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Memorial Day for the dead submariners

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The profession of a submariner is one of the most difficult, honorable and at the same time heroic. 7 April in Russia celebrate the Day of the memory of the dead submariners. On this day, 7, April, 1989, in the Norwegian Sea, the K-278 nuclear submarine Komsomolets, the deepest in the world, crashed. Recall that the nuclear submarine "Komsomolets" was launched in 1983 year. At that time, it was one of the most advanced nuclear submarines in the world. It was believed that nuclear submarines of this class of years on the 25 ahead of their time. When the nuclear submarine "Komsomolets" was returning from combat duty, there was a fire on it. As a result of the fire, the boat lost buoyancy and sank to the bottom. From the 69 man, the submarine crew killed the 42 man. In May, the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR “On awarding the Order of the Red Banner to members of the crew of the submarine Komsomolets” was published in May 1989. Six years later, in 1995, 7 of April was declared the Day of Memory of the submariners of the crew of the Komsomolets submarine - the Day of Memory of the dead submariners. This day is inscribed in tragic pages. history Russian naval fleet.


Memorial Day for the dead submariners


The profession of a submariner remains one of the most dangerous military professions. Regardless of whether wartime or peacetime, the sailors of the submarine fleet regularly risk their lives. No one knows if they will be able to return from a hike. And it is very important to remember those people who will never raise a toast on the Day of the Navy, will not do many things that could be done if they choose a different way of life for themselves. But the path chosen by submariners cannot be disregarded. This is the path of risk, the path of courage and military honor. Who in Russia does not even know the names of the submarines that crashed during peacetime. However, can it be peaceful for submariners? After all, the submarines are always on duty, and every day soldiers - submarines carry their service.
After 11 years after the tragedy on the Komsomolets nuclear submarine, a no less terrible story befell the Kursk nuclear submarine. 12 August 2000, the explosion of a torpedo ammunition in the first compartment of the submarine, the entire crew of the submarine, the 118 man, was tragically killed. Officers, warrant officers, sailors of the Russian Navy died in the line of duty, fulfilling their duty to protect the Russian state. As is known, 10 August 2000, according to the plan of the Northern Fleet exercises, the Kursk went to sea to carry out a combat training task near the Kola Bay. The submarine commander was the captain of the 1 rank Gennady Lyachin.

The graduate of the Higher Naval School of Diving named after the Lenin Komsomol Gennady Petrovich Lyachin was 45 years old. Gennady Lyachin was appointed commander of the K-141 nuclear submarine cruiser Kursk in the 1996 year. Over the four years of the Kursk command, 1 rank captain Lyachin managed to turn the submarine into one of the best ships of the Russian Navy. In 1999, the K-141 Kursk was recognized as the best in the 7 Division. 10 August 2000, the Kursk nuclear-powered icebreaker went to the open sea for planned exercises. The tasks of the submarine "Kursk" included the launch of a cruise missile and training torpedo firing at a detachment of warships. The boat could accomplish this goal calmly - after all, on board were the X-NUMX P-24 “Granit” cruise missiles and the 700 torpedoes.

The events of that day developed rapidly. In the 11: 28, the hydroacoustics on the cruiser "Peter the Great" recorded cotton. Commander of the ship "Peter the Great" captain 1 rank Vladimir Katasonov did not attach importance to this clap. The fact that the submarine "Kursk" crashed, the command of the fleet learned in the evening. In 23.00, the submarine commander did not reconnect. In 23.30, the nuclear submarine "Kursk" was declared "emergency". However, rescue work began late. They continued from 13 to 22 in August and were carried out by the forces of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy. Only 20 of August, ten days later, the Norwegian vessel Seaway Eagle was allowed to rescue. On board were qualified specialists in the conduct of underwater emergency rescue operations. On August 21, specialists from the Norwegian ship managed to open the aft escape hatch of the nuclear submarine Kursk. However, it was already too late - it remained only to save the bodies of the dead Russian sailors and the documents that were on the nuclear submarine. Six Russian and six Norwegian divers were directly involved in the rescue operation. But their efforts were in vain - already none of the crew members of the Russian submarine could not be saved.

Only a few days after the incident, Russian President Vladimir Putin interrupted his vacation, which he spent in the city of Sochi. The words of the Russian president were spread all over the world - when asked by American TV host Larry King about what happened to the Kursk submarine, the president answered concisely - “She drowned”. Subsequently, these words of the Russian president will be the reason for numerous speculations on the part of his political opponents and opponents. In accordance with the presidential decree of 26.08.2000 No. 1578, everyone on board was posthumously awarded the Order of Courage. The commander of the nuclear submarine "Kursk" captain 1 rank Gennady Lyachin was awarded the title Hero of the Russian Federation posthumously.

The death of the submarine "Kursk" has caused numerous disputes in the top naval leadership of Russia. In 2002, the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Vladimir Kuroyedov, stated that the command had made a number of mistakes, which, however, could not be the cause of the terrible tragedy that unfolded on the Russian submarine. Naturally, after the publication of official data on the death of the submarine "Kursk", the question arose about what could have caused the tragedy. According to the official version sounded by the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Vladimir Ustinov, 11 hours 28 minutes 26 seconds Moscow time there was an explosion of the torpedo 65-76А ("Kit") in the torpedo tube number 4 of the nuclear submarine Kursk.

According to another version, which was voiced by Valery Ryazantsev, who was part of the government commission to investigate the causes and circumstances of the catastrophe of the nuclear submarine Kursk, the first explosion of the 65-76 PT torpedo was due to its replenishment with non-greasy high-pressure air. The second explosion, according to this version, occurred due to the collision of a nuclear submarine with the ground. Another, fairly common version, is that the submarine could be torpedoed by an American submarine. However, the official version, voiced by representatives of the Russian authorities, did not support this point of view. Meanwhile, the version of the torpedoing of a Russian nuclear submarine by an American submarine is shared by some foreign analysts and journalists. In particular, the French director Jean-Michel Carré emphasizes that the Russian nuclear submarine Kursk could have been torpedoed by the American submarine Memphis. According to Carr’s version, the Russian leadership did not deliberately voice the version about torpedoing a Russian submarine with an American submarine in order to prevent the deterioration of the already tense relations between the Russian Federation and the United States of America.



