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The “fourth world” inside the “first”

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In the countries of the "first world" analysts explore the "fourth world". The topic of differences between social groups in the USA has been considered taboo for many years. However, an increasing number of researchers are trying to understand what are the characteristics of life of the layers of the “fourth world” enclosed in the borders of the state of the world of the “first”. Do the owners of the “first world” have the right to criticize the “third world” if they themselves ignore the “fourth” world?

The “fourth world” inside the “first”


Chris Perrin writes about this on the portal "Antimedia".

Before George Manuel published his book The Fourth World: An Indian Reality (The Fourth World: An Indian Reality), the very ideas about any real differences between groups of people in developed countries were taboo. At that time, the rights of indigenous peoples were not yet identified as a political problem, as a stain on the relatively blank leaflet of statistics that the “first world” countries presented to the planet as a model.

However, after the book was published (it appeared in 1974 - O. Ch.), More and more scholars seek to study the differences between social groups - more precisely, between the inhabitants of the “fourth world” existing within the countries of the “first world”.

The fourth world is basically those groups of the population who live in this state, but in no way or almost no way represented by the government of this state. These groups of the population from the point of view of the category of the first world, as a rule, are poor and do not meet the criteria of the country of the “first world”. They are literally depressed. In fact, we see the same openly in the third world when we look at Africa and South America. Unfortunately, the fourth world is growing, the author notes.

According to Anthony J. Hall on page 283 of his book “The American Empire and the Fourth World” (“The American Empire and the Fourth World”), indigenous peoples are not the only ones who feel marginalized within the North American “fourth world”.

For African Americans and Latinos, the “fourth world” is the same old reality under a new name. After the economic collapse of 2008, the black and Hispanic population turned into even more marginal than before. As the government once spoke of indigenous populations, now it must speak of other racial and ethnic groups.

Black Americans feel “increasingly limited in urban ghettos”, where the possibilities of the “first world” simply do not exist.

It is necessary to take into account the difference in income. The “Occupy” movement, the analyst notes, clearly indicates that the working poor no longer feel that the “first world” state observes their interests. And if we consider that the working but poor population of the United States is an ethnically diverse group already clearly similar to the marginal, we must assume that the American population of the “fourth world” is at least comparable to the population of the “first world” of America. But look: the US government continues (at least nominally) to deliver assistance to third world countries, and the fourth world inside the US is slowly but surely forgotten.

While the “first world” criticizes various governments in the “traditional” countries of the “third world” as unjust and corrupt, talking about continuing human rights violations, the same violations committed against the “fourth world” are constantly ignored.

If such a "view" has the government an increasing number of people in the United States, then the very concepts of the "first" and "fourth" worlds should be revised. More importantly, the place in the “first world” of the United States should be rechecked.

The truth about the poor "fourth world" in the West, we add, is not at all a figment of the author's imagination. The gap between the rich and the poor in the “first world” began to grow after the 2008 crisis of the year, and the number of poor began to grow - and not only in the USA.

According to the open data of the US Census Bureau, the number of poor in the country estimated in 46,180 million (2010), which is 15,1% of the total population (the poverty line for that year was considered income in 22314 dollars per year for a family of four).

In that year, the number of poor people in the United States was at the highest level ever observed (since 1959). Their share in the total population has become maximum since 1984. It was reported that the number of poor people in the country has been increasing for the fourth year in a row.

A similar picture is in Germany - almost a seventh of the population (11,5 million people) lives there at or below the poverty line. The number of poor people has increased by one third over the past ten years.

Both Germany and the United States, we recall, attribute themselves to the “First World”.

Russia also boasts a large number of beggars.

At the end of February TASS cited data on the number of Russians who have incomes below the subsistence minimum. This was announced by Minister of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation Maxim Topilin in an interview with "NTV".

“Over the year, this figure increased in absolute terms by 3 million, that is, 16, 19 became millions of people who are below the subsistence minimum. 60%, and even 70% of these poor are families with children, ”the agency quotes the minister.

The subsistence minimum in general in Russia is established by a government decree on a quarterly basis for the main socio-demographic groups: for the working-age population, pensioners, children, and separately for per capita. The subsistence minimum per capita in the third quarter of 2015 was set at 9673 rubles.

19 million from 146,5 million people in Russia, we add, is almost 13%.

True, Russia does not classify itself to the “First World” and certainly does not declare it “exclusive”.

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  1. Knowing
    Knowing April 11 2016 06: 24
    +1
    Angosaxes need to be more modest. Let those representatives of the "first world" rejoice that the inhabitants of THEIR "fourth world" still endure, although judging by all their "angelic" patience comes to an end, finally ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 11 2016 06: 44
      +3
      Russia also boasts a large number of beggars.
      we can boast of millionaires ...
      1. Enot-poloskun
        Enot-poloskun April 11 2016 07: 30
        +4
        First World ... Third World ... Fourth ..

