Why should the Kurds be given autonomy

“The Kurds are historically intertwined in the social fabric of the country,” - this is how the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN, Vitaly Churkin, answered the blocked draft of the inter-Syrian dialogue

6 April The UN Security Council refused to accept Russia's proposal to include Syrian Kurds in the negotiation process. At this time, the Kurdish issue remains the most acutely unresolved in the process of peaceful regulation of the situation in Syria. It is strange and at the same time sad that the Kurdish force - as the most successful in its results - does not take part in the Geneva talks on the Syrian conflict. The reason lies in the country, which has fixed in its Constitution completely undemocratic and extending beyond the boundaries of the civilized world, the expressions “I am proud that I am Turkish!” And “All Turkish citizens are Turks”. Turkey is a country whose “cardinal” is embraced by monarchical goals, as a result of which it slowly but surely leads the country to a political and economic collapse. It is Turkey that strongly opposes the participation of Kurdish representatives in Geneva, in contrast to Russia and the United States, which strongly insist on this.

Why is Turkey opposing the Kurds of Syria? Let's analyze the chain of possible developments: the Kurds of Syria will receive autonomy in the federation => the Kurds of Iraq, who already have a de facto independent Iraqi Kurdistan, are likely to unite with their Syrian brothers => as a result, Syrian-Iraqi Kurdish autonomy will appear => and this is already double, a much significant threat to Turkey. Given the crisis in civilian conditions within the country, additional factors of instability will only exacerbate the situation. Let me remind you that the shaky peace agreements between the Turks and Kurds were interrupted in the summer of 2015 by the terrorist attacks created by Turkey. As a result, the Turkish side is currently conducting a punitive operation against the Kurdish civilian population. The Turkish authorities cannot allow the unification of the Kurdish forces of Iraq and Syria, this is a risk factor for the territorial integrity of the republic. Therefore, Turkey is categorical towards the Syrian Kurds.

However, despite Erdogan’s imperial ambitions, the Syrian Kurds must gain autonomy. It is important to note that autonomy actually exists. Today, the Federation of Northern Syria has been proclaimed Kurds - an area of ​​around 25 thousand square meters. km, which united the three cantons - Jezire, Kobani, Afrin. In the “Federation”, a mutually coordinated self-government was created, with its own drafting of legal provisions and a parliament with an 101-enabled deputy. Gender equality, the three official languages ​​(Kurdish, Arabic and Assyrian), religious freedom, and the last Friday afternoon are already recognized, and religious holidays of various ethnic groups are officially recognized. Thus, autonomy is a positive mirror of what was missing in Syria before the civil war. Let me remind you that one of the causes of the war in the SAR is ethnic and confessional problems. Being an ethnically and religiously motley country, minorities did not feel like full citizens, and the Kurdish government essentially "closes" the gaps of pre-war Syrian legislation.

Kurds should be given autonomy, not because it is the most numerous super-ethnos without statehood, not because of WHAT they are deprived of, but because of the fact that they are strong today. In my opinion, there are three reasons for giving the Kurds autonomy:

- Kurds deserve autonomy due to their success in fighting ISIS (Kurdish troops, after Russia, are the most productive, the most stubborn opponent of the Islamic State and the only ones in the civil war who won over the year and increased the area of ​​controlled territories by 186%),

- the Kurds actually control 14% of the territory of Syria, are not allowed to approach anyone and do not intend to allow,

- Kurds have already created real autonomy with their own legislation, which recognizes the rights of minorities on a par with the Kurds. Thus, autonomy is recognized by the Kurds on a territorial basis, rather than ethnicity. That is why in the naming there is no word “Kurdish”.

Legal coordination "Federation" has not. And the Kurdish initiative is still illegitimate, recognized only unilaterally. Of course, the de jure creation of autonomy in Syria is an extremely complex issue, the solution of which depends on a number of factors in the republic itself and the distribution of geopolitical forces on the world stage. A weighty bit can be brought by Russia - a country that plays a dominant role in the peaceful settlement of the Syrian conflict, a country that can only influence Bashar Assad, a country that the Kurds need and that need friendly allies in the Middle East.