Another widespread version suggests the possibility of a collision of a nuclear submarine "Kursk" with a certain underwater object. Thus, the captain of the first rank, Mikhail Volzhensky, who once was a member of a government commission that accepted a submarine from a military industrial enterprise, is convinced that the torpedo in the nuclear submarine apparatus could have jammed due to a strong mechanical strike on the hull. Admiral Vyacheslav Popov, who at that time held the post of commander of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy, agreed with this version. Thus, according to the admiral, an unidentified submarine could crash into the "most vulnerable spot" of the nuclear submarine Kursk. Light on the causes of the crash of a Russian nuclear submarine could be shed by the logs of the central nuclear post, the rough logbook, the logbooks of the left and right side control of the Kursk nuclear submarine, which, by the way, were discovered during rescue operations on board the submarine . However, the analysis of these documents did not give naval experts comprehensive information on the causes of the death of the submarine.

As of 19 December 2000, 73 was extracted and 65 bodies of dead officers, warrant officers and sailors of the Russian Navy serving in the Kursk nuclear submarine were identified. By 20 March, 2002 was able to detect and identify the bodies of the 115 dead submariners. It should be noted that the rise of the nuclear submarine "Kursk" was the first operation to lift a nuclear submarine sunken at the depth. The operation to lift the nuclear submarine was carried out for a whole year. As a result of the operation of raising the nuclear submarine Kursk, 115 bodies of dead officers, midshipmen and sailors of the Russian Navy were found and buried. But the three bodies of the victims were never found - these are the bodies of two submariners, Dmitry Kotkov and Ivan Nefedkov, as well as the chief specialist of Dagdiesel, Mamed Hajiyev. At the same time, from the bottom of the Barents Sea, the specialists who conducted the operation to lift the submarine were able to evacuate the potentially dangerous combat reserve of the boat and two nuclear reactors.

The death of the Kursk nuclear submarine was a tragedy not only for seafarers of the Russian submarine fleet and their family members, but also for millions of caring Russian citizens, residents of other states, primarily the republics of the former Soviet Union. Commemorative signs were installed in memory of those killed in a whole number of cities in the country. Among these cities are Moscow, St. Petersburg, Nizhny Novgorod, Zaozersk, Severodvinsk, Sestroretsk, Sevastopol, Kursk, a number of other cities and towns of the Russian Federation. In Volgograd, on the school building number 85, a memorial plaque was opened in honor of its graduate captain 1 rank Gennady Lyachin, who served as commander of the nuclear submarine Kursk. A number of schools in various regions of the Russian Federation are named after the officers and sailors of the nuclear submarine Kursk.

The profession of a seaman - submariner and today is considered one of the most difficult, most risky and honorable military professions. Submariners, regardless of titles, experience and qualifications, are regularly exposed to mortal risk. At any time, a submariner, whether an officer, midshipman, foreman or sailor, can die. This is known and appreciated not only by colleagues, but also by the command of the Navy of the Russian Federation, the leadership of the Russian Federation. But, despite the numerous risks associated with the daily service of submariners, this profession does not cease to be one of the most respected and revered in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. As before, thousands of young people are striving to link their life path with service in the submarine forces of the Russian Navy. On Memorial Day for the dead submariners, all of us who are involved in and not involved in this heroic service, it remains to honor the memory of real heroes who gave their lives in the name of our country, who found their last refuge in the depths of the sea. Eternal memory to you, heroes, submariners!
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  1. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 7 2016 06: 15
    +36
    I read how I opened the wound. Eternal memory to the crew!
    1. Schultz
      Schultz April 7 2016 10: 51
      +18
      Let us remember their brothers by name - in secret and conciliar:
      captain of the 2nd rank Avanesov Oleg Grigoryevich - senior assistant to the submarine commander (buried), Art. sailor Apanasevich Igor Olegovich - commander of the department of steering signalman BS-1 (taken by sea),
      captain of the 2nd rank Babenko Valentin Ivanovich - commander of the BS-5 (buried), midshipman Bondar Sergey Stefanovich - mechanic-turbine technician BS-5 (taken by sea), midshipman Brodsky Yuri Anatolyevich midshipman technician sonar RTS (buried), captain 1st rank Burkulakov Talant Amitzhanovich - head of the political department of the headquarters of the division (interred), Art. Sailor Bukhnikashvili Nadari Otariyevich - batch operator BCh-5 (taken by sea),
      Midshipman Valyavin Mikhail Nikolaevich - technician of the remote control group БЧ-5 (taken by the sea), captain of the 1st rank Vanin Evgeny Alekseevich - submarine commander (taken by the sea), Art. sailor Vershilo Evgeny Edmundovich - electrician БЧ-5 (taken by sea), captain-lieutenant Volkov Nikolay Alekseevich - commander of the electrical group БЧ-5 (put to land), captain 3 ranks Volodin Alexander Vasilievich - commander of БЧ-4 (taken by sea),
      foreman 2 tbsp. Golovchenko Sergey Petrovich - senior cook instructor (interred), sailor Grundul Aleksey Aleksandrovich - torpedo officer БЧ-3 (interred),
      Art. midshipman Elenik Mikhail Anatolyevich - senior cook instructor (buried),
      midshipman Zamogilny Sergey Vasilievich - foreman of a team of electricians БЧ-5 (interred), Lieutenant Zimin Vadim Vladimirovich - communications engineer БЧ-4 (taken by sea),
      captain of the 3rd rank Ispenkov Anatoly Matveyevich - commander of the electromechanical division БЧ-5 (buried),
      midshipman Kapusta Yuri Fedorovich - chief of the secret unit (taken by sea), midshipman Kovalev Gennady Vyacheslavovich - communication technician БЧ-4 (taken by sea), midshipman Kolotilin Vladimir Vasilievich - technician of the remote control group БЧ-5 (taken by sea), midshipman Alexander Krasnobaev - RTS electro-computing group technician (interred), sailor Krasnov Sergey Yuryevich - RTS radiometer (taken by sea), sailor Kulapin Vladimir Yuryevich - turbine driver БЧ-5 (interred),
      captain of the 3rd rank Maksimchuk Yuri Ivanovich - deputy nuclear submarine (taken by sea), captain of the 3rd rank Manyakin Sergey Petrovich - commander of the movement division BC-5 (interred), Art. Lieutenant Markov Sergey Evgenievich - engineer of the electrotechnical group БЧ-5 (interred), sailor Mikhalev Andrei Vyacheslavovich - batch-engine operator БЧ-5 (taken by sea), lieutenant Igor Molchanov - commander of the БЧ-3 (interred)
      captain-lieutenant Yevgeny Vladimirovich Naumenko - commander of the RTS computing group (taken by sea), warrant officer Nakhalov Sergey Vasilievich - foreman of the radio telegraph team BS-4 (interred), captain-lieutenant Nezhutin Sergei Alexandrovich - commander of the OCHNAZ BC-4 (interred),
      captain-lieutenant Smirnov Mikhail Anatolyevich - commander of the BS-1 (interred), captain-lieutenant Speransky Igor Leonidovich - engineer of the sonar group RTS (taken by sea), art. Sailor (midshipman) Sukhanov Valery Ivanovich - cook instructor (taken by sea),
      Art. midshipman Tkach Vladimir Vlasovich - foreman of the crew of signal crews БЧ-1 (taken by the sea), sailor Tkachev Vitaliy Fedorovich - steering-signalman БЧ-1 (taken by the sea),
      sailor Filippov Roman Konstantinovich - electrician БЧ-5 (interred),
      Midshipman Chernikov Sergey Ivanovich - chemical technician CS (buried),
      Art. sailor Shinkunas Stasis Klemensovich - RTS radiometer (taken by sea), Lieutenant Alexander Shostak - engineer of the remote control group БЧ-5 (interred),
      Captain of the 3rd rank Yudin Vyacheslav Aleksandrovich - commander of the survivability division БЧ-5 (taken by sea).
      1. Idiot
        Idiot April 7 2016 11: 19
        +7
        As far as I remember, Ispenkov was at the end with diesel engines and died with a boat. Everlasting memory.
      2. Idiot
        Idiot April 7 2016 11: 19
        0
        As far as I remember, Ispenkov was at the end with diesel engines and died with a boat. Everlasting memory.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik April 7 2016 06: 16
    +24
    Eternal memory, heroes ..
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich April 7 2016 06: 16
    +32
    They left. They will never return.
    They do not hug their wives, do not kiss.
    From the threshold of the house they can’t look back,
    And do not open the door with your key.

