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Crimean authorities seek permission from Moscow to use military vehicles previously owned by Ukraine

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The authorities of Crimea at the federal level raise the question of whether they are allowed to use the equipment remaining on the peninsula after the departure of the Ukrainian military, reports Look With reference to the head of the region Sergey Aksenov.


Crimean authorities seek permission from Moscow to use military vehicles previously owned by Ukraine


“Such transport is more than 2,5 thousand units, which can be used for its intended purpose. For eight months we are fighting like a fish against ice. So far there is no solution, ”said Aksyonov.

According to him, the technique is not allowed to use because Ukraine put her on the wanted list.

“We offered to issue temporary passports. It is necessary to find an option that, for example, prohibits alienation, use only in the territory of the Republic of Crimea, and only by state authorities. But so far there is no solution so far. It costs so much technology, we protect, incur costs, ”said the head of the republic.

It was decided to raise this issue among dozens of others at a meeting with the Minister of Economic Development Alexei Ulyukayev.

“Everything that we designate concerns the norms of federal legislation, we will not solve them at our level,” said Aksenov. - We will raise questions on the uprooting of orchards and vineyards. There still exist in the law, in regulations, the norms related to the fact that it is necessary to provide a passport for each tree, to prove that it is over 30 years old ”.
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  1. avvg
    avvg April 6 2016 08: 52
    +20
    It was necessary to nationalize them too.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU April 6 2016 08: 56
      +42
      In 1991, such questions almost did not rise ... what was left of the principality in the courtyard of the Empire, then it became what
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 April 6 2016 09: 25
        +18
        Unfortunately, this is exactly what happened ... to my deep regret. I remembered the cut "White Swans".
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut April 6 2016 10: 20
          -2
          The military equipment of Ukraine, although foreign property, is so bad ... so bad.
          1. WKS
            WKS April 6 2016 11: 01
            +9
            Crimea as a result of the Kiev coup turned out to be the assignee of all state property of the Ukrainian state. Thus, the Crimean authorities can take away everything that used to belong to the Ukrainian state, at least on its territory.
          2. Altona
            Altona April 6 2016 12: 02
            +5
            Quote: Mahmut
            The military equipment of Ukraine, although foreign property, is so bad ... so bad.

            ----------------------------
            Passports for this technique to see how Ukrainian it is. Soviet go yet. But not Ukrainian.
      2. Blondy
        Blondy April 6 2016 10: 43
        +8
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        In 1991, such questions almost did not rise ... what was left of the principality in the courtyard of the Empire, then it became

        If you look at the principle, the Crimean government is the most legitimate authority on the territory of the former Ukraine. And the so-called central one is just a junta with American help. And if the Crimean authorities did not recognize the legitimacy of the junta, then they manage the equipment at their discretion, they have much more legitimate rights than the current Ukrainian authorities.
        It seems to me that our initially badly missed - it was necessary to transfer the Russian Embassy immediately to Donetsk - you never know who in Kiev seized power in violation of the signed obligations of such solid European powers as Germany and France, but Donetsk did not recognize the coup.
    2. cniza
      cniza April 6 2016 08: 57
      +17
      Quote: avvg
      It was necessary to nationalize them too.


      As always, the problem was created out of the blue and officials are trying to fool themselves.
      1. Wild_grey_wolf
        Wild_grey_wolf April 6 2016 09: 04
        +3
        Yes, many International bureaucratic delays have yet to be resolved, and with the Vineyards is it really bureaucracy. . . and this military transport is able to rise into the sky, in which state it is already 2,5 thousand.
        1. Koshak
          Koshak April 6 2016 21: 33
          0
          Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
          and this military transport is able to rise into the sky, in which state it is already 2,5 thousand.

          Most likely, we are talking about vehicles.
      2. gergi
        gergi April 6 2016 09: 36
        +8
        Turn to Ulyukaev? This Gaidar feeding man is unlikely to help.
      3. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel April 6 2016 09: 57
        +2
        over-think themselves.
        Because the laws are really cool for twisting, so that later you do not fall under any article of the Criminal Code
        ... hell, again Amer’s footcloth hangs, but how much can one mock the Orthodox!
      4. demo
        demo April 6 2016 09: 59
        0
        Not so simple.
        At least for us.

