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The Kalashnikov family has lost the right to the AK-47 trademark

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In early April, the court granted the claim of the Kalashnikov Concern to the relatives of the famous gunsmith, MT Kalashnikov "" about the early termination of the legal protection of the graphic trademark of the machine gun with the inscription AK-47 "," reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference to the information of the court on intellectual property rights.


The Kalashnikov family has lost the right to the AK-47 trademark


“The trademark, which has been litigating since 2014, is a stylized image of a recognizable outline of an automaton with the inscription“ AK-47 ”. The trademark allows its owners to demand license fees for life if entrepreneurs decide to use the protected image for commercial purposes, ”the newspaper explains.

The owners of this sign were the daughter of designer Elena and grandson Igor.

In order to protect their right to a logo, they registered their own enterprise - CJSC “M.T. Kalashnikov ", which produces toy products. At the same time, the heirs of the designer did not limit the production of combat AK-47.

“In June 2014, the Kalashnikov Concern filed a lawsuit against MT Kalashnikov about the early termination of the legal protection of the graphic automaton trademark with the verbal designation“ AK-47 ”in relation to all goods of the so-called 28 class of the International Classification of Goods and services. It includes gaming machines with prepayment, puzzles from a set of elements for drawing up a picture, toys, toys with moving parts or mobile, automatic games without the use of television receivers, board games, games, targets, ”reports the publication.

The concern then stated that “the lawsuit was filed as a result of non-use of trademarks.” It is clear that “a powerful concern has much more opportunities than a family-owned, in fact, an enterprise, producing toys that use the outline of an automaton and its name,” the newspaper notes.

By the way, in 2012, the specialized agency BrandLab valued the Kalashnikov brand $ 10 billion.

According to the information, currently “the concern includes three armory brand: "Kalashnikov" - military weapons, "Baikal" - hunting and civilian weapons, "Izhmash" - sporting weapons ", as well as" Zale Aero "- a manufacturer of UAVs.
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  1. sever.56
    sever.56 April 5 2016 16: 11
    +84
    How nasty this petty fuss of a giant concern against the relatives of Mikhail Timofeevich for the name of a brilliant designer !!!
    Still, they would file a lawsuit prohibiting relatives from bearing the surname Kalashnikov. All of them have little money, deaf-eaters !!!
    1. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm April 5 2016 16: 18
      +29
      Oh yes. Somehow not nice.
      I would like to say: "Kalashnikov" is a national treasure of the USSR and Russia! soldier
      1. 76SSSR
        76SSSR April 5 2016 17: 00
        +32
        Quote: Pravdarm
        I would like to say: "Kalashnikov" is a national treasure of the USSR and Russia!

        Exactly - the property of the state, and not of the daughter and grandson. The brand was created in the state design bureau of the times of the USSR, and not in a private shop.
        1. iConst
          iConst April 5 2016 17: 12
          +35
          Quote: 76SSSR
          Exactly - the property of the state, and not of the daughter and grandson. The brand was created in the state design bureau of the times of the USSR, and not in a private shop.

          - That's right. Mikhail Timofeevich did not work like Eugene Stoner.
          At his disposal were machine tools, metal, technology. The mass of samples of foreign weapons. Comprehensive support for engineers. After all, a state resource.

          Although he deservedly is the author of this legendary weapon, how many locksmiths, testers and other people have put their work into this weapon.

          Do it all M.T. Kalashnikov alone is a question, but would he be able to make just such an assault rifle?

          Hence copyright claims are on the side.
          Let’s start now to pull away on brands everything - airplanes, tanks, grenade launchers ...
        2. Old old
          Old old April 5 2016 18: 38
          +12
          Exactly - the property of the state, and not of the daughter and grandson. The brand was created in the state design bureau of the times of the USSR, and not in a private shop.

          51% of the Concern’s shares are owned by Rostec State Corporation, 49% are owned by private investors (Alexey Krivoruchko, Andrey Bokarev and Iskander Makhmudov).
          The composition of Rostec:
          JSC Russian Helicopters
          JSC "UK" United Engine Corporation ""
          JSC United Instrument-Making Corporation
          OJSC NPO High Precision Complexes
          Tekhnodinamika holding
          JSC Concern Radioelectronic Technologies
          JSC "Roselectronics"
          OJSC RT-Chemcomposite
          JSC "Stankoprom"
          JSC NPK Techmash
          OJSC RT-Auto
          Holding "Shvabe"
          OJSC Concern Kalashnikov
          National Immunobiological Company
          Concern "Automatics"
          JSC "Security Technologies"

          Just JSCs and JSCs are "private shops" that replace their interests (read greed) with state ones.
          If the brand is state-owned, then why are two private traders suing him?
        3. Old old
          Old old April 5 2016 18: 38
          +2
          Exactly - the property of the state, and not of the daughter and grandson. The brand was created in the state design bureau of the times of the USSR, and not in a private shop.