    They went into immortality, in the lines of letters.
    The sobbing of wives, the wrinkles of mothers.
    Last time the marina let them go
    Into the cold silence of the seas.

    They left ... A mourning shore ...
    Their native port roars with sirens ...
    And wives, children, mothers do not believe
    That the crew will not come back.

    author of the poem Lilia Lycheva
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 7 2016 06: 21
    +8
    Remember, mourn. Project 677.
    Third for the dead.
  5. Amurets
    Amurets April 7 2016 06: 27
    +8
    Good memory to the submariners! Everyone who died in the war and peacetime. Those who never returned from campaigns. It’s not time to do the analysis today, just on this day you need to remember all the dead submariners in the history of the Russian Submarine.
    1. water
      water April 7 2016 13: 36
      +6
      All memory of the dead!
      But, memory was given to us not only in order to remember. It helps to draw conclusions from the experience to go forward without making mistakes that have already taken place!

      Memory! - Fearing for the fate of his subordinates, the commander of the 9th compartment of the Kursk, Lieutenant-Commander Kolesnikov, even when he was dead, managed to give the deep-sea diver S. Shmygin a full report on what had happened with a detailed list of personnel!
      And what about the living !? - And the living at this time, reporting to the Supreme Commander that there was nothing to save, urgently cut the hull of the rescue submarine for scrap metal and urgently issued documents for the write-off of the ship-lifting vessel "Karpaty".
  6. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi April 7 2016 06: 42
    +20
    Magomed Gadzhiev: "Nowhere is there such equality as exists on a submarine, where everyone either wins or perishes"
    You can’t say more.
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 April 7 2016 06: 50
    +9
    What can I say: the boat is dying - the whole or almost the entire crew is dying.
  8. kuz363
    kuz363 April 7 2016 06: 56
    +3
    For her words "She drowned!" the president should not have been elected at all later. And it was said with a smile! But the Russians are kind, easy-going. All have forgotten!
    I read detailed explanations of the submariners. "Kursk" was doomed in a state of collapse of the fleet. The crew never "!" did not shoot "fatties", was not prepared for the specifics of working with peroxide torpedoes. During the investigation, it turned out that the leadership had forged documents to check the technical condition of the torpedo and train personnel. When loading the boat, one of the torpedoes was damaged and the resulting microcracks led to a leak of hydrogen peroxide with the formation of an explosive mixture in the torpedo tube. And there was information that the submarine commander wanted to urgently shoot this torpedo, but did not have time. And the quality of the high pressure, non-fat and dirty air also played a role. For conventional torpedoes, this did not matter much, but for peroxide torpedoes, it turned out to be tragic. As a result, these most powerful torpedoes were removed from service, which brought great joy to the United States.
    1. Boos
      Boos April 7 2016 07: 15
      +6
      I need to watch "Commander of the Happy Pike" today, my favorite movie ...
    2. go21zd45few
      go21zd45few April 7 2016 08: 15
      +17
      kuz 361. What kind of heresy are you carrying, one of the torpedoes was damaged before the appearance of micro cracks, that it was dropped during loading. You use the information that the media gave out at that time. Yes, and torpedo firing is similar, independent of the design, but the service is different. Kursk died due to the fault of the fleet command that mediocre planned these firing, why were there foreign submarines during the exercises in the training ground there were guard ships, and why the acoustics at Peter the Great qualified cotton and not explosion
      and the commander of the cruiser did not pay attention to this report. But to accept an explosion of such power as cotton is unprofessionalism. I served in the 60s of the last century on the SF platoon in the BCh-3 (mine torpedo) and I know very well how such exercises were conducted. Kursk was sunk due to the illiterate leadership of the fleet command and that mess that existed at that time in all the Armed Forces of Russia. A bright memory to the sailors of the submariners to the end and with honor fulfilling their duty. I wish the current sailors submariners that the number of dives = the number of ascent.
      1. kuz363
        kuz363 April 7 2016 21: 21
        -1
        "Yes, and firing torpedoes are similar, independent of the design" Nothing like that. The preparation of the torpedo for firing depends on the design features. The crew did not know this. And the "fatty" was significantly different from conventional torpedoes. By the way, Germany tried to use peroxide torpedoes in the war. But due to the unstable work, spontaneous explosions during launch, they later refused
        1. mine
          mine April 7 2016 22: 19
          0
          Quote: kuz363
          The crew did not know this. And the "fatty" was significantly different from conventional torpedoes. By the way, Germany tried to use peroxide torpedoes in the war. But due to the unstable work, spontaneous explosions during launch, they later refused

