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Armenian Defense Ministry announces destruction of Azerbaijani installations TOC-1A

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In the Karabakh conflict zone, Azerbaijanis for the first time used the “Sunpine” heavy flamethrowers, reports Messenger of Mordovia with reference to the press secretary of the Armenian Defense Minister Artsrun Hovhannisyan.




At the end of the message, which Hovhannisyan posted on Facebook, it is noted that, to date, “the flame-throwing systems TOC-1A of the Azerbaijani army have already been destroyed.”

What are the consequences of the use of "Suns", and how many installations were destroyed, the message does not indicate.

Information from independent sources about this has not yet been received.

The fact that Azerbaijan purchased 6 flamethrower systems became known in 2013. “These installations differed from similar Russian machines in that they were mounted on a chassis tank T-90A with an engine power of 1000 hp, ”the publication notes.

The unit has 24 guides for missiles, firing range - 6 km.
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  1. Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 5 2016 16: 40
    -30%
    I more believe that this installation destroyed 100 Armenian military before it was covered.
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall April 5 2016 16: 42
      +25
      They conspired, declared annihilated and sold to the Turks.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 5 2016 16: 44
        0
        It is useless without ammunition.
        1. cniza
          cniza April 5 2016 16: 51
          +30
          It is very difficult to determine the degree of reliability of information on both sides, it is necessary to end the hot phase and negotiate, to agree.
          1. hrych
            hrych April 5 2016 17: 13
            +53
            The main disadvantage of "Buratino" and a little less "Solntsepek" is its short range. Moreover, the second distinguishes from the first in terms of range safety from the use of hand-held ATGMs, but other artillery means cover them without problems. This is a specific weapon of close combat, which is why this MLRS has armor protection and a tank base. I am afraid the Azerbaijanis have no experience of using it and the loss does not look fantastic.
            1. Havoc
              Havoc April 5 2016 17: 55
              +6
              Quote: hrych
              The main disadvantage of "Buratino" and a little less "Solntsepek" is its short range. Moreover, the second distinguishes from the first in terms of range safety from the use of hand-held ATGMs, but other artillery means cover them without problems. This is a specific weapon of close combat, which is why this MLRS has armor protection and a tank base. I am afraid the Azerbaijanis have no experience of using it and the loss does not look fantastic.


              In fact, these systems are not exactly weapons of the battlefield, initially, until recently, they were only armed with chemical forces, and were intended to deactivate the area. For these tasks, the range was enough.
              1. hrych
                hrych April 5 2016 18: 12
                +9
                Quote: Havoc
                were only armed with chemical forces, and were intended to deactivate the area.

                This is one of the applications, and according to the tradition, Pinocchio was tested in Afghanistan, successfully used in Chechnya, and Solntsepek was tested in Syria against barmales.
              2. Firstvanguard
                Firstvanguard April 5 2016 18: 33
                +14
                Quote: Havoc


                In fact, these systems are not exactly weapons of the battlefield, initially, until recently, they were only armed with chemical forces, and were intended to deactivate the area. For these tasks, the range was enough.

                As well as disinfection, disinsection, disinfestation, deradicalization and just heating wassat
                1. dmi.pris
                  dmi.pris April 5 2016 20: 07
                  +2
                  It's like a 250-watt bulb, which is prohibited for sale. But they are sold as a lighting fixture with a heating function .. Sorry, that’s not the topic ..
                  Quote: Firstvanguard
                  Quote: Havoc


                  In fact, these systems are not exactly weapons of the battlefield, initially, until recently, they were only armed with chemical forces, and were intended to deactivate the area. For these tasks, the range was enough.

                  As well as disinfection, disinsection, disinfestation, deradicalization and just heating wassat
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        3. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ April 5 2016 16: 53
          +13
          I can say that I do not advocate for those not for these.
          The Russian Federation does not need an escalation of the conflict in this region.
          It is clear that Armenia is a member of the CSTO. But ultimately, in the event of a conflict, Russia will have to separate the warring parties.
          I have little idea of ​​the situation in which Russia will bomb say Azerbaijan.
          Therefore, it will most likely act as a peacemaker. And the status of a member of the CSTO for Armenia is a burden on the Azerbaijani side from excessive abuse of the use of force.
          1. hrych
            hrych April 5 2016 17: 05
            +17
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            I have little idea of ​​the situation in which Russia will bomb say Azerbaijan.

            Oh, oh, but Orthodox Georgians were not bombed. It's time to get out of the concepts of international heresy. Here the Ukrainian "brothers" have shown themselves in full. There will be a need for videoconferencing, even though Baku, even Tiflis ...
            1. Kent0001
              Kent0001 April 5 2016 17: 14
              +7
              Tiflis .... liked it. The name of the time of the Russian Empire.
            2. sgazeev
              sgazeev April 5 2016 17: 27
              +3
              Quote: hrych
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              I have little idea of ​​the situation in which Russia will bomb say Azerbaijan.

              Oh, oh, but Orthodox Georgians were not bombed. It's time to get out of the concepts of international heresy. Here the Ukrainian "brothers" have shown themselves in full. There will be a need for videoconferencing, even though Baku, even Tiflis ...

              To begin with, to catch Erdogan instructors, an Azerbaijani soldier is not a soldier and everything will die out.
            3. _Vladislav_
              _Vladislav_ April 5 2016 17: 48
              +7
              Quote: hrych
              There will be a need for the VKS to smash at least Baku, at least Tiflis ...

              It would be better if there was no such need.
              Letters with Azerbaijan are measured incorrectly.
              It is clear that Russia is stronger.

              PS
              There will be a need to press the red button. But it would be better if such a need did not arise, that's what I’m talking about. But any conflict - even local it is the victim, on both sides. Somehow in Georgia 08.08.08. as in Syria.
              Local conflicts around the perimeter of the Russian border are not good.
              1. hrych
                hrych April 5 2016 17: 56
                +3
                Quote: _Vladislav_
                Letters with Azerbaijan are measured incorrectly.

                So don't let your shake laughing
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak April 5 2016 18: 48
            +9
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            It’s clear that Armenia is a member

            Dear, Azerbaijan is not fighting against Armenia as such. About 7 kilometers are from the border of Nagorno-Karabakh in the nearest place to Armenia. The war is going on with the so-called Karabakh army, but the fact that the Armenian army also stands on its side is its own business. The fighting goes beyond the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh and not for the territory of Armenia. Understand, finally.
            1. Otshelnik
              Otshelnik April 5 2016 19: 10
              +1
              It’s hard to understand such stupidity ... the brains must fly down too long)
        4. Mitek
          Mitek April 5 2016 17: 10
          +2
          Yes, if you believe that the Armenians and the Azerbaijanis, they almost destroyed all the armies of the world almost three times. No photos? Without pictures like the great ukrov, the entire army of the Russian Federation was cut out.
      2. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR April 5 2016 17: 29
        +9
        Azerbaijan is not our friend and not ally, like many of my friends I have many good friends of Azerbaijanis, but as you recall the Russian massacre in the early 90s, it’s better not to jump.
        1. gur4enk
          gur4enk April 5 2016 18: 42
          +1
          But many Russians in the early 90s fought in the Karabakh conflict on the side of Azerbaijan, for example, Colonel General Shamanov and did not even think about the massacre.
        2. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik April 5 2016 19: 14
          +5
          Say the massacre ... well, the answer is, since Russians were cut in Baku, so where did so many Russians come from now in Baku? And another question, where are those Russians who lived in Yerevan? We need the gate skillfully, we live in the 21st century ... google to help ...
          1. garnik64
            garnik64 April 5 2016 21: 17
            +2
            www.rus-obr.ru/tags/genotsid
            It was out of the ball, otherwise .....
            The last Russians and Armenians, the Turks at the beginning of the 20s were slaughtered before the eyes of the 11th Red Army .. There have never been many Russians in Armenia. There are 40 Yezidis, Assyrians. The Russians and the Armenians were where the natives had to be educated. This is Azerbaijan , Turkmenistan, etc.
          2. INVESTOR
            INVESTOR April 6 2016 06: 07
            0
            Relatives close were born in Baku, and barely carried away on our military aircraft, passing through the cordon to take off, the Azerbaijanis took away all valuables. About the fact that now there are many Russians in Baku, ducks and in Chechnya there are many now, so much water has flowed. Maybe in Baku it was not as large as in Grozny, but it was.
        3. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak April 5 2016 20: 56
          +4
          Quote: INVESTOR
          massacre of Russians in the early 90s

