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Where are they so much gold?

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Russia, whose gold reserves were plundered in the Yeltsin era, is now buying a lot of gold abroad, and has also become the world's second gold mining country (after China). The 100% purchase of domestic gold, notes economist F. Engdal, significantly supports the mining industry. Not only Russia and China, but also Kazakhstan are betting on gold.


Where are they so much gold?


Frederick William Engdahl, an American economist, freelance journalist, writer and political scientist, author of several well-known books and studies, reflects on the subject of gold. His article is published by the portal. Mixednews.ru.

The analyst recalls that during the financial crisis of 1930, central banks and citizens preferred to keep their savings in gold, as paper money depreciated. According to Engdal, the world is moving today "to the next such stage": after all, the debts of the dollar system reduce the real value of paper dollars. And it is already noticeable, as central banks are buying up all the gold “that they can manage”.

Later, President Nixon, at the insistence of the then US Under Secretary of the Treasury Paul Volcker and his patron David Rockefeller, deprived the dollar of the gold collateral established by law. Nixon took this step because the Fed had less and less gold bars: France, Germany and other US trading partners demanded gold in exchange for the dollars they had accumulated, and this was acceptable in accordance with the Bretton Woods rules. Since 1971, the mass of paper dollars in global money circulation has been increasing unrestrainedly. “This was the cause of the era of great inflation, which has been going on in the world economy for more than fifty-five years, because the dollar mass has been growing rapidly and today has reached 2500 percent compared to 1970 year,” writes the economist.

In October, US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger spoke about 1973 about the "petrodollar". In fact, since then, the value of the dollar has been provided not by gold, but by oil. Thanks to Kissinger and the rest, oil prices in 1973 have risen by 400 per cent. These manipulations forced Germany, France, and generally most of the world to buy dollars. Since then, Saudi Arabia and other OPEC countries have begun to demand only US dollars from the Germans, the French and others as payment for black gold.

Since September 2014, world oil prices have begun to fall rapidly. “It was the 70-percent drop in demand in dollar terms for the world's largest commodity denominated in dollars,” explains the analyst.

And it turned out that the central banks of Russia and China are rapidly acquiring gold. Moreover, the People's Bank of China announced that it is refusing to bind the national currency to the US dollar in favor of a basket of currencies headed by the euro.

While everyone's attention was focused on the price of oil, the Central Bank of Russia acquired gold in large quantities. In the difficult year 2015, Russia added 208 tons to gold reserves, which is more than in the 2014 year (172 tons).

And another interesting thing: the Russian Central Bank to buy gold sells US Treasury securities, and this “de facto means dedollarization”.

And another thing: after the announcement by the Chairman of the Central Bank of Russia Elvira Nabiullina in May 2015 that she does not see the need to buy all the domestic gold (after all, the Central Bank’s needs can be met on the international market), a turn was made by 180 degrees, and today the Central Bank buys all gold mined in Russia. Only in cases where this gold is not enough to fulfill the monthly procurement plans, he resorts to imports. Nabiullina herself said that "we consider it necessary from the point of view of creating an additional financial airbag for the state in the face of external uncertainty."

The economist further emphasizes that Russia (a country whose gold reserves "were plundered during the reign of Boris Yeltsin") has now become the second gold mining country in the world after China.

The material notes and a significant increase in gold reserves in Kazakhstan. For the past forty months, this republic has been increasing its gold reserves. At the same time, Kazakhstan is part of the Eurasian Economic Union.

As for China’s Russian partner, in January 2016 purchased 17 tons of gold in January and intends to replenish reserves by the end of the year for 215 tons, that is, approximately in the same volume as Russia. From August 2015 to January 2016, China increased its gold reserves by 101 tons. According to statistics from the People's Bank of China, since 2009, the volume of gold reserves in the country has grown by 57%. Analysts are confident that the amount of gold in the vaults of the People’s Bank of China is "underestimated from a political point of view."

According to the expert, the currencies of Russia, China and some other Eurasian countries tend to become "reliable as gold." By the way, Russia has an extremely low ratio of external debt to GDP: about 18% compared to 103% in the USA, 94% in the eurozone countries, more than 200% in Japan. And this fact is deliberately ignored by Western rating agencies. “Russia has a much healthier economy than most Western countries, trumpeting about its economic collapse,” said Engdal.

The share of gold reserves in gold reserves of Russia starts to play a more significant role than the currency component. This is evidenced by models based on data from the Central Bank of Russia, the portal notes "Financial One".

Buying gold in large volumes, the Central Bank can much more quickly increase reserves to the designated comfortable level of 500 billion dollars, however, under one condition: the precious metal will continue to go up.

Analysts recall what happened at the beginning of this year historical an event for the Russian economy: the country's foreign exchange reserves began to correlate less with the US dollar, while their correlation with the price of gold increased noticeably. This is due to the relevant policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation to build up reserves due to gold. As a result, the share of the latter in the gold and foreign currency reserves begins to play a more significant role than the currency component.

The reason for this may be the geopolitical situation. The Central Bank began to intensively purchase precious metals precisely after the Crimean events. The correlation was also strengthened by the rise in gold prices (at the beginning of 2016, it increased in price by 18% compared to December lows of 2015).

According to the World Gold Council, which the portal cites, in July-December 2015, the Bank of Russia bought record-breaking 139,49 tons of gold from domestic producers. The high rate of procurement is maintained for the second year in a row. Being the emission center of the ruble, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation "can painlessly increase its gold reserves by buying it from Russian miners."

Elvira Nabiullina says that the “comfortable” level of gold and foreign currency reserves for Russia is more than 500 billion dollars. Now this figure is at around 383,5 billion dollars. Continuing growth in gold prices will help to achieve the required level faster. And if this goes on like this, analysts say, the well-being of Russians in the long term "will depend not only on oil, but also on the quotations of gold on the world market."

According to the World Gold Council for March 2016, which leads Gazeta.ru, the USA has the largest reserves of monetary gold - they own 8,134 thousand tons. In second place is Germany (3,381 th. Tons). The third place is occupied by the International Monetary Fund with 2,814 thousand tons. Italy and France have 2,452 thousand and 2,436 thousand tons, respectively. They are followed by China (1,779 thousand tons), Russia (1,436 thousand tons) and Switzerland (1,040 thousand tons). On this list of those who own a thousand or more tons of gold ends.

A simple answer to the question of Russia's increasing the gold reserves was given by the financial ombudsman (defender of rights) Pavel Medvedev. “Russia acts primarily in the interests of domestic gold mining companies,” he said. "Komsomolskaya Pravda". - Supports manufacturers afloat, buying them gold. Plus seeks to reduce dependence on foreign currency. First of all, from the American dollar. ”

There are critics of buying gold, notes Russian Business Journal. Opponents are reminded of the relatively low liquidity of this precious metal: after all, the sale involves the need to move a significant cargo. In addition, the speculators will notice the preparation of the deal for the sale of a large batch of gold and will hasten to derail prices. As a result, the transaction will not be so profitable.

The instability of gold prices is also mentioned separately: since 2011, the prices for this metal have decreased by more than a third. True, the long-term trend shows that gold prices have more than quadrupled since the beginning of 2000.

By the way, in anticipation of the devaluation of the dollar, which predict Some Western economists, building gold in gold reserves instead of dollars, also seems like a reasonable decision.

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  1. Jarilo
    Jarilo April 7 2016 06: 07
    +72
    And at the same time, Russia has a garbage rating, according to the estimates of American rating agencies, and America has a triple A.
    For decades, gold has not changed in its purchasing power in contrast to inflation-prone currencies, and in the face of outrageous printing presses this is probably the best way out.
    1. venaya
      venaya April 7 2016 06: 18
      +27
      Quote: Jarilo
      For decades, gold has not changed in its purchasing power compared to inflation-prone currencies.

      So it should be, only really, in practice, the price of gold is determined by a very limited circle of people in London, in view of their financial situation, and really having the ability to influence the price of gold in a specific period of time.
      1. Throw
        Throw April 7 2016 06: 33
        +42
        And analysts, at the direction of this narrow circle of people, write nonsense like:
        if it goes on like that, analysts say, the long-term prosperity of Russians “will depend not only on oil, but also on gold quotes ..