          DON'T eat nonsense, it hurts
          preparation was carried out both on 7 dpl (including with firing) so ...

          Well, peroxide torpedoes were normally in service with the USA, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and today - the Polish Navy
          photo from fresh firing peroxide poles recently laid out
      2. dzzen
        dzzen April 8 2016 03: 52
        +2
        Research Institute "Gidropribor" does not make bad torpedoes. Those who are supposed to know about the real causes of the tragedy know, so there is no need to write any heresy about ineptly organized firing and cracks in the torpedo. Let's just remember the soldiers of Russia.

        R.S. At the time of the tragedy, the boat was at periscope depth, on a command about what happened, Moscow reached everything in a matter of minutes, just if we answered at that moment, maybe no one would have written these comments.
        1. mine
          mine April 9 2016 00: 13
          0
          Quote: dzzen
          Research Institute "Gidropribor" does not make bad torpedoes.

          You probably wanted to say that they make VERY bad torpedoes?
          Then - I agree
    3. Finches
      Finches April 7 2016 08: 27
      +11
      kHz 361 But now, when you just need to pay tribute to the memory of the dead sailors, you begin to breed political provocations - why ?? No other forums for this or what?
    4. Serg65
      Serg65 April 7 2016 10: 08
      +9
      Quote: kuz363
      For her words "She drowned!" the president should not have been elected at all later. And it was said with a smile! But the Russians are kind, easy-going. All have forgotten!

      Vladimir, it’s a sin to PR on the death of heroes.
      Quote: kuz363
      I read detailed explanations of the submariners. "Kursk" was doomed in a state of collapse of the fleet.

      But this corresponds to the truth and the question arises ... and who did this ????
      Back in 1983, the nuclear submarine K-429, project 670, sank off the coast of Kamchatka; the chief of staff of the 2nd flotilla, to which the submarine was assigned, was none other than Rear Admiral O.A. Erofeev. The death of the boat lies entirely on him and the division commander, Kaperang N.N. Alkaev. In 1992, Erofeev, already in the rank of admiral, became the commander of the Northern Fleet. Among the "exploits" of this admiral, in particular, the defeat of the 88th brigade of the ACC, ships and divers of this particular brigade could have saved the surviving crew members, but alas, the ACC not only of the Northern Fleet, but the entire Russian fleet at that time simply no longer existed.
      1. victorrychkov
        victorrychkov April 7 2016 22: 09
        +1
        As I told the hero of the Soviet Union, Vice Admiral Chernov E.D. when transferring the affairs and responsibilities of the team member 1 PL PL SF Erofeev, (Chernov E.D. had to specially return to his former duty station on the New Year holidays in 1989, because Erofeev did not arrive at the new duty station on time for the duty station), expressed Erofeev his opinion that Komsomomolets is so unique, so you don’t need to drive it like all other boats. It is necessary to accumulate operating experience, so that later when there are others, and a series of 8 units was planned, there would be less problems. Everything else is known and once passed (K-429) non-linear crew - drowning - promotion.
    5. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 April 7 2016 12: 19
      +4
      Quote: kuz363
      And it was said with a smile! But the Russians are kind, resourceful. All have forgotten!

      I saw and remember, it was just that. Then it hit me very much. Not everyone has forgotten.
      1. Wanderer 2008
        Wanderer 2008 April 7 2016 13: 44
        +3
        I remember very well with what grin Larry King asked V.V. Putin, what happened to the submarine. To such a tricky question, Putin calmly answered and at the same time without any smile, as some believe, namely, succinctly replied "She drowned." When Larry King asked his question, do you think you didn't know what happened to the Kursk?
        1. BIGLESHIY
          BIGLESHIY April 7 2016 15: 51
          0
          Quote: Wanderer 2008
          I remember very well with what grin Larry King asked V.V. Putin, what happened to the submarine. To such a tricky question, Putin calmly answered and at the same time without any smile, as some believe, namely, succinctly replied "She drowned." When Larry King asked his question, do you think you didn't know what happened to the Kursk?


          Where Larry’s grin is not visible, but Vova’s grin is visible to everyone.
    6. Rezident007
      Rezident007 April 7 2016 13: 32
      +1
      It is especially alarming that when KURSK was being raised, the right side was strictly forbidden to photograph and shoot on video .. and there was a round hole, concave inward ... it becomes terribly from the fact that its US nuclear submarine "harpooned" ...
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    8. mine
      mine April 7 2016 20: 00
      0
      Quote: kuz363
      For her words "She drowned!" the president should not have been elected at all later. And it was said with a smile! But the Russians are kind, easy-going. All have forgotten!

      In the history of the Kursk, the President behaved quite well.
      The only moment is the mass dismissal at the end after Ryazatsev’s stupid and deceitful slander, where the fleet lost a number of strong and promising commanders, the loss of which has still plagued him.
      As for the "phrase" - what was the question - this is the answer.