          I hope that you personally saw this "massacre of Russians" and barely got away with it.
          The day before yesterday, he said on the site that I was Russian, was born in Baku, moved to Russia in 1991. As a refugee, none of my family was registered. Although they could. And if there were a certain number of victims among the Armenians from January 13 to 16, 1990, then nobody touched the Russians these days, and later. Yes, by mistake they knocked on the door, but when they saw the Russians, they apologized and left.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 09
            +3
            Quote: Hedgehog
            s. And if there were a certain number of victims among the Armenians from January 13 to 16, 1990, then nobody touched the Russians these days, and later.

            It’s useless. You were cut there. It was just that everyone miraculously resurrected and still live in Baku and beyond))
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak April 5 2016 21: 45
              +2
              Quote: Yeraz
              They just all miraculously resurrected and still live

              There was a dumb knife, panimische.
          2. garnik64
            garnik64 April 5 2016 22: 12
            0
            [quote = Hedgehog] [quote = INVESTOR] massacre of Russians in the early 90s [/ quote]
            I hope that you personally saw this "massacre of Russians" and barely got away with it.
            The day before yesterday he said on the site that I was Russian, was born
            [quote = Hedgehog] [quote = INVESTOR] massacre of Russians in the beginning
            The day before yesterday, he said on the site that I was Russian, was born in Baku, moved to Russia in 1991. As a refugee, none of my family was registered. Although they could. And if there were a certain number of victims among the Armenians from January 13 to 16, 1990, then nobody touched the Russians these days, and later. Yes, by mistake they knocked on the door, but when they saw the Russians, they apologized and left. [/ Quote]
            They also forgot and bowed, especially after January 20. Go to the Internet.
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak April 6 2016 10: 39
              +2
              Quote: garnik64
              garnik64

              Better tell those around you how the population of Armenia relates to the Baku Armenians, who were born there in Baku. Personally, I know a family in which my husband has not been able to find a decent job for more than 25 years. Only "senior, where they will send" and nothing more.
              Or are you a descendant of the Jews from the missing 10th tribe? You look very similar to the Jewish hutspu.
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    3. Alexez
      Alexez April 5 2016 16: 42
      +1
      Well, if the Armenians do not have such losses, it means that they nevertheless were covered with preemptive fire.
      1. rubidiy
        rubidiy April 5 2016 17: 05
        +4
        Quote: Alexez
        Well, if the Armenians do not have such losses, it means that they nevertheless were covered with preemptive fire.

        The military commissar of Russia Today Murad Gazdiev, who is now in Nagorno-Karabakh, reported about 5 dead volunteers, who were allegedly covered by the TOS in one gulp. Information unverified.
        1. garnik64
          garnik64 April 5 2016 18: 12
          -1
          This is the work of a combat UAV.
        2. Xent
          Xent April 5 2016 21: 59
          +1
          UAVs covered the volunteers, and TOS-1 in this area simply can’t fulfill the tasks, after the first salvo they immediately covered because it was too close to the first line, and there our UAVs, which correct the artillery fire, immediately found the place and the rest of the matter not difficult.
    4. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN April 5 2016 16: 43
      +1
      Well, there was a sun and there is no .... (there are still tanks, about 80 pieces left .. in the parade that rode ..) We will wait! hi
      1. Pirogov
        Pirogov April 5 2016 16: 47
        +6
        You should not think so in Azerbaijan a lot of new technology, and what will you expect? Have fun when people are dying?
        1. jovanni
          jovanni April 5 2016 19: 06
          +13
          Yes. It's all very sad. And here's what I remembered ... The end of the eighties. Night, winter, taiga, 120 km to the Arctic Circle. VV MVD. If someone does not know, these are 20 percent l / s Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians combined. A little Moldovan, a lot of guys from the Caucasus and from the Caucasus. Many from Central Asia. We, the branch of the young, sit and peel potatoes. We need to clean the bath, about a battalion. Let's clean it up faster - let's go to sleep faster. And then something word for word, an Azerbaijani with an Armenian caught on. I don't remember how it all started, but they started yelling at each other. In their own languages, but apparently they understood each other. Again, swearing in Russian. And the people gathered in the department are also different by nationality. They haven't got used to it yet, they don't really understand each other. Many eyes goggle like in a circus. They didn't even know that there were such "hot guys" before the army ... These two, let's grab the knives, well, they used to peel potatoes. It's good that my sidekick and I from the North Caucasus and two guys from Rostov were. They knew how to behave with these eagles. In short, after a couple of minutes one with a fingal was sitting on the cleanings, the other had to be poked a little into a bath with potatoes to cool down. Well, they certainly didn't become friends, but somehow they tolerated each other. They didn't rush anymore. Tellingly, both were not bad men by themselves.
          And now there is such a situation that if there is no one who does not abruptly and quickly put both "warriors" on the ass, the trouble may be ... And looking at this is sick ...
          1. Awaz
            Awaz April 5 2016 19: 48
            +1
            the topic there is not very simple. But the main culprit is Turkey. Azerbaijanis as a people do not exist in nature. They united there (if we discard some points) just under the Turkish leadership. The Armenians have very difficult relations with the Turks. They may not like Russians either, but only Russians have saved and are saving them from being cut out. Well, do not forget that a third of Turkey is the territory of Armenia. Well, to be honest, the Armenians started to fight with the Azerbaijanis. Under the tsar, they coexisted quite peacefully, but after the collapse of the empire and the active complicity of the Baku authorities in the Turkish "projects", they caused not a weak negative reaction from the Armenian diaspora. And then it went and went. Right now, of course, it is difficult to establish who brewed everything there, but as far as it seems to me, it started with the Armenians. There used to be a lot of them in Baku.
      2. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik April 5 2016 19: 16
        +1
        The joy is premature, soon there will be facts about how many have exterminated from whom.
    5. Velizariy
      Velizariy April 5 2016 16: 43
      0
      Well, it is not necessary ... to destroy this device is possible not only in response, they could simply "incorrectly" use it, in front of, so to speak, a stunned enemy.
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 5 2016 16: 45
      +8
      Quote: Vadim237
      I more believe that this installation destroyed 100 Armenian military before it was covered.

      Well, there are 26 missing Armenian soldiers.

      Officially, the Karabakh army lost: 7 tanks, 20 killed soldiers and 72 wounded officers and soldiers and 26 missing soldiers.

      And this is the loss of Azerbaijan according to the Armenian side
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 5 2016 16: 51
        +1
        Guys see well their losses are underestimated.
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother April 5 2016 18: 11
        +6
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And this is the loss of Azerbaijan according to the Armenian side

        Nobody thinks of these.
        1. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik April 5 2016 19: 23
          -3
          )) this was our UAV of the killed Armenians) People wait a few days, everything will become clear.
        2. Your friend
          Your friend April 5 2016 19: 25
          0
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Nobody thinks of these.

          How do Armenians or Azerbaijanis define it?
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother April 5 2016 19: 54
            0
            Quote: Your friend
            How do Armenians or Azerbaijanis define it?