Comments

[Lukich]

the Kurds deserve to gain autonomy in view of their successes in the fight against ISIS (the Kurdish groups, after Russia, are the most productive, the most stubborn opponents of the “Islamic state” and the only ones in the civil war that won and increased the area of ​​controlled territories by 186% over the year),

- the Kurds actually control 14% of the territory of Syria, are not allowed to approach anyone and do not intend to allow,

- Kurds have already created real autonomy with their own legislation, which recognizes the rights of minorities on a par with the Kurds. Thus, autonomy is recognized by the Kurds on a territorial basis, rather than ethnicity. That is why in the naming there is no word “Kurdish”.

here it is necessary to support them with all available legal methods. First of all, provide them with political support at all levels. it will be a big ass in the ass Erdogan

[Basarev]

The main thing is why Turkey does not give way to the Kurds - a religious reason. Kurds are almost the only supporters of traditional Islam, which is completely peaceful. But this confuses all the cards to bloodthirsty Turks.

[venaya]

Quote: Basarev

Kurds are almost the only supporters of traditional Islam,

Forgive me, for many thousands of years of life in these territories, the only Kurds at the moment have preserved absolutely all types of religious cults, replacing each other for many thousands of years. Islam on this list is simply lumbering a religious concession, before that there was Christianity and ancient Persian cults, and even the Yessidi Kurds have a super-ancient religion that is closest to our Old Believers, one root, because they are ancient southern Aryans. Islam itself emerged as a modification of Christianity, which can be seen even in the etymological coincidence of the roots of the words Jesus - Islam. Here is simply worship of the great prophet Magamet, as they say: "the last and never will be."

[Vladimir.z.]

Why are the Kurds not given ..... Yes, because they are not given that they do not have the unity of the people, they have tribal relations — this is a system of relations at the level of the primitive communal tribe or at the level of the patriarchal matriarchal village-kishlak. I judge this on the basis of personal experience watching the Kurds living in our country in Russia. They have one for the red, another for the blue, and third for the green, and the rest are generally unclear for whom, while there is no constancy, they can change who they are for several times in an hour. And why should someone give something to someone if they wanted something they could take .....

[Blondy]

Quote: Basarev

The main thing is why Turkey does not give way to the Kurds

The main thing is why are they listening to Turkey?

[Basarev]

The answer is obvious - Turkey is the largest in area and the most populous country in the Middle East with the strongest army in the region. Plus, Turkey is hiding behind NATO allies.

[venaya]

“I am proud that I am a Turk!” and "All Turkish citizens are Turks».

Here is the answer to the true causes of the problems of this region. Frankly hateful attitudes, even in the Turkish constitution itself, do not allow any people to feel free and protected, not only in the Turkish Republic itself, but even beyond the immediate borders of Turkey. And this is all due to the fact that the Kurds themselves are the autochthonous population of the peninsula, and the super-aggressive Turks in the recent past were simple conquerors.

[VNP1958PVN]

Why should the Kurds be given autonomy

They should not, but are obliged, if only because Erdogan does not want this!

[Nehist]

Bashar Assad does not want this either, and what do you suggest?

[Ayujak]

Quote: venaya

And this is all due to the fact that the Kurds themselves are the autochthonous population of the peninsula, and the super-aggressive Turks in the recent past were simple conquerors.

Unfortunately, such a problem exists in many countries. This is human nature. I think if there were more Kurds, then Turkey would accordingly be Kurdistan, and Turks Kurds. The history of conquests lasts from the Stone Age. If not before. There is nothing to be done with a man

[SklochPensioner]

“The Kurds are historically woven into the social fabric of the country” is a normal statement of fact. Support the Kurds in the fight against "IS" and other abominations - yes, of course. Support the Kurds in building the Federation - no, thank you!
This should be done by the country - Syria - and its citizens.

In the picture ... uh ... the personification of the "Federation of Northern Syria"?)))

[PKK]

The picture shows the brutal French Maidan for English money. The people of the Kurds gave birth and raised strong people. They grew to the level where independence can be demanded. The Kurds have enough strength with the support of Russia to free themselves from Erdogan.

[Nehist]

And here Erdrogan? Asad wrote above is also against. And what do you propose an escalation of the conflict between the Syrian army and the Kurds?

[Basarev]

The difference is that Assad is against, but he is a supporter of the negotiation process and he understands the scale of the Kurdish problem ... And indeed, he recognizes their right to exist. Erdogan just wants to exterminate all the Kurds.