        Long-term well-being does not depend on tons of redhead in the basements of the Central Bank, but on the country's economy and legislative measures to protect it, and also on monetary policy, in which the Central Bank acts as a stick in the fifth wheel ...
        1. Byshido_dis
          Byshido_dis April 7 2016 10: 29
          +10
          For good reasons, the "garbage rating" needs to be assigned to the states, but how can you assign them if the appraisers live in it)))))
          1. pavelty
            pavelty April 7 2016 11: 18
            +12
            Who has a printing press, he has an AAA rating))
            1. Vetal999
              Vetal999 April 7 2016 14: 41
              +29
              Yes, spit on the rating of amers everyone knows that he is fake, in order to prevent a panic of his own population.
              As I think: the US has a debt of $ 21 trillion - they now live on loan to everyone.
              Any US citizen now has the opportunity to take a loan (officially) at about 2%, but in fact even less = 0,3 - 0,2%. Citizens in the United States are now spending more than they are earning, AND RESCUE FROM OLD DEBTS FOR OLD CREDITS TO US CITIZENS - PERMANENT CREDITS.
              I will not describe the reasons - for a long time, but the state of the US economy is now such that their rulers are forced to raise the interest rate on loans (if you read their official sources: up to 3-4%, but do not omit it in (-)). AND THIS IS AN INCREASED CREDIT RATE THREATENING CITIZENS IMPOSSIBILITY TO RENEW (PAY FOR OLD DEBT) ANNOUNCEMENTS AND, SEQUENTLY: COLLECTING THEIR PROPERTY BY THE BANKS (AND THERE IS A GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL).
              According to various estimates, at least 1/3 if not 1/2 amers live like this.
              The $ US debt rate will collapse even more - collapse.
              The US economy has not yet collapsed just because of blackmail to make a peep to everyone in the world.
              Our people understand the above, they understand that the problems with the $, on which the world economy is tied, will "call a furry animal", so they are buying gold - a factor of stability. (The Germans have also missed this for several years already trying to return their gold from the US storage, otherwise the Americans are already plugging their holes with it).
              How long the United States will hold out is unknown (but not for long for any - until the official increase in the interest rate and the panic caused by it). The US is now "agonizingly delaying the end for itself." And the stock of gold for any pocket does not pull (well, the development of the economy is slightly slowed down), but there is some guarantee of minimizing losses in the event of a collapse of $, + the ability to enter the ruble into the cut. currency.
              I think so.
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 April 7 2016 18: 53
                +1
                Vetal999

                Not the United States, do not delay anyone's end.

                The fact that you wrote everything correctly. Loans on a loan.
                In the United States, and so the amount of free housing exceeds the number of homeless or solvent.

                But there are several positive characteristics.
                Strong domestic market. Strong, powerful industry of group "A". (Group "A" - production of means of production)

                And of course, natural resources and gold reserves.

                What about debts? You know it yourself ...
                1. shamil
                  shamil April 8 2016 22: 11
                  +1
                  US Gold Reserve. The thing is pretty suspicious. Even members of the government and the Senate are not allowed to audit it. Germany was also not given back, they were not even allowed to see how their ingots lay (they returned from 2000 with something just 130 tons and then foreign ingots). And the story of the sale of tungsten gold!
                  It seems that all property in the US is in the hands of bankers.
              2. Foxmara
                Foxmara April 7 2016 22: 05
                +2
                Quote: Vetal999
                How much the US hold out is unknown

                It is believed that black, he is the 44th last president of the United States.
                As a probability, I can assume that it was not the collapse of the empire that was predicted, but for example its transformation into something else (predictors often sin with such inaccuracies) and there will no longer be presidential rule. But everything can be sad. crying
              3. Allitet
                Allitet April 8 2016 13: 24
                +4
                The Germans, too, have cut it through for several years, trying to get their gold back from the United States, otherwise the Americans are stopping their holes for them.

                The Americans returned to the Germans some part of the gold, but some not gold, but gold bars (from some alloy), also did with China. But these guys were not stupid at all, they checked the gold for authenticity and returned it to the Yankees. Where did the real gold go?
                The Yankees accuse our businessmen of the so-called "Panamanian offshores", and they themselves have stolen 21 trillion from the whole world in full view of everyone. dollars.
                1. shamil
                  shamil April 8 2016 22: 15
                  +3
                  They returned a small portion of 130t of real gold, but not the ingots that Germany deposited. Where did the US get to at least somehow cover its return obligation? I think it was not in vain that there were wars in the Near and Middle East.
              4. Alex20042004
                Alex20042004 April 9 2016 18: 45
                +1
                Five points !!!!!!!!!!!
                On average, Americans owe more than $ 6 to every inhabitant of the planet. - give - fount!
            2. user
              user April 8 2016 10: 46
              0
              Who has a printing press, he has an AAA rating))


              It's not just about the printing press, they have three main rating agencies, and our head of government believes that such an agency seems to be especially not necessary for us.
              1. Foxmara
                Foxmara April 8 2016 16: 52
                0
                you're not right.
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        2. Altona
          Altona April 7 2016 11: 48
          +4
          Quote: Lance
          Long-term well-being does not depend on tons of redhead in the basements of the Central Bank, but on the country's economy and legislative measures to protect it, and also on monetary policy, in which the Central Bank acts as a stick in the fifth wheel ...

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          Strongly agree. Absolutely. You won’t eat a gold bar.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver April 7 2016 16: 06
            -12%
            Quote: Altona
            Strongly agree. Absolutely. You won’t eat a gold bar.
            There are not many chips needed. Yes, by the way, the silicon that is in microchips, worth its weight in gold, will even be more expensive, but how is it in Russia with its production?
            And toilet bowls of gold do not end well, ask Yanukovosch.
            1. gladcu2
              gladcu2 April 7 2016 18: 56
              0
              Revolver

              Why is silicon so expensive? Is structure and cleaning really so expensive or are there critical requirements?
              1. paul-muatdeeb
                paul-muatdeeb April 7 2016 22: 40
                0
                No, a very large number of chips go into marriage. From launched into production 100 pcs. OTC goes from strength 10
        3. nikon7717
          nikon7717 April 8 2016 17: 07
          +1
          It seems you didn’t carefully read the article and did not understand the essence of the actions of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation:
          1. Fighting the Plan: “In October 1973, US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger spoke of the“ petrodollar. ”In fact, since then, the value of the dollar has not been provided by gold, but by oil. Thanks to the manipulation of Kissinger and others, the price of oil in 1973 rose by 400 percent. "
          2. Actions to create a new reserve currency: "And here's another interesting thing: the Russian Central Bank sells US Treasury securities to buy gold, and this" de facto means de-dollarization. " + "The central banks of Russia and China are acquiring gold at a rapid pace. Moreover, the People's Bank of China announced that it is refusing to peg the national currency to the US dollar in favor of a basket of currencies led by the euro" + the BRICS currency fund and settlements on the St. oil without dollar.
          This is all the quiet work of the Central Bank)) for the future.
        4. spiriolla-45
          spiriolla-45 April 9 2016 12: 48
          0
          [quote = Lance] Long-term well-being does not depend on tons of redhead in the basements of the Central Bank, but on the country's economy and legislative measures to protect it, and also on monetary policy, in which the Central Bank acts as a stick in the fifth wheel ..
          Our well-being, first of all, depends on how often corrupt ghouls come to power. Utyrki ready to sell their point for loot, more harm to the state than foreign "partners", in comparison with this infection, everything else is secondary.
      2. Jarilo
        Jarilo April 7 2016 06: 34
        +5
        Yes, they influence it by selling it. Canada can’t influence anymore, because they no longer have a gold reserve, physically.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek April 7 2016 09: 25
          +7
          Quote: Jarilo
          Canada can’t influence anymore, because they no longer have a gold reserve, physically.


          Well, practically no gold is in Germany (almost 100% of the stock is in Fort Knox), and partly in China (50% in the same place). Moreover, for the storage of this gold, both Germany and China pay interest on its value to the same United States in bucks. And even more, given the theft of America, it is unlikely that these countries will receive their full metal if requested by the owner. bully
          1. vlad_vlad
            vlad_vlad April 7 2016 10: 12
            +10
            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: Jarilo
            Canada can’t influence anymore, because they no longer have a gold reserve, physically.


            Well, practically no gold is in Germany (almost 100% of the stock is in Fort Knox), and partly in China (50% in the same place).


            Lelek, the materiel must be known, not invented.
            Of 3384 tons of German gold - in America (in NY, by the way) there are 43%, 13% in London, 9% in Paris and 35% in Germany.
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut April 7 2016 10: 41
              +3
              Russia, whose gold reserves were plundered during the Yeltsin era.

              In the era of Elzin, there was no more gold in the treasury, only debts and a printing press for GKOs. The largest export of gold from the country was during the time of Lenin.
              1. shamil
                shamil April 8 2016 22: 19
                +1
                The largest gold reserve for the country was created by Stalin. And then they just ate it.
                1. Cro-Magnon
                  Cro-Magnon April 9 2016 22: 14
                  0
                  That's right! And let me remind you about the "gold embargo" ... a ban on trade with the USSR for gold! These scum demanded to pay only with grain ... knowing that the country was an agrarian, in fact, they wanted to arrange a famine ... and they rolled! Industrialization demanded currency, gold was not accepted for payment ... so they saved up! Plus, after the Second World War, Stalin wanted to introduce the gold ruble in response to Bretonwood, spreading it to the entire social camp ...
            2. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina April 8 2016 09: 02
              +9
              Quote: vlad_vlad
              Lelek, the materiel must be known, not invented.
              Of 3384 tons of German gold - in America (in NY, by the way) there are 43%, 13% in London, 9% in Paris and 35% in Germany.