            I rely on an authoritative source.
            http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/
            The colonel was not noticed in the mess, and he covers the conflicts fairly impartially.
            If he writes that these are Azerbaijanis, then that is the way it is. He posted a lot of materials from both sides.
      3. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik April 5 2016 19: 20
        -1
        Oleg Kuznetsov
        April 3 at 20:07
        I decided to calculate the losses of the Armenian side in the battles on April 2. He did this after Serzh Sargsyan's statement that "in the course of clashes with the armed forces of Azerbaijan on the night of April 2, 18 Armenian servicemen were killed, about 35 were injured."
        But I have the following interesting arithmetic:
        Minus 6 tanks, that's 18 people. crew, or killed, or injured, or shell-shocked, with no options.
        Minus 4 batteries of 4 guns (if howitzers), 6 people calculation for 15 destroyed guns, a total of 90 people. personnel, when the gun is destroyed, at least half the crew dies. Total artillery: 90 killed, wounded and shell-shocked. If mortars, then the calculation of 4 people, which means 60 killed, wounded and shell-shocked. Losses in armament: either 78 or 108 people of two hundred and three hundred.
        Fortified a battalion of 350-400 infantry, in the defense of the loss of 15-30% of the personnel, a total of 50-200 people. Armenians themselves claimed the loss of the regiment's lawyer. If at the heights around the village of Talysh there was a regiment, then infantry losses are three times as many - 150-500 people were killed, wounded and shell-shocked.
        Total losses with artillery and tanks - 220-600 people. Arithmetic is extremely simple.
        Most likely, the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense is right in its estimates of enemy losses.
        But there is one "but": this is on condition that during the first volleys the Armenians themselves did not run away, leaving behind small arms and heavy weapons.
        https://www.facebook.com/oleg.kuznetsov.9022
        1. Xent
          Xent April 5 2016 22: 06
          0
          Calculations absolutely do not return, do not return as counted according to the classical Soviet tactics ... and we do not have a classic.
      4. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 5 2016 19: 27
        +3
        Fishing is resting.
    7. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 5 2016 16: 48
      +12
      Quote: Vadim237
      I more believe that this installation destroyed 100 Armenian military before it was covered.

      A colleague, both sides claim that they destroyed more than several hundred soldiers on both sides and that a huge amount of equipment and both sides are successfully advancing, though as always they will come out later, as always everyone says that they are coming, the enemy suffers huge losses, as a result there is a stomp on place and shoot until blue in each other. request
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 5 2016 16: 53
        0
        The offensive against each other continues - Tornadoes seemed to be allowed into battle - when did the Elbrus go into battle.
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 5 2016 16: 55
        +4
        Quote: vovanpain
        both sides claim that they destroyed more than several hundred soldiers on both sides and a huge amount of equipment and both sides are successfully advancing

        Especially when "Information from independent sources on this matter has not yet been received." smile
      3. rubidiy
        rubidiy April 5 2016 17: 22
        +6
        Quote: vovanpain
        A colleague, both sides claim to have destroyed more than several hundred soldiers on both sides

        do not lie!
        Specifically, give a link to the OFFICIAL message of the Armenian side, which would mention hundreds of killed Azerbaijanis.
        The lies of Azerbaijanis, meanwhile, are absolutely official. On the very first day, the downing of their helicopter was denied, and also the destruction of 10 tanks and 100 NKR military personnel was announced. (They would even bother to come up with numbers ...)
        The Karabakh side, on the contrary, did not report any hundreds of destroyed soldiers and tanks. Only now, after three days of fighting (yesterday’s ceasefire statement is yet another outright lie of the Azerbaijani side), were the intermediate results summed up in which data on destroyed enemy equipment prevail: something that can be calculated at least somehow. Messages about the destroyed military personnel of Azerbaijan are still very restrained, and do not exceed a few dozen.

        Another important milestone was the report that the Azerbaijani military covered a kindergarten with artillery fire. There are killed and wounded children. At first, this could be perceived as an information war, but here: https://twitter.com/MuradoRT you can see numerous evidence. For those who are in the tank, I’ll clarify that Murad Gazdiev is the military commander of RT. For a long time (even before the start of the VKS operation) he worked in Syria.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother April 5 2016 18: 56
          +2
          Quote: rubidiy
          The lies of Azerbaijanis, meanwhile, are absolutely official. On the first day, the downing of their helicopter was denied

          Yeah, that's it, that official lies.
          Yes, here he is lying:
        2. Qyomur
          Qyomur April 5 2016 19: 02
          +6
          Now our neighbors are throwing you poop. For the second day, the opposite point of view prevails here. They throw me over)
      4. Asatur
        Asatur April 5 2016 17: 49
        0
        To each other - if they were shooting in the field, and there they’ll just hammer in the mountains.
    8. 2s1122
      2s1122 April 5 2016 17: 46
      +1
      firing range of Solecec-6km,
      the firing range of self-propelled guns Acacia and Carnations is much larger, and can be destroyed.
    9. siberalt
      siberalt April 5 2016 18: 37
      +1
      There was infa that the parties reconciled. Iran acted as a mediator. Well and goodies. There is no use to war. Erdogan remained on the side of Aliyev and stated that Karabakh would be Azerbaijani.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother April 5 2016 18: 47
        -1
        Quote: siberalt
        . Well and goodies.

        The ceasefire was concluded only during the negotiations within the framework of the OSCE Minsk Group.
        If you don’t agree, it will start a new one.
        Much depends on whether the Azerbaijanis managed to get a tough tooth.
        Because if they were able to achieve any successes and gain a foothold, then they just won’t give up what they had captured.
      2. aleks26
        aleks26 April 5 2016 19: 50
        -1
        Quote: siberalt
        Erdogan remained on the side of Aliyev and stated that Karabakh would be Azerbaijani.

        And Azerbaijan is Turkish laughing
    10. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 5 2016 19: 08
      0
      You're right)) our toosik is in place ... waiting for work)
  2. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 5 2016 16: 46
    0
    sort of like NKR art covered one
  3. bad
    bad April 5 2016 16: 47
    +4
    What are the consequences of the use of "Suns", and how many installations were destroyed, the message does not indicate.
    ..a strange war .. neither photo nor video .. each side announces victories and underestimates its losses and overestimates the losses of the enemy and not a single report from the frontline .. by God, all this is strange .. winked
    1. Amurets
      Amurets April 5 2016 16: 57
      +2
      Quote: bad
      ..strange war..none photo or video .. each side announces victories and understates its losses and overestimates the losses of the enemy and not a single report from the frontline .. by golly strange it all

      Nothing strange! The information war, whoever lied more, won. Remember Suvorov's answer to the adjutant's question “How many killed Turks should you write?” And his answer: “Write more, why should you feel sorry for the foe.”
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 5 2016 17: 00
      +2
      Yes, judging by the reports of our channels, there is not a single person who informs this war, and it is not interesting to our news reports at all.
    3. Asatur
      Asatur April 5 2016 17: 51
      0
      Well, to see them as well as to Ukraine, the modern technique of photo and video has not yet reached ... laughing
  4. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 5 2016 16: 49
    +6
    Solntsepek with its 6 km of combat use is very vulnerable
    for enemy howitzers.
    In Syria, he worked because IS has no long-range
    systems. And so - an experienced art. Calculation will cover it from 15 km without problems.
    1. Dam
      Dam April 5 2016 16: 59
      +5
      Any technique has its own purpose. Sunshine is good at breaking into the defense of entrenched infantry, especially in buildings. And for art. duels have other toys.
    2. genisis
      genisis April 5 2016 17: 11
      +2
      Solntsepek with its 6 km of combat use is very vulnerable

      So it happened.
      Unable to open the entrenched infantry, they decided to use TOS-1.
      But it was not for nothing that this conflict was called a drone war, which were used in sufficient quantities by both sides. The advance to the firing position was detected with the help of the drone by the Armenians in advance and an artillery strike was put out that knocked out the system.
      It’s not enough to have equipment, you need to have knowledge and skills in its combat use.
      And, yes, we are talking about one TOS-1 machine
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 5 2016 18: 04
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And so - an experienced art. Calculation will cover it from 15 km without problems.

