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Viktor Zolotov appointed director of the Federal Service of the National Guard troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation

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Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered the introduction of such agencies as the Federal Service for the Control of Drug Trafficking (Federal Drug Control Service) and the Federal Migration Service (FMS) into the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. In addition, the Russian president announced that the Federal Service of the National Guard is being created within the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, which will focus on the fight against terrorism and organized crime.


The National Guard, according to the press service of the President of the Russian Federation, will take over the functions of the riot police, SOBR and other security forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. In other words, these security agencies will become part of a new formation within the Ministry of Internal Affairs - the National Guard.

Viktor Zolotov appointed director of the Federal Service of the National Guard troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation


The commander-in-chief of the internal troops of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Viktor Zolotov, who now (since his appointment to the new post) has already ceased to be commander-in-chief of the Interior Troops of the Russian Federation, will lead the National Guard of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia.

Vladimir Putin:
Decisions have been made: we are creating a new federal executive authority on the basis of the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - we are creating a national guard, which will be engaged in the fight against terrorism, the fight against organized crime, in close contact with the Ministry of Internal Affairs, will continue to perform those functions performed by the riot police and so on.


Of presidential decree:
To appoint Viktor Viktorovich Zolotov as director of the Federal Service of Forces of the National Guard of the Russian Federation - Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard of the Russian Federation, relieving him of his post.


Creating an effective law enforcement agency is a big plus, but is it not possible that in connection with certain events and armed formations in Ukraine, the term “National Guard” itself will be perceived in Russia with a certain caution?
Photos used:
http://www.kremlin.ru
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  1. Amulet
    Amulet April 5 2016 20: 14
    +31
    What say gentlemen? Spoiled Ukraine the word National Guard?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 5 2016 20: 17
      +6
      "which were carried out by the OMON, SOBR units and so on."
      Exactly. And so on already. Few?
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 April 5 2016 20: 53
        +6
        Of the National Guard of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation .And this applause I applaud standing !!! Minus to ...
        From the first seconds it was necessary to create Russia after the USSR NATIONAL GUARD to create !!!
        Riot police and SOBR is a division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (bandits smash !!). And the national guard for the prompt resolution of social threats within the country. And do not scream about this!
        1. atalef
          atalef April 5 2016 20: 55
          +4
          Quote: Observer2014
          And the national guard for the prompt resolution of social threats within the country.

          Clearly.
          Type of demonstration against Plato to disperse?
          1. Mitek
            Mitek April 5 2016 21: 10
            +16
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Observer2014
            And the national guard for the prompt resolution of social threats within the country.

            Clearly.
            Type of demonstration against Plato to disperse?

            Do not smack nonsense. Those who can be instructed to disperse the demonstrations against Plato so above the roof. Most likely some kind of undercover movement ..
            1. atalef
              atalef April 5 2016 21: 14
              -9
              Quote: Mitek
              Do not smack nonsense

              She squeals a lot. laughing
              Quote: Mitek
              Who needs to disperse the demonstrations against Plato so above the roof.

              Well, right, and Nat. guard, personally subordinate to the president with his personal bodyguard, headed why?
              Does Great have an 86% rating?
              So why the heck ass hormone and reorganization?
              1. Sarmat149
                Sarmat149 April 5 2016 22: 13
                +11
                Che Jews do not like it, it does not concern you. It is necessary to indicate your opinion.
                1. Boos
                  Boos April 6 2016 09: 12
                  +2
                  Sound thoughts are interesting to me from the lips of any nation ...
                  Quote: Sarmat149
                  Che Jews do not like it, it does not concern you. It is necessary to indicate your opinion.
              2. hobot
                hobot April 6 2016 04: 31
                -6
                What, judging by the sharp reaction, did it become scary? Point bench press.
              3. woron333444
                woron333444 April 6 2016 05: 46
                +1
                You are dispersing the Arabs with the help of the army.
              4. derik1970
                derik1970 April 6 2016 07: 24
                +7
                good I'm also wondering why harmonize the whole orchestra ... it looks like a pocket army for personal interests ... something is clearly brewing in the country ... Perhaps it is supposed to delimit the ruling clans and then in the event of unrest the army will not always obey the existing president or the same VV will leave under someone's command ... Remember the coup in the USSR in 1993, the army and the military during the coup and the execution of the "white house" in Moscow, they stupidly followed the new, in principle, illegal government, although in theory they had to tear the shoulder straps and scatter like this as the USSR took the oath ... So the president will probably need support in some cases. And maybe I'm also confusing, but did the SS troops not create the same way in Germany for the personal subordination of the party elite ... Well, first, the National Guard will drive the demonstrators, and then who knows ... I would like that I was wrong in their findings. But you need to be ready for anything, no one is going to build socialism ... Aggressive minus marketers are on the payroll? However, the bulk of the people are infantile and live according to the principle of my hut on the edge, therefore they do not climb into active discussions, they get drunk and get drunk. hi
              5. Boos
                Boos April 6 2016 09: 11
                +1
                Caesar desired the Praetorians ... He wants them to mount a galley ...)))
          2. dark_65
            dark_65 April 5 2016 21: 55
            +7
            even so ... study first the trucker’s rate of return not in the movie
            1. Homo
              Homo April 6 2016 00: 17
              +1
              Quote: dark_65
              even so ... study first the trucker’s rate of return not in the movie

              And if you look at those who are in the forefront, next to truckers. Everything immediately falls into place.
          3. vovanpain
            vovanpain April 5 2016 23: 23
            +10
            Quote: atalef
            Clearly.
            Type of demonstration against Plato to disperse?

            Atalef, what the hell did you get into truckers? request And have you already gathered for the demonstration?
            Quote: atalef
            Well, right, and Nat. guard, personally subordinate to the president with his personal bodyguard, headed why?

            Then what would you ask from Israel. repeat
            Quote: atalef
            Does Great have an 86% rating?
            So why the heck ass hormone and reorganization?

            Oh, excuse the darkest one, he forgot to consult with you. The priest has a hormone in his body, and his accordion is like a goat’s fifth leg. yes
          4. Homo
            Homo April 6 2016 00: 11
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Clearly.
            Type of demonstration against Plato to disperse?

            To disperse 250 people, the National Guard is not needed.
            1. Boos
              Boos April 6 2016 19: 06
              -1
              People are different, Primorskys, but there were not 250 of them, they were afraid to "disperse", no one will die for thieves.
              Quote: Homo
              Quote: atalef
              Clearly.
              Type of demonstration against Plato to disperse?

              To disperse 250 people, the National Guard is not needed.
          5. g1v2
            g1v2 April 6 2016 00: 15
            +13
            These demonstrations are 80-90 percent on TV - there’s nothing to disperse. lol Well, as for the new structure, I have long believed that riot police and sobr should be combined with the military commanders and improve their military training. How many was the death of riot police by stupidity. In my opinion, a clear lack of discipline and army training units. Again, practicing street fighting tactics just in case will not hurt. Yes, although I don’t like the name too much, the combination of riot police and sobr from centuries is a useful thing in my opinion. soldier
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            2. hohkn
              hohkn April 6 2016 08: 23
              +2
              Quote: g1v2
              I have long believed that riot police and sobr should be combined with the military commanders and improve their military training

              In normal units, and so it is raised on a regular basis.
              Quote: g1v2
              How many was the death of riot police by stupidity. In my opinion, a clear lack of discipline and army training units.

              You don't need to believe all media statements without exception. A particular example: in 2000, not far from Zhani-Vedeno, according to media reports, "36 Perm riot policemen were killed." The event did take place, but how many OMON officers were there really? It was a consolidated detachment recruited from police departments throughout the region. Naturally, there can be no speech about coherence of actions, or about uniform teaching. But this is already a "jamb" of leadership and command.
              Quote: g1v2
              combining riot police and sobr with vv - a useful thing in my opinion

              Already passed ... The unification of OMON and SOBR in the Center for Special Operations was recognized as inappropriate. The specifics even in these related units are completely different.
              But nothing will change from our reasoning, so we will carry out decrees and orders.
          6. Combitor
            Combitor April 6 2016 02: 55
            -1
            At least against "Plato", given that the liberalism of the Russian spill on "Platon" earns points for itself. Or do you want the anti-Platonic meetings to turn into a new "swamp" meeting?
          7. VP
            VP April 6 2016 06: 41
            -1
            Jews to protect from pogroms
        2. owl
          owl April 5 2016 21: 14
          +13
          Quote: Observer2014
          for the operational solution of social threats within the country

          I would venture to correct you: "for a prompt decision of the consequences social problems and therefore for the protection of social criminals " laughing
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS April 5 2016 22: 09
            +19
            mdyayaya ... that something is not right in this kingdom. what
            FSB, FSO, NG, VV, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of Emergency Situations (also armed) - isn't it too much against social threats? Or do they already understand the consequences of the calculations in the elections to the State Duma? Or maybe they understand the consequences of the laws adopted "for the people"? Or they no longer trust the police, but suddenly cops have leaked there. In general, they are preparing.
            And the names themselves, as if I did not like it since childhood, "policemen", "national guards". sad
            And what is this national guard in a multinational country? I give a free hint nationwide, but this is, apparently, with another king. wink
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka April 5 2016 22: 35
              +10
              And the names themselves, as if I did not like it since childhood, "policemen", "national guards".
              And what is this national guard in a multinational country? I give a free hint nationwide, but this is, apparently, with another king.


              the first desire is to give you a minus for voicing my thoughts! and then I thought - are they mine? rather, our people ... we don’t have too many people and you won’t be fooled by all kinds of tricks with the names ... we remember the verbiage with the national treasure - Gazprom, the people are very clearly discredited and annoyed, but right now nothing, people take it easy .. . hi
            2. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 April 6 2016 02: 51
              +1
              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              And what is this national guard in a multinational country?

              Chechens Kadyrov.
        3. lukke
          lukke April 5 2016 21: 32
          +14
          Riot police and SOBR is a division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (bandits smash !!). And the national guard for the prompt resolution of social threats within the country. And do not scream about this!
          squeals of pigs in a stable when they are driven by drene for slaughter
          OMON and SOBR are just "catching up" from operas and other employees from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, for a highly specialized task - capture, etc. They do not carry out any intellectual and investigative work by themselves (do not confuse with the former RUOP).
          Please list the social threats that the national guard (and the riot police, SOBR could not solve) could I successfully decide?
          Here is the combination of the FMS and drug control under the common roof of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - this is a normal well-forgotten old decision, it already was - like the border troops in the KGB system of the USSR. And here is another seat of the security forces at the level of federal ministers - our president is strengthening)
        4. weksha50
          weksha50 April 5 2016 21: 32
          +20
          Quote: Observer2014
          Riot police and SOBR is a division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (bandits smash !!). And the national guard for the prompt resolution of social threats within the country.And do not scream about it!


          Hmm ... Why scream?
          It is necessary to carefully read what the National Guard is being created for ... Yes, to solve the same problems that the riot police and the Special Operations Brigade had solved before ...

          And for the "prompt solution of social threats within the country" we have both in the USSR and in Russia there have always been internal troops (and not just to protect zones) ...

          They renamed the police to the police ... OMON and SOBR - to NG ... The commander of NG was given the status of a federal minister ... This is strange - on the one hand, he is subordinate to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and on the other - he himself is like a minister ...

          For me - if only there would be benefit ... And if there would be no benefit, then all these reforms - well, if not cut, it’s just a waste of money, which is already lacking ...

          PS But in general, I have a suspicion that NG will be imprisoned specifically to suppress various, so to speak, social unrest ... But again, I repeat: before BB served for this purpose ...
          1. nachtRitter
            nachtRitter April 5 2016 21: 37
            +6
            Quote: weksha50
            This is strange - on the one hand, he is subordinate to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and on the other, he himself is, as it were, a minister ...

            Peskov commented - direct submission to the President.
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 April 5 2016 21: 40
            +2
            According to the Decree, he does not submit to the Ministry of Internal Affairs now.
            1. hohkn
              hohkn April 6 2016 08: 32
              +2
              Quote: Sergej1972
              According to the Decree, he does not submit to the Ministry of Internal Affairs now.