              It is precisely these 43% that the Germans will never see, and this, for a second, is 1455 tons of gold, which is not much more than Russia's gold reserve! Yes, and 13% in London (440 tons), most likely the Germans also will not see, well, unless they unleash the next battle for Britain. In general, what got to America, consider what is missing. These greedy uncles Sam will never let out of their twisted claws, not a single cent, which they can reach.
              1. Cro-Magnon
                Cro-Magnon April 9 2016 22: 16
                +1
                And someone promised the Germans to give it back ... everyone perfectly understood that this was indemnity for the Second World War and a guarantee for the period of stay of Germany in the EU and NATO!
            3. shamil
              shamil April 8 2016 22: 17
              +1
              So check the availability of these 43%
          2. Mister22408
            Mister22408 April 7 2016 11: 39
            0
            They will get the metal, but which one? :-)
            http://fishki.net/1248182-zolotye-slitki-iz-ssha-soderzhat-volfram.html
          3. tol100v
            tol100v April 7 2016 12: 47
            +3
            Quote: Lelek
            It is unlikely that these countries will receive their full metal if requested by the owner.

            Not only that, but partially! They just won’t get anything in the form of metal. Receive paper certificates!
            1. Lelek
              Lelek April 7 2016 15: 30
              +1
              Quote: Tol100v
              Receive paper certificates!


              Well, thank God, at least that. There will be something to wipe. good
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 April 7 2016 18: 58
          0
          Jarilo

          Canada is not a country of strategic equilibrium in the world. This is rather good than bad.
      3. MolGro
        MolGro April 7 2016 06: 57
        +3
        Correction was determined)
        They took away this right, without noise and dust!
        since March 20, 2015, now not only banks in England determine the price of gold, but also banks in other countries!
      4. ruAlex
        ruAlex April 7 2016 09: 24
        +14
        The Central Banks of Russia and China are not in vain buying gold, it has a thousand-year history and people trusted it until Western magnates like the Rockefellers, Rothschilds and others robbed all subsequent generations, by various manipulations they became its real owners. For example, 300 years ago a cow cost 7 kopecks! And any human labor was provided with that very gold. Need to return the Gold Standard.
        1. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 April 7 2016 10: 09
          +1
          You are definitely right. So it will be with time. After some time, hydrocarbons will come to an end and a new standard will be needed and everything will return to gold ...
      5. Mister22408
        Mister22408 April 7 2016 11: 37
        +9
        In no case do not specify the nationality of these persons ... bully
      6. Altona
        Altona April 7 2016 11: 48
        +9
        Quote: venaya
        So it should be, only really, in practice, the price of gold is determined by a very limited circle of people in London, in view of their financial situation, and really having the ability to influence the price of gold in a specific period of time.

        --------------------
        We do not need to buy gold or other assets. the prices for which are dictated to us from the outside, and to make our country self-sufficient. To develop infrastructure and create jobs. Gold is all well and good, but you won’t be full of gold or you will be fed a couple of years until you sell everything. And the infrastructure will help to live 20-30 years after the USSR, for example. Again, roads, electricity and gas will create the conditions for living and doing business. And gold is just gold.
        1. Xsanchez
          Xsanchez April 7 2016 17: 12
          +3
          And here you are, Altona, wrong: of course you need to develop everything, both infrastructure, industry, and everything else. But when the northern beast arrives, and he comes anyway, everyone will fall, and we will fall, but if you know where to fall , you can add straws. In our case, straw is gold. Just remember: with the next ruble fall, everyone bought dollars. And if the dollar falls, it’s only in gold.
        2. jktu66
          jktu66 April 8 2016 00: 22
          +1
          Develop infrastructure and create jobs
          those. you don’t have to sit on the priest exactly but do business, right? And under ZZ the state in a difficult year can take a loan, for example. We will have to make a self-sufficient country ourselves.
      7. OlegLex
        OlegLex April 7 2016 16: 52
        0
        the price of gold is determined by a very limited circle of people in London, due to their financial situation, and really having the ability to influence the price of gold in a specific period of time.
        They can, but correctly say, while they can, it all depends on the quantity in one hand.
      8. hrapon
        hrapon April 7 2016 18: 14
        +3
        Quote: venaya
        Quote: Jarilo
        For decades, gold has not changed in its purchasing power compared to inflation-prone currencies.

        So it should be, only really, in practice, the price of gold is determined by a very limited circle of people in London, in view of their financial situation, and really having the ability to influence the price of gold in a specific period of time.


        Not long left for the British Bobik to fatten:

        "China continues to move away from the western gold market. From April 19, 2016, the country will begin to operate its own fixing for gold, calculated in yuan.

        Since June 2015, the Central Bank of China began annually announcing its gold reserves, although until that moment the last time the Chinese gold reserve had been reported back in the distant 2009 year. As you know, now the world price of gold is calculated in London during electronic pricing, for which LBMA is responsible. But soon the situation will change.

        Starting April 19 of this year, the Shanghai Gold Exchange will calculate the value of precious metals in Chinese currency. This innovation was first announced at the beginning of last 2015 year.

        The details of Chinese fixing in RMB have recently become known. According to available information, foreign companies will be allowed to trade in physical gold, which will be able to maintain the anonymity of their customers. Such a privilege will not apply to Chinese companies whose customers will be displayed in the trading system under their number.

        The participants in the pricing process will receive five minutes before the start of the auction in order to announce the first bid, which is calculated as the average of all the offers of the fixing participants. The final price of gold begins to form during the multi-round auction. For comparison: in London, the initiator of the first bid before the auction and with each repeated round is “an anonymous and independent chairman with rich experience in bidding”.

        Bidders in Shanghai will have 60 seconds after the price has been determined to make a decision to buy gold. The top 16 traders (market makers) will have another 10 seconds to adjust the "price tolerance". If during the auction the trading volume is less than 400 kg, then the gold price is not fixed, and the pricing process starts over. "

        Source: http: //gold.ru/news/kitaj-na-puti-k-fiksingu-na-zoloto-v-juanjah.html and here: http: //www.trade-ua.com/markets/nachalo -novoj-igry /
      9. Asadullah
        Asadullah April 7 2016 21: 52
        +5
        the price of gold is determined by a very limited circle of people in London,


        First you need to clarify what kind of gold is involved. On the stock exchange, on paper, or gold bullion in fact. Gold bullion is much more expensive than stock bullion, and you just do not buy stock gold in securities to exchange in fact bullion. In this case, your money will be returned to you and deleted from the lists of bidders, at the same time, both from the London Stock Exchange and from the New York. So here it is, gold. It is interesting that in the circulation of gold in the funds, much more than it was mined in the entire history of mankind. An amazing thing, the modern economy, she outdid the medieval alchemists, they even involved mercury in the process, and these products are metamorphosed from a vacuum. Your deeds are wonderful, Lord.
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      11. anykin
        anykin April 8 2016 10: 01
        0
        "the price of gold is determined by a very limited circle of people"

        One comrade wrote that in gold calculations one must rely on his weight.
        Barrel of oil = xx kg of gold, airplane = xx kg of gold.
        Treasury ticket = xx kg of gold (if anyone is interested in candy wrappers)))
      12. nikon7717
        nikon7717 April 8 2016 16: 58
        0
        There is one joke about the price of gold. Which shows the immutability of its real purchasing power.
        So 100 years ago, in about 1905-1910, a classic English wool suit cost 1 an ounce of gold. I’ll ask you - how much does such a suit cost in Moscow today? Yes! About the same as 1 ounce of gold! Area 60-90 thousand rubles.
    2. Kenneth
      Kenneth April 7 2016 08: 24
      +1
      Even before the garbage, Russia had a very low rating. True, taking into account the sanctions and the fact that they will not give us long loans anyway, by and large we don’t care what rating there is.
      1. Altona
        Altona April 7 2016 12: 47
        +4
        Quote: Kenneth
        Even before the garbage, Russia had a very low rating. True, taking into account the sanctions and the fact that they will not give us long loans anyway, by and large we don’t care what rating there is.

        -------------------------
        Our rating will be so, because everything is arranged for the export of capital and the robbery of resident firms that are engaged in something useful, in addition to speculation on the stock exchange. I personally do not see any alternatives to healthy protectionism. Talk about competition is a whim if there is no way to buy new equipment and retrain staff to work on it.
        1. Throw
          Throw April 7 2016 13: 49
          +1
          And even more: protectionism + partial copyright winked
          1. Throw
            Throw April 7 2016 14: 10
            0
            Moderators, set up the auto-corrector - the word "author" does not know. I changed it to "auto".
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null April 7 2016 14: 15
              0
              Quote: Lance
              Moderators, set up the auto-corrector - the word "author" does not know. I changed it to "auto".

              And so if:

              autharkia

              Highlighted "a" - in angelic layout yes
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 April 7 2016 19: 07
          0
          Altona

          To have a good rating, you need to be a country owning a rating agency.

          In the end, if there is deception somewhere, deception will pull a "snowball". It will be worse if deceived, and then it will fly in as deceivers.
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    4. Pimply
      Pimply April 7 2016 09: 05
      0
      Quote: Jarilo
      Gold for decades in its purchasing power does not change in contrast to currencies subject to inflation,

      Actually, it changes a lot. Gold is a product for which there is demand and supply.
      1. jjj
        jjj April 7 2016 09: 40
        +4
        Opponents recall the relatively low liquidity of this precious metal: after all, the sale involves the need to move a heavy load. In addition, speculators will notice the preparation of the transaction for the sale of a large shipment of gold and rush to collapse prices. As a result, the deal will not be so profitable.