      П
      When loading onto a boat, one of the torpedoes was damaged and the resulting microcracks led to the leakage of hydrogen peroxide with the formation of an explosive mixture in the torpedo tube. And there was information that the boat commander wanted to urgently shoot this torpedo, but did not have time. And the quality of non-fat and dirty high-pressure air also played a role.

      these are nonsense not related to reality
    9. mult-65
      mult-65 April 7 2016 22: 00
      +1
      And what does the new 8-month-old Pres have to do with it? He at this time with the Family was biting for power.
    10. vovanpain
      vovanpain 3 December 2016 15: 28
      +7
      Quote: kuz363
      For her words "She drowned!" the president should not have been elected at all later. And it was said with a smile! But the Russians are kind, easy-going. All have forgotten!

      In memory of the fallen submariners, not only the Kursk nuclear submarine, but all those who did not return from the campaign, let’s not mix the policy dear, we will discuss in another topic. Respectfully colleague. hi Eternal memory, REMEMBER!
  9. crasever
    crasever April 7 2016 07: 12
    +6
    Glory to our sailors !!! Eternal memory to those who did not return from the campaign ... And the submariners who terrify the enemies of Russia, I wish the fulfillment of the two cherished desires of each underwater warrior - to drown an enemy aircraft carrier and perform a "loophole" in a submarine!
  10. Lyton
    Lyton April 7 2016 07: 15
    +8
    The kingdom of heaven is to all the dead submariners, we probably don’t know the truth about Kursk during our lifetime, maybe our grandchildren will be told the real reason for this tragedy.
  11. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 7 2016 07: 24
    +7
    The memory of the "Kursk" is not only the memory of the lost crew, but also the memory of a time when it could hardly have happened otherwise, the entire fleet (and not only the fleet) could suffer the same fate. "Kursk" shook the army and navy from hibernation and carelessness, forced a lot to reconsider and rethink. Bright memory to the crews of the lost boats ...
  12. annodomene
    annodomene April 7 2016 07: 27
    +20
    Eternal memory to submariners ... And in general to everyone who died in the ocean ...

    Only BZ and YR were not "evacuated" from the seabed, this is impossible. We did this a little later, after lifting the pla.
    "... the journals of the central atomic post ..." - there are no such as the "atomic post" itself, "... the draft logbook ..." does not exist, there is the logbook of the watchtower central post, "... control logs of the left and right sides of the nuclear submarine ... "- probably the logs of the control panel of the power plant of the right and left sides were meant. Sorry, I grumble like an old man, for order.

    Everlasting memory...
  13. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 7 2016 07: 45
    +3
    [I]
    Quote: Lyton
    The kingdom of heaven is to all the dead submariners, we probably don’t know the truth about Kursk during our lifetime, maybe our grandchildren will be told the real reason for this tragedy.

    To my shame, I can’t insert links to videos, so just type in the search - Kursk - a submarine in troubled waters. and look.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets April 7 2016 08: 03
      0
      https://yandex.ru/search/?lr=77&msid=22878.14478.1460002485.57198&text=курск+под
      water + boat + in + muddy + water + watch + online & suggest_reqid = 386
      I will help you. Here is the link.
  14. Ozhogin Dmitry
    Ozhogin Dmitry April 7 2016 07: 45
    +7
    I don’t understand how people on the submarine serve ... Honor and praise!
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman April 7 2016 08: 20
      +4
      There is such a profession, to defend the homeland! soldier
    2. plut-k
      plut-k April 7 2016 12: 19
      +2
      serve well
  15. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 7 2016 07: 51
    +6
    The danger of the profession of a submariner lies in the fact that he has to stay in an environment unusual for a person (under water) on a very complicated technical device (submarine). There, security depends on each crew member (100 people or more). Therefore, there is a great risk associated not only with technology, but also with the human factor, which can be either unintentional or intentional.
    In case of an accident, it is necessary to have a sufficient number of surface rescue ships with the necessary equipment. To have time to provide assistance in an acceptable time frame.
    In recent years, more attention has been paid to this problem.
    Let's hope that such accidents do not recur in our country.
    1. mine
      mine April 7 2016 19: 47
      -6
      Quote: Pvi1206
      Therefore, there is a big risk

      not bigger than miners

      In general, the topic of the "heroism" of submariners is overwhelming and unreasonably inflated, but when accidents created by the "heroes of the ocean depths" themselves are attached to it, this is generally game.
  16. cniza
    cniza April 7 2016 07: 59
    +8
    Eternal memory to all the fallen, thanks and deep bow to all who continue their work.
  17. OlegV
    OlegV April 7 2016 08: 04
    +6
    Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten....

    Eternal memory to you, submariner heroes!
  18. Borz
    Borz April 7 2016 08: 07
    +3
    Eternal memory to the dead submariners. Rest in peace. Remember you.
  19. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. April 7 2016 08: 08
    +4
    Memory and pride.
  20. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack April 7 2016 08: 43
    +3
    Eternal Memory! Remember!
  21. Villiam wolf
    Villiam wolf April 7 2016 09: 18
    +6
    Closely familiar with some members of the State. commissions to investigate the loss of nuclear submarines and weapons developers of the Central Research Institute "Gidropribor". From personal conversations with Them I can draw a not comforting conclusion for myself - the "Incident" that resulted in the death of the Mariners and the nuclear submarine is a combination of negligence and slovenliness that reigned at that moment on a well-breathing fleet, functioning mainly due to the dedication and patriotism of the Officers themselves, Warrant Officers and The sailors who did not run away in difficult times for the country from their "Battle post".
    For the reason that I heard from the participants in the investigation, I can only say that the truth about the death of the nuclear submarine will not be declassified soon, and all the "conspiracy" versions about the reasons for the death of the nuclear submarine will remain unconfirmed versions!
    1. ametist415
      ametist415 April 7 2016 11: 12
      +1
      Yes, the American submarine drowned her.