              Nothing is clear there at all.
              9. To establish that:

              c) special units, special-purpose mobile units, the Special Purpose Center and aviation units referred to in subparagraphs “b” - “d” of paragraph 4 of this Decree are under the operational subordination of the Minister of the Interior of the Russian Federation and the respective heads of territorial bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Federation. The procedure for operational subordination is established by the Minister of the Interior of the Russian Federation in agreement with the director of the Federal Service of the National Guard of the Russian Federation - the Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard of the Russian Federation. Prior to the establishment of this procedure, aviation equipment of aviation units is used to transport employees and property of the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation by decision of the Minister of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation.
          3. dedusik
            dedusik April 5 2016 21: 55
            +7
            So NG is the Internal Troops, only there they added OMON, SOBR and private security. In a word, one hell, only a side view.
          4. kot11180
            kot11180 April 5 2016 22: 21
            +2
            apparently the president is systematically building up his power in the country, gradually putting his people everywhere (for example, General Melikov - envoy to the North Caucasus Federal District, general Rogozhkin - in Siberia, etc.), I think this reorganization is in the same direction. The more power he has, the country is better. And the suppression of various, so to speak, social unrest is an unpleasant but necessary matter. Events in the world in recent years should finally teach everyone that these riots do not start on their own, that enemies always stand behind them.
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka April 5 2016 22: 56
              +7
              Events in the world in recent years should finally teach everyone that these riots do not start on their own, that enemies always stand behind them.

              yes, yes ... but where does the soil for unrest come from? who throws the grain? Is it not the case that those in power? the origins of all the unrest are mostly social, with a more or less normal social system, the people do not care deeply about politics, well, except to scratch and discuss the government with their tongue ... compare the mood of people 10 years ago and now. The feeling of insecurity, hopelessness and uncertainty in their future among most of the people. When a person loses support in life, he needs an enemy who is to blame for this and it is very easy to use him for his own purposes ... Now all citizens are thrown by the state to be torn apart by collectors, microfinance gangsters, banks, housing management companies. What is it - you can't decide ??? You don't need a lot of money for this! Just clean up the mess! But as always, everything is done through, as "dear Leonid Ilyich" said, "naked, jo ... Wow! .. Ah, the hard truth!" request
              1. kot11180
                kot11180 April 5 2016 23: 03
                -8
                That's the whole point - to put things in order. For this, the president must have full power, but now it does not exist, so he builds his power. And about the social origins of the unrest, so they, too, do not arise from scratch, they also have some forces behind. And the riots are a consequence, but if they are not suppressed it will be like in Ukraine.
                1. Yuyuka
                  Yuyuka April 5 2016 23: 21
                  +8
                  That's the whole point - to put things in order. For this, the president must have full power, but now it does not exist, so he builds his power. And about the social origins of the unrest, so they, too, do not arise from scratch, they also have some forces behind. And the riots are a consequence, but if they are not suppressed it will be like in Ukraine.

                  much more so! and he has a high rating - the people trust and support him, only in the economy over the past two years there have been plenty of missed opportunities! you probably misplaced the accents - I talked about how to forestall the growth of discontent, and you are already preparing for the riots! our people are not, he is fed up with the 90s, he understands that there will be no sense from all these liberals! But you can’t test it like that, but crush it ... there’s not enough troops, except that the goal is to destroy the majority of the people, the very people who now support and suffer ...
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                3. Nikolay K
                  Nikolay K April 5 2016 23: 27
                  +9
                  To do this, the president must have full power, but now it does not

                  Does Putin have little power? Name who offends our president. And tell us what in the current conditions Putin cannot do. Well, maybe fly to the moon. And return the oil for 100 dollars.
                  1. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 April 6 2016 03: 05
                    +5
                    Quote: Nikolai K
                    what Putin cannot do under current conditions. Well, maybe fly to the moon

                    What? A man who flies with Siberian Cranes can’t fly to the moon? Poor you are thinking about the president ....
              2. Dart2027
                Dart2027 April 5 2016 23: 17
                +5
                Quote: Yuyuka
                Well, yes, yes ... But where does the soil for the riots come from? who throws grain?

                Do you know where there is a people in which everyone is happy with everything? In computer games this happens, but in my life I doubt it.
                Quote: Yuyuka
                When a person loses support in life, he needs an enemy who is to blame for this and it is very easy to use for his own purposes

                If you recall who has always been the main contingent of the leading workers of all kinds of revolutions, then these are just not the poorest.
                1. Yuyuka
                  Yuyuka April 5 2016 23: 30
                  +4
                  Do you know where there is a people in which everyone is happy with everything? In computer games this happens, but in my life I doubt it

                  There are no ideal people like governments, I completely agree! Only dissatisfaction from despair is different in that when a person simply does not see a way out in life, he doesn’t care what happens to him later! And now we are on the verge of this disruption - just look at the news for a couple of days or talk with people who don’t have enough salaries to pay for a communal apartment and feed their family, or who call the bank or collectors. It is necessary to draw conclusions and take quick adequate measures, and in our country only banks support, and not production, ordinary people.
                  1. woron333444
                    woron333444 April 6 2016 06: 06
                    +3
                    I have a friend on the STO highway. So it stands idle because it cannot find locksmiths. Although the unemployed are full and the salaries of locksmiths are not weak.
              3. Jackson1954
                Jackson1954 April 6 2016 01: 07
                +3
                Who forces to take loans, use banks, housing department can also be sent if you want. Democracy damn it!
          5. fif21
            fif21 April 6 2016 07: 18
            0
            Quote: weksha50
            PS But in general, I have a suspicion that NG will be imprisoned specifically to suppress various, so to speak, social unrest ... But again, I repeat: before BB served for this purpose ...
            That's right, back to the old! Passport and visa service in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, drug control in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, "siloviki" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Interior Ministry - with a new name "National Guard" and with reassignment to the President of the Russian Federation. Saving budget funds-YES, strengthening the power of the President of the Russian Federation-YES, color revolutions-NO. Authoritarian regime? - not even a question. Russia will be "milked" by Russians. Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgan, past the box office. And what is the standard of living in Russia? As in the UAE or as in Nigeria? And I also have a question - at whose expense will the banquet be in Russia? At the expense of the poor or at the expense of the rich? what
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka April 6 2016 10: 39
              +1
              And I have a question - at whose expense will there be a banquet in Russia? At the expense of the poor or at the expense of the rich?

              I’ll answer, one person correctly noticed, I don’t remember where repeat -

              That's right, back to the old! Passport and visa service in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, drug control in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, "siloviki" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Internal Troops - with a new name "National Guard" and reassigned to the President of the Russian Federation. Saving budget funds-YES, strengthening the power of the President of the Russian Federation-YES, color revolutions-NO. Authoritarian regime? - not even a question. Russia will be "milked" by Russians.

              we all understand perfectly well, just some want to believe in the best ... and I would not want to be disappointed in the ultimate goals of all these transformations in the country. One thing can be said - in the foreseeable future we do not need to count on anyone, it’s easier to say that the strongest will survive, sometimes not the best ... hi

              pys-pys. from my ... unpublished ... "Hope dies last, along with those who hoped" wink
        5. dark_65
          dark_65 April 5 2016 21: 54
          0
          plus I put it. But you shouldn't pay attention to the "cardboard generals".
        6. nycsson
          nycsson April 5 2016 21: 58
          +13
          Quote: Observer2014
          And the national guard for the prompt resolution of social threats within the country.

          Yeah! fool In our country, those in power have one social threat - this is the people! Then they cut the solder slowly ..... wassat Previously, they fought with bandits, but now they will be with .........
          1. Kibalchish
            Kibalchish April 5 2016 22: 59
            +9
            Exactly. The National Guard is a punitive body that will shoot the people rebelled from poverty.
            1. kot11180
              kot11180 April 5 2016 23: 17
              +1
              Internal troops still have not shot anyone
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 April 5 2016 23: 24
                +6
                I get the impression that some just dream about it, and the fact that the riot police is doing their job competently and purely is especially angry. There are no heaps of corpses, nor crowds mutilated, nor just wounded - but how to call for revolution without sacred sacrifices?
              2. fif21
                fif21 April 6 2016 07: 36
                +2
                Quote: kot11180
                Internal troops still have not shot anyone
                laughing And at the "White House" Dzerzhinsky's division played hide and seek, and in hot spots they only fired from slingshots laughing And the sapper spades and rubber "democratizers" are they just sex toys? And there were no serious protests in Russia. They are preparing for them, but they will order and shoot! Ukraine was not ordered! And how did it end? A military coup.
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        8. free
          free April 5 2016 22: 10
          -1
          yes, but to call it another was
        9. Zlyden.Zlo
          Zlyden.Zlo April 5 2016 22: 12
          +4
          VV. Wasn’t it for these tasks?
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        11. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K April 5 2016 23: 18
          +6
          And the national guard for the prompt resolution of social threats within the country.

          I don't understand the name "internal troops" at all. What is this, troops for waging war inside the country? With whom to fight, I wonder, gathered, with their own citizens?
          The National Guard, of course, sounds much more harmonious than the internal troops or the guardsmen there, and the professionals in the person of OMON and SOBR will be added there. Apparently PR, but the authorities decided to play it safe again in case of unrest in the electorate.
        12. WERSTA.
          WERSTA. April 6 2016 03: 11
          +2
          You can change the names and organizational structure of any security organizations, but the essence is in the people who make up these organizations. The National Guard is created not from scratch, but from people who previously worked in bodies and whose shortcomings automatically transfer to a new body.
        13. trantor
          trantor April 6 2016 03: 50
          -4
          Quote: Observer2014
          Of the National Guard of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation .And this applause I applaud standing !!!

          National Guard - I applaud, but what is the "National Guard of the Ministry of Internal Affairs" - I don't understand ... What, "cop" (no offense) - is this already a nationality?

          NB Read carefully - this structure is not included in the Ministry of Internal Affairs smile
        14. saltickov.
          saltickov. April 6 2016 04: 43
          -1
          what internal threats we have, well, they’ll blow out on the swamp, and there will be enough riot police to disperse them. in short, an extra article is in the flow.
          1. woron333444
            woron333444 April 6 2016 06: 09
            +3
            There were internal troops, became NG, what are the new costs?
        15. Mihalich17
          Mihalich17 April 6 2016 09: 26
          0
          NAG - National Guard.
          NAGI - NATIONAL GUARDS.
          Naga (Skt. नाग nag - serpent) - serpentine mythical creatures in Hinduism and Buddhism. Depicted in the form of snakes with a human torso and a human head, sheltered from above by a fan of snake heads. They live in caves and ponds, on the ground, in the water or underground.
          The mythology of the "man-snake" has ancient roots. Nagas are depicted with the head of a man. Nag is a symbol of wisdom. There is a cult of the snake and related holidays. It is believed that the serpent-naga was a totem of one of the powerful ancient tribes, whose representatives were called nagas.
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy April 7 2016 00: 03
        0
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        "which were carried out by the OMON, SOBR units and so on."
        Exactly. And so on already. Few?

        Sorry, to blame, did not make out. What terrorism, drugs? Sawdust.
        "What the Bolsheviks have been talking about for a long time has finally come true! Hurray, comrades!"
        The speeches of AI Fursov and N. Starikov are embodied. A year or two on the structure, the selection of personnel and the cause! ..
    2. Finches
      Finches April 5 2016 20: 17
      +55
      I am not a decree for the Supreme, but I don’t like these changes ... The Guard for me represents a little different - the courage and valor shown in battles for the Motherland, and the National Guard - a militant rabble in the USA or now punitive in Ukraine! As still I can’t understand - why the heck to make the police out of the police - for whom and why ??? Anyway...

      Sometimes I don’t understand the Supreme .... I understood a little - I personally locked myself in - my own army .. but the name is jarring!
      1. ALEA IACTA EST
        ALEA IACTA EST April 5 2016 20: 20
        +8
        Do I alone have this phrase primarily associated with the French Revolution and Lafayette?
        1. Finches
          Finches April 5 2016 20: 22
          +3
          smile I had to think and remember, but the same is true!
          1. Pravdarm
            Pravdarm April 5 2016 20: 32
            +16
            Quote: Finches
            I am not a decree for the Supreme, but I don’t like these changes ... The Guard for me represents a little different - the courage and valor shown in battles for the Motherland, and the National Guard - a militant rabble in the USA or now punitive in Ukraine! As still I can’t understand - why the heck to make the police out of the police - for whom and why ??? Anyway...
            Sometimes I don’t understand the Supreme ....
            I think, after all, the guard sounds proudly! In the Army, the guardsman is higher in honor. According to the charter, even the appeal should be: "Comrade Guard Captain." (Both of my grandfathers are Guardsmen!)
            I don’t think I should be associated with Urs or the USA. They also have the concept of "Army". This does not mean that the Army needs to be renamed.

            Internal troops sounds gray and dull, like janitors of a patio!
            Those. In this case, I like it!

            PS: But the "police" (policemen - disgust, polarity, "YAITSILOP", who remembers "Kin-Dza-Dza", it is the reverse reading of the word "POLICE" Danelia took for "ETSILOP" a) - not Russian, alien, police-fascist for our people. Even young people have heard of this term.

            In our opinion, it’s good - POLICE, policeman, comrade policeman. Cops in the end! Dear ones.

            Gopodin - scum, fellow police officer - vile IMAGINO!
            1. Pravdarm
              Pravdarm April 5 2016 20: 52
              +3
              PS: I did not have time to correct, add:
              The only thing - "national" somehow bespontovenko.
              It would be possible, for example, the State or People’s or Public Guard. Yes, just - Russian.
              1. opus
                opus April 5 2016 21: 49
                +1
                Quote: Pravdarm
                Yes, simple - Russian

                already have
              2. Alexdark
                Alexdark April 5 2016 22: 00
                +1
                Federal
              3. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka April 5 2016 23: 09
                +2
                I think, after all, the guard sounds proudly! In the Army, the guardsman is higher in honor. According to the charter, even the appeal should be: "Comrade Guard Captain." (Both of my grandfathers are Guardsmen!)

                I agree that the guard, the guardsman - is very solemn and sublime! But! this title your grandfather deserved! And here? Why should they be Guards - Internal Troops? And why are decisions on renaming made without taking into account the meaning that is historically invested by the people or carries a second meaning! Something with the Russian language is straining ...

                That's about the sign "Guard"

                During the Second World War, the “Guard” badge was awarded in a festive atmosphere, on a general construction, with the removal of a combat banner. The young recruiting, distributed in the guard units and formations, was awarded this honor after a baptism of fire, and in aviation and navy only after several military sorties or a campaign. This rule applies to both ordinary and officer personnel.

