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In the Ukrainian "Dozor-B" after tests found cracks in the armor

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Ukrainian edition "Apostrophe" Reports about the next "Zrade." This time, the publication reported on why Dozor-B armored vehicles, which were so highly praised by the manufacturer, in the near future will not be able to be in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The fact is that after passing state tests and after receiving recommendations for the supply to the troops, Ukrainian patrols had problems with armor.


It is reported that in the area of ​​the engine, armored vehicles were found to have cracks in the armor. And we are talking about two cars at once.

It should be noted that the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has already reported that by the end of March the first batch of “Dozorov-B” as part of the 10 armored vehicles will go into service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, now the plans have to be adjusted, and the official representatives of the main military department of Ukraine are not reporting about when the deliveries will take place.

In the Ukrainian "Dozor-B" after tests found cracks in the armor


The Dozor-B prototype was presented for testing by the manufacturer, the Lviv armored plant. Already after the first stage of testing, almost fifty defects were revealed, which were announced by the Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine, Lieutenant-General Pavlovsky. The company promised to eliminate all the flaws, but, apparently, the task was never solved.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 5 2016 16: 22
    +43
    Epoxy is our everything! yes And they will be better than before.
    1. st25310
      st25310 April 5 2016 16: 23
      +38
      His correct drove "SHOPP-B" (b .. lyatsky) because the kaklyatsky shushpantsy have no other names.
      1. Michael67
        Michael67 April 5 2016 16: 25
        +2
        Not epoxy, but cold welding, like.
        On the way from the factory will fall apart. Sawers are bad.
        1. cniza
          cniza April 5 2016 16: 29
          +6
          Quote: Michael67
          Not epoxy, but cold welding, like.
          On the way from the factory will fall apart. Sawers are bad.



          Which country is such a technique - everything is bursting.
          1. Galich Kos
            Galich Kos April 5 2016 18: 10
            +7
            Again zrada? Yes, your mother ...
          2. Lukich
            Lukich April 5 2016 22: 01
            +2
            Quote: cniza
            Which country is such a technique - everything is bursting.

            Well sometimes it turns out laughing
        2. Winnie76
          Winnie76 April 5 2016 16: 31
          +6
          Cold welding is essentially epoxy
        3. tiredwithall
          tiredwithall April 5 2016 16: 40
          +37
          No, men, it is necessary to give a radical repair - just scotch tape.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 5 2016 16: 42
            +4
            Just cracks paint smear.
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA April 5 2016 16: 55
            +16
            Quote: tiredwithall
            No, men, it is necessary to give a radical repair - just scotch tape.

            Heretic!
            No scotch tape! Only the sacred blue electrical tape! smile
            1. tiredwithall
              tiredwithall April 5 2016 16: 57
              +6
              Let’s join forces - both insulating tape and adhesive tape! The result is guaranteed.
              1. avt
                avt April 5 2016 17: 27
                0
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Heretic!
                No scotch tape! Only the sacred blue electrical tape!

                Quote: tiredwithall
                Let’s join forces - both insulating tape and adhesive tape! The result is guaranteed.

                No. You don’t guarantee anything, only snot, only snot on patrol in the cracks of the aid ..... well, peramog.
                1. Alexey RA
                  Alexey RA April 5 2016 17: 29
                  +1
                  Quote: avt
                  You don’t guarantee anything, only snot, only snot on patrol in the cracks of the aid ..... well, peramog.

                  But what about the primordial materials - manure and sticks? smile
                  1. GSH-18
                    GSH-18 April 5 2016 17: 41
                    0
                    Quote: Alexey RA
                    But what about the primordial materials - manure and sticks? smile

                    Not original, but initial!
              2. Roman 57 rus
                Roman 57 rus April 5 2016 21: 16
                0
                What are you? This is armored vehicles, exclusively on the wire!
            2. Dam
              Dam April 5 2016 17: 01
              +3
              Blue-yellow, patriotic, I insist!
            3. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian April 5 2016 17: 02
              +2
              blue in half with yellow - then reassurance is guaranteed.
              1. Kos_kalinki9
                Kos_kalinki9 April 5 2016 17: 17
                +1
                Guys, what if plasticine?
            4. lelikas
              lelikas April 5 2016 17: 26
              +4
              Quote: Alexey RA
              No scotch tape! Only the sacred blue electrical tape!