      Guided missile - possible.
      And the usual "cast iron" ... 300 152-mm shells to destroy a single target. Or 10-12 direct-fire shells.
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 April 5 2016 22: 43
        +3
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And the usual "cast iron" ... 300 152-mm shells to destroy a single target. Or 10-12 direct-fire shells.

        What are you? The standard rate of the spotter hit from the third shell. Was in the late 80s .. I don’t know. But on the exam everyone fit in two ..
      2. Yak-3P
        Yak-3P April 6 2016 09: 13
        0
        Well, if you have a trunk of a curve and with eyes - a disease wassat
      3. genisis
        genisis April 6 2016 10: 49
        0
        300 152 mm shells for the destruction of a single target


        Fire modes ACS "Akatsiya"
        Rate of fire without re-compiling charges:
        • direct fire from stacking towers, rpm / min 3,5
        • direct fire from laying the body, shots / min 2,6
        • when firing from closed positions and feeding shots from the ground, shots / min 3,4
        Average rate of fire at full flow rate of ammunition, rds / min 1,9
        Thermal limitations:
        30 shots per 10 min
        75 shots per 60 min

        Fun for a few hours to hammer on a single target.
        So I chose a goal for myself and until the end of hostilities you work on it laughing
  5. hartlend
    hartlend April 5 2016 16: 53
    0
    Now it is important to stop the direct military conflict, to remove another hotbed of tension. I agree with the previous comment, there is no reliable information. Who to believe?
  6. sir_obs
    sir_obs April 5 2016 16: 55
    +19
    We would have already sold the greens and sewed caps,
    1. Dam
      Dam April 5 2016 17: 05
      +3
      Your golden words!
  7. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 April 5 2016 16: 56
    0
    What kind of manners, how that should be soaked at once to the fullest, as if "Solntsepek" is a light machine gun. And in general, a truce is declared, then they are fighting again, it's time to end this extermination of each other from several heights.
  8. black
    black April 5 2016 16: 57
    +3
    Well, shooting in that direction and getting there are two different things. And given the love of our neighbors for pop @ go, we divide by ten.
  9. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 5 2016 16: 59
    0
    It would be good for Russia to resolve this military conflict without the need to accept someone else.
    It is clear whose side Russia can take ...
  10. Yeraz
    Yeraz April 5 2016 17: 13
    +5
    Well, we will see the photo, then we will believe. And so I believe the facts that are not yet disputed by the other side.
    when it calms down and the journalists start digging, everything will come out.
    1. Chisayna
      Chisayna April 5 2016 17: 26
      +3
      Tell us, what are the moods in the diaspora? Are all Azerbaijanis eager to liberate Karabakh?
      1. Your friend
        Your friend April 5 2016 18: 57
        +2
        Quote: Chisain
        Tell us, what are the moods in the diaspora? Are all Azerbaijanis eager to liberate Karabakh?

        As you can see.))) The dude from St. Petersburg is fighting patriotically with the Armenians in the military. Is this not your patriotism?
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 5 2016 20: 15
          -9
          Quote: Your friend
          As you can see.))) The dude from St. Petersburg is fighting patriotically with the Armenians in the military. Is this not your patriotism?

          I write here least of all. And there was no mobilization in Azerbaijan. Nobody would let me go to the front. There are posts established to stop the volunteers who go to the front.
          You don’t worry about Azerbaijanis, it is a great honor to become a SHAHID in the name of the motherland. We are a generation brought up not by the Soviets, but a new and completely different view of death. And recent events have shown a high level of patriotism. Even I did not expect such a level. Turkey’s influence is good to the soldier and the army well absorbed in the new youth of Azerbaijan.





          This is how they meet the deceased Shahid.
          1. Your friend
            Your friend April 5 2016 21: 22
            +4
            Quote: Yeraz
            I write here least of all. And there was no mobilization in Azerbaijan. Nobody would let me go to the front. There are posts established to stop the volunteers who go to the front.

            I say, you are a real patriot. They didn’t even go to their homeland, but they are already sure that they won’t take it and the posts have been established. Mentally, I'm with you !!!
            Quote: Yeraz
            You don’t worry about Azerbaijanis, it’s a great honor to become a SHAHID in the name of the motherland

            Cheat? Where did I worry about Azerbaijan? Yes, as soon as I read your posts, I immediately realized that you don’t have to worry about Azerbaijan when there are SHAHIDS like you.
            Quote: Yeraz
            . We are a generation brought up not by the Soviets, but by a new and completely different view of death.

            You, the generation brought up not by the Soviets, for some reason live in St. Petersburg, far from war. But I believe in you.
            Quote: Yeraz
            And recent events have shown a high level of patriotism. Even I did not expect such a level. Thanks to the influence of Turkey, their example of a soldier and army well absorbed in the new youth of Azerbaijan.

            This is patriot. Surviving for Azerbaijan, believes in a Turkish soldier .... but lives in Russia. Keep it up.)))))
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 37
              -6
              Quote: Your friend
              I say, you are a real patriot. They didn’t even go to their homeland, but they are already sure that they won’t take it and the posts have been established. Mentally, I'm with you !!!

              You see the master of nonsense. Do you think I live in a cave and don’t know what’s going on in Azerbaijan ??? That in Azerbaijan there is no order to mobilize and that like my relatives and friends they say what is happening in Azerbaijan. They don’t show these on TV roadblocks ??
              Quote: Your friend
              Where did I worry about Azerbaijan?

              You and a couple of others are very worried whether Azerbaijanis will fight for their homeland. WILL.
              Quote: Your friend
              You, the generation brought up not by the Soviets, for some reason live in St. Petersburg, far from war. But I believe in you.

              Once again I say we are not in a cave. It is not a problem to turn up anywhere in the world. Let me spit on your faith in me.
              Quote: Your friend
              This is patriot. Surviving for Azerbaijan, believes in a Turkish soldier .... but lives in Russia. Keep it up.)))))

              Well, if patriotism is measured by the place of registration, Chezh you are not in the DNI and LC with weapons ??)))
              But I live here thanks to the advice. People who know me know how I ended up here. Go further on the Internet and fight. I am ready to die for the Motherland and I hope you are ready to die for the Armenians, since then the probability of our meeting will increase.
              1. Your friend
                Your friend April 5 2016 21: 51
                +3
                Quote: Yeraz
                You see the master of nonsense. Do you think I live in a cave and don’t know what’s going on in Azerbaijan ??? That in Azerbaijan there is no order to mobilize and that like my relatives and friends they say what is happening in Azerbaijan. They don’t show these on TV roadblocks ??

                Kaaaak? Do you need a mobilization order? And it seemed like such a patriot, so he drowned for his homeland. Disappointed. (((
                Quote: Yeraz
                You and a couple of others are very worried whether Azerbaijanis will fight for their homeland. WILL.

                Well, then you do not fight, so do not la la.)))
                Quote: Yeraz
                Once again I say we are not in a cave. To be anywhere in the world is not a problem.

                Rave Where did you say that? And besides, real patriots live in their homeland. Especially in difficult times for the country. But tryndet on the Internet about their patriotism - is not good.
                Quote: Yeraz
                Yes, I spit in your faith in me.