      From the comments on various articles about the Russian Navy, people think that we will drown the entire US aircraft carrier fleet with such ease that it’s ridiculous to talk about it. One "Peter the Great" is worth a lot, and "Kuzya", American AV "Karl Vinson" is not suitable for him, and you write that our fleet is breathing well and sloppiness.
    2. dzzen
      dzzen April 8 2016 04: 16
      0
      What are the members of the state commission ???, what are the developers of the Central Research Institute "Gidropribor", what do you write, Gidropribor is a secure facility where the workers on the second floor do not know what they are doing on the third floor. The GVP + specialists from Rubin worked on the boat with the documentation on the object. Everyone who was involved in this work gave a non-disclosure agreement. Do not write heresy, there was no negligence and slovenliness in the actions of the Kursk crew, there was the courage and heroism of people who paid their debt to the Motherland to the end and with dignity who met death after the accident in the 9th compartment.
  22. biserino
    biserino April 7 2016 09: 33
    0
    Quote: Pvi1206
    In case of an accident, it is necessary to have a sufficient number of surface rescue ships with the necessary equipment. To have time to provide assistance in an acceptable time frame.


    +1
  23. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor April 7 2016 10: 57
    +9
    Quote: annodomene
    Eternal memory to submariners ... And in general to everyone who died in the ocean ...

    Only BZ and YR were not "evacuated" from the seabed, this is impossible. We did this a little later, after lifting the pla.
    "... the journals of the central atomic post ..." - there are no such as the "atomic post" itself, "... the draft logbook ..." does not exist, there is the logbook of the watchtower central post, "... control logs of the left and right sides of the nuclear submarine ... "- probably the logs of the control panel of the power plant of the right and left sides were meant. Sorry, I grumble like an old man, for order.

    Everlasting memory...

    subscribe to every word.
    Everlasting memory...
    about-grumbling old-fashioned-ganged))) lol lol Grandpa))))
    1. stas-xnumx
      stas-xnumx April 7 2016 11: 54
      0
      With an amendment to the terminology, I agree, the third for the guys who did not return ....
    2. stas-xnumx
      stas-xnumx April 7 2016 11: 54
      0
      With an amendment to the terminology, I agree, the third for the guys who did not return ....
  24. sir_obs
    sir_obs April 7 2016 11: 45
    +5
    And even the dead, we strive forward in the stuffy compartments, the living will get the honor, and the dead do not need orders

    Raise the cup for those who are at sea, on duty and who are no longer with us
  25. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil April 7 2016 11: 59
    +3
    As far as I remember, the seventh of April is a fateful date for divers of the whole world. And it doesn’t matter for ours or not ours. Sailors do not die, they go to sea and do not return.
  26. navy33
    navy33 April 7 2016 12: 16
    +3
    Eternal Memory to Heroes Submariners !!! You won’t melt everyone! And whoever is alive, we will always remember you.
  27. 955535
    955535 April 7 2016 12: 42
    +3
    Unfortunately, each tragedy has a specific name and surname, often more than one. As Commander-in-Chief of the Navy S. Gorshkov said: "There is no justified and inevitable accident rate."
  28. AAV
    AAV April 7 2016 13: 22
    +4
    You heard the silence ring
    In the underwater little world
    When the depth lies beneath you
    Two and a half miles?


    You heard an air whistle in the bulkhead,
    When tearing the cremallera at the hatch,
    Feeling light cotton in the membranes
    Do you step into the emergency compartment?


    You heard the sound of silence in the compartments
    When will the AZ fall on two sides?
    You saw the horror in the eyes of man
    When is the aorta clenched by the hand of death?


    You felt the agility of minutes
    Insomnia sticky lips?
    And what does it mean to pull the air drop by drop,
    Gritting teeth with powerlessness?


    You saw the color under the water of darkness
    From black to black her modulations?
    You didn’t feel like smelling flowers,
    To become the happiest in the world?


    And I still dreamed green grass
    At the last moment of despair.
    And if you appreciate all this,
    Have a moment of silence!

    Unfortunately, I don't remember the author. The poem was published in the magazine "Soviet Warrior"
    in the early 90s.
  29. fomin
    fomin April 7 2016 15: 38
    +1
    "The second explosion, according to this version, was due to the collision of a nuclear submarine with the ground." The Kursk's weight in the submerged position is 23860 tons, the speed is at least 3 knots. the angle of incidence, according to V. Ryazantsev, was 40-45 degrees, when "hitting" the bottom, an explosion with a power of 1500-2000 kg in TNT eq. Gentlemen, has anyone found even a small funnel at the bottom?
  30. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn April 7 2016 16: 59
    +1
    ETG commander Serge Markov, graduated from the electric faculty in 1984. knew him well. He died, trying to put out the fire in the feed power plant - they did not have enough time and energy! Eternal memory to them!
  31. Koshak
    Koshak April 7 2016 17: 33
    +3
    V. Vysotsky:

    We go under the water
    In neutral water.
    We can by year
    Spit on the weather, -
    And if they cover it -
    Locators will howl
    About our misfortune.

    Save our souls!
    We rave from suffocation.
    Save our souls!
    Hurry to us!
    Hear us on land -
    Our SOS is all muffled, muffled, -
    And horror cuts souls
    In half ...

    And the aorta is torn
    But upstairs - do not dare!
    There on the left side,
    There on the right side,
    There, right along the way -
    Interferes with the passage
    Horned death!

    Save our souls!
    We rave from suffocation.
    Save our souls!
    Hurry to us!
    Hear us on land -
    Our SOS is all muffled, muffled, -
    And horror cuts souls
    In half ...

    But here we are - free, -
    After all, this is our world!
    Are we crazy, or something, -
    Float in the minefield!
    "Well, no hysterics!
    We will crash into the shore "-
    The commander said.

    Save our souls!
    We rave from suffocation.
    Save our souls!
    Hurry to us!
    Hear us on land -
    Our SOS is all muffled, muffled, -
    And horror cuts souls
    In half ...

    We will rise at dawn -
    An order is an order!
    To die in color -
    Better in the light!
    Our path is not marked ...
    We have nothing ... We have nothing! ..
    But remember us!

    Save our souls!
    We rave from suffocation.
    Save our souls!
    Hurry to us!
    Hear us on land -
    Our SOS is all muffled, muffled, -
    And horror cuts souls
    In half ...