                Source: http://medalww.ru/nagrady-sssr/nagrudnye-znaki-sssr/znak-gvardiya/ WWII Awards © medalww.ru
                1. Pravdarm
                  Pravdarm April 5 2016 23: 21
                  0
                  Quote: Yuyuka
                  Why should they be Guards - Internal Troops?
                  A few I agree with you. But, Inside there is no war as such. But there is a struggle with internal enemies. Created now, later it will also lead to the highest in the fight against internal enemies. And then the same
                  the “Guard” badge was awarded in a festive atmosphere, on a general construction, with the removal of a combat banner. Young recruits, distributed in the guard units and formations, received this honor
                  they will have their own traditions, as in aviation, and in the Navy, etc.
                  Just like in the Army, it all started with something.
                  I have the honor!
                  1. Yuyuka
                    Yuyuka April 6 2016 00: 35
                    -1
                    they will have their own traditions, as in aviation, and in the Navy, etc.
                    Just like in the Army, it all started with something.


                    Why not take a new name? After all, they invented the videoconferencing? And, yes, I agree about the traditions, but it is better to create YOUR traditions. And I don’t like that the meaning of this word was associated with a feat in the VO, where this prefix was added to the name of the military unit, and those who served later, many years later, tried to correspond to this rank - the guardsman, and with the advent of the national guard the high meaning is lost this title. It’s not an advance, it’s a title for future achievements, somehow purely American ... like with the Obamkov Nobel of the world, an advance was given ... hi
                    1. Pravdarm
                      Pravdarm April 6 2016 01: 17
                      0
                      Quote: Yuyuka
                      Why not take a new name? After all, they invented the videoconferencing?
                      VKS came up with?!?!? belay wassat laughing fellow recourse good fool

                      PS: 1:09!
                      ALL! I AM SLEEPING! Good night everybody!

                      PS: I am looking through Vesti.doc in parallel. a film about donbass. after such bickering. Kurginyan has just called the vile Pole Yakob Koreib a fascist scum after he said that it is necessary to kill those who are in the Donbass and there are those who have the right to kill, divide into those who need to be killed. after advertising this chma is gone. Mikheev, Skobeeva are outraged to the limit.
                      1. Yuyuka
                        Yuyuka April 6 2016 13: 29
                        +2
                        VKS came up with?!?!?

                        Thank you for the night storm of emotions! laughing I hope I slept well! wink

                        dog-dog. although I didn’t understand - what pleased you? although ... the first attempt - I wanted to sleep, because my expression was taken literally. I will clarify Manenko - the abbreviation was meant.

                        By the way, about the "abbreviation" - interestingly, I did not know before that "morgue", although a French word, but in the 20s the Russians successfully turned it into an abbreviation - Place of Final Registration of Citizens wassat

                        pys-pys-pys. And instead of the National Guard, one could come up with a different name ... After all, are these the troops operating inside the country? Well, you could call it that - the Allied Forces (Inland Troops) laughing hi
            2. opus
              opus April 5 2016 21: 46
              +5
              Quote: Pravdarm
              I think, nevertheless, the guard - sounds proudly!

              At sunset of the USSR national guard called various illegal armed groups for example in Chechnya, in Georgia (National Guard of Georgia).
              Quote: Pravdarm
              In the Army, the guardsman is higher in honor.

              This is not an army!

              Putin: FSKN and FMS go to the Ministry of Internal Affairscreated by the National Guard ...
              “The chief is God's servant, good for you. If you do evil, be afraid, for he does not in vain carry a sword ... "

              1.There is a difference between "Guard" (Warda - Defender) and "National Guard" (guardia nazionale - national guard?
              2. The title of Guard, Guards ... still need to earn

              Quote: Pravdarm
              I don’t think it’s necessary to associate with urki or the USA.

              Only we as popuzy monkeys: they have a president and we, the mayor and we, NG, they and we.
              And "ARMY" is not Anglic and not the USA, it is LATIN Armare - arm.
              I here (and weight) for RIM (those millennial) imitate.
              Roads in Wales, Spain, Italy still stand, the water supply too (I saw it myself)
              Quote: Pravdarm
              In our opinion, it’s good - POLICE, policeman, comrade policeman. Cops in the end! Dear ones.

              The word police is not ours (US Police Act 1792) ;.
              Mongolia - Tsagdaa, Japan - keisatsu / keisatsu
              Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
              with the French Revolution and Lafayette?

              I have a clear association with the USA
              1. Pravdarm
                Pravdarm April 5 2016 22: 26
                +2
                Quote: opus
                This is not an army!

                So what? Also a POWERED, armed department!
                Only 2 of these are complete. Defense Ministry (an external security threat) and the Ministry of Internal Affairs (an internal security threat to citizens, people).
                Quote: opus
                At sunset of the USSR, various illegal armed groups were called the national guard, for example, in Chechnya, in Georgia
                So what? (all the more, I clarified that the "national" is bad, and the guard is honorary, with respect, and somehow there has been a long-ago hostile attitude towards the VVs (jarg. - ...)
                Quote: opus
                The title of Guard, Guard ... still need to earn
                Well, what does BB do not deserve?
                Quote: opus
                The word police is not ours (US Police Act 1792) ;.
                Mongolia - Tsagdaa, Japan - keisatsu / keisatsu
                But what have you got to the bottom of. Show the 1792 Militia Act. This is translated into ours that "police", and there about the National Guard (the words "POLICE" - THERE IS NOT!
                Mong. "tsagdaa" and jap. "Keisatsu" is also not quite like the word "militia", or rather - NOT AT ALL ...!, the fact that they have the same functions, for example, is that in ALL states there are bodies with such functions.
                Ref .: Militia (from Lat. Militia - “army”, “service”, “campaign”, “roads”, “chivalry”, “people's militia”) - the name of law enforcement bodies (equivalent to the police) in the USSR after the February Revolution and five socialist countries: Bulgaria, Mongolia, Poland, Romania and Yugoslavia.
                Only we as popuzy monkeys: they have a president and we, the mayor and we, NG, they and we.
                Here I completely agree. Right now, "Primaries" are cutting our ears!
                Further robert49, 22:18 said about the guard.
                1. Pravdarm
                  Pravdarm April 5 2016 22: 57
                  +1
                  I will add:
                  Quote: opus
                  At sunset of the USSR national guard called various illegal armed groups for example in Chechnya, in Georgia (National Guard of Georgia).
                  ISIS called itself a STATE, why should we now rename the word "State"? Or the word "Islam"? So it is generally then n ...
                  So do not la la.
                2. opus
                  opus April 5 2016 23: 23
                  +2
                  Quote: Pravdarm
                  So what? Also a POWERED, armed department!

                  Chop, the same as a rule armed, power. There is still VOKhR (power, armed).
                  Quote: Pravdarm
                  counter-threat

                  that sounds
                  Quote: Pravdarm
                  Ну и что?

                  You repeat
                  Quote: Pravdarm
                  Why did you get to the bottom.

                  do you have mania?
                  Quote: Pravdarm
                  Show the 1792 Police Act

                  you are welcome: Militia Acts of 1792


                  Quote: Pravdarm
                  Mong. "tsagdaa" and jap. "keisatsu" is also not quite like the word "police"

                  of course. They do not behave like the Papuans (or rather, of course, "not quite").
                  Quote: Pravdarm
                  Ref .:

                  in fact, if you already "google", then m: this is the people's militia, detachments of armed citizens in a number of countries, irregular armed formations.
                  What you broadcast
                  Quote: Pravdarm
                  police equivalent)
                  , this is an invention of fiery revolutionaries that does not correspond to the meaning of this word.

                  Quote: Pravdarm
                  ISIS called himself a STATE

                  1. Well, the term "ISIL" BEFORE BEFORE the state arose.
                  State - country, power, land, kingdom, sovereign, prince
                  1. opus
                    opus April 5 2016 23: 48
                    0
                    2.ig * l, by state this is what you call.
                    They are alDʌulë alḀslamȋë, and can be "offended" when they are called the CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC WORD.
                    Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli, 1513, "Sovereign" (IL Principe), I will immediately quote the screen (otherwise you will beg again, as about the act of "US police")

                    Quote: Pravdarm
                    So do not la la.

                    That's right, don't, otherwise you have a solid "la-la" (nonsense), populist, for "+" s.
                    1. Pravdarm
                      Pravdarm April 6 2016 01: 03
                      0
                      Quote: opus
                      Chop, the same as a rule armed, power. There is still VOKhR (power, armed).

                      This is not the level of the Ministry!
                      You’re still a detachment, platoon will be pulled in, non-departmental.

                      Quote: opus
                      -Quote: PravdARM
                      Mong. "tsagdaa" and jap. "keisatsu" is also not quite like the word "police"
                      of course. They do not behave like the Papuans (or rather, of course, "not quite").
                      What has it to do with: "Do not behave like popuas? Are you delusional?
                      Quote: opus
                      -in fact, if you google

                      For a long time "I looked at" your "publications". EVERYTHING ends
                      Used materials, photos and videos:
                      http://relaxic.net
                      https://meduza.io
                      http://svpressa.ru
                      http://militaryrussia.ru/
                      http://www.rusdialog.ru/
                      https://www.youtube.com
                      http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-building-nuclear-armed-drone-subm
                      arine /
                      .................. Posted by Anton [opus]
                      And all the comments you have been preparing for a long time using the Internet.

                      So, you - tyrnet - "smart guy"!
                      Quote: opus
                      then again I curseЬyou will read

                      I did not beg, but asked. Still you - the offended HAM!
                      It looks like a tyrnet-"teenager" who wants to seem like an adult smart Uncle!
                      I saw it. again: so what? If the word "Medicine" or others is from Latin, then we cannot use it? Huh, Teenager ?!
                      Quote: opus
                      and then you have a solid "la-la" (nonsense), populist, for "+" s.
                      And so they say the local offended.
                      For those who are on an armored train with armored guards - I am a marshal (virtual). And the plus signs - FUCK! You "smart" do not understand this?
                      Quote: opus
                      - Well, the term "ISIL" BEFORE the state emerged.
                      State - country, power, land, kingdom, sovereign, prince
                      Everything is clear, what I said!

                      DS: Tyrnet Teen
                      So.
                      WHAT? YOU ARE OFFERING? AS? CALL? IF ALL WORDS ARE LONG ALREADY "BUSY". Moreover, they are blackened, vulgarized (in your opinion). AND? OFFER!
                      THAT is my message, which YOU inflated into several pages! About what words should be done and good deeds to sanctify words, terms! As always, ORIGINALLY everything was done and forged. And the word "Army" and "Fleet". soldier
                      1. opus
                        opus April 6 2016 03: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        This is not the level of the Ministry!

                        whose? Departments?
                        PMCs? not
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        Also POWERFUL, armed department!


                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        non-departmental.

                        Can I help you
                        Quote: opus
                        WOHR still there (power, armed).
                        to decrypt?
                        by the way, VOHR is included in
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        Ministry level!
                        (Ministry of Internal Affairs).
                        Let's call it the Guard
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        Long ago "Looked at" Your "publications"

                        I'm poh. I do not follow people
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        And all the comments you have been preparing for a long time using the Internet.


                        1. Not long
                        2.Not all
                        3.Well, and all your "comments" (especially in quotes) are OWN PHOTOS?

                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        So, you - tyrnet - "smart guy"!

                        I will leave your reasoning and "conclusions" behind the scenes.
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        you will beg

                        Well, I repent, not very literate.
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        Still you - the offended HAM!

                        maybe ham. But ov you judging by the reaction- resentful lowered hamik.
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        Ah, Teen ?!

                        Nope, I'm not a teenager, learn this fucking
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        You "smart" do not understand this?

                        no, it's not clear. all your comments (well, I quickly looked through "Into the stream") -cheap. but this is my opinion, do not be upset
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        WHAT? YOU ARE OFFERING? AS? CALL? IF ALL WORDS ARE LONG ALREADY "BUSY". Moreover, they are blackened, vulgarized (in your opinion). AND? OFFER!

                        You do not get carried away like that (otherwise there is nothing to breathe).
                        You wrote (well, I think this is nonsense, flirting with the public, and indeed outright stupidity)
                        I objected, justified (more or less, with grammatical errors), and you already left for the feces.
                      2. opus
                        opus April 6 2016 03: 17
                        +1
                        ---------------------------------------
                        And so, still a bit MOSCOM (or whatever you have, think),the term "NATIONAL GUARD" is not applicable to a state with a federal structure (RF), a multinational one, all the more so. Although federated they are so multinational ..
                        which nation is the guard? titular, Chechen or Vepsky (there is such a nation, not a nation, but not the essence).
                        There is an American nation (NG), there is (well, they think so) the Ukrainian nation (kakly) and there is a NATIONAL GUARD in these states. (well, or some who believe that there is).
                        National Guard of Germany?

                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        Those. In this case, I like it!