                What an impolite Azerbaijani, pokes a stranger. Hmm. And I believed in him that way. Hahahha ...
                Quote: Yeraz
                Well, if patriotism is measured by the place of registration, Chezh you are not in the DNI and LC with weapons ??)))

                Cheat? As you correctly noted, patriotism is measured by the place of registration. DNI ILNR is not a part of Russia. And Karabakh, as you say, is part of Azerbaijan. And you are sitting in the Russian Federation.)))
                Quote: Yeraz
                And I live here thanks to the advice.

                What advice? What prevents you from leaving home?
                Quote: Yeraz
                Go further on the Internet, fight.

                Aahahahahaha .....
                Quote: Yeraz
                I am ready to die for the Motherland and I hope you are ready to die for the Armenians.

                Am I for Armenians? You rave, hahahaha ....
                Quote: Yeraz
                because then the probability of our meeting will increase.

                No, it won’t grow, you’ll just be sitting on VO and patriotically drowning for Azerbaijan ... in the comments.))))
          2. Victor-M
            Victor-M April 5 2016 22: 13
            +1
            Quote: Yeraz
            This is how they meet the deceased Shahid.

            Strange shahid, if after his death there is something to meet.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz April 5 2016 22: 20
              -2
              Quote: Victor-M
              Strange shahid, if after his death there is something to meet.

              OO Allah.
              I explain the Shaheed in Muslim countries — these are not people who, having fastened a belt, blow themselves up in a crowd of civilians, as is commonly believed in Christian countries.
              A martyr is the one who died in battle.
              Gazi is the one who was injured in battle, participated in the battle.
              And this is the official status in Muslim countries. Only a little different.
              In Azerbaijan, the status of a shahid is obtained if you died in military clashes with the enemy.
              But if you a policeman died in a city in a shootout with a criminal, you are not a martyr. What is not right.
              But in Turkey it’s not so. The status of Shahid is received by both a policeman and an army man, who died by force using their duty.
              1. Your friend
                Your friend April 5 2016 22: 31
                0
                Quote: Yeraz
                OO Allah.
                I explain the Shaheed in Muslim countries — these are not people who, having fastened a belt, blow themselves up in a crowd of civilians, as is commonly believed in Christian countries.
                A martyr is the one who died in battle.

                But the Muslim in Palistine, who gagged a couple of Jews with a knife, was killed by Jewish soldiers. Is he a martyr?
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz April 5 2016 22: 36
                  -3
                  Quote: Your friend
                  But the Muslim in Palistine, who gagged a couple of Jews with a knife, was killed by Jewish soldiers. Is he a martyr?

                  Sick go think it yourself. But you already know everything.
                  1. Your friend
                    Your friend April 5 2016 22: 41
                    0
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    Sick go think it yourself. But you already know everything.

                    Ahahaha .... And this is a resident of the cultural capital, but it is expressed as if he had just come down from the mountains. Probably, when they wrote their comment between their legs they scraped? )))
                    So what's in the war? They defeated the Armenians, liberated Karabakh? How is it going?)))
  11. RUSS
    RUSS April 5 2016 17: 24
    +2
    Vladimir Putin announced the creation of the National Guard in Russia

    The new structure will deal with the fight against terrorism and organized crime.
    The National Guard will appear in Russia, said Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev, Commander-in-Chief of the Internal Troops Viktor Zolotov, FSKN Head Viktor Ivanov and FMS Deputy Head Ekaterina Egorova in the Kremlin.
    - The decision was made, we are creating a new federal executive body on the basis of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, we are creating the National Guard, which will be engaged in the fight against terrorism, organized crime, and in close contact with the Ministry of Internal Affairs will continue to perform the functions performed by the OMON, SOBR units, etc. D., - said the head of state.

    “I very much hope that the troops of the National Guard will carry out their tasks just as effectively as they have until now, and will strengthen their work in those areas that are considered priority,” the president added.

    The National Guard can be headed by Viktor Zolotov.

    In addition, during the meeting, the Russian leader ordered the subordination of the Federal Migration Service and Federal Drug Control Service to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 5 2016 17: 56
      0
      And it’s very good that they created it — there will be someone, in which case, to disperse and cripple the processions of all power alternators.
    2. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot April 5 2016 18: 25
      +1
      Quote: RUSS
      Vladimir Putin announced the creation of the National Guard in Russia



      Why is the name "American" again? Like "federal", "national"?

      Quote: RUSS
      which will be engaged in the fight against terrorism, organized crime, in close contact with the Ministry of Internal Affairs will continue to perform the functions that were performed by the OMON, SOBR, etc.


      That is, it will replace itself or will it be in parallel?
  12. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN April 5 2016 17: 33
    +9
    For some reason, I’m not worried about men for Armenia ... These guys know how to fight in complete surroundings and not badly! But how tanks drive famously and shoot perfectly .. hi Sooner or later Aliyev would have climbed anyway, so the time has come (an order has been received from overseas ..) We are taking revenge for Palmyra and for the humiliation of the west .. Let's break through!
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 5 2016 17: 52
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      And how tanks drive famously and shoot perfectly ..

      they didn’t shoot at Alabino.
      Quote: MIKHAN
      . Break through!

      Vitalik, well, where are you going to break through? To Baku or Yerevan? And what does Palmyra have to do with it?
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN April 5 2016 18: 13
        +4
        Quote: Pinky F.
        Vitalik, well, where are you going to break through? To Baku or Yerevan? And what does Palmyra have to do with it?

        I would immediately rush to Washington ...)))) But seriously, then Syria, Ukraine, etc. all this is interconnected ... After the liberation of Palmyra, Russia looks too peaceful! Here’s the match in Karabakh and threw the west (soon Donbass will burn 1 billion, Parashenko needs to be mastered)
        1. atalef
          atalef April 5 2016 19: 20
          +7
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I would immediately rush to Washington

          Who would doubt that
          Quote: MIKHAN
          But seriously, then Syria, Ukraine, etc. it's all interconnected

          But you don’t want to go there
          1. Pinkie F.
            Pinkie F. April 5 2016 21: 38
            -1
            Quote: atalef

            Quote: MIKHAN
            But seriously, then Syria, Ukraine, etc.

            But you don’t want to go there

            laughing laughing
            +100500
        2. Your friend
          Your friend April 5 2016 19: 21
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I would immediately rush to Washington ...)))) But seriously, then Syria, Ukraine, etc. all this is interconnected ... After the liberation of Palmyra, Russia looks too peaceful! Here’s the match in Karabakh and threw the west (soon Donbass will burn 1 billion, Parashenko needs to be mastered)

          And what do you think, the war in Yemen is not a provocation of a pin ... up to an owl to destabilize and destroy Russia? I think yes. Here are some militarists, they’re spoiling everywhere in Russia, they’re completely overgrown !!!
    2. Your friend
      Your friend April 5 2016 18: 59
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      For some reason, I’m not worried about men for Armenia ...

      Ok, I see. If they were worried, they would already be in Karabakh. And don’t worry, so sit at home. That's right !!!
      1. atalef
        atalef April 5 2016 19: 21
        +4
        Quote: Your friend
        Quote: MIKHAN
        For some reason, I’m not worried about men for Armenia ...

        Ok, I see. If they were worried, they would already be in Karabakh. !!

        neither worry, he just as worried about the Crimea, New Russia. Serbia, Syria, DPRK, etc. etc., he is worried about America.

        Quote: MIKHAN
        I would immediately rush to Washington

        laughing
    3. atalef
      atalef April 5 2016 19: 19
      +9
      Quote: MIKHAN
      . Break through!