        Securities are issued against the amount of gold. These papers will go around. And physical gold can be stored "in the basements of the Central Bank"
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 April 7 2016 10: 12
          -11%
          Quote: jjj
          physical gold can be stored "in the basements of the Central Bank"


          Will be taken away slowly by "effective managers"
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 7 2016 10: 45
        +2
        Reserves are not replenished with gold alone - there are still many other rare metals that are more expensive than gold.
      3. Altona
        Altona April 7 2016 12: 44
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        Actually, it changes a lot. Gold is a product for which there is demand and supply.

        --------------------
        In addition to the "invisible hand of the market," there is the Washington regional committee, which can bring down prices for any product, depending on a political whim. It doesn't matter if it is oil, water, gold, rare earth metals or something else. It depends on the trade balance of a country or group of countries resisting the US dictatorship.
    5. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 April 7 2016 10: 06
      +1
      All these ratings are made known to anyone, and they generally do not correspond to the real state of affairs ... well, and historically proven gold, it is gold .....
    6. redeemer
      redeemer April 7 2016 10: 06
      +3
      The simple question is, why is gold always in price?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 7 2016 12: 44
        +2
        Gold is a rare metal, and rare metals are always valuable.
    7. max702
      max702 April 7 2016 11: 11
      +6
      Russia has an extremely low ratio of external debt to GDP: about 18% compared with 103% in the United States, 94% in the eurozone countries, more than 200% in Japan. And this fact is deliberately ignored by Western rating agencies. “Russia has a much healthier economy than most Western countries trumpeting its economic collapse,” Engdahl summarizes
      So many people forget about this when they nod at the well-being in Western countries .. But in vain! In addition to robbery of everything and all sharply inflated budgets and "successful" GDPs are the basis of a well-fed life in the West. That is, everyone who earned a thousand there gets just to his earnings, another 1-2 and it turns out at his disposal 2-3 .. Hence the purchasing power and living standards and much more .. This is a soap bubble! BUT while it is being credited by robbery of the rest of the world and false statements by world bankers .. And this time is coming to an end for everything is robbed, sales markets are overstocked and the system has reached an impasse .. Exit two, this is a sharp decrease in consumption, and with it the standard of living , or total robbery of the majority by the minority .. And it seems to me under this batch (according to the plans of the world behind the scenes) all but the Anglo-Saxons will fall, and these are Europeans and, Russians, and Chinese and others ..
    8. Stas157
      Stas157 April 7 2016 13: 11
      +2
      Quote: Jarilo
      For decades, gold has not changed in its purchasing power in contrast to inflation-prone currencies, and in the face of outrageous printing presses this is probably the best way out.

      In 1999, gold was trading at $ 250 per troy ounce, in 2011 it reached $ 1900, in December 2015 it was at $ 1050, and this hour is trading at $ 1237. These are the slides.
      1. Xsanchez
        Xsanchez April 7 2016 17: 24
        0
        World speculators draw the price of gold as they like and need it: when they sell, they are more expensive, they buy, they are cheaper. There are no technical and financial justifications for this price, it is sucked from the bulldozer. This situation will continue as long as the dollar is the world currency, but hegemony ends then find out the true price of gold
    9. meriem1
      meriem1 April 7 2016 15: 04
      0
      Quote: Jarilo
      And at the same time, Russia has a garbage rating, according to the estimates of American rating agencies, and America has a triple A.
      For decades, gold has not changed in its purchasing power in contrast to inflation-prone currencies, and in the face of outrageous printing presses this is probably the best way out.

      Oh how. And what is written on the barn? Is the inscription true? Gold, they are gold in Africa !!! And America has a trillion-dollar and double-digit debt !!!
    10. aba
      aba April 8 2016 20: 30
      0
      And at the same time, Russia has a garbage rating, according to the estimates of American rating agencies, and America has a triple A.

      And what surprises you then ?! In fact, rating agencies are a means of competition in the international arena, and if this fact is accepted, then all their ratings become transparent and whose interests are protected by these organizations.
    11. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock April 9 2016 11: 15
      0
      Quote: Jarilo
      for decades, the purchasing power has not changed in contrast to inflation-prone currencies, and in the face of outrageous printing presses this is probably the best way out.

      In fact, the price of gold is not fixed, and is also subject to fluctuations. Another thing is that these fluctuations are much less than that of the currency.
  2. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid April 7 2016 06: 13
    +10
    No matter how hard it was (according to critics) to move a weighty golden load --- it was always moved for the benefit of yourself. It would be that!
  3. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist April 7 2016 06: 13
    -1
    Read "Protocols ..." with a pencil in hand. It says all about it - where and for what.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 April 7 2016 06: 58
      +8
      Quote: armored optimist
      Read "Protocols ..."

      You’re better off reading Marx, and Lenin is also possible, useful for general development.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic April 7 2016 07: 57
        -11%
        Quote: inkass_98
        it’s better to read Marx, and Lenin is also possible, useful for general development.

        About the world revolution or what? By the way, how are the proletarians of all countries - united?
        1. jjj
          jjj April 7 2016 09: 43
          +8
          The old man Marx, of course, was a hater of Russia, but he revealed the nature and essence of capitalism precisely. And now, when the bubbles of a model of economy are collapsing, in which money produces money, bypassing goods, it is very useful to refresh memory
          1. shamil
            shamil April 8 2016 22: 34
            0
            Marx, of course, cleverly stated the evolution of capital, but at the same time, it seems intentional, emphasized the role of the oppressed masses as a driving force in the development of social relations. And now I am inclined to believe that the truth is that world history has moved precisely to the needs of owners of ownership of the means of production and capital. The people may rise to rebellion, but for an organized struggle there must be professional figures preparing the revolution. And now they who are unable to earn money legally are supported by those capitalists who are prevented by existing social relations from increasing their property and enlarging.
  4. Oleneboy_
    Oleneboy_ April 7 2016 06: 14
    +4
    Jarilo
    These are American agencies, they will write whatever rating you want. The world is dominated by the dollar. But at all times, even in those civilizations, gold was valuable.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 7 2016 06: 25
    +5
    According to Engdahl, the world is moving today "to the next similar stage": after all, the debts of the dollar system reduce the real value of paper dollars.

    And another interesting thing: the Russian Central Bank to buy gold sells US Treasury securities, and this “de facto means dedollarization”.

    It’s like a Faberge sickle, for meerkatos. Because of this, to a greater extent, they spread rot on Russia, with and without incident.
  6. cergey51046
    cergey51046 April 7 2016 06: 41
    +9
    Therefore, the stock should be gold, not gold.
  7. Galich Kos
    Galich Kos April 7 2016 06: 57
    +10
    Where are they so much gold?


    When the dollar grunts, and sooner or later it grunts and the world will be left without a general means of payment. For a while, in the good old days, gold can become such a means. Probably for this purpose we stock up a coin, in order to more or less confidently meet the day when the dollar bubble bursts.
  8. Jook
    Jook April 7 2016 07: 14
    +6
    Always, in any confusion, only precious metals were a real means of payment and were converted into anything. And now we, as one cinematic character put it - "... on the edge of a grandiose nix" In any case, green candy wrappers, in the end, you can only warm up or paste over the walls.
  9. user3970
    user3970 April 7 2016 07: 36
    0
    The information passed that the Rothschilds, possessing economic and financial resources in the amount of 300 trillions of dollars, leaving the Rockefellers of the Fed, all their gold, which is more than 8 000 tons, were taken to Shanghai. Please pay attention to the photo. If we consider that the Rothschilds in the church hierarchy belong to the LEVIT caste, then the photo can be real. That is, the de facto Vatican and its finances are allies to the Rothschilds. And also the seizure of gold belonging to the Rothschild clan and its transfer to another place (to Shanghai) is explained by the scandal with the lack thereof in Fort Knox.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply April 7 2016 09: 06
      +12
      Quote: user3970
      The information passed that the Rothschilds, possessing economic and financial resources in the amount of 300 trillions of dollars, leaving the Rockefellers of the Fed, all their gold, which is more than 8 000 tons, were taken to Shanghai. Please pay attention to the photo. If we consider that the Rothschilds in the church hierarchy belong to the LEVIT caste, then the photo can be real. That is, the de facto Vatican and its finances are allies to the Rothschilds. And also the seizure of gold belonging to the Rothschild clan and its transfer to another place (to Shanghai) is explained by the scandal with the lack thereof in Fort Knox.

      In fact, in the photo - the surviving prisoner of the Holocaust, and not Rothschild, my little illiterate friend. And Francis kisses his hand because during the years of the Second World War, the Catholic Church did not have a good role.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka April 7 2016 12: 24
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        Quote: user3970
        The information passed that the Rothschilds, possessing economic and financial resources in the amount of 300 trillions of dollars, leaving the Rockefellers of the Fed, all their gold, which is more than 8 000 tons, were taken to Shanghai. Please pay attention to the photo. If we consider that the Rothschilds in the church hierarchy belong to the LEVIT caste, then the photo can be real. That is, the de facto Vatican and its finances are allies to the Rothschilds. And also the seizure of gold belonging to the Rothschild clan and its transfer to another place (to Shanghai) is explained by the scandal with the lack thereof in Fort Knox.