                        Well, "the stump is clear" ... I licked it, so licked it, almost like (sprout, ugh post did not come out)
                      3. Pravdarm
                        Pravdarm April 6 2016 03: 54
                        0
                        Quote: opus
                        ---------------------------------------
                        And so, still a bit MOSCOM (or whatever you have, think),the term "NATIONAL GUARD" is not applicable to a state with a federal structure (RF), a multinational one, all the more so. Although federated they are so multinational ..
                        which nation is the guard? titular, Chechen or Vepsky (there is such a nation, not a nation, but not the essence).
                        There is an American nation (NG), there is (well, they think so) the Ukrainian nation (kakly) and there is a NATIONAL GUARD in these states. (well, or some who believe that there is).
                        National Guard of Germany?
                        First, he said a hundred times that I do not like National.
                        Secondly, what is lyapneTe about the terms "national security", "national interests" ???
                        What? Not your ... smiling? When these terms are pronounced by ALL THE GOVERNORS OF ALL STATES?!?!?
                        BUT?!
                        Tyrnet is a wise guy.

                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        Those. In this case, I like it!

                        Well, "the stump is clear" ... I licked it, so licked it, almost like (sprout, ugh post did not come out)

                        Why are you licking, PIN?
                        just switched to you. in reply.
                        contempt negative
                      4. opus
                        opus April 6 2016 11: 40
                        -2
                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        Secondly, what is lyapneTe about the terms "national security", "national interests" ???

                        I'll blurt out, blurt out. NB, NO ... this is the same as "early spring", "severe frosts", "Russian world".
                        If you do not have enough Moscow potential (or what replaces it .. GANGLAND?) To understand the difference between the National Guard of the Russian Federation and "Cold Autumn 1953" ... I can not help with. I'm not a doctor

                        Quote: Pravdarm
                        Why are you licking, PIN?

                        I see, I see.
                        / Recently, the same, thanks to him, introduced such a concept.

                        I think the comments are unnecessary?

                        don't worry so much.
                        Better, throw a complaint to administrators.
                        -------------------------------------------------


                        I say goodbye to sim
        2. Robert49
          Robert49 April 5 2016 23: 06
          +3
          Guardsmen of Rodimtsev literally at the last moment struck the Germans, who went ashore of the Volga.
  2. Robert49
    Robert49 April 5 2016 22: 18
    +1
    Guard. The guard was called the selected, privileged military units formed by Peter I from the "amusement troops", at first from the Preobrazhensky and Semenovsky regiments.
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires April 5 2016 20: 22
    +12
    The creation of NG is a desire to move the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense together ... and, hypothetically, if the authorities need to shoot people, the army may not be able to cope ... Or maybe the elite cleansing is coming ...
    1. tomket
      tomket April 5 2016 20: 31
      +26
      Quote: AlexTires
      Or maybe the cleaning of the elites is coming ..

      The first thing that came to mind was the creation of a guardianship to fight the elites. But will they fight the elites, or will the arrows switch to the people?
      1. AlexTires
        AlexTires April 5 2016 20: 43
        +6
        namely, about this I wrote ... I would not want to ..
        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm April 5 2016 21: 00
          +2
          Quote: tomket
          Quote: AlexTires
          Or maybe the cleaning of the elites is coming ..

          The first thing that came to mind was the creation of a guardianship to fight the elites. But will they fight the elites, or will the arrows switch to the people?
          Maybe the NKVD?
          It is said: `There will be no 37th, And no one will cancel the Guard` 17. belay
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      3. Winter cherry
        Winter cherry April 5 2016 21: 44
        -2
        The people are the pillar of GDP, and the elite may want a coup. If the GDP trample against the people, the elite will gobble up it right away and no NG will help. There everyone has them - a candidate for the presidency, but at least Medved will justify everything and spin it
        1. nycsson
          nycsson April 5 2016 22: 00
          +7
          Quote: Winter cherry
          People - support GDP

          He laughed heartily! fool
          1. Kibalchish
            Kibalchish April 5 2016 23: 01
            +6
            Quote: nycsson
            Quote: Winter cherry
            People - support GDP

            He laughed heartily! fool


            I also laughing GDP and people in general do not overlap
        2. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS April 6 2016 00: 00
          +2
          Quote: Winter cherry
          People - support GDP

          Aha wink , and the national guard will be a backup lol
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      5. epsilon571
        epsilon571 April 5 2016 21: 55
        +7
        Or maybe the cleaning of the elites is coming ..
        The first thing that came to mind was the creation of a guardianship to fight the elites. But will they fight the elites, or will the arrows switch to the people?


        So let's see after the election what kind of guard this is and what the consequences of its work will lead to. All this is alarming, and leads to sad thoughts, and I have them: the regions are preparing for the struggle, the discontent of the people is growing, and the unpopular power, as is known from history, is not based on ideas, but on the bayonets of the gendarmes. I would not want such a development of events, well, is history in Russia a vicious circle?
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS April 5 2016 22: 37
          +8
          Quote: epsilon571
          Well, is history in Russia a vicious circle?

          If the circle is closed on socialism, then I am FOR !!!
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 April 6 2016 02: 35
            +3
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            If the circle closes on socialism, then I am FOR

            Vitya socialism is alas utopian - capitalism would be simple for us, ordinary according to A. Smith - would have lived like in a fairy tale - and not the ugly piling up of oligarchs and officials - the state-oligarchic capitalism of Russia.
        2. warriordima
          warriordima April 6 2016 07: 26
          -1
          If you choose, then for me it’s better to have your own tyrant than a bunch of alien vagabond liberal-toleraists who plunder the country and corrupt the people, emasculate the culture with which to spit on this land and nation.
    2. 34 region
      34 region April 5 2016 20: 41
      +10
      Alex Tires! 20.22. As it says, to fight organized crime! Is the arrest of an official organized crime? Or until this day did not fight with organized crime groups? I don’t understand how riot police will fight corruption? Will COB collect in conspiracy, money laundering, cutting?
    3. 34 region
      34 region April 5 2016 20: 45
      +10
      A purge of the elites can be carried out by the tax service with bailiffs. So far, nothing seems to be confiscated from honestly earned money. It's unclear.
      1. opus
        opus April 5 2016 23: 55
        +9
        Quote: Region 34
        A purge of the elites can be carried out by the tax service with bailiffs.

        for this we need

        where to get.
        FISH ALWAYS ROTS FROM THE HEAD (well, such a physiology)


        A recent example: Serdyukov + Vasiliev, another confirmation of this


        who will control the controllers who control, well, id.
        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm April 6 2016 02: 32
          +4
          Quote: opus
          who will control the controllers who control, well, id.
          As well as quality control in any enterprise (firm). Everything has long been said, before YOU
          Accounting and control - this is the main economic task of each Council of workers, soldiers and peasants' deputies
          IN AND. Lenin

          PS: Just do not about the controllers of controllers of controllers of controllers of controllers ...

          No one will control the controllers controllers controllers controllers controllers ... IF IF YOU WANT !!!!


          ANARCHY - MOTHER ORDER, MOTHER HER.

          Quote: opus
          who will control the controllers who control, well, id.
          YOU!

          And ...
    4. weksha50
      weksha50 April 5 2016 21: 37
      +8
      Quote: AlexTires
      hypothetically, if the authorities need to shoot people, the army may not be able to cope..



      The army may refuse to shoot at people ... It will be more accurate ... Even legally - this is not its function ...
  • Putinets
    Putinets April 5 2016 20: 35
    -1
    Sometimes I don’t understand the Supreme

    I can be mistaken, but it seems to me, but before the possible riots of all kinds of people who can be seen in our country in the elections, and quickly neutralizing them, the GDP collects everything in one fist, which will be coordinated from one center and it will be easier to tear all liberal and Nazbol scum into the foot
    1. atalef
      atalef April 5 2016 20: 41
      +10
      Quote: Putin
      I can be mistaken, but it seems to me, but before the possible riots of any kind of maydanut in our country in the elections, and their quick neutralization, the GDP collects all in one fist

      To the point.
      Quote: Putin
      which will be coordinated from one center and

      And the head is
      Viktor Zolotov began his career in the 9th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR, which was later transformed into the Federal Security Service (FSO). In the early 90s, he was the bodyguard of the mayor of St. Petersburg, Anatoly Sobchak and his then deputy Vladimir Putin. And when Putin became prime minister, Viktor Zolotov led his guard. Until 2013, Zolotov was the head of the president’s security service, but then moved to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, where a year later he led the internal troops and was appointed deputy minister.
      1. Finches
        Finches April 5 2016 20: 47
        +6
        God's chosen scholar! How deeply you marked everything ... laughing hi
      2. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 April 5 2016 22: 20
        0
        "... So why the heck of the ass hormone and reorganization? ..." That's why, in life, I'm surprised at the Jews ... After 22 comments: "To the point!" Sly Handsome! hi Traced opinions and instantly reacted ... good
    2. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS April 5 2016 22: 34
      +9
      Quote: Putin
      GDP collects everything in one fist, which will be coordinated from one center and it will be easier to tear all liberal and nazbolskoe scum

      And when will he tear the oligarchic scum? chubayatsy then all in power and the loot.
      1. opus
        opus April 6 2016 00: 00
        +8
        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        chubayatsy then all in power and the loot.

        The Accounts Chamber checked Rusnano and was horrified (Nano train on Chubais)

        For 5 years, 6 billion rubles were spent. for administrative and business needs. Another 5,3 billion rubles. expended on staff placement (purchase and repair of part of the building), another 4 billion rubles. spent on various kinds of consulting and expert services; 560 million rubles — for security services, 850 million rubles — for transport. Well, 7 billion rubles. for wages and social benefits. The cost of labor per person from 2007 to 2012 increased from 65 thousand rubles. up to 593 thousand rubles, or more than 9 times "

        “It was established that OJSC Rusnano was issued loans worth 34,3 billion rubles, while the collateral accepted in the pledge in many cases has an overestimated value and cannot be sold at the pledged value. The cost of the same objects in comparable periods differs several times. More than 47 billion rubles, or 35,3% of the total project financing, OJSC Rusnano sent abroad to support the activities of various organizations in order to transfer nanotechnology to the Russian Federation. At the time of verification, the presence of any documents confirming the effectiveness of the investments made, not installed»
        Results?
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS April 6 2016 00: 07
          +5
          Quote: opus
          Results?

          Honorary National Guard under the Namber 1 laughing
          Quote: opus
          The cost of labor per person from 2007 to 2012 increased from 65 thousand rubles. up to 593 thousand rubles, or more than 9 times "

          1. opus
            opus April 6 2016 00: 17
            +7
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            Honorary National Guard under the Namber 1



            March 02, 2016 The state corporation Rusnano asked 89 billion rubles from the National Wealth Fund (NWF). The corporation needs this money to launch a $ 2 billion Russian-Indian fund.

            With a corresponding request, the head of Rusnano, Anatoly Chubais, turned to the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin, Interfax reports.

            Anatoly Chubais asks to provide funds from the National Wealth Fund on a repayable basis for a period of 15 years, with the possibility of early repayment and at a rate of not more than 2% per annum.

            ................ NWF disappeared
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null April 6 2016 00: 32
              +5
              Quote: opus
              NWF disappeared

              Purely for reference:

              As of April 1, 2016, according to the Ministry of Finance, the volume of funds of the National Welfare Fund of Russia is 4 billion rubles.

              That is, Chubais "asked" less than 2% of the NWF. Which, however, does not negate the fact that he is a ginger cockroach and a patented fraud yes
              1. opus
                opus April 6 2016 00: 49
                +4
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Purely for reference:

                Yes, I know.
                Purely for reference:
                1. The NWF "lies" mostly in category 1 securities (receipts of the FRS, ECB)
                0,50% -FED, ECB 0.00% now -0.05% March 2016.
                Accordingly, our profitability is the same (or minus the discount)
                2. Our money is there, the Fed or the ECB lends to its banks (cashless in a computer, for our cash for goods), those enterprises.
                They have loan rates of 1-1,25%, cars in Germany now offer loans with a NEGATIVE rate (there are some), and so at 0% -0,5%
                3. We have a Central Bank of 11%, enterprises at 16% (good), and so the norm. 18% -20% (they will also bear the brain).

                Question: But what about Chubais under 2%?
                Reference: "Almaz-Antey" takes at 15-16%, Zvezdochka, in different ways, according to the report from 12% to 21%.
                / This is to the question: American military equipment is more expensive than Russian, so by the way


                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Which, however, does not cancel that

                what am I broadcasting. Will give
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                "less than 2% of the NWF
                , will steal another 2%, and then the rest.
                It’s not for nothing that I brought a photo:

                I can one more thing:


                Does RAO UES need to be brought?
                1. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 April 6 2016 03: 00
                  +6
                  Quote: opus
                  It’s not for nothing that I brought a photo:

                  Oh, my youngest graduated from school and did not wait for the nano-textbook, passed with the enemy iPad)))
                  The eldest - my grandson, in the third grade already and also with the enemy only iPad mini crying
                  1. opus
                    opus April 6 2016 14: 36
                    -1
                    Quote: afdjhbn67
                    Oh my little school

                    my youngest (11 years old) still has a chance ... "ghostly".
                    Although I doubt it.
                    Also ah Pad3 drags (already the glass "burned" grunt, the Chinese clone of glass works sucks)
  • Pereira
    Pereira April 5 2016 20: 43
    +7
    I have other associations.
    First of all, the guard is literally a guard.
    The National Guard is essentially the police in the original sense of the word, a semi-army identical in size to the internal troops.
    In general, not the best name is chosen.
    1. Vitwin
      Vitwin April 6 2016 04: 56
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      In general, not the best name is chosen.

      Nat. guard on the papamobile - "Punisher" will look very organic.
    2. Vitwin
      Vitwin April 6 2016 04: 56
      +2
      Quote: Pereira
      In general, not the best name is chosen.