          51% of the Concern’s shares are owned by Rostec State Corporation, 49% are owned by private investors (Alexey Krivoruchko, Andrey Bokarev and Iskander Makhmudov).
          The composition of Rostec:
          JSC Russian Helicopters
          JSC "UK" United Engine Corporation ""
          JSC United Instrument-Making Corporation
          OJSC NPO High Precision Complexes
          Tekhnodinamika holding
          JSC Concern Radioelectronic Technologies
          JSC "Roselectronics"
          OJSC RT-Chemcomposite
          JSC "Stankoprom"
          JSC NPK Techmash
          OJSC RT-Auto
          Holding "Shvabe"
          OJSC Concern Kalashnikov
          National Immunobiological Company
          Concern "Automatics"
          JSC "Security Technologies"

          Just JSCs and JSCs are "private shops" that replace their interests (read greed) with state ones.
          If the brand is state-owned, then why are two private traders suing him?
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null April 5 2016 20: 35
            +1
            Quote: Nursing Old
            JSC and JSC are "private shops" ...

            Wow, yo-yo ...

            Where did you get such nonsense? That's just interesting already ..
            1. Old old
              Old old April 5 2016 23: 17
              +2
              Wow, yo-yo ...
              Where did you get such nonsense? That's just interesting already ..

              In the Civil Code of the Russian Federation. For state. enterprises legal form - FSUE.
              The presence of state shares in AO does not turn a private shop into a state one. Capital and the state have different (often opposite) goals.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null April 5 2016 23: 38
                +1
                Quote: Nursing Old
                The presence of state shares in the JSC does not turn a private shop into a state

                Well, yes, well, yes .. "size matters", you know. In this case - the share of shares controlled by the state yes

                Quote: Nursing Old
                Capital and state have different (often opposing) goals

                Iron logic .. you can nail nails laughing

                You are talking nonsense, dear .. Rostec is a state corporation, it has a controlling stake in Kalashnikov. With this, as it were, everything has already been said.
                1. Old old
                  Old old April 5 2016 23: 45
                  +1
                  Well, yes, well, yes .. "size matters", you know. In this case - the share of shares controlled by the state

                  50% honey and 50% tar when mixed will not give 100% neither honey. no tar!
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null April 5 2016 23: 47
                    0
                    Quote: Nursing Old
                    50% honey and 50% tar when mixed will not give 100% neither honey. no tar!

                    - there is such a compound word - Dima-Gogia ..
                    - the phrase you quoted has nothing to do with the mechanism of operation of the enterprises you mentioned No.
      2. Old old
        Old old April 5 2016 19: 35
        +1
        I would like to say: "Kalashnikov" is a national treasure of the USSR and Russia!

        This should be fixed by law with a ban on selling abroad or to foreign companies. Many questions would disappear.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null April 5 2016 20: 39
          +1
          Quote: Nursing Old
          This should be fixed by law with a ban on selling abroad or to foreign companies. Many questions would disappear.

          Have you seen AK ever before? In the hands of holding? Dismantled, collected?

          You might as well try to "prohibit the sale abroad" ... well, for example, a tablespoon ...

          And AK - wake up - where they produce a lot. Both under license and without it ..

          Something like this..
          1. Old old
            Old old April 5 2016 23: 25
            0
            Have you seen AK ever before? In the hands of holding? Dismantled, collected?
            You might as well try to "prohibit the sale abroad" ... well, for example, a tablespoon ...
            And AK - wake up - where they produce a lot. Both under license and without it ..
            Something like this..

            Do not distort.
            We are talking about a brand (trademark), a ban on selling it abroad. And if the Kalashnikov brand is worthless, then where is such litigation in the courts and heated discussion here?
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null April 5 2016 23: 42
              +1
              Quote: Nursing Old
              We are talking about a brand (trademark), a ban on selling it abroad

              Is it true? Where did you see this in the article?

              - no one sells anything "abroad". By the way, what is "selling a brand" (apart from production) - I don't really understand for some reason .. explain, if possible? wink

              Quote: Nursing Old
              And if the Kalashnikov brand is worth nothing

              - worth it. And this, by the way, is mentioned in the article.

              Quote: Nursing Old
              where is such litigation in the courts and heated discussion here?

              - I did not observe any special "litigation". The article is, in fact, about nothing - routine, sir ..
              - heated discussion here - the usual "tempest in a glass", everyone wants to say something, regardless of whether he understands something in the issue under discussion, or not at all. Also, by the way - routine, sir ..
              1. Old old
                Old old April 5 2016 23: 55
                0
                By the way, what is "selling a brand" (apart from production) - I don't really understand for some reason .. explain, if possible?

                Franchise is a special case. Talking to you about something?
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null April 5 2016 23: 58
                  0
                  Quote: Nursing Old
                  Franchise - a special case

                  - is it "brand rental" rather not?
                  - "Selling a brand" is still a little different.

                  And, again - no about this in the article. Not a word No.
              2. Old old
                Old old April 5 2016 23: 58
                0
                - heated discussion here - the usual "tempest in a glass"

                Judging by your emotional posts - not very "usual".
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null April 6 2016 00: 06
                  0
                  Quote: Nursing Old
                  Judging by your emotional posts - not very "usual"

                  Yes, usual, ordinary .. you just write with a clever look, call .. nonsense .. about "private shops" and so on ..

                  And I worked with these "private shops" .. and somehow I did not observe a big difference between the FSUE and the public corporation.

                  I’m probably blind request
              3. Old old
                Old old April 5 2016 23: 58
                0
                - heated discussion here - the usual "tempest in a glass"

                Judging by your emotional posts - not very "usual".
          2. Old old
            Old old April 5 2016 23: 42
            0
            Have you seen AK ever before?

            Would write to learn correctly, or something .. ideologist, whip ..