        And what is the Second World? Maybe the former USSR?
        1. Prometheus
          Prometheus April 11 2016 15: 58
          +1
          The second world is socialist countries, mainly ATS, but non-OVD countries are sometimes referred to here.
          1. Thronekeeper
            Thronekeeper April 11 2016 17: 49
            0
            It was like this - the 1st world = Soviet "capitalist countries", the second "socialist countries" and the developing ones. Russia and China have ceased to be socialist, but have not entered into an alliance with Western Europe and the United States. So and remained alone. Well, there is also, probably, the fifth world - the countries-victims of the Franco-German "vampirization", the former ATS, and, surprisingly, Greece, and on the brink - Italy. Well, the "Sixth". Blank spots after US-sponsored civil wars and interventions. Ukraine can already be included in this list.
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  2. strelets
    strelets April 11 2016 06: 35
    +2
    It’s hard for us to calculate such statistics. Too many gray and black salaries.
  3. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 11 2016 06: 42
    +9
    There is a good police series "Longmeyer" just about how life on the Cheyenne Indian Reservation. If you look at the problem carefully, it turns out that all the troubles come from the self-isolation of the Indians, who do not want to join modern life and therefore, living in a limited area, do not have a decent job (there simply cannot be created there) and other "benefits" of modern civilization ... But this is on the one hand. On the other hand, the attitude towards them as "savages" has not gone anywhere, partly because of this very isolation in the reservation, and on the other hand, because the Indians continue to publicly adhere to their "roots", the customs and rituals of which are all the rest are perceived as "savage". This is the type of gypsy vegan we have. But with black, the alignment is completely different. Blacks in the United States followed the example of the Jews and began to parasitize on the "past sins" of the white nation - they in every possible way emphasize that they "suffered" from slavery and the tyranny of the white nation, and therefore the whites, including the state, owe them "to the grave. They simply do not want to make any effort to climb the "social ladder", preferring to live on benefits and come up with hundreds of "legal" ways to avoid work.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 11 2016 06: 49
      +11
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Negroes in the United States followed the example of the Jews and began to parasitize on the "past sins" of the white nation - they emphasize in every possible way that they "suffered" from slavery and from the tyranny of the white nation, and therefore the whites, including the state, owe them "to the grave of their lives

      Yeah ... amused by the recent story with the "Oscar"! wassat the states invented "political correctness" as a "medicine", now they have a soup set in every movie: black, Asian, homosexual and white ...
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 11 2016 14: 48
        +3
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        now they have a soup set in every movie: black, asian, pederast and white ...

        wink they also have a white Negro president - a pederast ... well, with Asian roots, they let us down, but half of the world looked at Wushu in the gym, as shown.
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik April 11 2016 07: 04
      0
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      On the other hand, the attitude towards them as "savages" has not gone anywhere, partly because of this very isolation in the reservation, and on the other hand, because the Indians continue to publicly adhere to their "roots", the customs and rituals of which are all the rest are perceived as "savage"

      That is, again, the same rake. Our culture is the greatest and most correct and you must live like us. And if you don’t want to - get extinction. And why in the states do not die out of the white race, if not corresponding to the culture of the indigenous people?
      Negroes in the United States followed the example of the Jews and began to parasitize on the "past sins" of the white nation - they emphasize in every possible way that they "suffered" from slavery and from the tyranny of the white nation, and therefore the whites, including the state, owe them "the grave of their lives."

      Shouldn't they? What the hell did your ancestors take them out of Africa? Was it too lazy to work? So work hard now, providing them with benefits for the ruined lives of their ancestors.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 11 2016 12: 13
        +1
        Quote: EvgNik
        Our culture is the greatest and most correct and you must live like us.
        No, just human civilization is developing, customs are changing, culture is changing, and one who does not want to keep up with the times is gradually being squeezed out onto the sidelines of life and becoming the subject of ridicule and negative attitude. A vivid example: gypsies despised by all with their nomadic way of life, colorful scarves and a bunch of unwashed children.
        Quote: EvgNik
        And why in the states not become extinct white race, if not appropriate to the culture of the indigenous people?
        The strongest race survives, in this case white, as the most developed and most advanced civilization forward.
        Quote: EvgNik
        Shouldn't they?
        No one owes nothing to nobody.
        Quote: EvgNik
        What the hell did your ancestors take them out of Africa?
        Let the blacks say thank you that now in America there is such a tolerant society and it seems that they are not oppressed, they are not forced to give way to whites on the bus, they are allowed to work in the same jobs as whites, and to study in the same schools as whites. And blacks instead begin to swing rights.
        Quote: EvgNik
        Was it too lazy to work? So work hard now, providing them with benefits for the ruined lives of their ancestors.
        Nobody bothered their ancestors, living in a warmer climate to develop more intensively and conquer white barbarians themselves. But, as history has shown, the harsh northern climate became a catalyst for the development of mankind and it was the white race that was able to conquer other peoples, and not vice versa.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 11 2016 17: 32
          +1
          Quote: Greenwood
          Nobody bothered their ancestors, living in a warmer climate to develop more intensively and conquer white barbarians themselves. But, as history has shown, the harsh northern climate became a catalyst for the development of mankind and it was the white race that was able to conquer other peoples, and not vice versa.