      Nat. guard on the papamobile - "Punisher" will look very organic.
  • vsoltan
    vsoltan April 5 2016 20: 44
    -5
    Preparing a coup? It is high time. ... angry
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan April 6 2016 17: 20
      +1
      Well, what is incomprehensible in my thought? Not Zolotov, PUTIN, PUTIN is preparing a military rope in his own country. ..as it was in the days of Suloy, Caesar, Napoleon. ..What's not clear, minus signers? And let him cook, let him already do it, nehai will sweep away all this snickering banking evil, liberal liberal opposition, and small-town thieving leaders. ..you are all obviously against? Or is it difficult to move your brains?
  • owl
    owl April 5 2016 21: 04
    +4
    Quote: Finches
    Sometimes I don’t understand the Supreme.

    What is not clear here ?, a fluffy animal is wandering in the country, and even on the eve of the elections (the chair turned into a rocking chair), I personally have doubts about why the next sharashkin office was formed and against which "terrorists" then by all means now smile ) First of all, they’re murderers (I ask you to pay attention to the one that on the right is clearly the martyr’s belt laughing and big ):
    1. owl
      owl April 5 2016 21: 19
      -5
      I will still be surprised if those who are "without soap" are not shoved there, I mean kazachekov!
    2. sever.56
      sever.56 April 5 2016 21: 40
      +5
      Quote: gufo
      Shaw is not clear here ?, a furry animal wanders in the country, and even on the eve of the election


      Ltd...!!! So "gufo" was drawn !!!
      It proved itself to be its "SHO" ... And when will you have elections, "gufo", hk = every six, or twelve months? And "fluffy animals", already a whole army of these animals, surrounded your country from all sides. And the rabble of bandits and murderers, whom you call the National Guard, have already been noted in the DPR and LPR, pouring blood and raping the defenseless.
      PS Maybe I'm wrong, and under the guise of a "brother" from the outskirts it was written by a member of "PARNAS". One fig. For me, they are not much different from each other - they equally hate Russia. Yes, and a vegetable (horseradish) with them ... The horses themselves will move.
      1. owl
        owl April 5 2016 21: 54
        -7
        Quote: sever.56
        And "fluffy animals", already a whole army of these animals, surrounded your country from all sides

        I do not understand, are you from Ukraine?
        1. sever.56
          sever.56 April 5 2016 22: 04
          +3
          No, dear, I live happily in Russia, and, judging by your comments, in the Outskirts (in Polish), or in Ukraine (in Russian).
          1. owl
            owl April 5 2016 22: 21
            -4
            Quote: sever.56
            No, dear, I live happily in Russia,

            Well then, write: And "fluffy animals", already a whole army of these animals, overlaid OUR(because she is mine as well as yours) country from all sides
            Quote: sever.56
            and vi, judging by your comments,

            A v smile judging by your judgment are sick and not me laughing in medicine they call it - Crazy disorder.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira April 5 2016 23: 17
              +2
              The furry animal went to Russia, but got lost and decided to settle in Ukraine. And I respect his choice
            2. sever.56
              sever.56 April 6 2016 00: 19
              +2
              Quote: gufo
              And vi smile judging by your judgments are sick and not me

              Absolutely ... I have a normal sexual orientation. wassat


              Quote: gufo
              in medicine it is called - Delusional disorder.

              Well, straight "Kashpirovsky" ... What a talent for nothing!
              Offer your services ukroTV, such as TSN and what else is there.

              Quote: gufo
              And "fluffy animals", already a whole army of these animals, overlaid OUR (because it is mine, just like yours) country from all sides

              And here you are pierced, dear ...
              Not a single more or less literate person who has an education at least at the level of the 5th grade of a Russian comprehensive school will write: - "TOKESHE" instead of "SAME". From which it follows that "you are a sent Cossack" who has nothing to do with Russia, except to throw provocative comments.
              And even above you wrote - "Cossacks" - well, this is vaasche, a masterpiece.
              "Usbagoyte", and learn Russian so as not to pierce so clearly ... wassat
              1. owl
                owl April 6 2016 02: 11
                0
                Quote: sever.56
                And here you are pierced, dear ...

                laughing I would still turn to the doctor in your place! Heal yourself then come to Voronezh I will meet you and try (I see the illness that has already started) to dispel your doubts laughing
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 April 5 2016 23: 10
      0
      Quote: gufo
      first of all, they’re murderers (I ask you to pay attention to the one that on the right is clearly the martyr’s belt

      You did not read manuals on creating color revolutions? If not, I advise you to broaden your horizons.
      And, by the way, in the photographs the detainees are being conducted without any cruelty about which all kinds of "human rights activists" like to shout.
      Quote: gufo
      why the next sharashkin office was formed and against which "terrorists"

      The residents of Libya and Syria can tell you about this.
      1. owl
        owl April 5 2016 23: 27
        0
        Quote: Dart2027
        And by the way, in the photographs of the detainees they’re leading without any cruelties.

        Have fun wassat
        And I wish you the same (without cruelty)!
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 April 6 2016 06: 50
          0
          Quote: gufo
          Have fun

          That is, essentially nothing to say.
          Quote: gufo
          And I wish you the same (without cruelty)

          If God forbid the civil war so desired by you begins, and any revolution is just a prologue to the Great Patriotic War, I wish you, like all other amateurs, to argue that bad riot police only oppress the poor and unfortunate and only revolution will change the country, slurp its charms full measure.
  • Grenader
    Grenader April 5 2016 21: 36
    +3
    Quote: Finches

    Sometimes I don’t understand the Supreme .... I understood a little - I personally locked myself in - my own army .. but the name is jarring!

    In our Russian realities, such a toy in the hands of the president is always a two-way pack. If the president is adequate, then there seems to be nothing to worry about, and if the patient has a sick ebn then it is not known how he will apply such a club.
    1. Finches
      Finches April 5 2016 21: 52
      0
      We have a whole country stick is not even about two, but about the many ends .... laughing
  • nycsson
    nycsson April 5 2016 22: 05
    +4
    Quote: Finches
    Sometimes I don’t understand the Supreme ....

    Many things are incomprehensible to us not because our concepts are weak; but because these things are not part of our circle of concepts. yes
  • Alekseev
    Alekseev April 5 2016 22: 08
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    I understood a little

    I haven’t yet ... Unknown tasks, structure, strength, weapons.
    The fight against terrorism and org. crime - and now there is someone to do. OMON, SOBR, VV Isn't that what they were doing and are doing? The army also helps in severe cases.
    Moreover, they do not report - it is planned to add OMONs, etc., to this guard together with the explosives or they themselves, and the new structure will be formed again, although using separate parts of the explosives as a base.
    The structure is still, possibly nominally, included in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but it does not seem to cancel the internal troops.
    Time will tell what this army is for.
    Maybe they take an example from Luke - there he seems to be building a territorial defense system for every fireman under the leadership of the regional chiefs.
    We have an army with a gulkin nose in size, and there are no special opportunities to increase it, but imagine a serious conflict with the same banderlogy.
    Yes, the Armed Forces will "neutralize" the Armed Forces in one operational direction, for example, in the Donbass, and should someone cover all 2200 km of the border at least from the DRG?
    Well, by the way, these are my speculations. laughing
    Wait and see.
  • zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 April 5 2016 22: 13
    +8
    Zyablitsev! The National Guard in the United States is not a militant rabble, but a trained reserve for the army and the ILC. They are trained and maintain their knowledge and skills not bad. Another function of the NG is to help and restore the structure during natural or man-made disasters. And how It is said to solve internal problems (the functions of our BB troops). NG as a system is quite functional and well-developed. We talked about creating a permanent reserve on the basis of the NY Americans principle (concluding agreements, leaving part once a month or in a different format), but everything died down (although the topic is much better than partisanism every five or even more years). Due to the creation of the National Guard (with a capital letter as it is not written) on the basis of special divisions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the BB, it’s complete insanity. OPINION: NEXT CENTRALIZATION, TRANSFER OF SPECIALS UNDER MOSCOW. Specialists (OMON, SOBR, etc.) are currently directly subordinate to the regional or republican authorities. When reforming, they will be given on the ground but no more, submission will be direct to Moscow. WHAT WE MAKE THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE LORD GOOD, WE ARE A LOOP ON THE NECK MORE hitched up!
    1. Pereira
      Pereira April 5 2016 23: 22
      +4
      Everything can turn out like in the USSR.
      The KGB and ideologists laid down their life so that no one could rebel against Soviet power. They successfully solved this problem. But at the same time they achieved that no one stood up for the defense of the Soviet power when needed.
      Again the same rake.
    2. AndreyS
      AndreyS April 6 2016 09: 36
      +1
      Quote: zadorin1974
      MY OPINION: NEXT CENTRALIZATION, TRANSFER OF SPECIALS UNDER MOSCOW. Specialists (OMON, SOBR, etc.) are currently directly subordinate to regional or republican authorities.

      I will upset you a little. All specialists of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are directly subordinate to Moscow (there is such a center - UPSNiA), and in the regions and republics they are under operational control. Well, something like this. Moreover, such an order was introduced ten years ago (approximately).
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 April 6 2016 10: 23
        +1
        Yes, actually, and there’s nothing Andrey. For the last 15 years, everything is changing and changing request. But the meaning is still clear.
  • Kombrig
    Kombrig April 5 2016 23: 29
    +3
    Quote: Finches
    and the National Guard is a militant rabble in the USA or now punitive in Ukraine! As still I can’t understand - why the heck to make the police out of the police - for whom and why ??? Anyway...


    ... Well, yes, first the police, then the ubutsmen, then the National Guard and then what is Congress and Senate? What for? Such negative associations request
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet April 6 2016 07: 03
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    and the National Guard is a militant rabble in the USA

    Here it is, the dog is buried! All indignation from the name - since there is such a thing in the USA, then this is definitely BAD! wink
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 5 2016 20: 21
    +3
    There is no National Guard in "Bandokhokhlaria" - there are National Guard and formations of frostbitten ones.
  • Major Yurik
    Major Yurik April 5 2016 20: 28
    +6
    Quote: Amulet
    What say gentlemen? Spoiled Ukraine the word National Guard?


    I think I’ll rub it, at first the word police was also associated with policemen or a gendarme shout: Where are you going, face!, And then settled down, though ....! sad
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    2. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 April 5 2016 20: 56
      +13
      And you friends, no matter how you sit down ... H then BB, that NG is the essence of the gendarmerie.
  • tomket
    tomket April 5 2016 20: 29
    +14
    Quote: Amulet
    What say gentlemen? Spoiled Ukraine the word National Guard?

    I feel that the strangeness of some "cunning plans" I will never understand .....
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 5 2016 21: 05
      .
      There are no cunning plans; there is an enemy of the people and communism Putin
  • Sarmat149
    Sarmat149 April 5 2016 22: 11
    0
    In Ukraine, and there is a landing, do not care about them.
  • Blondy
    Blondy April 6 2016 00: 08
    0
    The National Guard - all, damn it, we lick the mattresses. They would call the militia according to the old (from Lat. Militia - “army” ...), everything would only sound more colored. Look, the police were transferred to the police - so now the people do not call them other than policemen (at least because the policeman is too long and long to pronounce), well, and what is the main meaning in our country this word - no one needs to explain.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null April 6 2016 00: 20
      +4
      Quote: Blondy
      police officers were transferred to the police - so the people now do not call them other than policemen (at least because the policeman is too long and long to pronounce)

      Yeah, for sure .. it takes a long time to pronounce it .. but the policemen were all honestly and they called them "policemen" wink
      1. bubalik
        bubalik April 6 2016 00: 39
        +2
        ,, Patrol Inspector of Road Regulation ,, (current and former employees) do not be offended by folklore lol
  • hobot
    hobot April 6 2016 04: 29
    -1
    It is impossible to spoil this word - which nation - such and the guard.
  • Blondy
    Blondy April 6 2016 06: 59
    +1
    Quote: Amulet
    What say gentlemen?

    Well, as the lady decently puts it ... It’s possible to get it over, which administrative and intellectual resource is concentrated in the presidential guard.
    And this, probably, is our Russian cross: What is tsarist, what is the USSR, what is the present - one hell is an empire. So what is the king, that the secretary general, that the president - in the end, the Emperor of All Russia.
  • AndreyS
    AndreyS April 6 2016 09: 31
    0
    Quote: Amulet
    What say gentlemen? Spoiled Ukraine the word National Guard?

    Let's just say: I didn’t spoil it, but just DICKED (sorry for being rude)!
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 5 2016 20: 15
    +1
    Some kind of Italian trend. What for?
  • Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo April 5 2016 20: 16
    0
    Q. what for a goat button accordion? (maybe someone connected with these structures will shed light on these actions.)
    1. tol100v
      tol100v April 5 2016 20: 52
      +3
      Quote: Zlyden.Zlo
      Q. what for a goat button accordion?