        In fact, in the photo - the surviving prisoner of the Holocaust, and not Rothschild, my little illiterate friend. And Francis kisses his hand because during the years of the Second World War, the Catholic Church did not have a good role.

        And the amount is 300 trillions dollars didn’t confuse you?) In my opinion so much money physically is not ...
        1. viktor_ui
          viktor_ui April 7 2016 14: 01
          +1
          No, THERE ... 300 trillion ... divine sounds by ear drinks
      2. Lelek
        Lelek April 7 2016 15: 43
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        Actually, the photo shows a Holocaust survivor, not Rothschild, my little illiterate friend.


        You're right. The Bilderberg Fathers look different:
    2. Lelek
      Lelek April 7 2016 15: 39
      +1
      Quote: user3970
      his movement to another place (in Shanghai) is due to the scandal with the absence thereof at Fort Knox.


      At Fort Knox, the facts of forgery were revealed, where gold was replaced by ingots of other metals with surface gilding. But the Americans scandal somehow managed to hush up.
    3. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 7 2016 23: 50
      0
      Why so weak? It was possible to napotoshit how everyone present kissed the hand of Vladimir Vladimirovich.
  10. Awaz
    Awaz April 7 2016 07: 41
    +7
    In itself, the idea of ​​buying gold is generally not bad. But too many BUT. Russia buys gold with money earned from the sale of oil. And right now oil is being sold for nothing, and due to the activity of China and the Russian Federation on the purchase of gold, the prices for this metal rose a lot. As already noted, the price of gold is determined in general by a gang of British speculators and it will not be difficult to bring down at the right time. The only thing is the purchase of gold from domestic producers, which, as it turns out, are also sanctioned and Western banks do not buy Russian gold, however, like Russian ones, too. As if from local producers in such a situation, you can buy gold at a discount below the market price.
    It is also worth understanding that no one really knows in open sources how much gold the US and the EU actually have, and even China. All are encrypted. Only the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is actively bragging about its "successes" by driving the price of buying gold out of bounds.
    and in general, the Russian Federation has monopolies on some strategic metals, even more expensive and more liquid, which should also be paid attention to. At the time of Stalin, the authorities of the USSR deliberately misled the world markets for some strategic metals, driving their prices to heaven and didn’t make bad money from it.
    1. soul
      soul April 7 2016 07: 46
      +5
      Russia buys gold with money earned from the sale of oil

      Perhaps this applies to metal purchases abroad. You can buy gold from Russian producers through the issue of rubles, while not accelerating inflation
    2. PKK
      PKK April 7 2016 13: 13
      -4
      It is possible that the purchase of gold by Russia was agreed with Britain. America has so salted and salted the whole World that everyone is trying to strangle it and the actions of all participants can be agreed upon.
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    4. Stas157
      Stas157 April 7 2016 13: 28
      +1
      Quote: AwaZ
      As already noted, the price of gold is determined in general by a gang of British speculators and it will not be difficult to bring down at the right time.

      Yes, if you have a huge amount of gold or a huge amount of money. Moreover, if you sell gold against the market, you can easily get a loss, catch a margin call. Therefore, I am not sure that British speculators also believe that it will not be difficult to bring down the gold!
      1. Awaz
        Awaz April 8 2016 09: 16
        0
        it is necessary to understand that these exchanges are controlled by people who possess the majority of the world's financial resources. Perhaps between some financial clans there are "graters" and misunderstandings "but in general and on the whole they work according to the same system and in a general way: this is neo-colonialism, that is, the siphoning of resources from those who have them with all the possibilities. Russia, when it sold oil at exorbitant prices, did not buy gold, but just pissed off (God forgive me) these grandmothers in all sorts of dubious projects for the joy of cattle and the world community.Now, when oil is cheap, they began to buy expensive gold.Then, when the price of gold falls, they will sell it to plug the holes If you look closely, it turns out that all this is at a loss, for the benefit of speculators who just make money on such suckers.
    5. Lelek
      Lelek April 7 2016 15: 52
      +2
      Quote: AwaZ
      ... and because of the activity of China and the Russian Federation on the purchase of gold, the prices for this metal rose very much.


      Well, it’s not for nothing that Clintonsha emits urine and threatens to drive Beijing along the line (if she is chosen as the producer of America).
      (cry.)
    6. shamil
      shamil April 8 2016 22: 40
      0
      Russia produces more than 200 tons of gold annually. If the Central Bank buys 120-130 tons, and the rest goes to jewelry, then everything is fine. And louder it is necessary to declare the purchase of gold. This increases its world price. At the same time, the Central Bank pays in rubles.
  11. soul
    soul April 7 2016 07: 41
    +3
    because the sale is associated with the need to move a weighty load
    speculators will notice the preparation of a deal to sell a large consignment of gold and rush to collapse prices

    The answer to such "specialists" is obvious: if necessary, gold can be sold nominally, and physical metal can be left for storage on the territory of the Russian Federation. Will the buyer agree to this? Well, Russia, unlike the United States, has no tarnished reputation.
  12. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 7 2016 08: 01
    +5
    Big changes are coming in the global financial system.
    Oildollar ordered a long life. Because he began to politicize.
    World powers are preparing for this.
    And it seems that everyone is betting on gold.
    In the end, you still have to come to an agreement again. Since the world economy is open and a universally recognized standard of commodity exchange is needed.
    Gold, however, provides at least some opportunity to have a margin of safety in this area.
  13. kirgudu
    kirgudu April 7 2016 08: 07
    +3
    Uses US debt securities to buy? Not true. Russia only increased the volume of purchases thereof. As a result, over the year they added 15 mlr. candy wrappers.
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 7 2016 08: 15
    -3
    The price of gold also fluctuates in dollars.
    Most US gold.
    At any time at their convenience, the States will throw
    there is a large portion of gold on the market and its price will drop sharply.

    Many countries, on the contrary, are selling their stocks completely.
    Canada recently completely abandoned gold. Israel
    gold does not hold.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 7 2016 08: 43
      +8
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The price of gold also fluctuates in dollars.
      Most US gold.
      At any time at their convenience, the States will throw
      there is a large portion of gold on the market and its price will drop sharply.

      What prevents you from buying cheap gold a lot at such a moment? The USA cannot endlessly throw off a coin for dumping, and one-time shares will only help speculators and large players on the exchange.
      And there are still questions about the availability of gold from the United States, has it not been distributed in private hands for a long time? Because you can declare anything.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 7 2016 09: 21
        +4
        "What prevents you from buying a lot of gold cheaply at such a moment?" ////

        It is necessary that there should be a lot of free dollars at such a moment. smile
        1. Zvon
          Zvon April 7 2016 14: 18
          0
          And in order to have a lot of free dollars, we need to have a lot of oil that we are already selling for "dead American presidents"! And we have enough oil. As a result, we trade oil for gold!
        2. Corsair
          Corsair April 8 2016 14: 29
          0
          what We have some US papers (debt receipts? - xs) that the government likes to buy instead of investing free money in the development of its own industry, they beautifully call it protection of funds.
          On the one hand, it is understandable - its own is ditched - we are not developing, in fact, there is nothing to invest in. Plus, some stocks of currencies are needed just for everyone, but these pieces of paper can be resold on the market, but it’s not clear from the other - why, let’s say, from China (or someone else), they have technological cranes and ships, and other things, including technologies themselves, we don’t buy, since the United States does not sell, there would be those who quietly went off quietly.
    2. Danash I
      Danash I April 7 2016 10: 08
      +1
      THOSE. can these economies withstand fluctuations due to internal sustainability? A serious bid.
    3. shamil
      shamil April 8 2016 22: 42
      0
      Do you still believe in the presence of gold in the United States? How there is blessed the ignorant?
  15. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs April 7 2016 08: 22
    +10
    Russia threw the dollar into the trash can. In response, the trash can gave Russia a "trash" rating.
  16. Ozhogin Dmitry
    Ozhogin Dmitry April 7 2016 08: 26
    +9
    Comrade Gaddafi wanted to bet on gold and abandon the dollar. What ended, everyone knows. Fortunately, Russia is not Libya. Americans do not allow anyone to audit their gold reserves in the Federal Reserve Bank. The dollar is generally the most unique currency. It does not belong to the state, you can print as much as you like, while it’s not provided with anything. When it opens, there will be a global worldwide pi..ec.
    1. _my opinion
      _my opinion April 7 2016 13: 10
      +1
      Quote: Ozhogin Dmitry
      Comrade Gaddafi wanted to bet on gold and abandon the dollar. What ended, everyone knows. Fortunately, Russia is not Libya. Americans do not allow anyone to audit their gold reserves in the Federal Reserve Bank. The dollar is generally the most unique currency. It does not belong to the state, you can print as much as you like, while it’s not provided with anything. When it opens, there will be a global worldwide pi..ec.