    Here we go upstairs.
    But there is no way out!
    Here is the full shipyard!
    Tense nerves.
    The end to all sorrows
    Ends and beginnings -
    We rush to the quays
    Instead of torpedoes!

    Save our souls!
    We rave from suffocation.
    Save our souls!
    Hurry to us!
    Hear us on land -
    Our SOS is all muffled, muffled, -
    And horror cuts souls
    In half ...

    Save our souls!
    Save our souls...
  32. okroshka79
    okroshka79 April 7 2016 19: 00
    +4
    Dear fellow forum users! Let us not discuss the problems of our submarine fleet on this mournful day. Just remember those submariners who defended our homeland and its state interests in the water depths and did not return to their native harbor. Eternal memory to them! And to discuss problems and shortcomings - another time. I suggest that an experienced, competent and unbiased submariner prepare an objective article on the accident rate of our submarines and discuss and express their opinions there.
  33. Impulsiver
    Impulsiver April 7 2016 19: 07
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: kuz363
    For her words "She drowned!" the president should not have been elected at all later. And it was said with a smile! But the Russians are kind, easy-going. All have forgotten!

    Vladimir, it’s a sin to PR on the death of heroes.
    Quote: kuz363
    I read detailed explanations of the submariners. "Kursk" was doomed in a state of collapse of the fleet.

    But this corresponds to the truth and the question arises ... and who did this ????
    Back in 1983, the nuclear submarine K-429, project 670, sank off the coast of Kamchatka; the chief of staff of the 2nd flotilla, to which the submarine was assigned, was none other than Rear Admiral O.A. Erofeev. The death of the boat lies entirely on him and the division commander, Kaperang N.N. Alkaev. In 1992, Erofeev, already in the rank of admiral, became the commander of the Northern Fleet. Among the "exploits" of this admiral, in particular, the defeat of the 88th brigade of the ACC, ships and divers of this particular brigade could have saved the surviving crew members, but alas, the ACC not only of the Northern Fleet, but the entire Russian fleet at that time simply no longer existed.

    I will add that it was Erofeev who was to blame for the death of the Komsomolets nuclear submarine, because while in the position of commander of the 1st flotilla of the Northern Fleet nuclear submarine, which included the Komsomolets nuclear submarine, he released the 604th crew with a faulty gas analyzer in 7 m compartment, which under the current circumstances served as a catalyst for the catastrophe. For the criminal negligence of the higher command, the crew had to pay 42 lives and a unique deep-sea atomic battery ... Eternal memory to brothers!
  34. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 7 2016 19: 09
    +1
    Eternal Memory of the Fallen and Glory to all living submariners!
  35. Roust
    Roust April 7 2016 19: 11
    +3
    Sleep well, Brothers ..... Eternal Memory to you ....
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  37. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt April 7 2016 21: 16
    +2
    Bright memory to everyone who has not returned home
  38. Yugra
    Yugra April 7 2016 23: 43
    +1
    Eternal memory to submariners who did not return from the campaign ...
  39. kig
    kig April 8 2016 09: 12
    -3
    In fact, the fact that the Soviet submarine fleet takes first place in the world in terms of accident rate is a shame. Especially if you read about some accidents, such as the death of K-429.
    1. okroshka79
      okroshka79 April 8 2016 10: 27
      +1
      Not the entire submarine fleet. Because the submarine fleet is not only submariners, they are sometimes incompetent commanders of formations like Erofeev, they are designers, "pike perch" and many more who are related to submarines. No need to generalize! I am sure you didn’t have to breathe a boat “scent” for a couple of months or seven. Every single member of the crews of our submarines honestly and selflessly fulfilled their military duty. Honor and praise to them. Alive and lost. All the questions of accidents are not for them. Shame on you for such writing.
      1. mine
        mine April 9 2016 00: 10
        0
        that's just no need to lie
        Quote: okroshka79
        Each and every member of the crews of our submarines honestly and selflessly fulfilled their military duty. Honor and praise be to them. Alive and dead. All accident issues are not for them.

        whatever the sins of Erofeev, it was Suvorov who tore off the K-429 from the pier, and it was the SKTr (??? Kadantsev ???) on the Plavnik that depressurized the ventilation ring OVERBOARD (which became the MAIN source of water intake)
  40. okroshka79
    okroshka79 April 9 2016 10: 01
    0
    And no one is lying! But you are rude to everyone. The most competent and faultless you are ours! I did not serve in submarines, I did not get it. There were other duty stations in the navy. But the same Suvorov and very often other officials, circumstances pushed for such violations. Moreover, they were not sinners in this, but the higher-ranking responsible leaders. Because the well-known slogan of the Commander-in-Chief Gorshkov was in effect, obviously known to you, who completely untied the hands of zealous special officers, political agencies, prosecutors and took away from under the attack the designers who made mistakes in the design of ships and weapons, responsible for the education and training of direct ship operators, obviously which you relate to. Therefore, the personnel were always to blame. Do not stir up the ashes of midshipman Kadantsev and other dead submariners! You too are guilty of their death.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 April 9 2016 11: 20
      +1
      Quote: okroshka79
      And no one is lying! But you are rude to everyone.

      hi Hello Namesake! Do not pay attention to this "creature", there were, are and always will be, subserals, arrogant and upstarts, and why waste your nerves on them? Let's better take the third place for those who are at sea .... without clinking glasses! drinks
      1. mine
        mine April 9 2016 12: 54
        -2
        Quote: Serg65
        better on the third for those who are at sea

        Quote: Serg65
        better on the third for those who are at sea

        Monsieur, yes YOU are dumb like a cork drunk!
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 April 9 2016 13: 07
          +1
          Quote: mina
          Monsieur, yes YOU are dumb like a cork drunk!