[Cat man null]

Information for consideration, so to speak:

Jamil Kochoyan, a political international journalist, is a Kurdish woman, winner of the Challenge-XXI Century All-Russian Competition for Young Journalists

It would be strange if she wrote something else about Kurdish autonomy, IMHO.

[EvgNik]

Therefore, Turkey is categorical regarding the Syrian Kurds.

Turkey is against all Kurds - the neighbor will be too inconvenient for it (if the Kurds manage to unite). Therefore, he destroys "his" Kurds.

[martin-159]

in the naming there is no word "Kurdish".
While there is no autonomy, I do not presume to predict further. Appetite comes with eating.

[Very old]

Quote: Basarev

The main thing is why Turkey does not give way to the Kurds - a religious reason. Kurds are almost the only supporters of traditional Islam, which is completely peaceful. But this confuses all the cards to bloodthirsty Turks.

Do not forget: the Kurds still live in Iraq, Iran, Azerbaijan, Syria
Here is a card layout
Everything is not so clear

Rejop, of course, is not just (e) Turks - he is an Ottoman, dreaming of the return of the former "greatness" of the Empire, of the leading role of Turkey in the "Obezhenka" region, whether he understands ... Ambitions!

[Nehist]

In your opinion, is Russia also offended by the time of regaining the greatness of the empire and its leading role in the regions of the Middle East?

[Mihalich17]

It is necessary in Syria to build a "system of balances" and, best of all, let the legally elected President Bashar al-Assad, together with the peoples inhabiting Syria, do this!
Syria can only be a single country, it is not that big to "federalize"! And Erdogan himself will soon "reach" a civil war in his own country ... He is too harsh and emotional as a leader, even for a country like Turkey. In general, military successes will be the main and determining factor in the restoration of Syria. Good luck to the Syrian people in this construction!
P.S. And, "if that", then - Russia is always near! ;)))

[Sergej1972]

The Federation is not contraindicated to all small countries or territories. At the same time, not all large countries require it.

[Mikhail m]

The issue of the emergence of independent Kurdistan on the political map is just a matter of time. If a whole nation wants this, then no one can stop it. It is possible to help or hinder the process, but the outcome will be unequivocal.

[Nehist]

Not everything is so simple, there are many who want independence, but things are still there !!! All of these independence is nothing more than liberal shitty democratic attempts! You see, Merikos and the Kurds will be helped in the wake of gaining independence to overthrow Assad and ruin Syria

[0255]

Quote: Nehist

You see, Merikos and the Kurds will be helped in the wake of gaining independence to overthrow Assad and ruin Syria

The United States has long supported them, under the pretext of fighting Daesh. Now 2 airbases are being built on the territory of the Kurds in Syria. It seems to me that the Syrian Kurdistan Americans will be torn away from Syria like Kosovo, Russia will be able to respond with a decisive note of protest. It will be possible to drive them out of there only with missile and bomb strikes at their bases, but it is unlikely that anyone will go for it.

[Nehist]

Probably! The United States, no matter who they support, is important for them not stability in the region, they say they need controlled chaos. By the way, when Saddam was overthrown, they also did not help the Iraqi Kurds. As a result, de facto it seems like in Iraq the Kurds are in the form of autonomy, but if a strong personality appears there and all their autonomy turns out to be zilch

[rotmistr60]

unlike Russia and USAstrongly insisting on this.

Another thing is strange. Why did the Americans not use all the leverage they had to get the resolution passed? Or have they decided to play "democracy" on this issue and at the same time show Erdogan that he is a partner and ally?

[Nehist]

Exactly you are right! Then they will help the offended Kurds to gain independence from the evil oppressor of the Kurdish people, Bashar Assad

[sa-ag]

The participation of an author with such a surname in the fate of the Kurds looks interesting, especially if you take part in the events of 1916

[Sergej1972]

Among the Yezidi Kurds, for example, there are many people with Armenian surname endings. Representatives of most Kurdish parties and public organizations apologized to the Armenians for participating in the genocide. In any case, Armenia and Armenian politicians are not making claims against the Kurds now.

[atamankko]

Let the Syrians think for themselves what to do with the autonomy of the Kurds,
but it is necessary to decide after the election, and everyone should understand this.

[Disorder]

Thus, autonomy is a positive mirror of what was missing in Syria before the civil war. Let me remind you that one of the causes of the war in the SAR is ethno-confessional problems. Being an ethnically and religiously motley country, minorities did not feel like full citizens, and the Kurdish government essentially “closes” the gaps in pre-war Syrian legislation.