      I believe that many (of those who invest in dollars) are aware of its real value ... while this financial pyramid is afloat, they invest in it ...
  17. Captain45
    Captain45 April 7 2016 08: 33
    +4
    Quote: kirgudu
    Uses US debt securities to buy? Not true. Russia only increased the volume of purchases thereof. As a result, over the year they added 15 mlr. candy wrappers.

    "Suddenly, the PRC keeps in the "Treasury" - you just grip the chair more tightly - $ 1.22 trillion as of the end of December 2015. Agree that the Russian contribution of $ 130 and a tail of billions as of January 2014 to the same "Treasuries" does not look very impressive (for comparison: small Venezuela's deposits in American securities exceed $ 250 billion). And if you look at the graph of Russia's deposits in the Treasury over the past couple of years, the turbopatriots will be pleasantly upset: the downward trend in deposits in American securities is very clear. Russia moved from 12th place to 20th, and this is not the limit. So what, the question asks, chew snot? Selling these worthless pieces of paper - and all of a short time! De-dollarization of the economy! "Heavy shackles will fall, dungeons will collapse and freedom will greet us joyfully at the entrance ...". "(c) from the article Note to the patriots: Why is Russia buying American securities?further here: http: //finobzor.ru/show-9401-na-zametku-patriotam-zachem-rossiya-pokupaet-
    amerikanskie-cennye-bumagi.html.A very interesting point of view of the author on the purchase of "Treasury"
    1. shamil
      shamil April 8 2016 22: 47
      0
      Well, in general, the direction of dedollarization is right. But Russia must have some amount of dollars for current international trade. You need to live today, and the world economy will continue to rely on these candy wrappers for a long time.
  18. hartlend
    hartlend April 7 2016 09: 07
    0
    All reliable information on stocks and movement of physical gold is carefully hidden. A lot of people and a lot of things say on this topic. Check is still impossible. The price of gold is very tightly regulated by certain rules and tied to the dollar to maintain its high exchange rate with other currencies.
  19. Crown
    Crown April 7 2016 09: 11
    +2
    It is necessary to destroy the Western economic, I would say a parasitic model. We must go to a new, fair level. The Rothshelds, Rockefellers and others, on the scrap metal of history. Stop the ghoul vampires to spoil humanity.
  20. lablizn
    lablizn April 7 2016 09: 14
    +5
    Gold has never been a "speculative" commodity. It played a decisive role in international trade during periods of wars and major financial crises.
    And the fact that the next crisis, moreover on a planetary scale, is ripening before our eyes, all the more or less competent economists say.
    And this crisis has a systemic character, i.e. The economic model based on monetary policy has completely outlived itself today.
    And its collapse began with the decline of colonialism, when dozens of countries - former protectorates - turned out to be left to their own devices without sufficient domestic economic resources.
    The only thing that keeps the world on the verge of a financial collapse is the dominance of the United States, but it cannot last very long, because the amount of unsecured wealth is inevitable
    will lead to the collapse of the global financial system.
    Moreover, this process is sharply accelerating, almost exponentially, at a pace.
    What follows, no one can predict, only one thing is clear:
    a solid cash equivalent will be claimed.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 7 2016 09: 32
      +8
      "Gold has never been a 'speculative' commodity" ////

      It was and how!
      Spain once exported from its
      colonies in South America tons and tons of gold.
      Did you get rich? Not. Go broke. Gold has depreciated.
      Spain defaulted.

      Increasing gold reserves is the same as printing money on a machine tool.
      Too much gold in the market, same as too much gold
      paper money in the market.

      The strength of any currency is provided by the strength of the economy of this country, and
      not gold stock or printing press.
      While America builds Boeing, ships, communications satellites, computers, machine tools, makes
      science dollar will be strong. When it won't be, even if the Americans
      they will buy all the gold of the world, it will not help them.
      1. Mister22408
        Mister22408 April 7 2016 11: 47
        +2
        Yes, yes, the Saudis do not know about this.
      2. Zvon
        Zvon April 7 2016 15: 10
        +4
        It used to be like this: That the amount of money printed by the state must be backed by gold. Why was it done? In order to be able to assess the value of the currency of another state, the exchange rate of all states depended on this. After all, states must somehow trade with each other. A simple example: you and I each have one kg of gold, I printed 300 banknotes, and you print 200, which means that the rate of 1: 1.5 for 1 of your piece of paper gives 1,5 mine. It's fair! Further, based on the amount of gold and the number of banknotes in all countries, currency exchange rates are set! If you want your paper to be more expensive, mine or buy gold and print fewer banknotes. The key word is "less", not the other way around!
        Going back to hard currency, as it used to be, that is, no one wants to wear gold coins, it's hard after all. And to make gold a measure of all currencies on the planet is a very good option. And it does not matter paper money or electronic. If the exchange rate will be calculated on an honest and transparent basis, and not as it is now!
        And now this is how: the United States is forcing the whole world, some by force, some by deception, some by blackmail, some by terrorists intimidating to buy Tricerises from them for dollars that other countries will forge in exchange for their “natural resources” for which they are building: Boeings , ships, communication satellites, computers, machine tools, doing science!
        So it turns out that everything that does "like America" ​​is actually done by the whole world, including you and me, and all the glory goes to them. And we work with you from morning to night and walk with holes in our socks!
        I’ve started all this, and to what Russia, China and others do right. countries buying gold, someday this worldwide swindle will end and an honest and fair partnership will begin!
      3. Rivares
        Rivares April 7 2016 15: 18
        +4
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Spain once exported from its
        colonies in South America tons and tons of gold.
        Did you get rich? Not. Go broke. Gold has depreciated.
        Spain defaulted.

        After does not mean consequence. Gold did not depreciate but fell in price. Gold reserves are also one of the markers of state power. When Spain went broke she lost all the gold (and did not stay with worthless bullion). And the ruin was the result of certain policies in this country.
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Increasing gold reserves is the same as printing money on a machine tool.
        Too much gold in the market, same as too much gold
        paper money in the market.

        The first statement is false, gold is rare, you just won’t get it from the machine, and paper and paints are publicly available. But the second is more or less true. As a result, the reader swallows false representations))
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The strength of any currency is provided by the strength of the economy of this country, and
        not gold stock or printing press.
        While America builds Boeing, ships, communications satellites, computers, machine tools, makes
        science dollar will be strong. When it won't be, even if the Americans
        they will buy all the gold of the world, it will not help them

        The only problem is that the strength of the US economy is provided by the dollar as a world currency.
        There will be no world dollar; the United States will not have Boeing, ships, computers, cheap intellectual and slave power. As countries began to turn from green to gold, so in the states there were difficulties with the economy, and the more they refuse, the more difficulties. Such a self-unwinding spiral at the end of which the collapse of the dollar neocolonialism.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 7 2016 15: 56
          -4
          "There will be no world dollar, the United States will not have Boeing, ships, computers" ////

          Until 1976, the dollar was not a world currency, and the United States flourished even
          more than now. wink
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 April 7 2016 18: 55
            +5
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Until 1976, the dollar was not a world currency, and the United States flourished even
            more than now.

            The dollar became the world currency following the Bretton Woods agreement, which approved the "gold-dollar standard." The currencies of 44 countries have become tightly tied to the US dollar!
            In 1971, the United States abandoned the gold plating. And at about the same time, Henry Kissenger bent over Saudi Arabia to trade oil for only bucks.
          2. Rivares
            Rivares April 8 2016 01: 34
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Until 1976, the dollar was not a world currency, and the United States flourished even

            In 1946, after the war, the United States announced that the dollar was pegged to gold. And the countries that "lost" all the gold during the world war had to provide their currencies instead of gold in dollars. Stalin flatly refused to sign this agreement for the USSR (Bretton Woods). After that, the USSR organized an "iron" curtain. 1946 can be considered the beginning of the dollar's global dominance.
  21. Consul-t
    Consul-t April 7 2016 09: 20
    +6
    The purchase of gold also has critics, notes the Russian Business Journal. Opponents recall the relatively low liquidity of this precious metal: after all, the sale involves the need to move a heavy load.


    What can be answered by such specialists? It's funny ...
    It's funny that in their opinion candy wrappers are better than gold ...
    That is why we are sitting in the train ... because such people are in charge of our economy.
  22. mihasik
    mihasik April 7 2016 09: 27
    +3
    ... The economist further emphasizes that Russia (a country whose gold reserves "were plundered during the era of Boris Yeltsin's reign") ....

    And you can on this topic in more detail, so to speak in faces. And then in Russia itself, for some reason, this fact is stubbornly hushed up, but "Yeltsin-Centers" are being built. Probably a percentage of that very plundered gold and built in gratitude?
    1. Amurets
      Amurets April 7 2016 12: 54
      +2
      Quote: mihasik
      And you can on this topic in more detail, so to speak in faces. And then in Russia itself, for some reason, this fact is stubbornly hushed up, but "Yeltsin-Centers" are being built. Probably a percentage of that very plundered gold and built in gratitude?