        If the vehicle has its owner, then using it for its intended purpose or not is a criminal offense.
        By the way, even its storage is the concealment of the wanted person.

        If you do not take into account "Casus Bella", then it is easier to drive a couple of dozen craftsmen from those who are serving time for interrupting numbers, and the problem will be solved in a couple of months.
        You can sell.

        Well, our Supreme will not do that.
        Partners, damn it, however.
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    4. Michael67
      Michael67 April 6 2016 08: 57
      +5
      This is because the bureaucracy is inert and not interested in change (if that did not happen). They need to be kicked more often in order to work, and not get paid.
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 April 6 2016 09: 26
        +7
        Quote: Michael67
        This is because the bureaucracy is inert and not interested in change (if that did not happen). They need to be kicked more often in order to work, and not get paid.

        Actually, everything that is spinning and spinning in the state today is organized by the same bureaucrats. And they work within the legal framework that they did not ask him about. And the responsibility indicated is quite serious. Would you personally risk giving permission to use another person’s transport for public needs if the court could award you disqualification and deprivation of the right to hold such posts for some time? I mean that officials and bureaucrats are the same people as everyone else, just as much care for the country and order as you. They are only personally responsible for incorrect decisions. Among them, crooks are single creatures, unfortunately, found today. And it is not a fact that you, having found yourself in a similar position, will act more honestly. We are all of the same blood, of the same upbringing, from the same educational institutions (in our vast majority). Do not shoot the pianist, he plays as best he can.
        1. your1970
          your1970 April 6 2016 09: 58
          -1
          You plus !!!
          At VO, people like to throw up their babies' tantrums, while not understanding the issue at all. This is especially true for officials: "complaints, bureaucrats, they crushed them, corrupt officials ..." - again without considering the question ..
          In the case of nationalization, ONLY the property of PRIVATE persons can be nationalized, and not state (army = state, even such as a country 404). You can use foreign military equipment (any !!) only on the basis of military agreements or if its use is expressly prescribed (RF + Syria ) .In this situation, it, and even declared wanted by the country 404, is NOT applicable. It is also impossible to transfer back (and the fact that they are not even ghouls) - the military cooperation on the part of Ukraine has been stopped. Therefore, the equipment cannot be used and will have to be protected. So...
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel April 6 2016 10: 00
          +2
          I myself work in this area. +
        3. demo
          demo April 6 2016 10: 12
          +9
          In general, the property located on your territory of unauthorized citizens, legal entities and public organizations, as well as property belonging to a foreign state, should be transferred according to the inventory.
          If the property has been abandoned, then it can be done after a short period of time, after the custodian of the property has accepted all the methods for tracing the owner, by decision here to realize or dispose of it.
          Those. The Government of the Republic of Crimea begins the process of tracing property owners.
          Finds.
          Offers to pay the cost of storage.
          if the owner does not have the funds, then the Government submits an application to the court to make a decision on the sale of property from the auction.
          The funds received are transferred to the owner minus the costs of storage and legal costs.

          Well, since Ukraine has no money, and no mind, they will be silent in a rag.
          For, in general, someone should be responsible for the fact that the entrusted military property was abandoned in the "occupied territory"? And it ended up in the hands of a potential aggressor.
          Under wartime laws and for less, a tribunal was also provided for against the wall.

          From this, such a show could be minimized.
          Real jam.
          Ukrainians would have another Maidan would be muddied after that.
          With lustration of generals and admirals.
          1. your1970
            your1970 April 6 2016 10: 44
            0
            The military property of the 404 country is filed by PUT, and this greatly complicates the matter. That's the whole problem ...
          2. Marconi41
            Marconi41 April 6 2016 14: 51
            +1
            Quote: demo
            Well, since Ukraine has no money,