          what Harsh conditions force either to adapt and survive or stupidly die out - natural selection in its most real manifestations. And the blacks are used to eating everything from the tree or something that runs underfoot, like other Asians - until the whites from the north came and somehow started to develop something.
          If the Europeans didn’t come to Africa for slaves, they would have lived what they had to and ate each other.
    3. EvgNik
      EvgNik April 11 2016 10: 04
      +1
      True eyes prick? Do not like it when the truth about your country is said?
      Well, listen. A country of gangsters and libertines, imagining itself to be the greatest, a country whose debts exceed all conceivable limits, a country of bankruptcy, a country that wants to unleash another world war, a country that has already destroyed hundreds of thousands of people on another continent, destroyed millions of families, spawned crowds of refugees.
      This country deserves one thing - total destruction. I hope God, if any, corrects this mistake.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 11 2016 12: 17
        +1
        You would rather look at what is happening in our country, rather than blame the States for all your troubles.
        Quote: EvgNik
        This country deserves one thing - total destruction.
        This country is the strongest in the world and behaves accordingly. As the history of mankind shows, all the Great Empires of the past behaved in a similar way.
  4. Same lech
    Same lech April 11 2016 06: 55
    +6
    “Over the year, this figure increased in absolute terms by 3 million, that is, 16, 19 became millions of people who are below the subsistence minimum. 60%, and even 70% of these poor are families with children, ”the agency quotes the minister.

    Bad ... very bad ... this is a real. Factual assessment of the government’s activity MEDVEDEVA .... deuce them.

    Raising the Prices of gasoline, electricity, heat, rents and then with stagnation and lower real wages ... this is a direct path to social tension in society.

    But this is the topic of a separate (extensive) article.
  5. Revolver
    Revolver April 11 2016 07: 12
    +8
    Studying America from these liberal scorns about the "fourth world" is about the same as studying Russia from the "works" of belolentochniks.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL April 11 2016 10: 17
      +1
      Quote: Nagan
      Studying America from these liberal scorns about the "fourth world" is about the same as studying Russia from the "works" of belolentochniks.

      Yes, Fukuyama, Huntington, Toffler ... and others like that - it was a great blow to America and the West in general!
      On the one hand, they inflated and strengthened their conceit, on the other hand, the "Sunset of the West", the death of the West ... the death and surrender of positions to the East ... The East meant not Russia and not the "Russian world", but the orthodox Muslim East ...
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 11 2016 07: 17
    +5
    Do the owners of the “first world” have the right to criticize the “third world” if they themselves ignore the “fourth” world?

    And they (the owners) do not fool themselves with this question. In the "first world", as a rule, from childhood, it is instilled in neglect of people standing on the social ladder below you. Therefore, they go through life with their heads held high and, at best, indulgence towards people outside their circle. But to point out shortcomings to other, including sovereign states, is, in their opinion, the right given to them from above.
  7. Alex66
    Alex66 April 11 2016 07: 18
    +5
    The poverty of the working population is horrifying, the reason for it is the greed of the capitalists. In the competition, capital reduces costs and the wages of workers go under the knife, they have to lower their costs to spend less, as a result of which a reduction in the sales market and fiercer competition, the capitalists again need to reduce costs. Capitalism is a dead end vicious circle created by pathologically greedy entities. At the level of modern technology, it is enough to work no more than 4 hours a day (and in France with 40% unemployment they try to increase the length of the working day, a paradox).
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 April 11 2016 08: 03
      0
      Alex66 RU  Today, 07:18


      The poverty of the working population is horrifying, the reason for it is the greed of the capitalists. In the competition, capital reduces costs and the wages of workers go under the knife, they have to lower their costs to live in order to live
      ---------------------
      Which country did you mean?
      1. gizz
        gizz April 12 2016 08: 38
        0
        its reason is the greed of the capitalists.