              I suddenly remembered ...
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA April 5 2016 17: 32
                +3
                I remembered perfect engineering block diagram:
            5. GSH-18
              GSH-18 April 5 2016 17: 47
              +1
              Quote: Alexey RA
              No scotch tape! Only the sacred blue electrical tape! smile

              And better Chinese, which breaks into the heat!
          3. poquello
            poquello April 5 2016 17: 29
            +2
            Quote: tiredwithall
            No, men, it is necessary to give a radical repair - just scotch tape.

            it is not visible from below, and then it will clog with dirt
          4. Korney84
            Korney84 April 5 2016 17: 55
            +1
            Nobody has come up with anything better than blue electrical tape lol
          5. Passer
            Passer April 5 2016 19: 12
            +1
            Quote: tiredwithall
            No, men, it is necessary to give a radical repair - just scotch tape.

            No scotch tape. Only blue electrical tape!
      2. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik April 5 2016 16: 47
        +5
        The paint has dried and cracked along with the armor! laughing
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 April 5 2016 17: 00
          +4
          Judging by the color of the spark from a raw-meat grinder, a golem.
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel April 5 2016 18: 33
            0
            If there was a rawhide (Art. 3), it would not creep at the seams. It can be seen that carbon steel was welded without special technology. They dispersed the specialists. And on Nezalezhnaya there is also the famous Paton Welding Institute. Where the hell! belay
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 April 5 2016 17: 25
        0
        Quote: st25310
        His correct drove "SHAME-B" (obscene ..) for the kaklyatsky shushpantsy no other names.

        Is there some more: shaitan arba for example lol
        1. Firstvanguard
          Firstvanguard April 5 2016 18: 37
          0
          Quote: GSH-18
          Quote: st25310
          His correct drove "SHAME-B" (obscene ..) for the kaklyatsky shushpantsy no other names.

          Is there some more: shaitan arba for example lol

          Won't be too proud a name for this tarantass. The crocodile shaitan-arba in Afghanistan was nicknamed.
      4. poquello
        poquello April 5 2016 17: 26
        0
        Quote: st25310
        His correct drove "SHOPP-B" (b .. lyatsky) because the kaklyatsky shushpantsy have no other names.

        it’s a short article, they wrote that Polish steel burst, but they can’t do their own thickness, in short, handsome Poles, handsome dill, a beautiful holey machine
      5. GSH-18
        GSH-18 April 5 2016 17: 45
        -1
        Thanks to the author of the article, neighing from the heart! good
      6. crumb
        crumb April 5 2016 18: 38
        0
        The title of the article is not correct. So, in Ukrainian Shame-B, a fart cracked. belay
      7. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak April 5 2016 19: 20
        +2
        Quote: st25310
        His correct drove "SHAME-B" (b .. lyatsky)

        Moreover, the citizens of 404 came up with it themselves! And Vitaly Podvitsky also painted it in action.
    2. mgfly
      mgfly April 5 2016 16: 25
      +5
      noooo, just a blue electrical tape !!! nowhere without her laughing
      1. Pravdarm
        Pravdarm April 5 2016 16: 37
        +3
        first plug the tow and cover the beast with snot! fellow
        1. tiredwithall
          tiredwithall April 5 2016 16: 58
          +1
          Where to get snot? The flu season has already passed.
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 April 5 2016 17: 28
            -1
            Quote: tiredwithall
            Where to get snot? The flu season has already passed.

            The plaster rushed from foot to scent laughing
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      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 April 5 2016 17: 05
        +2
        Quote: mgfly
        noooo, just a blue electrical tape !!! nowhere without her

        Citizens of Petrosyan, I turn to you for ten comments down and up - this already seems to be insanity enough so stupidly like to joke.
        shlifmashinka electrical tape snot farts, etc. etc ... it looks like spring to shizu citizens "humorists" ????? am
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 April 5 2016 17: 15
          -1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Citizens of Petrosyan

          And that comrade "Marshal" Petrosyansky - ochkanul write an answer? minus is all?
          1. lelikas
            lelikas April 5 2016 17: 29
            +3
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            And that comrade "Marshal" Petrosyansky - ochkanul write an answer? minus is all?

            Though not my minus, I’ll answer -
            Just follow this link -
            http://www.centr-crm.ru/naviki/chuvstvo-iumora-kak-nauchitsya-shutit.html
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 April 6 2016 01: 58
              +1
              I hope the local "humorists" also respect it, although humor is such a thing - either it is or it is not. Good humor usually accompanies high intelligence, well, exactly the opposite - the humor of Evgeny Vaganovich P. lol
              drinks
    3. Fregate
      Fregate April 5 2016 16: 32
      +3
      Everything is bursting at the seams: country, economy, brains, armor, farts. All!!
    4. milann
      milann April 5 2016 16: 32
      +1
      What are the brains, such are the fruits of their activities.
      However, if the crew doesn’t fart at the same time, these Dozurchata will still serve.
    5. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 5 2016 16: 53
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Epoxy is our everything! yes And they will be better than before.