      Meehan, for my 4 years on the site, you have not gone out of the couch to visit all the hot spots and wars.
      Inspiring people to the feat with their calls. good
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik April 5 2016 19: 38
        +1
        The Armenians thought that they had shot down a UAV)))))))) we have tears flowing here ..)))))
        Atalef, in spite of our disagreement with you on many issues, thanks for the UAV ... cool toys ...
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmHCQg5sveA
        1. shans2
          shans2 April 5 2016 20: 10
          -3
          how much do you sell eggplant? laughing
      2. Boz_canavar
        Boz_canavar April 5 2016 19: 48
        -4
        oh by the way thank you Israel for the Kamikadai drones hi great stuff, volunteers volunteers on a voluntary last journey laughing
    4. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 5 2016 19: 30
      +1
      https://www.facebook.com/azerbaycan1/videos/10153752019689064/?pnref=story
      The answer ... Guys will understand ... it's worth seeing.
  13. Arandir
    Arandir April 5 2016 17: 58
    +3
    The Karabakh conflict is a consequence, and the reason is the neo-Ottomanism of the Turkish elites and Erdogan in particular. They set fire to Russia from all sides. She is like a forester who runs from one end of the forest to the other and puts out fires. But the forester also has weapons officially issued to him. It is necessary not to catch arsonists and slap on the ass. Specifically, to shoot. One at a time and in batches. The forest is not to be set on fire. The forest is a living organism and a haven for millions of residents. Arsonists specifically fuck for these innocent lives. The main thing for them is to observe their geopolitical ambitions.
    And this conflict is fraught with the threat of blowing up the entire Caucasus. And it can spread directly or indirectly to Iran. Who knows?
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 5 2016 18: 11
      -7
      Quote: Arandir
      The Karabakh conflict is a consequence, and the reason is the neo-Ottomanism of the Turkish elites and Erdogan in particular.

      an interesting insight into the history of the conflict. In 1994, when the war ended, "Erdogan in particular" was the mayor of Istanbul. What the fuck is neo-Ottomanism?
      Quote: Arandir
      The forest is a living organism and a haven for millions of residents ...

      forest allusion is powerful. Yunnatovsky. About feeding troughs and catching.
      Quote: Arandir
      And this conflict is fraught with the threat of blowing up the entire Caucasus.

      think fine. Sargsyan spoke about the whole of Europe.
      1. Awaz
        Awaz April 5 2016 20: 04
        +3
        Arandir is generally right. Everything that happens there now is a continuation of the story of the Armenian Genocide by the Turks. The topic there is a complicated long one and you can’t tell
        1. Pinkie F.
          Pinkie F. April 5 2016 21: 31
          +2
          Quote: AwaZ
          this is a continuation of the story of the Armenian Genocide by the Turks. The subject there is a long complicated one and one cannot tell

          Do not need. If we had a stick with Iran, we would remember Russian-Persian relations with the same profundity. And, of course, not without a cry "You will answer us for Griboyedov !!!"
          And so - "panosmanism", "Erdogan's ears" and other rubbish.
  14. Chisayna
    Chisayna April 5 2016 18: 20
    +5
    Forest, he’s alive. But you don’t understand this.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 5 2016 18: 26
      0
      Quote: Chisain
      Forest, he’s alive. But you don’t understand this.

      I know.
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  15. Redfox3k
    Redfox3k April 5 2016 18: 35
    +1
    Quote: Pinky F.
    Quote: Arandir
    The Karabakh conflict is a consequence, and the reason is the neo-Ottomanism of the Turkish elites and Erdogan in particular.

    an interesting insight into the history of the conflict. In 1994, when the war ended, "Erdogan in particular" was the mayor of Istanbul. What the fuck is neo-Ottomanism?


    As if the roots of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict go back to the times of the Russian and Ottoman empires.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 5 2016 18: 50
      -5
      Quote: Redfox3k
      As if the roots of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict go back to the times of the Russian and Ottoman empires.

      yes then, let’s go to the Achaemenids, at the same time the thesis
      Quote: Arandir
      And it can spread directly or indirectly to Iran.
      confirm. The Persians are somehow more appropriate, at least after the war with them, Karabakh came under our sovereignty, sort of.laughing
      Why bother with such a distant retrospective?
      1. Your friend
        Your friend April 5 2016 19: 13
        +1
        Quote: Pinky F.
        yes then, let’s go to the Achaemenids, at the same time the thesis

        Think fine. I think that without the 4 dynasty of the Old Kingdom, it could not have done.
        Quote: Pinky F.
        Why bother with such a distant retrospective?

        Here you can immediately see the lack of strategic thinking. There is not only Iran, there is India, China, and at the end of Papua New Guinea. AND? What do you say to that?
        1. Pinkie F.
          Pinkie F. April 5 2016 19: 33
          -3
          Quote: Your friend
          What do you say to that?

          on
          Quote: Your friend
          Papua New Guinea.

          ?
          This is strong ...
          Maybe this is a dispute, where is the birthplace of kefir?
          1. Your friend
            Your friend April 5 2016 19: 40
            0
            Quote: Pinky F.
            Maybe this is a dispute, where is the birthplace of kefir?

            Think Ossetia could not do. Um ... Strong. Digging deep!
            1. Pinkie F.
              Pinkie F. April 5 2016 21: 25
              -2
              Quote: Your friend
              Think Ossetia could not do. Um.

              and then! REQUEST after all. Not without reason, as the most insightful people write here ... laughing
  16. ovod84
    ovod84 April 5 2016 18: 45
    +3
    War is bad, and especially when civilians die, there are a lot of classmates of Armenians, good guys, but there are enough lasers for relatives and friends. Is it not interesting to come to an agreement and divide Karabakh into two Azeri parts with broad autonomy and Armenian and end the war.
    1. Your friend
      Your friend April 5 2016 19: 24
      0
      Quote: ovod84
      War is bad, and especially when civilians die, there are a lot of classmates of Armenians, good guys, but there are enough lasers for relatives and friends. Is it not interesting to come to an agreement and divide Karabakh into two Azeri parts with broad autonomy and Armenian and end the war.

      You can, dare, maybe it will work out if you stay alive.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 5 2016 19: 29
      +1
      It is impossible. This is a matter of principle, and for both one and the other side.
    3. shans2
      shans2 April 5 2016 20: 13
      +1
      with what a fright it is, some Armenians live there.
    4. atalef
      atalef April 5 2016 20: 38
      -1
      Quote: ovod84
      Is it not interesting to come to an agreement and divide Karabakh into two Azeri parts with broad autonomy and Armenian and end the war.

      Why share it? Karabakh is an Azerbaijani land.
      By the way, someone forgets a little that apart from Karabakh, there are 7 more districts (in my opinion) that have been torn off.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 5 2016 20: 41
        -1
        Quote: atalef
        By the way, someone forgets a little that apart from Karabakh, there are 7 more districts (in my opinion) that have been torn off.

        This is useless. People who can’t share 2 rocks with Japan, they advise Azerbaijan to share 20% of its territory)) Either laugh, or call the asylum))
        But Israel saw some of its systems in hostilities. I pleased Kamikaze UAV))
        1. atalef
          atalef April 5 2016 20: 45
          +3
          Quote: Yeraz
          But Israel saw some of its systems in hostilities. I pleased Kamikaze UAV))

        2. Cat man null
          Cat man null April 5 2016 20: 46
          +4
          Quote: Yeraz
          2 rocks with Japan cannot share

          - ask at your leisure what else "hangs" on these "rocks" (control over the water area, in particular, and why this water area is needed, except for a certain amount of fish and others .. um .. shrimps)

          Quote: Yeraz
          advise here to Azerbaijan

          - and Azerbaijan is what? On the scale of the same Japan, for example, and the "rocks" that "cannot share" with it? laughing

          PS: but do not substitute .. polemicist, plin wink
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 08
            +1
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - ask at your leisure what else "hangs" on these "rocks" (control over the water area, in particular, and why this water area is needed, except for a certain amount of fish and others .. um .. shrimps)

            And imagine how interesting it is in 20% of the lands. For example, 1 million refugees expelled from there.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null April 5 2016 21: 15
              +4
              Quote: Yeraz
              Can you imagine how interesting it is in 20% of the land

              Ta-aavarisch not panimaaa-a-aaaat ... (c)

              Dear .. Your "million expelled" (just invented, or read where?) - a minor trifle, in comparison with the same Kurils. Well, these are incomparable things ... whoever needs it will understand request
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 21
                +2
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Dear .. Your "million expelled" (just invented, or read where?) - a minor trifle, in comparison with the same Kurils. Well, these are incomparable things ... whoever needs it will understand

                Well, let's not argue from this angle.
                I’ll say from another, but for Azerbaijan this is of great importance. And this is his tragedy. But you are trying to say here from your bell tower, why are you guys the loss of 20% and 1 million refugees with a population of 9.5 million is a trifle. )
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null April 5 2016 21: 26
                  +1
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  People who cannot share 2 rocks with Japan, advise Azerbaijan here ...