            Here you are probably mistaken. For Ukraine, this equipment was, in principle, lost, but if it is offered to pay for storage services and return, they will agree and pay. This price is unlikely to exceed the price of even used equipment. Then after payment it will be necessary to return this technique. Does Donbass need this?
      2. gergi
        gergi April 6 2016 09: 38
        -1
        Do you think they live on a salary? Does anyone else think so?
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel April 6 2016 10: 01
          +1
          I don’t live like that, and therefore I don’t think. To you -
          1. gergi
            gergi April 6 2016 10: 16
            -1
            Well, of course. Who would doubt that! For one salary! Didn’t they vibrate at all? Sir, how can you! Well, perhaps a little, even ashamed to say. You will tell the prosecutor about your integrity, but I don’t live in a vacuum, I know why and why.
            1. your1970
              your1970 April 6 2016 10: 41
              +2
              Do not believe it: I personally know a dozen judges and I know about everyone that they DO NOT TAKE AT ALL! I know personally several senior police officers DO NOT TAKE! A civil servant myself, last year I’ve only 254 thousands of incomes, I don’t take any notes on this .. From my own experience I know for sure that when they shout that they are extorting, in 90% of cases they either want something illegal, or a complete mess and a mess in the documents ...
              1. gergi
                gergi April 6 2016 10: 46
                -1
                And I know those who take it. Let's change names? Suddenly I will need the incorruptible, but you are corrupt? When they don’t give me, I don’t take it either. We have to work a lot, so that everything is enough, and not from 8 to 17 with a lunch break.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 April 6 2016 11: 19
                  +1
                  If you know the names of those who take it, why are you better than them? Why don’t you write, don’t hand them over? Screaming easy, do something .. Or do you think that they take it, without proof?
                  And when GIVE-take?
                  1. gergi
                    gergi April 6 2016 11: 39
                    -1
                    I am not a functionary, I do not function, I do not imitate violent activity. I work for myself, my family, and homeland in the end, through taxes. They don’t give me, I take it myself. I do not depend on the givers. Free me. You can not understand.
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 April 6 2016 12: 50
                      0
                      If it’s not a secret, do you work? Do you take it yourself, explain how? IP? Or a worker from the factory? Apparently, did the officials offend you through this? Have you tried to write complaints? Or once? Free from anything from the employer, officials, state?
                      I DO NOT imitate violent activity - as part of the civil service reduction, they added another 2 district for land control, believe me - NEVER to imitate ..
                      ZY All that is written and written under the fence of the person being checked, we wait until he comes (and he does not go repeat ), land capture-7.1 Administrative Code of the Russian Federation
                      ZY I would love to write the names of those people about whom I wrote above-worthy people, but 1) they would need their consent (incorrectly without this) -and having heard why they will rest (I know them), 2) you don’t believe in my honest word about the fact that these very people are DECENT ...
                      1. gergi
                        gergi April 6 2016 16: 09
                        -1
                        I am many years old, not a naive boy. I have known about the existence of decent people for a long time, I know many of them, among them there are my friends. Write HERE your biography, publish personal data, give someone’s names? Are you seriously? To complain? The word is not good. No, complain, this is not for me. For a long time I do not believe in the honest word of strangers and unfamiliar people. To earn trust, honesty is not enough. In order not to be disappointed, one must not be charmed. The topic of continuation will not be. My regards.
                      2. gergi
                        gergi April 6 2016 16: 28
                        0
                        A small addition. It’s impossible to offend me, you can upset me.
                      3. your1970
                        your1970 April 6 2016 18: 28
                        0
                        this is the difference - prove that honest people can only be a word, there are a lot of ways to prove that corrupt officials, but there is one new thing, you do not want to complain and do not want to fight them. And other reliable methods, except for the statement with the words "Forks a bribe ..", have not yet been invented, and it does not always work (this is to the question of charm) ...
                        It is easy to shout "Crooks, Corruptmen !!!" - to fight is much more difficult and dangerous ...
                        ZY "Let's change names?" you wrote, then abruptly went to the side "call someone's name?"
                      4. gergi
                        gergi April 6 2016 20: 30
                        0
                        There are questions that obviously do not need an answer.
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  2. demo
    demo April 6 2016 10: 02
    +1
    This is because the bureaucracy is inert and not interested in change (if something did not happen).

    Yah?
    It’s also quick when an event in the form of an envelope occurs.
    But "if only what" - it happens to you and me.
  • tol100v
    tol100v April 6 2016 09: 05
    +1
    Quote: avvg
    It was necessary to nationalize them too.