        Such a situation is in those countries where the power belongs to the capitalists. Including ours, alas.
  8. vch62388
    vch62388 April 11 2016 07: 39
    +7
    Cheers cheers!!! West is rotting !!! 15% of the population have an income as low as 32000 rubles per person per month !!! Will soon turn up ...
    In our country, only 13% cannot boast of 137 American money a month.
    No need to reassure yourself how bad THERE is, you need to do better HERE.
    I don’t like it when a neighbor (colleague, etc.) counts the money in my pocket, when instead of hard work he doesn’t get out of smoke breaks or does not get out of hard drinking ...
    1. Alexandr73
      Alexandr73 April 11 2016 07: 55
      +6
      Here, the building, health, zgi - is written through XNUMX, I agree with the rest.
      1. vch62388
        vch62388 April 11 2016 08: 08
        +2
        Thank. Not awake yet ...
  9. Izotovp
    Izotovp April 11 2016 07: 55
    +7
    13% here ... 19% there .... there is a lie, there is a big lie and there are statistics.
  10. guzik007
    guzik007 April 11 2016 08: 06
    +3
    I read recently from Khrushchev's memoirs. So he proudly recalls that in 1916, working as a tool-mechanic, he received 30 rubles in gold, had a two-room apartment. I wonder how to correlate this in the salary of the current high-class worker?
    1. Jagermeister
      Jagermeister April 11 2016 08: 29
      +4
      Quote: guzik007
      I read recently from Khrushchev's memoirs. So he proudly recalls that in 1916, working as a tool-mechanic, he received 30 rubles in gold, had a two-room apartment. I wonder how to correlate this in the salary of the current high-class worker?

      An oilman in Tyumen.
  11. Jagermeister
    Jagermeister April 11 2016 08: 32
    +2
    It is strange that poverty correlates with certain ethnic groups.
    So something in these ethnic groups is not in order.
  12. Max repp
    Max repp April 11 2016 08: 34
    +2
    In practice, the cost of living (Siberia, a district center for 18 residents) cannot be less than 13 rubles, which is less than the total survival in which only groats go to the store and only as a last resort to the pharmacy
  13. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 11 2016 09: 13
    +3
    Quote: Maks Repp
    continuous survival in which only groats go to the store and only as a last resort to the pharmacy

    That is how 70% of the population of Russia lives.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik April 11 2016 09: 54
      0
      And so the SGA live. Not bad at all.
    2. 0255
      0255 April 11 2016 10: 49
      +3
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Quote: Maks Repp
      continuous survival in which only groats go to the store and only as a last resort to the pharmacy

      That is how 70% of the population of Russia lives.

      In Belarus too.
      But to reassure us they are flooding that the US is about to collapse, everything is bad.
  14. Ramzes33
    Ramzes33 April 11 2016 09: 48
    +2
    The issue of social justice (the widening gap between rich and poor) is a major challenge to humanity, regardless of country. Joy over us * is better *, various ideological cliches are a dead end.
  15. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 April 11 2016 10: 09
    +8
    Based on the figures given in the article, we compare how much gas a poor family of 4 people can buy per month. US-out of household income 4 people. 22314 $ per year and in the Russian Federation at a living wage

    USA
    $ 22314 12months 1859,5 $ / month., The price of gasoline is 12 $ / l, you can buy 15496 liters of gasoline in total
    RF
    rub. 9673 for 4 people 38692 rub. Price of gasoline 36 rub. / L, total 1075 l of gasoline
    at 14, a Russian family living at a living wage lives worse than a poor American family.
    Those who are considered poor in the United States are very wealthy in the Russian Federation.
    In terms of gasoline, a family with an income of 541688 rubles can buy such an amount of gasoline. per month.
    In Russia, by American standards, 95% of the population are poor.
    Here is such an American world, friendship, chewing gum and democracy.
    1. Svt70
      Svt70 April 11 2016 11: 01
      +2
      You incorrectly calculated the amount of gasoline that a family from the USA can buy, they have a gas price of somewhere around $ 0,7 and you get 2656 liters, but not as much as 15 thousand liters as you calculated.
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 April 11 2016 11: 23
        0
        Quote: Svt70
        You incorrectly calculated the amount of gasoline that a family from the USA can buy, they have a gas price of somewhere around $ 0,7 and you get 2656 liters, but not as much as 15 thousand liters as you calculated.