                  Quote: Yeraz
                  ... It looks somehow funny

                  Exactly. It wasn’t me who said it, you said it request
            2. Otshelnik
              Otshelnik April 5 2016 22: 57
              +1
              Already not 20%, to our joy !!!) Specifically, how many won back we will soon find out!
        3. hrych
          hrych April 5 2016 21: 10
          +6
          Quote: Yeraz
          People who 2 rocks with Japan cannot share

          We have no complaints about Japan.
          Quote: Yeraz
          Pleased Kamikaze UAV))

          The Armenians apparently already ordered Krasukha, etc., so that everything radio-controlled gets in.
          In general, summing up, we can say that the blitzkrieg completely failed due to the Armenian air defense, a couple of helicopters were destroyed, i.e. The Azerbaijani Air Force immediately suffered unacceptable losses and had to abandon the use of the Air Force. Further, the offensive ran into echeloned defense and artduels. Armenians have heights, and this is a significant advantage for artillerymen, and aviation is for suppressing youk. There was also an infa about the environment of the Azerbaijani unit, and as in a fairy tale, immediately Baku started negotiations. In short, the cauldron again ... But there are certain things where the askers distinguished themselves - this is the elimination of three old people under 90 years of age, whose cut off ears will demonstrate proof of valor and one cut off head ...
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 26
            0
            Quote: hrych
            In general, summing up, we can say that the blitzkrieg completely failed due to the Armenian air defense

            I’m wondering, are you sitting in the General Staff of Azerbaijan and know what goals the Headquarters had ???
            I personally don’t know anything about this. I don’t know anything about the plans in the Gestab of Armenia and Azerbaijan, but you know))))
            Quote: hrych
            Also there was an infa about the environment of the Azerbaijani unit and how in a fairy tale immediately Baku went to negotiations

            Personally surrounded?)))
            Quote: hrych
            But there are undoubtedly things where askers distinguished themselves - this is the elimination of three old people under 90 years of age, whose cut off ears will demonstrate proof of valor and one cut off head ...

            Hmm .. and officially recognized by Armenia, first 18 then 20, and then 5 volunteers killed in the bus, this is probably a fairy tale)))) True, there are only 2 old men and 1 dude whose head was torn off.

            And by the way.

            In Azerbaijan, the elderly, children and a couple of young guys were killed from shelling of Armenians. There are links.
            1. hrych
              hrych April 5 2016 21: 37
              +5
              Quote: Yeraz
              I personally do not know anything about this.

              Apparently, they don’t know anything in your General Staff either ... And so your commander, who will undoubtedly be dismissed soon, indicated (though it was already clear that the operation had failed) so that the Armenians would return Karabakh and the captured areas themselves. He also threatened to strike at Stepanokert, in response they received the threat of a blow to the oil industry, and Aliyev could not neglect this because the property of his clan ... And peace came on the whole Earth, and the cunning GDP is right there, let's call the brawlers, saying that he reconciled them ...
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 40
                0
                Quote: hrych
                in response received a threat of blow to the oil industry


                No, everything is simpler here.

                Russian troops raised the alarm in Dagestan
                5 April 2016, 13: 34

                In Dagestan, the units of a separate motorized rifle brigade of the Southern Military District of Russia were raised by alarm. According to the press service of the Southern Military District, units make a march to the Dalniy training ground, where tactical exercises will be held. About 1 military personnel and 000 pieces of equipment were involved in the maneuvers, the Zvezda television channel reports.



                “According to the plan of the exercises, the servicemen of the motorized rifle brigade will have to repulse the attack of the advance detachment of the conditional enemy on a column of military equipment, take up defense and, in cooperation with the attached units, conduct defense of the specified area,” the military department said.

                During the exercises, military personnel will conduct live firing from Grad, Gvozdika, and T-90A tanks. Maneuvers will last until April 9th.

                Here is the answer to the reasons for the sudden truce.
        4. Your friend
          Your friend April 5 2016 21: 35
          0
          Quote: Yeraz
          This is useless. People who can’t share 2 rocks with Japan, they advise Azerbaijan to share 20% of its territory)) Either laugh, or call the asylum))

          Yes, no, you, as an Azerbaijani patriot who deflated from the war, do not laugh at all, or you will really get into a mental hospital.)))
          Quote: Yeraz
          But Israel saw some of its systems in hostilities. I pleased Kamikaze UAV))

          Seriously? Do you think the Jews, when you created this UAV, thought that you would ditch it stupidly, using it as an ordinary shell? Ahahaha ....
          By the way, Erdogan is aware that you are bred with Jews hihanki-hahanki? And then even recently Erdogan is not very with Israel.)))
          1. atalef
            atalef April 5 2016 21: 38
            +8
            Quote: Your friend
            Seriously? Do you think the Jews, when you created this UAV, thought that you would ditch it stupidly, using it as an ordinary shell? Ahahaha ..

            belay
            Really Ha Ha Ha.
            Only he is for this purpose. fool
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 48
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              Only he is for this purpose.

              And there are plenty of such))))
              1. Your friend
                Your friend April 5 2016 22: 01
                +1
                Quote: Yeraz
                Quote: atalef
                Only he is for this purpose.

                And there are plenty of such))))

                Which ones? Which do not mow from the army when a war is going on in the country?
            2. Your friend
              Your friend April 5 2016 21: 54
              0
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Your friend
              Seriously? Do you think the Jews, when you created this UAV, thought that you would ditch it stupidly, using it as an ordinary shell? Ahahaha ..

              belay
              Really Ha Ha Ha.
              Only he is for this purpose. fool

              Ahahahah ... I overestimated the Jews, using an expensive UAV as a kamikaze shell to kill several people is something.))))
          2. Yeraz
            Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 41
            +2
            Quote: Your friend
            Yes, no, you, as an Azerbaijani patriot who deflated from the war, do not laugh at all, or you will really get into a mental hospital.)))

            Hey nerd, do you know me to say I’m from the army or not ???
            Quote: Your friend
            Seriously? Do you think the Jews, when you created this UAV, thought that you would ditch it stupidly, using it as an ordinary shell? Ahahaha ...

            You would turn on your brains and at least read what this UAV was created for in order to carry nonsense.
            Well, where are you, only blah blah blah.

            All walk.
            1. Your friend
              Your friend April 5 2016 22: 00
              +2
              Quote: Yeraz
              Hey nerd, do you know me to say I’m from the army or not ???

              Why do I need to know you? Of course you mow.)))
              Quote: Yeraz
              You would turn on your brains and at least read what this UAV was created for in order to carry nonsense.
              Well, where are you, only blah blah blah.

              I confess, I did not know that for the sake of killing several people, Azerbaijanis are using a system designed to combat the enemy’s air defense systems.
              Quote: Yeraz
              All walk.