    The bureaucracy of officials is ineradicable! And the question is not worth a damn. It is decided by a strong-willed decision in a minute!
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel April 6 2016 10: 03
      +3
      Before a strong-willed decision, read the Criminal Code, Federal laws, various decrees, etc., and then make decisions. I am sure your optimism will diminish.
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander April 6 2016 09: 13
    +8
    Quote: avvg
    It was necessary to nationalize them too.


    I think so. DO NOT recognize ANY property of Ukraine on the territory of Crimea, no real estate, no equipment, NOTHING. If only to admit at least something, claims will go like an avalanche. Crimea HAD the right to the property of Ukraine, as part of it, i.e. he had his share in nuclear power plants and Yuzhmash, etc. We need a "zero" option - Crimea does not claim its share of Ruin, Ruin is in Crimea. What was in the Crimea at the time of entry into Russia, then Russian.
    And Aksyonov is right — not his level, but the State.
    1. demo
      demo April 6 2016 10: 20
      +1
      Movable property of the Armed Forces of any country belongs to the state.
      Yes, and immovable as well.
      If the latter cannot be moved, then the former is even very possible.
      The Autonomous Republic of Crimea, being part of Ukraine, is not a member of a federation or confederation.
      Ukraine is a unitary state.
      Those. when leaving Ukraine, Crimea can consider its own only that which was not related to strictly state bodies, which is the Ministry of Defense.
      And so on.
      That is why the property is worth and nothing happens to him.
      It should become "abandoned" over time.
      1. your1970
        your1970 April 6 2016 11: 12
        0
        It's nice to deal with knowledgeable people, not tantrums ..
      2. Aleksander
        Aleksander April 6 2016 12: 45
        +1
        Quote: demo
        Ukraine is a unitary state. Those. when leaving Ukraine, Crimea can consider its own only that which was not related to strictly state bodies, which is the Ministry of Defense.


        Crimea WAS part state Ukraine. Came out of it and has the right to to your share state property of this state, including the army, its property, etc.
        Divorce is the same principle. Or should Crimea go naked? According to your logic, I had no right to leave at all, but no ....
  • Sly
    Sly April 6 2016 09: 42
    +3
    Transfer equipment to the territory of Ukraine in Donetsk and Lugansk regions
  • Berg berg
    Berg berg April 6 2016 12: 25
    +3
    It was necessary to give it "as if to Ukraine!" - that is, to officially transfer it to New Russia!
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 April 6 2016 14: 53
      +1
      Quote: Berg Berg
      It was necessary to give it "as if to Ukraine!" - that is, to officially transfer it to New Russia!

      Interesting offer! Very sensible, because Donbass is still really Ukraine.
  • hartlend
    hartlend April 6 2016 08: 53
    +8
    Here is a living example of how the so-called democracy works. We have adopted laws for ourselves. Officials do not want to make decisions and there is nobody to ask, everything is in accordance with the law.
    1. Naum
      Naum April 6 2016 09: 01
      +1
      This bureaucracy "works". The more they say "nizzza!", The more reasons to issue the same permission. Selflessly, of course. All this, at first glance, idiocy has a very real mercantile ground. Whoever prohibits, he also "permits". This concerns, alas, our whole life ...
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother April 6 2016 09: 48
      +2
      Quote: hartlend
      Here is a living example of how the so-called democracy works. We have adopted laws for ourselves.

      I see a living example of a universal comment.
      The logic is simple: if the legislation does not allow something to be done, then it is necessary to write "officials adopted laws for themselves - it is impossible for people to live", if any moment is not regulated by legislation and everyone does as they please, then it is necessary to write "officials do not want to adopt laws they don't give a damn about people. "