            Well?
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets April 5 2016 16: 18
      +18
      Quote: sever.56
      petty fuss of a giant concern against relatives of Mikhail Timofeevich

      This fuss is disgusting, in principle, and not just someone against someone. The concern wanted to protect itself from a legal point of view, I think they could have come to an amicable agreement.
      1. Blondy
        Blondy April 5 2016 17: 06
        +4
        Well, we can assume that amicably:
        By the way, in 2012, the specialized agency BrandLab valued the Kalashnikov brand $ 10 billion.
        nowadays and for much less money, they could kill everyone without hesitation.
      2. Homo
        Homo April 5 2016 18: 51
        +2
        Quote: Vladimirets
        This fuss is disgusting, in principle, and not just someone against someone. The concern wanted to protect itself from a legal point of view, I think they could have come to an amicable agreement.


        Concern "Kalashnikov" (until 2013 - OAO NPO IZHMASH, until April 8, 1975 the Izhevsk Machine-Building Plant, formerly the Izhevsk Arms Plant)

        The company ZAO "MT KALASHNIKOV" was registered on December 10, 1999.

        So who should negotiate with whom?
    3. Finches
      Finches April 5 2016 16: 20
      +29
      The costs of capitalism! I wrote here on a neighboring branch that if we compare political and economic formations, then compared with socialism-capitalism, the complete shit is not even the lack of basic justice, but that capitalism is killing the human soul! Strokes her for the sake of banknotes!
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 April 5 2016 16: 41
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        capitalism is killing the human soul! Strokes her for the sake of banknotes!

        I agree with you in part. What is happening now in our economy can be compared to "wild capitalism", when there is a primary accumulation of capital. Only here it has been going on for more than a dozen years. In the Russian Empire, all this passed much faster. And merchants and entrepreneurs - Putilov, Tretyakov, Morozov, Mamontov - were involved in charity work, built schools, hospitals, houses, roads, collected magnificent art collections and donated these collections to society, as they said at the time. Therefore, they are remembered to this day.
        And for today's hucksters, with rare exceptions, it says in large letters in the eyes - BABLO, and the dollar sign shines with green light!
        1. martin-159
          martin-159 April 5 2016 16: 55
          +3
          The merchants you mentioned were primarily Christians.
        2. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z April 5 2016 16: 57
          +8
          Quote: sever.56
          And for today's hucksters, with rare exceptions, it says in large letters in the eyes - BABLO, and the dollar sign shines with green light!

          This is clearly shown in the Disney animated series:
        3. BIGLESHIY
          BIGLESHIY April 5 2016 17: 00
          +6
          Quote: sever.56
          But merchants and entrepreneurs - Putilov, Tretyakov, Morozov, Mamontov - did charity work, built schools, hospitals, houses, roads, collected magnificent collections of works of art and donated these collections to society, as they said then. Therefore, they are still remembered.

          And mind you, they did it at their own expense, from their own pockets.
          And now, all donations and charity at the expense of state-owned companies and the increase in the price of goods, that is, out of our pocket.
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina April 5 2016 17: 18
            +7
            Quote: BIGLESHIY
            And mind you, they did it at their own expense, from their own pockets.


            What are you talking about nonsense! His own pocket, but who stuffed this pocket ?! Peasants and workers through exploitation by the expropriators! What do you say wrong ?! Slogans from the "damned" scoop ?! No, comrades just like that, due to merciless exploitation, all these gentlemen were fattening, but the people were poor, hungry and illiterate!

            And then, you see, philanthropists were found, damn it!

            And on the topic, the ***** concern (not censored vocabulary), the Kalashnikov family, like the Bill Gates family, deserve to be billionaires, even if only according to the merits of Mikhail Kalashnikov!
            1. BIGLESHIY
              BIGLESHIY April 5 2016 17: 32
              -1
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Quote: BIGLESHIY
              And mind you, they did it at their own expense, from their own pockets.


              Why are you talking nonsense here!

              It’s you talking nonsense, you’ll at least ask what workers had a salary, what place Russia occupied in exporting goods (and what) in the world.
              During the 1st World War in Russia, there were free products (and no card system like after the 17th year), and you are scratching us about hunger. There was a famine, but just because of the revolution and subsequent events in the country.
              1. Old old
                Old old April 5 2016 20: 10
                +2
                It’s you talking nonsense, you’ll at least ask what workers had a salary, what place Russia occupied in exporting goods (and what) in the world.
                During the 1st World War in Russia, there were free products (and no card system like after the 17th year), and you are scratching us about hunger. There was a famine, but just because of the revolution and subsequent events in the country.

                Only agricultural products were exported. At the same time, consider Poland and Finland as the protectorates of the Republic of Ingushetia. High-tech (at that time) items and equipment were supplied from outside (with the exception of Sikorsky bombers, "three-line" and individual artillery pieces).
                The absence of a card system was "compensated" by speculative prices (cards and are introduced to limit price increases). By the way, sugar was introduced into RI in 1916.
                In the USSR, card distribution was introduced in July 1941, and was canceled in December 1947.
                In the UK, gas cards were canceled in 1950, for sugar and sweets in 1953, for meat in July 1954. (by Wiki).
                You can also see Tai, and the years when there was famine in Russia and what this famine was associated with.
                Mikhalkovschina is not history, but artistic and journalistic works.
              2. Old old
                Old old April 5 2016 20: 10
                -1
                It’s you talking nonsense, you’ll at least ask what workers had a salary, what place Russia occupied in exporting goods (and what) in the world.
                During the 1st World War in Russia, there were free products (and no card system like after the 17th year), and you are scratching us about hunger. There was a famine, but just because of the revolution and subsequent events in the country.