      These are royal gold materials.
      http://www.krugozormagazine.com/show/Gold.1800.html
      And also, it seems in the early 90s, there was a documentary film "Gold of Russia". Unfortunately, I did not have a videotape, and I did not find this film on the Internet. But this film tells the whole story of the eolot of the Russian Empire. Exactly, I don’t remember from what year does the film begin, but the history of Russian gold in the 20th century is shown, it seems to be 1990. From this film, I learned how much gold got to Japan and that the USSR and the Russian Federation have documents for this gold. There was no exact data on how much gold ended up in Czechoslovakia.
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 April 7 2016 13: 58
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        Exactly, I don’t remember which year the film begins, but the history of Russian gold in the 20 century is shown, it seems in 1990 year

        There is no film, but I can recommend, if interested, read it here: http: //www.duel.ru/200219/? 18_3_2; http: //www.zavtra.ru/content/view/tajnyi-zolo
        tyih-eshelonov /; http: //communitarian.ru/personal/profile/user/20/; http: //www.fon
        dsk.ru/authors/valentin-katasonov-189.html; http://www.fondsk.ru/authors/valentin-katasonov-189.html articles by Katasonov "Gold: return to the world of money; on the website" Century "article by Vladimir Shchedrin" Russian gold. "All articles about gold in Russia, authors and accordingly, the points of view are different, so it's interesting.
      2. mihasik
        mihasik April 7 2016 15: 35
        +1
        Quote: Amurets
        These are royal gold materials.
        http://www.krugozormagazine.com/show/Gold.1800.html
        And also, it seems in the early 90s, there was a documentary film "Gold of Russia". Unfortunately, I did not have a videotape, and I did not find this film on the Internet. But this film tells the whole story of the eolot of the Russian Empire. Exactly, I don’t remember from what year does the film begin, but the history of Russian gold in the 20th century is shown, it seems to be 1990. From this film, I learned how much gold got to Japan and that the USSR and the Russian Federation have documents for this gold. There was no exact data on how much gold ended up in Czechoslovakia.

        And I remember from the 90s another "movie", in which, according to our news, they showed military transport workers, if I am not mistaken, in my opinion, in "Vnukovo", into which boxes with gold were loaded. True, this news was shown only on one day and there were no more repetitions. I wonder why?)
  23. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS April 7 2016 09: 58
    +2
    Better to buy gold than US debt.
  24. user3970
    user3970 April 7 2016 10: 49
    +8
    I will answer Pimple. Quite possibly messed up with a photo. But this does not exclude the fact that the Rothschild clan belongs to the highest caste of Jews - the Levites (for those who read the Old Testament and the Torah). And you should also know that the Holocaust is an invention of the very same Jews with the aim of getting more free money from Germany. Jews are not alone in inventing fairy tales for cattle. Vovan, looking at them, built a mausoleum in Ebnburg - a memorial modeled on the Jewish Holocaust Museum. I recommend asking how much energy is spent in modern crematoriums to turn a mortal body into dust? With a catastrophic energy deficit in Germany for that period, spend it on the disposal of corpses ?!
    1. shamil
      shamil April 9 2016 10: 39
      0
      Interested in. What about the Armenian Genocide?
  25. Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 7 2016 10: 49
    -2
    "Russia, whose gold reserves were plundered during the Yeltsin era" - And there is evidence of this.
  26. Putnik_16
    Putnik_16 April 7 2016 10: 56
    +1
    Gold is not a dollar - it will always be in price !!! hi
  27. Ru_N
    Ru_N April 7 2016 11: 36
    -1
    Reserves are measured in thousands of tons, and here it is written about millions. In the United States, 8 tons, not 134 thousand tons. Mistake!
    1. nnz226
      nnz226 April 7 2016 11: 56
      0
      8 134 (eight thousand one hundred thirty-four) tons = 8,134 thousand tons
  28. Mister22408
    Mister22408 April 7 2016 11: 49
    +1
    "The Central Bank invested half of the Russian budget in US government bonds."
    Colony tax.
    http://www.finanz.ru/novosti/obligatsii/cb-vlozhil-v-gosobligacii-ssha-polovinu-
    byudzheta-rossii-1000864730
  29. nnz226
    nnz226 April 7 2016 11: 55
    +2
    That's interesting: Germany, who lost the Second World War, has a gold reserve many times more than Russia, who won! What is it like?! Do I have to go spit on the grave of the first prize of the Identity wino? Or is Mikhail Sergeyitch pounding in the face?
    1. Muvka
      Muvka April 7 2016 14: 26
      0
      Quote: nnz226
      That's interesting: Germany, who lost the Second World War, has a gold reserve many times more than Russia, who won! What is it like?! Do I have to go spit on the grave of the first prize of the Identity wino? Or is Mikhail Sergeyitch pounding in the face?

      Germany does not have even half of this gold on hand ...
  30. silver_roman
    silver_roman April 7 2016 12: 11
    0
    The USA has the largest reserves of monetary gold - they own 8,134 thousand tons. In second place is Germany (3,381 thousand tons). The third place is occupied by the International Monetary Fund with 2,814 thousand tons. Italy and France have 2,452 thousand and 2,436 thousand tons, respectively

    It is in this order that it is worth placing your enemies. Their gold is essentially the riches of the countries of the former socialist camp and in fact the whole of eastern Europe. In fact, capital does not disappear, it flows.
    And based on these figures, it is clear where it flowed.
    The most interesting thing is that there is no data on the gold reserves of England, which has the most expensive currency in the world. That's who R-36M is crying for !!!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2016 12: 48
      -2
      "Their gold is essentially the wealth of the countries of the former socialist camp and, in fact, the whole of Eastern Europe." Again - you have proof of this, that they stole this gold.
  31. Follow us
    Follow us April 7 2016 12: 17
    +1
    Quote: Altona
    Quote: Lance
    Long-term well-being does not depend on tons of redhead in the basements of the Central Bank, but on the country's economy and legislative measures to protect it, and also on monetary policy, in which the Central Bank acts as a stick in the fifth wheel ...

    ----------------------
    Strongly agree. Absolutely. You won’t eat a gold bar.


    Is a green piece of paper virtual tastier?
  32. Litsvin
    Litsvin April 7 2016 13: 43
    +6
    AND WHERE 500 TONS OF RUSSIAN GOLD PLAYED BY TSAR NICHOLAS 2 IN 1914 IN WESTERN (ENGLISH, AMERICAN BANKS) AS A PRE-PAYMENT (THINK THROUGH !!!) FOR DELIVERY DELIVERED. The "allys" didn’t make any serious deliveries to us, but they didn’t return the gold. American women, in whose banks this gold was deposited, thought that by killing Nicholas 2 and his family, everyone would forget about gold. No, they will not forget. It is time for Russia to raise this issue at the political level. The same is about the gold reserve of the Russian Empire, the so-called "Kolchak's gold". The Anglo-American jydomason grabbed the lion's share of this gold, and everyone is told tales that gold "drowned in Lake Baikal." Isn't it time for Russia to "collect its gold" and not buy it? By the way, the only politician who "snatched the gold of his state from the playful little hands of American bankers of Jewish nationality" was De Gaulle. He was also the last independent politician in Europe and the Patriot of his Motherland in History, and not such a pathetic semblance of "US puppet politicians" like the Hollande-Sarkozy-Merkeli, etc.
    In short, gold to the homeland - to Russia. Used our Slavic little gold and that's enough
  33. user3970
    user3970 April 7 2016 14: 06
    +6
    Pimply. Some people have a head into which they not only eat. Some people have a brain in their head, but this does not apply to you. For those who have a brain ... The Levites, as the highest caste of priests - Jews are mentioned in the Old Testament and the Torah. If you consider that the loan or bank interest with the consent or blessing of God, Yahweh was invented or put into practice by the Jews. If necessary, I can provide links. There is information that Rothschild seized 8,5 tons of gold stored in Ford Knox and transported it to Shanghai. Now in the SGA is located in the repository a snag in the form of tungsten bricks covered with gold leaf, which was demonstrated in Germany and China. But China returned the gold. Remember the airplanes of the World Trade Center towers? In the cellars of the towers were more than 600 tons of gold. He was not found. For the most stupid ... 300 trillion dollars are minerals, mineral resources, industrial sectors, countries, governments, presidents. .. I would like to know what now belongs to Russian citizens in Russia? I'm afraid that only a three-finger figure. GDP said in an interview that 48% of all agricultural land is pledged by banks. Gas, oil, diamonds, timber, etc. - are these citizens of Russia or Rothschild?
  34. epsilon571
    epsilon571 April 7 2016 14: 22
    +4
    The structure of any foreign exchange reserve is clearly described in two words that make up the term. Regulation of the relationship between the “paper” and “metal” parts of this state reserve is an important job that requires, if not the gift of foresight, then at least the ability to make forecasts of varying degrees of urgency. If today the dollar is in value, this does not mean that such a situation will remain forever, or at least in the coming years. The global economy is slowing down, markets are seriously in a fever, a recession in the USA is very likely, geopolitical tensions reach a “red level”, and in such an environment there are all conditions for increasing demand for gold. At present, the issue of American currency has practically been stopped, but there are no guarantees that the federal reserve system will not decide to turn on printing presses, after all, no one can forbid this to a sovereign country. What follows will be clear. The dollar will begin to fall in price, and with it the entire “paper” component of the foreign exchange reserves.