      In, almost a paragraph for the training manual wrote. laughing
  • Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 April 6 2016 08: 53
    +4
    What technology will be idle and rust should be used.
    1. lukke
      lukke April 6 2016 10: 03
      +1
      but before that, we must offer Ukraine to pick it up with official notifications, but only after paying the costs for
      It costs so much equipment, we protect, we bear the costs, "
      But the costs are enormous) and believe me, Ukraine does not have enough money even for transportation. After observing these formalities, by the decision of the court of the city of Bakhchisaray, everything will be transferred to municipal use and democracy will triumph!
      If this option does not fit - then let them give it to Chechen Airlines - that will be the case for small inconsistencies of numbers in the vehicle passport, as in Dagestan, etc. (joke)
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  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 6 2016 08: 55
    +8
    A political decision is required, for which no one wants to take responsibility ...
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan April 6 2016 08: 56
    +2
    What kind of motor vehicle is it so wonderful that it is so bad without it? Yes, even after hahlov sad ... I would cleanly disdain negative ...Though what ... After the priest with the censer conducts a rite of removal of spoilage over him or something else is needed there, you can, in principle, use it.
    1. avt
      avt April 6 2016 09: 28
      +3
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      What kind of motor vehicle is it so wonderful that it is so bad without it?

      It doesn’t happen anymore, it’s gratuitous, you don’t have to buy it from the factory and pay a rent for use - you play pranks and ride, but you have to arrange tenders for purchases and give money to the side. It's like finding a hundred rubles on the street.
      Quote: Bureaucrat
      To set a deadline for Ukraine to withdraw if it is not removed to recognize ownerless and nationalize.

      wassat They themselves understood what they wrote!? They will take away with a whistle at those losses of vehicles and their shortage at the AFUK !!!
    2. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN April 6 2016 10: 41
      +4
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      .I would cleanly disdain

      Disdain 2,5 thousand pieces of equipment? Yes, you are probably kidding? It should work. Until the resource is completely worn out. And then we'll figure it out. If we fight, the question will disappear by itself. If "friends" let them take away by themselves, what will remain of them.
      And in general, all conversations with them after the return of debts to Russia.
  • Bureaucrat
    Bureaucrat April 6 2016 08: 56
    +7
    To set a deadline for Ukraine to withdraw if it is not removed to recognize ownerless and nationalize.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v April 6 2016 09: 07
      +6
      Quote: Bureaucrat
      To set a deadline for Ukraine to withdraw if it is not removed to recognize ownerless and nationalize.

      Deadline 2 years ago!
  • siberalt
    siberalt April 6 2016 08: 56
    0
    Write off this technique for scrap and not create another reason for the eruption of another uroblevotina.
    1. Galich Kos
      Galich Kos April 6 2016 09: 07
      +3
      Quote: siberalt
      Write off this technique for scrap and not create another reason for the eruption of another uroblevotina.


      It is necessary to proceed from the interests of the case, and not be afraid of the cries of ukroblevotiny. Why write off normal, unkilled URALS, KAMAZ, ZIL. Transfer free of charge for the needs of state. organizations (public utilities, electric deputies), for the needs of farmers, etc. Fig good to scatter?
      Tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and other things that have gone out of fashion in the Russian army are jerked off and push somewhere to Africa ...
      1. Hyppopotut
        Hyppopotut April 6 2016 09: 17
        +6
        Interestingly, the Russian Federation billed Ukropia for the disrupted supply of water, electricity, food to the Crimea?
        If yes, then the rejection of this property can be counted (after all, there is nothing to pay with). And so "even a tuft of wool from a black sheep"
    2. tol100v
      tol100v April 6 2016 09: 10
      +3
      Quote: siberalt
      Write off this technique for scrap and not create another reason for the eruption of another uroblevotina.

      Why write off? Let it work. And there, at least, they will choke with their dagger!
  • Rav075
    Rav075 April 6 2016 08: 59
    +4
    We all somehow through w ..., sad to hear. recourse
  • bolgove
    bolgove April 6 2016 09: 00
    +3
    I work for managers, and there is nothing surprising from experience. The integration process is new for officials, before we somehow did not add territories over the past 25 years. There are 2 types of people. The first is to fear that they steal if allowed, the second think how to steal. They will find a solution - then they will allow it)))
  • tyler2
    tyler2 April 6 2016 09: 02
    +4
    There is nothing out of the problem! You must either give it to the former owners, or use it yourself, yesterday. Idiocy.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher April 6 2016 09: 45
      +2
      Quote: tyler2
      There is nothing out of the problem! You must either give it to the former owners, or use it yourself, yesterday. Idiocy.