      Increase the number of posts with big stars. But essentially the Ministry of Internal Affairs remains.
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik April 5 2016 20: 17
    0
    armed formations in Ukraine, the term "National Guard" itself will be perceived in Russia with some caution


    Here is the first thing that came to mind precisely this analogy.
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 5 2016 20: 17
    +10
    He served in Uzbekistan 1993-1994 In the National Guard, was also formed on the basis of the military, although they smoothly switched to airborne training with jumps with all the pies, the tasks were the same officers, as a rule, mostly "Afghans" soldiers were recruited according to the principle of at least 175 cm CO1 (degree of restriction 1) I remembered the weight of the armor for a long time. Insignia black beret.
  • vglazunov
    vglazunov April 5 2016 20: 17
    +11
    Everything is under American standards, instead of the police, the police, and here's the nat. guard. Is Russia a colony of the United States or all sorts of Chubais dictated by the CIA rewrite the Constitution of the Russian Federation?
    1. Alexdark
      Alexdark April 5 2016 22: 19
      0
      I have always been touched by the gifted people who associate the word "police" with the United States. By the likes, I see a lot of you wise men.
    2. Robert49
      Robert49 April 5 2016 22: 20
      0
      Guard. The guard was called the selected, privileged military units formed by Peter I from the "amusement troops", at first from the Preobrazhensky and Semenovsky regiments.
    3. savantol
      savantol April 6 2016 01: 04
      -1
      Who wrote the Constitution? ..... here are the names corresponding .....
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires April 5 2016 20: 19
    +10
    But I read several years ago that the arrival in the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Zolotov should have stopped talking about the creation of the National Guard, the rumors about the creation of which went back in the year 2012 mm ... And I do not want to be a predictor, but somehow, no one seems to us that we witnessed the creation of a new oprichnina?
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan April 5 2016 20: 46
      +2
      So how bad is the new oprichnina? The phenomenon in history of the condemned is unfair. Nekhay the Supreme clean all rubbish. ..strong move good
    2. serg2108
      serg2108 April 5 2016 21: 46
      0
      it was like that ... only in the ministry of internal affairs of the russian federation there, on the contrary, they were waiting for this
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  • SSR
    SSR April 5 2016 20: 21
    +4
    In general, I support that the National Guard is subordinate only to the President and in the event of a certain military operation, the likelihood that the "relatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs" will begin to warn or excuse their own is much less and attempts to obstruct the Guardsmen will be minimized.
    1. Foofighter
      Foofighter April 5 2016 22: 15
      0
      In the USA, the National Guard is subordinate to local authorities, and if the president and his feds in their district again decide to arrange something like 911, then she will simply shoot them
      1. SSR
        SSR April 5 2016 22: 27
        0
        Quote: FooFighter
        In the US, the National Guard is subordinate to local governments

        In Kyrgyzstan, the National Guard is subordinate to the president.
        AND WHAT? And in the ruin, in general, what the hell is that.
        At all "******" not to look back into the forest, the structure is subordinate to the president and personifies the "nation" (which is another question) and for the actions of which the president is responsible - this is a different format.
        PS
        Lurked and familiar exclusively with the Ukrainian National Guard, go through the forest dropping the minus))) and then through the expander, wider than the siotrim to the world))))
        1. Foofighter
          Foofighter April 6 2016 00: 03
          0
          Quote: SSR
          In Kyrgyzstan, the National Guard is subordinate to the president.

          therefore, this is impossible there, and the president there is a lord and not a servant
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS April 6 2016 00: 09
            +4
            Quote: FooFighter
            and the president is lord and not a servant

            and we have? belay
          2. SSR
            SSR April 6 2016 08: 27
            +2
            Quote: FooFighter
            Quote: SSR
            In Kyrgyzstan, the National Guard is subordinate to the president.

            therefore, this is impossible there, and the president there is a lord and not a servant

            Emmm which one? )))) Bakiev, Atambaev or Akayev? Now the people there and at Atambayev look "askance"))))

            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            Quote: FooFighter
            and the president is lord and not a servant

            and we have? belay

            Plus for brevity. ))))
  • Dalmatia
    Dalmatia April 5 2016 20: 25
    +3
    I don’t support ..
  • Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk April 5 2016 20: 26
    +14
    Why, brothers, why?
    New forms of organization means a revision of existing ones. Time.
    Under the guise will disperse those who rest, or oppose, or something else.
    ..
    New funds, new salaries, new lifting. New trends. New hiccups.
    New laws - MPs have something to do.
    New bookkeeping.
    New inspections, where you can fuse starters.
    ...
    All new.
    ...
    We have already decided everything in the country. The whole population is smeared with honey all the places. In kindergartens there is a shortage of wild kids. In schools, they study so much that universities cry - there is nothing to teach first-year students.
    The Ministry of Internal Affairs completely plagued criminals and household, there is nothing for operas to do.
    Damn prisons are empty, there is no one to plant, everyone has been reforged to the forefront of animal husbandry.
    ...
    Therefore, they create a new toy.
    And it’s not known that .... that the National Guard under Russian conditions is not very well associated.
    With the outlying figures. With the States.
    ...
    It turns out that the Guard of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation ... this is not the guard of the people and the army. Not a guard of nationalities of Russia.
    Just like that - Guard.
    ...
    And now there will be more - Nazi..onalnaya.
    ...
    ..
    Not encouraged. Not a gram.
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov April 5 2016 20: 34
      +2
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      Why, brothers, why?
      The whole population is smeared with honey all the places. In kindergartens there is a shortage of wild kids.

      And here you are lying. I don’t know how the rest, but trust is no longer there. My grandson is 4 years old in Novocherkassk, Rostov Region. We can’t get into the budget kindergarten for the second year, there are no empty seats. Second grandson from Lobny, Moscow region I also have 2 years now in Novocherkassk, because there is no kindergarten, and 25000 children cannot pay to the commercial garden. So, I did not understand where you saw empty gardens.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka April 5 2016 20: 40
        -1
        Quote: GregAzov
        Quote: Bashibuzuk
        Why, brothers, why?
        The whole population is smeared with honey all the places. In kindergartens there is a shortage of wild kids.

        And here you are lying. I don’t know how the rest, but trust is no longer there. My grandson is 4 years old in Novocherkassk, Rostov Region. We can’t get into the budget kindergarten for the second year, there are no empty seats. Second grandson from Lobny, Moscow region I also have 2 years now in Novocherkassk, because there is no kindergarten, and 25000 children cannot pay to the commercial garden. So, I did not understand where you saw empty gardens.

        Yes, kindergartens are being drunk throughout the country. Apparently nothing to do. In my school, after the 2000s, even incomplete, but 2 classes, and not 1. Ivanovo Region, the city of Vichuga began to be recruited. One of the poorest areas if that ...
      2. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk April 5 2016 20: 44
        +8
        Gregory, hello to you.
        The word sarcasm - do you know that?
        So I was just talking with sarcasm about the fact that in addition to creating a very, EXTREMELY resource-intensive structure .... much more useful could be done.
        It would be cheaper.
        Rating would raise.
        ...
        And dissatisfied or unreliable ... and the existing SOBR with riot police would clean out a fly.
        Give only the go-ahead.
        ...
        Only relatives can betray.
        Enemies never betray.
        So the creation of a personal National Guard ........ well, I can’t understand the depth of the President’s plans.
        And personally - I do not accept. To the spirit.
        1. Gregazov
          Gregazov April 5 2016 20: 53
          +2
          The word sarcasm is very familiar to me. I know another thing - for every word you have to answer. And he served incomplete 29 years.
          1. Bashibuzuk
            Bashibuzuk April 5 2016 20: 57
            +2
            So then it is not clear?
            What word should I answer for?
      3. tol100v
        tol100v April 5 2016 20: 57
        +5
        Quote: GregAzov
        . So, I did not understand where you saw empty gardens.

        Actually, the conversation is not about kindergartens, and not about children's issues. Just creating another power structure with strong powers!
        1. Mikado
          Mikado April 5 2016 21: 26
          +1
          Quote: Tol100v
          Quote: GregAzov
          . So, I did not understand where you saw empty gardens.

          Actually, the conversation is not about kindergartens, and not about children's issues. Just creating another power structure with strong powers!

          If the Federal Drug Control Service and the Federal Migration Service become a part, the interaction should improve, I hope. Wait and see. As far as I understand, the name "BB" will no longer be?
    2. opus
      opus April 5 2016 21: 52
      +3
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      All new.

      Yes, on one change of signs, certificates, uniforms, insignia, BILLIONAIRE will become (someone, but not me belay )
      This is not for you
      Militia
      MILICY
      POLICE

      This is cooler.
      Well, we remember the traffic police, the traffic police
  • pogis
    pogis April 5 2016 20: 26
    +2
    Well, while I was pondering the President’s decision on ambulance, bang here! As I understand it, the cops and VVshnikov will not have SPN anymore? THE CARDIOVSCHINA WILL RETURN? Absolutely disagree! And then pi. pi. pi .....
    1. Duyv
      Duyv April 5 2016 22: 15
      0
      On the contrary, they simply finish, finally, their unification, with the removal of functions unusual for them. Since 2001, as far as I remember, the national guard is being created precisely for these purposes.
  • Gregazov
    Gregazov April 5 2016 20: 27
    0
    Dear Colleagues! I think everything is much simpler. The president needs an army under direct control to solve external problems and a national guard for internal ones. Probably the police-police reform did not bring the expected results. And there is no proper control over the police. The situation with our "friends" is not being inflated in a childish way. Hence, a security agency is needed to replace the KGB, and this is the nat. guard in a new way.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn April 5 2016 20: 47
      +6
      KGB replaces FSB
      1. Gregazov
        Gregazov April 5 2016 21: 00
        +1
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        KGB replaces FSB

        The FSB is a miserable shadow of the KGB. In 1995 in the city of Azov, Rostov Region (population 80000) there were only two FSB officers who were placed on the top floor of the air traffic control department. The toilet was broken and their police did not let the toilet into their toilet. Well, it's figurative. And according to the facts, the FSO is also part of the KGB, and there was also its own special communications and very different intelligence services. In general, the clever will remain silent, but the other will not notice. It is now very difficult to revive the structure of the KGB directly, but with such small steps in the right direction it is very necessary.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn April 5 2016 21: 57
          +3
          Quote: GregAzov
          It is now very difficult to revive the structure of the KGB directly, but with such small steps in the right direction it is very necessary.

          the National Guard is internal troops - what relation do they have to the KGB with a potential relationship? The direct text says, riot police, sobr and so on will be organized in one structure. Although under the USSR they quite successfully existed and did not belong to the KGB.
    2. 34 region
      34 region April 5 2016 20: 55
      +10
      Gregazov! 20.27. And why the National Guard? Guards badge like for the differences in the battles. And here? In the Union there were GB security forces. In my opinion it is more suitable for such purposes. And so it turns out stupid Americanization. And names, and forms, and symbols. It’s unpleasant as that’s all.
      1. Gregazov
        Gregazov April 5 2016 21: 06
        +2
        Quote: 34 region
        Gregazov! 20.27. And why the National Guard?

        Here I can only guess. As version: Nat. There are guards in many countries and such a phrase will not cause big questions for "partners". But the term "State. Security" immediately attracts close attention.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 5 2016 21: 16
          -3
          Quote: GregAzov
          Here I can only guess. As version: Nat. There are guards in many countries and such a phrase will not cause big questions for "partners"

          This type of Obama asks, and what kind of pol. In the form. and to him - this is a national guard.
          Obama - EU, I have to know what it is. good
          Quote: GregAzov
          But the term "State. Security" immediately attracts close attention.
          1. Gregazov
            Gregazov April 5 2016 21: 25
            +3
            Not so long ago, "partners" argued that our planes do not fly and ships do not leave ports. They even laughed at the Aerospace Forces group in Syria that they fly too often and the resource is not enough. Therefore, not all of them know about us and it is not worth to dissuade them from this.
      2. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka April 6 2016 00: 14
        +1
        And why the National Guard? Guards badge like for the differences in the battles. And here? In the Union there were GB security forces. In my opinion it is more suitable for such purposes. And so it turns out stupid Americanization. And names, and forms, and symbols. It’s unpleasant as that’s all.

        very unpleasant! the word Guard itself is leveled, is it really incomprehensible that wherever the national guards are called in other countries, we have a completely different perception of the word itself! Just like a policeman will be in tune with a policeman ... Each country has its own characteristics and what we put into the word "guard" is completely incomprehensible to the Americans! it is like a translated word - conveys the meaning, but not the essence of the significance of this word for the people! hi
  • nachtRitter
    nachtRitter April 5 2016 20: 27
    0
    VV was the last major power structure, which was subordinate not to the President, but to the Government ...
    the rest are too small against the background of the army and explosives
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 5 2016 20: 41
      +6
      The explosives were part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, like the Moscow Region, the FSB, the Ministry of Emergencies, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, reports directly to the President.
      1. nachtRitter
        nachtRitter April 5 2016 21: 22
        0
        there was a layer in the form of the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Direct subordination to the President - great mobility and reaction speed of the structure. Higher status and authority. So to speak, "the extra link of the deaf telephone" was removed
  • Gardener91
    Gardener91 April 5 2016 20: 31
    -3
    A new power structure, an extra burden on the budget and taxpayers. They are more visible there. While I trust the moon-faced man.
  • Dikson
    Dikson April 5 2016 20: 31
    -1
    Again redistribution .. ((The guard will be on a national basis, or what? In the same Chechnya there was already a precedent with the security forces .. Will they sew a shape for them, or they will find a new couturier? The new structure will weaken the existing ones .. And then, work it out again interaction, communications, .. And weapons .. - helicopters, armored vehicles, navy .. The only plus is that the newly created structure can free the special forces to solve more serious external tasks ..
    1. Nehist
      Nehist April 5 2016 21: 54
      +6
      What special forces do you mean? The one that is subordinate to the Ministry of Defense or the one that is in the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSIN? So they have a priori different tasks and they are prepared differently. So I do not see the pluses. Most likely, the strengthening of their own power because the people are not satisfied with the horror of the internal GDP policy.
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  • Yves762
    Yves762 April 5 2016 20: 35
    +3
    what And what will this essentially be: OGPU / NKVD, KSIR or all the same SD? what
    Or more precisely, the description of the guard from the "Inhabited Island" of the Strugatsky is suitable ???? wassat
    Although ... Maybe this is a tricky plan: since you can make the old work, create a new one, saturating it with the right people; and it, the new, survives the old. ???. what
    One trouble - there is no complete confidence in those who started it ..
    1. sever.56
      sever.56 April 5 2016 21: 19
      +2
      Quote: Yves762
      "Inhabited Island" of the Strugatsky ??