        $ 0.7 per gallon.
        I typed in the search engine "the price of gasoline in the United States" - floated out 12 cents per liter, but there they sell gasoline in gallons - this is the discrepancy. What the Internet gave out, she wrote. I took the price of gasoline according to my region, it is also different everywhere.
        1. Svt70
          Svt70 April 11 2016 11: 51
          +2
          For a gallon of $ 1,8, this is the average in the United States, and 12 cents per liter is in one particular city with a population of 7000 people, these links give out, but if you read it in full, then the average price tag
          1. Corsair
            Corsair April 11 2016 17: 46
            +3
            Quote: olimpiada15
            USA
            $ 22314 12months 1859,5 $ / month., The price of gasoline is 12 $ / l, you can buy 15496 liters of gasoline in total
            RF
            rub. 9673 for 4 people 38692 rub. Price of gasoline 36 rub. / L, total 1075 l of gasoline
            at 14, a Russian family living at a living wage lives worse than a poor American family.

            Quote: Svt70
            For a gallon of $ 1,8, this is the average in the United States, and 12 cents per liter is in one particular city with a population of 7000 people, these links give out, but if you read it in full, then the average price tag


            1. They also have a lot of people who live very poorly, the next generations close the loans of the previous ones, I can’t even imagine that my son would pay debts for my studies at the university (say).
            2. Do not forget - the USA is a global racketeer, they bend 80% of the world's population buying / selecting resources and vaping beads like Indians (weapons, planes, equipment, McDonald's)
            3. Climate and location as a bonus, there were practically no wars on its territory, surrounded by oceans, and two three miserable countries without ambitions.
  16. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 April 11 2016 10: 10
    +7
    What is the article about? That there are poor people in the US? Powerful discovery. The author, in fact, said nothing more. I do not recognize Dude ...
    In the United States, a consistent model of social eugenics has been implemented, that is, "the survival of the best." Such a model implies the presence of a large reservoir of the "worst", that is, people who are unable to rise and compete for higher places in the social pyramid. At the same time, their life should be disgusting for the majority, so that they are afraid and touched their paws more, trying to alienate such a life from themselves.
    At the same time, support is being provided for this, albeit a "fourth" world. Because it serves as an inexhaustible reservoir of fighters and intellectuals who are ready to fight for a place in the sun. Such people are constantly being sought and integrated into the "higher" worlds. There will be no significant social upheavals in the United States under this system. All potential protest leaders are already rich and important in the first world.
    This is an old system developed back in the UK. While it works, the Anglo-Saxons are provided with an excellent talent pool and cool, smart, with great potential for survival leaders. Why do I give these explanations, and not the author of the article? Strange ...
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 April 11 2016 11: 53
      +5
      Of course, humanism is empty words.
      But such a policy with regard to the population can be allowed by those who are outside the puddle. They may claim that someone is attacking them, but remember who attacked the United States and Britain for 200 years. Even the Nazis only bombed England, no one fought on their territory.
      It is also bad that our pro-Western rulers took such a model of nation formation as an axiom.
      Russia is systematically attacked, and, without a sufficient number of strong and healthy populations, the country simply ceases to exist.
      For a strong Russian state, it is necessary to give people the opportunity to provide for their existence, create new families, have children. Today only the "elite" have such an opportunity, from which neither quality nor quantity.
      Alas, in this case, what is good for the Anglo-Saxons is death for Russia.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 April 12 2016 10: 04
        +1
        Quote: olimpiada15
        It is also bad that our pro-Western rulers took such a model of nation formation as an axiom.