                Only agricultural products were exported. At the same time, consider Poland and Finland as the protectorates of the Republic of Ingushetia. High-tech (at that time) items and equipment were supplied from outside (with the exception of Sikorsky bombers, "three-line" and individual artillery pieces).
                The absence of a card system was "compensated" by speculative prices (cards and are introduced to limit price increases). By the way, sugar was introduced into RI in 1916.
                In the USSR, card distribution was introduced in July 1941, and was canceled in December 1947.
                In the UK, gas cards were canceled in 1950, for sugar and sweets in 1953, for meat in July 1954. (by Wiki).
                You can also see Tai, and the years when there was famine in Russia and what this famine was associated with.
                Mikhalkovschina is not history, but artistic and journalistic works.
            2. sever.56
              sever.56 April 5 2016 17: 46
              +1
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Peasants and workers through exploitation by expropriators! What, you say wrong?

              http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/342/bibu812.png

              Sorry, but you would first ask what this or that term or definition means before posting it in your comment.
        4. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina April 5 2016 17: 12
          +8
          Quote: sever.56
          But merchants and entrepreneurs - Putilov, Tretyakov, Morozov, Mamontov - did charity work, built schools, hospitals, houses, roads, collected magnificent collections of works of art and donated these collections to society, as they said then. Therefore, they are still remembered.
          And for today's hucksters, with rare exceptions, it says in large letters in the eyes - BABLO, and the dollar sign shines with green light!


          Do you think that at that time there were no Berezovsky, Abramovich, Chubais and other nonhumans ?! All were exclusively Savva Morozov ?! All straight white and fluffy benefactors ?! And who then brought the country to crisis and famine by 1917, are the Bolsheviks really ?!
          1. sever.56
            sever.56 April 5 2016 17: 29
            +2
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Do you think that at that time there were no Berezovsky, Abramovich, Chubais and other nonhumans ?!

            I believe that they were.


            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            All were exclusively Savva Morozov ?! All straight white and fluffy benefactors ?!

            Not. But I’m not used to smearing the history of my country-Russia with just one black ink and saying that in that time Russia there were only traitors, thieves, lazy people and drunkards.

            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            And who then brought the country to crisis and famine by 1917, are the Bolsheviks really ?!


            But the type of such and brought:
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Do you think that at that time there were no Berezovsky, Abramovich, Chubais and other nonhumans ?!
        5. Finches
          Finches April 5 2016 17: 15
          +6
          Capitalism, however socially oriented it is, is the exploitation of man by man! And this does not mean at all that the one who exploits is more literate, educated, smarter, more than a sleeve, etc. exploited ... More often than not, he’s simply more impudent and unprincipled, more dodgy ...!
          And the example you have given is unsuccessful - under socialism, everything belongs to the people, and it turns out that the people create masterpieces, and then some gentleman then gives them to the same people, so to speak from the noble shoulder!
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina April 5 2016 17: 26
            +8
            Quote: Finches
            And the example you have given is unsuccessful - under socialism, everything belongs to the people, and it turns out that the people create masterpieces, and then some gentleman then gives them to the same people, so to speak from the noble shoulder!


            Eugene, right to the point! Everything was created by the people, and the capitalists used it in no other way, which we actually observe today. I fully support you! good
          2. sever.56
            sever.56 April 5 2016 18: 11
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            And the example you have given is unsuccessful - under socialism, everything belongs to the people, and it turns out that the people create masterpieces, and then some gentleman then gives them to the same people, so to speak from the noble shoulder!


            And I think that your opinion is not entirely successful.
            The aforementioned people bought works of art all over the world, built museums with their own money (let's not argue, they got them by righteous or unrighteous labor), and access for ordinary people in them was FREE. People who have more than ordinary people paid a symbolic amount to see the masterpieces of world culture. Also, they, the "damned exploiters", donated very substantial sums for the maintenance of theaters, established scholarships for talented artists, composers, musicians and actors.
            1. Finches
              Finches April 5 2016 18: 15
              +3
              In any case, these are single surnames that by their own action are not capable of personally convincing me of the goodness of the capitalist system! Just decent people and no more!
              1. sever.56
                sever.56 April 5 2016 18: 55
                +3
                Quote: Finches
                In any case, these are isolated surnames, which by their own action are not capable of personally convincing me of the goodness of the capitalist system!

                But I did not say that the capitalist system is better than the socialist one.

                Quote: Finches
                ! Just decent people and no more!

                But this is the most important thing in life - BE AN ORDERING HUMAN. And nothing more is needed. I think so... hi
                1. Finches
                  Finches April 5 2016 19: 22
                  +1
                  Yes! Here I agree with you completely! hi
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          4. Cat man null
            Cat man null April 5 2016 20: 29
            -1
            Quote: Finches
            under socialism, everything belongs to the people

            ... yeah ... and also "everything for the good of man, everything in the name of man .. the Chukchi in Moscow-Kremlin saw this man, he greeted him by the hand" ..

