free to give their opinion. I think it's you who annoy people, behave more modestly.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Spartanez300

everyone is free to leave an opinion on this site

- undoubtedly. Just like the fact that this is it -

Quote: Spartanez300

Who battalion more thoughtfully that battalion and will win

- about nothing, at least. But really - nonsense, one battalion commander the war doctrine does not win.

Dispute?

At the same time, these Golovenki I crawled on my knees at one time, practically. Accordingly, in contrast to you, dear, I can imagine approximately where and how they will "fight" there. And I envy, white envy - in my time such "games" were not performed, IMHO in vain.

Somehow

[Spartanez300]

When Golovenyki, you got the last brains out of the way. I’m not going to belittle your merits if you have them. Here people write what they themselves think.

[Roman 11]

Kantemirovskaya, guards? Tank? It seems like ..... Taman motorized rifle appears. Interestingly, but Preobrazhensky and Semenovsky guards regiments, which division are part of?

[Yugan Oleg]

The good news is It is not enough to put together a tank army, it is also necessary to increase interaction, and to work out new techniques "During the exercise, special attention will be paid to the interaction of artillery units with scouts equipped with Strelets reconnaissance, communications and command and control systems and Granat unmanned aerial vehicles
Train guys, we can have the liberal liberals of the West hunt will fall away to tease the Bear.

[Zlovred]

Hard to learn - easy in battle! Good luck to you - Real Tankers !!!

[Prisoner]

We used to say, "It's hard in training, but in battle, it is!"

[hartlend]

Army exercises are normal, why write about everyone?

[Prisoner]

"In the Kantemirovskaya (in the Guards Tank Order of Lenin's Red Banner) Division ..." and already damn joyful! Kantemirovskaya is alive, the military glory of our fathers and grandfathers is alive !!!

[hobot]

The army woke up and stretched - it pleases. Everyone will not get into the exercises in Syria - you have to train at home on a conditional opponent. It's time to take Ukraine into the boiler.