        They are not that pro-Western. Just to manage the state and business you need to be smart, educated, skillful. And they are against that dumb as a cork, evil and deceitful. Up to them they managed to crawl with the help of cunning, meanness, treachery and cruelty.
        But now how to manage the grabbed one? It slips in bloodied hands and is not given to the mind, imprisoned for treason and murder. Remember the story with Prokhorov and the car? The engineers did everything. The managerial work remained - to buy up part of the patents, to coordinate production and financial schemes ... And then Proshka-proforg-bandyuk was blown away with his managers. This is not for him to wet people and wring out business ...
        And what is the solution? Fear. It is necessary to make all these hated intelles work for fear of hunger and cold. You can’t pay them, smart people will instantly get out of control, and begin to create their own businesses, their own politics ... it is impossible to compete with them in this way. So you need to keep smart, strong and talented in a black body, every minute threatening them with a fall into poverty.
        The fact that this threatens with death The stainless of our rulers does not care for a second. It’s easier for them to lose a country than power.
  17. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul April 11 2016 11: 46
    +4
    We are also forming a fourth world, and very successfully.
    National security in Russia is threatened by a growing income gap between rich and poor.
    This was at a meeting with President Vladimir Putin, the Commissioner for Human Rights, Ella Pamfilova. And this gap, according to her, has been growing since the beginning of the 90s.
    “The gap grew constantly. If, say, in the last years of the existence of the Soviet Union, in 1990, the gap was 4,5 times, now it is about 16,5 times. The maximum was recorded in 2013, this year it slightly decreased, but if the trend is not reversed, the difference can reach 2017 times by the end of 20. This is a very high gap, it determines a number of negative factors, "said Ella Pamfilova, Ombudsman for Human Rights in Russia.
    "In this regard, one of the main tasks of social policy is the organization of targeted aid from the state to precisely those groups of the population that need support," said Vladimir Putin, President of the Russian Federation.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 April 11 2016 14: 55
      +5
      [quote = Gomunkul]
      [quote] National security in Russia is threatened by a growing income gap between rich and poor. [/ quote]
      This is so, but the formation of such a gap is inherent in the economic system itself, this is only the result for which the current economic model has been created. There simply cannot be another.
      And the people need not help, but the ability to work, guaranteed to provide themselves, their family with food, clothing, housing, have a safety margin for the time while the children are small.
      Look at what high incomes grow and low ones fall. High income is the taking of money from people with low income. The company has increased profits, due to what?
      According to the housing and communal services system.
      The new orders have led to the fact that in the payment for electricity, under the guise of general house expenses, bona fide payers pay the debt of non-payers who simply do not transmit testimony, power engineers save on the control service. The mechanism is laid down in the phrase "ONE is the difference between the readings of the common house meter and the sum of the apartment meters" - the stolen electricity also falls into this difference. This is not profit, this is corruption.
      The gas price always included preventive maintenance — now the population must pay extra, and they pay twice for dispatch services in a house-building and individually.
      Unemployment is considered by the employment center. The allowance from the employment center is less than the cost of traveling, it is more convenient to look through vacancies and send resumes from home, but the main thing is that the population’s employment is low.
      There is pseudo-employment - these are mostly young people - they go from door to door to mislead, they simply cheat "we give you a gift for free, but you will pay us for two more sets" These are idlers, even if they act from a company.
      Advertisers are robbing people. Advertising is an undeclared tax, which is embedded in the price of the goods.
      Panangin is called to drink from the screen. This means that the pharmaceutical company has paid millions to TV and advertisers. Paying for advertising is an item of expenses on cost, which means that the basis for the formation of overheads is increasing, the price is increasing. But this medicine, which has long been known to doctors, advertising will not affect their decision, drugs cannot be taken without a doctor’s prescription, the meaning of advertising drugs is to increase their value.
      Free drugs are provided, they give only for a month, doctors are overloaded, it is unrealistic to get an appointment on time. You go to the pharmacy, the medicine in free sale costs 3-10 !!! times more expensive than free prescriptions. Not a few%, but 300% -1000%!
      Etc. the meaning of the activities of Russian business is not to fill the domestic market with quality goods, but to sell the devil-they-that at a higher price, to force them to buy only what gives a high profit. The country is capable of producing all basic foodstuffs, especially vegetables, milk, but big profits are made by the "freshest" imports stuffed with conservatives and dyes.
      Real help to the people - let the people live, do not take away what you have earned, give the opportunity to work, create your own enterprises. It is impossible to create a production with a profitability of 5%, with a loan price of 30%.
      Corruption is the creation of such an edition of documents that in reality lead to the impoverishment of those who consume this service, but increases the income of those who sell it.
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul April 11 2016 15: 15
        +3
        olimpiada15
        I completely agree with you, but we live under capitalism, when the exploitation of man by man is fixed at the state level, which means that there will be rich and poor. I have previously spoken out that the words of our current government about the social program in the country are nothing more than verbiage.
      2. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS April 11 2016 15: 21
        +3
        Quote: olimpiada15
        The mechanism is laid down in the phrase "ONE is the difference between the readings of the common house meter and the sum of the apartment meters" - the stolen electricity also falls into this difference.

        Yesterday at a meeting of tenants this issue was discussed.
        It turned out that we do not have a common house meter, and tenants pay monthly from 300 to 400 rubles ONE! In the house there are 144 apartments, at least 43200 rubles is floating away, it is not known for what, and it is not known to anyone.
        Although it has long been known that the ultimate beneficiary of our city e-sales company is the Cyprus offshore, a similar situation with the water utility.
        Quote: olimpiada15
        Corruption is the creation of such an edition of documents that in reality lead to the impoverishment of those who consume this service, but increases the income of those who sell it.