            An old joke .. inspired by .. don’t tell me sneakers .. socialism, plin.
        6. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS April 5 2016 18: 24
          0
          Well, we have lived to see the time when everything is for sale. It's sickening that banknotes have become "icons" and the main ideology of the modern Russian Federation.
        7. Old old
          Old old April 5 2016 19: 28
          +1
          But merchants and entrepreneurs - Putilov, Tretyakov, Morozov, Mamontov - did charity work, built schools, hospitals, houses, roads, collected magnificent collections of works of art and donated these collections to society, as they said then. Therefore, they are still remembered.

          If according to Mikhalkov, then yes.
          "Lena shootings", the famine of 1903/04, a 12-14 hour working day with or without one day off (on major church holidays), mass child labor, including in hazardous industries, widespread illiteracy, etc. etc. - the flip side of "charity". And without taking into account the waste of fortunes on actresses and milliners, watering horses with champagne, such antics. Our past is not ideal and must be accepted and remembered "as it is."
          A positive feature of Russian breeders and merchants was that the funds were not withdrawn abroad. but stayed in the country.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null April 5 2016 19: 53
            0
            Quote: Nursing Old
            and stayed in the country

            Would write to learn correctly, or something .. ideologist, whip ..

            Quote: Nursing Old
            mass child labor, including in hazardous industries, general illiteracy

            ... yeah .. and the soup of the babies in the blood .. their own .. ugh .. remove the flag, do not disgrace .. miracle illiterate ..

            You cannot confirm a single word from your bazaar ..

            It remains .. now, it just remains .. d-b.
            1. Old old
              Old old April 5 2016 23: 35
              +1
              Quote: Old Age
              and stayed in the country
              Would write to learn correctly, or something .. ideologist, whip ..
              Quote: Old Age
              mass child labor, including in hazardous industries, general illiteracy
              ... yeah .. and the soup of the babies in the blood .. their own .. ugh .. remove the flag, do not disgrace .. miracle illiterate ..
              You cannot confirm a single word from your bazaar ..
              It remains .. now, it just remains .. d-b.

              Not all the same be philologists.
              If it is impossible to refute in essence, all that remains is to swear and look for grammatical errors.
              And by the way, "d-b" is your signature?
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null April 5 2016 23: 44
                -1
                Quote: Nursing Old
                And by the way, "d-b" is your signature?

                Exactly laughing
            2. Old old
              Old old April 5 2016 23: 35
              +1
              Quote: Old Age
              and stayed in the country
              Would write to learn correctly, or something .. ideologist, whip ..
              Quote: Old Age
              mass child labor, including in hazardous industries, general illiteracy
              ... yeah .. and the soup of the babies in the blood .. their own .. ugh .. remove the flag, do not disgrace .. miracle illiterate ..
              You cannot confirm a single word from your bazaar ..
              It remains .. now, it just remains .. d-b.

              Not all the same be philologists.
              If it is impossible to refute in essence, all that remains is to swear and look for grammatical errors.
              And by the way, "d-b" is your signature?
            3. Old old
              Old old April 5 2016 23: 52
              0
              remove the flag, do not disgrace ..

              Take off your fat cat, my flag! The advisor, the "whip", was found!
      2. Patriot2012
        Patriot2012 April 5 2016 20: 26
        +2
        Now the deputies are coming to us in anticipation of the primaries, asked questions about the closure of kindergartens and schools in the villages, and said that they are not mobile and their maintenance is not economically efficient. Here you have the children’s education, the life of people in the villages is not economically effective and not profitable. That is, the money is higher than children's education and indeed human life. Morons bl, And this makes our government a creature,
    4. milann
      milann April 5 2016 16: 30
      +11
      Fussing around trademarks is the insanity of the era, the free giving of money by swindlers from jurisprudence. This is such a fat! How many litigation around squiggles, the price of which is three pennies. Entire armies of lawyers have made fund-raising in the field of brands their business. That's for sure, the empty-bellied era of pi to the point of growth in all respects and senses.
    5. Egor-dis
      Egor-dis April 5 2016 16: 51
      +1
      And you do not consider the option that the family can sell the brand, for a couple of yards, to overseas "friends" and the country will lose it altogether?
      1. Pirogov
        Pirogov April 5 2016 16: 58
        +5
        Quote: Egor-dis
        And you do not consider the option that the family can sell the brand, for a couple of yards, to overseas "friends" and the country will lose it altogether?

        Let the Kalashnikov family create decent conditions, even if they have nothing to do with the country’s officials’s children, then no one will sell anything, otherwise these bastards would get used to having everything for free.
        1. Egor-dis
          Egor-dis April 8 2016 06: 45
          0
          Quote: Pirogov
          Let the Kalashnikov family create decent conditions, even if they have nothing to do with the country’s officials’s children, then no one will sell anything, otherwise these bastards would get used to having everything for free.
          It directly bears not so much concern for the Kalashnikov family as black envy for the children of officials and their freebies. But in fact - a typical demagogy.
      2. shurik
        shurik April 5 2016 17: 31
        0
        I agree, and what does it have to do with daughter и grandson к AK-47.
        1. Old old
          Old old April 5 2016 19: 32
          +2
          I agree, and what does the daughter and grandson have to do with the AK-47.

          51% of the Concern’s shares are owned by Rostec State Corporation, 49% are owned by private investors (Alexey Krivoruchko, Andrey Bokarev and Iskander Makhmudov). What is the relationship of the above persons to AK?
      3. Alf
        Alf April 5 2016 21: 13
        +1
        Quote: Egor-dis
        And you do not consider the option that the family can sell the brand, for a couple of yards, to overseas "friends" and the country will lose it altogether?