    Until the American monetary unit has completely outlived itself as an instrument of international payments, Russia will use it and, accordingly, keep significant amounts of dollars in the foreign exchange reserve. The acquisition of gold and the reduction of the “paper” component (which, incidentally, includes other reserve currencies) does not mean abandoning it, but striving to diversify possible risks and profits. To this end, even now, US government bonds are acquired, although in much smaller volumes than before. The transition to world settlements in gold in the coming years is unlikely, but we can expect an increase in the role of various state currencies (rupees, yuan, ruble, etc.) in regional trade transactions. - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/news/economics/2016/2/26/4391
  35. karakuin
    karakuin April 7 2016 14: 32
    -2
    Well, it’s no secret that the first decree of Yaytsenyuk was the decision to export all Khokhlyat gold to Abama. And stop the gentlemen to annoy that gold is not gold and three English morons will throw and bring down prices. It will cut off entry at a low price. Do you think they are so stupid that they don’t let the Germans into the vaults, they put the gilded dolls to the Chinese? In my opinion, Vladimir Vladimirovich did not roll cotton wool and calculated that the backlog was sufficient, he bought Jewish bullshit in order to add a good argument at the right time when the Jews had a chance to rebound. Maybe I'm wrong, but the tendency for Abama to face cancer.
  36. Vetal999
    Vetal999 April 7 2016 14: 54
    0
    Quote: Vetal999
    Yes, spit on the rating of amers everyone knows that he is fake, in order to prevent a panic of his own population.
    As I think: the US has a debt of $ 21 trillion - they now live on loan to everyone.
    Any US citizen now has the opportunity to take a loan (officially) at about 2%, but in fact even less = 0,3 - 0,2%. Citizens in the United States are now spending more than they are earning, AND RESCUE FROM OLD DEBTS FOR OLD CREDITS TO US CITIZENS - PERMANENT CREDITS.
    I will not describe the reasons - for a long time, but the state of the US economy is now such that their rulers are forced to raise the interest rate on loans (if you read their official sources: up to 3-4%, but do not omit it in (-)). AND THIS IS AN INCREASED CREDIT RATE THREATENING CITIZENS IMPOSSIBILITY TO RENEW (PAY FOR OLD DEBT) ANNOUNCEMENTS AND, SEQUENTLY: COLLECTING THEIR PROPERTY BY THE BANKS (AND THERE IS A GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL).
    According to various estimates, at least 1/3 if not 1/2 amers live like this.
    The $ US debt rate will collapse even more - collapse.
    The US economy has not yet collapsed just because of blackmail to make a peep to everyone in the world.
    Our people understand the above, they understand that the problems with the $, on which the world economy is tied, will "call a furry animal", so they are buying gold - a factor of stability. (The Germans have also missed this for several years already trying to return their gold from the US storage, otherwise the Americans are already plugging their holes with it). By the way, it is possible that the Germans are blackmailed by non-return when making political decisions.
    How long the United States will hold out is unknown (but not for long for any - until the official increase in the interest rate and the panic caused by it). The US is now "agonizingly delaying the end for itself." And the stock of gold for any pocket does not pull (well, the development of the economy is slightly slowed down), but there is some guarantee of minimizing losses in the event of a collapse of $, + the ability to enter the ruble into the cut. currency.
    I think so.
  37. L10n77
    L10n77 April 7 2016 16: 18
    +1
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: AwaZ
    As already noted, the price of gold is determined in general by a gang of British speculators and it will not be difficult to bring down at the right time.

    Yes, if you have a huge amount of gold or a huge amount of money. Moreover, if you sell gold against the market, you can easily get a loss, catch a margin call. Therefore, I am not sure that British speculators also believe that it will not be difficult to bring down the gold!

    They trade on the stock exchanges not with real gold and oil, but with futures, therefore, for a collapse of prices, huge amounts of gold (oil) or money are not needed at all, but you just need to "throw in" the necessary information in time, and prices will collapse themselves.
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  39. Victor-M
    Victor-M April 7 2016 16: 39
    0
    According to the World Gold Council in March 2016, which is quoted by Gazeta.ru, the United States possesses the largest reserves of monetary gold - they own 8,134 thousand tons.

    If you do not take into account the fact that this is the gold of Washington's subordinates from the EU, and is "kept" from the threat of "Russian aggression". therefore laughing
  40. cedar
    cedar April 7 2016 18: 39
    +4
    "They trade on the stock exchanges not with real gold and oil, but with futures, therefore, for the collapse of prices, huge amounts of gold (oil) or money are not needed at all, but you just need to" throw in "the necessary information in time, and the prices themselves will collapse."

    Gold is a kind of antidollar. A collapse of gold will fly the dollar. And vice versa.
    Only at first glance, the owners of the dollar is profitable .., but the owners of the gold is not. But those and other owners of gold and currency exchanges. Therefore, nothing can be thrown on such exchanges, and in principle there are no self-failures there. No, because gold is MONEY, and the Fed currency (not the USA!) Is the PROMISE of money ..!
    With this promise ... the cunning-wise of this world dusted the brains of all, and especially the Americans, well, how can I not recall Zadornov.
    This is the Fed’s promise ... and they want to withdraw from the mutually beneficial exchange of the PRC and the Russian Federation by switching to a clearing settlement in gold to avoid universal deception ..!
    For this feint, the Anglo-Saxons and bring down Putin, unleashing against him, i.e. against Russia, the sanctions war.
  41. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 April 7 2016 19: 44
    +1
    Here I read and zaminusovat article! Too superficial, weak! request

    Quote: Jarilo
    Gold for decades in its purchasing power has not changed unlike currencies,
    Who told you such nonsense? He was clearly mistaken. By the way, comrades noted that this is not so.

    Quote: venaya
    So it should be, only realistically, in practice, the price of gold is determined by a very limited circle of people in London
    Which does this on the London Gold Exchange. THIS IS THE ONLY LAND ON THE EARTH, where the price of gold is determined. Believe it or not. The ONLY (Shanghai attempt is still too weak).

    Quote: hrapon
    Starting April 19 of this year, the Shanghai Gold Exchange will calculate the value of precious metals in Chinese currency. This innovation was first announced at the beginning of last 2015 year.
    Wait and see. Everything in China very often changes in a couple of days.

    Quote: Xsanchez
    There is no technical and financial justification for this price, it is sucked from the bulldozer
    Why so? Uncles gather in London and set the main price. laughing

    Quote: Rivares
    Gold did not depreciate but fell in price. Gold reserves are also one of the markers of state power. When Spain went bankrupt, she lost all the gold (and did not stay with worthless bullion).
    It will obviously be a discovery for you that even 300 years after the "golden catastrophe" Spain in the beginning of the 20th century possessed the FIFTH LARGEST gold and foreign exchange reserve in the world (which was safely exported to the USSR in 1937). wink
  42. with
    with April 7 2016 20: 34
    0
    ... but read Adam Smith,
    And there was a deep economy,
    That is, he knew how to judge,
    As the state grows rich,
    And what lives, and why
    He does not need gold,
    When a simple product has.
    Father could not understand him
    And gave the land as a pledge.
    A.S. Pushkin



    Quote: Altona
    Strongly agree. Absolutely. You won’t eat a gold bar.
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  44. clidon
    clidon April 7 2016 22: 17
    +1
    Russia, whose gold reserves were plundered during the Yeltsin era, is now buying a lot of gold abroad

    I still do not understand, according to what information does Russia buy gold on the foreign market?
  45. Ramzes33
    Ramzes33 April 7 2016 22: 19
    0
    Mistake from the author - (the Russian Central Bank sells US Treasury bonds to buy gold) - Russia has been buying * US * notes for a year now. In response, the decline in confrontation with the amers (the reduction in verbal rhetoric, as if coordinated actions in Syria, Ukraine subsided), in 2014-1-half of 2015, Russia actively reduced its portfolio of US treasurers, as a result received-Donbass, sanctions, etc. Everything is interconnected — nothing personal — only business.
    The Central Bank buys gold from Russian producers through the issuance of rubles, while not accelerating inflation.
  46. faterdom
    faterdom April 7 2016 22: 43
    +1
    There are Sumerians, that for gold some anunnaki from the planet Nibiru came to us on the sinful earth. And they knew a lot about true values. Not for dollars, not for oil, and not even afraid of such sacrilege - not for democracy! To such a distance, pearls, to such wild terrain at that time ...
    And about 8 thousand tons from Americans and 3 thousand from Germans: "Show me!" It seems to me that a couple of thousand tons for both is one and the same quantitative specimen, which is considered two different.
  47. Stoler
    Stoler April 7 2016 22: 59
    0
    GOLD! and not paper dollars - that's the real CURRENCY!
  48. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 7 2016 23: 52
    0
    Why why? We will pour the toilet bowls, where we will drain the dolars. Isn't that clear?
  49. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 8 2016 03: 21
    0
    The gold-blood of an economy, just like the oil-blood of any war ...
  50. Vitalii
    Vitalii April 8 2016 09: 01
    0
    Yeah, just look at the foreign exchange reserves.