        I will not stop repeating that it was not for this that they destroyed the USSR and people's power, so that the people could live well.
        In the meantime, the ratings will go through the roof, we will have what we have with a clear tendency to worsen.
        We have been milked for 25 years and will be milked until the majority of the population pushes the zombie out of their heads.
        1. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 April 11 2016 15: 44
          +4
          So, but the authorities do not understand that it’s not about someone feeling good, even if it’s the people, it’s about that the existence of the country is at stake. And without a country, who will they be, getting richer today?
          They live without a clue. Remember how recently Great Britain began to find out their origin regarding Russian investors. After several inquiries, the country's financial system has missed out on quite substantial sums, and the initiative has stalled. Why did the British calm down? For them, the stable financial system of the country is more important; you can use the stolen money. What the Russian owners of capital did not understand, there will be no country that they are successfully robbing, there will be no capital they have. For big money, there will always be new owners, in vain is there a total wiretapping of the USA? Once it is planned to use it. And while there is a successful looting of the Russian Federation, the West will remain silent.
          Those who want to destroy it rule the paradox-country, after which they will remain out of work.
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS April 11 2016 16: 36
            +3
            Quote: olimpiada15
            And without a country, who will they be, getting richer today?

            The bottom line is that they consider the Russian Federation as a platform for chopping up dough, these "gopoda" want to parasitize on the bowels of the country as long as possible, but they do not connect their fate with Russia, because their capitals and families are abroad.
            One word, cellists, their mother.
      3. Cat man null
        Cat man null April 11 2016 15: 32
        -2
        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        Yesterday at a meeting of tenants this issue was discussed. It turned out that we do not have a common house meter ...

        - Well, you looooos there ...

        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        and tenants pay monthly from 300 to 400 rubles ONE! There are 144 apartments in the house, at least 43200 rubles is floating, it is not known for what, and it is not known to anyone ...

        - sucker is fate .. putting a meter on a house is cheaper than you unfastening a month .. looooosi ...

        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        We have been milked for 25 years and will be milked until the majority of the population won't throw a zombie out of his head

        - in this case - you still milked .. not Us Yes
        - they will milk you until your eldest housework will not bother setting a common house counter ..

        In, they found a problem .. not, well, loooooooshi .. request

        PS: PHANTOM-AS, get out of the emergency ... it's unsportsmanlike, after all wink
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS April 11 2016 16: 11
          +2
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          in this case - you still milked .. not Us

          Here we don’t have to be clever anymore, we also didn’t do it with our finger, they milk everyone and you and Us!
          The neighboring house is equipped with a meter and the result is the same -300 -400 rubles in payments for ONE.
          You Kote, apparently, an alien with your sidekick avva2012, who supposedly pays 2,5 thousand for an apartment with 5 registered.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null April 11 2016 16: 50
            0
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            You Kote, apparently, an alien with your sidekick avva2012, who supposedly pays 2,5 thousand for an apartment with 5 registered

            Cool hitting .. okay:

            - in winter I pay about 8 thousand along with the light for one-room (not Khrushchev), with two prescribed
            - avva2012 - I know this, I do not count in the homies wink
            - an alien .. yeah .. laughing

            As for your common houses - your UK has hidden its salary there, do not go to your grandmother. I have their salary - a separate line in the payment.

            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            milk all of you and us!

            - Well, what for ...
            - At least I don’t complain about it on every corner .. as long as the costs do not exceed a certain reasonable limit ..
            - when they exceed - I also do not scream, but I try to understand in detail

            Sometimes - it turns out, sometimes - no .. this is life, dear request
            1. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS April 11 2016 17: 12
              +1
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              at least I don’t complain about it on every corner ..

              Tolstovets? non-resistance to evil? Knees with elbows do not hurt? lol
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null April 11 2016 18: 08
                0
                Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                Tolstovets? non-resistance to evil by violence?

                For those on an armored car:

                - as long as the costs (costs, roughly speaking) of the solution to the "problem" exceed the costs caused by the problem - I "pill" on this problem. Saliva Yes
                - from the moment when it is clear that these costs are comparable - I begin to solve this "problem"

                Will it come out or not - again a matter of costs, as a rule. Forces, time and money wink

                Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                Knees with elbows do not hurt?

                Then you know better, of course. For you, 400 rubles a month, which your communal management company commits is an unsolvable problem ..

                Turn the other cheek (pay .. 800 belay), "let the nits choke" (c) laughing
                1. PHANTOM-AS
                  PHANTOM-AS April 12 2016 13: 01
                  -1
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  Then you know better, of course. For you, 400 rubles a month, which your communal management company commits is an unsolvable problem ..

                  Turn the other cheek (pay .. 800), "let the nit choke" (c)

                  The fact is that I personally, finally I didn’t pay and I’m not going to pay. And when uk file a lawsuit in court, we’ll figure it out wink
                  In the meantime, our weapons are sabotage! But there are few left to the cobblestones.
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  he has bad ones, and he is the only one - D'Artagnan ..