          laughing Yeah, the mold is sharper than you and you don’t need dandruff to croak here about the mediocrity of Russian submariners! angry
          1. mine
            mine April 9 2016 13: 23
            -2
            it looks like YOU "licked" to "squirrels"
            I didn’t write such crap
            Quote: Serg65
            about the mediocrity of Russian submariners! angry

            this is YOUR personal drunk nonsense and nonsense
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 April 9 2016 18: 20
              +1
              Quote: mina
              this is YOUR personal drunk nonsense and nonsense

              laughing I understand that you are illegitimate? In another case, your mom would definitely have an abortion bully You are everywhere whipping that you cannot live without the sea, but tell me, unfinished, where were you "baptized"?
              1. mine
                mine 19 March 2017 13: 56
                0
                whips - it's stupid diarrhea in YOU
    2. mine
      mine April 9 2016 12: 48
      -2
      Monsieur - wipe your snot and drool
      Quote: okroshka79
      I did not serve in submarines, I did not get it. There were other duty stations in the navy.

      noticeably
      apparently dumps were in charge: lol:
      But the same Suvorov and very often other officials, circumstances pushed for such violations. Moreover, they were not sinners in this, but the higher-ranking responsible leaders.

      Wait, burst into tears
      from pity :)))
      Monsieur, what it is to refuse to make a record of readiness for a battle, a hike, a dive, I know not from hearsay, but personally. And how "they press and press" too. Only this entry was made only AFTER the actual elimination of a serious malfunction by my l / s and the actual readiness to exit. Moreover, those who "pressed" "for some reason" have no actual desire to implement the threats "you will now report to the Commander of the group why the exit fails". It is very likely because in THAT situation he himself would have asked these bosses a question - are they not going to come out with such a malfunction.
      he untied his hands to zealous special police officers, political agencies, prosecutors and escaped from the strike designers who made mistakes in the design of ships and weapons, responsible for the education and training of direct ship operators, obviously to which you belong

      Monsieur, after one of my "technical experiments" at the Pacific Fleet of the GK for armament "Malakhit" Nikolaev urgently tore out from "Severodvinsk" one ALREADY MOUNTED system - this is just one example, and far from the most significant


      You grunted something at Kadantsev - but didn’t he drown both the NPS and people when he pulled the water into the compartment stupidly and with CARE?
      Why did people run around in my workings on the BZZh and in masks with glued "eyes" (working out in conditions of zero visibility), and SSP with insulation (when working out pain with water), manual control of mechanisms? or rather why I have - it is clear - SO NECESSARY. only here "for some reason" some of them "talked" about it. But they always had guilty ones. SOMEONE ELSE
      1. okroshka79
        okroshka79 April 9 2016 21: 40
        +2
        Well, that you are without brakes in communicating with strangers and endlessly rude, there is no point in repeating yourself. But it is still worthwhile to cool down and reflect on your behavior. Maybe your son, a submarine officer of the Northern Fleet, is also reading your steep turns now. And, if he is a little more polite than you, then I am sure he will be ashamed of you. Personally, I am ashamed of you, because all this material is in the public domain, and what will a common man in the street think of the navy? And personally, I have met and abruptly yours. Nothing, survived, in the end I'm satisfied with the service. And now, about the cowardice of the midshipman who died on the Komsomolets. So that's what I'll say. I do not blame him. First, it is blasphemous to speak badly about the deceased. Not Christian. Secondly, I do not blame even midshipman Shuportiak from the Otvazhny BOD for cowardice, who fled at the time of the accident and the development of the disaster. Especially. that he did not die and does not live badly for himself in the glorious hero city of Sevastopol. And that's why. But because these people found themselves in a situation of mortal danger and little, if any, they were trained for this by their commanders. ... Because ONLY there was no moral and psychological selection of seafarers, and, moreover, no one was involved in instilling moral and psychological stability in extreme situations. One chatter. The fact that your sailors trained in the fight for survivability with sealed eyes is an honor and praise for you, but during these training they were not threatened with death. On the other hand, every Monday, under your leadership, the sailors of your crew were shoved with stupid material from the FAC like "The Animal Face of American Imperialism." As if the beast has a face! Or they were forced to take notes on the works of the Leader of the world proletariat, such as "A letter from workers and peasants on the victory over DENIKIN." And I personally came across such works. Or during classes in their specialty, and, even more so, physical exercises, on which moral and volitional qualities are instilled, the sailors did not remove the snow from the berths? Drop it! Or you, our saint, never filled out the ZhBP (ship, warhead) and other documentation on the night before the check by the headquarters above? Or, for example, did they not solve twenty-five astronomical problems according to VAS-58 in reverse without leaving the cabin? Of course, there was a TCB, and the subscribers had a TA and a tube. But all this was not scary, for me personally, surely, no. So take it easy! And do not engage in moral corpse eating and throwing mud at people you have no idea about. So it's not far from trouble. I think this discussion should be closed. You can hysteria, swear, whatever, now you are simply ridiculous to me.
  41. mine
    mine April 9 2016 17: 41
    0
    based on Romanov's book about "Komsomolets"
    VVMU named after Frunze, 1 course, the very first lecture on TUZhK
    cap.1 of the rank of Zakharov (shortly before that, Deputy Head of the TUZhK Department at the Baku Higher Military School), asked a question about Romanov’s book.
    The answer is literal:
    This is a slap in the face of the entire naval officer corps.
    But the slap is absolutely deserved.
    I gave it to my son, an officer on 667BDRM, with the order to re-read before each autonomous
  42. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler April 14 2016 17: 35
    0
    I wrote this BEFORE "Kursk", somewhere in six months. I was 18 at the time, so don't be too harsh. And I wrote in memory of all our submariners who died.

    The submarine didn’t return to the pier,
    And the seagulls scream again
    The old winch is bent
    Comrades guys are not waiting.

    Poor old midshipman smoked
    For the first time I lost my son,
    He received the paper personally,
    And his pain didn’t abate.

    They performed with an orchestra at sea
    They shouted for a long time: "Forward!"
    But the evil miles hid the strata
    Father will not come to daughter.

    Friends mates do not wait
    Just look sad at the ocean.
    There, under water, they press the depths,
    The cruiser is now given to Puchin!

    With great respect and recognition to all of our lost submariners

    Khandoga Dmitry Alexandrovich (Fuzeler), St. Petersburg