      Very cute... lol
      Have you read Inhabited Island ???
      I doubt it, since you even write the last name of the authors, STRUGATSKY brothers incorrectly.
  • From Udmurtia
    From Udmurtia April 5 2016 20: 38
    +2
    Dear forum users! If you believe the President-Commander-in-Chief, then you need to believe to the end, and not by short dashes - round-trip. If it is created, then there is a need.
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 5 2016 21: 08
      -1
      But I didn’t trust him and I won’t believe
    2. owl
      owl April 5 2016 21: 34
      -1
      Quote: From Udmurtia
      If you believe the President-Commander-in-Chief

      With faith, please go to the church, and in relation to this character, another expression is more likely to be true: "By their deeds you will recognize them" and the next step is "by his deeds to judge him" smile
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 April 5 2016 21: 48
        +5
        Quote: gufo
        "By their deeds you will know them" and the next step is "by their deeds to judge him"

        And who are the judges? Name as our fiery tribune. fellow
    3. DmitryK
      DmitryK April 5 2016 21: 34
      +6
      Faithful, we must remain the oath to the motherland at any commander in chief. But we did not stop thinking and there are questions.
  • Yugra
    Yugra April 5 2016 20: 38
    -5
    I think that everything is going on as usual. The fight against organized crime is now oh so urgent. In Transbaikalia and in the Far East, thieves have crushed entire cities for themselves, young people are driving down to crime. And it’s not clear that the police would stop this. Zolotov is a specific man, it is necessary will, they will act like a "White Arrow". And the elections will soon, through our liberalism, the Westerners have not abandoned the orange muddied. So we will crush them like bedbugs ...
    1. Bashibuzuk
      Bashibuzuk April 5 2016 20: 51
      +7
      Well, here's how to evaluate - thieves crushed entire cities. Well, crushed.
      So, the local air traffic control units have completely decomposed. The prescription of treatment is the simplest, tried and tested for centuries - inspection, report - and under the white handles.
      ..
      And do you think it turns out that the National Guard will wage war against thieves?
      So what?
      In cities and on the routes, communications will arrange ambushes, raids, raids ... bring down all indiscriminately.
      Like Liquidation, right?
      ...
      On whom granite cones, cones and boulders will be strewed after such reckless deeds, guess?
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn April 5 2016 20: 51
      +8
      Do you directly think that the National Guard will be raised in the deep forests of Siberia, far from corruption? From the same VVshnikov they will be recruited. And the riot police coped with the "muddy orange" successfully. Why else is there a new burden on the budget?
      The fight against organized crime is always "oh, how relevant" and everywhere, and not only in Transbaikalia and the Far East - you just need to do this, and not invent new units. In the USSR, there were no guards - they coped like that
    3. Dikson
      Dikson April 5 2016 20: 55
      +17
      So the thieves got it, right? And where is the power? The prosecutor's office and security officials? Crushed too? )) And in the National Guard (ugh!) Then aliens will come, not local and not familiar with thieves .. And how will they start to put pressure .. Do you yourself believe in this? In my opinion, our country is getting on a war footing .. For me personally, the closest illustration of the concept of "National Guard" is Ukraine .. then - the use of units of the National Guard in the United States to restore order and pacify popular negro unrest .. and only then help the population in case of natural and technological disasters .. - well, with the latter, we seem to have a very good Emergencies Ministry .. So why do we need the National Guard? That with its creation, fighters from all over the country will stop going on business trips to the Caucasus? I doubt something .. For me, it would be better if they formed a special forces regiment .. or two ..
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null April 5 2016 20: 57
        +9
        Quote: Dikson
        black neglect

        good laughing fellow
  • junker
    junker April 5 2016 20: 47
    +3
    The word "Guard" has been devalued since Soviet times, when half of the army was "guard". It is necessary to return this word to its original meaning - the best of the best, the elite of the Armed Forces. And the ratio should be approximately 1 guard for 10 ordinary soldiers.
    I do not support renaming for the above reason. And it does not matter to which department they will be assigned or separately they will serve.
    Why not return the name - Separate gendarmes corps.
    1. vglazunov
      vglazunov April 5 2016 20: 49
      -9
      Quote: Junker
      Why not return the name - Separate Gendarmes

      Or warders, punishers and executioners of the Russian people!
    2. vglazunov
      vglazunov April 6 2016 18: 19
      -1
      Stratfor calls National Guard under Putin coup d'état

      Read more at RBC:
      http://www.rbc.ru/politics/06/04/2016/570504379a794717876a0984
  • dubovairina
    dubovairina April 5 2016 20: 48
    .
    the wife gave drops that radically improved our SEX, it became several times longer, a hundred.yak stronger, the sensations are brighter and more pleasant. And my wife is now happy and I feel great! I myself did not know and did not believe until I read this article --- us.to/macho
    1. atalef
      atalef April 5 2016 21: 02
      +3
      Quote: dubovairina
      the wife gave drops that radically improved our SEX, it became several times longer, a hundred.yak stronger, the sensations are brighter and more pleasant. And the wife is now happy and I feel great!

      In Ukraine, there is still SEX?
      Who about what, and Khokhlov about seks. laughing
      1. Gregazov
        Gregazov April 5 2016 21: 10
        +9
        They have nothing more to trade. Either seks, or tablets for seks, or a place to observe seks.
        1. opus
          opus April 6 2016 00: 02
          +5
          Quote: GregAzov
          They have nothing more to trade.

          Chernozem still remains, organs for transplantation ..
          not much, but there is so far.
    2. uragan114
      uragan114 April 5 2016 21: 25
      +1
      Quote: dubovairina
      the wife gave drops that radically improved our SEX, it became several times longer, a hundred.yak stronger, the sensations are brighter and more pleasant. And my wife is now happy and I feel great! I myself did not know and did not believe until I read this article --- us.to/macho


      Yes, you pulled up already! Soon you will get skulls on shoulder straps. It’s not necessary to drink a drop, but to tie a plump. Then everything will be stronger and brighter.
      And by the way, Dubovirin, man ??? wassat
      1. opus
        opus April 6 2016 00: 41
        -1
        Quote: uragan114
        And by the way, Dubovirin, man ???

        mutant, or rather kaklomutant

        they do not mash the floor
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS April 6 2016 00: 43
          +4
          Quote: opus
          mutant, or rather kaklomutant

          Yeperesete! I can’t watch it at night wassat
  • hartlend
    hartlend April 5 2016 20: 50
    +10
    It is logical that the Federal Drug Control Service and the Federal Migration Service left under the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they were there before and it is not clear why they allocated it. The purpose of creating the National Guard is not entirely clear, it is clear that preparation for the elections is most likely something else. The name is certainly not very.
  • Texnolog
    Texnolog April 5 2016 20: 52
    0
    ento will be SMERSH
  • Kristansen
    Kristansen April 5 2016 20: 52
    +6
    Everything is very logical. Certain figures have long begun to rock our boat. In such an environment, the loyalty of those or other leaders of power structures comes to the fore. Therefore, a structure is created that acts in parallel with the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but is headed by a person who is devoted to the board. Which shares the views of the leadership of the country, which is tested and in which there is no doubt.
    Look carefully. Now they are actively moving people from the FSO to leadership positions. FSO is Putin’s personal guard, people whom he trusts his life. In difficult situations, when the state is at stake, only such people can be trusted. If the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other structures can, to a certain extent, be under the hood of Western structures, then the FSO are the only people who can be trusted. Personal loyalty which will not let them doubt the correctness of the order.
    It has long been known that in the government, in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, etc. traitors are sitting. And in order to prevent them from destroying the country with their sabotage, a new division is being created. Just read the biography of the new head of this guard Zolotov, and everything becomes clear. We are at war, unfortunately.
    1. Nehist
      Nehist April 5 2016 22: 03
      +4
      Sorry, and with what side the former 9th FSO will solve the problems of combating the same organized crime or terrorism? They have completely different tasks and different training.
    2. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS April 6 2016 00: 18
      +3
      Quote: Kristansen
      In such an environment, devotion comes to the fore

      Since the 91st, we have personal devotion. First, pieces of the country to be torn to pieces by personal homies, and then protect the wrung out with
      Quote: Kristansen
      those or other heads of power structures. Therefore, a structure is created that acts in parallel with the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but is headed by a person who is devoted to the board. Which shares the views of the leadership of the country, which is tested and in which there is no doubt.
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 April 6 2016 00: 37
      +1
      It does not bother people to search for hail. lol But the fact that the Ministry of Internal Affairs needs to be cleaned is a fact and the fact that the security forces that are not related to the operational work of the local chiefs of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and officials directly subordinate to Moscow personally seems to me sensible. There are different guberas, and national issues also arise from time to time and the Ministry of Internal Affairs needs to be cleaned as well, as the army was cleaned up in due time, and for this we need force in the regions subordinated to the center. Of course I don’t like the name at all - taken clearly in the likeness of other countries, but to hell with it. I think, by the way, when creating ng, the security forces will also be cleaned up, getting rid of muddy personalities. Many renaming and reorganization is actually just an excuse for cleansing, to unhook suspicious comrades during the reorganization in the process. hi
  • deman73
    deman73 April 5 2016 20: 53
    +2
    the right decision that is long overdue
  • Cartalon
    Cartalon April 5 2016 20: 55
    +13
    The National Guard, by definition, is something like a militia, but what is intended is the gendarmerie.
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov April 5 2016 21: 16
      0
      Quote: Cartalon
      The National Guard, by definition, is something like a militia, but what is intended is the gendarmerie.

      The gendarmerie is the police for the military.
      1. owl
        owl April 5 2016 21: 36
        -6
        Quote: GregAzov
        The gendarmerie is the police for the military.

        Will there be any objections against the "Police"?
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 5 2016 21: 44
        0
        In each country, everything is arranged in its own way. In France, for example, the gendarmerie formally enters the Armed Forces, but is actually under the operational subordination of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    2. Nehist
      Nehist April 5 2016 22: 04
      +4
      Yes, it looks more like an oprichnina !!! Or the SS troops, too, they only swore allegiance to the Fuhrer
    3. Victorio
      Victorio April 5 2016 22: 25
      +1
      Quote: Cartalon
      The National Guard, by definition, is something like a militia, but what is intended is gendarmerie.

      ====
      the way it is. centuries, in fact, performed the general functions of the gendarmerie. the word did not appeal, so they decided to call the National Guard. maybe it’s worth looking for a suitable name
  • Damask
    Damask April 5 2016 21: 01
    0
    I can’t judge at the expense of the national army, maybe it’s right that everything is under one wing, but the liquidation of the Federal Migration Service and Federal Drug Control Service and their transfer again under the bosom of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
  • raketnik
    raketnik April 5 2016 21: 03
    +4
    Separate Red Banner Orders of Lenin and the October Revolution Special Motorized Rifle Division named after F.E. Dzerzhinsky of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR (OMSDON). Elite union of internal troops ---- and how will it now ??????? SORRY BUT POLICE first, and now also the NATIONAL GUARD ?????? ========== WE HAVE MANY NATIONALITIES !!!!!!!
    1. Muvka
      Muvka April 5 2016 21: 11
      +3
      And what is written in the passport of every citizen of the Russian Federation? Everything seems to be the same there.
      1. Nikolay82
        Nikolay82 April 6 2016 01: 47
        +2
        in the USSR, too, everything seemed to be equal. However, only Russians and Ukrainians served in the OMSDON (officers were of other nationalities). The recruitment was from certain areas of the USSR and the RSFSR. A year before the service, we knew where we were going to serve, we had to fill out several questionnaires with a check by the KGB. In the case of an emergency, each unit overlapped its area in Moscow. 1 regiment, the special operations forces, 5 regiment, 9 URSN in the case of an emergency had their own tasks. Protection of the Central Committee of the CPSU and especially important state institutions, objects together with the structures of the KGB.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 5 2016 21: 05
    +7
    Usually, such parallel structures are created when there is no confidence in the loyalty of any Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB, etc. The loyalty of the latter can only be challenged by oligarchs. Our ONF, "ours" and others tried to scare the pro-Western and simply thieves "business geniuses". Now, instead of the failed domestic huweibins, it seems, an analogue of the "commission for combating sabotage and counter-revolution was needed. ... The name itself suggests the slogan" Fatherland is in danger " ...

    P.S. I would like to hope that this decision of the Guarantor is not from the area of ​​failed appeals to the people in the spring of 2014 or an anecdote "about three envelopes".
  • 4ekist
    4ekist April 5 2016 21: 06
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Of the National Guard of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation .And this applause I applaud standing !!! Minus to ...
    From the first seconds it was necessary to create Russia after the USSR NATIONAL GUARD to create !!!
    Riot police and SOBR is a division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (bandits smash !!). And the national guard for the prompt resolution of social threats within the country. And do not scream about this!