      What a nuisance. On the other hand, the box in battle will live 15 minutes maximum. Therefore, cracks are nonsense. Feel free to introduce new equipment in the ATO! And you can get to the ATO by train. The main thing ahead.
    6. RUSS
      RUSS April 5 2016 16: 54
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Epoxy is our everything! yes And they will be better than before.

      You do not understand anything in air conditioners in dill laughing
    7. Dam
      Dam April 5 2016 17: 00
      0
      A crack in the brain than glued to non-brothers?
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian April 5 2016 17: 05
        0
        where is the crack from what is not?
    8. sgazeev
      sgazeev April 5 2016 17: 17
      0
      [quote = Vladimir] Epoxy is our everything! yes And they will be better than before. [/ Q
      The frame does not withstand the load, for sure, that’s driving it.
    9. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 5 2016 17: 22
      0
      In the Ukrainian "Dozor-B" after tests found cracks in the armor

      This is so that the summer is not hot! lol Yes, and on the go to the toilet to go forever, most importantly, Schaub wind was not counter!
    10. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 5 2016 17: 31
      -1
      And this is that on the right shushpantsyr ?? Have flower pots welded on one side? wassat To disguise the type on the background of a garbage dump ??
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak April 5 2016 19: 06
        0
        Quote: GSH-18
        Have flower pots welded on one side?

        Probably the craters masked and strengthened.
    11. vodolaz
      vodolaz April 5 2016 17: 37
      +1
      That's what happens when they do without electrical tape)))
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 April 5 2016 17: 38
        0
        Quote: vodolaz
        That's what happens when they do without electrical tape)))

        Scotch Chinese let us down lol
        1. Kasym
          Kasym April 5 2016 17: 54
          +1
          Most likely the armor manufacturing technology is violated. They also had Iraqi BTR-3 (4) (under a contract between Ukraine and Iraq) with cracks - Iraqis rejected them. Now here is the Watch with cracks. hi
          1. Coconut Tima
            Coconut Tima April 5 2016 18: 01
            0
            Burst ... armor, lost money!
    12. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot April 5 2016 18: 18
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Epoxy is our everything! yes And they will be better than before.


      potato starch
  2. Thrall
    Thrall April 5 2016 16: 23
    +3
    Now on patrol without Bae smile
  3. sever.56
    sever.56 April 5 2016 16: 24
    +8
    Here the whole Outskirts are in cracks, why be surprised that their cars are cracking even without participating in the database.
    What is the picture for the article, where the so-called "armor" is boiled on a sheet of iron lying on wooden trestles ... Production of ukrovunderwafel at the level of the Stone Age!
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 5 2016 16: 47
      +5
      Quote: sever.56
      What is the picture for the article where the so-called "armor" is boiled on a sheet of iron lying on wooden trestles ...

      There was a picture and abruptly: "Watch on the stumps."

      And not from anyone, but from Bloomberg. laughing

      However, cracks in the armor are a trademark of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. Suffice it to recall the Iraqi BTR-4.
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 April 5 2016 17: 22
        +2
        What is it? Like a conveyor belt? Look, almost like a Ford.
      2. andrewkor
        andrewkor April 5 2016 17: 25
        +1
        we remember, we remember how Iraq refused to accept the second batch of BTR4, they hung out for a month on the ship at sea until they sent it to the ATO for fanfare.
  4. salad
    salad April 5 2016 16: 26
    +3
    I do not see anything funny!! forgot plasticine! stop trolling the best army in the world !! wassat
    1. Foresterer
      Foresterer April 5 2016 16: 36
      +1
      Soon papier-mâché will be remembered. It will save you from a guano bullet.
  5. OlegV
    OlegV April 5 2016 16: 27
    +20
    this is because all the documentation is in Ukrainian, and many people know this language very poorly, although Ukrainians are, therefore such blunders ..... like, something similar .... so, for example
  6. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior April 5 2016 16: 27
    +3
    Armored personnel carriers for Iraq were remembered ... winked
    By the way, the zrada is really notable, it turns out that they recently tried to sniff these "armor" Indians ... belay
  7. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN April 5 2016 16: 29
    +4
    The feeling in the photo that the assembly "on the knee" in the garage ...
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 April 5 2016 16: 52
      +1
      So it is, "Dozor-B ..... b"
  8. Winnie76
    Winnie76 April 5 2016 16: 34
    +6
    Cooperative "Wheelbarrow for pumping", but without blacks
    1. spech
      spech April 5 2016 16: 41
      0
      "Wheelbarrow for pumping"