              What a rude Azerbaijani, and also from the cultural capital. Ahahaha ....
            2. ramzes1776
              ramzes1776 April 5 2016 22: 54
              +7
              Yeraz, collect your "martyrs" from the markets in St. Petersburg and Moscow and forward their lands to win back. Then all Moscow and St. Petersburg will thank you very much))) And you don't need to come back here if you love your homeland very much. Live there at your own land there protect yours from different invaders !!!
          3. shans2
            shans2 April 5 2016 23: 23
            +1
            Erdogan’s everything is very with Israel, they tried to tear Syria under the guise of ISIS, they dreamed up Great Israel, another Ottoman Empire, the Khazar Khaganate in Ukraine, the villagers have no problem, Russia kicks them everywhere)))
      2. shans2
        shans2 April 5 2016 23: 14
        0
        Palestine - Palestinian land, what to share, get out of it while you are safe laughing
      3. shans2
        shans2 April 5 2016 23: 18
        +2
        It was ripped off by Palestinians from Palestine, and the Armenians of 7 districts conquered in the liberation war against the aggressors in Karabakh, say thank you that Russia with the drunken mattress pad Yeltsin stopped the tanks of the Armenians, otherwise they would have taken Baku with much worse consequences for the Turkmens ...
  17. Sergey333
    Sergey333 April 5 2016 18: 57
    +1
    Is that what people need? They live nearby and for centuries constantly mutilate each other.
  18. Your friend
    Your friend April 5 2016 19: 15
    0
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    It’s clear that Armenia is a member

    Hmmmm. You think so?
  19. Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 5 2016 19: 25
    +1
    https://www.facebook.com/bizimyolinfo/videos/1143451032388168/?pnref=story
    Hochma ....))))))
    Paren called stepenakert ...)))))))
    1. Your friend
      Your friend April 5 2016 19: 26
      0
      Quote: Otshelnik
      https://www.facebook.com/bizimyolinfo/videos/1143451032388168/?pnref=story

      The link that you clicked on has probably expired, or you are not in the audience to view this Page.
  20. Yeraz
    Yeraz April 5 2016 20: 17
    -5
    SHAHID meeting in Nakhchivan.


    1. shans2
      shans2 April 6 2016 04: 09
      0
      Aggressor whipped, what a joy, bgg
  21. dubovairina
    dubovairina April 5 2016 20: 52
    -6
    the wife gave drops that radically improved our SEX, it became several times longer, a hundred.yak stronger, the sensations are brighter and more pleasant. And the wife is now happy and I feel great! I myself did not know and did not believe until I read this article --- us.to/macho
    1. Your friend
      Your friend April 5 2016 21: 37
      +1
      Quote: dubovairina
      the wife gave drops that radically improved our SEX, it became several times longer, a hundred.yak stronger, the sensations are brighter and more pleasant. And the wife is now happy and I feel great! I myself did not know and did not believe until I read this article --- us.to/macho

      And didn’t you stand without drops? Byad ....
    2. Victor-M
      Victor-M April 5 2016 22: 16
      +1
      the wife gave drops that radically improved our SEX, it became several times longer, a hundred.yak stronger, the sensations are brighter and more pleasant. And the wife is now happy and I feel great! I myself did not know and did not believe until I read this article

      How do you poor people go out now? what belay
    3. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian April 6 2016 02: 58
      0
      A purely Ukrainian approach, however.
  22. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx April 5 2016 21: 13
    +6
    Quote: atalef

    Why share it? Karabakh is an Azerbaijani land.

    And the Gaza Strip is Palestinian, and the Golan Heights are Syrian, yes?
  23. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx April 5 2016 21: 26
    +4
    Quote: Yeraz
    It is useless. People who 2 rocks with Japan cannot share

    Well, firstly, not 2, but 4, as you put it, "rocks" and secondly, why divide them, they are already ours. I would teach math part better than posting vidos with shahids with all sorts of fanaticism, thanks, have seen enough already, and the Armenians will break in, break in and break in, because they are warriors, not fanatics. upbringing yes such that is now going on would never have come, martyrs are shitty.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 44
      -3
      Quote: Alget87
      Yes, with such education, yes, such that what is happening now would never have reached, the martyrs are bad.

      Yes, recall that it was brought up by the soviets of the Soviets who started the war and by the soviets brought up in the leadership of the CIS countries who soundly rob their people ??
      Quote: Alget87
      I would have taught the mat part better than laying out vidos with all sorts of shahids than you want to surprise, with fanaticism, thanks, you’ve seen enough already, but the Armenians will break in, break in and break in, because they are warriors, not fanatics

      Well that's all. Step aside and see how they break in. Something is not logical

      1. Your friend
        Your friend April 5 2016 22: 03
        +5
        Quote: Yeraz
        Yes, recall that it was brought up by the soviets of the Soviets who started the war and by the soviets brought up in the leadership of the CIS countries who soundly rob their people ??

        Are you talking about your president? The son of a member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee? Does he rob you? Poor thing.)))
  24. Yeraz
    Yeraz April 5 2016 21: 46
    -6
    Here they are breaking))))
    1. Your friend
      Your friend April 5 2016 22: 08
      +1
      Quote: Yeraz
      Here they are breaking))))

      Are you standing there? Ah well done, but I really did not believe that you would go to give the duty to the homeland.))))
  25. Xent
    Xent April 5 2016 22: 26
    +3
    thank you people comments a lot on the topic and off topic, learned a lot of new things ... about TOS-1, one was destroyed, managed to make one salvo, rather unsuccessfully and everything ... about rubbed ... I repeat again. No need to calculate l / s according to classical tactics. There was no defense, and that’s why 200-300 or even more losses can’t be. 27 were killed, 28 were missing, 104 injured, 14 tanks. And this is the real loss of the Armenians. That's about the loss of the Azerbaijanis, wait a bit, our radio intelligence intercepted the conversation, and there the numbers spoke much more.
    According to the actions of the Azeris, there are quite a few ISIS fighters among them (it’s no secret how many Azeris were in ISIS gangs and fought in Syria) ... the severed heads of Armenian soldiers, the shooting of old people and cutting off their ears ... The bodies of several dozen of these bandits are now with us dozens between us and Azeris ... well, it’s just that they don’t need to tell about them, they are not part of the army ...
    1. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx April 6 2016 09: 34
      -1
      Another statement that proves the success of the Az army. In Armenia, they brainwashed for 20 years that Azerbaijanis do not know how to fight, and so on. And then, bang capture new positions big losses as Russian media reports Shusha is empty, the surrounding areas were evacuated. Other media from Armenia for Az-en Turkish soldiers are fighting))) then today it turned out to be nevs am for Az-en 2500 Igilovites are fighting))) What is the analogy? save the world for them the regular army of Turkey, Putin dad all Armenia save for them Ishil. Are you all right with your brains? How can a normal (abnormal) Igilovets fight for Az-an where there is a secular state and not one law from Sharia? more than 90% of Shiites who are the number one enemy of the Islamic Republic are considered to be apostates. I heard about the Armenian radio many times but saw it in business for the first time. I saw it plus a radio interception, the conversation of one resident from the village with Baku says 2000 killed from the Az side. to voice this number even for armenin in VO? I’ll tell you the grandmothers on the bench in our yard have already announced the seizure of Fizuli)) a good source. Armododey referred to this woman yesterday and that’s the beauty of Armenian journalism! Plus, we’ll add a brazen box in the translation of the Russian live news channel, the distortion of words for which they were expelled from Az-na. Channel leader Armenian voila everything fell into place Armenian radio in business. Az-ts also lie and a lot, but Armenian is something!
      1. hrych
        hrych April 6 2016 11: 06
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