      You can not give. Ukraine is not building anything, the scale of economic activity is striving for zero. For some reason, the costs of the war are growing. All this transport will carry shells that will fly on the heads of civilians. Ukraine has no other use for transport now.
      For peaceful purposes ... But ...
  • semuil
    semuil April 6 2016 09: 03
    +2
    We need to talk with Putin and not with the ministers. Only he can give a magic kick to them and move things off the ground.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 6 2016 09: 26
      +4
      Quote: semuil
      We need to talk with Putin

      and without Putin in any way? He has to deal with xoxlyak scrap.
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto April 6 2016 09: 04
    +8
    Well, in my opinion, somehow: laughing

    Whose cow are we with? State. We rented it. Hence, the calf is state.
    - Ball, Ball, shut up, please. The state cow, and all that it gives is milk, or calves, this is ours. Here you are, Uncle Fedor, judge for yourself, if we rent a refrigerator, whose is it?
    - State.
    - That's right, Uncle Fedor. And the frost that he produces?
    - Frost is ours. We take it for the frost and take it.
    “But did we take one cow?” And now we got two.
    - Ball, on receipt of the redhead cow alone.
    - Yes.
    - We took her one on receipt. We will hand over one, so as not to violate reporting.
    - Oh, I don’t understand what you are arguing about. Well, Matroskin, was going to buy a cow for good. So take it for good. With a calf.
  • S_Baykala
    S_Baykala April 6 2016 09: 06
    +1
    Whose production is interesting? Ukraine? I doubt it very much. And who is the legal successor of the USSR officially? Russia. But .. There will be a lot of stinks and squeals, and they will try to rake something of ours in response. So they sit in the government scratching their turnips: is the game worth the candle?
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 6 2016 09: 32
      +1
      Quote: S_Baykala
      Whose production is interesting?

      what does "whose production" and assignees have to do with it? Some kind of game.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 6 2016 09: 15
    +1
    allowed to use the equipment remaining on the peninsula after the departure of the Ukrainian military

    I don’t understand, what’s the problem? Or vetoed for some unclear purpose? For some reason, it seemed to me that everything in Crimea belongs to this peninsula, that is, Russia.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 6 2016 09: 52
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I don’t understand, what’s the problem?

      the problem is, apparently, that in July 2014, the xoxlam ceased to give equipment. Our Foreign Ministry related this to events in the SE:
      the Russian side decided to suspend the transfer to official Kiev of weapons, military equipment and materiel of the armed forces of Ukraine from the territory of the Republic of Crimea of ​​the Russian Federation

      The Hohls, in turn, argue that this is the initiative of their SNB.
      That is, the question is in limbo. There can be no talk of any kind of nationalization while negotiations on the transfer are frozen.
      IMHO.
  • askort154
    askort154 April 6 2016 09: 17
    +4
    All our bureaucratic bureaucratic machinism begins to move only after the presidential kick. They themselves can move, if there is no personal interest, they cannot or do not want to. This has become the norm. The ministers, and the Prime Minister, do not really like, of their own free will, trips outside the Moscow Ring Road. We need repairs in our apartment, but without any emergency.
  • volodya
    volodya April 6 2016 09: 18
    +4
    Quote: Michael67
    This is because the bureaucracy is inert and not interested in change (if that did not happen). They need to be kicked more often in order to work, and not get paid.

    As Lukashenko said, they need to be peregraded more often!
  • Stepanov
    Stepanov April 6 2016 09: 27
    +3
    A lot of incomprehensible things are going on in Crimea. Give land to Ukrainian "oligarchs" and officials. These are those who kill the residents of Lugansk, Donetsk, and it is not clear what is going on in the rest of Ukraine. Russia bears direct losses and is far from a penny, and "Russian officials" support the interests of essentially enemies. You can't touch that, that. This is not under European law. I personally do not care about their laws. We live in our own country, and according to our own laws. Who wants to live with them let them go there. Otherwise, we steal here, live there and indicate that someone can or cannot take the stolen goods. And all sorts of democratic verbiage immediately begin to argue about what is possible and what is not.
  • gozmosZh
    gozmosZh April 6 2016 09: 32
    +1
    Quote: Aleksander
    What was in Crimea at the time of entry into Russia is Russian.