      maybe "tachanka" laughing
  9. Velizariy
    Velizariy April 5 2016 16: 40
    +1
    Now they will accuse Putin and with the anthem on the voices will curse him in this diversion ...
  10. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA April 5 2016 16: 43
    +3
    Stability is a sign of mastery! (C)
  11. Ossetian
    Ossetian April 5 2016 16: 44
    +3
    All news agencies were noted, but silence on the "echo of matzo" lol , not trending ...
  12. bunny
    bunny April 5 2016 16: 45
    +1
    Not to do with the Great Ukrainians, it’s the Poles who defective the armor
    1. poquello
      poquello April 5 2016 17: 44
      0
      Quote: Bunny
      Not to do with the Great Ukrainians, it’s the Poles who defective the armor

      so with its thickness so dill problem
  13. Human Factor
    Human Factor April 5 2016 16: 46
    +4
    Cracks, as you know, were not originally in the armor, but in the heads.
  14. sir_obs
    sir_obs April 5 2016 16: 46
    +2
    The armored car cracked. It remains to find out who such cracks are and why he gave it to him.
  15. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz April 5 2016 16: 47
    +2
    As you call an armored car, so it will float laughing Shame on him and shame on Africa laughing
  16. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 5 2016 16: 48
    +2
    Shaw lads, a model from papier-mâché was dragged to the test for a test?
  17. black
    black April 5 2016 16: 49
    +4
    Who is there in the Moscow Armed Forces of Ukraine, such a little eye, with whom the greedy manufacturers didn’t share it?
  18. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 5 2016 16: 50
    0
    They didn’t manage to deliver anything to anyone, again they would blame Russia.
  19. el-nino
    el-nino April 5 2016 16: 50
    +3
    Not a hitch, but just a business.
    the company "Bogdan", a member of the Poroshenko clan, blinded armored cars Bars, Triton. Naturally, all the rest are poor-quality shit. Including licensed Kraz cars.
    Foolish laughing
  20. bunny
    bunny April 5 2016 16: 51
    +6
    Here's another from this thread:
    Misfortune also haunts another car that Poroshenko recently rode on. In March 2016, during his visit to the Kharkiv region, the president tested the BTR-4 and even said that “it’s easier to drive it than the Volga.”
    “These handsome armored personnel carriers are really looking forward to the troops,” the head of state said.
    During the visit, Getty photojournalists accompanied him, who recorded that the miracle of Ukrainian armored thought was being done on banal stumps. This, by the way, largely explains the problems with cracks. It is unlikely that the know-how of Ukrainian armored designers is used only in Kharkov. By the way, checkpoint Kharkov plant them. Malysheva is generally decorated with Soviet heroes and the St. George ribbon. And, judging by the expressions of the workers' faces, not one of them is embarrassed by this fact. Moreover, it seems to them natural.
    With the help of stumps and St. George ribbons, a miracle of Ukrainian armored vehicles is done
    With the help of stumps and St. George ribbons, a miracle of Ukrainian armored vehicles is done
    By the way, BTR-4, which, like Dozor, is a deeply secondary product, has already become famous internationally. And, coincidentally, exactly the same. The Iraqi army refused a batch of Ukrainian equipment, explaining this by the presence of cracks in the corps of armored personnel carriers. As a result, 42 vehicles were loaded back into the bulk carrier and sent home. And envious Iraqis in revenge bought the Russian BRT-82.

    Piglet apparently has an aura like this, all that it won’t take is cracking and crumbling
    1. poquello
      poquello April 5 2016 17: 56
      +1
      Quote: Bunny
      Piglet apparently has an aura like this, all that it won’t take is cracking and crumbling

      and dill aircraft with ballast?
  21. gg.na
    gg.na April 5 2016 16: 57
    +2
    They plundered money under the guise of making these shame-b, and the West allocated money to them! wassat Now they will eliminate the shortcomings and remodel these shame-b and will again require denyuzhok from the West laughing Thieves in a word and chaos! lol
  22. VP
    VP April 5 2016 17: 04
    +1
    Putin fucked up, damned, dirty to knights
    Another funny point is not given in the squeeze - Polish armor plates, since Ukraine can no longer produce armor of the required grade of the required thickness, degradation
  23. krops777
    krops777 April 5 2016 17: 06
    +6
    In general, they did some calculations during the construction of this pepelats, or as in the cartoon "but it will do anyway."
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 5 2016 17: 37
      0
      Quote: krops777
      In general, they did some calculations during the construction of this pepelats, or as in the cartoon "but it will do anyway."