    The main thing is that this is good. The change of police to the police have already survived.
    1. Infernal man
      Infernal man April 6 2016 04: 10
      -1
      Renamed, yes. It stuck, no. As they were "cops" of the common people - and remained. I can’t call them police, for the life of me - I say “militia”, “militiaman”, “militia”, etc.
      Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I am waiting for the introduction of new ranks in the Armed Forces - Pan cornet, Signor Carabinier, Sir Warrant Officer and other Western words. According to the plan of "effective managers" foreign words and forms increase the level of training and combat readiness automatically.
  • bloh1
    bloh1 April 5 2016 21: 11
    0
    very worthy person
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  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. April 5 2016 21: 12
    +3
    Of course, it's not about the name. For my taste they could be called like "federal guard". The main president is transferring the internal troops under his command. Recently, they talked about the opposition to hybrid technologies at the state level (in the Security Council chtoli). Apparently this is one of the solutions. The only thing where they are moved depends on who the central government is. Although the people themselves sometimes contribute to the collapse of the state, to be honest. Especially if he is driven to hysteria with lies and false goals.
    1. DmitryK
      DmitryK April 5 2016 21: 42
      0
      Have these Internal Troops not been subordinate to the President to this day? The Minister of the Interior was and remains directly subordinate to the President.
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. April 5 2016 22: 16
        0
        It seems that way, but in Kiev, at some link in the vertical, orders hung in the air.
  • sabakina
    sabakina April 5 2016 21: 13
    +2
    I have long wanted to write. Since a certain time, for me the abbreviation "Buk-M" has caused something dirty and vile, although the technique itself has nothing to do with it (Ukrainians have tried). Now the National Guard ... (here "the National Battalions tried.) It's a pity, I won't hear the opinion of my father, the guard of the senior warrant officer of the 331 Airborne Forces of the PDP ...
  • raid14
    raid14 April 5 2016 21: 14
    0
    "For one beaten, two unbeaten give." What, the FMS and the Federal Drug Control Service did not like that they were being reorganized and put into the staff of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and a separate Federal Service of direct subordination was made from the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    The reorganization of such government agencies not Khukhra, Mukhra (the withdrawal of the staff, the replacement of uniforms, staffing, documentation, etc.) is a significant waste from the already surplus budget.
    1. DmitryK
      DmitryK April 5 2016 21: 46
      0
      FMS and Fskn did not cope with the tasks assigned to them and can not cope.
      1. raid14
        raid14 April 5 2016 21: 55
        +1
        Fk? That is, until today, they did not cope separately, but will they cope within the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs? Then why were they even created, kept, "for Christ's sake" or what?
        1. Duyv
          Duyv April 5 2016 22: 37
          0
          While they were in the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they coped more effectively.
  • Olegater
    Olegater April 5 2016 21: 16
    +1
    The main thing is that during reorganization, grabbers and bribe takers would not come to power again. The FSKN was formerly called OBNON (a department or department for combating drug trafficking). And the creation of the guard is most likely the gathering of power structures under one command - that means there will be no confusion and vacillation.
    1. raid14
      raid14 April 5 2016 21: 28
      +1
      FSKN was formed from the FSNP that had existed from 1992 to 2003.
  • S-17
    S-17 April 5 2016 21: 17
    -1
    "The creation of an effective security department is a big plus, but won't it turn out that in connection with the well-known events and armed formations in Ukraine, the very term" National Guard "will be perceived in Russia with a certain caution?"

    About the police during the renaming to the police, too, there were such scarecrows, and nothing - everything is fine
  • Concealer
    Concealer April 5 2016 21: 17
    +1
    It seems to me alone that this "national guard" is created for "protection"?
    The word "guard" immediately evokes memories of the order in which the Russian empresses came to power. :))))))))
    Who has any associations? :))))))
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    2. clidon
      clidon April 5 2016 21: 27
      +3
      I have one association - about the head of this formation, one of the darkest personalities of the Russian government, the former head of Sobchak’s security, stands up.
  • vladyka
    vladyka April 5 2016 21: 18
    0
    The guard of the Kostolom interceptors reflects the essence more, but it sounds like a threat, and therefore a national one.
    Rational decision. The fewer rooms, the more order.
  • VIT101
    VIT101 April 5 2016 21: 24
    +4
    After reading such clever innovations, you are simply amazed, and who composed all this. Continuous contradictions:
    “... of a new formation within the Ministry of Internal Affairs - the National Guard.”
    And at the same time:
    "... will be engaged in the fight against terrorism, the fight against organized crime, in close contact with the Ministry of the Interior." And the new commander himself seems to be locked in on the president. But what about "as part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs"?
    And then the explosives themselves remain, or all of them also become nat. guard? Some questions. Apparently, the tops themselves can not figure out who obeys whom.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 5 2016 21: 33
      -4
      Quote: VIT101
      After reading such clever innovations, you are simply amazed, and who composed all this. Continuous contradictions:
      “... of a new formation within the Ministry of Internal Affairs - the National Guard.”
      And at the same time:
      "... will be engaged in the fight against terrorism, the fight against organized crime, in close contact with the Ministry of the Interior." And the new commander himself seems to be locked in on the president. But what about "as part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs"?

      Later, the press secretary of the head of state, Dmitry Peskov, was asked by journalists whether the decree on the creation of the National Guard was connected with the fact that Russia had to go through an electoral period: first parliamentary elections, and then presidential ones. “I have practically answered this question with the word 'no',” Peskov said.

      ПAt the same time, he admitted that the National Guard could be involved in suppressing illegal protests. "Illegal, we can assume that of course," - said Peskov. He added that now he will be responsible for the order at the protests "including (the National Guard), since the decree says: participation, together with the internal affairs bodies in the protection of public order "
      1. Muvka
        Muvka April 5 2016 21: 42
        0
        And what do you dislike? Should he deny it? Then it really would look weird.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 5 2016 21: 49
      +2
      Everything is written in the Decree. Not part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Instead of explosives. It will include a number of other structures that were not part of the explosives. Apparently, at the same time, riot police and SOBRs will be part of the National Guard, but will be promptly subordinated to the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    3. djsa1
      djsa1 April 5 2016 21: 54
      0
      Every day, they raise excise taxes, or make aircraft models to register, or they make a soda tax, now it’s harmful to drink, now the National Guard is coming up with these sore brains tomorrow I'm afraid to even guess)
  • tolancop
    tolancop April 5 2016 21: 27
    0
    Quote: Sergej1972
    The explosives were part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, like the Moscow Region, the FSB, the Ministry of Emergencies, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, reports directly to the President.

    Ministries (ministers) are part of the government, therefore they are subordinate to whom? Prime Minister (well, or double subordination). The Foreign Ministry is a bit apart, since foreign policy is under the authority of the President. FSB, FSKN, FSO - in the direct subordination of the President. At one time, the FSNP (Tax Police) was directly subordinate to the President. They even had a joke in the direction of the police: "We are the Office of the King .. (President), and you are the Office of the Cardinal (Minister) .."
  • vital.33
    vital.33 April 5 2016 21: 33
    +3
    Logically, the State Duma should adopt what thread "the law on the National Guard", which will indicate the principles of work, application, etc. And most importantly, SUBMISSION !!!. Then it will definitely be clear for what, and to whom, and why ... As I understand it, the BB is simply renamed, and reassigned to the president directly ...
    1. KnightRider
      KnightRider April 5 2016 22: 03
      +1
      Quote: vital.33
      Logically, the State Duma should adopt what thread "the law on the National Guard", which will indicate the principles of work, application, etc. And most importantly, SUBMISSION !!!. Then it will definitely be clear for what, and to whom, and why ... As I understand it, the BB is simply renamed, and reassigned to the president directly ...

      And he will be adopted http://ria.ru/politics/20160405/1403004999.html
  • hohkn
    hohkn April 5 2016 21: 45
    +4
    Quote: weksha50
    It is necessary to carefully read what the National Guard is being created for ... Yes, to solve the same problems that the riot police and the Special Operations Brigade had solved before ...

    I don't like this business. All the power component is removed from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, leaving "no teeth". And about "solving the same problems" I have great doubts. When SOBR was an integral part of the Organized Crime Control Department, it was much easier to use it. The decision was taken by the head of the Organized Crime Control Department. Now the decision "on the use of forces and means" is made by the head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the subject or his deputy-chief of police. The efficiency of SOBR and OMON engagement has become much worse. And what will happen when the police and SOBR-OMON are structurally included in completely different departments?

    Full text of the Decree: http://kremlin.ru/acts/news/51648
  • gendir.grifon
    gendir.grifon April 5 2016 21: 48
    +7
    What kind of crap? They renamed the police to the police, they spoke a lot and increased professionalism, it turned out w ... but some. I myself am a senior pensioner, I often communicate with the current police officers. In a significant part of the population, the word police is associated in German or tsarist police, the same garbage with the National Guard. Naivnyaki sacredly believe that by copying American words, work efficiency will increase. But on the other hand, no one has canceled the old Roman principle - divide and conquer.
  • tolancop
    tolancop April 5 2016 21: 49
    +4
    The creation of the FMS has always been puzzling. Certification, registration of citizens, etc. the matter is so internal that there is nowhere to go. And the return "to the origins" is more than logical.
    With the FSKN it is somewhat more complicated. The office was created to counteract the large drug business. A task that the Ministry of Internal Affairs clearly did not manage. The FSKN, objectively speaking, did not win. And hardly could. But it is also impossible to say that the case was ruined. In any case, the results were real and more than significant. It is possible that there is a sense in joining the Federal Drug Control Service to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but problems are possible .. As always, a part of strong proffies will remain "overboard" (who retire, someone simply will not get into the Ministry of Internal Affairs, "they will have to be out of court"). It’s already bad .... Some of the "outbound men" will go into crime, alas ... The FSKN leadership of various levels of the Ministry of Internal Affairs somehow needlessly, their own people have nowhere to go ... And about auxiliary units (logisticians, financiers) and even more so in the Ministry of Internal Affairs are not needed, with rare exceptions. Including, I believe, the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be transferred mainly to operational personnel. It seems to be not bad, but the problems will not end there. As a result of a heap of reorganizations in the Ministry of Internal Affairs on earth, the people are already overloaded beyond measure, the Labor Code is resting. Until now, the personnel of the Federal Drug Control Service were somehow not involved in reinforcements and other non-core activities. The Interior Ministry will probably be. To the detriment of the main activity. Heavy thoughts ...
  • Maximars
    Maximars April 5 2016 21: 50
    +14
    Yeah, the National Guard to fight organized crime groups. Well, after all, obviously, just before the elections, it was created to fight the anger of already nourished noodles of ordinary citizens, and not by oligarchs and gypsies from the Tambov region.
    1. Million
      Million April 5 2016 22: 21
      +2
      From the Tula region, gypsies with whom the authorities have not resolved the problem
  • serg2108
    serg2108 April 5 2016 21: 58
    +5
    well, I’m probably not writing anything new, but the news surprised me and at the same time they were probably waiting for it from 2012-2013 in the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation everyone was waiting for this decision ... taking into account the above, many users will add from myself that Mr. Zolotov is the former guard of comrade Putin, probably those who is interested in the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs KNOWS, and now the creation of this executive body is probably understandable to everyone (Putin) and the guarantee of internal security (Zolotov) now directly reports to the president, it is not clear at all why such movements inside the power structures before the elections. The explanations above the authors have already indicated and I think here, all this taken together ... and now the internal troops - the guard will become an even more corrupt structural unit, and even before that they didn’t do anything and now they will eat up the money allocated by the state in vain (exception participation in Caucasian companies) am
  • KnightRider
    KnightRider April 5 2016 22: 06
    0
    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree abolishing the Federal Drug Control Service of the Russian Federation (FSKN) and the Federal Migration Service (FMS). According to the Kremlin’s press service, the staff of these services is transferred to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. At the same time, the staffing of the FMS is reduced by a third. In the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the former abolished services will be called General Directorate for Migration и General Directorate for Drug Control.

    More on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/politika/3179300
  • KnightRider
    KnightRider April 5 2016 22: 08
    +1
    Tasks of the National Guard
    a) participation, together with the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation, in protecting public order, ensuring public safety and the state of emergency;
    b) participation in the fight against terrorism and in ensuring the legal regime of the counter-terrorism operation;
    c) participation in the fight against extremism;
    d) participation in the territorial defense of the Russian Federation;
    e) the protection of important state facilities and special cargoes in accordance with the list approved by the Government of the Russian Federation;
    f) assisting the border authorities of the federal security service in protecting the state border of the Russian Federation;
    g) the implementation of federal state control (supervision) over compliance with the legislation of the Russian Federation in the field of arms trafficking and in the field of private security activities, as well as the implementation of private security.
  • eskela
    eskela April 5 2016 22: 08
    +10
    Now they will paint me in red, but I’ll say ... damn it, after the National Guard was created in Ukraine - it’s now
    associated with the fascist cattle, they would reorganize, and the name can be left the same ... no worse
    1. Military Builder
      Military Builder April 6 2016 05: 24
      0
      the police renamed the police Nitsche survived, although they also first talked about the assassination with the policemen of the Second World War