                  There are a lot of us, Vasya good So far, smear your knees with your elbows iodine mesh.
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null April 12 2016 13: 08
                    0
                    Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                    In the meantime, our weapons are sabotage! But there are not many stones left

                    - Will you beat off cobblestones from bailiffs? I do not recommend .. however - your business

                    Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                    Bye, smear your knees with your elbows iodine mesh

                    - Leave your erotic fantasies for your wife (if any)

                    Something like this .. ASYA laughing
                    1. PHANTOM-AS
                      PHANTOM-AS April 12 2016 18: 14
                      0
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      Leave your erotic fantasies for your wife (if any)
                      You lubricate bye Yes
                      ty at the pharmacy has everything at affordable prices fellow
                      1. Cat man null
                        Cat man null April 12 2016 18: 24
                        0
                        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Leave your erotic fantasies for your wife (if any)
                        You lubricate bye Yes
                        ty at the pharmacy has everything at affordable prices fellow

                        - Asya, do not send wink
            2. olimpiada15
              olimpiada15 April 11 2016 17: 50
              +2
              As for the moose.
              Problems are everywhere. Young energetic-busy with their business above the roof. The elderly-forces do not have to understand. They began to take the testimony themselves, with data on the house in paychecks, they do not climb into any framework. House-building - this is 20 bulbs on the sites - the consumption of 2000 kW per month is set, the whole house is 6800 kW.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null April 11 2016 19: 41
                0
                Quote: olimpiada15
                As for the moose

                Eugene, the "moose" were addressed to Fantomas personally. If you accidentally hit you - my apologies hi

                Quote: olimpiada15
                Young energetic-busy with their business above the roof. The elderly-forces do not drive to understand

                Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                The house has 144 apartments

                - There is not a single person in 144 apartments who can understand the situation? "I do not believe" (c). Well, or "loooooosi" laughing

                Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                It is known that the ultimate beneficiary of our city e-sales company is the Cyprus offshore, a similar situation with the water utility

                - but for this time was found .. Once again - "I do not believe" (c)

                To me personally, this character (Fantomas) is increasingly reminiscent of that very "Crimean woman, the officer's daughter." It painfully harmoniously sings, while everyone (Putin, government, aligarhi, Management company .. janitor, GYYY laughing laughing laughing ) he has bad ones, and he is the only one - D'Artagnan ..

                That's something like Yes
      4. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid April 12 2016 11: 47
        0
        Anyone in the family with disabilities --- will understand. 3-4 preferential medicines. The packaging limit for different packaging ends at different times is not clear for a month. You should quickly go for a new prescription without waiting for another one. But now there is a medicine, but it may not be in the evening. And the pharmacy may be nearby, or maybe 5 hours to go back and forth. And, therefore, the one who supports this disabled person should spend 4 days a month on a doctor, 4 days on a pharmacy. And the disabled person will not be able to do this himself. Here.
  18. Greenwood
    Greenwood April 11 2016 12: 27
    +4
    Pfft, all these so-called "poor people" from the Negro-Latin American ghettos are common lazy people, loafers and losers, whose "poverty" is caused by unwillingness to work. After all, it is so convenient to receive unemployment benefits and scratch your belly, and at the same time engage in racketeering, stock up on drugs and guns, join gangs and do other socially useful things. For some reason, whites for the most part do not lead this way of life there, but learn and go to work, sometimes in two or three jobs with a bunch of loans, but they work, and do not sit on the neck of the state, do not beg for benefits and do not generally lead parasitic lifestyle.
  19. tracer
    tracer April 11 2016 21: 10
    +1
    So basically it is. In North America, people who are completely poor are usually a marginal rabble. They just don't want to work properly. Selling drugs is better for them. When blacks gather in the states on the next "brutally killed negros". The first thing they do .... They're robbing liquor stores right. And only after everything. You know the direct proportionality and rather strange in my opinion .. The more black the state, the poorer it is .. and this is not because there is a poor state in itself and there is nothing to do there. And the state is poor because the percentage of the black population there is much higher. There is a directly proportional relationship that I have established from personal experience. Here's another example. NEVER AND EVER in North America have I seen a Negro farmer. But it’s always welcome to talk about their oppression.
  20. iouris
    iouris April 11 2016 23: 45
    +1
    The racists climbed out: they are looking everywhere for "cotton wool". And no one explained why it was during the Cold War and the arms race that people lived better and safer both in the socialist camp and, most importantly, in the West. And as soon as the competition between the two systems ended, pension funds were immediately ruined, super-rich and super-poor appeared.
  21. theth
    theth April 11 2016 23: 51
    0
    We are all looking for a mote in the Amer’s eye, while a whole forest grows there, here is Astrakhan

    And here is Yakutsk

    But it's all the garbage of Palmyra more important, who would argue