      Pepelats, like flying. And this is their shaitan-arba! laughing Shaw is the middle between a trash can and a bad omen.
  24. raid14
    raid14 April 5 2016 17: 07
    +1
    A welding seam in the engine compartment (they write as much as 40-50 cm) was sold because of the increased load on the body, due to a violation of the welding technology of high alloy steels.
    Another zrada for Svidomo, the first culprits have already been announced are the developers (miscalculations of the structure, materials) and welders saboteurs.
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m April 5 2016 17: 44
      0
      Well, at least one person wrote a sensible comment !!! Improvements in the process of creating new technology is the norm. I recalled an anecdote of Soviet times: the Americans stole a suitcase of drawings of a super-secret latest rocket. Built - it turned out a steam locomotive. They made claims to the design bureau. And our responded that the car with the drawings of improvements has not yet approached.
  25. vvp2412
    vvp2412 April 5 2016 17: 07
    +1
    Iraq has not just abandoned the BTR-3 ....
    Apparently they made one govnostal!
  26. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 5 2016 17: 22
    +1
    Quote: Bunny
    Not to do with the Great Ukrainians, it’s the Poles who defective the armor

    Well, maybe the Poles, from the Chernobyl scrap metal, Ukraine and the Germans sucked in water pipes from it, now they are buying iodine around the world.
  27. nemec55
    nemec55 April 5 2016 17: 22
    -1
    Do not turn into Svidomo Yes x with them with their thrush we look under his breath what is going on with you.
  28. vobels
    vobels April 5 2016 17: 40
    +1
    If the mess in the country, then the same in materials, and in technology, and in performing discipline. Here is the visual result - everything bursts!
  29. atamankko
    atamankko April 5 2016 17: 41
    0
    While the junta and Bandera in power will not do anything good, and then too.
  30. erik cartman
    erik cartman April 5 2016 17: 44
    0
    Quote: nemec55
    Do not turn into Svidomo Yes x with them with their thrush we look under his breath what is going on with you.

  31. Cynic
    Cynic April 5 2016 17: 47
    0
    Is it the first time?
    Maybe he missed, but: In 2014, Iraq wrapped a batch of Ukrainian remodelers, BTR-4, precisely because of cracks. The noise was notable.
    The news would be the absence of cracks, and so ...
  32. erik cartman
    erik cartman April 5 2016 17: 49
    0
    I agree with nemec55. Moreover, this miracle apparatus, if it reaches the front line itself, can be used as a fixed firing point. It’s not a fact that he will live for a long time, but nevertheless it will cause trouble.
  33. Oleg Monarchist
    Oleg Monarchist April 5 2016 18: 11
    0
    Come on ... they will "surround" with fences from the cemetery and okay. This is "UkroShushpanzerMotors" good
  34. drags33
    drags33 April 5 2016 18: 50
    0
    All technical "progress" in the creation of Ukrop armored vehicles rests (see photo) on birch stumps (wood from Russia ...)! What can we talk about?
  35. Ermak
    Ermak April 5 2016 19: 07
    0
    Cracks detected ...
  36. Cobra77
    Cobra77 April 5 2016 19: 25
    0
    As I understand it, there is a new model in the line of Ukrainian armored vehicles "Crack" .... wassat
    I think they need to register a product brand of the same name.
  37. bmv04636
    bmv04636 April 5 2016 19: 57
    0
    that's what saving gas
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  39. Forest
    Forest April 5 2016 20: 27
    0
    Well, what will happen when firing machine guns ...
  40. demiurg
    demiurg April 5 2016 20: 36
    +1
    Cracks are not a weld, judging by the photo. In order for a sheet of good steel with a thickness of 4-5 millimeters to crack, it is necessary to cook it in place without drawings. Or according to the drawing without calculating the loads. I’m kind of like an electrician, but I also remember that everyone who was a sopromat in the second year, dean allowed me to marry as a joke.
    They would cut it at the seams of armored personnel carrier 40, and they would do it piece by piece, like patterns, since it’s a bit incriminating to learn laziness. Although you can’t do this in any way, zrada.
  41. dubovairina
    dubovairina April 5 2016 20: 53
    -1
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  42. Taoist
    Taoist April 5 2016 23: 13
    0
    It's just that all normal welders have long been working in the Russian Federation for a long time and those who stayed are jumping ... what kind of quality of the weld can be here? lol
  43. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 6 2016 05: 30
    0
    Not when hungry and impoverished workers will not do anything good. Complete crack repair kits.
  44. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz April 6 2016 06: 57
    0
    Give a cart without a horse ...