    But what about the Crimean Scythian treasure?
  • Mercenary
    Mercenary April 6 2016 09: 35
    0
    Everything needs to be drowned for the joy of the drivers! It's cheaper and easier, otherwise different vessels and yachts will "float" all over Russia! (Don't you know our officials?)
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 6 2016 10: 35
      0
      Quote: Mercenary
      All you need to sink to the delight of drivers!

      In the Dnieper near Kiev ... laughing
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 6 2016 09: 41
    +2
    The paradoxes of the bureaucracy know no boundaries. Crimea is declared the territory of the Russian Federation, whose land is the territory of Crimea whose? As an option: Real estate and movable property for auction, we lift the starting price to heaven - there is no buyer - we declare the auction not held, we nationalize the property.
  • V.ic
    V.ic April 6 2016 09: 44
    +1
    Take it unequivocally. With pa.shiva sheep at least six shreds!
  • Abbra
    Abbra April 6 2016 10: 08
    +2
    If Crimea is ours, then everything in it is ours too. I think so...
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 6 2016 10: 27
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      Quote: Abbra
      If Crimea is ours, then everything in it is ours too. I think so...

      Comrade, the President of the Russian Federation instructed Shoigu to transfer military equipment to the hots. The decision has not been canceled, only suspended. What is the problem? In the content of the technology? Give me some money?
  • ayuric
    ayuric April 6 2016 10: 37
    0
    Everything is in the furnace, and at UVZ - new trunks are to be cast, and let the Ukrainians look further, they still do not need it.
  • biserino
    biserino April 6 2016 10: 57
    +1
    Must be paid to owners at the market price by deducting the value of the collateral as a parking lot for two years.
  • Gunther
    Gunther April 6 2016 11: 54
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    Quote: your1970
    In this situation
    her, and even wanted
    country404- DO NOT use

    There is always a way out, another thing is that there is no desire)
    Equipment for storage, which requires expenses, to reimburse expenses, equipment (transport) can be auctioned off - everyone will be happy.
  • Manul
    Manul April 6 2016 12: 37
    +1
    So for the debts to declare the property of the Russian Federation and the deal with the end. And then our property over the hill regularly arrested.
  • vell.65
    vell.65 April 6 2016 12: 57
    +2
    Fence this place and write that it’s a parking lot. After some time for fines arrears, you can legally register it as property and use it for your health. hi
  • ARES623
    ARES623 April 6 2016 17: 44
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    Quote: gergi
    Well, of course. Who would doubt that! For one salary! Didn’t they vibrate at all? Sir, how can you! Well, perhaps a little, even ashamed to say. You will tell the prosecutor about your integrity, but I don’t live in a vacuum, I know why and why.

    Do you have practical experience? Or are you driving the wind? Here are miracles, everyone knows everything, everyone can do everything, but apart from the Kalashnikov, it is rare that it works, and they are always ready to pay for any reason, so as not to stand in line, to answer for what they have done. You know what and for CHO, it means he paid or took, in any case he multiplied corruption. With such knowledge, one must sit and be silent. You will say, you heard from a neighbor - they were lying, they did it, and personally.
    Say: "They do not give me, I take it myself. I do not depend on the giver. I am free. You will not understand." It's familiar. Somehow, there were cases, such "taking" handcuffed shoes, those who remained alive. Free? No, dull.
    “When they don’t give me, I don’t take it either” - You are not consistent, but, obviously, you take when you give. Some kind of fountain of emotions about nothing. And like a business mow. Hmmm ....
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 7 2016 08: 33
    0
    It’s high time that Ulyulyukin kicked him in the ass and put in his place a normal sensible man like Shoigu, who would not look into DAM's mouth, but would think about the Russian economy. Then things will go faster with Crimea.
  • Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 April 8 2016 19: 58
    0
    This technique must be expropriated as the strongest and the question should be closed. And the technique itself should be used exclusively for peaceful purposes. In the national economy, so to speak.