        Counter-Question: And what does the daughter and grandson of the designer have to do with the brand?
        They themselves created this immortal creation? But to use the creation of a grandfather is neither a great mind nor honor.
        Let them create something similar and then defend their invention. It’s the same as if the grandson of Nikolai Kuznetsov would demand to pay him for using the name NK-32.
        And why
        designer daughter Elena and grandson Igor
        it was demanded, not the spouse of Mikhail Timofeevich? Maybe she has a conscience and honor?
    6. Pirogov
      Pirogov April 5 2016 16: 54
      +1
      Quote: sever.56
      How nasty this petty fuss of a giant concern against the relatives of Mikhail Timofeevich for the name of a brilliant designer !!!
      Still, they would file a lawsuit prohibiting relatives from bearing the surname Kalashnikov. All of them have little money, deaf-eaters !!!

      Exactly, it’s a shame when these director’s bastards get drunk already, and how the government could admit that this question has even arisen. The family of such a person must also prove something and to whom rot.
    7. K-50
      K-50 April 5 2016 17: 18
      +7
      Quote: sever.56
      How nasty this petty fuss of a giant concern against the relatives of Mikhail Timofeevich for the name of a brilliant designer !!!

      This name created the whole Union, but not the family of the Great Armourer. They like sticky use his name. So I think it's right. This name must belong to the plant and the country. hi
      1. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY April 5 2016 17: 39
        +6
        Quote: K-50

        This name created the whole Union, but not the family of the Great Armourer. They like sticky use his name. So I think it's right. This name must belong to the plant and the country. hi

        Who owns the plant? To the people? Country?
      2. Corsair
        Corsair April 5 2016 17: 49
        +4
        Quote: K-50
        This name created the whole Union, but not the family of the Great Armourer. They like sticky use his name. So I think it's right. This name must belong to the plant and the country.

        what I support, and give relatives a package of shares of the concern so that there is no income, plus you can allow, if they master it, release under this brand, like subsidiaries and affiliates - toys, products, etc., but with the appropriate quality.
    8. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx April 5 2016 17: 36
      +1
      Quote: sever.56
      How nasty this petty fuss of a giant concern against the relatives of Mikhail Timofeevich for the name of a brilliant designer !!!
      Still, they would file a lawsuit prohibiting relatives from bearing the surname Kalashnikov. All of them have little money, deaf-eaters !!!

      Well, they squeezed out again. Which should have been proved!
    9. your1970
      your1970 April 5 2016 17: 47
      +1
      Petty ??? Well, well ..
      There is the level of a couple of tens of millions of dollars that factory workers would pay if they used the trademark .. Guess the first time where the money would go to pay?
      Trademarks are generally a very specific thing (as well as copyrights) - there is no longer a person, but money is coming.
      Considering that, without detracting from the merits of Kalashnikov as a constructor, he created a workable and competitive machine even though the plant (and design bureau in particular).
      Unpleasantly - but apparently the children did not agree with the factory in assessing the brand’s profitability .. Which by and large belonged to the USSR ....
      And by the way, yes, the heirs could have sold to anyone (well, that is, ABSOLUTELY ANY person the rights to the brand - and there would be no Kalashnikovs in the Russian Federation at all (just like there is no champagne other than "Soviet" - the rest of all sparkling wines)
    10. Homo
      Homo April 5 2016 18: 36
      +1
      Quote: sever.56
      Still, they would file a lawsuit prohibiting relatives from bearing the surname Kalashnikov. All of them have little money, deaf-eaters !!!

      What kind of idiocy? What does the surname have to do with it. The precedent is bad. So the relatives of Peter the Great will demand the right to St. Petersburg. And the heirs of Rurik (or who is now considered the founder) will require the rights to the brand Russia.
      And again, a bunch of + without any objectivity. Why put the pluses, can you explain? Or Apple laurels do not give rest, the family should row everything for themselves!
    11. Wolverine
      Wolverine April 5 2016 22: 25
      0
      At the top, it would be time to intercede for the Kalashnikov children, justice should triumph.
  2. hartlend
    hartlend April 5 2016 16: 15
    +17
    Yesterday this news was already in an article about Izhevsk weapons. It is easier to sue the rights of a trademark from relatives than to sue Americans who have registered rights to their Kalashnikov in the United States.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov April 5 2016 18: 10
      0
      Of course, as suing America itself, it’s easier to bend its own.
  3. brodyaga
    brodyaga April 5 2016 16: 19
    +4
    This is not petty fuss. It's millions in your pocket.
  4. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad April 5 2016 16: 26
    +7
    It would be better to unite, and not bite.
    The leadership of the Kalashnikov concern could help people organize the production of large-scale models of Russian-made weapons for both children and collectors using the world-famous AK-47 brand.
    That would be normal. There is always a demand for quality toys.
  5. Koronik
    Koronik April 5 2016 16: 29
    +2
    Interestingly, and who carried out the registration of this JSC "Kalashnikov"?
  6. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior April 5 2016 16: 30
    +3
    So after all "AK-47" is not ... He's just "AK" or am I confusing something? what
  7. qwert_s
    qwert_s April 5 2016 16: 31
    -2
    "We do not abandon our own" - they took it and threw it. What an example ..................
  8. stas-xnumx
    stas-xnumx April 5 2016 16: 33
    +3
    And the most important thing is that in the West they are grinning viciously again: Again, the Russians are fighting among themselves over the dough, "that's what is disgusting.
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  10. Shamsik
    Shamsik April 5 2016 16: 44
    +4
    Don't you think there is a mistake on the poster where it says "Who will do better, shake hands first"? It seems to be correct to be "Who will do better, I will shake hands FIRST"
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 April 5 2016 17: 21
      +5
      Quote: Shamsik
      Who will do better, first shake my hand