Syria before this mess was a fairly stable state, and ethno-confessional problems as the cause of the war are in one of the last places. An example is the family of Bashar al-Assad. Bashar himself belongs to the Alawites, which are closer to the Shiites, and his wife Asma belongs to the Sunnis. And it’s not a civil war. There is ISIS intervention and heated outside separatist sentiments.

- Kurds deserve autonomy due to their success in fighting ISIS (Kurdish troops, after Russia, are the most productive, the most stubborn opponent of the Islamic State and the only ones in the civil war who won over the year and increased the area of ​​controlled territories by 186%),

- the Kurds actually control 14% of the territory of Syria, are not allowed to approach anyone and do not intend to allow,

Ahhhh. Kurds should get autonomy not because they are Kurds, but because they are the coolest ISIS fighters. Because they control 14% of the territory of Syria.

- the Kurds have already created a real autonomy with their own legislation, which recognizes the rights of minorities on a par with the Kurds. Thus, autonomy is recognized by the Kurds on a territorial basis, and not ethnic. That is why there is no word “Kurdish” in the naming.

But autonomy is not territorial, but ethnic.

... three official languages ​​(Kurdish, Arabic and Assyrian), ...

Kurdish ethnic group is part of Syria. But now it is proposed to establish Kurdish autonomy, which will include ethnic groups that speak Arabic and Assyrian languages. Matryoshka turns out.

PS Given the nationality of the author of the article, there is nothing to be surprised. From the article it blows with the idea of ​​the revival of Kurdistan. But there are few prospects - Turkey will not give up its territory. In addition, Iranian Kurdistan is not mentioned in the article - Iran will also be against. And the unification of the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds is doubtful, given the fact that Iraqi Kurds traded oil with Turkey, and this trade was suppressed to a greater extent by their Syrian tribesmen.

PPS After this article, the thought creeps in - was Saddam Hussein wrong when he was tyrannizing the Kurds in Iraq?

[Sergej1972]

Matryoshka due to the fact that the region is multinational, although with a predominance of Kurds. Within this autonomy there are territories dominated by Arabs or Assyrians. For example, here is how in Karelia, Komi, Mordovia, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, Yakutia, Buryatia and a number of other internal republics in a significant part of the territory, in many cities and regions Russians are numerically predominant. And in some republics Russians in general, throughout the entire territory, prevail. And, say, in the same Bashkiria there are regions with a predominance of the Tatar population. I understand that the example is somewhat artificial. In particular, in our country, in a significant part of these republics, Russians do not live inside the "titular" encirclement, but in large territorial tracts bordering on the Russian territories and regions. And many republics were created solely for political reasons, and the borders are completely artificial, voluntaristic in nature.

[Sergej1972]

“Federation of Northern Syria” is not a very good name. Indeed, in essence, this is autonomy within the unitary state of Syria.

[gukoyan]

Kurds are a very strong group that helps in the fight against world evil, they are very good wars, the legacy of the great Saladin in their blood has survived to our times, and they clearly demonstrate this ...

[the finish]

Kurds deserve what they have; they are punished by the highest for the blood they shed in 1915. The genocide was planned and carried out by the Turks by the hands of the Kurds. You cannot build your happiness on someone else’s grief, which proves the wheel of history.

[Warrior2015]

Quote: finish

The Kurds deserve what they have. They are punished by the highest for the blood that they shed in 1915 year.

I can not confirm your words! Unfortunately, among the Turkish irregular troops, the Kurds really stood out for their cruelty to the civilian population - and not only during the First World War, but also during all the Russian-Turkish wars.

[Khachik Khachikyan]

Now, probably, the main thing is that Assad make the right choice between Turks and Kurds i.e. between the collapse of the country and the autonomy of the Kurds. He probably already at first understood that it was not necessary to make an almost irreparable mistake to allow the Turks to enter Syria because of the oversight of the Kurds, but they were probably forced to. But there is a chance to get out of this situation, to give the Kurds autonomy with an agreement that they will not separate from Syria, but instead, the Kurds will probably get a separate country already in the country that wanted to destroy them and more extensive than they could take from Syria, well, of course, not the one they draw on the Internet, they themselves think that this is not real. e. 4-5 countries to collapse in order to give them land for Kurdistan, but in a separate and worthy country it is quite possible.