      In the original it sounded like this
      -Who will do better, I shake my hand first. http://ia-udmurtija.podster.fm/4 2min 34 sec.
  11. krops777
    krops777 April 5 2016 16: 46
    +1
    I also think we could agree, and so the concern can slightly modify the sign and all.
    As they say Kalashnikov, he is in Africa Kalashnikov.
  12. owl
    owl April 5 2016 16: 46
    +6
    I wonder what kind of right do relatives have on the name AK-47 when it (and the brand) was created under the Union with public funds ?? request
    The rustle of green notes beckoned!
  13. nemec55
    nemec55 April 5 2016 16: 47
    +6
    The bottom line is. Does the Kalashnikov family have the right to profit from the brand is a controversial question, but the answer is accurate if the Kalashnikov family does not receive the Ulyukaev family or the like. We are specifically shown that ordinary people have no rights to property. This is while you have a small kiosk, that's okay, but as soon as everything grew up, the spinning went. A simple example is our Omsk metro building, as soon as it wedged into the state panel, so everyone became interested in someone and obviously not to the deputy of the village council of the village of Perduevka, but certainly at the very top. my wife took a fancy to denyuha.
  14. rubidiy
    rubidiy April 5 2016 16: 47
    0
    disgusting it. Another fat minus to the piggy bank of the current government. Instead of worrying about Putin’s reserved wildlife in the West, these dolcepals would be better off watching their lawless people. am Only eternally dissatisfied whiners-liberals will eat the parasite from the Western media, but things like taking money from the Kalashnikov family are bl ... angry I will remember that ...
  15. guzik007
    guzik007 April 5 2016 16: 48
    +3
    Everything is right, everything is as always with us, grandfather an honorary grave, children and grandchildren pendal under the railway. Under no regime, nor under any system will our rulers recognize either the rights or the dignity of a small person. a diploma or a medal with a creak, they will still give.
  16. DMB3000
    DMB3000 April 5 2016 16: 55
    +3
    Quote: guzik007
    Everything is right, everything is as always with us, grandfather an honorary grave, children and grandchildren pendal under the railway. Under no regime, nor under any system will our rulers recognize either the rights or the dignity of a small person. a diploma or a medal with a creak, they will still give.

    grandchildren have done something for the homeland, to demand something?
  17. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui April 5 2016 16: 56
    +2
    And the daughter and granddaughter, apparently, dohren took part in the creation of the AK-47 ... at the level of the womb and mentality of being wassat . As for me, the AK-47 belongs to the USSR, Kalashnikov M.T. grew from the USSR and in the hardest time PILED AK-47. Hence a simple conclusion - this brand belongs to two giants - the USSR and M.T. KALASHNIKOV. and ONLY THEM. And all the horseradish, lovers of freebies, bring down the forest, but if you have brains, then you can come up with something at your leisure and imprint yourself with this story.
    1. imugn
      imugn April 5 2016 17: 05
      +5
      Do you think that the non-current leadership of the concern took part in the creation of the AK-47?
      1. viktor_ui
        viktor_ui April 5 2016 17: 10
        -2
        THE CONCERN CONTINUES THE BUSINESS OF KALASHNIKOV ... EVERYTHING.
    2. BIGLESHIY
      BIGLESHIY April 5 2016 17: 12
      +8
      Quote: viktor_ui
      And the daughter and granddaughter, apparently, dohren took part in the creation of the AK-47 ... at the level of the womb and mentality of being wassat . As for me, the AK-47 belongs to the USSR, Kalashnikov M.T. grew from the USSR and in the hardest time PILED AK-47. Hence a simple conclusion - this brand belongs to two giants - the USSR and M.T. KALASHNIKOV. and ONLY THEM. And all the horseradish, lovers of freebies, bring down the forest, but if you have brains, then you can come up with something at your leisure and imprint yourself with this story.

      But you don’t mind that hydroelectric power stations and nuclear power plants were built under the USSR with national money, oil and gas, factories, factories, ships (the same story) and they belong to a narrow circle of people who did not participate in their creation and construction, who did not invest a penny from their own pockets . So they just have to cut down the forest, and even better cut down this same forest.
      1. viktor_ui
        viktor_ui April 5 2016 18: 46
        -3
        We use the multicolored words ... now a cunning woodpecker will appear and stir up the brand’s right to the whole great and mighty in its favor on the basis of the speaking of his ancestors ... will you pay compensation to him according to his brand right ??? And think about it, it’s a freebie sweet by the right of our ancestors, you don’t need to cook anything with your own head - the raspberries are full and the whole muzzle will be in chocolate from this LEGAL RECEIVER. wassat
        1. imugn
          imugn April 6 2016 10: 21
          +1
          The management of the concern is the very "cunning woodpecker"
  18. Human Factor
    Human Factor April 5 2016 16: 57
    +1
    Entertaining import substitution.

    Meanwhile, Serdyukov oh sorry Sechin buys on credit (folk) 160 Italian helicopters.
    1. 16112014nk
      16112014nk April 5 2016 17: 56
      0
      And also Sechin - sorry, "Rosneft" about a month ago bought condoms worth 48 million rubles for sale in the network of filling stations of JSC "RN-Moscow". Citizen Sechin takes care of Russian drivers! Well, there is a small increase in my salary of 5 million rubles a day. As they say - a trifle, but nice!
  19. 16112014nk
    16112014nk April 5 2016 17: 01
    0
    The longing for anti-people’s power in all its glory! fool
  20. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 5 2016 17: 04
    +1
    It’s interesting, but what would the designer of this machine say about the court decision?
    1. Vadim525
      Vadim525 April 5 2016 17: 24
      +1
      Like this
      http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130531/940555045.html
      1. MSL
        MSL April 5 2016 17: 54
        +1
        Quote: Vadim525
        Like this
        http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130531/940555045.html


        Well, why did the heirs start a lawsuit? Surrendered? Or do you want to work yourself?
        1. Vadim525
          Vadim525 April 5 2016 18: 24
          0
          There was an opportunity to live comfortably until old age, they tried to take advantage (although anyone who knows him, personally, is not familiar).
  21. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m April 5 2016 17: 31
    0
    Lawyers came up with copyrights to remove money from everyone. I read somewhere that cunning guys registered copyrights for nails and demanded deductions from manufacturers of fences. Fake, but every joke has a fraction of a joke.
    1. Old old
      Old old April 5 2016 20: 19
      -1
      Lawyers came up with copyrights to remove money from everyone.

      Copyright, especially in its modern form, is evil, both for the end consumer (payment for a brand) and for the development of production (payments "for a brand" to rightholders).
  22. Alex gt
    Alex gt April 5 2016 18: 50
    0
    It would be interesting to know how the factory and relatives dispersed as a result. If they parted amiably and the relatives got away from the factory, it’s good, but if they were simply deprived of all the opportunities for earning on their family value, then this is terribly unfair.
  23. From Udmurtia
    From Udmurtia April 5 2016 19: 43
    0
    [quote = iConst] [quote = 76SSSR] That's it - the property of the state, not of the daughter and grandson. The brand was created in the State Design Bureau of the USSR, and not in a private shop. [/ Quo [quote = iConst] [quote = 76СССР] That's it - the property of the state, not of the daughter and grandson. The brand was created in the state design bureau of the times of the USSR, and not in a private shop. [/ Quote]
    - That's right. Mikhail Timofeevich did not work like Eugene Stoner.
    At his disposal were machine tools, metal, technology. The mass of samples of foreign weapons. Comprehensive support for engineers. After all, a state resource.

    Although he deservedly is the author of this legendary weapon, how many locksmiths, testers and other people have put their work into this weapon.

    Do it all M.T. Kalashnikov alone is a question, but would he be able to make just such an assault rifle?

    Hence copyright claims are on the side.
    Let's now start pulling away everything on brands - airplanes, tanks, grenade launchers ... [/ quote]
    But why, in this case, royalties for Soviet songs, etc. should be made today. (e.g. Pugacheva). After all, everything was done in the state. But why, in this case, royalties for Soviet songs should be made today, etc. (e.g. Pugacheva). After all, everything was done in the state. organizations.
  24. From Udmurtia
    From Udmurtia April 5 2016 19: 43
    +1
    [quote = iConst] [quote = 76SSSR] That's it - the property of the state, not of the daughter and grandson. The brand was created in the State Design Bureau of the USSR, and not in a private shop. [/ Quo [quote = iConst] [quote = 76СССР] That's it - the property of the state, not of the daughter and grandson. The brand was created in the state design bureau of the times of the USSR, and not in a private shop. [/ Quote]
    - That's right. Mikhail Timofeevich did not work like Eugene Stoner.
    At his disposal were machine tools, metal, technology. The mass of samples of foreign weapons. Comprehensive support for engineers. After all, a state resource.

    Although he deservedly is the author of this legendary weapon, how many locksmiths, testers and other people have put their work into this weapon.

    Do it all M.T. Kalashnikov alone is a question, but would he be able to make just such an assault rifle?

    Hence copyright claims are on the side.
    Let's now start pulling away everything on brands - airplanes, tanks, grenade launchers ... [/ quote]
    But why, in this case, royalties for Soviet songs, etc. should be made today. (e.g. Pugacheva). After all, everything was done in the state. But why, in this case, royalties for Soviet songs should be made today, etc. (e.g. Pugacheva). After all, everything was done in the state. organizations.
  25. Egevich
    Egevich April 5 2016 20: 03
    0
    what is allowed to Jupiter, is not allowed to a bull ... why be surprised at something? .. or are you still in pink dreams?
  26. dubovairina
    dubovairina April 5 2016 20: 53
    -5
    the wife gave drops that radically improved our SEX, it became several times longer, a hundred.yak stronger, the sensations are brighter and more pleasant. And the wife is now happy and I feel great! I myself did not know and did not believe until I read this article --- us.to/macho
  27. bubalik
    bubalik April 6 2016 00: 11
    0
    ,,, and what do we share? ,,, or are all the relatives gathered here ?,, request
  28. gippernano
    gippernano April 7 2016 23: 37
    0
    Quote: sever.56
    How nasty this petty fuss

    Lead them down the throats of AK then understand